From editor@telecom-digest.org Wed Apr 5 01:18:11 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA10894; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:18:11 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004050518.BAA10894@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #51 TELECOM Digest Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:18:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 51 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 4/4 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer White House Claims: "We Don't Keep Call Detail Records!" (Jeremy Greene) BellSouth and Separations (Tad Cook) Bell Atl. Discriminating Against Resellers on 516/631 Switch? (R. Fishler) Re: CPP, ATM Surcharges (Fred Goldstein) Erlang Equations? "Watch Meister) Bell-Atlantic to Be Renamed "Verizon" (The Old Bear) Verizon!! (Jeremy Greene) Book Review: "High-Speed Wireless ATM and LANs", Benny Bing (Rob Slade) Re: Spring Ahead Season (wolf@ti.com) Re: Spring Ahead Season (Arthur Ross) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. 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Current focus: P - Roll-out of new toll free codes 866 and 855 is delayed SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1186 P - SNAC demands End to End Performance Commitments and Level of Service SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1255 P - Toll Free quietly falls under auspices of new INC Audit Committee SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=866 P - Domain Name Famous Marks and new gTLDs recommendations on deadline SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1260 P - Vapor-constituency: ICANN At Large Membership ... SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1224 P - ICANN called on the carpet by the three Regional Internet Registries SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1134 F - Do No Harm: Reform the Domain Dispute System SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1294 F - CyberHQ - THE NEW IMPERIALISM SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=558ALISM ************************************************************************* HEADLINES FOR APRIL 4, 2000 F - DIAL 388 FOR EUROPE? This is not the first time that enterprises have had an international dialing scheme at their disposal. There is already Universal International Freephone, but uptake has been limited. The reason, according to the International Telecommunications User Group, is that international freephone is a heavy financial burden to bear. "We were all very interested, but it's a very expensive service," said Peters. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1362 P - NY COURT TO TACKLE NFL SUIT AGAINST CAL WEB SITE "Since he apparently profits substantially from the activity that does damage to the plaintiffs in New York, it does not offend due process to require him to defend his actions in a New York courtroom," the judge added. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1364 F - FREEDSL GOES LIVE Company founder Ryan Steelberg said he is testing a way to control subscribers' connections so that individual Web sites would download considerably faster. Thus, if Yahoo paid for advertising, anyone going to a Yahoo site would see pages load much more quickly than nonpaying competition. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1366 P - MICROSOFT RULING ISSUED U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson says Microsoft repeatedly violated U.S. antitrust laws; no decision reached on what punishment to levy. 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CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1358 F - GSM ASSOCIATION SCRAMBLING FOR IP ADDRESSES Larger-than-expected rollout plans for 2.5-generation mobile networks have taken the industry by surprise. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1360 F - YOU CAN'T HEAR A PIN DROP, BUT ``HEY, IT'S FREE!'' Pitrie, an office manager from Chalmette, La., has discovered something even more appealing than discounted evening rates and bare-bones long-distance companies: an Internet service that she can use to make unlimited long-distance calls. For free. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1367 ************************************************************************* Do a friend a favor - suggest ICB ... Click Here to Recommend-It(r) http://www.recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=118920 ************************************************************************* more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 4, 2000 P - NUMBER RESOURCE OPTIMIZATION REPORT & ORDER, FNPRM, DOCKET NO. 99-200, FCC 00-104. Full text of Ruling and NPRM. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1370 P - USPTO BECOMES PERFORMANCE BASED ... has greater autonomy within the Commerce Department; complains its lacking for funds. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1359 F - 'VERIZON' THE NEW BA/GTE ID The companies said they expect a full rebranding of the combined company will take 12 to 24 months, and plan to place the new logo that emphasizes the initials V and Z on "key locations" such as payphones. 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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:03:42 -0400 Does anyone besides me have a hard time believing White House counsel Beth Nolan when she makes this statement regarding call detail records to Congressional investigators? "Except for cellular telephones, billing records do not provide any useful information. The vast majority of domestic long distance calls are placed via an FTC number, for which there is no call detail. The small number of domestic calls not placed on FTS lines reflect only one of several trunk lines of origin. The bills do not reflect either the originating number or the full destination number. Internal calls similarly do not reflect the originating number, but do reflect the destination number. Accordingly, there would be no way of ascertaining the billing records for the telephones used by or assigned to the individuals who placed the calls. " So she's telling us that besides long-distance records (which they also claim to have "lost"), the White House phone system does not keep call detail records associating outgoing calls with extensions? Isn't CDR a necessity for any major institution, let alone the EOP?? Maybe the monthly AT&T statements will mysteriously "turn up" when they are discovered next year by cleaning staff in Hillary's bedroom! Alongside a cassette containing the infamous 18 minute gap of Nixon-Haldeman conversations, perhaps!!??!! Maybe Beth Nolan will go the route of Alexander Haig and claim that "Some Sinister Force" took possession of the phone bills. Or maybe Buddy the Dog ate them! Click here for more of this incredible BS: http://www.cpgg.com/insight/item52.shtml ------------------------------ From: Tad Cook Subject: BellSouth and Separations Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:13:17 -0700 BellSouth Response Statement Regarding NC Utilities Commission Order in US LEC Dispute Copyright 1999 Nando Media RALEIGH, N.C., April 3 (Apr 4, 2000 2:7:6 EST) -- BellSouth today issued the following: Background In September 1998 BellSouth filed a complaint with the North Carolina Utilities Commission asking it to declare that US LEC, a competing local exchange company, was improperly invoicing BellSouth for reciprocal compensation resulting from telephone connections established solely for the purpose of attempting to generate reciprocal compensation. Reciprocal compensation is the payment a local exchange company makes to another local exchange company that completes (or "terminates") a call that originated on the other's network. Reciprocal compensation is generally computed on a minutes-of-use basis. The negotiated rate in the interconnection agreement between the carriers and the number and length of the calls determine the amount owed. The amount US LEC claimed for the traffic at issue in the proceeding was approximately $150 million. The traffic was not related to the companies' dispute regarding the payment of reciprocal compensation for Internet Service Provider (ISP) traffic. In August 1999, the NCUC conducted an evidentiary hearing in this matter. US LEC vigorously advocated its position that reciprocal compensation was due for all of the traffic at issue. On March 31, 2000, the Commission issued an order declaring that no reciprocal compensation is due for any of the traffic. In its order, the NCUC concluded, among other things, that: Metacomm, LLC, the entity responsible for generating the traffic at issue and which is indirectly owned by US LEC's Chairman of the Board and controlling shareholder, was formed for the purpose of attempting to generate reciprocal compensation for US LEC, which US LEC agreed to share with Metacomm; Metacomm established thousands of connections between BellSouth's network and US LEC's network and left them open nearly continuously in order to attempt to create as much reciprocal compensation revenue as possible; and US LEC and Metacomm took active steps to not reveal their reciprocal compensation plan to BellSouth. The NCUC ruled that the parties' interconnection agreements did not provide for reciprocal compensation payments for the type of traffic at issue. It further ruled that allowing for the payment of reciprocal compensation, "in light of what US LEC and Metacomm actually did in constructing their network," would be against the public interest. The following statement may be attributed to Clifton Metcalf, Director- Regulatory & External Affairs: "We are pleased by the decision reached by the Commission. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 was designed to foster true competition in the telecommunications marketplace. The NCUC's order upholds both the letter and the spirit of that important legislation. It sends a clear signal that the NCUC will not allow telecommunications carriers doing business in this State to attempt to game the system for their sole benefit and at the expense of the public interest."; ------------------------------ From: Reid Fishler Subject: Bell Atl. Discriminating Against Resellers on AC 516/631 Switch? Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:29:43 -0400 The following is the text of my complaint to the NYS Public Service Commission. It seems like BA is having fun with clients who left them, by making people who are using someone other than BA pay the price, making it look like their phone numbers have been disconnected, with no mention of the area code change. For BA customers, however, the recording clearly states the new area code ... BA is just SO nice ... Reid (If anyone needs the numbers to test this for any reason, slip me an email removing the nospam) Bell Atlantic is placing a "phone number not in service" recording for all old 516, now 631 phone numbers served by a CLEC via resold Bell Atlantic dial tone. Meanwhile, if you are a direct customer of Bell Atlantic, you get a "this number has changed" recording. This has caused me a great amount of lost business, as people believe my phone has been disconnected. For an example, try the following, both numbers are mine, one is billed thru RCN of New York, and one directly with Bell Atlantic: RCN Number: 516692XXXX Bell Atlantic: 516692XXXX Note how the RCN number gives a disconnected recording, where the BA number gives the correct forwarding information. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 08:51:20 -0400 From: Fred Goldstein Subject: Re: CPP, ATM Surcharges In V20I50, Michel Hartley wrote: fg>> CPP operates rather like a collect call. The rate is NOT set by the >> caller's carrier, but by the called carrier. > Yes, at the basic level. But we're in a market here -- telcos neotiate > for mega minute deals so although carrier x may pay a termination > charge of x per minute for his say million minutes a month, carrier y > may pay y (where x>>y) for their 100 million miunutes of terminating > business. That is how it works in the UK, I assume. CPP is based on the "terminating minute" model, like local calls. That's how LOCAL service is priced here, including cellular. > <..>Thus the caller's carrier has no say at all. > Not true. The caller's carrier is free to negotiate with either the > called network or third party transit networks. In reality since > capacity comes from a variety of places you may find that the caller's > network routes calls of a number of different carriers depending on > the time of day/called network. Again, absolutely not the case in the USA. CPP cellular is NOT sold as a terminating minute. It's sold as an information service, chargeable directly to the originating mark, er, caller. It's handled as a 900 service. Intermediate carriers have no say whatsoever over that rate. They do dicker among themselves over the pennies of billing cost, etc., but that's basically noise. fg>> The fact that the rest of the planet uses it doesn't make it right, at >> least for the USA; > Hmm. This would be the same sort of reasoning that landed the USA with > cellular systems which don't even provide contiguous *national* > roaming would it? ;+) Absolutely unrelated. The FCC created over 700 license areas for the original freebie cellular licenses. Bad move, but unrelated to how it was paid for. Roaming was hurt by the inability of Bells to carry inter-LATA traffic; that was later relaxed (only) for wireless. >> I think for once the USA got the right model (cellular subscriber pays for >> their own convenience). > I think you're wrong. What's more I don't think the market has moved > on so far that the 'convenience' argument is a red herring. Here in > the UK we're looking at mobile penetration approaching 80% by the end > of this year. That's not convenience, that's a huge market. And it's > all CPP. Go figure -- but in the end time will tell. There in the UK, you pay 5c/minute for a daytime local wireline call. Here we pay 0.00/minute. So cellular isn't the great bargain, even though it's cheaper here -- my $30/month account (from Verizontal Wireless) gives me 300 minutes plus unlimited nights/weekends, plus the first incoming minute of a call doesn't even count. Compare that to the UK plans. ------------------------------ Reply-To: Watch Meister From: Watch Meister Subject: Erlang Equations? Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:19:15 +0800 Hi, Can anyone recommend a good place to find detailed 'Erlang' equations. I am interested in a number of models including: Erlang B Erlang C Engset Binomial Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:31:28 -0400 From: The Old Bear Subject: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" As summarized in NewsScan Daily for April 4, 2000: > BELL-ATLANTIC LOOKS BEYOND THE BLUE VERIZON FOR A NEW NAME > When it gets approval for its merger with GTE, Bell-Atlantic will be > Bell-Atlantic no more: it will be Verizon, which rhymes with "horizon," > and is intended to suggest both "veritas" (Latin for "truth") and > "horizon" (English for, well, "horizon"). > What was wrong with Bell-Atlantic? "The name literally did not give us > the positives that we need going forward in terms of things that are > innovative, global, able to provide technological expertise. The word > 'Bell' signals voice. Voice, and stop there. We couldn't get to data > with it." > source: Washington Post (4 Apr 2000) > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/business/A5693-2000Apr3.html To subscribe or unsubscribe to the test version of NewsScan Daily, send an e-mail message to NewsScan@NewsScan.com with 'subscribe' in the subject line. See http://www.newsscan.com/ ------------------------------ From: Jeremy Greene Subject: Verizon!! Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:10:55 -0400 NET^H^H^H ... no, NYNEX^H^H^H^H^H ... no, Bell Atla^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H ... no, `we've got it now! Verizon! That's the name of the combined Bell Atlantic / GTE company. Sounds like an anti-impotence drug, if you ask me. According to the press release, "The word Verizon (pronounced vurr-EYE-zon) was selected from more than 8,500 names. The new name comes from the Latin word "veritas," which means truth, and also connotes certainty and reliability ..." ... I know there's a punch line here somewhere, but I'll leave that up to you! http://www.ba.com/proactive/newsroom/release.vtml?id=21623 ------------------------------ From: Rob Slade Organization: Vancouver Institute for Research into User Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:30:46 -0800 Subject: Book Review: "High-Speed Wireless ATM and LANs", Benny Bing Reply-To: rslade@sprint.ca BKHSWAAL.RVW 20000217 "High-Speed Wireless ATM and LANs", Benny Bing, 2000, 1-58053-092-3, U$75.00 %A Benny Bing bennybing@onebox.com %C 685 Canton St., Norwood, MA 02062 %D 2000 %G 1-58053-092-3 %I Artech House/Horizon %O U$75.00 617-769-9750 fax: +1-617-769-6334 artech@artech-house.com %P 249 p. %T "High-Speed Wireless ATM and LANs" The preface promises a concise discussion of wireless data technologies. The book delivers. Chapter one limits the scope of the book a bit further, by restricting the material to local (small extent and non-cellular) arrangements, but gives a good introduction to wireless LANs, and a very good overview of propagation problems. Classification of wireless LANs is covered in chapter two, and although most of the time is spent with spread spectrum technologies, even infrared gets a mention. Implementation lists components, deployment considerations, and performance tuning in chapter three. It also discusses, oddly late in the book, applications and benefits of wireless LANs. Chapter four deals with WLAN standards, including 802.11, HIPERLAN, HomeRF SWAP (Shared Wireless Access Protocol), Bluetooth, and others. Performance evaluation, in chapter five, provides detailed test specifications for some products. Chapter six opens the discussion of wireless ATM (Asynchronous Transfer Mode) technologies, looking at a variety of implementations, and briefly introducing satellite systems. Wireless ATM standardization is covered in chapter seven. In a brief space, Bing has provided a clear and readable introduction to the topic. The illustrations are unusually useful and informative, in comparison to so many authors who seem to throw in figures only to fill up room on the page. When Bing uses a graphic, it is clear and generally self-explanatory, but is also clearly lablelled and captioned. The text is succinct and simple enough for the needs of the busy manager, but still provides the technical specialist with valuable information in regard to selection and deployment. copyright Robert M. Slade, 2000 BKHSWAAL.RVW 20000217 ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade@vcn.bc.ca rslade@sprint.ca slade@victoria.tc.ca p1@canada.com This message is in beta test, but should ship any day now. http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev or http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~rslade ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:20:49 -0500 (CDT) From: wolf@ti.com Subject: Re: Spring Ahead Season #> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For how many ever years, Chicago had #> CAThedral 8-8000 which was really the same as DEArborn 2-8000. Then #> one day that vanished in lieu of a 976 number with a additional charge #> for using it. Believe it or not, for many years in the 1920-30's era, #> CAThedral 8000 was manually answered by operators who would answer the #> call by announcing the time then hanging up. At some point or another, #> that got to be a pain and they began using a pre-recorded #> announcement. PAT] Is time really a recording? Or is it synthesized (from recordings of 1, 2, 3, 'the time is now', etc. or whatever else) at the proper second? -W [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It is as you suggest. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:31:43 -0700 From: Arthur Ross Subject: Re: Spring Ahead Season Pat - Gee - hasn't anyone noticed that those CDMA phones, of which I am so fond, are synchronized to GPS time, +/- a few nanoseconds (like about 50, IIRC)? If you just want to set your clock at a sortof button-pushing level of accuracy, the nearest CDMA phone is about as accurate as anything that is easily accessible. The displayed time is supposed to be adjusted, at the discretion of the local operator, to the local time zone, and to daylight vs standard time, as appropriate. The phone itself, internally, is synchronized within a chip (about 800 ns) of what it is receiving, which will differ from what the cell is transmitting by one propagation delay -- about 6 microseconds per mile -- from the cell site. -- Best, -- Arthur ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #51 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Wed Apr 5 21:20:06 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21056; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:20:06 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004060120.VAA21056@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #52 TELECOM Digest Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:20:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 52 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Virus Dials 9-1-1 ? (Tad Cook) Tone Phones Not Dialing (Robert McDonald) Grammar to Play Prerecorded Voice Prompts (Balaji Sundara) Area Code & Zip Code Data Base Wanted (Administrator) Caller ID When I Tried Calling About the Census (Carl Moore) Re: Recruitment (Penny Samec) Re: Erlang Equations? (Diego Betancor) Re: Erlang Equations? (Rick Ellis) Re: Erlang Equations? (John Tombs) Re: Erlang Equations? (B.L. Bodnar) Re: Use of WWW in Domain Names (TelcoRock) Re: Spring Ahead Season (Mike Pollock) Re: Those White House Phone Records (Charles B. Wilber) Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" (Tony Pelliccio) Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest (Fred Goldstein) AT+T Transcontinental Cable Marker (Patrick Tufts) Question about Access Network Information Model (Simon CaiMao) 3.4 GHz to 3.6 GHz - International Activity (D. E. 'Omar' Jennings) CVAs (Hugh Pritchard) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. Contact information: Patrick Townson/TELECOM Digest Post Office Box 259 Independence, KS 67301 Phone: 805-545-5115 Email: editor@telecom-digest.org Subscribe/unsubscribe: subscriptions@telecom-digest.org This Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal about telecomm- unications on the Internet, having been founded in August, 1981 and published continuously since then. Our archives are available for your review/research. 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Our attorney is Bill Levant, of Blue Bell, PA. In addition, a gift from Mike Sandman, Chicago's Telecom Expert has enabled me to replace some obsolete computer equipment and enter the 21st century sort of on schedule. His mail order telephone parts/supplies service based in the Chicago area has been widely recognized by Digest readers as a reliable and very inexpensive source of telecom-related equipment. Please request a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tad Cook Subject: Virus Dials 9-1-1 ? Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:08:26 -0700 FBI investigating computer virus that calls 911 HOUSTON (April 4, 2000 4:21 p.m. EDT www.nandotimes.com - The FBI says a virus that erases hard drives and makes bogus 911 calls may be threatening computers in the Houston area. Investigators with the National Infrastructure Protection Center, a multi-agency task force charged with investigating cyber-related crime in the United States and abroad, said it is looking for evidence of the virus in other cities. "Whenever this type of activity occurs over the Internet, all possibilities of nationwide effects are looked into," Debbie Weierman, an FBI spokeswoman, said Tuesday. The virus surfaced in Houston Monday. According to NIPC, the virus spreads by attacking computers with Windows operating systems set up to allow users to share files over the Internet. Emergency call centers were first warned of the virus Monday morning, said Sonya Lopez, spokeswoman for the Greater Harris County 911 Network. Only one bogus call has been received, she said. Weierman said the NIPC's investigation is continuing and is looking at the "scope of the damage and what effects this particular virus has possibly caused." ------------------------------ From: Robert McDonald Subject: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:13:19 -0500 Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US This is a question about POTS. All of a sudden, three identical vintage 1983 touchtone telephones have stopped working properly at one house. They work fine at other houses, and other phones work fine at this house. The problem is that several weeks ago the phones stopped dialing, after years of working correctly. There is a dial tone, but when you press a number nothing happens and you still have the dial tone when you release the number. This happens on three phones and not on more recent phones. It seems quite unlikely to me that three phones would suffer identical simultaneous failures, so my hypothesis is that something has changed on the telco end. However, as you might guess, the phone company (Bell Atlantic) is no help, saying that as long as any phones work, they don't consider it a problem. My question is: what could be making this happen? Where do I begin to look for an answer? Many thanks in advance. Bob r-mcdonald@nwu.edu [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What may have happened is the phone company quit providing touch tone service to the lines. They usually do not do that, but if it comes to their attention that tone dial phones are being used in a case where the fee for same is not being paid, they reserve the right to remove the gizmo which listens to and detects the tone dialing. Does the line still work correctly with rotary dialing? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Balaji Sundara Subject: Grammar to Play Prerecorded Voice Prompts Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:14:33 -0400 Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie I am looking for resources which describe the following: For example: I need to play 1200.56 (a currency amount) in let's say American English 1. I have pre-recorded prompts for one thousand two hundred fifty six dollars cents and 2. If I wanted my application to play the amount in American English it would dynamically (based on rules) say "one thousand two hundred dollars and fifty six cents" I want to find out if there is a standard grammar to describe this in English and other languages. Balaji Sundara CCBU - Network Applications 978-275-7688 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 11:01:17 -0700 From: Administrator Organization: Idea International, Inc. Subject: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted Do you happen to have a working database for the area codes in relation to their zip codes? One in Access or CGI scripting (or any other format for that matter) would be great. Information regarding this would be appreciated, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:42:36 EDT From: Carl Moore Subject: Caller ID When I Tried Calling About the Census I made a couple of calls to offices for census 2000 and was told of a toll-free number I could call. So I called the toll-free number from my office, reached an automated system, and during that call it read back the number I was supposedly calling from! It turns out the number it read back was not my office number, but the same number that shows up on bills for calling card calls from my office. It asked if that was my home telephone number; it wasn't, so I had to punch in my home telephone number. Before the toll-free call, I was told that many people didn't receive census forms. In my case, it may have been that my home is rather new (built 1996). (All of the above happened before I learned about that young woman in Rochester, NY getting flooded with census-related calls.) ------------------------------ From: pennys@wardvinge.com (Penny Samec) Subject: Employment Opportunity: PBX Installation Technician Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:39:12 -0600 Senior PBX Installation Technician - Calgary An immediate need currently exists for a qualified senior PBX installation technician. You are a hands-on, roll your sleeves up type of leader who enjoys mentoring others. You have a solid background in the telecommunications industry, direct PBX installation experience and a great foundation to build upon with respect to leading, customer service and quality work. Product experience required includes - Nortel Meridian 1 (option 11-81's), Call Centre - Meridian MAIL, Meridian MAX, CCR, Meridian LINK, Symposium, Call Pilot, Octel experience an asset. Full benefits, ongoing training and support, a SUPERB organization and totally dedicated people to work with! Some travel required. Salary is commensurate with experience. If you or anyone you know would be interested in this and other related opportunities becoming available, please forward a resume to: e-mail: pennys@wardvinge.com Fax: 266-3386 Attn: Penny Samec Re: PBX Technician ------------------------------ From: dbetancorNOSPAM@duocom.net (Diego Betancor) Subject: Re: Erlang Equations? Organization: Duo Business Communications LLC Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:26:23 GMT go to www.erlang.com Watch Meister wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good place to find detailed 'Erlang' equations. I am > interested in a number of models including: > Erlang B > Erlang C > Engset > Binomial Diego Betancor @ Duo Business Communications for email: dbetancor is my userid and my company's domain is duocom.net ** Do not send me unsolicited commercial e-mail spam of any kind ** ------------------------------ From: ellis@ftel.net (Rick Ellis) Subject: Re: Erlang Equations? Date: 5 Apr 2000 15:53:11 GMT Organization: Franklin interNet http://www.franklin.net In article , Watch Meister wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good place to find detailed 'Erlang' equations. I am > interested in a number of models including: > Erlang B > Erlang C > Engset > Binomial Try http://members.iinet.net/~clark/EquationsMask-991101.pdf http://www.fnet.net/~ellis/photo/ ------------------------------ From: John Tombs Subject: Re: Erlang Equations? Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:49:33 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Try http://www.erlang.com John > Can anyone recommend a good place to find detailed 'Erlang' equations. ------------------------------ From: bohdan@ihgp4.ih.lucent.com (B.L. Bodnar) Subject: Re: Erlang Equations? Date: 5 Apr 2000 12:59:11 GMT Organization: Lucent Technologies In article , Watch Meister wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good place to find detailed 'Erlang' equations. I am > interested in a number of models including: Any textbook on queueing theory will cover all four cases. Many do not explicitly cover the Engset distribution (look for "machine service model" -- the Engset distribution is the distribution of the number of active repairmen, I think). The binomial distribution is covered in any probability textbook. Try: Cooper, Robert, B., "INTRODUCTION TO QUEUEING THEORY,", second edition, North-Holland, 1981. Everything you want is covered in the first 100 pages. You can also purchase a solution manual for this book. Cooper's notation is, in my opinion, somewhat atrocious, but it is certainly readable. Regards, Bohdan Bodnar Lucent Technologies, Inc. ------------------------------ From: TelcoRock Subject: Re: Use of WWW in Domain Names Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:01:44 -0500 What those ads mean when they say "Internet Keyword: blah" is that they have a "Realname" registered (with appropriately "realnames.com"). Some browsers (IE 5 and NeoPlanet, I believe) and search engines (About, Altavista and MSN as well as others) will first check for a registered 'realname' corresponding to the person's input. Those ads with the Internet Keyword are probably referring to this Realnames stuff. John Dirgo TelcoRock http://www.telcorock.com ; "Ki Suk" wrote in message news:telecom20.45.17@telecom-digest.org... >> From: JF Mezei >> Subject: Use of WWW in Domain Names >> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:53:22 -0500 >> A while ago, there was some discussion on the redundant use of >> "www"in domain names for web sites. More and more sites seem to be >> ditching the WWW, but wait, the story isn't over... > I remember that some browsers will "help" you and add the initial > 'www.' and the trailing '.com' when you enter just a word in the > address box. Now, I've seen buses with dot-com ads on them and in the > lower right corner there is this: "Internet keyword: blah", where blah > is the company in www.company.com . I guess > this is similar to the "AOL keyword" also seen in lots of places. But > going back to the redundancy of the initial Ws, I've been to places > that will only take company.com but not www.company.com > , and, I don't know, to me that's kinda > irritating. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:38:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Pollock Subject: Re: Spring Ahead Season While we're on the subject, get a BeepwearPro Watch at http://www.beepwear.com. It's a Timex watch and a Motorola Alphanumerica pager that sets its own time using Motorola's FlexTime protocol. Mike > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:31:43 -0700 > From: Arthur Ross > Subject: Re: Spring Ahead Season > Gee - hasn't anyone noticed that those CDMA phones, > of which I am so fond, > are synchronized to GPS time, +/- a few nanoseconds > (like about 50, IIRC)? > If you just want to set your clock at a sortof > button-pushing level of > accuracy, the nearest CDMA phone is about as > accurate as anything that is > easily accessible. The displayed time is supposed to > be adjusted, at the > discretion of the local operator, to the local time > zone, and to daylight > vs standard time, as appropriate. ------------------------------ Date: 05 Apr 2000 09:47:21 EDT From: Charles.B.Wilber@Dartmouth.EDU (Charles B. Wilber) Reply-To: Charles.B.Wilber@Dartmouth.EDU (Charles B. Wilber) Subject: Re: Those White House Phone Records --- You wrote: > Does anyone besides me have a hard time believing White House counsel > Beth Nolan when she makes this statement regarding call detail records > to Congressional investigators? That is not just difficult to believe ... it is impossible to believe. Some of us still recall the vigorously suppressed scandal that occurred shortly after the Clinton bunch took up residence in the White House. As one of his first official actions, Clinton purchased a brand new PBX for the White House. It was scandalous becuase the contract was gratuitously awarded with no pretense of putting it out to bid. I don't recall which vendor received the contract but I cannot believe that a PBX purchased new in 1992 would not easily accommodate CDR (SMDR) collection and archiving. It is simply not believable that these records are not generated and stored. Nor do I believe that the 'lost' records are any more lost than Hillary's Rose Law Firm billing records were lost. This thing walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck. I think it's a duck. Charles Wilber Dartmouth College ------------------------------ From: nospam.tonypo1@nospam.home.com (Tony Pelliccio) Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Organization: Providence Network Partners Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 22:25:47 GMT In article , oldbear@arctos.com says: > As summarized in NewsScan Daily for April 4, 2000: >> BELL-ATLANTIC LOOKS BEYOND THE BLUE VERIZON FOR A NEW NAME >> When it gets approval for its merger with GTE, Bell-Atlantic will be >> Bell-Atlantic no more: it will be Verizon, which rhymes with "horizon," >> and is intended to suggest both "veritas" (Latin for "truth") and >> "horizon" (English for, well, "horizon"). Verizon? I suppose Veriphone was already taken, or that they just couldn't buy it. >> What was wrong with Bell-Atlantic? "The name literally did not give us >> the positives that we need going forward in terms of things that are >> innovative, global, able to provide technological expertise. The word >> 'Bell' signals voice. Voice, and stop there. We couldn't get to data >> with it." To some Bell means voice, to others of us it has a whole different meaning. It brings up memories of a phone company that just doesn't care. I think a more appropriate choice of names for Bell Atlantic would be to simply change the name to Hell Atlantic. It says everything about BA that needs to be said and most people alread know them by that name anyhow. Tony Pelliccio, KD1S formerly KD1NR Trustee WE1RD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:58:46 -0400 From: Fred Goldstein Subject: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Last June 22, I announced here in the Digest a contest to "name that domain". Bell Titanic had announced its intent to acquire GTE, and needed a name that worked better than "Bell Atlantic" in such diverse GTE territories as California, Hawaii, Saipan and Redmond, WA. But there was no new name. So the contest was to guess the name, register it in the ".com" space, and wait for Bell to buy it. This wouldn't be cybersquatting, since it was not based on taking any extant corporate name or trademark, rather it would just be getting there first. The contest is over. So far as I can tell, no Digest readers have won. Ditching years of brand equity built up in the shared "Bell" trademark which it acquired when it was spun off of AT&T, Bell Titanic's branding company (anybody know which one they used?) came up with the toe-tapping "Verizon". (At least it doesn't end in -ent! To think that Agilent actually *paid* for that name.) From what I can tell, "Verizon" is a shortened form of the portmanteau "Verizontal", from "we control the vertical, we control the horizontal". Maybe it's an allusion, then, to "the Outer Limits of Telecommunications". Or perhaps, given their newly-fattened mobile empire (a JV with Vodaphone Airtouch), they are worrying about vertical towers blown over by a storm into a horizontal position. I can't wait for the artwork. One can imagine all sorts of other images around "horizontal". But then it's hard to understand the kind of creative minds (and I use that term loosely) work in those brand-name consultancies. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:59:58 -0700 From: Patrick Tufts Subject: AT+T Transcontinental Cable Marker Organization: SBC Internet Services Do markers for underground "AT+T transcontinental cable" always mean cold-war era communications lines like the L-4 system? http://www1.shore.net/~mfoster/L4.html Or are there any other communications systems marked this way? The markers are near the phone switch building in the Presidio of San Francisco. The Presidio was an Army base until around 1990, and was also a Nike missile site. Pat ------------------------------ From: Simon CaiMao Subject: Question About Access Network Information Model Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:55:51 +0800 There are two MO in AN information model:anBearerChannelCurrentData, anBearerChannelHistoryData, commChannelCurrentData, and commChannelHistoryData. I searched Q.822 Q824.5 but still can't find their attributes' meaning, anyone met them before? Thanx in advance. ------------------------------ From: D. E. 'Omar' Jennings Subject: 3.4 GHz to 3.6 GHz - International Activity Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:19:00 -0400 Organization: WFI, Inc. Is Japan setting aside 3.4 GHz to 3.6 GHz for point to multipoint or anything ? How about other countries? WFI - Telecom Strategy Group D.E. 'Omar' Jennings, Director Desk: 703.481.1113 FAX: 703.481.2390 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:27 EDT From: Hugh Pritchard Subject: CVAs Organization: MCI WorldCom ITO I too had a CVA. It was 26 years ago, in 1974, when I was 20. At that time, 90% of people who had aneurisms died. You were lucky. I did not have an aneurism. I had some kind of blockage (thrombus or embolism, they weren't sure which) of my middle cerebral artery. The statistics for my kind of CVA were 35% died within 1 to 10 days, 50% had some major impediment (needed a wheelchair or cane, couldn't talk, etc.), 15% were (mostly) all right. I'm in this last category. Hugh Hugh Pritchard, M.Sc. Mailto: Hugh.Pritchard@WCom.com metro Washington, DC [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My paternal grandfather had an aneurism in the early 1960's when I was in my twenties. He died on the spot. I was *very* lucky to survive, even though in the first month home from the hospital, I wished a few times I had died instead. I am still feeling sort of miserable about the whole thing. I still have not gotten used to the fact that I am not going to be able -- ever again -- to do a lot of the things I used to do; and go the places I used to go and meet the kinds of people I used to meet. Now I just hobble around with my cane and grow tired very easily. But God did not take me this time; I guess there is still work for me to do. I still have a hard time concentrating on things like my web sites, my Digests, etc. Somehow I'll survive in life; I always have, but this past winter has been one of my hardest. At the Kansas Rehabilitation Hospital, my therapists all admired the several gifts which arrived for me every couple days. Those were my darkest days, after coming out of the coma (three weeks), being literally unable to care for myself at all. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #52 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Wed Apr 5 23:09:10 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA25351; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:09:10 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004060309.XAA25351@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #53 TELECOM Digest Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:09:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 53 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Bounced Mail Get Me in Trouble (TELECOM Digest Editor) 4/5 ICBTollFree.Com Heads up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer) Undernet Serves as Hearth and Home for High-Tech Anarchists (Monty Solomon) Lauren Meets The Art Bell Radio Show (Lauren Weinstein) Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" (L. Winson) Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" (Paul Coen) Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" (Joel B. 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Thank you, welcome back, hope your recovery goes fast and well!, Paul Gloger ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Subject: 4/5 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:04:44 -0400 ************************************************************************* ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES ************************************************************************* from ICB Toll Free News - Daily News and Intelligence covering the Political, Legal and Marketing Arenas of 800 and Dot Com. ************************************************************************* ARTICLE ACCESS CODE LEGEND ICB Toll Free News offers two valuable service options: F = Free - News and Features articles P = Premium - Unlimited Site Access including all Articles and Documents. ************************************************************************* ISSUE WATCH covers important matters pending resolution. Current focus: P - Roll-out of new toll free codes 866 and 855 is delayed SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1186 P - SNAC demands End to End Performance Commitments and Level of Service SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1255 P - Toll Free quietly falls under auspices of new INC Audit Committee SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=866 P - ICANN DNSO seeks public comment on Famous Marks & gTLD's >> NEW << SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1393 P - Vapor-constituency: ICANN At Large Membership ... SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1224 P - ICANN called on the carpet by the three Regional Internet Registries SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1134 F - Do No Harm: Reform the Domain Dispute System SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1294 F - CyberHQ - THE NEW IMPERIALISM SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=558ALISM ************************************************************************* >>>> NOTABLE QUOTE: "The trademark lobby must be placated because of its potential ability and inclination to bankrupt new registrars and wreck havoc on their registrant databases." P -http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1393 >>>> PATENT PENDING: ... for "800WEB" approach: uses 800 numbers as web addresses in direct response commercials. Allows TV viewers to either call the 800 number or enter it into their web browser and order online through the 800WEBMALL.com site. P - http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1389 >>>> MUST-READ (LONG AND WORTH IT) EDITORIAL: A major implication of the Internet model is that value is not created in the network, but at the edges, by users. This means that new applications, new value, can be created without the permission, control, or involvement of the network owner. Carriers derive no benefit from this new value beyond the new traffic it spawns. F - http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1395 ************************************************************************* HEADLINES FOR APRIL 5, 2000 P - NUMBER PORTABILITY: THE SERVICE BUREAU APPROACH The agreement enables U.S. Cellular to route calls from its wireless customers, using Illuminet's SS7 network, to wireline phone numbers that have been ported. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1380 F - BUY.COM v. BUY.COM.AU Buy.com owner eVentures has also been involved in a low-level spat with an events marketing company, eVentures (Australia), which has owned the domain eventures.com.au since 1996. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1382 P - WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE 'SQUATTER' IS THE GOVERNMENT? UK Online says the government is trampling over its trademark, and has every right to be concerned with this egregious example of 21st Century British imperialism. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1384 F - U.S. THREATENS TO TAKE MEXICO TO WTO Mexican long-distance operators affiliated with U.S.-based AT&T and MCI WorldCom have struggled for years to compete with Telefonos de Mexico (Telmex), the former Mexican state phone monopoly, and have put pressure on the Clinton administration to take action. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1386 F - NETHEADS VERSUS BELLHEADS A major implication of the Internet model is that value is not created in the network, but at the edges, by users. This means that new applications, new value, can be created at the edge of the network, without the permission, control, or involvement of the network owner. And when network ownership is de-coupled from value creation, carriers derive no benefit from this new value beyond the new traffic it spawns. For this reason, the Bellheads will fight the Internet vision with all their strength. Subtitled "Research into Emerging Policy Issues in the Development and Deployment of Internet Protocols," this is a must-read report by Timothy Denton, with Franois Menard and David Isenberg. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1395 ************************************************************************* >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< 800 & Domain Name Acquisition Management, Lost/Stolen 800 # Retrieval, Litigation Support, Regulatory Navigation, Correlating Domain Name & Trademark Matters. When success is the only option. >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< ************************************************************************* more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 5, 2000 P - SWEDEN BANS USE OF .COM IN CORPORATE NAMES While Lastminute.com in Britain and Amazon.com in the US have become household brands, in Sweden the registration of such names is no longer allowed. The Swedish patents and registration office, PRV, has banned new companies from including in their names not only .com but .se, the country's domain name, and any company names that include www and the sign @. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1390 P - MORE EMAIL ACCOUNTS THAN PHONES IN 2 YEARS What has taken the telephone industry 125 years to do and what has taken television 50 years to do, e-mail will have done in 20 years. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1391 P - TELSURF PURSUES THE B2B MARKET ... announces marketing agreement with voice ASP service provider. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1392 P - FAMOUS MARKS LIST & NEW GTLD'S "The trademark lobby must be placated because of its potential ability and inclination to bankrupt new registrars and wreck havoc on their registrant databases." CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1393 F - INTERNET.COM ACQUIRES DOMAINBOOK.COM & UMCLAIMEDOMAINS.COM ``As the reseller market for domain names continues to expand, it is essential to provide our community of Web developers and E-commerce professionals with a service to fulfill their domain name requirements, in addition to domain name industry information,'' said internet.com chairman and CEO Alan M. Meckler. ``Further, we have now formed a platform by which we can build a premier marketplace for the buying and selling of one of the Internet industry's most highly valued commodities.'' CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1394 ************************************************************************* Do a friend a favor - suggest ICB ... Click Here to Recommend-It(r) http://www.recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=118920 ************************************************************************* F - NEW .CA REGISTRATION PROCESS DUE IN JUNE The current system, operated by volunteers at the University of British Columbia, will only register names to Canadian corporations, charities, trademark holders or proprietorships with offices in more than one province. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1381 P - FREEDOM PHONES V. FREEDOM COMMUNICATIONS Who gets FreedomPhones.com? CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1383 P - 75% OF NET TRANSACTIONS NOT RELATED TO ORDER PLACEMENT ... according to a new study released by Pittiglio Rabin Todd & McGrath (PRTM) Performance Study Group. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1385 P - TELSURF & EBALANCE STRIKE DEAL ... to provide eBalance customers with tollfree voice access to Web-based personal financial account data, from any telephone. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1387 F - NEW INTERNET STANDARDS BODY LEAD BY NORTEL Networking rivals Cisco Systems Inc. and Lucent Technologies Inc. are not in the group which includes such big-league players as computer firms Hewlett-Packard Co. , Sun Microsystems , British Telecommunications Plc and broadcasters like the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) and NBC's Internet unit. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1388 P - REVSHARE CORP ACQUIRES 800WEBMALL.COM ... purchase includes patent pending ``800WEB'' approach for using 800 numbers as web addresses in direct response commercials. 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All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:25:30 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Undernet Serves as Hearth and Home For High-Tech Anarchists By Keith Dawson The Web is a network built on the Internet, its servers and pages and images knit together with hyperlinks. Usenet is a wholly separate network, headless, peer-to-peer, linked by nothing more than tacit agreements. Other networks coexist with these on the Internet: some more anarchic and ungovernable even than the Web, some frankly subversive of laws and customs, freedom wired into their very architecture. They compose the Undernet. http://www.digitalmass.com/columns/internet/0405.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:09 PDT From: lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein) Subject: Lauren Meets The Art Bell Radio Show Hi Pat, I hope you're progressing well and are feeling better. I thought I'd mention that I'm booked for at least two hours on the Art Bell show (with one of his guest hosts) to talk about Internet, Privacy, and such. About 500 stations. This Friday night, from 11PM to at least 1AM PDT. http://www.artbell.com has station lists and such. Take care. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren@pfir.org or lauren@vortex.com Co-Founder, PFIR: People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy ------------------------------ From: lwinson@bbs.cpcn.com (L. Winson) Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Date: 6 Apr 2000 01:47:23 GMT Organization: The PACSIBM SIG BBS From what I read it is only the mobile phone unit, not the entire company. ------------------------------ From: Paul Coen Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:50:38 -0400 Organization: Drew University Tony Pelliccio wrote: > To some Bell means voice, to others of us it has a whole different > meaning. It brings up memories of a phone company that just doesn't care. > I think a more appropriate choice of names for Bell Atlantic would be to > simply change the name to Hell Atlantic. It says everything about BA that > needs to be said and most people alread know them by that name anyhow. As a side note, I checked Network Solutions' database, and someone's already registered "verizonsucks.com" -- it doesn't seem to be the same person who registered verizon.com, though, or the same person who registered "verizonbites.com" ------------------------------ From: Joel B Levin Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Organization: On the desert Reply-To: levinjb@gte.net Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 01:45:45 GMT In , nospam.tonypo1@nospam.home.com (Tony Pelliccio) wrote: > In article , oldbear@arctos.com > says: >> What was wrong with Bell-Atlantic? > To some Bell means voice, to others of us it has a whole different > meaning. Also, a new name supports the position of both B-A and GTE that the current process is a merger rather than an acquisition of GTE by B-A. Outside commentators don't seem to see it that way, though. /JBL ------------------------------ From: John McHarry Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:43:09 -0400 On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:31:28 -0400, The Old Bear wrote: ... >> What was wrong with Bell-Atlantic? "The name literally did not give us >> the positives that we need going forward in terms of things that are 'Verizon' sounds like a credit reporting agency, or maybe a breathalizer. ------------------------------ From: John McHarry Subject: Re: White House Claims: "We Don't Keep Call Detail Records!" Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:38:42 -0400 On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:03:42 -0400, Jeremy Greene shrieked: > Does anyone besides me have a hard time believing White House counsel > Beth Nolan when she makes this statement regarding call detail records > to Congressional investigators? > "Except for cellular telephones, billing records do not provide any > useful information. The vast majority of domestic long distance calls > are placed via an FTC number, for which there is no call detail. The > small number of domestic calls not placed on FTS lines reflect only > one of several trunk lines of origin. The bills do not reflect either > the originating number or the full destination number. Internal calls > similarly do not reflect the originating number, but do reflect the > destination number. Accordingly, there would be no way of ascertaining > the billing records for the telephones used by or assigned to the > individuals who placed the calls. " Several years ago FTS2000 call detail records did record the termination number. The origination could only indicate the outgoing trunk group, in all known cases. Off net calls would do the same. Per minute charges have dropped so low since I would not even bat an eye to hear that FTS has dropped CDRs entirely. They would probably cost more than the call itself. There used to be a large number of Federal PBXs that didn't have direct inward dialing on their off net trunks. If that is still the case, which is quite plausible, off net CDRs would only show the destination switchboard number. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:27:47 -0500 From: bennett@peacefire.org Subject: ACLU and Peacefire Appeal Cyber Patrol Ruling Reply-To: peacefire-press@iain.com The ACLU has filed an appeal against a Boston judge's ruling that bars the posting of the "CPHack" program, which decodes the encrypted Cyber Patrol database and reveals the list of sites that the program blocks. The judge's decision is online at: http://www.epic.org/free_speech/censorware/cp_injunction.html (unfortunately, still in scanned format -- takes a while to load). Yesterday's news of a court's ruling that computer source code is protected under the First Amendment, is also good news for the CPHack case. Peter Junger had the right to post encryption source code on his Web site, even though the National Security Agency claimed that crypto code was restricted from export. A ruling that the First Amendment applies to source code clears the way for a ruling that posting of the CPHack program is also legal. (Not to mention similar programs written by Peacefire, including blocked-site-list-codebreakers for CYBERsitter and I-Gear, both of which prompted legal threats from the companies.) The CPHack program -- in spite of all efforts by Mattel's lawyers to erase it from existence -- is still available for download from any of the mirror sites linked from: http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/ Below is the text of the ACLU's press release on the appeal. I can be reached at (425) 649 9024 or bennett@peacefire.org; contact information for ACLU spokespersons is in the press release below. ********** ACLU Appeals Ruling on Posting of Cyber Patrol Internet "Blacklist" Key FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, April 5, 2000 CONTACT: Emily Whitfield, national ACLU (212) 549-2566 or 2666/cell phone (917) 686-4542 ewhitfield@aclu.org John Roberts or Sarah Wunsch, ACLU of Massachusetts (617) 482-3170 David Sobel, EPIC (202) 544-9240 NEW YORK--Vowing to fight legal efforts to stifle criticism of Internet "censorware," the American Civil Liberties Union is appealing a Boston judge's order prohibiting distribution of a program that allows owners of Cyber Patrol blocking software to learn which Web sites are "blacklisted." Several weeks ago, two researchers posted a decoding program on the Internet that revealed sites blocked by Cyber Patrol (NYSE:MAT), a software company owned by toy giant Mattel Inc. On March 28, responding to a lawsuit brought by Cyber Patrol, U.S. District Court Judge Edward F. Harrington issued an order that the ACLU says prohibits the decoding program from appearing on Web sites all around the world. The ACLU is appealing on behalf of three U.S. Web site operators who "mirrored" (posted duplicate copies of) the original decoding program. "The legal issue here is whether a Boston court has jurisdiction over the entire Internet, and our answer to that is a resounding no,'" said ACLU senior staff attorney Chris Hansen. "The larger issue is whether Cyber Patrol and other software companies are going to tell the American public exactly what their software blocks, especially when Congress wants to force both children and adults to use it." The ACLU has also asked Judge Harrington to stay his order as to mirror sites while the appeal goes forward. Hansen said the ACLU acted after its clients began receiving notices from Cyber Patrol's attorneys ordering them to abide by the terms of the court's March 28 ruling. All three ACLU clients (Lindsay Haisley, Bennett Haselton and Waldo L. Jaquith) temporarily have removed their mirror copies of the decoding program. If Harrington rejects the ACLU's request for a stay, Hansen said, the next step will be to ask the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, also based in Boston, for a stay. The ACLU filed both its Notice of Appeal before Judge Harrington and the Request for a Stay on the decision before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit late yesterday. The case was filed by Hansen of the national ACLU along with staff attorney Sarah Wunsch of the ACLU's Massachusetts affiliate, Jessica Litman, a visiting law professor at New York University, and David Sobel, legal counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center based in Washington, D.C. Judge Harrington's injunction is online at http://www.epic.org/free_speech/censorware/cp_injunction.html The ACLU's previous news release in the matter, including links to previous legal papers filed in the case, is online at http://www.aclu.org/news/2000/n032800b.html. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Apr 2000 18:09:22 -0400 From: johnl@iecc.com (John R. Levine) Subject: Re: CPP, ATM Surcharges Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY USA >> CPP operates rather like a collect call. The rate is NOT set by the >> caller's carrier, but by the called carrier. ... > Yes, at the basic level. But we're in a market here -- telcos neotiate > for mega minute deals so although carrier x may pay a termination > charge of x per minute for his say million minutes a month, carrier y > may pay y (where x>>y) for their 100 million miunutes of terminating > business. You're confusing two rather separate things. Telcos do indeed negotiate termination fees, that's all set, as you can tell from the fact that you can call any cell phone from anywhere. But the negotiations are all done on a sent-paid basis, the caller's telco sets the price and the termination fee is at most a few cents per minute on the most overpriced of recip comp cellular connections and more typically a small fraction of a cent per minute. These charges are low enough that most long distance in the US is completely flat rated -- I pay the same per minute rate for any interstate call in the US, because it's not worth the effort for my carrier to try to keep track of which calls cost them more to carry. > <..>Thus the caller's carrier has no say at all. > Not true. The caller's carrier is free to negotiate with either the > called network or third party transit networks. Indeed, and if I were a third party transit network, I would say "forget it". None of the LD or transit carriers have any scheme set up to pass a surcharge through to customers on normal calls, and I can't imagine that they'd have any enthusiasm to set one up just for a few cheapskate cell users. As I've mentioned before, we already have a setup for calls with surcharges -- area codes 500 and 900, which automatically direct the call to the serving carrier who then attempts to bill the surcharge to the number that's making the call. As you may know, 500 numbers are blocked in almost as many places as 900 numbers, for the same reason, surcharged calls made by people not authorized to do so. (Think employees behind a PBX, for example.) As a result, 500 is dead, which should give us a hint about how well CPP would work. > I think you're wrong. What's more I don't think the market has moved > on so far that the 'convenience' argument is a red herring. Here in > the UK we're looking at mobile penetration approaching 80% by the end > of this year. That's not convenience, that's a huge market. And it's > all CPP. Go figure -- but in the end time will tell. North American telecom is very different from the rest of the world. We have different technical standards (we got there first), and we have much cheaper calls. CPP gets relatively little resistance in places like England where all calls have a high per minute cost. Here in the US where most local calls are free or a low fixed charge per call, we're not real interested in finding time bombs on our phone bills just because we call someone's mobile number. Finally, if you look at what's happening in the PCS market, you'll see plans with huge numbers of bundled minutes, so many that users often think of their phone as being flat rate. I can't see any motion toward CPP there. John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869 johnl@iecc.com, Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:47:36 -0700 From: Rob McMillin Subject: Re: Privacy Pervasive in Policy Organization: SBC Internet Services Anonymous User wrote: >> http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,35152,00.html > I thought Know Your Customer had been killed before becoming law, > maybe a year or two ago. The link to the article detailing KYC dates > back to 12/98. > So is KYC really enacted? KYC was enacted BEFORE the big hullabaloo. Your bank is required to snoop on you -- if it's FDIC insured. The thing that was galling was the attempt to force privately insured banks into this spy net. It was THAT which got canned. Attempts to reverse Know Your Customer In The Biblical Sense have met with indifference. http://www.pricegrabber.com | The best deals, all the time. Put "rabbit" in your Subject:, or my spam-schnauzer will eat your message. Speed costs money -- how fast do you wanna go? ------------------------------ From: lwinson@bbs.cpcn.com (L. Winson) Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: 6 Apr 2000 01:46:22 GMT Organization: The PACSIBM SIG BBS > This is a question about POTS. All of a sudden, three identical vintage > 1983 touchtone telephones have stopped working properly at one > house. They work fine at other houses, and other phones work fine at > this house. Perhaps in some street re-wiring, the polarity was reversed. The older touch tone phones require strict polarity or the tones won't go out. Since more recent phones do work on his line, that may be the case. > The problem is that several weeks ago the phones stopped dialing, > after years of working correctly. There is a dial tone, but when you > press a number nothing happens and you still have the dial tone when > you release the number. This happens on three phones and not on more > recent phones. It seems quite unlikely to me that three phones would > suffer identical simultaneous failures, so my hypothesis is that > something has changed on the telco end. However, as you might guess, > the phone company (Bell Atlantic) is no help, saying that as long as > any phones work, they don't consider it a problem. > My question is: what could be making this happen? Where do I begin to > look for an answer? Many thanks in advance. > Bob > r-mcdonald@nwu.edu > company quit providing touch tone service to the lines. They usually > do not do that, but if it comes to their attention that tone dial > phones are being used in a case where the fee for same is not being > paid, they reserve the right to remove the gizmo which listens to > and detects the tone dialing. Does the line still work correctly > with rotary dialing? PAT] ------------------------------ From: richgr@netcom.com (Rich Greenberg) Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: 6 Apr 2000 01:45:31 GMT Organization: Organized? Me? In article , Robert McDonald wrote: > This is a question about POTS. All of a sudden, three identical vintage > 1983 touchtone telephones have stopped working properly at one > house. They work fine at other houses, and other phones work fine at > this house. > The problem is that several weeks ago the phones stopped dialing, > after years of working correctly. There is a dial tone, but when you > press a number nothing happens and you still have the dial tone when > you release the number. This happens on three phones and not on more > recent phones. It seems quite unlikely to me that three phones would > suffer identical simultaneous failures, so my hypothesis is that > something has changed on the telco end. However, as you might guess, > the phone company (Bell Atlantic) is no help, saying that as long as > any phones work, they don't consider it a problem. > My question is: what could be making this happen? Where do I begin to > look for an answer? Many thanks in advance. Assuming that other TT phones (newer ones) work correctly, the telco has for some reason (probably accidentally) reversed your pair somewhere between your house and the switch. Older TT phones were polarity sensitive, newer ones are not. Try reversing the red (or blue) and the green (or blue/white) wires at the jack one of the non-working phones is connected to. If it now works, you have two solutions. easy) reverse the two wires coming into your house at the NIJ. hard) Convince hell atlantic that they reversed the wires and get them to put them back. Rich Greenberg Work: Rich.Greenberg atsign worldspan.com +1 770-563-6656 N6LRT Marietta, GA, USA Play: richgr atsign netcom.com +1 770-321-6507 Eastern time zone. 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Please request a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lwinson@bbs.cpcn.com (L. Winson) Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: 6 Apr 2000 01:46:22 GMT Organization: The PACSIBM SIG BBS > This is a question about POTS. All of a sudden, three identical vintage > 1983 touchtone telephones have stopped working properly at one > house. They work fine at other houses, and other phones work fine at > this house. Perhaps in some street re-wiring, the polarity was reversed. The older touch tone phones require strict polarity or the tones won't go out. Since more recent phones do work on his line, that may be the case. > The problem is that several weeks ago the phones stopped dialing, > after years of working correctly. There is a dial tone, but when you > press a number nothing happens and you still have the dial tone when > you release the number. This happens on three phones and not on more > recent phones. It seems quite unlikely to me that three phones would > suffer identical simultaneous failures, so my hypothesis is that > something has changed on the telco end. However, as you might guess, > the phone company (Bell Atlantic) is no help, saying that as long as > any phones work, they don't consider it a problem. > My question is: what could be making this happen? Where do I begin to > look for an answer? Many thanks in advance. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What may have happened is the phone > company quit providing touch tone service to the lines. They usually > do not do that, but if it comes to their attention that tone dial > phones are being used in a case where the fee for same is not being > paid, they reserve the right to remove the gizmo which listens to > and detects the tone dialing. Does the line still work correctly > with rotary dialing? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Brad Houser Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:47:01 -0700 Organization: Intel Corporation You could try reversing the tip and ring. I have seen this on some older phones. Brad Houser ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:50:16 +0000 (GMT) From: herber@dcdrjh.fnal.gov (Randolph J. Herber) Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory Another possibility is that the phone is polarity sensitive. Many of the early DTMF phones (including those from Western Electric) are polarity sensitive (tip and ring must be attached correctly). This proved to be such a maintenance problem that full wave bridge circuit were added to remove this characteristic. I still have a early WE 250 DTMF phone with that characteristic in service. Randolph J. Herber, herber@dcdrjh.fnal.gov, +1 630 840 2966, CD/CDFTF PK-149F, Mail Stop 318, Fermilab, Kirk & Pine Rds., PO Box 500, Batavia, IL 60510-0500, USA. (Speaking for myself and not for US, US DOE, FNAL nor URA.) (Product, trade, or service marks herein belong to their respective owners.) ------------------------------ From: Robert Wiegand Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:30:27 -0500 Organization: Motorola CIG Just a wild guess - perhaps ther was a drop in the voltage in your line. The old phones might be more sensitive to this than the new ones. Regards, Bob Wiegand wiegand@enteract.com ------------------------------ From: jata@aepiax.net (Julian Thomas) Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:32:28 GMT Probably the polarity on the line got reversed. Early TT phones were polarity sensitive; later ones more tolerant. If other (newer) TT phones work, try reversing the 2 wires in the old phones. Julian Thomas: jt . epix @ net http://home.epix.net/~jt remove letter a for email (or switch . and @) In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org WarpTech 2000: May 26-28 in Phoenix - plan NOW to attend! www.warptech.org -- -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -Request for Comments: 1925 IOOF ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing From: carr@falcon.si.com (carr_tom) Date: 6 Apr 2000 14:02:59 -0500 Organization: Smiths Industries He may be paying for touch tone, but someone swapped the red and green on his line. I once had certain jacks within a duplex that wouldn't work because of sloppy installation. If its the whole house, I would suspect something happened at the demark or at one of the bridging points between the house and the central office. I would first check that the touch tone phones don't work at all of the jacks in the house. If some of the jacks work, I would look for someone's amateur additions to outlets in the house. If none of the jacks work with touch tone, I would try swapping red and green at the demark. If swapping red and green doesn't work, it sounds like a service call. Thomas Peter Carr | I have a dream, ... carr_tom@si.com (Internet) | M L King Jr 08/28/63 616-241-8846 / 616-241-8745 FAX (Telephone) | Smiths Industries, MS 3D1; 3290 Patterson Ave SE; Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 ------------------------------ From: david@NOSPAMvoice-ware.com (David) Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:51:38 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Simple answer: Someone has reversed the polarity of the telephone line. The newer phones work because they have some extra components (a bridge rectifier) to permit the tone generator to work with either polarity. Older TT phones did not have this feature and only work with one polarity. Solution: Reverse the polarity of the incoming telephone pair as it comes into your house. David Goldman VoiceWare, Inc. david@voice-ware.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing From: James Carlson Date: 06 Apr 2000 08:53:08 -0400 I've seen that symptom when someone accidentally interchanges tip and ring -- Touch*Tone phones will answer and appear to work, but nothing at all happens when you press the buttons. (If you press the buttons and hear the Touch*Tone sounds, then this isn't the problem ...) James Carlson "PPP Design and Debugging" --- http://people.ne.mediaone.net/carlson/ppp ------------------------------ From: Robert McDonald Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 07:42:55 -0500 Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US I just wanted to let everyone know that the problem -- identified by about 10 respondents, to whom I am grateful -- was that older touch-tone phones are sensitive to polarity. The suggested fix, which worked, was to reverse the red and green lines where they enter the house. The phone company must have reversed the polarity on the line a few weeks ago, probably while repairing a line. Thanks to everyone for the prompt and extremely helpful answers! Bob r-mcdonald@nwu.edu ------------------------------ From: oldbear@arctos.com (The Old Bear) Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:14:47 -0500 Organization: The Arctos Group - http://www.arctos.com/arctos Because Bob notes that "other phones work fine at this house", my guess is that the telco has reversed (or corrected) the tip and ring on the line. If the tip and ring were reversed somewhere outside, and the house wiring previously had been reversed to cancel that out, when the telco discovered and fixed their plant, it would screw-up older tone dialling phones which are polarity sensitive. I'd suggest switching the tip and ring at the network interface where the house wiring is connnected to the telco (do it on the house wire side, of course) and see if that fixes the problem. I think the electronics in newer phones use a diode bridge or some such to allow them to ignore polarity -- which is probably a good idea, considering how many homeowner-installed RJ-11s likely are wired backwards. ------------------------------ From: Michael S. Berlant Organization: None Apparent Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 07:32:01 GMT It seems that somehow, intentionally or not, the polarity of your line got reversed. Back in the early days of DTMF, the phones were sensitive to the polarity of the line. In fact, polarity reversal was an accepted practice in those days to prevent dialing from extension phones in accessible places. You mention that other phones work fine on your line. They are probably newer and have a polarity guard on them that allows the dial pad to work in either polarity. The best way to correct your problem is to reverse the phone line at your house. The easiest place to do that is where the phone line comes into the house, since all of your jacks behave the same. Good luck. ------------------------------ From: John_David_Galt@acm.org Organization: Association for Computing Machinery Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 07:46:49 GMT > The problem is that several weeks ago the phones stopped dialing, > after years of working correctly. There is a dial tone, but when you > press a number nothing happens and you still have the dial tone when > you release the number. This happens on three phones and not on more > recent phones. I think that blows away the theory that you no longer have touch tone service. I've seen old tone phones behave the same way when connected with the polarity reversed. Back when Ma Bell owned the phones and installed them for you, they didn't bother putting in the couple of extra diodes to make them work either way; so you may need to swap the red and green wires at each jack (or in the phones themselves) to get them to work. This can be a frustrating problem because many modern wiring gadgets (for example, 2-into-1 connector plugs) reverse the polarity of phones plugged into them, causing this problem to appear or disappear. But having it spontaneously happen to three phones at once sounds like the polarity was swapped outside your house. Perhaps a cable broke in your neighborhood and was reconnected the other way (this happened to me not long ago), or maybe an installer switched you to a different pair to hook up a new line for someone else (which would make sense if your old pair extended down the street far enough to reach the newcomer, and your new pair doesn't). John David Galt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 03:34:42 -0700 From: Joseph Singer Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing In his note he says that only the "vintage" 1983 (ha!) phones all of a sudden did not want to break dial tone while others do work. If they are older phones especially with the mechanical DTMF touch pads these pads only worked when the polarity is one way and the one way that the telco has arranged. My guess is somehow the tip and ring on that line got somehow reversed so that attempts to call out with those phones would not work. If you on the phones that don't break dial tone press keys if you listen closely you may hear faint "hints" of the different tones that would normal be emitted. What happened in this case? My guess is that telco unbeknownst to him had reversed tip and ring on his particular cable. The other DTMF phones on the line in most likelihood had "polarity guard" which allows you to use DTMF on either the tip or ring side of the line. I ran into this same problem myself just two days ago when I purchased a used 1982 WECO Princess phone from Goodwill. If you pressed the keys it wouldn't break dial tone. However if you switched the red and green leads (tip and ring) it would work like a champ. Another way to tell if your line is wired properly i.e. tip where tip should be and ring where ring should be is to buy a line tester at your Radio Shack or building supply store (Home Depot, Lowe's etc.) and check the line. This device has LEDs that will light a certain way if the line is wired properly. If you get an error when you test the line you have good reason to call telco and tell them that your line has been reversed. Just to be doubly sure so you won't be billed by telco for the service you might want to plug the tester into the network interface for your dwelling and take the reading from there. In the alternative if you need to fix the jacks for any locations where you have these "vintage" phones just undo the jack and reverse the red and green terminals on those connections. I hope that helps. It's my best guess at what's happening. Also, I seem to recall that the modern digital switching used in Lucent 5E and Nortel DMS-100 switches all the lines are provisioned for DTMF and must be "unprovisioned" in order to deny DTMF service otherwise it's standard for each station. Joseph Singer "thefoneguy" PO Box 23135, Seattle WA 98102 USA +1 206 405 2052 [voice mail] +1 206 493 0706 [FAX] ------------------------------ From: Bill Ranck Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: 6 Apr 2000 12:33:06 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia, USA Maybe somebody moved your line to a new pair or new frame location at the CO and flipped the two wires by accident. Try reversing the red and green wires in one of your phone jacks to see if that clears up the problem. If so, put them back, and reverse the two wires where they come into the house. ***************************************************************************** * Bill Ranck +1-540-231-3951 ranck@vt.edu * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University, Computing Center * ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 05:41:13 -0400 From: jbeckett Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Pat's theory may not hold because you said newer phones still work. Here's another stab at it, from someone who is red-green colorblind: You didn't mention if you could hear the phones sending touch tones. If you can't, try reversing the tip/ring polarity (ie swap the green and red wires). Early 2500 sets didn't always have full-wave bridge rectifiers feeding the DTMF pad, and sometimes the rectifiers would fail but the phones would keep working with one polarity or the other. If this theory holds in your case, the "problem" is that somebody respliced or reterminated a cable somewhere - and got the polarity different this time. John Beckett, Associate Director of Information Systems Southern Adventist University - Collegedale, Tennessee USA jbeckett@southern.edu http://is.southern.edu/internet (423) 238-2701 FAX (423) 238-2431 ------------------------------ From: frank Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 05:50:49 -0700 Try reversing the line at the network interface. Older sets didnt have polarity guard in them. If other newer tt sets work on the same line them this may be your problem. ------------------------------ From: Dennis K Wong Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: 6 Apr 2000 07:25:20 GMT Organization: Simon Fraser University Robert McDonald wrote: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What may have happened is the phone > company quit providing touch tone service to the lines. They usually > do not do that, but if it comes to their attention that tone dial > phones are being used in a case where the fee for same is not being > paid, they reserve the right to remove the gizmo which listens to > and detects the tone dialing. Does the line still work correctly > with rotary dialing? PAT] This is the year 2000! Isn't tone dialing a standard feature on all telephone lines? I thought all the new digital switching equipment use tone dialing? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No it it a standard feature. Rotary dialing is still quite common in many places. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Michael Muderick Subject: Phones Stop Working Date: Thu, 6 Apr 100 12:02:35 EDT I had phones stop working. What happened was that a cable was replaced and the wiremen didn't pay attention to polarity. I could have changed it myself, but insisted that they solve the problem. I even told them how. It took about a week and a half to get it right. One guy changed it on my pole and then another guy changed it at the CO. Effect: no change. they finally got it right. Newer phones are not polarity sensitive. Older Western or ATT phones are. Mike Muderick ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #54 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Fri Apr 7 01:02:04 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA17626; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:02:04 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004070502.BAA17626@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #55 TELECOM Digest Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:02:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 55 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Bill Garfield) Those White House Phone Records (Randy Hayes) Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing (Steve Uhrig) Re: Bounced Mail Gets Me in Trouble (Joey Lindstrom) Yahoo! 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wdg@hal-pc.org (Bill Garfield) Subject: Telemarketer Stopper that works Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:46:50 -0500 Organization: You only wish you were this organized Not quite a year ago I sent an email to Mike Sandman "Chicago's Telecom Expert" asking if among his many wares he had anything that could send "S.I.T. tone". His reply was no, but after I explained what I was looking for Mike agreed that there could be a market for something like that. My idea was to find something that was line powered and could be triggered by the phone simply going off-hook to answer an incoming call. I had long known the utility of SIT tone in being able to "convince" the automated predictive dialers that they had dialed an out of service number and get them to go away. I even had SIT tone recorded as the lead-in to the greeting on my answering machine. For those who don't know, SIT tone is that "Baaa-Booo-Beee" series of tones you hear when you dial an out of service number. The response to SIT tone by the automatic dialing equipment is to take your number out of the queue AND NOT CALL BACK!!!! The predictive dialers are designed to call the maximum amount of "good numbers" and so SIT tone helps them sort good numbers from bad. Well, I'm all for helping them. ;^) The answering machine trick worked pretty well, but I wanted to be able to send SIT tone immediately, just by picking up the receiver. What I was finding was that some of the predictive dialers had gotten smart and would frequently abort calls before the 6 rings it took for my machine to answer with its clever "Baaa-Booo-Beeee" message. Well, in response to my inquiry Mike Sandman has done it. His latest little black box, called the "Telemarketer Stopper" does exactly what I was needing and is line powered. Best of all it's reasonably inexpensive at $25.95. (in lots of 3 or more they're $24.95 each) The unit has two RJ11 jacks and so can be placed inline with any phone or answering machine or you can install the unit at the common entry point in line with all your phones and any one of them going off hook to ANSWER an incoming call will trigger the tone. It will not send SIT tone when originating calls and you can even PROGRAM IT to respond to a touchtone digit instead of a switchook transition in response to an incoming ring. It's LITTLE too. Approx 2 x 1 x 1 (inches) See it at http://www.sandman.com/tmstop.html Someone, perhaps Pat Townson had once mentioned that Mike Sandman was always looking for good ideas and since he stuck out his neck to build it I thought the least I could do as a way of saying thanks was to spread the word in the newsgroups. Thanks Mike! [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And the least the rest of you can do is buy one or two if you want to get rid of pesky telemarketers. Click on Mikes's banner at http://telecom-digest.org/sponsorlinks.html or just go directly to his web site at http://sandman.com ...tell Mike you read about his device here in the Digest. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:14:34 -0500 From: Randy Hayes Subject: Those White House Phone Records With officials indicating they cannot track long distance calls, I wonder how they would respond to the story printed in TELECOM Digest, Reuters, and other locations regarding the Sergeant assigned to the White House Communications Agency who was arrested for giving out a long distance authorization code supposedly for the White House? Did that auth code not give them the ability to document the 9,400 calls "worth $50,000 to the federal government?" Otherwise, how did they track the calls? In addition, most call accounting systems attached to PBXs can provide the originating extension number, even if auth codes are used to actually track the LD usage ... Combine the two stories, and one's got more holes than Swiss cheese! Randal J. Hayes randal.hayes@uni.edu ------------------------------ From: Steve Uhrig Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:50:53 -0400 Organization: bright.net Ohio Since these are older phones the DTMF pad may be polarity sensitive. The phone company may have reversed the polarity of your line while doing some work in the area. Try reversing the wires at the jack or outside at the phone company NID and see if these phones start working again. ------------------------------ From: Joey Lindstrom Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:17:12 -0600 Reply-To: Joey Lindstrom Subject: Re: Bounced Mail Gets Me in Troublr Could this be the problem? On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:09:10 -0400 (EDT), editor@telecom-digest.org wrote: > Please read the letter attached. This person persists in asking me > to add him to the mailing list, yet look at how attempts to mail > him are bouncing. Any suggestions? > Here is the most recent bounce, then several letters from him. > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to norman.cp10.es.xerox.com.: >>>> RCPT To: ><<< 550 ... User unknown >550 ... User unknown ^^^^^^ >Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:19:22 -0800 >To: subscriptions@telecom-digest.org, editor@telecom-digest.org, > ptownson@telecom-digest.org >From: Paul Gloger >Subject: Subscribe me to Telecom Digest already please ... >Cc: Paul Gloger ^^^^^^^ You're sending to "ploger", but he's sending from "pgloger". / From the messy desktop of Joey Lindstrom / Visit The NuServer! http://www.GaryNumanFan.NU / Visit The Webb! http://webb.GaryNumanFan.NU / / "Don't shake hands with strangers." / --Everything I Need To Know I Learned From Babylon 5 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: More about this fiasco later in this issue. Keep reading. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Yahoo! News Subject: Yahoo! News Story - How To Choose a Cell Phone Service Mike Pollock (itsamike@yahoo.com) has sent you a news article By BRUCE MEYERSON AP Business Writer Q: With so many options in cellular and long distance, including cross-promotions and tie-ins with other services like Web access, what's the best way to comparison shop? How To Choose a Cell Phone Service http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20000405/tc/good_question__2.html Yahoo! News http://dailynews.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:46:56 +0530 From: Krishna Prasad Organization: TeleSoft Subject: Priority Routing in Telecom Switches Hello, Can you help in finding out a way to put quiries in user group. I would like to know details about "Priority Routing " in telecom switches. Thanks, Arun ------------------------------ From: Jonathan Seder Subject: Re: Caller ID When I Tried Calling About the Census Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:05:28 -0700 Organization: Don't Spam Me! > ... So I called the toll-free number from > my office, reached an automated system, and during that call it read > back the number I was supposedly calling from! Contrary to some popular notions, even if you block Caller ID, your information is always given out when you call a toll-free number. They're paying for the call. > It turns out the number it read back was not my office number, > but the same number that shows up on bills for calling card calls > from my office. Apparently your office phone system has outgoing trunks distinct from the incoming trunks. It was, naturally, the outgoing trunk's number that was reported. ------------------------------ From: Barry Margolin Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Organization: GTE Internetworking, Cambridge, MA Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:25:10 GMT In article , Fred Goldstein wrote: > The contest is over. So far as I can tell, no Digest readers have won. > Ditching years of brand equity built up in the shared "Bell" trademark > which it acquired when it was spun off of AT&T, Bell Titanic's branding > company (anybody know which one they used?) came up with the toe-tapping > "Verizon". (At least it doesn't end in -ent! To think that Agilent > actually *paid* for that name.) From what I can tell, "Verizon" is a > shortened form of the portmanteau "Verizontal", from "we control the > vertical, we control the horizontal". Perhaps. However, they seem to be trying to avoid that connotation. The name is supposed to be pronounced to rhyme with "horizon". BTW, if you try to go to www.verizon.com, you'll get one of NSI's generic "Under construction" pages. So they reserved the domain name about a month ago, but I guess they're waiting for the FCC to approve the merger before they bother pointing it to a server with real content. Disclaimer: Although I work for what is currently still a subsidiary of GTE, I have no involvement with the telco side of the company and no knowledge of the actual genesis of the new Verizon name other than what they have announced to the public. Barry Margolin, barmar@genuity.com Genuity, Burlington, MA *** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups. Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group. ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: Those White House Phone Records Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 03:19:30 -0400 Charles B. Wilber wrote: > Some of us still recall the vigorously suppressed scandal that > occurred shortly after the Clinton bunch took up residence in the > White House. As one of his first official actions, Clinton purchased a > brand new PBX for the White House. It was scandalous becuase the > contract was gratuitously awarded with no pretense of putting it out > to bid. I don't recall which vendor received the contract but I cannot > believe that a PBX purchased new in 1992 would not easily accommodate > CDR (SMDR) collection and archiving." That was an AT&T system. I remember one embittered Democrat complaining on CompuServe, during the 1992 campaign, that the White House still had an old key system dating back to the Nixon Administration and that that somehow proved that President Bush was somehow incompetent. What this guy didn't realize was that the White House civilian phone system (which I don't doubt included both a *large* PBX and various 1A2 key systems behind it) was custom-designed for the White House Communications Agency and, being good old Western Electric hardware, was darn near bulletproof (and I'll bet they had some electromagnetic pulse protection in there too). ------------------------------ From: Jack Hamilton Subject: Re: Those White House Phone Records Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:48:35 -0700 Organization: Copyright (c) 2000 by Jack Hamilton. Reply-To: jfh@acm.org Charles.B.Wilber@Dartmouth.EDU (Charles B. Wilber) wrote: > --- You wrote: >> Does anyone besides me have a hard time believing White House counsel >> Beth Nolan when she makes this statement regarding call detail records >> to Congressional investigators? > That is not just difficult to believe ... it is impossible to > believe. Some of us still recall the vigorously suppressed scandal > that occurred shortly after the Clinton bunch took up residence in the > White House. As one of his first official actions, Clinton purchased a > brand new PBX for the White House. It was scandalous becuase the > contract was gratuitously awarded with no pretense of putting it out > to bid. I don't recall which vendor received the contract but I cannot > believe that a PBX purchased new in 1992 would not easily accommodate > CDR (SMDR) collection and archiving. It is simply not believable that > these records are not generated and stored. Why not? If you were President Clinton, would you have installed a system that kept records of all your calls? Probably not -- those records could only lead to trouble. Jack Hamilton Broderick, CA jfh@acm.org ------------------------------ From: Someone Subject: Re: Those White House Phone Records Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:36:02 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Charles B. Wilber wrote in message news:telecom20.52.13@telecom-digest.org ... > Some of us still recall the vigorously suppressed scandal > that occurred shortly after the Clinton bunch took up residence in the > White House. Yeah, the black helicopters spirited the records away after Vince Foster was murdered. ------------------------------ From: alonklein@my-deja.com Subject: IS41 Documentation Request Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 09:20:49 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Hi all, I'm looking for documentation of the ANSI IS41 protocol. If any of you know where I can take it from, please send me the URL or the file itself. Thanks a lot, Alon ------------------------------ From: herb@herbstein.com (Herb Stein) Subject: Re: Erlang Equations? Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:23:19 GMT There is a book entitled _Engineering and Operations in the Bell System_ that discusses Erlang B and Erlang C. Hopefully an Australian technical library would have a copy. One more reference. _Telecommunications Transmission Engineering_, Volume 3, Networks and Services also talks about Erlangs. It's one of a 3 volume set published by AT&T in the 1970's. In article , Watch Meister wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good place to find detailed 'Erlang' equations. > I am interested in a number of models including: > Erlang B > Erlang C > Engset > Binomial Herb Stein The Herb Stein Group www.herbstein.com herb@herbstein.com 314 215-3584 ------------------------------ From: Frank Subject: Dial Tone Timer? Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 05:55:34 -0700 Anyone know of a device that will disconnect dial tone to a modem at a time determined by me? A line in and line out with a timer to set the time of day the line will be dead. Thanks, Frank. ------------------------------ From: world!fybush@uunet.uu.net (Scott D. Fybush) Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:09:58 GMT Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Fred Goldstein writes: > actually *paid* for that name.) From what I can tell, "Verizon" is a > shortened form of the portmanteau "Verizontal", from "we control the > vertical, we control the horizontal". Maybe it's an allusion, then, to > "the Outer Limits of Telecommunications". The newspaper articles yesterday said it's a combination of "veritas" (truth) and "horizon," and meant to be pronounced to rhyme with "horizon." The articles also suggested that one of the conditions of the merger was that the word "Bell" not appear in the new name. Quoth some high-ranking Verizon official whose name I've forgotten already: "We couldn't get there [i.e., beyond the image of voice telephony] with 'Bell'." Must be a good deal for sign companies up this way; it was just three months ago that all the "Frontier Cellular" signage came down as BA bought out the other half of that partnership. Now all that brand-new "Bell Atlantic Mobile" signage (including one new store in Brighton that NEVER EVEN OPENED under that name) will be expensive junk. As a consumer, my bias is towards the company that's been doing this for 100+ years over the brand-new upstart -- but how can I tell them apart when the old-line business is now "Verizon"? ------------------------------ From: Xegf@ultranet.com (Ed Fortmiller) Subject: Re: Pre-paid Calling Cards Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:29:16 -0400 I'm using BigZoo http://www.bigzoo.com 3.9 cents per minute and no additional fees, mins, etc. 55 cent surcharge from payphones though. Only complaint thus far is that I can get busy signals in the evenings. No problem with billing in the four months I've been using it. Referred some friends and they are quite happy with the service. Ed Fortmiller | egf@ultranet.com | Hudson MA * To avoid getting a lot of SPAM junk mail, I have altered my REPLY-TO * address. PLEASE remove the leading "X" from my REPLY address. ------------------------------ From: Paul Wills Subject: Last Laugh! Re: Bounced Mail Gets Me in Trouble Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:41:01 -0400 Pat, It's amazing how many mistakes we refuse to see when we *believe* we're right. It appears that the address you are sending to is missing a "g." Wrong address: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- Right address: pgloger@cp10.es.xerox.com ^ I do that all the time. It always takes an independent observer to find the "bug." By the way, The Telephone Collectors International URL has changed to www.singingwires.org. If you could change it on your links page and pass it on to Dave Massey, it would be most appreciated. Regards, Paul Wills [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am reminded of a situation from when I was in high school, and had my first job which was working for the University of Chicago as a phone operator. The overnight operator had a job known as 'night auditor' which required that operator to tally up all the long distance calls from the day before, post them in a ledger book for each extension, use an adding machine (this was 1958, after all) to add the tickets for the day, add up all the ledger entries and hopefully balance them to each other. I came in to work days at about 7 in the morning, and Lois, at the time the overnight operator was sitting at a desk looking sort of perplexed. She said she had been trying since about 4 AM to balance the ledger for the night before without success. She said, "when it got to be about 6 AM the board started getting busy again, so I had to stop on it". I asked her to let me try it, and she was glad to have a fresh pair of eyes look. Almost immediatly I found the error: a long distance call for $2.89 had been entered on the ledger of extension numbers as $2.98, which was the nine cents she was off. She made the correction, and went home happy, although about an hour later than usual. "I felt like such a fool", she said to me later. A fresh, unbiased pair of eyes can work wonders. That's what you get for having a moderator/editor here who had an aneurism a few months ago. My brains are scrambled much of the time these days, and after a 'long day' -- for me, a 'long day' is more than 3-4 hours at the computer -- I grow crabby and very difficult to work with. At least a dozen of you told me about PLOGER vrs. PGLOGER. I hope Mr. PGLOGER is as understanding. I will adjust your entry in the links, and advise David Massey to do the same in Telephone Tribute. (http://telecom-digest.org/tribute) PAT] ------------------------------ From: Hahn, Ki Suk Subject: Still Laughing! Re: Bounced Mail Gets Me in Trouble Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:24:01 -0500 Stop me if you've heard this one before ... About the bounced emails to the Xerox guy, I think the problem is that you missed a 'g' in his email address. The bounced ones refer to a ploger@... while his emails have pgloger@... Ki Suk [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have heard that one at least a dozen times before, but it is just as funny (NOT) as the first time. Don't ever become a chain smoker of Pall Mall cigarettes and wind up with an aneurism of your own. I started smoking when I was 13 (now I am 57 so you do the math) originally because a teacher I had in high school -- a guy named Arthur Erickson -- smoked Viceroys and I wanted to be as witty, sophisticated and good-looking as he was. I switched to Pall Mall (the straight ones with no filters) three years later when I was 16 because the fellow who at the time was night operator at University of Chicago always smoked them and I admired how nimble he was with his fingers in plugging those cords in and pulling them out, all the while with one of his cigarettes dangling out of his lips. When I write my autobiography sometime soon, I intend to tell a few facts like the above about myself. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Robert Allender Subject: ROFLMOA: Re: Bounced Mail Gets me in Trouble Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:21:55 +0800 Pat: Why are you sending his mail to ploger@ ... when his address is pgloger@ ... (see the additional 'g' there?). Warm regards, Robert [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Again. Mr. PGLOGER, I hope you will forgive me. You are now on the mailing list, and all should be okay. Once I get this issue of the Digest finished, I intend to step outside and have another cigarette. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #55 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Sat Apr 8 00:19:33 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA00951; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:19:33 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004080419.AAA00951@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #56 b TELECOM Digest Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:19:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 56 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. 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Current focus: P - Roll-out of new toll free codes 866 and 855 is delayed SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1186 P - SNAC to address SMS/800 performance problems; new SMS/800 software release reviewed >> NEW << SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1407 P - INC AUDIT WORKSHOP ACTIVITY TO DATE >> NEW << SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1405 P - ICANN seeks public comment on Famous Marks and gTLDs >> NEW << SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1393 P - Vapor-constituency: ICANN At Large Membership ... 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Yea, like Capitol Hill isn't important to [American] peoples daily lives. Its no surprise that Dyson chairs ICANN public forums with a mix of impatience, condescension and disgust. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1404 P - WIPO DISSES NAF "... In a number of the decisions of Administrative Panels appointed by the National Arbitration Foundation, cancellation has been ordered. In none of those decisions, however, was a rationale given for this remedy over the remedy of transfer to the Complainant." CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1401 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< 800 & Domain Name Acquisition Management, Lost/Stolen 800 # Retrieval, Litigation Support, Regulatory Navigation, Correlating Domain Name & Trademark Matters. When success is the only option. >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 6, 2000 P - SMS/800 SYSTEM PERFORMANCE WORK-IN-PROGRESS Task forces to address SMS/800 system performance deficiencies; new SMS/800 software release discussed. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1407 F - USPS ADOPTS NEW SWEEPSTAKES MAILING ELIGIBILITY RULES Tuesday it published the series of rules it adopted to implement the Deceptive Mail Prevention and Enforcement Act (DMPEA). CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1396 F - NET2PHONE PART OF NEW NETSCAPE BROWSER A button on Netscape's personal toolbar is prime real estate. 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All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: scsmediafmp@aol.com (Steven Scharf) Date: 06 Apr 2000 03:08:59 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" They actually tried that in New York by using NYNEX. They burned that name and thus being bought by Bell Atlantic was seen as the good company taking over the bad. They have now soiled the Bell Atlantic name and are moving on to a new one. I used to rent office space to small companies in New York City where we provided phone services through another provider. I took great pains to refer to them as NYNEX long after Bell Atlantic had changed the names becuase it made a great selling point that they could give up BA/NYNEX's poor service and support. Steven Scharf SCS Media Services 57 East 11th Street, 9th Floor New York, New York 10003 212-822-8555 SCSMedia@aol.com nospam.tonypo1@nospam.home.com (Tony Pelliccio) responded: > To some Bell means voice, to others of us it has a whole different > meaning. It brings up memories of a phone company that just doesn't > care. I think a more appropriate choice of names for Bell Atlantic > would be to simply change the name to Hell Atlantic. It says > everything about BA that needs to be said and most people alread > know them by that name anyhow. > Verizon? I suppose Veriphone was already taken, or that they just > couldn't buy it. > Tony Pelliccio, KD1S formerly KD1NR > Trustee WE1RD ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Date: 6 Apr 2000 03:36:42 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Tony Pelliccio': > To some Bell means voice, to others of us it has a whole different > meaning. It brings up memories of a phone company that just doesn't care. > I think a more appropriate choice of names for Bell Atlantic would be to > simply change the name to Hell Atlantic. It says everything about BA that > needs to be said and most people alread know them by that name anyhow. Keep in mind, though, that the wireless divisions of the ILECs are typically much better at serving their customers than the wireline divisions. I saw fewer complaints about Bell Atlantic Mobile than Sprint PCS or AT&T, and in general didn't hear much negative about them at all, over on alt.cellular. Judging from that, and the fact that people there tend to be pretty close followers of the industry, I concluded that BAM was probably one of the better companies out there. I've heard many good things about them. My personal experience with the cellular division of another ILEC - GTE Wireless - has been stellar. I've been a customer since 1993, and have been pleased with the service and the equipment, from my original phone - an Oki 1325 that ran on GTE's TeleGo service and served as a cordless phone at home and a cellular away from home - to my current Motorola StarTAC digital phone that is activated on one of GTE's national calling plans. Do keep in mind that the changes aren't over yet. GTE Wireless will be going away in many markets where they compete with Bell Atlantic Mobile, Primeco, or Airtouch (the companies that merged to form Verizon) - to clear the way for the GTE/Bell Atlantic merger. Those markets will be sold to Alltel. Cleveland is one of those markets - GTE and AirTouch are both 800MHz CDMA carriers here. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I've heard some rather unflattering things about Alltel, but some other people tell me that they will bend over backwards to keep customers. I hope that is true. Pundits over in alt.cellular say that a probable side effect of the mergers is the transfer of many smaller markets from small cellular operators to one of the big companies. North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: dalgoda@ix.netcom.net (Mike Castle) Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Organization: House of Linux Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:38:57 -0500 In article , Tony Pelliccio wrote: > Verizon? I suppose Veriphone was already taken, or that they just > couldn't buy it. Well, VeriFone is a pretty big company. Many (most?) credit card boxes around are made by VeriFone (pay attention next time you're shopping, especially if the box is like a 4"x4" square and gray). mrc Mike Castle Life is like a clock: You can work constantly dalgoda@ix.netcom.com and be right all the time, or not work at all www.netcom.com/~dalgoda/ and be right at least twice a day. -- mrc We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan. -- Watchmen ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Caller ID When I Tried Calling About the Census Date: 6 Apr 2000 03:37:40 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Carl Moore': > I made a couple of calls to offices for census 2000 and was told of a > toll-free number I could call. So I called the toll-free number from > my office, reached an automated system, and during that call it read > back the number I was supposedly calling from! It turns out the > number it read back was not my office number, but the same number that > shows up on bills for calling card calls from my office. Did you have a direct line out, or does your office have a PBX or Centrex-type system? North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Date: 6 Apr 2000 03:39:34 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Fred Goldstein': > "the Outer Limits of Telecommunications". Or perhaps, given their > newly-fattened mobile empire (a JV with Vodaphone Airtouch), they are > worrying about vertical towers blown over by a storm into a horizontal > position. I can't wait for the artwork. One can imagine all sorts of > other images around "horizontal". But then it's hard to understand the > kind of creative minds (and I use that term loosely) work in those > brand-name consultancies. They appear to have a logo, although not much content, at: http://www.VerizonWireless.com North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: langlo6@ibm.net Subject: Re: Grammar to Play Prerecorded Voice Prompts Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:38:55 GMT Organization: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News Services On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:14:33 -0400, Balaji Sundara wrote: > I am looking for resources which describe the following: > For example: > I need to play 1200.56 (a currency amount) in let's say American English > 1. I have pre-recorded prompts for > one > thousand > two > hundred > fifty > six > dollars > cents > and > 2. If I wanted my application to play the amount in American English > it would dynamically (based on rules) say > "one thousand two hundred dollars and fifty six cents" > > I want to find out if there is a standard grammar to describe this in > English and other languages. Don't know if this is any help, but my bank (Bank of Montreal) uses such a system when I pay by bills by telephone. The normal sequence of events in the bill payment process is: 1. use the touchpad to select the account I want to pay (up to 6 accounts are selectable. If more than 6 are registered, pressing "9" takes me to the next 6, etc.) 2. enter the amount I want to pay using the touchpad. 3. the system repeats back to me the amount I want to pay. 4. I press a key to agree to payment. The system always replies using a dollar/cent format you describe. Regards, David Langlois Ottawa, Canada ------------------------------ Reply-To: Phone Tech From: Phone Tech Subject: Re: Erlang Equations? Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:36:13 +0800 Hi, The best source I have seen by far is at http://www.iinet.net/~clark The Equations document available from there has all you need and more. Some texts just show (eg) the equation for the distribution or the probability function. If that is all you need - OK. But if you want to go further and calculate queue sizes, delay probabilities, required agents etc., this has it all. Hope this helps. Watch Meister wrote in message news:telecom20.51.6@telecom-digest.org... > Hi, > > Can anyone recommend a good place to find detailed 'Erlang' equations. I > am interested in a number of models including: > Erlang B > Erlang C > Engset > Binomial > Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:17:46 PDT From: Mike Pollock Subject: Looking for Porn? Ask Chad Porn sites are taking unwitting Internet surfers on an expensive ride to the African nation of Chad. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/pornsites_000407.html ------------------------------ From: Philip Tait Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper that works Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:33:20 -0700 Organization: Honeywell - Phoenix, AZ Bill Garfield wrote: > Well, in response to my inquiry Mike Sandman has done it. His latest > little black box, called the "Telemarketer Stopper" does exactly what > I was needing and is line powered. Best of all it's reasonably > inexpensive at $25.95. (in lots of 3 or more they're $24.95 each) The price went up since you last checked: $34.95 Philip J. Tait.....Honeywell, Phoenix, Az.....pjt@phxase.allied.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #56 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Sat Apr 8 20:50:03 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA07128; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004090050.UAA07128@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #57 TELECOM Digest Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:50:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 57 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 4/7 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Telemarketer Stopper that works (Michael Will) Re: Telemarketer Stopper that works (W.D. 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Current focus: [Updated] P - SNAC to address SMS/800 performance problems; new SMS/800 software release reviewed SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1407 P - INC AUDIT WORKSHOP ACTIVITY TO DATE SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1405 P - ICANN seeks public comment on Famous Marks and gTLDs SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1393 [Pending] P - Roll-out of new toll free codes 866 and 855 is delayed SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1186 P - Vapor-constituency: ICANN At Large Membership ... SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1224 P - ICANN called on the carpet by the three Regional Internet Registries SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1134 F - Do No Harm: Reform the Domain Dispute System SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1294 F - CyberHQ - THE NEW IMPERIALISM SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=558 ************************************************************************* THINKING OUT LOUD ... According to "How Many Domain Names Do People Register?" (see .COM MISCELLANY: Domain Name Trivia, http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1410) fewer than 1% of domain name registrants purchase "cybersquatter"-level quantities of domain names. We know that many of those high-volume registrants in that fewer-than-1% category, are trademark-owning large corporations. Which means the career "cybersquatter" element so hysterically, repeatedly denounced by trademark owners in the press and to Congress and ICANN, is a mere fraction of that fewer-than-1% of people purchasing domain names. Ergo, is the trademark lobby not getting far too much policy attention and preference, relative to this truly insignificant sliver of potential conflict, which it can well afford at that, to defend? Me thinks they dost protest too much ... and policy, protect too much ... ************************************************************************* HEADLINES FOR APRIL 7, 2000 F - CYBERSPACE: CORPORATE ID NEEDED? A proposal moving through the U.S. House of Representatives could make it illegal to use information that used to flow freely, by restricting how information about the world can be collected and stored in databases, such as a phone book. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1408 F - DOMAIN NAME TRIVIA The average domain length in 1999 was 11 characters ... The average income of domain name purchasers is $35,000-75,000 ... CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1410 F - TELSURF PARTNERS FOR CANADIAN PENETRATION DapaSoft will take an equity position in TelSurf Networks and become TelSurf's hosting partner for 888-TelSurf in Canada. DapaSoft will also represent TelSurf in the Canadian business-to-business audio-browser market segment in Canada, promoting TelSurf Networks' Application Service Provider (ASP) offering, TelService(TM), to companies throughout the country. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1412 F - JACKPOT GTLD: .TV? This isn't the first time Tuvalu has tried to profit from its technological resources. In the 1990s, it struck a deal to let a Hong Kong company use some of its phone numbers for a 900-number business. But officials in the Christian nation moved to cancel the $1.2-million-a-year contract after they discovered that the numbers were being used for phone sex lines. Hmmm, there's no sex on the internet ... CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1414 ************************************************************************* >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< 800 & Domain Name Acquisition Management, Lost/Stolen 800 # Retrieval, Litigation Support, Regulatory Navigation, Correlating Domain Name & Trademark Matters. When success is the only option. >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< ************************************************************************* more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 7, 2000 P - DOT COM INDEX PROFILES US INTERNET GROWTH San Francisco Metro area holds onto its lead as the hot bed of the Internet, ranking first in Metro areas on a per capita basis. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1409 F - IN SPAIN, CYBERHQ RULES The Development Ministry will become the new authority on domain name registration, coordinating the process with Spain's Trade Registry and the Spanish Patent and Trademark Office. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1411 P - COMMERCE EXTENDS COMMENTS PERIOD ... regarding domain disputes involving personal names … CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1413 P - FCC OPENING MEETING CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1415 **************************************************advertisements********* Haven't time to search? Get targeted telecom news every week from the source. Put 'subscribe Pipe' in the subject line and reply to: telecom_e_clips@hotmail.com. ************************************************************************* Do a friend a favor - suggest ICB ... 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Go to http://www.thehungersite.com ************************************************************************* Only subscribers or registered users of ICB Toll Free News web site will be able to access all or some of the full text of URLs provided. ************************************************************************* Copyright 2000 ICB, Inc. All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Michael Will Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 14:29:49 GMT Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay Bill Garfield wrote: > The unit has two RJ11 jacks and so can be placed inline with any phone > or answering machine or you can install the unit at the common entry > point in line with all your phones and any one of them going off hook > to ANSWER an incoming call will trigger the tone. Am I wrong, or are these telemarketers missing the concept? Wouldn't a smart one (oxymoron?) only check for SIT prior to supervision? Michael ------------------------------ From: wdg@hal-pc.org Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 09:39:23 -0500 Organization: You only wish you were this organized On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:33:20 -0700, in comp.dcom.telecom Philip Tait wrote: > The price went up since you last checked: $34.95 Interesting. You're right, the web page has it listed now at $34.95 (+S&H). However, in their latest catalog (received it this past Wednesday) it is listed there at $25.95, 3 @ 24.95 and 10 @ 23.50. Also the invoice accompanying the shipment (dated 04/03/00) has 'em at this price. If the price has gone up, then the increase must have occurred this week. I would call them (they don't appear to sell over the Net anyway) and get confirmation. (1-630-980-7710) But you know, even at $34.95, or for that matter $44.95, I would buy one because the bottom line is the thing works. I have yet to set a ceiling price that I would call "too much to pay" for -any- product that is so effective in getting rid of the dang telemarketers. S.I.T. tone seems to be "the magic bullet" however you can get it, whether you record it on your answering machine greeting or you buy Mike's gizmo and attach it to your phone(s). In our case, we took back control of our lives with the 'answering machine plus S.I.T. trick' (before Mike Sandman had the Telemarketer Stopper available). The approach was to record SIT tone ahead of the greeting and set the 'machine' to answer on first ring between 5 & 8 pm. However, as anyone else who has done it can attest, getting SIT tone recorded on the machine was in itself a chore, so Mike's gizmo would certainly have been the preferred method. ------------------------------ From: John Nagle Organization: Animats Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:45:25 -0700 Bill Garfield wrote: .... > I had long known the utility of SIT tone in being able to "convince" > the automated predictive dialers that they had dialed an out of > service number and get them to go away. I even had SIT tone recorded > as the lead-in to the greeting on my answering machine. Just don't answer "Hello". Predictive dialers distinguish answering machines from live callers by whether they say something that sounds roughly like "Hello". If you answer with your name, most predictive dialers will hang up. This is for real. See the spec sheet for a popular predictive dialer at http://www.simplesimon.com/Files/CobraSpec6.pdf John Nagle ------------------------------ From: Carl Knoblock Organization: Apple II Forever Subject: Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 07:24:00 GMT Administrator wrote: > Do you happen to have a working database for the area codes in > relation to their zip codes? One in Access or CGI scripting (or any > other format for that matter) would be great. Since Area codes and Zip codes serve totally unrelated purposes, the only thing they have in common is geography. And except at state lines and major rivers, they rarely share the same border lines. So there would be a small but growing subset of Zip codes that would appear in two or more Numbering Plan Areas (The proper name for Area Codes.) Carl G. Knoblock Telephone Tech ------------------------------ From: Marcus AAkesson Subject: Re: CPP, ATM Surcharges Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 20:50:46 +0200 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology On Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:16:18 -0500, Fred Goldstein wrote: > CPP operates rather like a collect call. The rate is NOT set by the > caller's carrier, but by the called carrier. It is indeed > "bastardized" but that is exactly how collect calls have worked since > time immemorial, or at least since there has been competition. Thus > the caller's carrier has no say at all. Yes, it is silly. That is _not_ how it works in a competitive CPP environment. Every carrier negotiates his termination tariffs and bills his users based on that, in a multitude of different price structures. To call my mobile from my land-line, I can choose from 46 different price structures/operators where the cheapest is 51% under the most expensive. http://hem.passagen.se/rogue5/mobil.htm > In the USA, any old carrier, AOS or "information provider" is allowed > to pay LECs for billing services. That's how the 900-call business > works; again the originator's carrier has no say over the price. CPP > is very much like 900 service. The fact that the rest of the planet > uses it doesn't make it right, at least for the USA; I think for once > the USA got the right model (cellular subscriber pays for their own > convenience). This "convenience" always shows up in the CPP debate. What convenience? During a working day, I'm not playing golf, I'm working. If I'm not at the office, I'm out on an important meeting or such. If someone needs to reach me immediately, how is it my convenience? If it's not so important, he can leave a message at the office, or send an email. And, You also have a choice. If I want to make it easy to reach me, i just forward my office number to my mobile, and eat the charges. After hours, they can pay if they want me anyways. Marcus AAkesson marcus.akesson@NO_SPAM_PLEASE_home.se Gothenburg Callsigns: SM6XFN & SB4779 Sweden >>>>>> Keep the world clean - no HTML in news or mail ! <<<<<< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 20:13:30 -0400 From: Bill Horne Subject: Re: Priority Routing in Telecom Switches Organization: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News Services Krishna Prasad wrote: > Can you help in finding out a way to put quiries in user group. > I would like to know details about "Priority Routing " in telecom > switches. > Arun, They isn't any unless you look at Military switches. Civilian switches are equipped for *DIAL TONE* priority, which allows certain classes of line to get dial tone before others when there's a crunch, i.e., during "mass calling" events, but the civilian network is not, and never has been, equipped for priority routing. Once a customer dials a call, he falls into the same routing pool as every other user. This may not seem to apply to private networks, and some of the more exotic centrex classes, but even there the principle is the same: all users that have access to a given path have an equal shot at it. HTH. Bill Horne (Remove ".nouce" from address for direct replies. Sorry.) ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Date: 8 Apr 2000 15:41:42 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Mike Castle': > In article , > Tony Pelliccio wrote: >> Verizon? I suppose Veriphone was already taken, or that they just >> couldn't buy it. > Well, VeriFone is a pretty big company. Many (most?) credit card boxes > around are made by VeriFone (pay attention next time you're shopping, > especially if the box is like a 4"x4" square and gray). Not to mention which, VeriFone is getting pretty heavily involved in e-commerce too ... North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: tknab@nyx.net (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Organization: The Home Office Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:34:42 GMT Scott D. Fybush wrote: > As a consumer, my bias is towards the company that's been doing this > for 100+ years over the brand-new upstart -- but how can I tell > them apart when the old-line business is now "Verizon"? Ask those of us who had one of the Bells that became US Worst (er..West), or Ameritech, neither of which had the Bell Name in them. Terry E. Knab News/Acting System Administrator Nyx Public Access Unix ------------------------------ From: Jim Cheshire Subject: Protecting Ourselves ... Dialing Plan Configuration Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 22:59:57 GMT Organization: Global Online Japan I have searched the FAQs but could not find a listing on this topic. We want to configure our dialing plan in our phone system to prevent outbound calls being placed to NANP numbers that generate expensive toll calling. For example, I have heard that some NANP numbers in the Carribean operate like 900 numbers. When someone calls that number, they are billed additional charges above and beyond the normal LD rates. Is there a list of NPA/NXX exchanges that should be configured as restricted dialing destinations? Where can I find this information? Thanks, Jim Cheshire ------------------------------ From: Esan David Subject: Those White House Phone Records Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:02:11 -0400 Randy Hayes writes: > With officials indicating they cannot track long distance calls, I > wonder how they would respond to the story printed in TELECOM Digest, > Reuters, and other locations regarding the Sergeant assigned to the > White House Communications Agency who was arrested for giving out a > long distance authorization code supposedly for the White House? Did > that auth code not give them the ability to document the 9,400 calls > "worth $50,000 to the federal government?" Otherwise, how did they > track the calls? In addition, most call accounting systems attached > to PBXs can provide the originating extension number, even if auth > codes are used to actually track the LD usage. Combine the two > stories, and one's got more holes than Swiss cheese Did you know that the Swiss are having problems making the holes in their cheese? Seems that the holes come from bacteria and their dairies are now so clean that the cheese has fewer and smaller holes. They are adding bacteria to make "real" Swiss cheese. I can see a reconciliation between the two stories that is not very far fetched. The White House may not feel the need to keep the Call Detail Records. After all, there are a lot of calls, many have security issues attached to them (either political or national), and who is going to review the calls. And given that the cost of call anywhere in the US on the White House FTS2000 is a very low flat rate, you aren't going to be chasing minor telephone abuse. If staffer X calls Mom for 10 minutes on the White house phone, he may have just cost the country 10 cents. Not enough to get upset about. On the other hand, if staffer X, who is supposed to be filing papers, has spent 20 hours a week on the phone, someone needs to counsel him/her about abusing privileges. If I were the director of the White House telephone office, I don't think that I would look at the records, but at summary reports by auth code. David Esan Product Manager 3750 Monroe Avenue desan@veramark.com Pittsford, NY 14534 USA Voice: 1-716-381-6000 x6541 Fax: 1-716-383-6800 ------------------------------ From: Leo Subject: Collect Call Procedure Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:15:25 +0700 Organization: Siemens AG,(Hofmannstr) Munich-Germany-Europe. Hi, I was browsing the Internet to find any document covering CollectCall procedure (technical and legal). I only found some very general info from ITU rec. Does anyone has something comperehensive for me as a reading reference?? Thanks in advance and best regrads, Leo Nukegalih ------------------------------ From: tknab@nyx.net (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: "Art" Imitates Life in the MCI/Worldcom Outage? Organization: The Home Office Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:38:48 GMT Steve Sobol wrote: >> From 'Carl Moore': >> Several months ago, you noted Wile E. (Coyote, obviously from the >> Coyote & Roadrunner cartoons, from Warner Brothers) and "Acme". >> chain based near Philadelphia! I'm well aware of it, having grown up >> in northern Delaware and seeing Acme Markets as far away as >> northeastern Maryland. > The Albrecht Company, headquartered down in Akron, also runs a local > chain of grocery stores named Acme. And here in St. Joseph, MO, we have a vending co. called Acme. (As well as a major owner of TV stations affiliated with the WB, ACME too :) Terry E. Knab News/Acting System Administrator Nyx Public Access Unix ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #57 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Sun Apr 9 17:05:10 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA11457; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:05:10 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004092105.RAA11457@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #58 TELECOM Digest Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:05:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 58 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson When a Free Service Has a Big Hook in it (freeservices@workbench.net) ICANN be Annoyed at This (Justa Lurker) Re: Those White House Phone Records (Randy Hayes) You've Got Inappropriate Mail (Monty Solomon) Legality of 'Deep Linking' Remains Deeply Complicated (Monty Solomon) Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest (Jay Hennigan) Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest (Jeff W. McKeough) Interactive Telecom Network Inc. (John Delaney) Your Web Site (Basictwmnd@aol.com) Re: Collect Call Procedure (Jerry Harder) Re: 3.4 Ghz to 3.6 Ghz - International Activity (Marcus Aakesson) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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I have a web page that features free Internet services (at http://freeservices.uni.cc/) and one of the services that I have listed is called freeXDSL. On their front page (located at http://www.freexdsl.com/), they make a very attractive offer: "freeXDSL" Service provides high-speed Internet access for your home or office -- up to 200 times faster than traditional 28.8 modem speeds. ... and by the way, did we mention that it's totally FREE?" Sounds like a great deal, right? But it turns out there's a pretty sharp hook in this offer that might catch the unwary. Tonight I received an e-mail from a visitor to my page, that pointed out something I was not aware of about this company, namely that once you sign up for their service, if they cancel your service (for a violation of their Acceptable Use Policy, or failure to comply with their terms of service agreement) or if YOU cancel your service (for ANY reason), and it has been less than FIVE YEARS since you first started to receive service from them, you would be on the hook to them for FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS!!! That is not exactly what I would expect from a company that advertises a service as "totally free" - and note that this is buried in section 22 of their terms of service agreement (which you can view at http://www.freexdsl.com/agreement.html). The agreement does tell you right at the top to read it carefully, however most people probably are not going to wade through 28 sections of legalese (something that this company was perhaps counting on???), especially when they think they are getting a "totally free" service. The section in question reads as follows (this is how it was sent to me by the visitor to my page, if your e-mail reader supports styled text you will see that he emphasized certain words - this emphasis is NOT in the original text on the web site): [This is found in section 22.0 - TERMINATION] "SMART may suspend or terminate MEMBER'S account for freeXDSLTM SERVICE at any time for any reason including but not limited to failure to comply with the terms of this Agreement or any SMART policy. If terminated by SMART for a violation by MEMBER of SMART'S AUP or MEMBER'S failure to comply with this Agreement, or if terminated by MEMBER for any reason after the seventh day following MEMBER'S execution of this Agreement, such execution by MEMBER completing registration for freeXDSL(TM) SERVICE, but before the fifth anniversary of the implementation of MEMBER'S freeXDSLTM SERVICE, MEMBER agrees to pay to SMART as liquidated damages Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) to offset SMART'S expense of allocating service, bandwidth, hardware, or human resources to process the order, arrange for service, or to provide freeXDSLTM service to MEMBER, excluding any termination by MEMBER if SMART were to cease providing freeXDSLTM SERVICE with no monthly fees, in which case MEMBER would have the right to cancel service with no liability to SMART for termination." I can understand that they don't want people to sign up and then two months later simply decide to drop the service, however this seems pretty steep and the time is definitely excessive in our mobile society. How many people can really say with any certainty where they will be living five years from now? They don't offer any exception if you move (as far as I can tell, there is nothing in that agreement about transferring service to a new address), if you are hospitalized for an extended period or even if you die! There are other interesting provisions in this agreement, too. For example, you give them authority to provide your local or long distance telephone, or cable TV service if they are authorized to do so. That might not mean much now, but who's to say that in two or three years your local or long distance phone service won't suddenly be switched? (Mind you, if they try this in Michigan, they will quickly rack up substantial fines under our new anti-slamming law, unless they use an approved method of verification). Those of you with more of a legal background may see other problems there as well. Now the funny part is, I remember looking at this agreement a few months ago (I think my son asked me about it) and I do NOT recall any mention of this $500 at that time. Which brings up a major problem with web-based agreements -- the company can change the agreement at any time and unless you had enough foresight to make a copy, you have no way to prove what it originally said. And many people don't even know how to make a copy of a Web page! Of course, there is also a problem for them -- they have no physical signature and anyone can fill in a web form using someone else's name and information. I would certainly hope that they would get some additional verification before making any changes to someone's phone service. To me this seems like something that has the potential to cause a lot of problems for many consumers who think they are simply signing up to get free high-speed Internet access. They ought to at least highlight that $500 business in bright red, or make it the first thing at the top of the agreement (or both), and also put something right on the signup page (maybe a line such as "$500 penalty for early cancellation, be sure to read the terms of service agreement!"). How many people are forced to move unexpectedly? It happened to me when my ex-wife divorced me, it's happened to others when flood or fire consumed their home, or they've had a serious accident or medical problems, or the company they work for transfers them, or any number of other reasons. Few people can say with anything approaching certainty where they will be in five years. Anyway, it seems to me that any company that advertises a service as "free" on their home page also ought to put a disclaimer on their home page if it has the potential to not really be free. And I also think that when people are required to indicate agreement with some document, it ought to be written in plain English, and once they sign up, a copy should be e-mailed to them and they should be required to send a return e-mail that again indicates acceptance before they are bound by it. This way, if they save their e-mail, they at least have a copy of exactly what they agreed to, as well as one more opportunity to bail out if they don't like the terms presented. If you think that this is a raw deal for the consumer, as I do, perhaps you might want to help get a warning out on this. I have not spoken to any company representatives (it's Saturday night, and I'm not a reporter) so if you want to get their side of this first, it probably would not be a bad idea, and actually I'd be interested in hearing how they can possibly rationalize this. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 04:03:00 -0700 From: /dev/null@.com (Justa Lurker) Subject: ICANN be Annoyed at This Organization: Anonymous People Reply-To: jlurker@bigfoot.com (Reply to the digest please) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 10:55:31 GMT For your consideration: A quote from http://www.bulkregister.com/disputepolicy.html: b. Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. (i) circumstances indicating that you have registered or you have acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or to a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; A snip from their whois on one of the domains they administer: (domain removed to protect a potential user) [whois.alabanza.com] DomainCollection.com (____-COM-DOM) FOR SALE by www.DomainCollection.com FAX 305-463-9709, FL 33172 US Domain Name: ____.COM Administrative Contact: Domain Sales (DS7-BR) DomainSales@DomainCollection.com Phone- 305-914-4642 Fax- 305-470-9353 Technical Contact: Domains Hostmaster (DH1-BR) Hostmaster@DomainCollection.net Phone- 305-914-4642 Fax- 305-470-9353 Billing Contact: Billing Department (BD2-BR) Billing@DomainCollection.com Phone- 305-914-4642 Fax- 305-470-9353 Record updated on 2000-03-26. Record created on 2000-03-26. Database last updated on 2000-04-09 02:38:52 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS3.THIS-DOMAIN-IS-FOR-SALE.COM 207.252.38.215 NS1.TO-BUY-THIS-DOMAIN-FAX-305-463-9709.COM 207.252.38.214 NS2.EMAILUS-DOMAINSALESATDOMAINCOLLECTION.COM 207.252.38.216 Also: "DomainCollection strives to obey all applicable laws regarding the registration and use of domain names. We also adhere to the policies established by ICANN for domain name registration." Considering that BulkRegister offers to register domains at $10 each if you register 2000 or more domains a month, I'd say that their system is wide open for speculation. (sigh) I miss the days of InterNIC.Net , when domains were free and yet still controlled. Justa Lurker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 11:03:24 -0500 From: Randy Hayes Subject: Re: Those White House Phone Records David Esan wrote: > I can see a reconciliation between the two stories ... the White > House may not feel the need to keep the call detail records ... I > don't think I'd look at the records, I'd look at the summary reports > by auth code. The point is, to have summary reports you must first have collected the call data. Your point is well taken that in reviewing call records, one often begins by reviewing summary information from various reports, then "drills-down" if a closer look is needed. Rarely in a large environment would anyone review call records line-by-line unless something suspicious leads them to do so. Most telecom managers retain a certain number of months (or even years if necessary) of the raw call data on electronic storage media (excluding those types of calls, ie., internal, local, etc. in a month-end or similar process if the point is mainly to track long distance calls/cost). So, while records may not be read in totality each month, the raw data can usually be accessed very quickly. In addition, if sensitivity of the data was the rationale for retaining or deleting information including call records, virtually no records of any kind would be kept by the White House, given the nature of the business, so that explanation really doesn't fit ... In the case of the Sargeant accused of toll fraud via the White House, for the calls, minutes, and cost to have been documented, the raw call data almost certainly was used, as they tracked-down some of the people who used the long distance authorization codes via the called numbers, etc. (offering them immunity to testify). So, for someone else to indicate in another issue that call records are not collected and/or retained, it just doesn't fit. Randal J. Hayes randal.hayes@uni.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:04:27 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Monitoring of Office E-Mail Is Increasing By LISA GUERNSEY Andrew Quinn, a systems manager at a toy company near Montreal, is starting to learn more about his fellow employees than he had ever wanted to know. He has found that one co-worker has a penchant for herbal remedies, another likes jokes about women drivers and another checks the lottery numbers each morning. http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/04/biztech/articles/05mail.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:31:59 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Legality of 'Deep Linking' Remains Deeply Complicated By CARL S. KAPLAN Legality of 'Deep Linking' Remains Deeply Complicated When a federal judge issued a decision last week in a case involving "deep linking," many reports suggested that the controversial Internet practice was now unambiguously legal. But the story is more complex than that. In fact, deep linking -- the practice of linking to a page deep inside another Web site, bypassing its home page -- still appears to be in legal limbo. http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/04/cyber/cyberlaw/07law.html ------------------------------ From: jay@west.net (Jay Hennigan) Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Organization: Disgruntled Postal Workers Against Gun Control Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:43:22 GMT On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:58:46 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote: > Ditching years of brand equity built up in the shared "Bell" trademark > which it acquired when it was spun off of AT&T, Bell Titanic's branding > company (anybody know which one they used?) came up with the toe-tapping > "Verizon". (At least it doesn't end in -ent! *Somebody* must have known about it in advance. Look what was registered in anticipation, way back on November 11, 1999: Registrant: WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZONSUCKS-DOM) 555 12ST NW D.C, WA 20004 US Domain Name: VERIZONSUCKS.COM Record last updated on 11-Nov-1999. Record created on 11-Nov-1999. Database last updated on 8-Apr-2000 13:33:35 EDT. GeekTools WHOIS Proxy v2.2.2 Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - jay@west.net NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Organization: The Committee for the Advancement of the Amusement of Ned From: jwm@spdcc.com (Jeffrey William McKeough) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 03:43:33 GMT In article , Terry Knab wrote: > Scott D. Fybush wrote: >> As a consumer, my bias is towards the company that's been doing this >> for 100+ years over the brand-new upstart -- but how can I tell >> them apart when the old-line business is now "Verizon"? > Ask those of us who had one of the Bells that became US Worst (er..West), or > Ameritech, neither of which had the Bell Name in them. And neither NYNEX nor its predecessor BOCs had the Bell name. Jeffrey William McKeough I'm gonna tell you a story I'm gonna tell you about my town jwm@spdcc.com I'm gonna tell you a big bad story, baby (or spdcc.net if that bounces) Aww, it's all about my town ------------------------------ From: John Delaney Subject: Interactive Telecom Network Inc. Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:56:47 -0700 I wish to get in contact with someone at Interactive Telecom Network Inc; they are situated at 15303 Ventura Blvd Sherman Oaks Ca 91403. If this is not their address it is the address of their bank (Imperial Bank). I need an email address for them. They have sent me a cheque as a refund = on a purchase but I have a problem with processing in Australia. Can you help. John Delaney ------------------------------ From: Basictwmnd@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:16:11 EDT Subject: Your Web Site I am a telecom / PBX tech and I was just searching for some minor info on an old Stromberg Carlson PBX (which is currently called or goes by the name of Digital Voice Corp. and it's now called DBX [Digital BX]) and whilst searching I saw your site on the search engine, dropped by and have had a smile on my face ever since. What a riot. You have accumulated some absolutely great stuff and links. Just looking and reminiscing over some of the old stuff I used install and service just cracked me up in relation to what I do today. Too Funny. Great Job and I'm going to be sure to tell some of my current cohorts about your site. I'm sure the young ones whom only know single pair Norstar and Meridian will find it overwhelming and say something like "Geez... I coulda never done that!" To which I have to retort "No Kiddin!" Great Stuff - Great Site! Thank You, mnd ------------------------------ From: Jerry Harder Subject: Re: Collect Call Procedure Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:09:36 GMT Organization: @Home Network Leo wrote in message news:telecom20.57.12@telecom-digest.org: > I was browsing the Internet to find any document covering CollectCall > procedure (technical and legal). I only found some very general info > from ITU rec. > Does anyone has something comperehensive for me as a reading > reference?? See http://cpr.bst.bellsouth.com/ for typical tariff materials. Ameritech and US West also have their tariffs online. You might want to check with one of the major long distance carriers to gain an understanding of their tariffs on Collect Calls. Once the Collect Party is contacted and gives permission, the call proceeds much as any other Operator Assisted call. Good luck, Jerry Harder remove spamnein from address to reply ------------------------------ From: Marcus AAkesson Subject: Re: 3.4 GHz to 3.6 GHz - International Activity Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 19:52:10 +0200 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:19:00 -0400, D. E. 'Omar' Jennings wrote: > Is Japan setting aside 3.4 GHz to 3.6 GHz for point to multipoint or > anything ? How about other countries? In Norway the licenses are sold, and equipment is being set up right now. Iceland is also operative, and Denmark will follow soon with licensing this year probably. Finland have also , as far as I remember, distributed the licenses. Sweden is indecisive. Tele2 has a license in the UK. All this is for point-to-multipoint in the general 3,5 GHz region, but the exact frequencies may vary. Marcus AAkesson marcus.akesson@NO_SPAM_PLEASE_home.se Gothenburg Callsigns: SM6XFN & SB4779 Sweden >>>>>> Keep the world clean - no HTML in news or mail ! <<<<<< ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #58 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Mon Apr 10 00:41:05 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA26100; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004100441.AAA26100@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #59 TELECOM Digest Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:41:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 59 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: When a Free Service Has a Big Hook in It (Michael Maxfield) Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail (J.F. Mezei) Are They Following Me? 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:45:43 -0700 Subject: Re: When a Free Service Has a Big Hook in It Organization: Minimal From: tweek@io.com (Michael Maxfield) In article , wrote: > Greetings. This is a consumer alert of sorts ... I have a web page > that features free Internet services (at http://freeservices.uni.cc/) > and one of the services that I have listed is called freeXDSL. On > their front page (located at http://www.freexdsl.com/), they make a > very attractive offer: "freeXDSL™ Service provides high-speed [SNIP!] [Free to come, pay to leave.] That's a Gotcha! That I read about some time back on a web site which compares DSL services (?? dsl.com? dslreport.com?). I certainly question how many folks are going to be wanting to continue service with them, as I tried out their free dialup service for a day (the dialup service is freewwweb.com) and it litterally took 15 minutes to completely download their "home.freewwweb.com" ... not that it was anything large ... they just had sucky bandwidth out to the net where *their* homepage sat (off site). Having a superfast XDSL link to their backbone doesn't seem to me to be that smart a move if they use the same backbone. The nice thing about their Freewwweb service which got me to give it a shot was that they don't require you to run any special software. All you need to do is set your browser homepage in your settings to their home.freewwweb.com page. That is not the case with their free XDSL service though, where they require you to run blipvert[1] software. [1] Ugh, my use of a word from Max Headroom ... software which is capable of doing and seeing, who knows what, with and about your internet habits and spamming you with ads windows. > Internet access for your home or office -- up to 200 times faster than > traditional 28.8 modem speeds. I had less than 75 bps over my 56k through their freewwweb dialup. There's another company which was supposed to move from the promotional phase into the active phase on the first of this month (and judging from the amount they must have spent on radio ads, it wasn't an April Fools joke). FreeDSL (no "x") was (is?) requiring the users to buy the equipment for their end (appx $100 +) but that appeared to be the only hitch. I'm waiting to hear the stories of those who joined that service. (Freedsl caused some anger about the net by offering free dsl modems to those who sent 10 referals ... so as usual, the newbie idiots start spaming the net trying to get others to use their referral ID.) ------------------------------ From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 22:11:51 -0400 Monty Solomon wrote: > Monitoring of Office E-Mail Is Increasing > http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/04/biztech/articles/05mail.html In that article (and a few others I have read on the subject) there is mention of employees "spending hours" on a web site. Just how do they monitor how much time an employee spends on a web site ? I find it very hard to grasp how one can capture accounting information on how much time is spent on a web site (from a client point of view, not the web site server). What happens if I point the beowser to www.sextoys.com giggle for 30 seconds and then switch to WORD or EXCELL or whatever other program without stopping Netscape? Does this mean that I am still "logged in" to that www.sextoys.com from the employer's point of view? Either I really do not understand the concept of HTTP requests, or I fail to understand how companies monitor how much time is being spent on a particular web site by an employee. Can anyone explain what techniques/data is used to derive such numbers? ------------------------------ From: Clarence Dold Subject: Are They Following Me? Date: 9 Apr 2000 21:40:23 GMT Organization: a2i network Reply-To: dold@rahul.net Maybe this has been discussed before... If I use the "Go Express" search engine, I get good rsults, but all of the subsequent clicking comes wrapped in a go.com window, leading me to believe they either are, or could, be monitoring my site visits. That's okay ... in part because it is so obvious. But I'm worried about "homestead.com" They offer free web sites. A friend has a site there. When I look at the html source generated for his web page, I see (I've stuck in some . so this will show up as text.) What this might say to me is that I have just loaded a dll from their site, called "track". Might this track, or do whatever a dll might do, until I leave my browser, or reboot? Clarence A Dold - dold@rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. ------------------------------ From: Roy Smith Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Organization: New York University School of Medicine Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 20:53:28 -0400 jay@west.net (Jay Hennigan) wrote: > *Somebody* must have known about it in advance. Look what was > registered in anticipation, way back on November 11, 1999: > Registrant: > WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZONSUCKS-DOM) > 555 12ST NW > D.C, WA 20004 > US I would assume that the picking of a name for a company as large as BA/GTE is a process that goes on for many months, and begins with a large number of candidate names which are reviewed, tried out in focus groups, thought about, etc. I'm sure as soon as a potential name gets thought of, it is registered, along with a variety of uncomplementary variants such as XXXsucks, in self defense. ------------------------------ From: hannigan@clue-store.fugawi.net (Martin Hannigan) Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Date: 9 Apr 2000 21:17:05 GMT Reply-To: hannigan@fugawi.net WHASUUUUUP! On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:43:22 GMT, Jay Hennigan a wrote: > On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:58:46 -0400, Fred Goldstein > wrote: >> Ditching years of brand equity built up in the shared "Bell" trademark >> which it acquired when it was spun off of AT&T, Bell Titanic's branding >> company (anybody know which one they used?) came up with the toe-tapping >> "Verizon". (At least it doesn't end in -ent! > *Somebody* must have known about it in advance. Look what was > registered in anticipation, way back on November 11, 1999: > Registrant: > WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZONSUCKS-DOM) > 555 12ST NW > D.C, WA 20004 > US > Domain Name: VERIZONSUCKS.COM > > Record last updated on 11-Nov-1999. > Record created on 11-Nov-1999. > Database last updated on 8-Apr-2000 13:33:35 EDT. > GeekTools WHOIS Proxy v2.2.2 That's funny. But did you ever see how Akamai did it? Go dig on Akamai at NetSol and check it out. :) -M ------------------------------ From: tbetz@panix.com (Tom Betz) Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of "Name That Domain" Contest Date: 9 Apr 2000 21:23:30 GMT Organization: Society for the Elimination of Junk Unsolicited Bulk Email Reply-To: tbetz@pobox.com Quoth jay@west.net (Jay Hennigan) in : > On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:58:46 -0400, Fred Goldstein > wrote: >> Ditching years of brand equity built up in the shared "Bell" trademark >> which it acquired when it was spun off of AT&T, Bell Titanic's branding >> company (anybody know which one they used?) came up with the toe-tapping >> "Verizon". (At least it doesn't end in -ent! > *Somebody* must have known about it in advance. Look what was > registered in anticipation, way back on November 11, 1999: > Registrant: > WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZONSUCKS-DOM) > 555 12ST NW > > D.C, WA 20004 > US > Domain Name: VERIZONSUCKS.COM You'll probably find that Chris Wilson is a lawyer for Bell Atlantic/GTE/Verizon. |I always wanted to be someone,| Tom Betz, Generalist | |but now I think I should have | Want to send me email? FIRST, READ THIS PAGE: | |been a wee bit more specific. | | | | YO! MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS HEAVILY SPAM-ARMORED! | ------------------------------ From: nospam.tonypo1@nospam.home.com (Tony Pelliccio) Subject: Re: Bell-Atlantic to be Renamed "Verizon" Organization: Providence Network Partners Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 20:07:35 GMT In article , dalgoda@ix.netcom.net says ... > In article , > Tony Pelliccio wrote: >> Verizon? I suppose Veriphone was already taken, or that they just >> couldn't buy it. > Well, VeriFone is a pretty big company. Many (most?) credit card boxes > around are made by VeriFone (pay attention next time you're shopping, > especially if the box is like a 4"x4" square and gray). Depends where you go. Those VeriFone boxes are disappearing quickly as point of sale software integrates credit card functionality. I happen to know, I sell Synchronics CounterPoint and the base version has cc processing through PNC Bank (Aka FDMS) built in. == Tony Pelliccio, KD1S formerly KD1NR == Trustee WE1RD ------------------------------ From: Clarence Dold Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Date: 9 Apr 2000 21:28:46 GMT Organization: a2i network Reply-To: dold@rahul.net Michael Will wrote: > Am I wrong, or are these telemarketers missing the concept? Wouldn't > a smart one (oxymoron?) only check for SIT prior to supervision? The predictive dialers, even those connected via T1, do not typically handle out-of-band signalling. They "listen" for recognizable tones. Clarence A Dold - dold@rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. ------------------------------ From: jata@aepiax.net (Julian Thomas) Subject: Re: Dial Tone Timer? Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 20:01:21 GMT In , on 04/06/00 at 05:55 AM, Frank said: > Anyone know of a device that will disconnect dial tone to a modem at a > time determined by me? A line in and line out with a timer to set the > time of day the line will be dead. What about a simple timer (the kind that people use to turn lights on and off at set times) in the power line to the modem? If that's no good, use the timer to control a relay in the phone line. Julian Thomas: jt . epix @ net http://home.epix.net/~jt remove letter a for email (or switch . and @) In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org WarpTech 2000: May 26-28 in Phoenix - plan NOW to attend! www.warptech.org Error #33: (A)bort this mess (R)etry last mistake (S)kip to new mess-up. ------------------------------ From: 73115.1041@compuserve.com Subject: Re: Priority Routing in Telecom Switches Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 19:18:46 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Bill Horne wrote: > They isn't any unless you look at Military switches. Civilian switches > are equipped for *DIAL TONE* priority, which allows certain classes of > line to get dial tone before others when there's a crunch, i.e., during > "mass calling" events, but the civilian network is not, and never has > been, equipped for priority routing. Once a customer dials a call, he > falls into the same routing pool as every other user. Well, maybe not. I've had some discussions with a former program manger for the GETS program (otherwise known as area code 710). While he was somewhat guarded about the details, GETS works by allowing calls to be routed using an adjunct processor next to the switch. The adjunct processor uses certain commands normally restricted to the CO console operator to prioritize and route traffic from an otherwise routine source. Interestingly enough, he related a story about someone randomly dialing 710 numbers that reached a rather secure government alternate command facility. ------------------------------ From: J.F. Mezei Subject: Re: Priority Routing in Telecom Switches Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 21:22:05 -0400 Bill Horne wrote: > been, equipped for priority routing. Once a customer dials a call, he > falls into the same routing pool as every other user. > This may not seem to apply to private networks, and some of the more > exotic centrex classes, but even there the principle is the same: all > users that have access to a given path have an equal shot at it. In Australia, one can use a different prefix to begin an overseas call and get priority routing and "extra bandwidth" for fax calls. It is charged the same rate as normal calls. From what I read, you will have priority for a undersea cable connection whereas a call not using that prefix *might* go satellite. I don't know exactly how it is implemented and "exactly" what it does. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:00:55 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Battling Censorware Copyright law is limited by the Constitution. But when there are conflicts with the First Amendment, some courts lean the other way. By Lawrence Lessig If you ask the average (very average) copyright lawyer whether there is tension between copyright law and the First Amendment, you'll get a slogan for an answer: "No tension, none at all, so long as copyright law permits 'fair use.'" A toy company last week demonstrated how unreal this slogan has become. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/1,1151,13533,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:11:05 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Web Privacy Group to Offer a Seal of Approval By LAURIE J. FLYNN An assortment of 26 Internet companies involved in advertising will soon announce yet another organization to tackle the prickly issue of consumer privacy on the Web. http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/04/biztech/articles/03priv.html ------------------------------ Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Seeking Employment Test From: John Werner Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 17:16:21 -0700 Does anyone have any suggestions for study guides for the SBC Communications(Southwestern Bell) pre-employment test for Network Center Technician? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:52:53 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Digital Signatures a Threat to Privacy? By Robert Lemos, ZDNN TORONTO -- Your ability to surf the Internet anonymously could be lost in the near future, if current plans to roll out digital signatures stay on track, warned a panel of experts at the Computers, Freedom and Privacy Conference. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2523596,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:56:29 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Real Screaming over Streaming by Christopher Jones The rights of software developers and copyright owners are colliding this week in a Seattle courtroom as RealNetworks tries to prevent a rival from getting a piece of its lucrative streaming business. http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,33405,00.html ------------------------------ Subject: Re: CPP, ATM Surcharges From: craigm@earthling.net (Craig Macbride) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 03:58:55 GMT Fred Goldstein writes: > CPP operates rather like a collect call. The rate is NOT set by the > caller's carrier, but by the called carrier. That's what some people have proposed (or possibly implemented) in the, but it makes no sense. CPP is _not_ a reverse-charges (collect) call. It is a standard call, in which the standard practice of caller pays applies. > It is indeed > "bastardized" but that is exactly how collect calls have worked since > time immemorial Which is irrelevant, since we are not talking about collect calls. > In the USA, any old carrier, AOS or "information provider" is allowed > to pay LECs for billing services. That's how the 900-call business > works; again the originator's carrier has no say over the price. 1900 "information" services are the exception, not the rule. Again, they should have nothing to do with caller-pays mobile phones charges, any more than they have to do with caller-pays long distance land line charges. > CPP is very much like 900 service. Not that I can see. > The fact that the rest of the planet > uses it doesn't make it right, at least for the USA; I think for once > the USA got the right model (cellular subscriber pays for their own > convenience). And you seem to be "supporting" a hare-brained version of CPP in order to support this stance. This is pointless since _ANY_ scheme looks good against your version of CPP. Craig Macbride -----------------------http://www.nyx.net/~cmacbrid------------------------ "It's a sense of humour like mine, Carla, that makes me proud to be ashamed of myself." - Captain Kremmen ------------------------------- End of TELECOM Digest V20 #59 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Mon Apr 10 18:00:05 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA01578; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004102200.SAA01578@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #60 TELECOM Digest Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:00:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 60 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Digital Signatures For French Hybrid Mail Documents (Jean-Bernard Condat) Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (Riklef Flor) Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail (Ryan Shook) Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail (J.F. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean-Bernard Condat Subject: Digital Signatures For French Hybrid Mail Documents Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:59:20 +0200 The evolution of the WorldWideWeb has opened up new markets for all aspects of business, including postal business. POSTEASY is the lastest development in the Postal Hybrid Mail area. It incorporates to a basic postal service, the last developments in web and postal technologies. By this way, we can propose solutions well adapted to the needs of each customer. Posibilities are larges, and the advantages for the customers are numerous. On this market in exponential growth, Posteasy is very well positioned, proposing a complete offer, endowed to a total securisation system. Beyond a Web-based Hybrid Mail, Posteasy offers to act as Trust Third Part. Henceforth for fax, e-mail, letter transmission, you can call on POSTEASY's services. Whatever the communication support is, Posteasy proposes to sequester and to archivate for life by a usher, in a secure system control, the content of its communication. Constantly, the integrity of the documents is preserved, and its juridical value irrefutable. In order to ensure that Posteasy solutions meets all market requirements, the project was divided in two phases : Definition phase including market assessment, services and products definition and prototyping. Development phase including platform development, making of the first customer' contacts, internal audit. Different market assessments realised during the 12 last months, have confirmed that a lucrative potential market exists for Posteasy services. The second phase of the Web-based Hybrid Mail was then initiated the first of march. A technology partner has begun to develop a Web-based solution that will enable customer to send their mail to Posteasy plateform in a high availability and a highly secure system. In this instance, Posteasy services allow many progressive organisations to outsource much of their mail production in an attempt to focus on their core business and reduce costs (for example, it has been estimated that the real cost of an acknowledging letter in a French company was 222,00 FF...), making them less dependent on in-house logistics and acquisition of the latest production equipment. Moreover, by offering a reduced mailing time, this solution of outsourcing, doubled with a high certification level of the transmitted documents, ensures that Posteasy becomes a true alternative. In fact, it seems that the day where the national Postal Operator was the only way to send mail have gone. Posteasy SA 42 bd Sebastopol, 75003 Paris, France Phone: +33144599459, fax: +33144593555, condat@posteasy.org, +33607238628 ------------------------------ From: Riklef Flor Subject: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:35:56 -0500 I have another simple, free way of stopping telemarketers that I haven't seen mentioned before. It's a variation of the "Not Saying Hello" method. When I answer the phone and say "Hello" ... if I don't hear an immediate response, I hang up. Invariably, it turns out to be a predictive dialer hunting for an open line. I've only been "wrong" once ... and that was my wife, who uses the same trick. Interestingly enough, this caused my telemarketing calls to drop ... more so than saying "put me on your do not call list". Anyone know if this technique gets me off lists because it's an "invalid phone number"? Rik ------------------------------ From: Ryan Shook Subject: Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:57:37 -0400 Organization: University of Waterloo On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, JF Mezei wrote: > Monty Solomon wrote: >> Monitoring of Office E-Mail Is Increasing >> http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/04/biztech/articles/05mail.html > In that article (and a few others I have read on the subject) there is > mention of employees "spending hours" on a web site. > Just how do they monitor how much time an employee spends on a web > site ? I find it very hard to grasp how one can capture accounting > information on how much time is spent on a web site (from a client > point of view, not the web site server). I'm speculating a little here, put if a proxy/firewall is used by the company, which is almost always the case. It probably is not difficult for the proxy to log the client making a request with date/time stamp and the destination of the request. Now examine the logs from the proxy. Sort by user (internal computer name or IP address) and then sort by time. From here it should be easy to recognize a flurry of activity in a short time period. If this short time period is really an extended time period and the sites logged are not work related then it sounds like you have found who is doing excessive non-company related surfing. The magic is all in the logging of the proxy. It wouldn't be hard to write a Perl script to search through the log, sort by client, then by time and do some sort of histogram. you could also print out a list of "highest hit" websites and see what jumps out. The trick is that a proxy forces all traffic through a single point. It is then easy to log such traffic. The proxy by nature keeps track of who requested what; it isn't hard to log that to file. Ryan ------------------------------ From: J.F. Mezei Subject: Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:51:23 -0400 Daniel Seagraves wrote: > Do you go through a proxy? If you do, ANYTHING you do can (and probably > is!) being logged. Wouldn't the proxy only log HTTP requests ? (and responses). If I download a very large/long page (one HTTP transaction), and spend eight hours reading it, how will the employer know I was "logged in" to that site for eight hours? If I send one http request to www.sextoys.com at 14:00, spend a minute reading it, then return to my real work in a word processor/spreadsheet, and at 14:30, I take a break and switch to netscape and click on one of the buttons on the www.sextoys.com page that is still there, (thus generating another HTTP request), will the employer then assume I was "logged in" to that site for the full half hour? (even though I was doing real work). ------------------------------ From: Barry Margolin Subject: Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Organization: GTE Internetworking, Cambridge, MA Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:57:10 GMT In article , JF Mezei wrote: > In that article (and a few others I have read on the subject) there is > mention of employees "spending hours" on a web site. > Just how do they monitor how much time an employee spends on a web > site? I find it very hard to grasp how one can capture accounting > information on how much time is spent on a web site (from a client > point of view, not the web site server). > What happens if I point the browser to www.sextoys.com giggle for 30 > without stopping Netscape? Does this mean that I am still "logged in" > to that www.sextoys.com from the employer's point of view? A user who is spending time on a particular web site is probably clicking links every few seconds. A URL followed by idle time isn't a problem. A person spending time on a web site will show up in the log as someone sending lots of URLs for different pages at the same site in a period of time. Barry Margolin, barmar@genuity.net Genuity, Burlington, MA *** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups. Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group. ------------------------------ From: mariettageorgia@aol.comxspam (Marietta Georgia) Date: 10 Apr 2000 18:14:17 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? Hello, I *think* I saw this question answered here once before but I'm not sure. Does anyone know what calls that show up as Out-Of-Area 000-000-0000 are? This number comes through on a system that has BellSouth's Privacy Director which is supposed to reject out-of-area calls. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: John McCreedy Subject: Help Me Out Please Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:41:09 -0400 I 'm looking for info on new phone systems and came across: http://tellearn.com Great resource. Does anyone know anything about this site? Thank you, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:41:00 EDT From: Carl Moore Subject: Wierd Call I was going to write about people forgetting to put 1 in front of area code 847, but I see your message refers to a call FROM 847-xxxx. If people are wardialling, then what is your telephone number similar to? I just called 773-847-8495 myself, and there was an unintelligible bit of speech before the "thank you", suggesting that I joined a recording in progress and had gotten an ending fragment of a word. ----- Forwarded message # 1: From: mbusse@midway.uchicago.edu Subject: Wierd Call Organization: Com Ed Bites like a Great White Shark Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:22:01 GMT I tend to get a lot of random calls where people just hang up when one answers. (Most of which, I assume, are people wardialling, or something similar.) The other day, I actually decided to call one of them back. The number was (773) 847-8495. When you call it, it rings for a while, then a recorded voice says "Thank you." Does anyone have any idea what the heck this might be? "My guess might be excellent or it might be crummy, but Mrs. Spade didn't raise any children dippy enough to make guesses in front of a district attorney, and an assistant district attorney, and a stenographer."-Sam Spade ----- End of forwarded messages ------------------------------ From: VDonatelli@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:12:32 EDT Subject: Toll Free Recommendations? (Please) Could anyone please tell me of a good IXC company (and contact name?) for setting up a toll free "shared usage" program? I am planning to use only NPA routing, nothing fancy. There would need to be re-billing capabilities, direct access to change routing tables, no fee per each terminating location, and decent pricing. Above all else, reliability and trustworthiness are paramount. The big guys have the capabilities, but I have had no luck trying to find anyone within those organizations that have any knowledge about setting up a shared usage program, or that could give a damn about getting my business without some sort of huge volume commitment. Secondly, does anyone know about, or have experience with, any of the companies that have set themselves out as being in business to co-market vanity numbers? It seems that assigning resporg status to an unknown entity could be a very risky thing to do. Or am I being paranoid? I look forward and appreciate your responses. Many thanks in advance! V. Donatelli Vdonatelli@aol.com ------------------------------ From: J.F. Mezei Subject: Re: Are They Following Me? Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:10:29 -0400 Clarence Dold wrote: > S.R.C="http://track.homestead.com/~site/Scripts_Track/track.dll ?H_H=2912551 &H_P=1 &H_A=3333418 &E=51 &E=467 &E=33 &E=8" > What this might say to me is that I have just loaded a dll from their site, > called "track". Might this track, or do whatever a dll might do, until I > leave my browser, or reboot? No. What that does is send a request to track.homestead.com. The web server there would be configured to execute track.dll inside the web server instread of sending it to you. Track.dll would be expected to communicate with the web server, read the HTTP headers that came from you (inclding the parameters) and then respond by sending some HTML through the web server to the web client (you). Based on what you said, I would assume that the track.dll would do two things: -log to file the fact that you clicked on that button, image. -lookup the real URL based on the numeric parameters suplied, -and generate a "redirect" response back to your web browser. upon receiving that redirect, your browser would send a request to the URL that was supplied in the redirect. Note that web sites do not download "executables" to your machine to run as part of the browser continuously. For on thing, there are plenty of platforms accessing those pages. That dll wouldn't work on a MAC, SUN, VAX, ALPHA etc. The few "programs" that are downloaded onto your web browser are plug-ins such as Flash or Quicktime and JAVA applets. These tend to stop/disapear when you switch to another URL. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:48:50 -0400 From: Fred Goldstein Subject: Re: CPP, ATM Surcharges Various Europeans have been taking me to task for my descriptions of how calling-party-pays cellular works here in the US of A. Craig McBride, for instance, says, fg>> CPP operates rather like a collect call. The rate is NOT set by the >> caller's carrier, but by the called carrier. fg> That's what some people have proposed (or possibly implemented) in > the, but it makes no sense. CPP is _not_ a reverse-charges (collect) > call. It is a standard call, in which the standard practice of caller > pays applies ... > And you seem to be "supporting" a hare-brained version of CPP in order > to support this stance. This is pointless since _ANY_ scheme looks > good against your version of CPP. I would like to see ONE SCINTILLA of evidence that there is ANY serious consideration by the FCC of a CPP scheme that is NOT based on the "collect" model. ABSOLUTELY NOBODY in the USA with any influence (carriers, regulators) is pushing a European-style "settlements" system. It's collect or nothing. Yes, it's hare-brained, and no, it won't catch on if it is imposed, and yes, it is incredibly rife for fraud since there is NO separate numbering space proposed for these services (they *might* get separate prefix codes, randomly assigned available NPA-NXX combinations). This ain't Europe. ------------------------------ From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) Subject: Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 05:14:24 PST Organization: Shadownet Carl Knoblock writes: > Administrator wrote: >> Do you happen to have a working database for the area codes in >> relation to their zip codes? One in Access or CGI scripting (or any >> other format for that matter) would be great. > Since Area codes and Zip codes serve totally unrelated purposes, the > only thing they have in common is geography. And except at stateN > and major rivers, they rarely share the same border lines. So thee > only thing they have in common is geography. And except at state > lines would be a small but growing subset of Zip codes that would appear in > two or more Numbering Plan Areas (The proper name for Area Codes.) Also, the Post Office *moves* Zipcodes at times. There was a Zip code that used to refer to an area that is now a suburb of Portland OR that now refers to pretty empty chunk of territory halfway between Portland and the Pacific Ocean. We found this out when trying to straighten out some stuff involving one of the local branches of a non-profit educational group. The national organization determines "boundaries" between branches based on zip codes. And the list of zips they had for the local branches were pretty messed up. For one thing, they'd fallen into the trap of "All 972 codes are Portland". Nope. Codes aren't assigned that way. Personally, from examining a zip code map, and comparing it with other maps, I'd not want to try assuming *any* sort of correlation between zip codes and areacodes. The boundaries for both are just *too* weird. Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow) shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort ------------------------------ From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) Subject: NPA-NXX Info for Canada, Carribbean Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 05:33:13 PST Organization: Shadownet www.nanpa.com has files with the NPA-NXX assignments for the US. But not for the rest of the NANPA. This makes very little sense, but that's the way it is. Is there a web site where I can download the equivalent of the xxUTLZD and xxAVAIL files for the non-US parts of the NANPA? Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow) shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort ------------------------------ From: John Schmerold Subject: Directory Number Charge Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:25:46 -0500 As you may remember, I am a proponent of a directory number charge - $5 ought to do it, that would help eliminate the problems we face with phone number shortages. Had lunch with a SWB veteran last week. Learned the issue is barrier to entry. If that's why we can't implement common sense solutions to an issue I consider to be a nuisance at a minimum and a major safety issue (my kids had a hard time reaching us due to the area code change) on the outside, then let's go back to good ole Ma Bell. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:57:09 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: FBI Brews Digital Storm, CDT Calls for Stronger Privacy Standards Excerpt from http://www.cdt.org/ FBI Brews Digital Storm, CDT Calls for Stronger Privacy Standards - In testimony to a House Judiciary subcommittee, CDT staff counsel Jim Dempsey calls for stronger privacy rules for government access to communications and stored data. Law enforcement agencies currently have access to a growing volume of digital information, often under minimal standards, so much information that the FBI is developing a new generation of analytic tools, known as Digital Storm, to sift and link data from disparate sources. April 6, 2000 - CDT testimony: "The Fourth Amendment and the Internet", April 6, 2000 http://www.cdt.org/testimony/000406dempsey.shtml - CDT presentation on Digital Storm http://www.cdt.org/privacy/govaccess/ - Washington Post article 'Digital Storm' Brews at FBI http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20426-2000Apr5.html ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #60 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Tue Apr 11 11:38:50 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA04121; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:38:50 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004111538.LAA04121@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #61 TELECOM Digest Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:38:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 61 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 4/10 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer) Need Advice for Interop 2000 (Dr. J.D. Reilly) Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail (Paul Wallich) Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail (Danny Burstein) Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail (Ryan Shook) Microwave Towers (Daryl Gibson) Re: CPP, ATM Surcharges (M. Verdier) Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound (Bob) Re: Verizontal Marks End of 'Name That Domain' Contest (Jay Grimaldi) Revenge On The Telemarketers (Monty Solomon) Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (Greg Paksi) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Judith Oppenheimer Subject: 4/10 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:57:25 -0400 ************************************************************************* ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES ************************************************************************* from ICB Toll Free News - Daily News and Intelligence covering the Political, Legal and Marketing Arenas of 800 and Dot Com. ************************************************************************* ARTICLE ACCESS CODE LEGEND ICB Toll Free News offers two valuable service options: F = Free - News and Features articles P = Premium - Unlimited Site Access including all Articles and Documents. ************************************************************************* SPOTLIGHT: ICANN controls something called the "A" root server, which gives ultimate control of the Net. In a world where everything - all transactions, all services, all information - is being migrated to the Net, that is power indeed. (F) SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1416 Your brand name is your 800 number, your address, your marketing call to action...' (F) SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1421 ************************************************************************* ISSUE WATCH covers important matters pending resolution: currently, -- SMS/800 system performance problems -- delayed rollout of 866 and 855; -- ICANN plans for Famous Marks and new Top Level Domains; -- flaws in the Domain Dispute System. see http://www.icbtollfree.com/icbheadlns.cfm. ************************************************************************* HEADLINES FOR APRIL 10, 2000 F - CYBERHQ: THE ULTIMATE CONTROL ICANN can determine who does and does not exist in cyberspace. Apart from its control of "top level" names, ICANN also controls something called the "A" root server, which gives ultimate control of the Net. In a world where everything - all transactions, all services, all information - is being migrated to the Net, that is power indeed. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1416 F - TELLME [WHAT THE NET SAYS TODAY] ... The latest Internet-surfing device has been around for about 125 years: the telephone. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1418 P - TOLLFREE TAKES ON A WHOLE NEW [MEDIA]RING To introduce the service, MediaRing.com has partnered with leading communication companies, including ITXC.net, GTE, China Netcom Corporation ("CNC"), and CE-Infocom Network Technology ("CNT") to offer free calls to and within the United States, Canada and China. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1420 F - .CO.KR DOMAIN NAME SELLS FOR $100,000 The purchase price of $100,000, is amazing considering that most local travel agencies are in the red, industry sources noted. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1424 F - YOUR NEW NAME BUDDY ... NameBuddy will provide users with keyword oriented domain name generation, which will be based on selected keywords and/or ancillary data, such as industry type or company name. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1426 ************************************************************************* >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< 800 & Domain Name Acquisition Management, Lost/Stolen 800 # Retrieval, Litigation Support, Regulatory Navigation, Correlating Domain Name & Trademark Matters. When success is the only option. >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< ************************************************************************* F - I-OPENER CHANGES POLICY, ANGERS CUSTOMERS After realizing that the $99 devices can be easily hacked and turned into low-cost PCs, the company is retroactively changing the terms of sales. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1417 F - US WEST BACKLOGGED MONTHS IN RESIDENTIAL SERVICE The company may have underestimated the regions growth, but says that deregulation is also to blame -- US West could have installed extra capacity but in a competitive marketplace "there was no guarantee" the company could recover the investment. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1419 F - IN A DOT COM WORLD, RECOGNITION IS EVERYTHING Your brand name is your 800 number, your address, your marketing call to action, and if consumers can't remember how to spell it, or the name is too generic, it's going to make a huge difference, said Jake Winebaum, a former Disney Co. executive and co-founder of eCompanies, the Santa Monica-based e-commerce incubator firm that in November agreed to pay $7.5 million in stock and cash to a Texas entrepreneur for the business.com domain name. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1421 F - ADDICTION, OR ANNUITY? How much is a dot-com name worth? "The only way to find its true market value is to float it, like any other commodity," said John Whalen, a chief operating officer at Afternic. "The New York Stock Exchange is an exchange for securities; well, we're an exchange for domain names." CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1423 F - AT&T DODGES FCC REQUEST FOR SUBSCRIBER COUNT AT&T, which will be the largest cable company after its $62.4 billion purchase of MediaOne Group, refused a request for additional information on the number of customers it will serve, a Federal Communications Commission official said. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1425 P - METATAG TM INFRINGEMENT ... A Canadian maker of heating equipment is facing a trademark infringement action in New York stemming from the use of a competitor's trademarks in the company's metatags. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1427 **************************************************advertisements********* Haven't time to search? Get targeted telecom news every week from the source. 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Reilly Subject: Need Advice for Interop 2000 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:49:34 -0400 Organization: Reilly Associates Patrick, I'm not in the business of spamming newsgroups. We had a huge space for the Vegas Interop and will not be able to attend. The thing has been sold out for months, and we are trying to find companies that were wait-listed or shut out, so that we can try to sell our space. ANY advice you have is greatly, greatly appreciated. Here's the thing I posted on a few discussion groups: Hey all, Networld + Interop 2000 has been sold out for some months. However, due to scheduling problems we (Fernlink 2000 Ltd) are unable to take advantage of the space we have reserved at N + I Las Vegas. Location: North Hall 2/3 Aisle 1800, Booth #1845 (Upper Half) Dimensions: 400 sq ft of prime location Parcel Options: 400 sq ft x 1 200 sq ft x 2 200 sq ft x 1 and 100 sq ft x 2 100 sq ft x 4 Price: $58.95 per square foot Here is your opportunity to participate in the most important networking event this year. Enjoy targeted exposure to your networking, internet and telecommunications customers. All this and Elvis, too! Please contact Joe Reilly of Reilly Associates, the US representative of Fernlink 2000 Ltd. Contact: reillyassoc@home.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I will print your announcement here in he Digest, and hope you have some luck as a result. I assume interested parties will contact you directly. PAT] ------------------------------ From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) Subject: Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:34:59 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC In article , J.F. Mezei wrote: > Daniel Seagraves wrote: >> Do you go through a proxy? If you do, ANYTHING you do can (and probably >> is!) being logged. > Wouldn't the proxy only log HTTP requests ? (and responses). If I > download a very large/long page (one HTTP transaction), and spend eight > hours reading it, how will the employer know I was "logged in" to that > site for eight hours? > If I send one http request to www.sextoys.com at 14:00, spend a > minute reading it minute reading it, then return to my real work in a word > processor/spreadsheet, and at 14:30, I take a break and switch to > netscape and click on one of the buttons on the www.sextoys.com page > that is still there, (thus generating another HTTP request), will the > employer then assume I was "logged in" to that site for the full half > hour? (even though I was doing real work). Just to be a little more geeky about it, if the page has any of a number of elements that can contain a refresh tag, unless the proxy does something to block it, it could be generating activity at set intervals indefinitely with no user intervention. For example, I keep an AP newswire page open most days; it updates automatically every ten minutes even though I may glance at it only once every few hours. If you thought really long and carefully about the problem, you could probably develop analysis tools and models that would give you an accurate picture of when people were spending time on a page rather than just having it open. But most people who think that monitoring employees' web habits -- rather than just keeping track of how well they perform -- is a good idea aren't the kind to think either long or carefully. paul ------------------------------ From: dannyb@panix.com (Danny Burstein) Subject: Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Date: 10 Apr 2000 21:52:19 -0400 Organization: "mostly unorganized" In Barry Margolin writes: >> Just how do they monitor how much time an employee spends on a web >> site? I find it very hard to grasp how one can capture accounting >> information on how much time is spent on a web site (from a client >> point of view, not the web site server). One technique used is for the monitoring software to grab a "snapshot" of your screen every umptity umptity. This would show all the open windows, their sizes, etc., giving a pretty good clue as to what you're doing. The overseer could set this up to take a frame every 30 seconds ... thus keeping track of lots and lots of stuff. A ridiculous amount of money, in fact, recently went towards purchasing a softwarehouse whose primary product was one of these programs. Sigh. Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] ------------------------------ From: Ryan Shook Subject: Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:02:26 -0400 Organization: University of Waterloo On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, J.F. Mezei wrote: > Daniel Seagraves wrote: > Wouldn't the proxy only log HTTP requests ? (and responses). If I > download a very large/long page (one HTTP transaction), and spend eight > hours reading it, how will the employer know I was "logged in" to that > site for eight hours? By the nature of how http works, the concept of "logged in" is actually quite uncommon. By default http doesn't have any concept of state. You make and break connections very frequently. State is only achieved through the use of cookies. It's not just http that proxies can track. Depending on your network configuration, the proxy machine handles *all* communication to the internet. That means that this one computer takes traffic in on one network card and sends it out on another. In the mean time the proxy can do whatever it wants with the data. Especially logging it. You can usually determine the type of traffic by the ports that the connections are being made to and made from. > If I send a http request to www.sextoys.com at 14:00, spend a minute reading > it then return to my real work in a word processor/spreadsheet, and at 14:30, > I take a break and switch to netscape and click on one of the buttons on the > www.sextoys.com page that is still there, (thus generating another HTTP > request), will the employer then assume I was logged in to that site for the > full half hour? (even though I was doing real work). I would hope that anybody implementing logging and examining logs would realize that the "useful" life of a web retrieval is around two minutes. As someone else pointed out, you look for a flurry of activity in a short period of time. Not a connection every half hour. Ryan ------------------------------ From: Daryl Gibson Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:05:35 -0600 Subject: Microwave Towers A few months ago (right before your stroke, Pat) I submitted a note about a Microwave tower with its beacon out. Since that time, I've gotten some interest in Microwave towers. It's a transient interest. It's always been there, but never been too strong ... but the reason it's surfaced right now is the divestiture of AT&T Microwave network. Many of you know that AT&T has been replacing the old Microwave shots with fiberoptic. Now, they've sold the remaining towers to American Tower, which will be remodeling a lot of them into PCS and Cell sites. This brings a colorful chapter of the Bell System to a close. These sites were built to withstand anything, and they withstood everything but the increasing demand for bandwidth. My brother-in-law tells of working on a crew that installed the power for several sites outside of Las Vegas, Nevada. He was an electrician, but this job found him using a jackhammer, drilling into the solid rock in order to put in massive pure copper grounds. The foot-thick concrete walls were filled with copper, to protect against the EMP that a nuclear blast would provide. Manned towers sometimes included a shower to wash off fallout. An Autovon building near Delta, Utah, even included a sprinkler system to wash fallout off the whole building. Many towers included antennas to communicate with Air Force One. A few months ago, an AT&T radio tech who will remain nameless gave me a tour of one of the remaining towers. "It's not like it used to be," he said. "In its heyday, this was something." One massive Caterpiller generator remained where three had been. Dials from the generators stopped at 3000 amps. Frames had been torn out, and the circuits remaining were all solid state. A map on the wall showed where the paths had gone. One by one, the towers had been decommissioned and removed from the path map, although the towers themselves remain. An engraved sign on the wall proudly welcomed all comers to the tower; a large sign extolled the virtues of communication, and Long Lines' part in it. I suspect that tower will soon be totally gutted, if it hasn't been already. The fact that it sits on a fiber route might keep it functioning as a fiber regeneration station. I gather from reading American Tower's SEC filings that not all of the site buildings are being sold along with the towers. I guess it's true that if you get rid of something, some person will become nostalgic about "the good old days." I wouldn't give up my fiber for anything, but I thought TD readers might like to briefly remember the Long Lines Microwave days, before they are gone for good. The few sites I have photographed are reached via the URL: http://www.stillyoung.com/towers.html In many cases, these towers were impressive pieces of engineering, more than just a communications tower. In any case, these towers were built to stitch together the telephone patchwork of a nation, and they served us well. They have done so for 40 years. Thanks, Daryl "As you ramble through life, brother, no matter what your goal, keep your eye upon the doughnut, and not upon the hole" --Dr. Murray Banks, quoting a menu ------------------------------ From: M. Verdier Subject: Re: CPP, ATM Surcharges Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 01:49:40 -0700 While ATM cell stream is presented to the SDH layer as an octet stream by an adaptation function that insert idle cells in the case of offered rate is not sufficient to fully load SDH channel. A special label value VPI=0 CVI=0 TPI=0 and CLP=0. Question is how to avoid a malicious user to compromise the net by inserting particular sequences in the information field. On the other hand how a new class of access drive the core network architecture... Tkss. ------------------------------ From: Bob Subject: Digital Ans. Machine w/quality sound Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:07:34 -0400 Organization: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) Is there any Digital Answering "machine" out there with quality sound for the greeting and message? I need a single and also perhaps another dual line machine for a SOHO environment. I've tried several machines and either the sound quality of the greeting is poor and/or the quality of the message recording is poor. I don't mind paying a little more so long as I can get quality sound. I have a couple of AT&T dual line machines that originally sounded good but have lost most of their quality over the year or two I've owned them I could use a single, dual, or single/dual with a built in phone ... or maybe even one four line system. However the businesses are very small and I need a reasonable price (not cheap, but reasonable). Any specific recommendation for machines with quality sound? Thanks, Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:07:56 -0500 From: Jay Grimaldi Subject: Re: Verixontal Marks End of 'Name That Domain' Contest That address is, indeed, the address for Arnold & Porter, a law firm. Don't know if they are BA's, but what a coincidence. Jay From: tbetz@panix.com (Tom Betz) > Quoth jay@west.net (Jay Hennigan) in : >> Registrant: >> WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZONSUCKS-DOM) >> 555 12ST NW >> D.C, WA 20004 >> US >> Domain Name: VERIZONSUCKS.COM > You'll probably find that Chris Wilson is a lawyer for Bell > Atlantic/GTE/Verizon. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:19:41 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Revenge On The Telemarketers Heard about this on "Marketplace" today < http://www.marketplace.org/archives/rundown/2000/04.10.html > Revenge On The Telemarketers Host David Brancaccio talks to Tom Mabe, jingle writer and seeker of revenge on telemarketers in the form of a new CD. For more information on Tom Mabe check out his website at http://www.4revenge.com/ . http://www.4revenge.com/album.html http://www.4revenge.com/forSale.html ------------------------------ From: Greg.Paksi@juge.com (Greg Paksi) Subject: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: 11 Apr 2000 02:48:18 GMT Organization: COMM Port OS/2 VMBBS 204.89.247.1 -=> rik.flor@abbott.com wrote to All <=- -=> about Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers on 10 Apr 00 07:35:56 <=- Try Advanced Call Center. It's free. With a little imagination it will do what you want. -greg ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #61 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Tue Apr 11 15:58:46 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15469; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:58:46 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004111958.PAA15469@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #62 TELECOM Digest Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:58:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 62 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson A Hundred Years of Radio (Donald Kimberlin) Re: Wierd Call (Andy Berry) Re: Protecting Ourselves ... Dialing Plan Configuration (R. Hardin) Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted (L. Winson) Re: Digital Signatures For French Hybrid Mail Documents (Paul Wallich) Re: Toll Free Recommendations? (Please) (Judith Oppenheimer) Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound (Bob) Digest Number 1 (tollfree-l@egroups.com) Looking For an Old Teletype (Bob Rankin) Yacking Yourself to Death? (Mike Pollock) Spamming Moves to Cell Phones (The Old Bear) Some Countries Seek Keys to Digital Code-Scramblers (Monty Solomon) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. Contact information: Patrick Townson/TELECOM Digest Post Office Box 259 Independence, KS 67301 Phone: 805-545-5115 Email: editor@telecom-digest.org Subscribe/unsubscribe: subscriptions@telecom-digest.org This Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal about telecomm- unications on the Internet, having been founded in August, 1981 and published continuously since then. Our archives are available for your review/research. We believe we are the second oldest e-zine/ mailing list on the internet in any category! URL information: http://telecom-digest.org Anonymous FTP: hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives (or use our mirror site: ftp.epix.net/pub/telecom-archives) Email <==> FTP: telecom-archives@telecom-digest.org Send a simple, one line note to that automated address for a help file on how to use the automatic retrieval system for archives files. You can get desired files in email. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from * * Judith Oppenheimer, President of ICB Inc. and purveyor of accurate * * 800 & Dot Com News, Intelligence, Analysis, and Consulting. * * http://ICBTollFree.com, http://1800TheExpert.com * * Views expressed herein should not be construed as representing * * views of Judith Oppenheimer or ICB Inc. * ************************************************************************* ICB Toll Free News. Contact information is not sold, rented or leased. Access to Premium (P) links requires upgrade to a paid subscription. One click a day feeds a person a meal. Go to http://www.thehungersite.com Only subscribers or registered users of ICB Toll Free News web site will be able to access all or some of the full text of URLs provided. Copyright 2000 ICB, Inc. and TELECOM Digest. All rights reserved. Our attorney is Bill Levant, of Blue Bell, PA. In addition, a gift from Mike Sandman, Chicago's Telecom Expert has enabled me to replace some obsolete computer equipment and enter the 21st century sort of on schedule. His mail order telephone parts/supplies service based in the Chicago area has been widely recognized by Digest readers as a reliable and very inexpensive source of telecom-related equipment. Please request a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:16:29 EDT Subject: A Hundred Years of Radio From: Donald E. Kimberlin (Republished here with permission from the Editor of NARTE News. For further republication permissions, contact narte@narte.org) Jurassic Communications - Part II The Global Influences Leading Up To Marconi's "Lucky 7's" Patent By: Donald E. Kimberlin (As published in NARTE News, Volume 17 Number 3, October, 1999) This is the second of an ongoing series under the generic title of "Jurassic Telecommunications." In its various articles, one can see that the modes of electronic communications so taken for granted today are really largely late Victorian technologies first realized in an era before electronics; one in which there was no amplification, no frequency conversion and only battery power. Considering that, it's really amazing that the pioneers accomplished what they did. Most technologies begin as a method in search of a problem, and communication by radio is no exception. For most of the half-century following successful use and expansion of the electric telegraph, a number of experimenters added contributions to radio. Some even seem to have had useful radio in their grasp, only to let it lie fallow. It finally all came together in April 1900 with 26-year-old Guglielmo Marconi's British patent 7777. Up to that time, American dentist Mahlon Loomis had demonstrated in 1865 that an electrical disturbance could be caused in a kite-flown "aerial wire" by opening and closing the circuit of another kite-flown "aerial wire" at a distance of 18 miles between mountain tops in Virginia. He even obtained a U.S. patent (issued in 1872) indicating it might be used for "telegraphy," but never obtained funding to back further development, in all likelihood because the then-powerful Western Union Telegraph Company had a number of other, nearer-term technological fish to fry, not the least of were both transcontinental and transatlantic telegraph businesses in addition to a burgeoning domestic telegraph network. Loomis died a broken and bitter man. Karl Braun in Germany discovered "one-way conduction" in metal sulfide crystals in 1874, but the applicability of this phenomenon to detecting radio signals was not to be thought of for several decades in the future. Based on taking up a prize challenge in 1879, German physicist Heinrich Hertz demonstrated in 1887 and 1888 transmission of electromagnetic waves indoors across university lecture halls, showing students that invisible waves that propagated much like light did indeed exist. Since Hertz' laboratory demonstration devices consisted simply of spark gaps in metallic rings resonant at around 150 MHz, with no amplification, he could show and announced the contention that whatever was being transmitted, it had no commercial potential. Although a young man, Hertz unfortunately died at age 36, just before he might have seen others adding to his work and leading toward everyday uses. Edouard Branly in France started work to study nerve conduction in 1885. His need for a sensitive electrical detector resulted in the Branly Coherer, a tube of loosely packed metal filings that would clump together when a weak current flowed through it. The coherer, adopted and modified by others became radio's first practical signal detector. William Crookes suggested in 1892 that electromagnetic waves might be used for wireless telegraphy, even though this was five years before J.J. Thompson would announce the existence of electrons. At the time, no one was interested. Oliver Lodge, an English professor at University College, Liverpool, independently achieved results similar to Hertz, publishing just a month after Hertz (which means we might have called radio waves "Lodgian waves") By 1894, Lodge was demonstrating transmission of electromagnetic waves through walls in London and later at Oxford University. Lodge added an important function to the Branly coherer: A mechanical "tikker" that randomized the filings in the coherer after each detection event. Ambrose Fleming, later to become a close associate of Marconi, was in the audience and later wrote he had seen Lodge transmit alphabetic characters using the Morse telegraphic code; letters that formed intelligible messages. (The actual message content, regrettably, seems to have been lost.) Also, Lodge, in connection with related interests he had concerning the nature of lightning, had already defined basic properties of electromagnetic waves, showing that the period of a wave in a resonant circuit was equal to 2 pi LC. Lodge at the time stayed close to his profession of Professor of Experimental Physics, and thus had no interest in further developing his nascent "wireless telegraph." Although he has developed the concept of tuning a circuit, using the musical term "syntony," Lodge does not begin to exploit his discoveries until 1901, after Marconi has begun to use the concepts in practical wireless telegraphy. In the face of all this, Marconi's first knowledge of electromagnetic waves did not occur until 1894, when, as an unmatriculated protege of Professor Righi at Bologna, he reads about Hertz' demonstrations. Professor Righi was himself replicating and expanding on Hertz' work, but with even smaller loops than Hertz; loops that suggest Righi's waves had a frequency in the region of 3 gigaHertz, which would, of course, result in an even shorter transmission range than Hertz had shown. Marconi, well-to-do son of a Bologna merchant family, built his own experiments on the family estate and by 1895, succeeded in signaling over a distance of about 2 kilometers. Most exciting to him was that the signals traveled over a hilltop, between a transmitter and receiver that were out of sight of each other. At the time, and for some years later, many still contended that electromagnetic waves behaved exactly like light, implying a range no farther than line of sight. Marconi had to repeatedly demonstrate transmission beyond the optical horizon to a skeptical world. In Russia, Alexander Popov worked at improving the Branly coherer by selecting the material and size of filings, adding his own "tikker." Popov demonstrated detection of electromagnetic waves generated by lightning as much as 30 kilometers distant when connected to a lightning rod that was, of course, an antenna for the coherer. An academic like Lodge, even though he wrote that his apparatus might be used for signaling, Popov never developed the notion of sending messages to a complete fruition. By 1896, receiving no interest from the Italian government in his work, Marconi took his apparatus to England, where he could count on influence and land owned by relatives based on his family's connection to the Irish Jameson Whisky family. On his arrival in England, frightened customs inspectors smashed his machinery, fearing it to be part of an Italian anarchist plot. Fortunately, it is simple enough that it can be rebuilt without difficulty. Also in 1896, Nikola Tesla of Serbia, whose primary interest was electrical power transmission rather than communications, had developed a rotary arc transmitter and the notion of a vertical "aerial wire" as parts of a proposition to transmit electric power without wires. Although incomplete of Tesla's contribution at the moment, Marconi applied for British patents covering "wireless telegraphy," showing a clear purpose to transmit information by electromagnetic waves as the end purpose of his invention. By 1897, starting a barrage of experimentation and development that was to characterize the personality of both Marconi and his companies, Marconi demonstrated a range of first 7-1/2, then 14 kilometers. Based on that success, he founded his first English company, The Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company, Limited. Returning to Italy in the latter half of 1897, he demonstrated wireless telegraphy with ships 18 kilometers offshore and over the horizon. At the end of 1897, he was back in England showing that a station on the Isle of Wight could communicate with ships as much as 30 kilometers distant, By 1898, he opened a commercial wireless telegraph service to Rathlin O'Birne Lighthouse Island near the entrance to Donegal Bay in northwestern Ireland. On March 27, 1899, Marconi joined England to Europe with wireless telegraphy between his shore station at South Foreland Light and a station he built at Wimereux, 50 kilometers across the Channel. He was nearly in a position to compete with submarine telegraph cables across the Dover Strait that had been operating since 1851. The notion of competing with telegraph companies was obvious. By the summer of 1899, Marconi had finally waited out and overridden political obstacles in the Royal Navy and was invited to place his wireless on three naval ships during maneuvers. The range to his shore station ran as far as 160 kilometers, while ships could signal each other as far as 110 kilometers and occasionally as far as 136 kilometers. By this point, interference was becoming intolerable with no real tuning or band-limiting of emissions. Marconi had to get to work on employing some "syntony," which Lodge had patented in 1897. Marconi took "syntony" a step farther than Lodge, providing tuning at both the spark transmitter and the coherer receiver as part of his famous Patent 7777. This did not keep Lodge from later suing Marconi in 1910 and settling for cash in 1911 over patent infringements. However, in 1900, encouraged by his recent successes, Marconi told the board of his newly formed Marconi International Marine Communication Company" that he wanted to construct high-powered wireless transmitters to span the Atlantic Ocean. The result, as we all know, was the epochal transmission of the Morse letter "S" between Poldhu Point near Mullion on England's Lizard Peninsula and Heart's Content in Newfoundland on December 12, 1901. The details of that accomplishment, and those of several later starting parallel developers to Marconi, are stories for another time. What did happen by April 1900 was that Marconi uniquely had combined Professor Righi's transmitter, Branly's coherer, Tesla's elevated antenna and Lodge's tuned circuits to realize what ultimately became first wireless telegraphy, then speech, music, control tones and data transmission by radio. And, it's doubtful anyone with less financial resource, political influence and staying power than Marconi could have accomplished the progress he had made by the turn of the century. It's an appropriate time now to consider how far we have progressed in the 100 years since Marconi got it all together in 1900. Want to know more? Here are some websites with more detail on radio's earliest years: http://www.webcom.com/radioweb/educate/timeline.html http://wwwkoi.ptti.ru/eng/forum/article1.html http://home.luna.nl/~arjan-muil/radio/intune.html http://www.hal-pc.org/~bvarc/jan1996.htm http://www.engr.mun.ca/~gpeters/greats.html ------------------------------ From: Andy Berry Subject: Re: Wierd Call Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:21:51 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas From: mbusse@midway.uchicago.edu > The other day, I actually decided to call one of them back. The > number was (773) 847-8495. When you call it, it rings for a while, > then a recorded voice says "Thank you." > Does anyone have any idea what the heck this might be? It sound like the old Intellicall 3003 COCOTs I used to work with. IIRC, the DTMF after the "Thank You" means it is a fairly old unit with a FSK modem. I don't remember exactly, but it was said that some other remote access devices use similar methods and tactics to avoid unwanted access. In any event, it is some type of device that spends most of its time dialing out, but needs to have someone dial-in at least occasionally. HTH, Andy B. ------------------------------ From: rhardin@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Protecting Ourselves ... Dialing Plan Configuration Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:32:55 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. In article , Jim Cheshire wrote: > I have searched the FAQs but could not find a listing on this topic. > We want to configure our dialing plan in our phone system to prevent > outbound calls being placed to NANP numbers that generate expensive > toll calling. For example, I have heard that some NANP numbers in the > Carribean operate like 900 numbers. When someone calls that number, > they are billed additional charges above and beyond the normal LD > rates. > Is there a list of NPA/NXX exchanges that should be configured as > restricted dialing destinations? Where can I find this information? > Thanks, > Jim Cheshire Call Accounting System vendors, particularly those who specialize in hotels, such as Xeta Technologies (www.xeta.com -- 800-845-9145), try to keep up to date lists of offending exchanges as well as 8YY numbers that actually forward to 900 number, generating huge charges. ------------------------------ From: lwinson@bbs.cpcn.com (L.Winson) Subject: Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted Date: 10 Apr 2000 22:46:26 GMT Organization: The PACSIBM SIG BBS >> two or more Numbering Plan Areas (The proper name for Area Codes.) When did this name change? In all published consumer literature I've seen the term "Area Code" remains in use. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: For *consumers* the term is 'area codes'. For telco use, the term is 'Numbering Plan Areas' and has been for many, many years. PAT] ------------------------------ From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) Subject: Re: Digital Signatures For French Hybrid Mail Documents Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:26:42 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC In article , Jean-Bernard Condat wrote: > The evolution of the WorldWideWeb has opened up new markets for all > aspects of business, including postal business. POSTEASY is the > lastest development in the Postal Hybrid Mail area. It incorporates to > a basic postal service, the last developments in web and postal > technologies. By this way, we can propose solutions well adapted to > the needs of each customer. Posibilities are larges, and the > advantages for the customers are numerous. On this market in > exponential growth, Posteasy is very well positioned, proposing a > complete offer, endowed to a total securisation system. > Beyond a Web-based Hybrid Mail, Posteasy offers to act as Trust Third > Part. Henceforth for fax, e-mail, letter transmission, you can call > on POSTEASY's services. Whatever the communication support is, > Posteasy proposes to sequester and to archivate for life by a usher, > in a secure system control, the content of its communication. > Constantly, the integrity of the documents is preserved, and its > juridical value irrefutable. I wonder how many companies, especially given the current atmosphere of commercial intelligence gathering, will be willing to have their mail permanently stored by a third party, not to mention delivering it to the third party via web. Assuming that governmental aversion to anything that smacks of crypography can be overcome, wouldn't it be much better to use a system that simply archives message hashes? Given the proper software verification, you should have the same evidentiary value with much less risk. paul ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer" Subject: RE: TELECOM Digest V20 #60 Toll Free Recommendations? (Please) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:57:36 -0400 V. - Re shared-use - call me. Re co-marketing vanity numbers, what exactly do you mean? Assigning *subscriber* status to another subscriber entity (call center, ad agency, etc.) can be incredibly risky. Assigning RespOrg status to a *known* entity can be even riskier! Most of the projects we see where there is a "problem" RespOrg, involve large RespOrgs, not smaller ones. In fact, given the conflict of interest inherent in a company being both a carrier and a RespOrg, I usually steer my clients to smaller independent RespOrgs, preferring that their carrier and their RespOrg be two separate companies. That, along with keeping subscriber status in your name, is how you protect your interests. Judith Oppenheimer ICB Consulting 212 684-7210 From: VDonatelli@aol.com > Could anyone please tell me of a good IXC company (and contact name?) > for setting up a toll free "shared usage" program? I am planning to > use only NPA routing, nothing fancy. There would need to be > re-billing capabilities, direct access to change routing tables, no > fee per each terminating location, and decent pricing. Above all > else, reliability and trustworthiness are paramount. > The big guys have the capabilities, but I have had no luck trying to > find anyone within those organizations that have any knowledge about > setting up a shared usage program, or that could give a damn about > getting my business without some sort of huge volume commitment. > Secondly, does anyone know about, or have experience with, any of the > companies that have set themselves out as being in business to > co-market vanity numbers? It seems that assigning resporg status to > an unknown entity could be a very risky thing to do. Or am I being > paranoid? > I look forward and appreciate your responses. Many thanks in advance! V. Donatelli Vdonatelli@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Bob Subject: Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:47:19 -0400 Organization: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) Is there any Digital Answering "machine" out there with quality sound for the greeting and message recording? I need a single and also perhaps another dual line machine for a SOHO environment. I've tried several machines and either the sound quality of the greeting is poor and/or the quality of the message recording is poor. I don't mind paying a little more so long as I can get quality sound. I have a couple of AT&T dual line machines that originally sounded good but have lost most of their quality over the year or two I've owned them. I could use a single, dual, or single/dual with a built in phone...or maybe even one 4 line system. However the businesses are very small and I need a reasonable price (not cheap, but reasonable). Any specific recommendation for machines with quality sound? Thanks, Bob ------------------------------ Date: 11 Apr 2000 11:57:23 -0000 From: tollfree-l@egroups.com Reply-To: tollfree-l@egroups.com Subject: Digest Number 1 http://click.egroups.com/1/2936/1/_/12331/_/955454244/ TOLLFREE-L is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Judith Oppenheimer, publisher of ICB Toll Free News (http://icbtollfree.com) & WhoSells800.com (http://whosells800.com), and President of ICB Toll Free Consultancy (http://800consulting.com). There are 2 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. a few 800 & SMS questions From: "Judith Oppenheimer" 2. Re: a few 800 & SMS questions From: nbjimweiss@aol.com Message: 1 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:03:45 -0400 From: "Judith Oppenheimer" Subject: a few 800 & SMS questions 1. I recall reading somewhere early on, that 800 portability could not be withheld for billing disputes. I know that SNAC has gone back and forth on this, rewording various 'reject' codes ("unsatisfactory relationship" and the like") - but can anyone offer a Tariff or Guideline citation for prohibition against rejecting ports for billing disputes? 2. Does anyone have familiarity with the "Future Date" pending code in an SMS record, I believe one screen before the CADD screen? What is it and how does it work? 3. The RespOrg acts as agent for the end-user subscriber into the SMS/800 database. And FCC Regs state that where a reseller is the RespOrg's customer, the reseller's customers are the end-user subscribers of record, not the reseller. So, where a reseller is denied portability, what is the RespOrg's liability in denying the end-user subscribers their right to portability? Where a carrier disconnects reseller-sold service for payment dispute, what is its RespOrg entity's agency obligation to the end user subscribers of the reseller? TIA - Judith Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:28:47 EDT From: nbjimweiss@aol.com Subject: Re: a few 800 & SMS questions In a message dated 4/10/2000 11:49:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com writes: << 1. I recall reading somewhere early on, that 800 portability could not be withheld for billing disputes. I know that SNAC has gone back and forth on this, rewording various 'reject' codes ("unsatisfactory relationship" and the like") - but can anyone offer a Tariff or Guideline citation for prohibition against rejecting ports for billing disputes? >> My understanding is that it depends on the TARIFF wording of the carrier providing service. In some cases they specifically state that they will deny portability under certain criteria -- like past due billing. Jim Weiss Network Brokers, Inc. Providing Long Distance Services for Less nbjimweiss@aol.com networkbrokers@iname.com 305-252-1822; fax: 603-250-0817 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:37:46 -0400 From: Bob Rankin Subject: Looking For an Old Teletype I'm on a quest, looking for an old Teletype Model 33, used in the early 1970's as a computer terminal. Would you have any idea where to look? Regards, Bob Rankin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:47:43 PDT From: Mike Pollock Subject: Yacking Yourself to Death? Research publication says many hands-free devices may actually raise the amount of radiation being directed into the head. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2523696,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:50:09 -0400 From: The Old Bear Subject: Spamming Moves to Cell Phones As summarized in NewsScan, 4/11/00 ... Spammers have started using the text-messaging services on some cell phones to send unsolicited messages, probably by simply trying consecutive numbers until they find valid ones. An executive of a company called Plugout.com, which sends unsolicited text messages about its products, says: "What better way to reach your target market? [The company sells cell phone accessories.] We look at it as if we're doing these people a favor if they're looking for these kinds of products." One irate AT&T Wireless customer replied: "Clearly the sender knows it's going to interrupt somebody's day... They're not doing me any favors by soliciting me over my cell phone." summarized from: Washington Post (11 Apr 2000) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/business/A51301-2000Apr10.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:12:32 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Some Countries Seek Keys to Digital Code-Scramblers By JERI CLAUSING WASHINGTON -- Governments around the world are relaxing their controls on the technology used to scramble computer communications and keep them secure. But according to a survey to be released Monday, that trend is coupled with attempts by law enforcement authorities to gain new surveillance powers. http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/04/biztech/articles/03cryp.html [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: From time to time here at the Digest, we provide passwords and names for the *New York Times* as a courtesy to people who would rather not be required to register. For quite a long time the name/password combination was cypherpunks/cypherpunks. Then one day, NYT took the name/password out of circulation. We've installed another one for use by the group: cypherpunks2000/cypherpunks I know it is a little long, but hopefully easy to remember. Enjoy your reading of the *New York Times*. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #62 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Wed Apr 12 00:45:03 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA03966; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:45:03 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004120445.AAA03966@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #63 ' TELECOM Digest Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:45:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 63 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 4/11 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Protecting Ourselves ... 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Judith Oppenheimer Subject: 4/11 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:32:27 -0400 ************************************************************************* ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES ************************************************************************* from ICB Toll Free News - Daily News and Intelligence covering the Political, Legal and Marketing Arenas of 800 and Dot Com. ************************************************************************* ARTICLE ACCESS CODE LEGEND ICB Toll Free News offers two valuable service options: F = Free - News and Features articles P = Premium - Unlimited Site Access including all Articles and Documents. ************************************************************************* SIDEBAR: Last week we noted that fewer than 1% of domain name registrants purchase 'cybersquatter'-level quantities of domain names. Also, that many of those high-volume registrants in that fewer-than-1% category, are trademark-owning large corporations. Which means the career 'cybersquatter' element so hysterically, repeatedly denounced by trademark owners in the press and to Congress and ICANN, is a mere fraction of that fewer-than-1% of people purchasing domain names. Milton Mueller, associate professor and director of the graduate program of telecommunications and network management at Syracuse University, adds: If you make some estimates you learn that UDRP'd domains constitute about .027 percent of the number of domains registered in any given week. That percentage can be expected to decline (unless, perhaps, the number of TLDs rises) because we are now dealing with names registered between 1994 and 1999, as well as names registered in the first 4 months of 2000. We repeat: The trademark lobby is getting far too much policy attention and preference, relative to a minimal and insignificant sliver of potential conflict that it can well afford to defend. ************************************************************************* ISSUE WATCH covers important matters pending resolution: currently, -- SMS/800 system performance problems -- delayed rollout of 866 and 855; -- ICANN plans for Famous Marks and new Top Level Domains; -- flaws in the Domain Dispute System. see http://www.icbtollfree.com/icbheadlns.cfm. ************************************************************************* HEADLINES FOR APRIL 11, 2000 F - TELLME DEMAND EXCEEDS CAPACITY After dialing the toll-free number into Tellme, callers will be able to surf the service by saying keywords such as "restaurants" to find and connect with any restaurant in the United States based on the establishment's name, cuisine type or location. Consumers can speak the keyword "traffic" to find the fastest route to work with traffic reports in major cities updated throughout the day. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1438 F - ARCH, PAGING NETWORK GET MERGER CLEARANCE Arch Communications Group agreed in November 1999 to acquire Paging Network in a stock deal designed to cut debt loads and avert bankruptcy-court proceedings for PageNet. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1439 P - EBAY.COM V. EBAY.CA Mr. Libbus said he received a letter from eBay demanding that he relinquish the domain name to the San Jose, Calif.-based company. He declined to co-operate, however, after discussing the issue with his lawyer. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1430 F - WAR DIALING: CELL PHONE 'SPAM' Configuration of cell phone text-message systems are a possible vulnerability: often customers automatically get an e-mail address consisting of their phone number followed by "@cellphoneco.net" All a spammer needs to do is run consecutive numbers, though service providers should be able to detect this "war dialing" approach and block the spammers' access. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1432 **************************************************advertisements********* convenient, flexible domestic toll-free ... robust, value-added ITFS: MCI WORLDCOM http://www.wcom.com/ 1-888-MCI-WCOM ************************************************************************* P.A.T.LIVE Personal Assistant Team manages your toll-free telephone number, fax, voice mail, pager, e-mail, Web -- and more! A division of ATG Technologies. http://www.atg-tech.com/ ************************************************************************* more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 11, 2000 F - WIRELESS SUBSCRIBERS UP 26% CTIA said the increase in wireless subscribers is the largest since the survey began in 1985. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1433 F - EU WANTS EXPEDITED .EU APPROVAL The Commission also raised questions about the fact that ICANN staff is dominated by U.S. personnel who lack the linguistic capabilities necessary for a truly international organization. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1434 F - SPEEDIER PHONES, SPEEDIER NET "We'll be able to take telephone signals, computer data, TV signals -- any type of signal you can think of -- put it on fiber optic, route it around the world with almost no optical signal loss, and accomplish this with infinite bandwidth. It has the potential of revolutionizing the way we all function." CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1428 F - SUPREME COURT GOES ONLINE The U.S. Supreme Court will have its own Internet Web site as of next Monday. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1429 ************************************************************************* >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< 800 & Domain Name Acquisition Management, Lost/Stolen 800 # Retrieval, Litigation Support, Regulatory Navigation, Correlating Domain Name & Trademark Matters. When success is the only option. >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< ************************************************************************* more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 11, 2000 F - 1 800 LAS FLORES GETS ITS OWN .COM "Since 1995 we've had a telephonic presence with 1-800-Lasflores and our Spanish speaking customer service representatives," said CEO Jim McCann in a statement. 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All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:07:36 -0700 From: Linc Madison Subject: Re: Protecting Ourselves ... Dialing Plan Configuration Jim Cheshire wrote in Vol 20 #57: > I have searched the FAQs but could not find a listing on this topic. > We want to configure our dialing plan in our phone system to prevent > outbound calls being placed to NANP numbers that generate expensive > toll calling. For example, I have heard that some NANP numbers in > the Carribean operate like 900 numbers. When someone calls that > number, they are billed additional charges above and beyond the > normal LD rates. > Is there a list of NPA/NXX exchanges that should be configured as > restricted dialing destinations? Where can I find this information? The issue of Carribean numbers having surcharges above and beyond the toll charge has never been substantiated, and is generally regarded as urban legend. The confusion likely arises because the regular toll charges to many of the islands are almost as high as 900 number charges -- over $1/minute in some cases, if you don't have any sort of international calling plan. In addition, you need to be careful about ordinary domestic numbers that are dialed with a prefix: 101xxxx - 1 - NPA - NXX-XXXX. (Most of the 101xxxx codes are advertised as 10-10-xxx, but there are also 101-5xxx and 101-6xxx codes for the same purpose.) You should also block all 500 and 533 numbers, 700, 900, and 976 plus any of its cousins in your state. However, you do not need to worry about pay-per-call prefixes outside your area (for instance, 212-540 if you live outside New York and the adjacent states). In general, those numbers only work within the home LATA. I keep a listing of known "telesleaze" numbers (not guaranteed for any purpose; it may contain both "false positives" and "false negatives"), as well as all North American area codes that are outside the U.S. and Canada, on my web site, The good news is that the list of non-US, non-Canadian area codes is unlikely to grow much. Several of the codes are less than 1% filled. Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * Telecom-at-LincMad.com North American Telephone Area Codes & Splits ------------------------------ From: John Willkie Subject: Re: Verizontal Marks End of 'Name That Domain' Contest Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:49:45 -0700 Chris Wilson is quite active in setting up domains. Notice AsteonCommunications and AsteonSucks... WILSON, CHRIS (VELOCENTRE2-DOM) VELOCENTRE.NET WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZONSUCKS-DOM) VERIZONSUCKS.COM WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONCOM-DOM) ASTEONCOM.COM WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARCALLINGCARD-DOM) MAJESTARCALLINGCARD.COM WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZEN2-DOM) VERIZEN.NET WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARPHONES2-DOM) MAJESTARPHONES.NET WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARWIRELESS3-DOM) MAJESTARWIRELESS.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEAN3-DOM) ASTEAN.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARMULTIMEDIA2-DOM) MAJESTARMULTIMEDIA.NET WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONCORP2-DOM) ASTEONCORP.NET WILSON, CHRIS (CANTHUS-DOM) CANTHUS.COM WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARPAGING-DOM) MAJESTARPAGING.COM WILSON, CHRIS (EQUIVERSECOM2-DOM) EQUIVERSECOM.NET WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTAR-TELECOM-DOM) MAJESTAR-TELECOM.COM WILSON, CHRIS (ALUVIO-DOM) ALUVIO.COM WILSON, CHRIS (INQUTEL3-DOM) INQUTEL.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONTEL2-DOM) ASTEONTEL.NET WILSON, CHRIS (INQUTEL-DOM) INQUTEL.COM WILSON, CHRIS (IN-QU-TEL2-DOM) IN-QU-TEL.NET WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEON-CORP3-DOM) ASTEON-CORP.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (EQUI-VERSE2-DOM) EQUI-VERSE.NET WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONSUCKS3-DOM) ASTEONSUCKS.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEON-COMMUNICATIONS2-DOM) ASTEON-COMMUNICATIONS.NET WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEON-INC3-DOM) ASTEON-INC.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARMULTIMEDIA-DOM) MAJESTARMULTIMEDIA.COM WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONWIRELESS3-DOM) ASTEONWIRELESS.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZON2-DOM) VERIZON.NET WILSON, CHRIS (INQTEL3-DOM) INQTEL.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (GALVANCE2-DOM) GALVANCE.NET WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARWORLDWIDE-DOM) MAJESTARWORLDWIDE.COM WILSON, CHRIS (IN-QU-TEL-DOM) IN-QU-TEL.COM WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONINCORPORATED3-DOM) ASTEONINCORPORATED.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (VALLURE2-DOM) VALLURE.NET WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONINCORPORATED2-DOM) ASTEONINCORPORATED.NET WILSON, CHRIS (CONCARTA2-DOM) CONCARTA.NET WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONCORP3-DOM) ASTEONCORP.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (VERIZAN-DOM) VERIZAN.COM WILSON, CHRIS (EQUI-VERSE-DOM) EQUI-VERSE.COM WILSON, CHRIS (BGTELECOM3-DOM) BGTELECOM.ORG WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARCALLINGCARD2-DOM) MAJESTARCALLINGCARD.NET WILSON, CHRIS (NDOCS-DOM) NDOCS.COM WILSON, CHRIS (GALVENT2-DOM) GALVENT.NET WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONTELECOM-DOM) ASTEONTELECOM.COM WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONINCORPORATED-DOM) ASTEONINCORPORATED.COM WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEON-INC-DOM) ASTEON-INC.COM WILSON, CHRIS (CALADE-DOM) CALADE.COM WILSON, CHRIS (CROSS-SPHERE-DOM) CROSS-SPHERE.COM WILSON, CHRIS (INQTELSUCKS-DOM) INQTELSUCKS.COM WILSON, CHRIS (MAJESTARINCORPORATED-DOM) MAJESTARINCORPORATED.COM WILSON, CHRIS (ASTEONCOMMUNICATIONS3-DOM) ASTEONCOMMUNICATIONS.ORG could be more, the listing stopped after 50 -- ------------------------------ From: siegman@stanford.edu (A. E. Siegman) Subject: Re: Microwave Towers Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:00:05 -0700 Organization: Stanford University In article , Daryl Gibson wrote: [re microwave towers] > In many cases, these towers were impressive pieces of engineering, > more than just a communications tower. In any case, these towers were > built to stitch together the telephone patchwork of a nation, and they > served us well. They have done so for 40 years. As an addendum to this message (and thanks much for it!), some of the tower components did other impressive things as well. The "sugarscoop" antennas on these towers are shaped that way because this gives them extremely small back lobes, and also extremely small losses, compared to other designs. As a result, Bell Labs adapted this antenna design for the Project Echo experiments around 1961 (remember Project Echo? -- predecessor of satellite communications, involving detection of microwaves passively reflected from an inflatable metal-coated mylar balloon -- you could easily see it by its reflected light when it passed overhead at night.) The preamplifier in front of the microwave receiver in the experiments was the newly developed, cryogenically cooled microwave solid-state maser (microwave predecessor of the laser), with an effective amplifier noise temperature or equivalent input noise temperature of around 10 K. The rule of thumb for this kind of system is that every tenth of dB of room-temperature (300 K) loss in front of the amplifier adds 7 K of additional thermal noise at the amplifier input, so the extremely low loss of the sugarscoop design with its direct feed to the maser amplifier was critical. In addition, with the antenna looking more or less straight up, pickup from back lobes would have brought in noise from the 300 K ground below the antenna. The maser engineers who built the system were really good; they tracked down all the losses to minute fractions of a db;, measured the noise temp of the receiving system to excruciating accuracy; and found they had 3 K of equivalent input noise unaccounted for. They eventually realized this 3 K of noise was coming into the antenna from everywhere in the sky, and represented the residual microwave radiation from the "Big Bang" creation of the universe. As a result, Bell Labs director Arno Penzias and one or two others (Wilson?) ended up with a Nobel Prize. (Those who recall Grote Reber and his antennas back in the 1930s will note some resemblences.) Reference: Siegman (that's me), MICROWAVE SOLID-STATE MASERS (McGraw-Hill, 1964), Fig. 9-4, p. 458. ------------------------------ From: J.F. Mezei Subject: Re: Microwave Towers Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:33:43 -0400 Daryl Gibson wrote: > Many of you know that AT&T has been replacing the old Microwave > shots with fiberoptic. Canada's Yukon was linked to the "south" with a string of microwave towers, some of them perched above high mountains (with their own generators etc). I recently heard that they may be stringing fiber to Fort St-John (still in the "south"). I was wondering how long before fibre is strung all the way to Whitehorse? Or has it been strung there already? Considering the difficulties of dealing with permafrost (north of Whitehorse), does this preclude the laying of fibre in the north, or will it eventually get there? Is it fair to assume that microwave technology is "mature" and won't progress much more, or will there still be enough advances to allow Northwestel to upgrade its microwave network to keep up with increasing demand for bandwidth ? ------------------------------ From: J.F. Mezei Subject: Re: You've Got Inappropriate Mail Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:24:25 -0400 Paul Wallich wrote: > If you thought really long and carefully about the problem, you could > probably develop analysis tools and models that would give you an > accurate picture of when people were spending time on a page rather > than just having it open. But in your example of the AP page that has an automatic refresh on it, how could either side prove their points ? The employee can argue succesfully that by having it stay opened in the background, it still generates HTTP requests at regular intervals while the employee is doing productive work. But the company can also argue that the employee could have stared at the screen reading the headlines constantly. I have a feeling that a lot of legal/human resource folks are misinterpreting those proxy server logs because they do not truly understand how HTTP works. And employees who also do not fully understand how http works would not be able to properly defend themselves. However, in the cases I have heard so far, there were other indications that the employee was not productive, but it is still scrary to think that an employer will be misusing logs to fire an employee. (Although this is not as bad as Morgan Stanley hiring a private-eye to falsify an employee's records, and then charge the employee for a economic crime and have him sent to jail, instead of firing him for the real reason (because he had appeared naked in a magazine). (And this was done at the very high level in the bank). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:44:51 EDT From: itsamike@yahoo.com Subject: Tiny Tuvalu Cashes in on '.tv' Domains This message was forwarded to you from ZDNet (http://www.zdnet.com) by itsamike@yahoo.com. Tuvalu, a tiny South Pacific nation measuring 26 square kilometers, has sold the use of its domain name -- .tv -- to Idealab! in a deal that promises to garner Tuvalu more than three times its national budget. [TABLE NOT SHOWN] Under the terms of the agreement, the archipelago will receive $50 million over the next dozen years; the contract will be renegotiated in 2012. The Tuvalu islands have already garnered $15 million dollars from the deal, enough to transform the existence of a country where the annual budget tops out at $14 million per year. The per-capita revenue of the 10,600 residents is on its way to becoming one of the highest on the planet, up from an average of $400. [TABLE NOT SHOWN] In 1998, Tuvalu closed a deal with Canada's TV Corp., but that agreement fell through. The current deal is with Idealab! , a startup incubator based in Pasadena, Calif. One of its portfolio companies, dubbed DotTV, will auction off URLs ending in ".tv." Proposed addresses include letters of the alphabet (a.tv, b.tv, etc.) as well as names such as "pepsi.tv" and "marilynmonroe.tv." Galle Vacher reports for ZDNet France. Translation by Matthew Rothenberg, ZDNet News.[TABLE NOT SHOWN] ------------------------------ From: Daryl Gibson Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:25:07 -0600 Subject: Re: Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound > Is there any Digital Answering "machine" out there with > quality sound for the greeting and message? Most answering machines I have used (or own) have a microphone that is a piece of junk. When you record the greeting, you record through that junky microphone, and usually pick up a bunch of background noise. I've gotten much better messages by re-recording the message remotely (many machines offer this ability) from a phone at the office. Daryl "As you ramble through life, brother, no matter what your goal, keep your eye upon the doughnut, and not upon the hole" --Dr. Murray Banks, quoting a menu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:30:21 EDT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted Before 1995, there was a zip/area directory published by Pilot Books in Babylon, Long Island, NY. It might not be published anymore because there are so many area codes. ------------------------------ From: lwinson@bbs.cpcn.com (L. Winson) Subject: Re: Looking For an Old Teletype Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:16:36 GMT Organization: The PACSIBM SIG BBS > I'm on a quest, looking for an old Teletype Model 33, used in the > early 1970's as a computer terminal. Would you have any idea where to > look? Contact an organization that provides services for deaf people. They made extensive use of TTY machines. I think nowadays they've pretty much converted over to compact electronic devices (or computers). Note that some of the machines may be set up for Baudot (5 bit) instead of ASCII (8 bit). IIRC, the Teletype model 32 looked like a 33 but was a 3 row machine for Baudot use. ------------------------------ From: Roy Smith Subject: Re: Looking For an Old Teletype Organization: NYU School of Medicine, Educational Computing Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:21:19 -0400 Bob Rankin wrote: > I'm on a quest, looking for an old Teletype Model 33, used in the > early 1970's as a computer terminal. Would you have any idea where to > look? Scattered about the halls and back closets of any university, I would expect. I still see some of them around here. I wouldn't be surprised if more than one or two were actually still in service printing out data from some old piece of lab equipment! Roy Smith New York University School of Medicine [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And in many old-style phone rooms with multiple switchboard positions where they had a large volume of long distance calls requiring 'time and charges' to be quoted to the PBX operators, it was quite common to have all the 'time and charge' quotes come through on a teletype machine wired directly to the establishment from telco. That is what we had at University of Chicago when I worked there in the early 1960's: T&C for several thousand extensions came through every five or ten minutes on a teletype which was hardwired to the Illinois Bell central office at 61st and Kenwood Streets (when they used to have operators in that building on the second floor. The T&C quotes had the Illinois Bell ticket number, our ticket number, along with the number called and other details. We would rip these off as they came out of the machine and use them for our own bookeeping records. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #63 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Wed Apr 12 19:58:12 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA10482; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:58:12 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004122358.TAA10482@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #64 TELECOM Digest Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:58:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 64 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US (Ronda Hauben) DTMF Over TCP/IP (Alex Saveliev) Cuba to Allow Calls From U.S. (Michael A. Desmon) 7th International Conference Cities & Ports (AIVP - Info) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (Paul Rubin) More Cops on the Net Beat? 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rh120@columbia.edu (Ronda Hauben) Subject: Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US Date: 12 Apr 2000 12:11:13 GMT Organization: Columbia University Reply-To: rh120@columbia.edu Daniel Seyb (seybernetx@ameritech.net) wrote: (...) > And The Telephone Company has always been a money making operation. If > they ever actually lost money on any product, they just raised the rates > to make it up. What do they care if you're happy or not? But they were obligated to meet certain standards. And they were obligated to maintain a high level of technology which led to upgrades like the 5ESS switches and the development of UNIX. The Bell system was regulated and Bell Labs was a research laboratory maintained to meet the obligations of that regulation. Now the obligations for service are gone. And there is no one to complain too. Just lots of phone calls from sales people from these supposedly "competitive" companies. But the point is you don't know what fees they have for whom. They tell you what price they have for you. That is very far any "competitive" situation. And the money they are making from the windfall to folks in the US they are taking elsewhere rather than investing in new technology to give better service. dan > "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" wrote: (...) > The pattern is clear. Whereas the US used to have the best phone > service in the world, service has been declining raapidly and steadily > for over a decade. I think it's because we've decided that telco's > should be money-making businesses, instead of services provided to > citizens. And so we've seen a minor reduction in costs (but look how > expensive out-of-state directory info is!) but an unacceptible drop in > service. I agree. And it is helpful to see this being acknowledged and discussed. Who made the decision to break up AT&T and on what basis? It wasn't the public. The public interest was left out of the process. And isn't that what is happening in general now in the US? In the past there was the realization that those with a commercial self interest could not be relied on to determine what the public interest was in a situation. That is why government needed to hear from those without a commercial self interest. Now it is only those with a commercial self interest that at least in the US, the government is interested in hearing from. Those with a commercial self interest are considered to be the "stakeholders" who have to be determining what happens. That is a reversal of the role of government. This is a serious deterioration in how decisions are made and whose interest will be served. There is a long term interest that needs to be considered and that is what government can make possible. But that is not happening in the US under the current pressures. The 1996 Telecom law was rammed through the US Congress without most of those in Congress who were voting on it even knowing what it said. The telecom interests had their day, and the public interest was sacrificed. How does one change this? In front of my apartment building in NYC, someone is digging a large hole and putting in something. I asked who it was and was told Sprint. The other infrastructure lines will be under the new lines being put in. It isn't that companies can just compete and all can't dig holes and put in lines. They are digging up the public street and thus there has to be some regulation on what they are doing. That regulation has broken down and it is therefore that thee whole infrastructure of NYC is jeopardized by this breakdown. Ronda ronda@panix.com Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook also in print edition ISBN 0-8186-7706-6 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ronda, we have gone through this so many times here, I guess one more time won't hurt. The decision to bust up the phone company (AT&T) in the early 1980's was made by a federal judge -- Judge Greene -- who one day lost ten cents in a payphone booth, went away angry feeling damned and detirminined to 'break up Bell' no matter what the cost, then proceeded to meet with his cronies in the Justice Department and let them know they would find a hospitable welcome in his courtroom. Some in Justice wanted to break up Bell also. Remember that in the 1960-70's there was a general attitude of discontentment where the Bell System was concerned. A large number of people seemed to hate Ma Bell, and were happy to see her destroyed. Judge Greene served as the catalyst. The judge's supporters here in this newsgroup going back to the early/middle 1980's are prompt to remind me and whoever wants to listen that Bell agreed to divestiture, but the fact is, if you had a knife stuck in your back you would agree to most anything yourself. Bell agreed to divestiture because there was little they could do about it, and the cost of fighting it was increasing all the time. Even though it was a civil matter, AT&T asked for a jury trial which was their right. The judge refused to give them one, claiming that no one could 'possibly' understand all the technical details; no one but himself of course, and Justice Department lawyers. As it was, Judge Greene had his calendar cleared out and did nothing but hear that case for about three years. The same trick was going to be done to IBM in the same time era as you may recall. But IBM would have none of it. Their response was to bury the court in so much paper that for a year afterward, the court was sitting there trying to sift through it all. Every day, it seemed, semi-trailer trucks would pull up to the court's receiving room to drop off the latest ten thousand page exhibit. Always, ten copies of each had to be delivered; a couple copies for the court, one copy for the court reporter, one for each attorney, etc. If AT&T had used the IBM tactic to stall, Bell would still be in one piece the way IBM is. Judge Greene did Americans a great disservice by screwing around with the phone company. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Alex Saveliev Subject: DTMF Over TCP/IP Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:48:42 +0400 Hello! Could anybody point out how DTMF signals are transported over TCP/IP network in IP telephony application? What we want is a computer calling someone in PSTN (say, by means of NetMeeting API ) via an IP telephony gateway (say, Dialogic based). The callee then generates tones, pressing buttons on his phone. How these short tones get to our computer over a packet network? Is there a standart for it? If there is, then should I use Netmeeting API, TAPI or something else to get these tones? I know that Dialogic boards themselves can be programmed easily to handle DTMF, but the problem is that we don't have our own IPtel gateway and are planning to subscribe for gatewaying services. And IP telephony providers seem not to allow any additional apps hosted on their gateways. (If someone knows provider allowing user programs to be executed, please let me know). Please help. Thanks in advance, Alex Saveliev ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:51:18 EDT From: Michael A. Desmon Subject: Cuba to Allow Calls From U.S. Published Wednesday, April 12, 2000, in the Miami Herald Cuba to allow calls from U.S. Relatives will still seek award BY JUAN O. TAMAYO jtamayo@herald.com The change may make it slightly easier to call Cuba, but will not significantly improve the quality or lower the cost of the calls. Cuba will resume permitting direct U.S.-Cuba telephone calls, starting early today, after relatives of three Brothers to the Rescue pilots killed in 1996 stopped blocking U.S. phone payments to Havana. The dispute had cut off direct calls for 14 months. ``Slowly and in accordance with its technical-organizational abilities, the ETECSA [telephone] company will proceed to reestablish the circuits blocked for lack of payment, Cuba's Granma newspaper reported Tuesday. The change may make it slightly easier to call Cuba, but will not significantly improve the quality or lower the cost of the calls, or end the bitter legal struggle to make Cuba pay for killing the Miami aviators. ``To the consumer, it should not mean any significant change," said Enrique Lopez, whose Coral Gables telecommunications consulting firm has worked on several U.S.-Cuba telephone issues. ETECSA officials informed U.S. telephone carriers that it would allow direct-dial calls again as of midnight Tuesday, though the process could take up to 48 hours to complete, an AT&T official said. A joint Italian-Cuban venture, ETECSA cut off nearly all direct calls to and from the United States on Feb. 24, 1999, after a U.S. judge in Miami garnished about $6 million owed to Havana by five U.S. telephone carriers. Few callers noticed a change because AT&T, MCI, LDDS, IDB and WilTel, which run most of the 1,020 circuits connecting Cuba and the United States, swiftly rerouted calls through third countries such as Canada and Mexico. Rates on U.S. telephone calls to Cuba, ranging from a low of 62 U.S. cents per minute to as high as $3, did not rise after the shift to indirect calls and will not drop with the change back to direct calls. ``AT&T was sometimes losing money because of rerouting, but chose to keep its rates steady to keep its consumer cases," an industry official said. Sprint, which operates 120 U.S.-Cuba circuits, most of them devoted to data transfer, was never served with garnishment papers. It paid its bills to Havana and continued to route calls directly to Cuba during the past 14 months. U.S. Judge James Lawrence King initially blocked the phone payments to ETECSA as part of his $187 million award against the Cuban government for the fatal downing of the Brothers to the Rescue pilots in 1996 by Cuban air force jets. But a federal appeals court in Atlanta overruled his order in August, saying that ETECSA was not part of the Cuban government. Miami lawyers dropped the last of the motions in the case against ETECSA on March 14. ``That allowed the U.S. firms to pay their pending debts," Granma reported Tuesday. Attorney Ron Kleinman stressed, however, that relatives of the dead pilots have not given up on their fight to collect on King's ruling. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:09:56 +0200 From: AIVP - Info Subject: 7th International Conference Cities & Ports 7th International Conference Cities & Ports 7e Conference Internationale Villes & Ports 6-9 November 2000 Marseille (France) Urban and port development authorities for coastal and river cities from throughout the entire world will be meeting in Marseilles (France), from the 6th to the 9th of November next, for the 7th Cities and Ports (IACP) International Conference. More than 500 delegates representing the port cities of more than 50 countries are expected in Marseilles to debate and exchange views regarding the implementation of sustainable development in port areas. This challenge is of interest to you? This meeting concerns you? 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Nous vous proposons, sans aucun engagement de votre part, de vous tenir inform gratuitement de l'volution du programme de cette confrence > en envoyant un message : listefr.conference@aivp.net avec le mot SUBSCRIBE en objet (mailto:listefr.conference@aivp.net?subject=SUBSCRIBE) >ou par notre site web : http://www.aivp.com/7conf/form.asp ------------------------------ From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: 12 Apr 2000 07:57:32 GMT Organization: NETCOM / MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. In article , Riklef Flor wrote: > I have another simple, free way of stopping telemarketers that I > haven't seen mentioned before. > It's a variation of the "Not Saying Hello" method. > When I answer the phone and say "Hello" ... if I don't hear an > immediate response, I hang up. Invariably, it turns out to be a > predictive dialer hunting for an open line. > I've only been "wrong" once and that was my wife, who uses the same trick. This isn't good. I often call people on my speaker phone. When and if they answer, I switch from the speaker to the handset, which causes a slight pause. My speaker phone doesn't have a microphone (except the one in the handset), so until I switch, the person can't hear me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:00:48 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: More Cops on the Net Beat? Privacy Groups Say Not So Fast U.S. law enforcement officials want to beef up surveillance, but critics say laws are too lax to prevent abuses. By Keith Perine WASHINGTON - With federal authorities preparing to conduct broad new surveillance of the Internet, privacy advocates and members of Congress are sounding the alarm about the potential trampling of constitutional rights. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/1,1151,13908,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:15 EDT From: Fred Atkinson Organization: Personal Copy Subject: Re: Tiny Tuvalu Cashes in on '.tv' Domains Pat, Regarding the above referenced story, all someone offered me for my domain (which I'm not interested in selling, by the way) was three thousand. Gee....... . Fred [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have not been offered five cents for all my domain names put together. The only exception was topica, which offered me a dollar for each name on my mailing list, which I turned down. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:20:20 -0400 From: John Stahl Subject: Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted I have found that the DeLorme map program, Street Atlas (the latest version available I believe is Version 7.0), is a great 'database' for precisely the "codes" you require. Dropping down the "Find" box allows entry of either code. The result is a precise map of the geographic area covered by that "code". John Stahl Aljon Enterprises Telecom/Data Consultancy email: aljon@(big)att.net - NOTE: Take out the (big) to send email ------------------------------ From: M Pfeifer Subject: Suche Bedienungsanleitung fr Olympia Quadrophone Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:17:09 +0200 Organization: T-Online [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I hope someone will read this to me, and I hope I did not get spammed. PAT] Hallo, Wer Kann Helfen Ich suche für das Quadrophone (telefon Anrufbeantworter und Fax mit thermopapier) Eine Bedienungsanleitung wer Hat solch eine oder Kann mir sagen Wo mann diese bekommen kann habe schon im netz nach Olympia gesucht aber leider nicht weitergefunden Gruss Euer Murmel M. Pfeifer 27570 Bremerhaven Http://www.mpfeifer.de Mail: murmel@mpfeifer.de [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It looks to me like the person is writing about a fax machine and copy paper. I hope this is not the outfit that sells fax and copy machines on the net who are forever sending out spam. Can someone please advise? PAT] ------------------------------ From: rickblum@my-deja.com Subject: Convergence Survey - Win $100 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:03:55 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. You are invited to participate in Lucent NetworkCares latest web-based industry survey on Convergence and New World Service Providers. 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Thank you for your time and support. ------------------------------ From: JF Mezei Reply-To: jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca Subject: Re: Microwave Towers Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:10:36 -0400 John R. Levine wrote: > Permafrost is certainly an issue, but you can after all put it on > poles, just like wire, if you need to. There aren't any poles that link the south with Whitehorse, not since the old telegraph line was abandoned. Would planting poles over about one thousand kilometres, and maintaining it (cutting trees/branches that may fall and break the wire) still cost less than maintaining the microwave towers that are there right now? Considering that the road must be rebuilt every couple of years (especially on the BC side becausd they build the northern roads to lesser standards), would running the fiber underground near the road be practical? > I can only see microwave being of use in places where running fiber is > impractical Correct. In Australia, they have strung fiber all around and across (literally) the country, and in most outback places, the wire is burried a mere few inches below ground level and there are not many trees to cut when you're crossing a desert. But in the case of northern BC and Yukon, I am wondering if the "impractical to run fibre" applies or not. Also, would it be practical to run undersea fibre from Vancouver to Skagway and then just run the fibre on the 170km to Whitehorse along the pipeline/railway? How is Alaska linked to the USA mainland? Are places just as Juneau linked by undersea fibre? Or do they also rely on microwaves? And what about towns just as Anchorage? (far, far away). ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #64 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Thu Apr 13 15:12:23 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA14541; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:12:23 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004131912.PAA14541@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #65 TELECOM Digest Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:10:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 65 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Pioneers in the News (Tad Cook) 4/12 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Suche Bedienungsanleitung fr Olympia Quadrophone (Lance Purple) Washington State Fines Qwest (Tad Cook) Cuba Resumes Phone Service to USA (Tad Cook) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (John Willkie) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Hundreds of telecom companies have come together to applaud and support this volunteerism by forming an alliance that will launch National Volunteer Week activities. Leaders of the Telephone Pioneers of America and the Independent Telecommunications Pioneer Association, the organizations that include these 700 companies, signed the alliance at the completion of the groups' first joint project in formal ceremonies at Garfield Elementary School in Washington, D.C., at 10 a.m., Monday, April 10, 2000. (Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990927/LAM039-b http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20000412/LAW031 ) Special guests at the event were the 400 students of Garfield Elementary school, the school's principal, Mrs. Evelyn Gainous; Pam Warwick, vice president for nonprofit outreach, Points of Light Foundation; and Mario Moreno, assistant secretary, U.S. Department of Education. Signing the two-year strategic alliance on behalf of their 826,000 members were Irene Chavira, president, Telephone Pioneers of America, and Vanessa Horning, president, Independent Telecommunications Pioneer Association. "Since the beginning of our industry in the late 1800s, telecommunications workers have been dedicated to service," said Chavira. "This intrinsic desire to serve others grew over the years to include many causes and societal needs. By giving of our time and talents, we work to make the communities, in which we live and work, stronger and healthier. It is fitting that we should celebrate the spirit of service of our volunteers and unite in our efforts to continue to serve our communities as we begin a new century," she added. "This is an historic occasion," said Horning. "This is the first time ever that an industry has come together in an alliance of this kind. While the more than 700 companies represented by our two organizations are very diverse, we have common ground. We are committed to work together in service to the communities in which we operate. With 826,000 members across North America, we can make a tremendous impact on improving education, the environment, services to the handicapped, the homeless, the indigent, and the elderly. The project that we completed today is a model for what we can accomplish across this country." In three days, Pioneers volunteers from both organizations worked together to paint a playground map on the grounds of Garfield Elementary School at 2435 Alabama Avenue. They also completed various other projects at the school requested by school officials, including painting an administrative office, the music room, restrooms, exterior doors, window grates, and hand rails, as well as campus clean-up and landscaping. "In addition to providing volunteer service to their communities, Telephone Pioneers are excellent in helping connect groups of people to achieve maximum results," said Pam Warwick, who heads up the Points of Light Foundation's Connect America initiative. "This project is a perfect example of their efforts to involve other groups from the community in the work they do. For the work here at Garfield Elementary School, they invited neighborhood associations, the Young Marines, school officials and other community leaders to participate with them in benefiting this neighborhood school. That is a mark of real leadership and is significant in helping to connect America." Assistant Secretary of Education Mario Moreno said that community support is vital in providing many of the resources that schools in America need to flourish and prosper. "With such projects as Playground Maps, Telephone Pioneers provide many of the tools that make learning more fun and interesting for school children," he said. "It is important that school children everywhere know that groups such as these invest their time and talents in ensuring students have the educational tools they need to succeed. With their work here, these volunteers are also indirectly teaching these students the value of volunteerism." The Telephone Pioneers of America, the world's largest volunteer organization is made up of approximately 800,000 members in the United States, Canada and Mexico. Its members are current and former employees of AT&T, Bell Atlantic, BellSouth, Cincinnati Bell, Frontier Communications Corporation, Island Telecom, Lucent Technologies, Manitoba Telecom Services, Maritime Telegraph and Telephone, NBTel, NewTel Enterprises, NorthwesTel, SaskTel, SBC Communications, Telcordia Technologies, TELUS, and U S WEST. The Independent Telecommunications Pioneer Association has 26,000 members who are active and retired employees representing over 700 independent telecommunications companies in the United States. ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Subject: 4/12 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:03:44 -0400 ************************************************************************* ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES ************************************************************************* from ICB Toll Free News - Daily News and Intelligence covering the Political, Legal and Marketing Arenas of 800 and Dot Com. ************************************************************************* Click Here to Subscribe to ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES http://www.icbtollfree.com/reg.cfm?NextURL=Index.cfm (Registration is required. 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All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: lpurple@netcom.com (Lance Purple) Subject: Re: Suche Bedienungsanleitung fr Olympia Quadrophone Date: 13 Apr 2000 01:05:45 GMT Organization: Mindspring/Netcom Online Services, Inc. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I hope someone will read this to me, > and I hope I did not get spammed. PAT] [ My translation attempt: ] "Seeking operating manual for Olympia Quadrophone" Hello, whoever can help: I seek operating instructions for a Quadrophone (answering machine and thermopaper fax machine). Does anybody have a set, or can tell me how to get one? I have already searched for Olympia on the web, but unfortunately did not find anything. Thanks from "Murmel" M. Pfeifer 27570 Bremerhaven Http://www.mpfeifer.de > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It looks to me like the person is > writing about a fax machine and copy paper. I hope this is not > the outfit that sells fax and copy machines on the net who are > forever sending out spam. Can someone please advise? PAT] ,--------------------------------------------, | Lance Purple (lpurple at netcom dot com) | '--------------------------------------------' ------------------------------ From: Tad Cook Subject: Washington State Fines Qwest Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:18:53 -0700 from MSNBC ( http://www.msnbc.com/local/KING/664118.asp?0a=2224132- ) Huge fine for payphone overcharges OLYMPIA, April 12 - A Denver-based company that overcharged thousands of customers at pay phones around Washington will pay a record $1 million fine and $700,000 in refunds under a deal approved Wednesday by state regulators. AN ESTIMATED 113,000 consumers should receive refunds or credits by April 30 from USLD Communications, Inc., according to the Washington Utilities and Transportation Commission. The refund will apply to calls made from 8,543 pay phones in Washington that used USLD operator-services between July 1 and Dec. 5 last year. The commission said it began investigating USLD, a subsidiary of Qwest Communications International, last year after logging 90 consumer complaints. Investigators concluded that USLD would tell customers that a call would cost $2 or $3 and then bill them for $10 or $15. It is a violation of state rules to charge rates different from those listed with the WUTC. "We believe what USLD did was particularly egregious," said Vicki Elliott, the WUTC's assistant director for consumer affairs. WUTC investigators were prepared to ask the commission to impose a $2 million fine if USLD did not settle, Elliott added. Qwest spokesman Matt Barkett said USLD officials failed to keep the company's rate schedule up to date. "All of that money has already been refunded to customers," he said, "and no Qwest customers were impacted by this USLD error." USLD was based in San Antonio, Texas, before it was acquired by LCI International in 1997, which then was acquired by Qwest in 1998, Barkett said. The company still provides operator-assisted calls at pay phones in Washington under the USLD name. The three-member WUTC said the $1 million penalty is the largest ever levied by the panel. The previous record was set in 1993 when the WUTC levied a $164,000 penalty against International Pacific Inc., which also provided operator-assisted service for pay phones. Besides the fine and refunds, the commission also ordered USLD to conform with Washington's consumer disclosure practices by giving pay-phone users easy access to a rate quote for a call before incurring a charge. USLD also agreed to underwrite the $15,000 cost of a new WUTC consumer education program targeting pay-phone users. The commission said it hopes to help consumers learn how to get rate information and dial around to a preferred company. The WUTC has a pay-phone inspection program that, until now, has mainly involved checking for proper advisories on the placards. As a result of the case, the WUTC expects to start making test calls from pay phones, Elliott said. Eligible consumers who have not received their refunds by April 30 can call the WUTC's consumer affairs division at 1-800-562-6150. ------------------------------ From: Tad Cook Subject: Cuba Resumes Phone Service to USA Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:35:59 -0700 Cuba to resume direct phone links to United States HAVANA (April 11, 2000 6:53 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Cuba announced Tuesday it will soon resume direct telephone links with the United States now that American companies have unfrozen $6.2 million in payments. Cuba's Communist Party daily Granma did not say exactly when the direct links would be re-established by the Cuban phone company Empresa de Telecomunicaciones de Cuba S.A., or ETECSA. The move was taken after a U.S. federal appeal court said relatives of three men shot down by Cuban jets cannot claim the money. The Cuban phone company stopped most direct service to the United States a year ago, after the men's relatives sued Cuba for damages and attempted to force the Cuban phone company to pay. The appeals court ruled that ETECSA is not a legal stand-in for the Cuban government and can't be fined in lieu of the government. The payments have been frozen since December 1998, awaiting a final ruling. Direct service was cut in February 1999. Since then, calls between Cuba and the United States have been rerouted largely through third countries, causing only minor disruptions to service. Two years ago, the families of three of four fliers killed on Feb. 24, 1996, won a $187 million judgment against Cuba and the Cuban Air Force. The families were unable to collect because the State Department objected and because President Clinton waived a new anti-terrorism law allowing the families to be paid using blocked Cuban funds. U.S. District Judge James Lawrence King ruled that Clinton could not waive the anti-terrorism law and awarded the families the $6.2 million. The largest payment was to have come from AT&T, more than $4.1 million. MCI International Inc. faced the second largest payment, about $1.05 million. The federal appeals court in Atlanta reversed King's decision last month. Four members of the Miami-based group exile group Brothers to the Rescue were searching for Cuban immigrants on rafts when Cuban MiGs shot down two planes in the Florida Straits that separate Cuba and the Florida Keys. Three men -- Armando Alejandre, 45; and pilots Carlos Costa, 29, and Mario de la Pena Jr., 24 -- were U.S. citizens, making their families eligible to sue under U.S. law. ------------------------------ From: John Willkie Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:05:48 -0700 Paul Rubin: phr@netcom.com wrote: > In article , Riklef Flor > wrote: >> When I answer the phone and say "Hello" ... if I don't hear an >> immediate response, I hang up. Invariably, it turns out to be a >> predictive dialer hunting for an open line. >> I've only been "wrong" once and that was my wife, who uses the same >> trick. > This isn't good. I often call people on my speaker phone. When and > if they answer, I switch from the speaker to the handset, which causes > a slight pause. My speaker phone doesn't have a microphone (except > the one in the handset), so until I switch, the person can't hear me. Actually, what isn't good Mr. Rubin, is your method of making telephone calls. If you want to be considered a telemarketer (or an attorney) continue to use your current method. I consider it arrogant. When I'm trying to sell to the person using such tactics, I raise my price by 20%. When they're trying to sell me, I will always "only pay" 20% less than they'll go. If you're going to bother someone with lifting up the handset on your beck and call, you should at least be able to talk immediately, with the hand set lifted. John Willkie jmwillkie@hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #65 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Thu Apr 13 23:22:22 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA04753; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:22:22 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004140322.XAA04753@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #66 TELECOM Digest Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:22:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 66 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Microwave Towers (Bart Z. Lederman) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (JAMac) Re: DTMF Over TCP/IP (Vladimir Bilik) Re: Protecting Ourselves ... Dialing Plan Configuration (Linc Madison) Re: Protecting Ourselves ... Dialing Plan Configuration (Geoff Dyer) Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US (Fred Goldstein) German Message Received (sdavis@sprint-canada.com) Re: DTMF Over TCP/IP (David Clayton) Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Gary Shapiro) Re: Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound (shawn) For Sale: Spirit 6 Button Sets (David Neal) Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted (L. Winson) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. 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Please request a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman) Subject: Re: Microwave Towers Date: 13 Apr 2000 16:21:22 GMT Organization: Personal Opinions Only Reply-To: lederman@eisner.decus.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.org In article , J.F. Mezei writes: > Is it fair to assume that microwave technology is "mature" and won't > progress much more, or will there still be enough advances to allow > Northwestel to upgrade its microwave network to keep up with > increasing demand for bandwidth ? Improvements in solid-state electronics that operate in this frequency range means that you could build microwave transmitters with more power and receivers that are more sensitive, so that the towers could be spaced further apart. I expect that antennas / horns have improved somewhat as well (easier to make more accurate reflector surfaces out of more weather resistant materials for less cost). Improvements in modulation techniques and digitization of all signals (including voice) means that you might get more effective communications bandwidth out of a given frequency band. However, the demand for broadcast spectrum at all frequencies means that there is increasing pressure to get everything off the air that can be moved to something else. The telephone companies might well find that the value of selling off their microwave frequency bands would be worth much more than trying to squeeze more bandwitdh out of their old microwave links: especially since the latter would require replacing most of the hardware (except for the actual towers themselves). The way things are going, fiber optic cables now have much more bandwidth than any single microwave link: and recent developments mean that fiber optic bandwidth is going to continue to increase, sometimes spectacularly. When you also take into account that a buried cable is much more resistant to the weather than any above-ground link could ever be, I doubt very much if it's worth upgrading a microwave link. B. Z. Lederman Personal Opinions Only Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing list of any kind. Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post. ------------------------------ From: JAMac Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:06:42 -0600 I find someone calling me from a speakerphone very irritating. If you don't want to set your recipient on a negative edge with you, I would pick up the handset when calling. Or dial the number with the speakerphone then pick up the handset before they answer your call. Paul Rubin wrote in message news:telecom20.64.5@telecom-digest.org: > In article , Riklef Flor > wrote: >> I have another simple, free way of stopping telemarketers that I >> haven't seen mentioned before. >> It's a variation of the "Not Saying Hello" method. >> When I answer the phone and say "Hello" ... if I don't hear an >> immediate response, I hang up. Invariably, it turns out to be a >> predictive dialer hunting for an open line. >> I've only been "wrong" once and that was my wife, who uses the same >> trick. > This isn't good. I often call people on my speaker phone. When and > if they answer, I switch from the speaker to the handset, which causes > a slight pause. My speaker phone doesn't have a microphone (except > the one in the handset), so until I switch, the person can't hear me. ------------------------------ From: Vladimir Bilik Subject: Re: DTMF Over TCP/IP Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:34:47 +0200 Organization: Slovak University of Technology, Dept. of Telecommunications Alex Saveliev wrote: > Hello! > Could anybody point out how DTMF signals are transported over TCP/IP > network in IP telephony application? What we want is a computer > calling someone in PSTN (say, by means of NetMeeting API ) via an IP > telephony gateway (say, Dialogic based). The callee then generates > tones, pressing buttons on his phone. How these short tones get to our > computer over a packet network? Is there a standart for it? If there > is, then should I use Netmeeting API, TAPI or something else to get > these tones? This function, sometimes called "DTMF relaying" (Cisco) is used in some H.323 devices/softwares. H.323 device use H.245 control protocol, which is capable detect and transfer DTMF signals of 0-9,* and #. I don't know if NetMeeting has programmed-in this function. Vladimir Bilik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 03:31:07 -0700 From: Linc Madison Subject: Re: Protecting Ourselves ... Dialing Plan Configuration rhardin@my-deja.com wrote in Vol 20 # 62: > Call Accounting System vendors, particularly those who specialize in > hotels, such as Xeta Technologies (www.xeta.com -- 800-845-9145), try > to keep up to date lists of offending exchanges as well as 8YY numbers > that actually forward to 900 number, generating huge charges. There are no 800/888/877 numbers that forward to 900 numbers generating huge charges. Such things did happen, but they have all been shut down because the practice is unambiguously illegal. If dialing an 8YY number results in 900 charges on your bill, you can refuse to pay the bill with complete impunity and file criminal charges against the company that placed the charges on your bill. It's called fraud. The old dodge of "press 1 to accept charges for this call" has been squashed. Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * Telecom-at-LincMad.com North American Telephone Area Codes & Splits ------------------------------ From: gldyer-nospam@geocities.com (Geoff Dyer) Subject: Re: Protecting Ourselves ... Dialing Plan Configuration Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 07:52:22 GMT On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:07:36 -0700, Linc Madison wrote: > The issue of Carribean numbers having surcharges above and beyond the > toll charge has never been substantiated, and is generally regarded as > urban legend. The confusion likely arises because the regular toll > charges to many of the islands are almost as high as 900 number > charges -- over $1/minute in some cases, if you don't have any sort of > international calling plan. Same applies even from outside NANPA. Australia's no.2 telco, Optus, charges pre-selected rates of 24c/m from Australia to either USA or Canada, but calls to Caribbean or Pacific NANPA territories range from 40c/m (Puerto Rico) up to $1.50/m (British Virgin Is). The possible trouble is that Australians and other non-NANPA residents are even more likely to assume that a zone 1 number (without a location given) will be in USA/ Canada. > The good news is that the list of non-US, non-Canadian area codes is > unlikely to grow much. Several of the codes are less than 1% filled. Yep, of the 21 single-area-code territories outside the US proper and Canada, the first to require another code would probably be PR (pop. ~4m.). It was using about one-third of 809 when it changed to 787. Other populations over a million are: Dominican Republic (~8m.) Jamaica (~2.65m.) Trinidad & Tobago (~1.1m.) The remaining 17 territories *total* less than 2 million people, ranging from Bahamas (~300,000) down. Geoff (to e-mail me, remove any instances of "-nospam" from my address) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 01:51:58 GMT Organization: Road Runner > Now the obligations for service are gone. And there is no > one to complain too. Just lots of phone calls from sales people > from these supposedly "competitive" companies. But the point > is you don't know what fees they have for whom. They tell you > what price they have for you. That is very far any "competitive" > situation. The bottom line is that the modern "competition" is nothing more than the right to buy retale instead of wholesale. Joel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:50:12 -0400 From: Fred Goldstein Subject: Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US Pat wrote in response to Ronda: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ronda, we have gone through this so > many times here, I guess one more time won't hurt. The decision to > bust up the phone company (AT&T) in the early 1980's was made by a > federal judge -- Judge Greene -- who one day lost ten cents in a > payphone booth, went away angry feeling damned and detirminined to > 'break up Bell' no matter what the cost, then proceeded to meet > with his cronies in the Justice Department and let them know they > would find a hospitable welcome in his courtroom. Some in Justice > wanted to break up Bell also. It's a cute story but not quite true. The Justice Dept. sued to separate Western Electric from AT&T. It was settled in 1956 in the Final Judgment (FJ), but reopened later. History and Lucent's stock price indicates that it would have been good for AT&T and good for Western (now called Lucent) to go their own ways, but AT&T management was more interested in "having it all" than in maximizing value. By the 1970s, the computer industry had grown up fast without AT&T allowed to play, since AT&T/Western's FJ deal prohibited them from selling computers to anybody but Bell System licensees (BOCs). Rather than spin off Western, AT&T instead looked at their profit structure. Noting that local service was always subsidized by LD, they decided to spin off local service and keep Western. The Justice Dept. bought into the deal and accepted it as a substitute for spinning off Western. Thus came the Modified Final Judgement (MFJ). Greene had oversight of the case. He accepted the BOC spinoff with modifications. In the original wording, all "interexchange" traffic would have had to go via LD carriers. Technically, that would have included local calls from, oh, Overshoe to East Overshoe, or Chicago to Skokie or Hackensack to Teaneck (which share a CO but are technically different exchanges). This was modified to create, instead, LATAs, giving the BOCs workable areas. The overall industry restructuring worked very well. AT&T was turned into a competitive-market player, with essentially no monopoly services left once 800 was demonopolized. Even Western eventually started turning out competitive products. Pre-divestiture Western was a joke. I was a telecom manager in the 1970s and "Bell" PBX systems were usually inferior to their "interconnect" counterparts, but by 1990 Western (then called AT&T Technologies) was generally viewed as the high-quality player. The RBOCs were created as the keepers of the essential monopoly facilities. They were, in the 1980s, left with rate-of-return regulation, and regulation was supposed to prevent abuses. But RBOC managers wanted more. They wanted to enter LD, wanted to enter new businesses, and wanted higher profit margins. So the deal, which became the Telecom Act, was to demonopolize local telephone service in exchange for letting the RBOCs have more freedom. None of these companies was ever an eelymosynary (sp?) institution. They always wanted profit. The old Bell System had a propaganda arm that made lots of people think that they were really just provided wonderful service at a low price because they liked to. Hell, there might still be some North Koreans who think they have it better off than their southern counterparts. These are businesses out for profit, and always have been. Sometimes good service is profitable. And sometimes telling people that their service is good is cheaper and more profitable than improving it. After all, absent a competitor, who knows? Monopolies almost always have a hard time delivering good service at a good price. European PTTs were usually even worse than Ye Olde Bell System. Competition hones the mind, makes one strive to do better. What problems exist in the US are more a result of imperfect competition, old monopolies recalcitrant to deal with a changing environment, and regulators who prefer to please vested interests (who give them a job after the next administration replaces them) rather than the public interest. Plus the laws, like the Telecom Act, are intentionally vague, since that's how compromises get passed. The benefits of local competition haven't reached everyone yet. Local telephone service isn't simple to deliver. Setting up a CLEC (I help companies do this for a living) takes time and money, much more than, say, building a local ISP. And the ILECs have done everything possible to slow the process down. But it will happen, and it will be better for the public at large than a monopoly could have been. ------------------------------ From: sdavis@sprint-canada.com Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:33:03 -0400 Subject: German Message Received M. Pfeifer wrote: > Anrufbeantworter und Fax mit thermopapier)Eine Bedienungsanleitungwer. > Hat solch eine oder Kann mir sagen Wo mann diese bekommen kannhabe > schon im netz nach Olympia gesucht aber leider nicht weitergefunden" Hi Pat, M. Pfeifer is searching for the instruction manual for something he/she calls a Quadrophone (Which sounds like a fax that uses thermal paper and which contains an answering machine (the "Anrufbeantworter")). They've already searched the Internet for Olympia (I assume this is the manufacturer) but haven't had any luck, and would like some help. Of course, my German is rusty, but I'm pretty sure this is what they want. Scott ------------------------------ From: David Clayton Subject: Re: DTMF Over TCP/IP Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:06:30 +1000 Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au Pty. Ltd. Reply-To: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au Alex Saveliev contributed the following: > Hello! > Could anybody point out how DTMF signals are transported over TCP/IP > network in IP telephony application? What we want is a computer > calling someone in PSTN (say, by means of NetMeeting API ) via an IP > telephony gateway (say, Dialogic based). The callee then generates > tones, pressing buttons on his phone. How these short tones get to our > computer over a packet network? Is there a standart for it? If there > is, then should I use Netmeeting API, TAPI or something else to get > these tones? ..... "Voice over IP" is just audio converted to data packets at one end and reconverted at the other end. DTMF tones are also audio, so they are transported just the same as voice. Regards, David. David Clayton, e-mail: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Dilbert's words of wisdom #18: Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. ------------------------------ From: Gary Shapiro Subject: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Organization: Company Name Goes Here Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:39:22 GMT The following message has been sent to the California Public Utilities Commission (for all the good it will do): Are LECs under any obligation to provide a reasonable facsimile of the correct time on their time-of-day numbers? Providing an approximate time would not be so bad, but the message clearly implies that it is accurate: "At the tone..." Completely misleading. This might be considered unfair competition if there are for-a-fee time sources out there who are accurate. Today GTE time is 1 minute and 49 seconds slow. It's been inaccurate by varying degrees for years, if not forever. A few days ago I learned that the Santa Barbara Metropolitan Transit District tells its drivers to use GTE time to synchronize their watches. Gary Shapiro , a "throwaway" address that goes away shortly after the spam starts. If you wish to email me and it no longer works, try garyes at-sign mail dot-like-thing com ------------------------------ Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Subject: Re: Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound From: shawn Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:22:32 -0700 The Panasonic KX-TMC98-B is great; the best two line machine I've seen in a long time!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:45:14 -0500 From: David Neal Subject: For Sale: Spirit Six Button Sets Organization: SBC Internet Services Upgraded to a different system last year and discovered I still have 12-15/ 6 Button Spirit System sets. Some ivory some black. If Interested Contact: daveneal@swbell.net ------------------------------ From: lwinson@bbs.cpcn.com (L. Winson) Subject: Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted Date: 13 Apr 2000 00:56:05 GMT Organization: The PACSIBM SIG BBS > I have found that the DeLorme map program, Street Atlas (the latest > version available I believe is Version 7.0), is a great 'database' for > precisely the "codes" you require. Dropping down the "Find" box allows > entry of either code. The result is a precise map of the geographic > area covered by that "code". I have an earlier version of the DeLorme program, and while it does index by both zip code and area code/exchange, it is by no means "precise". Rather, it will give you the general area served by the exchange. End of TELECOM Digest V20 #66 ********************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Fri Apr 14 17:51:21 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA08801; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:51:21 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004142151.RAA08801@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #67 TELECOM Digest Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:51:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 67 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 4/13 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US (Someone) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (MLS1955@aol.com) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Michael N. Marcus) How Does 800 Service Work - Can Anyone Run Their Own? (Jest Ipher) Re: Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound (Mel Beckman) Re: DTMF Over TCP/IP (Rick Ellis) Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? (J.T. 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All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Someone Subject: Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:59:36 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Ronda Hauben wrote in message news:telecom20.64.1@telecom-digest.org... > Daniel Seyb (seybernetx@ameritech.net) wrote: > Now it is only those with a commercial self interest that > at least in the US, the government is interested in hearing from. > Those with a commercial self interest are considered to be > the "stakeholders" who have to be determining what happens. > That is a reversal of the role of government. > How does one change this? By having some meaningful campaign finance reform. Under the current system, our legislators are nothing more than paid shills for their large "contributors." ------------------------------ From: MLS1955@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:54:39 EDT Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Now, come on ... don't we, in the industry, have anything better to do than measure the accuracy of a FREE time announcement? I hate to say it, but after nearly 25 years in this business, I find your complaint both anal and petty. ------------------------------ From: Michael N. Marcus Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 05:55:11 -0700 > Today GTE time is 1 minute and 49 seconds slow. It's been inaccurate > by varying degrees for years, if not forever. > A few days ago I learned that the Santa Barbara Metropolitan Transit > District tells its drivers to use GTE time to synchronize their > watches. In the early 1970s, I worked for Rolling Stone magazine in Manahttan. If I stood on Madison Avenue, I could see giant clocks on both the Newsweek Building and the IBM Building. They were often more than three minutes apart. I'm not sure which clock the NYC Transit authority bus drivers paid attention to, if any. Michael N. Marcus AbleComm, Inc. Panasonic phone systems & phones www.ablecomm.com ------------------------------ From: jestipher@usa.net (Jest Ipher) Subject: How Does 800 Service Work - Can Anyone Run Their Own? Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:04:32 GMT Organization: @Home Network Hi, Lets say I own the number 800-123-4567, and I'm an ISP who gives this number to our subscribers so they can call in when travelling - I get billed somewhere on average of 5c/min to 12c/min if I order this service from someone like ATT/MCI/Sprint right? How is this call routed? Is there a database that all LECs/CLECs lookup on to tell where to send this call? The call does start with some local exchange and get routed to the "operator" (ATT/MCI/Sprint) of that 800 number right? If I had a local access number in every single area code in the country AND if I wanted to save money - could I just get all calls to my 800 number routed directly to me at the closest local number? ie WITHOUT ATT/MCI/Sprint being the go between so I don't have to pay them? I understand that in most cases, folks have one phone that the 800 number is supposed to ring - so some LD carrier HAS to carry the call over to that one phone - but if I had a number in every single area code -- why do I need a LD carrier to be in between? If I can't do this -- how does one go about running their own 800 service -- to the point where one could sell an 800 service to individuals/businesses like ATT/Sprint/MCI does? Phew - that was long. Thank you very much in advance. Jest [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: In most cases, the 'LD carrier' you reference is also the '800 carrier', assuming you get the service from MCI, AT&T, Sprint or the other big carriers. What you may be confused by is the 'termination fee' the carriers have to pay to the local phone company, which would be payable even if *you* were the carrier, as you suggest. It would not matter if you had one national number for your customers to call, or one for each state as you suggest. The local telco expects to get paid. The only way to work around this is through the use of T-1 style lines, where the carrier you choose sends all the 800 calls to *his* office in the city where you are located, then from his office to yours, special dedicated lines are strung, essentially cutting the local phone company out of the loop entirely, *along with all the termination fees you or the long distance carrier would otherwise be charging.* Although T-1 lines can be expensive, termination fees can be a lot more expensive. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:48:57 -0700 From: Mel Beckman Subject: Re: Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound At 11:22 PM -0400 4/13/00, shawn wrote: > The Panasonic KX-TMC98-B is great; the best two line machine I've > seen in a long time!!!! I actually had one of these, and then a friend showed me his Casio PhoneMate Executive Series four-line, with integrated digital answering machine, four-line caller ID, and built-in headset jack. The headset isn't included, but a $25 Plantronics works great (the one with the RJ headset connector). This phone is stunning in its voice quality, first-rate speakerphone, clean looks, and good human interface. The LCD, while not backlit, is very very bright and easy to read from any angle. The voicemail system is very powerful, with multiple mailboxes and passwords.My fave feature is the headset button, which puts the headset online with a single push -- no need for those clunky handset-lifty gizmos sold by Hello Direct et al. Other cool features: 12-station intercom, inter-station call transfer capability (even transfers the caller ID info), all-station page (I only have one station, but this might make me buy more), a fax/modem port that lets your computer use any available line for outgoing calls, and a stations-in-use map. Casio has put a lot of very intelligent design into this thing. As a former PBX installer, I can see that this system would easily displace low-end key systems. Fry's has em for, I think, around $200. -mel ------------------------------ From: ellis@ftel.net (Rick Ellis) Subject: Re: DTMF Over TCP/IP Date: 14 Apr 2000 15:34:54 GMT Organization: Franklin interNet http://www.franklin.net In article , David Clayton wrote: > "Voice over IP" is just audio converted to data packets at one end and > reconverted at the other end. > DTMF tones are also audio, so they are transported just the same as > voice. They would be if the compression methods used in most voip didn't cause them to be so distorted. http://www.fnet.net/~ellis/photo/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 07:53:33 +0100 From: JT Thompson Subject: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? My cousin has my old 486 laptop, and she'd like to be able to get email. We're in Ireland, by the way. Does anyone know any site where I can download old internet software for her? All I need, really, is a *small* FTP program that will work under Windows 3.x. I have Trumpet Winsock. Once I have an FTP program I'll be able to download Eudora for her. I also need to know how to *uninstall* in Win3.1 - I tried installing an old bundle of internet software from the mid-1990s, but the combination of browsers and dialler and so on was fairly buggy. I'd prefer to give my cousin a group of separate apps. Various people have suggested putting on Windows 95, but the thing is, she's a writer, she likes the speed of the computer at the moment, and Windows 95 would slow it considerably. And no, she's not techie enough for Linux. Win3.1 strains her technicality considerably . The laptop -- a Toshiba 2110, and a lovely old thing -- has a floppy drive, but no CD-ROM drive. Once I've found where to download various internet bits and pieces, I think I'll put up a website with links to them. There must be other people poor enough to need to use Win3.1 and 286/386/486 technology all over the world, and it'd be handy to have a source of old software. Any help gratefully accepted. - JTT ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Privacy is Back in Web Surfers Hands! From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:49:54 GMT Organization: Road Runner > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: As an alternate, you are free and > encouraged to use http://telecom-digest/secret-surfer.html to do > your surfing using a proxy server. You can also use the anonymous > email writing facility there. Try it out and see what you think. > Its free to Digest readers. PAT] Just out of curiousity, I did try this out, looking at my own web site, so I could see the logs. It did NOT hide my identity, nor did it warn me. The logs show that my machine (which the secret-surfer was supposed to hide) accessed the background image. Joel [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not know what to tell you. It has in the past worked for me. All the anonymous features are maintained by the webmaster at Church of the Swimming Elephant, with whom I think you should be in touch. *Thank you* for taking the trouble to verify it first, as I suggested. See what postmaster@cotse.com has to say about your evidence, and please write back here to us. PAT] ------------------------------ From: rh120@columbia.edu (Ronda Hauben) Subject: Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US Date: 14 Apr 2000 15:16:18 GMT Organization: Columbia University Reply-To: rh120@columbia.edu satch@concentric.net (Satch) wrote: > Allegedly rh120@columbia.edu (Ronda Hauben) said on 12 Apr 2000 in > the following: >> But they were obligated to meet certain standards. And they were >> obligated to maintain a high level of technology which led to >> upgrades like the 5ESS switches and the development of UNIX. >> The Bell system was regulated and Bell Labs was a research laboratory >> maintained to meet the obligations of that regulation. > You really need to read up on the story of Unix and how it came about. The > story revolves around the needs of 21 or so lawyers to write documents, a > PDP-7 computer that was in a storage closet, and a couple of people who had > better things to do than write word processing software for said lawyers. Interesting. I did some of the earliest research and writing about the important events that made it possible for UNIX to be developed :-) (And early drafts were posted on TELECOM Digest and are probably still it its archives. Thanks Pat, for your help over a long period of time in making this work available.) See "Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet" published by the IEEE Computer Society Press, 1997, chapter 9 "On the Early History and Impact of Unix: Tools to Build the Tools for the New Millennium" Also chapter 6 of Netizens is relevant as well. It isn't as you suggest that Unix popped out of the sky to help 21 lawyers write documents. To the contrary. It was a significant development that built on the lessons from the time-sharing research to develop the Compatible Time Sharing System (CTSS) at MIT and then the work developing Multics. For an important period of time, the Bell Labs researchers who developed Unix were part of the collaborative effort of MIT, AT&T and GE to develop Multics. And Dennis Ritchie is quite clear when he describes how UNIX developed to give credit to the experience of the Bell Labs researchers with CTSS. > Then go back and review the paperwork between AT&T and the FCC with > regards to the Unix operating system. Note especially the irritation > that the Commissioners had in trying to deal with this unintended > product of the regulated monoply. Then look at why AT&T GAVE AWAY > Version 7 to so many universities. Again, it is different from what you suggest. The development of UNIX made it possible for AT&T to carry out its obligations to the public by being able to achieve programming tasks involving millions of lines of code. This is precisely why AT&T and Bell Labs were able to fulfill on their obligation to provide a high class telephone system. This is precisely what their obligation was under the FCC. To see UNIX as a product is to miss the achievement of Bell Labs and the need for such a laboratory to provide for the science and technology that can provide universal access at low cost to the people of the US. > Don't get me wrong, I agree with your main point. Just remember, though, > that Unix was not an upgrade. It was an accident. Unix was by no means an accident. And it wasn't an upgrade either. It was a significant scientific development that built on other significant scientific developments. And the regulation of AT&T at the time and the obligation it had to maintain Bell Labs was the environment that made this possible. Ronda ronda@panix.com Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook also in print edition ISBN 0-8186-7706-6 ------------------------------ From: Joel B Levin Subject: Re: Rapidly Deteriorating Phone Service in the US Organization: On the desert Reply-To: levinjb@gte.net Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 05:10:15 GMT In , Fred Goldstein wrote: > None of these companies was ever an eleemosynary (sp?) institution. eleemosynary. Great word. "Etymology: Medieval Latin eleemosynarius, from Late Latin eleemosyna alms -- more at ALMS Date: circa 1616" ": of, relating to, or supported by charity " Thanks to http://www.m-w.com/dictionary, Merriam-Webster's on-line lookup. /JBL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 01:41:45 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Software Ignites Porn, Pirate Worries Gnutella offers a new kind of search tool for music fans, but near-perfect anonymity raises other thorny issues By Bob Sullivan MSNBC April 12 It could undermine the influence of every search engine and every Web portal. It's the biggest thorn yet in the side of record companies worried about the spread of pirated music on the Net. And it's the easiest way yet to trade pornography, even illegal child porn, over the Internet. For a piece of software that lived for less than 24 hours on its home page, Gnutella has created quite a stir. http://www.msnbc.com/news/393962.asp?cp1=1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 02:06:25 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Overload Has AT&T Cellular Customers Losing Calls, Patience By Peter S. Goodman Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, April 13, 2000; Page A01 Like millions of others, Jim O'Brien bought wireless service from ATT with the not-unreasonable expectation that his phone would ring when someone dialed his number, allowing him to then have a conversation. Turns out, he was wrong. In the three weeks since O'Brien, an oft-traveling Internet account director, walked away from an ATT store in Washington with his new phone, it has rung just a handful of times, though his fiancee has tried him on hundreds of occasions, he said. Usually, she hears a recorded message that all circuits are busy. Rarely does his voice mail field the unsuccessful calls. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1206-2000Apr12.html ------------------------------ From: Bob Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:30:57 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:05:48 -0700, John Willkie wrote: > If you're going to bother someone with lifting up the handset on your > beck and call, you should at least be able to talk immediately, with > the hand set lifted. I agree. There's nothing more irritating than talking to someone on those half duplex, echo laden, byte dropping speaker phones. bob ------------------------------ From: hudsonl@skypoint.com (Hudson Leighton) Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:48:34 -0500 Organization: MRRP In article , John Willkie wrote: > Paul Rubin: phr@netcom.com wrote: >> In article , Riklef Flor >> wrote: >>> When I answer the phone and say "Hello" ... if I don't hear an >>> immediate response, I hang up. Invariably, it turns out to be a >>> predictive dialer hunting for an open line. >>> I've only been "wrong" once and that was my wife, who uses the same >>> trick. >> This isn't good. I often call people on my speaker phone. When and >> if they answer, I switch from the speaker to the handset, which causes >> a slight pause. My speaker phone doesn't have a microphone (except >> the one in the handset), so until I switch, the person can't hear me. > Actually, what isn't good Mr. Rubin, is your method of making telephone > calls. If you want to be considered a telemarketer (or an attorney) > continue to use your current method. I consider it arrogant. snip > John Willkie > jmwillkie@hotmail.com I wouldn't call it arrogant, I would call it common sense, with most phone calls dumping you into "Press 1 to be put on hold h*ell", it's much easier to use a speakerphone, then it is to hold onto a handset and try to get some work done. I was ornery one day calling USWorst and camped on the line for about six hours before they finally answered, did I do it with the earpiece glued to my head? NO! I used my speakerphone with the volume turned up so I could hear it anywhere in my office. Hudson http://www.skypoint.com/~hudsonl ------------------------------ From: Mike Blake-Knox Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:19:05 EDT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Reply-To: mikebk@intrex.net In article , Paul Rubin wrote: > This isn't good. I often call people on my speaker phone. What do you think your colleagues feel about having to listen to your dialing while you're dialing? Mike Blake-Knox SimpliCTI Software Solutions (919) 858-8898 x103 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:36:03 GMT Organization: Road Runner > I find someone calling me from a speakerphone very irritating. If you > don't want to set your recipient on a negative edge with you, I would > [...] >> This isn't good. I often call people on my speaker phone. When and >> if they answer, I switch from the speaker to the handset, which causes I'm astonished at the number of negative responses to this. Do people really have so little else to worry about that the fraction of a second it takes to switch from speakerphone to handset seems important? ------------------------------ From: Andrew Green Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:33:13 -0500 > Paul Rubin writes: >> This isn't good. I often call people on my speaker phone. >> When and if they answer, I switch from the speaker to the >> handset, which causes a slight pause. My speaker phone >> doesn't have a microphone (except the one in the handset), >> so until I switch, the person can't hear me. [...] > I find someone calling me from a speakerphone very > irritating. If you don't want to set your recipient on a > negative edge with you, I would pick up the handset when > calling. Or dial the number with the speakerphone then > pick up the handset before they answer your call. At the risk of piling on the poor Mr. Rubin, I would add that his switch from speaker to handset is more than just "a slight pause": in my experience on the receiving end of several regular callers to me who dial their calls this way, it causes a colossal *pop* and clatter of plastic in my earpiece as the caller grabs for his handset; it's far from the silent switchover Mr. Rubin believes he's doing. I'm getting off-topic now, but I'm more annoyed by those people who _always_ conduct their conversations by speakerphone. I had one frequent caller who did this from his desk in a crowded office with incessant background coworker chatter, and I have to believe his calls were as irritating to them as they were to me. Fortunately he was a friend of mine, not a customer, so I was able to cure him of the problem, at least for my calls, by barking loudly over his speaker, "DAVE, GET OFF YOUR LAZY BUTT AND PICK UP THE HANDSET!" Andrew C. Green Datalogics, Inc. 101 N. Wacker, Ste. 1800 http://www.datalogics.com Chicago, IL 60606-7301 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:48:55 PDT From: Babu Mengelepouti Subject: Re: Microwave Towers JF Mezei wrote: > How is Alaska linked to the USA mainland? Are places just as Juneau > linked by undersea fibre? Or do they also rely on microwaves? My knowledge of the Juneau telecommunications network is a couple of years old, but I doubt that much has changed in the interim. There are two carriers in Juneau; one is GCI (http://www.gci.com) and the other is AT&T Alascom. AT&T Alascom carries their traffic via analogue microwave to Seattle, on a series of towers that traverses the coast of British Columbia. GCI, meanwhile, bounces their calls via satellite to Issaquah, Washington (about 20 miles east of Seattle, for calls to the Lower 49) and to Anchorage (for calls to Alaska). Alascom is the incumbent monopoly long distance carrier, and in general offers higher quality service at a higher price. GCI customers have to put up with an annoying satellite delay, but get free Internet service and qualify for good prices on cable TV as well. There has been talk for a long time about running a fiber spur from the US-Japan fiber, which originates in Reedsport, Oregon, to southeast Alaska. The link to Anchorage is a spur, so there is precedent. However, the entire southeast Alaska region has a population of barely 100,000 -- if that. Aside from Juneau being the state capital, there isn't much to speak of in the area, other than gorgeous scenery, excellent fishing, and some forestry (local euphamism for "strip the mountains, don't bother to replant, and process the trees in disgusting, polluting mills behind which the remaining trees are dying). And a burgeoning industry in ferries and Alaska Airlines (the monopoly air carrier since Markair went out of business a few years back), since the only way in or out of most of southeast Alaska is by boat or plane. With so little economic incentive, I'd be very surprised if fiber were brought into the area. The local exchange carrier in Juneau is PTI Communications, based in Vancouver, Washington. The last time I was in Juneau, they ran an excellent, modern DMS100 -- I imagine that they still do. Their outside plant extends as far as fifty miles from the central office, using SLCs and other technologies, and the quality is generally very high. They also have several post-pay, brown, Northern Telecom payphones--which are post-pay and cost only ten cents per call (though this may have changed). GTE Alaska has Wrangell and Petersburg, the two neighboring cities (reachable only by plane or boat). ------------------------------ From: Charles Spitzer Subject: Re: Microwave Towers Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:51:40 -0700 Organization: Stratus Computer (DE) Inc, Maynard MA, USA Yeah, but has a stealth backhoe ever cut a microwave link as seems to be more and more common these days? Regards, Charlie Phx, AZ Bart Z. Lederman wrote in message news:telecom20.66.1@telecom-digest.org: > In article , J.F. Mezei > writes: >> Is it fair to assume that microwave technology is "mature" and won't >> progress much more, or will there still be enough advances to allow >> Northwestel to upgrade its microwave network to keep up with >> increasing demand for bandwidth ? > Improvements in solid-state electronics that operate in this frequency > range means that you could build microwave transmitters with more > power and receivers that are more sensitive, so that the towers could > be spaced further apart. I expect that antennas / horns have improved > somewhat as well (easier to make more accurate reflector surfaces out > of more weather resistant materials for less cost). > Improvements in modulation techniques and digitization of all > signals (including voice) means that you might get more effective > communications bandwidth out of a given frequency band. > However, the demand for broadcast spectrum at all frequencies means > that there is increasing pressure to get everything off the air that > can be moved to something else. The telephone companies might well > find that the value of selling off their microwave frequency bands > would be worth much more than trying to squeeze more bandwitdh out of > their old microwave links: especially since the latter would require > replacing most of the hardware (except for the actual towers > themselves). > The way things are going, fiber optic cables now have much more > bandwidth than any single microwave link: and recent developments mean > that fiber optic bandwidth is going to continue to increase, sometimes > spectacularly. When you also take into account that a buried cable is > much more resistant to the weather than any above-ground link could > ever be, I doubt very much if it's worth upgrading a microwave link. > B. Z. Lederman Personal Opinions Only ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #67 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Fri Apr 14 23:47:30 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA20092; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:47:30 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004150347.XAA20092@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #68 TELECOM Digest Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:46:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 68 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 4/14 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (Seymour Dupa) Re: Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound (Bob) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (John David Galt) Re: Privacy is Back in Web Surfers Hands! (Joel B. Levin) Cybersnooping Reaching Down to the Keystroke (Monty Solomon) Re: DTMF Over TCP/IP (Steve Gaarder) Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP (Julian Thomas) *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (J.T. Thompson) Getting Aquainted With Jack Whats-his-Name? (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. 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Names are not sold, rented or leased.) ************************************************************************* THANK GOD ITS FRIDAY ... We told you yesterday - here it is today - First Come First Serve - only if you're a trademark owner! SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1490 The DNS is a telephone book. It maps names to numbers in precisely the Same way. Why is it that we manage to publish telephone books without difficulty? Why would we argue about adding a new telephone exchange in an area code, become concerned that the possibility of a greater number of telephone listings would provide more opportunities for trademark infringement, and suggest that it would subject the telephone book publishers to legal liability? Because they are ridiculous assertions. SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1489 "New top level domains" is the battle cry of registrars, small business leaders, and most other constituencies of the Internet. Indeed, it's the logical next step in the Internet's growth, and it's long overdue. But "new top level domains at any price" is the offer on the table, and the price is ceding control of the Internet to the Trademark Lobby. SEE http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1492 ************************************************************************* ARTICLE ACCESS CODE LEGEND ICB Toll Free News offers two valuable service options: F = Free - News and Features articles P = Premium - Unlimited Site Access including all Articles and Documents. ************************************************************************* ICB's ISSUE WATCH covers important matters pending resolution: currently, -- Vapor-constituency: ICANN At Large Membership ... -- SMS/800 system performance problems -- delayed rollout of 866 and 855; -- ICANN plans for Famous Marks and new Top Level Domains; -- flaws in the Domain Dispute System. see http://www.icbtollfree.com/icbheadlns.cfm. ************************************************************************* HEADLINES FOR APRIL 14, 2000 P - OFFICIAL TRADEMARK LOBBY DNS PROPOSAL "The Sunrise Proposal Plus Twenty shall be incorporated into the rollout of new top-level domains. During the Sunrise Period, owners of trademarks and service marks (marks) will be able to register their marks as domain names on a discounted, first-come-first-served basis in a new top-level domain before that new domain is opened to the general public." CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1490 P - NEW TLD'S AT ANY PRICE or, He Who Controls the DNS(tm), Controls the Internet(tm). CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1492 P - LAWYERS PRAISE NEW FCC BUREAU The bureau recently imposed a $3 million fine on Bell Atlantic and detailed compliance requirements for failing to process customers' requests to switch their local phone service. It also required MCI WorldCom to substantiate claims in its advertising, imposed $4.5 million in fines on four other telephone companies for illegally switching customers' phone carriers without their consent, and took the commission's first-ever enforcement action against a company for sending unsolicited advertisements to fax machines. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1494 **************************************************advertisements********* convenient, flexible domestic toll-free ... robust, value-added ITFS: MCI WORLDCOM http://www.wcom.com/ 1-888-MCI-WCOM ************************************************************************* P.A.T.LIVE Personal Assistant Team manages your toll-free telephone number, fax, voice mail, pager, e-mail, Web -- and more! A division of ATG Technologies. http://www.atg-tech.com/ ************************************************************************* WhoSells800.com http://www.whosells800.com .where business shops for toll free service and numbers. Are you listed? http://www.whosells800.com/800serpro.cfm ************************************************************************* more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 14, 2000 F - DOT TM VS. DOT SMALL BUSINESS John Berryhill is a noted trademark attorney who participated in yesterday's roundtable hosted by the Small Business Administration's Office of Advocacy. The topic: How the Trademark Lobby's demand that trademarks be granted right of first refusal in top level domains, would impact small business. Agree or disagree politically, this editorial is a must-read for irrefutable facts of law. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1489 F - BAN ON CELL PHONE ADS PROPOSED Rep. Rush Holt, D-Pennington, said he is writing legislation to ban the practice. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1497 F - WHERE WILL IT END? A popular legislative proposal would outlaw the sale of registered domain names ending in the ".it" national suffix and establish that entitlement to a domain name lapse if the Web site were not active within 90 days of registration. The new law also would extend its protection of the names of Italian citizens to foreign jurisdictions, allowing Italians to take legal action in Italy if their names were registered outside of the country. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1491 P - FCC ISSUES NEW SLAMMING ORDER The Commission did not consider the industry-backed third party administrator (TPA) proposal for addressing slamming complaints because they felt it lacked consensus. 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CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1488 F - DIAL A DASHBOARD General Motors Corp. will offer phone service as a built-in option on hundreds of thousands of cars and trucks by the end of the year -- complete with phone number. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1495 F - MOBILE PHONES DO LANGUAGE TRANSLATION The Mobile Translator service allows users to tap in a text message in, say, English - then tap in a language code - and receive a message back with the word or phrase translated into another language in a matter of seconds. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1496 **************************************************advertisements********* Haven't time to search? Get targeted telecom news every week from the source. 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All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Seymour Dupa Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Organization: Exchange Network Services, Inc. Date: 14 Apr 2000 23:23:18 GMT In the old days, when a person missed a stagecoach, they had to wait two or three days for another one. Nowadays, people complain when they miss one section of a revolving door. John Dr. Joel M. Hoffman wrote: > I'm astonished at the number of negative responses to this. Do people > really have so little else to worry about that the fraction of a > second it takes to switch from speakerphone to handset seems > important? If You Always Do the Things You've Done, You'll Always Have the Things You Got. ------------------------------ From: Bob Subject: Re: Digital Answering Machine With Quality Sound Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:28:02 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:48:57 -0700, Mel Beckman wrote: > At 11:22 PM -0400 4/13/00, shawn wrote: >> The Panasonic KX-TMC98-B is great; the best two line machine I've >> seen in a long time!!!! > I actually had one of these, and then a friend showed me his Casio > PhoneMate Executive Series Will either or both of these answer at least two lines with separate (ie., totally isolated) messages ? Thanks, bob ------------------------------ From: John_David_Galt@acm.org (John David Galt) Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:08:40 -0700 Organization: Association for Computing Machinery Bob wrote: > I agree. There's nothing more irritating than talking to someone on > those half duplex, echo laden, byte dropping speaker phones. I can think of one thing: being in the next cubicle when some idiot who needs ten minutes to pick up two voice-mail messages, does it on his speaker phone. Anyone who installs speaker phones in a "cubicle farm" should have his head examined. John David Galt ------------------------------ From: Joel B Levin Subject: Re: Privacy is Back in Web Surfers Hands! Organization: On the desert Reply-To: levinjb@gte.net Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:24:15 GMT In , joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman) wrote: > Just out of curiousity, I did try this out, looking at my own web > site, so I could see the logs. It did NOT hide my identity, nor did > it warn me. The logs show that my machine (which the secret-surfer > was supposed to hide) accessed the background image. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I do not know what to tell you. It > has in the past worked for me. All the anonymous features are > maintained by the webmaster at Church of the Swimming Elephant, > with whom I think you should be in touch. *Thank you* for taking > the trouble to verify it first, as I suggested. See what > postmaster@cotse.com has to say about your evidence, and please > write back here to us. PAT] I just used it to look at a page I keep at work, where I also have access to the logs. There was nothing at all referring to my client -- only the cotse client showed up in the logs. The page has nothing fancy -- text, a couple links and a couple small gifs and jpgs, and the anonymizer worked just like it is supposed to. No guarantees about what a more complicated set of stuff might have done, though. /JBL [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The webmaster at COTSE warns that it will work with HTML, and it will not necessarily work with Java Scripts or anything that may redirect you on the sly. That is why I recommended testing it with you own pages first before you get into serious surfing. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:42:03 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Cybersnooping Reaching Down to the Keystroke Posted at 10:53 a.m. PDT Thursday, April 13, 2000 Gannett News Service One day, you're so mad at your boss, you stomp over to your computer and fire off one of the nastiest memos in the history of the working world. You call the supervisor every name in the book, and maybe even make up a few. Finally, after venting your anger and frustration, you delete the entire thing. After all, you're mad, not an idiot. Sending that message would certainly get you fired, and that's the last thing you want. But later you are called into the boss' office, and guess what? She knows about the memo. http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/085400.htm ------------------------------ From: Steve Gaarder Subject: Re: DTMF Over TCP/IP Date: 14 Apr 2000 15:22:57 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com When you use the Quicknet Internet Phonejack with the "Voxilla" application from the Open H323 project (http://www.openh323.org), the software captures any DTMF and sends H.323 "user indications" instead. Strangely, the software on the receiving end just diplays these on the console, but it's a minor code change to get it to translate them back to DTMF. Then it works very nicely. A couple of very brief experiments with DTMF as audio over IP were quite disappointing; the digits were not received reliably at all. Steve Gaarder Network and Systems Administrator gaarder@cmold.com C-MOLD, Ithaca, N.Y., USA ------------------------------ From: jata@aepiax.net (Julian Thomas) Subject: Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:03:31 GMT Abstracted from the Finger Lakes Times (Geneva, NY) Thu Apr 13: Lynnet is a local ISP that lost service on Tuesday and was expected to be back maybe today (Friday) - there is nothing in the Friday paper but their web site is up. Bell Atlantic "assumed Lynnet's circuit board was unoccupied and gave it to another customer". BA told the owner that they had not been able to reinstate the circuit and did not provide an adequate explanation. Julian Thomas: jt . epix @ net http://home.epix.net/~jt remove letter a for email (or switch . and @) In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org WarpTech 2000: May 26-28 in Phoenix - plan NOW to attend! www.warptech.org Definitions #740: Keyboard: Device used to enter errors into a computer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:37:29 +0100 From: J.T. Thompson Subject: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles I got this today, and wonder if it's a hoax, since most things with any "tell everyone you know" content are. Is it? > TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE CELL PHONES > This may be of interest to those who have a mobile phone. Check Your > mobile phone serial number. To check your Mobile phone's serial > number press key in the following digits on your phone: > * # 0 6 # > A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your > handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. Should your phone gets > stolen, You will first need to report the Phone stolen at the police > station, > then fill out a blacklisting request form and fax it to the network. > Your handset can be blacklisted via this 15 digit number more commonly > known as > the IMEI number(International Mobile Equipment identity). Even if the > thief > changes the Sim card your phone will be totally useless. You probably > won't get > your phone back, but at least you'll know that whoever stole it can't > use/sell it either. > If everybody did this, there would be no point in stealing mobile phones. > Send this to as many people as possible. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:56:38 EDT From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Getting Aquainted With Jack Whats-his-Name? Someone recently wrote me a note claiming regards telephones I do not know 'Jack Schitt'. The note was anonymous, so I was not able to respond in person.I'll have to respond here, since he claims he reads the Digest every day, and has done so for many years. For many years, I was at a loss for a response when someone said "You don't know Jack Schitt about the topic (or any other topics, for that matter." Today I want to reveal all I know about Jack Schitt's lineage. Jack is the only son of Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate who married O. Shitt a partner of the firm of Kneedeep & Schitt, Inc. In turn, Jack Schitt married Noe Schitt, and the deeply religious couple produced six children: Holie Schitt, Fulla Schitt, Giva Schitt, Bull Schitt, and the twins, Deap Schitt and Dip Schitt. Against her parent's objections Deap Schitt married Dumb Schitt, a grade school dropout. After being married for fifteen years, Jack and Noe Schitt divorced. Noe Schitt later married Mr. Sherlock, and because her kids were living with them, she wanted to keep her previous name, so she became known as Noe Schitt-Sherlock. Dip Schitt married Loda Schitt and theyt had a very nervous son, Chicken Schitt. Fulla Schitt and Giva Schitt were inseparable throughout their childhood and subsequently married the Happens brothers in a dual ceremony. The wedding announcement in the newspaper announced the Schitt-Happens wedding. The Schitt-Happens children were Dawg, Byrd, and Hoarse. Bull Schitt, the prodigal son, left home to tour the world. He recently returned from Italy with his new bride, Piza Schitt. So to the person who wrote me a note saying 'you don't know Jack Schitt', you have to stand corrected. Not only do I know Jack, I am aquainted with the entire family. PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #68 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Sat Apr 15 22:10:23 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA27949; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:10:23 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004160210.WAA27949@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #69 TELECOM Digest Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:10:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 69 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Michael S. Berlant) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Stanley Cline) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Darryl Smith) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Ari Wuolle) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (John R. Covert) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Peter R Cook) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Ed Ellers) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Tony Pelliccio) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Jordan Hazen) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Chris Lowe) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Richard D.G. Cox) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Marcus AAkesson) Cell Phone Blacklists (Jonathan Edelson) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. Contact information: Patrick Townson/TELECOM Digest Post Office Box 259 Independence, KS 67301 Phone: 805-545-5115 Email: editor@telecom-digest.org Subscribe/unsubscribe: subscriptions@telecom-digest.org This Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal about telecomm- unications on the Internet, having been founded in August, 1981 and published continuously since then. Our archives are available for your review/research. We believe we are the second oldest e-zine/ mailing list on the internet in any category! 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Berlant Organization: None Apparent Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 06:58:53 GMT This is only true for GSM phones, including GSM 1900 phones used in the US. As many on the list know, GSM is the de facto cell phone system everywhere in the world except here in the US (and Japan and Korea). "J.T. Thompson" wrote: > I got this today, and wonder if it's a hoax, since most things with any > "tell everyone you know" content are. Is it? >> TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE CELL PHONES >> This may be of interest to those who have a mobile phone. Check Your >> mobile phone serial number. To check your Mobile phone's serial >> number press key in the following digits on your phone: >> * # 0 6 # >> A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your >> handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. Should your phone gets >> stolen, You will first need to report the Phone stolen at the police >> station, >> then fill out a blacklisting request form and fax it to the network. >> Your handset can be blacklisted via this 15 digit number more commonly >> known as >> the IMEI number(International Mobile Equipment identity). Even if the >> thief >> changes the Sim card your phone will be totally useless. You probably >> won't get >> your phone back, but at least you'll know that whoever stole it can't >> use/sell it either. >> If everybody did this, there would be no point in stealing mobile phones. >> Send this to as many people as possible. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Stanley Cline Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 03:09:59 -0400 Organization: by area code and prefix (NPA-NXX) Reply-To: sc1@roamer1.org On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:37:29 +0100, J.T. Thompson wrote: > I got this today, and wonder if it's a hoax, since most things with any > "tell everyone you know" content are. Is it? < snip> >> * # 0 6 # and PAT wrote: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] *#06# works only on GSM phones. (In the US, that means phones used with VoiceStream, Omnipoint, PacBell, Powertel, BellSouth DCS, etc.; in Canada, that means phones used with Fido and the other companies using Microcell's network), but has no effect on other types of phones (AT&T, Sprint PCS, Verizon/BAM/AirTouch, non-DCS BellSouth Mobility, any CellularOne company, etc.) It is very true that some GSM carriers do blacklist stolen phones based on IMEI (what *#06# reveals), but I'm not aware of any North American GSM carriers that do so. Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/ ... "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune ------------------------------ From: Darryl Smith Subject: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:06:50 +1000 This is NOT a HOAX - MOSTLY.... My phone said... 'SERIAL NO 448898308628855' It will only work with GSM phones. The thing is that this only tells you the serial number of the phone, which the mobile phone operator already has anyway since they recorded this information to connect to the network :-)... Basically this number is no use, because the operators do not want to use it. If you ring if you lost your phone, at least in OZ, they will just cancel the SIM Card and let anyone still use the MOBILE? WHY? a) Often they are making money on the A$6 insurance per month, so it is not in their interests to recover the phone, with more money b) if coming into the carrier. c) If the phone is not under insurance, they have suckered the user for another 1-2 year contract ... But they do not tell their customers that the phone can still be used. There is also not to my knowledge any INTERNATIONAL STOLEN PHONE REGISTER. There is not even an AUSTRALIAN WIDE register where the three AUSTRALIA WIDE mobile carriers exchange details. I believe that the encryption is based on this number and some others, meaning that the phone becomes basically useless if someone hacks this number ... and besides, you cannot get calls hacking this number ... that is in the SIM card ... To recap, this will only work on a GSM phone ... > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International] Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au for domain names ------------------------------ From: spta2h99w@nic.fi (Ari Wuolle) Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:10:45 GMT Organization: Just me myself and I On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:37:29 +0100, J.T. Thompson wrote: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] Do you have a GSM1900 phone? *#06# is a standard code that will show the IMEI-code on most GSM (900,1800,1900) phones. It should work with any GSM phone, but I know that at least some older Motorola models do not know *#06#. I don't think that it will work on any non-GSM phones like AMPS, CDMA or TACS. Certainly it won't work with NMT phones. Besides writing down the IMEI code of GSM phone in order to get it blacklisted in case of theft, it is a good idea to compare the code shown by *#06# to the one printed in the phone (usually under the battery). If those two codes do not match, it is possible that the phone has been stolen and the IMEI code (which is supposed to be unchangeable) has been changed. Here in Finland it happened with some stolen Nokia 2110s'. A batch of stolen phones were tweaked to use a known good IMEI. However, one of those resold phones got stolen again - and more than dozen phones stopped working as the IMEI code that all of those phones used got blacklisted. Cheers, Ari Wuolle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:52:25 -0400 From: John R. Covert Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles J.T. Thompson sent the digest a mail about the GSM command *#06#, which returns the IMEI of any GSM cellphone. Pat replied: I tried that on my cell phone and got nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. It works just fine on all of my GSM phones. There is no hoax here. GSM systems have a serial number for both the phone and the SIMcard, which are totally independent of each other. If your phone is stolen, a thief could simply buy a prepay card and go right on using it. For this reason, when a GSM phone is stolen, you must invalidate BOTH the SIMcard and the phone. Note that in the GSM system, your phone number is not stored anywhere in the phone or the SIMcard (unless you deliberately stored it there). This means that number changes are done at the switch, with nothing needing to be done to your phone. It also means that if your phone (or more importantly, the SIMcard) is stolen, you simply get a new SIMcard activated on your old number, and the old SIMcard is forever dead. /john ------------------------------ From: Scot E. Wilcoxon Organization: self Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:27:16 -0500 > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] The code to display the IMEI is different for various phones. But for theft it's sufficient to just write down all the numbers on the phone: take off the battery and photocopy the back of the phone (and the battery) so you have the identification information for the police. File it with your warranty and related papers. The rest of the message makes sense, except that your current cellphone provider knows the IMEI for your phone and when you tell them your phone was stolen they will cut off the service. They can also give it to you for your police report, if you didn't write it down. Moreover, no "send this message to everyone" should be obeyed because it floods mailboxes. This kind of information can be put on web pages where people will find it, but don't broadcast it to everyone. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:53:29 +0100 From: Peter R Cook Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Organization: Personal Pat, Works just like the instructions on my Panasonic GD90 GSM here in the UK. However the same number is on The box the phone came in The dealers invoice The serial no panel on the phone as you might expect. Regards, Peter R Cook [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Since I just use a 'regular' cell phone, I just note the ESN of the phone on the back side of it, then *promptly* notify the carrier to turn it off in the event it is stolen or otherwise walks away. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:23:09 -0400 Pat, the TELECOM Digest Editor, noted: > I tried that on my cell phone and got nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it > is a hoax or urban legend." It does work on my GSM phone, and I've made a note of my IMEI for future reference. Remember that North American cellular phones (other than GSM) can be disabled by the carrier if reported stolen, but with GSM -- which does authorization through the SIM card -- the phone would still be usable with a different SIM. Presumably the IMEI would allow the carrier to disable that stolen phone regardless of which SIM card was put in it. ------------------------------ From: Tony Pelliccio Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Organization: Providence Network Partners Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:49:00 GMT In article , jt.thompson@indigo.ie says... > I got this today, and wonder if it's a hoax, since most things with any > "tell everyone you know" content are. Is it? It works on my Motorola Select 2000. It is GSM specific though, and the IMEI is on a label inside the battery compartment on my phone. Tony ------------------------------ From: jnh@aug.com (Jordan Hazen) Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:51:10 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com In article , J.T. Thompson wrote: > [...] >> This may be of interest to those who have a mobile phone. Check Your >> mobile phone serial number. To check your Mobile phone's serial >> number press key in the following digits on your phone: >> * # 0 6 # >> A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your >> handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. Should your phone gets >> stolen, You will first need to report the Phone stolen at the police >> station, then fill out a blacklisting request form and fax it to the >> network. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] It will only work with GSM phones, which aren't as common in the US as the rest of the world. Here, only Omnipoint, Powertel, Aeriel, and a few other regional carriers use GSM. For other types of networks (CDMA, AMPS, digital AMPS) the Electronic Serial Number (ESN) is used for similar purposes. It's often printed on the phone somewhere-- under its battery, perhaps. Since there's no removable SIM card, GSM's method for splitting the identity between two numbers (IMEI on the phone, IMSI on the card) isn't necessary. But in the case of a stolen phone, my experience has been that the carriers ask only for the mobile phone number itself, plus salient account details (subscriber's SSN#, etc.). They would have the ESN on file already. Jordan ------------------------------ From: Chris Lowe Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:16:47 -0600 Just did this on my Bosch world phone, and it does pull up the IMEI number, and it matches the one printed on the back of the phone, right below the serial number. Of course, this is a GSM phone, not an American cell phone standard (which is an oxymoron, at best). Oh, and I'm sitting in Mozambique right now, but that shouldn't matter ... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:33 +0100 (BST) From: Richard@office.mandarin.com (Richard D.G. Cox) Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Reply-To: Richard@office.mandarin.com J.T. Thompson wrote in TELECOM Digest V20 #68 > I got this today, and wonder if it's a hoax, since most things > with any "tell everyone you know" content are. Is it? It's no hoax - but even so it's not completely correct. The bottom line is that is it actually helpful and positive ... read on: >> key in the following digits on your phone: * # 0 6 # This works on some GSM phones. It may work on other types: I have used Nokia for some years, and it works on all the Nokia phones I have used. >> A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to >> your handset. Correct (again, assuming your phone supports it. Obviously Pat's doesn't) > Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. Should your phone get stolen, > You will first need to report the Phone stolen at the police station, > then fill out a blacklisting request form and fax it to the network. Actually you shouldn't have to fax a form in - the network should act on a phoned report assuming they have set up a "password" authentication system so that they can be sure you are who you say you are ... and your service provider *should* have full records of your IMEI and other security data. >> Your handset can be blacklisted via this 15 digit number more commonly >> known as the IMEI number(International Mobile Equipment identity). True ... > Even if the thief changes the Sim card your phone will be totally > useless. It may be. It certainly will be useless on your own network, and it *should* be useless on other GSM networks that support the blacklist system ... but not all networks are as vigilant as they should be. >> If everybody did this, there would be no point in stealing mobile >> phones. The incidence of thefts of digital (GSM) phones is lower than it was. But there are still countries where such phones can be freely sold and used - networks are in profit when they can collect call charges for calls from handsets on which they have NOT had to pay out subsidies! ------------------------------ From: Marcus AAkesson Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:24:32 +0200 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:37:29 +0100, J.T. Thompson wrote: > I got this today, and wonder if it's a hoax, since most things with any > "tell everyone you know" content are. Is it? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] Not at all. It is perfectly correct, but You don't have a SIM card either, do you? It only works on around 300 million GSM phones world-wide ;-). All of them have an IMEI. Many, but not all operators exchange lists of black-listed IMEIs. If I pick up a phone and press *#06#, it answers: IMEI: 495512-XX-XXXXXX-4-02. 15+2 numbers. http://www.cellular.co.za/ieminumbers.htm http://home.swipnet.se/OsbyMikro/imeie.htm http://www.smh.com.au/news/9906/07/text/business4.html Marcus AAkesson marcus.akesson@NO_SPAM_PLEASE_home.se Gothenburg Callsigns: SM6XFN & SB4779 Sweden >>>>>> Keep the world clean - no HTML in news or mail ! <<<<<< [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, I do not have that kind of phone; I have a regular cell phone, registered on the 'A' side with Alltel, formerly Kansas Cellular. In most of the state of Kansas, Kansas Cellular (Alltel) is the 'B' carrier, although they have not ever been a landline telco. In the southeastern corner of Kansas it is the 'A' carrier, while US Cellular is the B carrier. When I was here in Independence about nine years ago at the time my father died, Independence had no cellular service at all. I had my Chicago-based Ameritech cell phone here at the time, and normally there was 'no service' anywhere in town. However, when I went to the second floor of my parent's house, the phone switched to 'roaming' mode. Under those circum- stances, I tries dialing 0 to reach the operator, to find out where she was at. She said Tulsa, which is quite a distance away. Now this time around, I see cell phones all over town. This time around, I keep my phone set on 'home only' because i I am not careful, I roam onto US Cellular's service which also is an 'A' carrier in Missouri, which is only a few miles east. (Although they are a B carrier opposite Kansas Cellular here locally.) PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 09:01:43 -0400 From: Jonathan Edelson Subject: Cell Phone Blacklists >> Your handset can be blacklisted via this 15 digit number more commonly >> known as >> the IMEI number(International Mobile Equipment identity). Even if the >> thief >> changes the Sim card your phone will be totally useless. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] At the very least, it would seem to apply to GSM phones, which are far more common in Europe. Take note of 'changing the sim card'. The idea of blacklisting the cell phone serial number is somewhat useful; although in the US there were techniques to replace various rom chips in phones so as to change their electronic serial number. A phone would be stolen, taken to a suitably skilled individual, and modified. This phone would then be used to make free calls for a period of time, until the phone company fraud detection would kick in and shut the phone off. I don't know how applicable this information is to generic digital, pcs, or gsm phones. Jon [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: While we are on this topic, my current cell phone is a Motorola flip phone, older model, where deep programming is done by shorting a battery pin to ground, then pressing (I think) '1#' and more. Does anyone know what to do to zero out the three-times register that prevents number changes? PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #69 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Sat Apr 15 23:20:05 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA00799; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:20:05 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004160320.XAA00799@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #70 TELECOM Digest Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:20:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 70 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Auto Extension Disconnect (Shel) Re: Panasonic KX-TA624 (Chris Walsh) Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing (Chris Walsh) Re: Boston Technologies Voice Mail (Chris Walsh) Re: Tiny Tuvalu Cashes in on '.tv' Domains (Peter Corlett) PacBell/SBC vs. Caller-ID Blocking (Linc Madison) Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? (The Old Bear) Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? (Dave Tweed) Re: Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP (Tony Pelliccio) Huge Kid Porn Ring Busted (Monty Solomon) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Jay Hennigan) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Terry Kennedy) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Jeremy Greene) Site Worth Checking Out (Carlos Podesta) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. 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Can anyone tell me if it is possible to bypass the auto extension disconnect on an answering machine so if an extension phone is picked up the machine will still record. No nefarious intent here, just to many room mates not relaying phone messages verbaly when they inadvertantly pick up a phone while the message is being recorded. Thank you [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ordinarily an answering machine will continue to record whatever it hears while it is offhook, which it would be if it picked up a ringing line and had not otherwise timed- out. Set it to answer on the first ring so it will pick up calls immediatly, and set it to stay off hook as long as possible. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Chris Walsh Subject: Re: Panasonic KX-TA624 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 01:23:23 GMT Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Rob, I sold and serviced Panasonic systems for the last 14 years, (sold the company last year), so, yes I think I can help you out quite a bit. You can call me at 877-532-7616, or if you'd like, you can visit my website at tellearn.com. I don't sell phone systems, call me and I'll help where I can. Chris Walsh tellearn.com 1-877-532-7616 wrote in message news:telecom20.45.7@telecom-digest.org... > I am thinking of buying one of these for home use. > Anybody have an opinion? > Rob ------------------------------ From: Chris Walsh Subject: Re: Tone Phones Not Dialing Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 01:30:03 GMT Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Hello, I believe as well that the problem lies in the polarity of the telephone line, and for whatever reason it has been reversed. Some older phones are polarity sensitive and will not break dial-tone if the wires are reversed. How do you know? Take one of your jacks apart and switch the two wires that connect to the "red" and "green" wires of the jack itself. I'd really be surprised if that isn't whats wrong. I teach folks how to purchase and maintain business telephone systems via video course and live seminars. If I can in any way be of more assistance, please call me. Chris Walsh tellearn.com 1-877-532-7616 Robert McDonald wrote in message news:telecom20.52.2@telecom-digest.org... > This is a question about POTS. All of a sudden, three identical vintage > 1983 touchtone telephones have stopped working properly at one > house. They work fine at other houses, and other phones work fine at > this house. > The problem is that several weeks ago the phones stopped dialing, > after years of working correctly. There is a dial tone, but when you > press a number nothing happens and you still have the dial tone when > you release the number. This happens on three phones and not on more > recent phones. It seems quite unlikely to me that three phones would > suffer identical simultaneous failures, so my hypothesis is that > something has changed on the telco end. However, as you might guess, > the phone company (Bell Atlantic) is no help, saying that as long as > any phones work, they don't consider it a problem. > My question is: what could be making this happen? Where do I begin to > look for an answer? Many thanks in advance. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What may have happened is the phone > company quit providing touch tone service to the lines. They usually > do not do that, but if it comes to their attention that tone dial > phones are being used in a case where the fee for same is not being > paid, they reserve the right to remove the gizmo which listens to > and detects the tone dialing. Does the line still work correctly > with rotary dialing? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Chris Walsh Subject: Re: Boston Technologies Voice Mail Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 01:34:22 GMT Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Hello, Don't send it Packing yet! If there are Dialogic cards in it, ( and I suspect there are) you should be able to make some money by selling them. The system itself won't really be worth much, but I think you do ok by contacting someone from Telecom Gear about the dialogic boards. I teach business people how to purchase and maintain phone and voicemail systems. If I can be of more assistance please contact me. Chris Walsh tellearn.com 1-877-532-7616 wrote in message news:telecom20.50.8@telecom-digest.org: > I have some very old Boston Technologies Voice Mail equipment. This > stuff was made in 1991 and consists of several hundred modems, storage > devices, cabinets, control equipment,large UPS system, etc. This system > was fully functional until about 18 months ago when it was turned off. > Specs available on request. > I am trying to determine if there is a market for this or if it is just > dumpster bait. ------------------------------ From: abuse@cabal.org.uk (Peter Corlett) Subject: Re: Tiny Tuvalu Cashes in on '.tv' Domains Date: 15 Apr 2000 14:29:43 GMT Organization: None Fred Atkinson wrote: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have not been offered five cents for all > my domain names put together. The only exception was topica, which offered > me a dollar for each name on my mailing list, which I turned down. PAT] Despite org.uk apparently being a backwater name that isn't terribly popular in the current registration frenzy, it happens to suit me perfectly. The choice of "cabal" is an in-joke, but otherwise not terribly important. In fact, I've got a domain name merely to identify an autonomous system of computers. What's more interesting is that a company was after a domain name containing "cabal", and for some reason, my boss was involved in the deal. He used our inhouse tool to search for the branding (it's made available to the public at http://www.ferret.uk.com if you really care) and spotted I'd got the .org.uk. I was asked to part with the name, but I stood my ground, setting a price of 75k that I know they wouldn't pay. They paid 37 to register a different name instead. The real value? Probably about 500, to cover my time and the hassle of changing everything. It's a seller's market, after all. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:49:40 -0700 From: Linc Madison Subject: PacBell/SBC vs. Caller-ID Blocking Like the vast majority (an estimated 80%) of California residents, I opted for "complete blocking" of Caller ID from my residential phone lines. That is, my caller ID is sent as "anonymous" unless I specifically override on a per-call basis and send my ID by prefixing the call with *82. Even before SBC took over Pacific Bell, PacBell was a bit more vigorous than the law allowed in encouraging customers to opt for Selective Blocking (pass the ID by default, unless the user blocks on a per-call basis with *67). SBC, though, is almost rabid in its opposition to Complete Blocking. Both entities have been slapped several times by the CPUC for excesses in trying to persuade customers to choose Selective Blocking. I recently had DSL installed and thus no longer need the second phone line for the modem. I called Pacific Bell to turn off the modem line, but got a little extra surprise when I opened the order confirmation: REMOVE 415-(disconnect) [etc.] ADD 415-(remaining) 1 Blocking Option: Selective It gets stranger, though. The above seems quite clearly to indicate that my default option has been changed from "Complete" to "Selective" on the line that remains, but in fact it is still blocked by default. Hmmm. The irony is that I have been getting close to the point of switching over the default option, as the cases where I prefix *82 for friends and relatives with caller ID, now outnumber the cases where I want to be anonymous. However, I still want to be the one to make that decision. Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * Telecom-at-LincMad.com North American Telephone Area Codes & Splits ------------------------------ From: oldbear@arctos.com (The Old Bear) Subject: Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:54:10 -0500 Organization: The Arctos Group - http://www.arctos.com/arctos JT Thompson writes: > My cousin has my old 486 laptop, and she'd like to be able to get email. > We're in Ireland, by the way. > Does anyone know any site where I can download old internet software > for her? All I need, really, is a *small* FTP program that will work > under Windows 3.x. I have Trumpet Winsock. Once I have an FTP program > I'll be able to download Eudora for her. I have an old CICA archive on CDROM (1995) which includes: FTP4W.ZIP 40,177 11-15-94 WS-FTP.ZIP 113,400 10-19-94 Both of these are 16-bit programs which should run fine under Win3x with Trupet Winsock's TCP/IP. I can e-mail these as attached files if that would work for you. Let me know. Uninstalls under Windows 3.x are often messy, with stray DLL library files and conflicting versions of various program fragments. If you can't just carefully delete obviously unwanted files, your alternative is to back up the personal data files (like MS-Word doc files, txt files, etc.), reformat and reinstall Win 3.x from the ground up. My suggested "internet suite" for Windows 3.x would be installed over Windows for Workgroups (the most stable flavor of Win 3.x) and would include: 16-bit Netscape, WS-FTP, Eudora, Trumpet Newsreader (my favorite orphaned program), any of several telnet programs such as WinQVT or EWAN, all running over Trumpet Winsock 2.0b. The alternative is to install the complete internet suite called "Chameleon" which was sold by NetManage and included clients for all popular internet applications plus a proprietary winsock and dialler. You might find one of these packages in old stock in some computer dealer's closeout bin or from an individual through eBay or one of the buy-and-sell sites. ------------------------------ From: Dave Tweed Subject: Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:03:52 -0400 Organization: almost none Reply-To: dtweed@acm.org JT Thompson wrote: > My cousin has my old 486 laptop, and she'd like to be able to get email. > We're in Ireland, by the way. > Does anyone know any site where I can download old internet software > for her? All I need, really, is a *small* FTP program that will work > under Windows 3.x. I have Trumpet Winsock. Once I have an FTP program > I'll be able to download Eudora for her. The set of tools I got from Ultranet when I set up my account has worked well on my Win3.1 machine: Trumpet Winsock, Eurdora Lite (email) and WS_FTP (FTP). You can download these programs from their support page at http://www.ultranet.com/download/toolkit.shtml (look down at the bottom for the Win3.1 stuff), but unfortunately, they've glommed them altogether with a bunch of other stuff into one big 8 MB file. You can probably find these tools unbundled via a short web search; try places like http://www.tucows.com . > I also need to know how to *uninstall* in Win3.1 - I tried installing > an old bundle of internet software from the mid-1990s, but the > combination of browsers and dialler and so on was fairly buggy. Unless they supplied an uninstall utility with the package, you're pretty much stuck with manually tracking down the files and deleting them, then deleting the associated icons and/or windows in the Program Manager. You might also need to poke around in autoexec.bat, win.ini and/or system.ini to see if anything got put in there that needs to be removed. Dave ------------------------------ From: Tony Pelliccio Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP Organization: Providence Network Partners Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:47:29 GMT In article , jata@aepiax.net says... > Abstracted from the Finger Lakes Times (Geneva, NY) Thu Apr 13: > Lynnet is a local ISP that lost service on Tuesday and was expected to > be back maybe today (Friday) - there is nothing in the Friday paper > but their web site is up. > Bell Atlantic "assumed Lynnet's circuit board was unoccupied and gave > it to another customer". > BA told the owner that they had not been able to reinstate the circuit > and did not provide an adequate explanation. They'll never provide any explanation, at least not publicly. A couple of years ago they kept stealing my ISDN pair. That doesn't happen since I dumped BA as our local carrier and had Brooks (Now MCI/Worldcom) draw in a T1 to handle all our voice needs. I don't think the folks at Bell Atlantic got what they expected when they absorbed Nynex. The folks at Nynex and New England Telephone before that made so many mistakes and didn't maintain so much of the outside plant that I suspect BA is paying big bucks to rectify it. NET and NYNEX had the goal of replacing all the switching systems in RI to DMS and 5ESS systems while the outside plant was oxidizing and rotting away. I can no longer count the number of pairs I've blown through for voice service at my various residences in the Providence metro area. Some of that plant isn't even adequate for voice but it'll be a cold day in hell before they string any more copper. Instead they'll probably put fiber in, all the better. When the geniuses at NYNEX (Now BA) finally got all the digital switches in place they then started running the SLC's back into channel banks at the CO's and then feeding the channels into analog ports. I suspect this had more to do with the way those SLC's tied into the older #1A ESS, #5Xbar and SxS switches. When they installed the digital switches they just moved everything over without reviewing what was what. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:46:59 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Huge Kid Porn Ring Busted by Lynn Burke 3:15 p.m. Apr. 14, 2000 PDT Underneath a monstrous heap of electronic kiddie porn, federal prosecutors have uncovered a suburban Texas couple, three foreign webmasters, and thousands of customers worldwide who left behind a trail of credit card charges totaling $1 million. http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,35684,00.html ------------------------------ From: jay@west.net (Jay Hennigan) Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Organization: Disgruntled Postal Workers Against Gun Control Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:20:00 GMT On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:39:22 GMT, Gary Shapiro wrote: > The following message has been sent to the California Public Utilities > Commission (for all the good it will do): > Are LECs under any obligation to provide a reasonable facsimile of the > correct time on their time-of-day numbers? > Providing an approximate time would not be so bad, but the message > clearly implies that it is accurate: "At the tone..." Completely > misleading. They say, "At the tone, GTE time will be..." Any similarity between GTE time and the time measured against any reasonable standard is strictly coincidental. > This might be considered unfair competition if there are for-a-fee > time sources out there who are accurate. This isn't necessarily the issue. Are GTE's toll time-of-day discounts also synchronized to the same erroneous time source? If so, then those using an accurate clock to time the placing of calls are potentially being cheated. If not, then those using GTE's time source are potentially being cheated. > Today GTE time is 1 minute and 49 seconds slow. It's been inaccurate > by varying degrees for years, if not forever. Mona was worse, before she got disconnected. Often three or four minutes off. Remember Mona? With GPS or NTP, accuracy to within a small percentage of a second is trivially accomplished. Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - jay@west.net NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 ------------------------------ From: Terry Kennedy Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Organization: St. Peter's College, US Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 07:26:19 GMT MLS1955@aol.com writes: > Now, come on ... don't we, in the industry, have anything better to do > than measure the accuracy of a FREE time announcement? I hate to say > it, but after nearly 25 years in this business, I find your complaint > both anal and petty. These days, it is trivial to get a highly-accurate time source - either a PC running a free Unix system w/ NTP (and you don't even need a private clock source - you can use one of the freely-available ones), or you can set up a tiny GPS receiver. And I'm seeing more and more carriers putting precision timing sources (not always with clocks, but they can take a clock module) in their equipment rooms - in the same room as my colocation with MFS, there's a new Datum Cesium beam reference clock *and* a Datum GPS clock with dual rubidium backup. All that's left is to have a way to have the time spoken - and that hardware is already in place for the existing mass announcement system. Oh, and where is the time call a completely free service? NYC charges for it, and even if somewhere it's only billed as a local call, it should still be a profit center for the telco. Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com terry@tmk.com Jersey City, NJ USA ------------------------------ From: Jeremy Greene Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:53:36 -0400 wrote in message news:telecom20.67.3@telecom-digest.org: > Now, come on ... don't we, in the industry, have anything better to do > than measure the accuracy of a FREE time announcement? I hate to say > it, but after nearly 25 years in this business, I find your complaint > both anal and petty. I don't. Libertarian objections aside, there is one official source of time and it is an atomic clock run by the US government which sits in an underground bunker somewhere in the middle of the country. If I can sync the clock on my $500 home PC to an atomic clock with a piece of free software, why can't GTE do the same? Anyone who publishes the time should take reasonable care to ensure that it is correct ... _especially_ if the telco is giving it the nearest second! In high school science I was taught that you do not report measurements to the nearest millimeter when your margin of error is +/- 5cm. Same case here. When I ran MIS for a small company a few years ago, I set all the clocks in the office every week. They were never more than a few seconds off. Why have we invented such accurate timepieces if we don't care what time it is? For some, it is vitally important. A farmer can work by the rising and setting of the sun, but in order to make a simple phone call to his neighbor in the next town over, the endpoints of the T1s connecting both towns' phone switches must be synced to the same clock... otherwise it just won't work. (Okay that was a cheesy tie-in, hopefully it was vaguely accurate.) Finally: the telco time announcement may be free, but in some cities it takes up an entire NXX: example Boston- dial 617-637-XXXX for time (usually accurate within 20 seconds). If they're going to waste an entire NXX for the time, it had better be the correct time. And sometimes it isn't free; I think if you dial 976-TIME here, you can get it for a price. (Whoever said time is money was right.) Is GTE's service a 976 number? If so, I'd ask for my money back. :-) ------------------------------ From: Carlos Podesta Subject: Site Worth Checking Out Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:11:57 -0300 Mr.Townson: Very nice your site and very important. Please, visit my website PODESTA TELEPHONIC ART: = www.carlospodesta.com.ar Best regards, Carlos Podesta ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #70 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Sun Apr 16 18:32:23 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA00879; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:32:23 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004162232.SAA00879@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #71 TELECOM Digest Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:32:51 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 71 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (georgep_on_ca@my-deja.com) Kansas Getting Area Code Split (TELECOM Digest Editor) Web Security, Privacy, and the Big Lie (Monty Solomon) Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000? 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The NANP http://www.nanpa.com/ is running out of area codes. The CNAC http://www.cnac.ca/ says it may run out by 2007 using industry notes. It outlines recommendations for Canada when this does occur!!! The Canadian Numbering Administrator http://www.cnac.ca/ has recommended to the Canadian Radio And Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ (an agency of The Government of Canada http://www.gc.ca/) That Canada should get its own country code In it's recommendation its says that ten-digit dialing would be enough for Canada and that the mess that would occur with expanding the NANPA would not benefit Canada. In summmary it recommends that Canada adapts it's own country code, following International Telephone Union http://www.itu.int/ rules for new codes Canada would get a new code under the 100 country code. The rest of The NANPA would stay the same. Calls from the USA to Canada would be dialed as 011-100-416-555-1212 Calls from Canada to the USA would be dialed as 011-1-2x12-5x55-1212 (or what ever expand thing the USA uses.) Calls from other countries to Canada would be dialed as 00-100-416-555-1212 (calls overlay or split) and 11-digit for all long distance calls. Check out these document filled with The CRTC at http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/Notices/2000/PT2000-52.htm and http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/Notices/2000/PT2000-52-1.htm As well as these pages http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ENG/public/2000/8621/Pn52/C12-02.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:11:53 EDT From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Kansas Getting Area Code Split A notice in the {Independence Reporter}, Sunday, April 16, 2000: The Kansas Corporation Commission has established a public comment period concerning the need to add a new area code within the geographic area served by the 316 area code. The KCC is interested in receiving comments on which of two relief plans you prefer, and if the geographic plan is selected, which geographic area should recieve the new area code. The KCC has been notified by the North American Numbering Plan Administration (NANPA) that the 316 area code will run out of available numbers by July, 2002, based on the current rate telephone numbers are assigned. NANPA, on behalf of Southwestern Bell Telephone Company and other carriers in Kansas has submitted a recommendation to the KCC which includes two different models, or plans: a geographic split and an overlay plan. Under the geographical split model, the area served by 316 area would be split into two areas: the Wichita Metropolitan local calling area, and the remaining area served by the 316 area code. The 316 area code would be retained in one of the geographic areas, and a new code assigned to the other area. Seven-digit dialing for local calls is maintained is a plan like this. Based on current projections, this plan would provide relief in the Wichita Metropolitan local calling area for six years, and 24 years in the balance of the current 316 area code. Under the overlay plan, which is popular in some areas of the country, all current customers of 316 would keep 316. When all possible 316 numbers have been assigned, new customers would be assigned to the new area code. With an overlay plan, customers do not need to change their area code, however, for technical reasons it is required that ten-digit dialing be used ON ALL CALLS, EVEN THOSE IN A NEARBY COMMUNITY OR THE SAME COMMUNITY. Based on current projection, this plan would provice relief for ten years for the geographic area currently in 316. Since many customers in rural Kansas -- for example, the southeastern area of the state -- routinely now dial ten digits outside their immediate communities or in the several instances in which a community 'straddles' the state line, such as Coffeyville, KS and South Coffeyville, OK (918 area), Fort Scott, KS and (the town of) Nevada, MO (417 area), Arkansas City, KS and Ponca City, OK (918 area), Liberal, KS and rural Oklahoma points (918 area) and Joplin, MO callers (417 area) to Kansas points or in reverse, this overlay plan would seem to pose no inconvenience, or less inconvenience than a plan based on geographic split. Regards the possibility of 'two area codes in the same residence', it is considered unlikely that would happen since there will 'always' be a limited number of 316 numbers available and persons with an existing 316 number could in most cases receive another 316 number for use in the same household; for example a line for a modem or fax machine if they wanted it. Persons without phone service would be the first to be assigned the new code. In either event -- geographic splitting or an overlay, *there will be no change in rates. Local calls will continue to be local, and calls not 'local' now will continue to be 'long distance'. Neither Kansas Corporation Commission, NANPA, or the Southwestern Bell Telephone Company have taken any position on the matter. The KCC is interested in recieving comments from the public on which of the two plans is preferable, and why, if the geographic split is preferred, what areas of the state should receive the new area code and why. The KCC invites persons with technical expertise to include other suggestions regards the split. Comments and suggestions *MUST* be recieved by June 30, 2000. Write to Kansas Corporation Commission, 1500 SW Arrowhead Road, Topeka, KS 66604 or contact us in email at publicaffairs@kcc.state.ks.us. Phone 800-662-0027 to speak with a representative of KCC or visit our website at http://www.kcc.state.ks.us If you wish, you may also discuss this with your local telephone company. PAT ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:38:37 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Web Security, Privacy, and the Big Lie Excerpt from PRIVACY Forum Digest V09 #12 http://www.vortex.com/privacy/priv.09.12 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:04:01 -0700 (PDT) From: lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator) Subject: Web Security, Privacy, and the Big Lie Greetings. Even as the grand shakeout begins in the "dot com" universe, with venture capital drying up, profits usually non-existent, and even some of the most visible e-commerce firms threatened with insolvency, the public relations campaigns continue unabated. Consumers are urged to be comfortable with online transactions, to trust them. The litany is soothing: "You're safe -- you're protected -- you have friends in the machines." But recent events are telling a different story, illustrating how the lack of security in many Web-based systems threatens the release of data that can cause financial and privacy problems to the victims for years to come. This situation was easy to predict for anyone who has ever looked "behind the curtain" at the innards of many e-commerce systems. Web sites that are replete with flashy graphics and even reassuring privacy policies are frequently held together with the software equivalents of bubble gum, masking tape, and bent paper clips. Add to this such goodies as the newly revealed Microsoft FrontPage 98 Web-authoring "back door" pass-phrase ("Netscape engineers are weenies"), which not only raise new security fears, but should also trigger a reevaluation of both quality control worries and concerns about the emotional maturity of the authors of such important software systems. It's easy for sites to claim that they're protecting your personal information when you engage in e-commerce. It's much harder (that is, nearly impossible) for consumers to determine if such information is really secure. You should certainly expect the use of "SSL" (Secure Sockets Layer) encryption to protect your personal data -- and you can check that it's really enabled within your Web browser (usually via a little "lock" icon symbol). It *is* very important to check -- some Web pages claim to be encrypted with SSL but actually aren't due to purposeful omission or accidental errors. But most of the more dramatic cases involving release of personal data from Web sites, including credit card information, financial data, and all manner of other important information, haven't related to SSL problems at all, but rather to other Web site failings and data kept inappropriately on publicly accessible machines. Poor software and systems design, inept configurations, and the lack of maintenance or qualified operations personnel at Web sites often result in hollow vessels that are great at collecting your credit card data, but in reality provide a level of privacy and security straight out of a "Twilight Zone" episode ... Submitted for your approval, the case of "The Memory Broker" (http://www.compbroker.com). This popular online memory seller and buyer allows customers to access their order invoice information on their "secure" Web site via SSL-protected pages. Just one problem -- any user can access *any* invoice on the system, simply be incrementing or decrementing an "order id" field in the URL. Oops! The records available include all of the order data except the actual credit card numbers. Names, physical addresses, e-mail addresses, phone numbers, credit card types, expiration dates, products ordered, etc., are all included. While it could be worse (if the credit card numbers were also present), most of the rest of this information would well be considered private by most customers. If nothing else, customers might not wish their information to be mined for mailing lists and spam by outside observers of the data, nor have their physical addresses or phone numbers publicly available. The data records go back a number of years and forward to (apparently) the present time. The PRIVACY Forum reader who discovered this problem informed the firm by e-mail (no working phone number was immediately apparent from the site's Web pages), but reported that no response was received and that the order information continued to be available. I also tried contacting the firm, to no avail. The apparently valid phone number I found associated with their domain registration led to an order line that was never answered live, and the voicemail messages I left were not returned. Their announced 800 "tech support" line was never answered at all. I did manage to contact the firm's ISP (Isat Network in Las Vegas), but was unable to reach anyone in authority to discuss this situation. I also contacted "The Netcheck Commerce Bureau" which my searches revealed had listed "The Memory Broker" for a number of years with a good rating. Netcheck's Web site (http://www.netcheck.com) says that they "promote ethical business practices worldwide" -- a laudable goal. But I also learned that they haven't considered privacy issues to be part of their evaluations, and they apparently don't attempt to keep track of firms once they've signed up, relying totally on consumer complaints. Since Netcheck doesn't require member firms to mention their connection with Netcheck on the member firms' own Web pages, it isn't clear how the average consumer would even think to file a complaint with Netcheck if they *did* have a problem! And in fact, "The Memory Broker" does not appear to mention Netcheck in any immediately apparent location. Netcheck said that they'd try to contact the firm and let me know what they could find out -- so far I haven't heard back. I might also add that the 800 number listed on Netcheck for "The Memory Broker" leads to a seemingly unrelated individual's voicemail message. So we see the results of building our e-commerce empire upon a foundation of sand. Untrustworthy and even "rigged" software systems abound. Companies that give lip service to security and privacy, but it seems really couldn't care less when it comes to responding to concerns and complaints, spoil the environment for everyone, particularly for the good and honest firms who are genuinely trying to operate high-quality, ethical e-commerce systems. Add into the mix an antiquated regulatory environment that largely treats e-commerce like the rough-and-tumble days of the Old West, rampant political opportunism, and a hype level to make P.T. Barnum proud. It's easy to see why e-commerce consumers feel confused, abused, and increasingly not at all amused. Happy shopping, viewers. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren@pfir.org or lauren@vortex.com Co-Founder, PFIR: People for Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy ------------------------------ From: tknab@nyx.net (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000? Organization: The Home Office Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:33:53 GMT Marietta Georgia wrote: > Does anyone know what calls that show up as Out-Of-Area 000-000-0000 > are? Operator Assisted calls (Collect, 3rd party, etc..), sometimes cellular calls (I know of some people who on their home system, the caller ID info isn't passed through, but when roaming, it is), Prepaid cellular, and some PBXs. Terry E. Knab News/Acting System Administrator Nyx Public Access Unix ------------------------------ From: Chris Walsh Subject: Telephone System Basics Seminars and Video Courses Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:56:28 GMT Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Greetings one and all, I have started a new company whose goal is to teach individuals and companies the ins and outs of telephone and voicemail systems. I won't make a long sell of this message, only to say that if anyone needs a good beginner to mid-level course in telephone systems, did's, peripherals and how to make informed purchases oof telephone equipment, we believe our course is an excellent source of information. This company has been in existence for 3 months, and our video courses are already being used by Technology Institutes in the US and abroad. We offer a free tutorial (via email bi-monthly) and I provide free consulting and advice, for a limited time, to anyone in need. Thank you kindly for your time. Chris Walsh tellearn.com 1-877-532-7616 ------------------------------ From: avinor@my-deja.com Subject: Panasonic TD-308 Manual Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:55:46 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. I'm looking for the Panasonic TD-308 installtion manual/system programming. Any idea where can I find it on the net? Thanks, Avi ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:03:52 -0400 Jeremy Greene wrote: > Libertarian objections aside, there is one official source of time > and it is an atomic clock run by the US government which sits in an > underground bunker somewhere in the middle of the country. Actually two official sources -- the one you're referring to is at the National Institute of Science and Technology lab in Boulder, Colorado, but the Defense Department relies on the U.S. Naval Observatory. Not that it matters, since NIST and USNO frequently cross-check with each other and with national time standards in various countries. > If I can sync the clock on my $500 home PC to an atomic clock with a piece > of free software, why can't GTE do the same? Amen. Incidentally, Kentucky Educational Television's XDS time signal (transmitted on line 21 of field 2) was over a minute off when I checked it a few days ago. Maybe they get their time from GTE? :-) ------------------------------ From: Marcus AAkesson Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:39:35 +0200 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:54:39 EDT, MLS1955@aol.com wrote: > Now, come on ... don't we, in the industry, have anything better to do > than measure the accuracy of a FREE time announcement? I hate to say > it, but after nearly 25 years in this business, I find your complaint > both anal and petty. Not at all. Anyone that offers a time service should make sure that it is correct. Otherwise why not just shut it down and save a buck. Our time service is free, and I sure as h*ll expect it to be correct. (It is, since it's synced to the national reference clock.) Marcus AAkesson marcus.akesson@NO_SPAM_PLEASE_home.se Gothenburg Callsigns: SM6XFN & SB4779 Sweden >>>>>> Keep the world clean - no HTML in news or mail ! <<<<<< ------------------------------ From: heywood@gloucester.com (Heywood Jaiblomi) Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:50:52 GMT Organization: Uncle Heywood's Trousers of Fun > I find your complaint both anal and petty. Let me ask you a simple question. Which is accurate more often, a clock that is off by a minute or one that is stopped? The one that is stopped is accurate twice a day, while the one that is off by a minute is never accurate. Anal and petty? Aren't they a racing team? If I had my life to live over, I think I'd like to live over a liquor store. ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: 16 Apr 2000 03:40:29 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Terry Kennedy': > Oh, and where is the time call a completely free service? NYC > charges for it, and even if somewhere it's only billed as a local > call, it should still be a profit center for the telco. 216 881-0880 216 931-1212 ... Weather reports from two local TV stations that include time. The first number was instituted a number of years ago by the local Fox affiliate and is a service of that station. The second one was originally run by the phone company -- and may still be. I just called a second ago, and the weather report originated at the local NBC affiliate -- but that is NOT the same station that did the forecast last time I called. I am assuming that, for that reason, the service on 931-1212 is not provided by any specific TV station. Both numbers are advertiser-supported, so they aren't free in the strictest sense of the word, but the call is billed only as a normal call if you are in Cleveland. North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:48:48 -0700 From: Linc Madison Subject: Auto Extension Disconnect (Shel) wrote in Vol 20 # 70: > Hello! Can anyone tell me if it is possible to bypass the auto > extension disconnect on an answering machine so if an extension > phone is picked up the machine will still record. No nefarious > intent here, just too many roommates not relaying phone messages > verbaly when they inadvertantly pick up a phone while the message is > being recorded. For about ten bucks, you can not merely bypass, but actually reverse, the situation: the answering machine will continue taking a message, and anyone who picks up an extension phone will get dead air. What you're looking for is a device that looks like an ordinary two-for-one jack adapter, but usually with little red and green LEDs above the two jacks, or some other indication as to which is the "priority" jack (this will often be the one NOT marked "ANS" for answering machine, as most people use them in the opposite sense to your intent.) Of course, then you have the problem of a roommate hearing the beginning of a message for him/herself and having to pick up an extension, then turn off the machine manually, and then be able to talk on the extension. If you're feeling adventurous, you could also open up the insides of the answering machine and look for something like a diode across the wires coming in from the jack, but of course you need to be careful not to yank out the wrong component. Lastly, you could just look for one of the many answering machines that don't cut off when an extension is picked up.... Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * Telecom-at-LincMad.com North American Telephone Area Codes & Splits ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:13:13 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Odd Privacy Ratings Exposed http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,35587,00.html by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. Apr. 12, 2000 PDT Marc Rotenberg is nothing if not a privacy zealot. As the founder of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, he's spent the last decade arguing, pleading, and agitating for everyone to take the topic even half as seriously as he does. So it was something of a surprise for Rotenberg to learn the epic.org site received only two of a possible four stars from enonymous, a San Diego company that published what it billed as a "comprehensive" privacy survey on Tuesday. "Enonymous doesn't have a clue. It doesn't even have close to a clue about evaluating a privacy policy," Rotenberg said. EPIC isn't alone in finding bizarre errors and odd oversights in enonymous' database, designed to tell anyone using the company's "advisor" software what the privacy practices of websites are. That same database was used to produce Tuesday's survey, which said that of the 1,000 most-trafficked sites on the Web, 8.6 percent deserved four stars. Although enonymous claims 30,000 entries using "strict, objective criteria," that list does not include popular Microsoft properties that receive millions of visitors, and incorrectly says places like geek-culture destination slashdot.org have no privacy standards. Even when websites are listed, the entries are frequently contradictory. CNet properties download.com, help.com, and search.com have word-for-word identical privacy policies, but receive respective ratings of one, two, and three stars out of four. Other sites suffer the same problem. Hotbot.com, suck.com, and wired.com (all are owned by Lycos, also the parent company of Wired News) link to the same Web page for their privacy statements -- but inexplicably receive one, two, and three stars. Tim Kane, enonymous's co-founder and director of privacy, said he couldn't explain the problems. "It might be a glitch in our database," he said. If it's not corrected, it could call into question the future of the company, which depends on the reliability and accuracy of its data to differentiate itself from competitors in the increasingly crowded privacy-protection field. Since it opened its doors in October 1999, enonymous has grown to about 35 employees and reportedly has received between $1 million and $5 million from MissionVentures, a San Diego venture capital firm. Before being informed of the problems, Kane said, "I would say that we never screw up. We are very, very careful." Kane said enonymous reviewers spend about 10 minutes looking at each site before awarding it zero through four stars. The highest ranking is reserved for sites that do not contact you without your permission and do not share your personal information with anyone at all. Oddly enough, many popular websites haven't made their way into enonymous' list. News outlets such as Time Warner's time.com, fortune.com, and allpolitics.com are listed as "not yet reviewed." Nor is Ziff-Davis' zdnn.com, of which enonymous simply says: "Congratulations! You are among the first pioneers to surf this website in the enonymous community." Nobody at enonymous appears to have stopped by Microsoft's windowsmedia.com or moneycentral.com, although each receives about 4.5 million unique visitors per month, according to Media Metrix's February 2000 ranking. Kane, enonymous' privacy director, said he wasn't sure why prominent sites were missing. He said enonymous uses the ranking of top 1000 sites provided by PC Data, not Media Metrix. Jason Catlett of Junkbusters, who provided favorable comments for this week's enonymous press release, said he was mystified about why his own site received just one star. That indicates the owner may "share your personally identifiable information without your explicit permission." Catlett said Junkbusters only shares information about visitors with their explicit consent. The rating seems wrong, Catlett said. "I have not done any (quality assurance) on the accuracy of their ratings," he said. "Maybe I should have checked my own site." Copyright 1994-2000 Wired Digital Inc. All rights reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:55:18 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: NYS Internet Porn Law Upheld By John Caher New York Law Journal April 12, 2000 Drawing a sharp distinction between New York's Internet pornography law and the fatally flawed federal Communications Decency Act, the Court of Appeals yesterday upheld the constitutionality of the state statute. The Court agreed unanimously that the New York law survives constitutional scrutiny largely because, unlike the stricken federal statute, it is directed not only at the transmission of certain communications, but also the act of luring a child into sex. http://www.lawnewsnetwork.com/practice/techlaw/news/A21023-2000Apr11.html ------------------------------ From: Roy Smith Subject: Need Help With Antique Phone Organization: New York University School of Medicine Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:00:34 -0400 I've got an antique Western Electric phone that I want to clean up and restore to use. It's a desk set, heavy black metal body, cloth cord, with the number "302-C-3" stamped on the bottom (which I assume is a model number). Anybody have any information about it? When it might have been made (I'm guessing around 1940)? Any ideas for how to clean up the exterior finish without ruining it? It looks like some kind of lacquer, and I'm afraid to use either any kind of abrasive or solvent on it. A wiring diagram would be great to have! The handset has cast into it the familiar "Western Electric" logo (in the classic lightning-bolt font, "Bell System", and in smaller type below it "F1", which I'm guessing is some sort of manufacturing code identifying the date and/or plant it was made in? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:21:58 -0400 From: Kyle Spells Subject: Cellular Phone Fraud Hi. I have visited your site and I think that it is very informative. Can you please send me some information or point out some sites to me that deal with current issues of cellular telephone fraud, cell phone cloning, encryption, etc. Thank you very much. I am a 3rd year law student writing a paper on the topic and could use some help. Kyle Spells ------------------------------ From: Christopher Sutton Subject: Mitel Imagination Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:19:26 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Can anyone give me any advice on how to get a Mitel Imagination III going and to reset the system. Previous owners have left it in a mess if anyone is able to help I would be really grateful. I would really appreciate faxed diagrams / instructions from manuals or e-mails of instructions. No one wants to help, oh apart from Mitel who want 900 for a copy of a manual!!! What a cheek. I'm desperate. Please help. The board itself looks complicated. Extension and trunk ports! Cheers, Chris ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #71 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Mon Apr 17 00:04:20 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA11442; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:04:20 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004170404.AAA11442@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #72 TELECOM Digest Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:04:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 72 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Need Help With Antique Phone (Jay Hennigan) Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (J.F. Mezei) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Marcus AAkesson) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Spyros Bartsocas) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Mike Pollock) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (J.F. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jay@west.net (Jay Hennigan) Subject: Re: Need Help With Antique Phone Organization: Disgruntled Postal Workers Against Gun Control Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 02:48:35 GMT On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:00:34 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > I've got an antique Western Electric phone that I want to clean up and > restore to use. It's a desk set, heavy black metal body, cloth cord, > with the number "302-C-3" stamped on the bottom (which I assume is a > model number). Yes, typically referred to as a "300" set. > Anybody have any information about it? When it might have been made > I'm guessing around 1940)? Any ideas for how to clean up the > exterior finish without ruining it? It looks like some kind of > lacquer, and I'm afraid to use either any kind of abrasive or solvent > on it. A wiring diagram would be great to have! Some time in the 1940s or early 1950s is probably its manufacture date. WE was very good about date-stamping their components. You should find on many of the internal parts a code like IV-47 which means the fourth quarter of 1947. Roman numeral for the calendar quarter followed by the last two difits of the year. Later they went to a MM-YY type of date code. I would try polishing it with automotive polish or wax, the Meguiars products are pretty good. The handset is bakelite and once they get dull it's hard to shine them up again. Your local Graybar may have a chemical made by "Magnolia" called "Glayzit" which is specifically made for restoring the finish on telephones of this vintage. I'd try to keep the chemicals off of the cords. > The handset has cast into it the familiar "Western Electric" logo (in > the classic lightning-bolt font, "Bell System", and in smaller type > below it "F1", which I'm guessing is some sort of manufacturing code > identifying the date and/or plant it was made in? Nope. Just the model/type of the handset. Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - jay@west.net NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 ------------------------------ From: J.F. Mezei Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:15:46 -0400 georgep_on_ca@my-deja.com wrote: > http://www.gc.ca/) That Canada should get its own country code Doesn't Canada already have "2" used deep down in some routing tables etc? Is there some logic in determining how long a country code is to be? (eg: codes beginning with two are three digits, codes with four are two digits etc etc)? ------------------------------ From: Marcus AAkesson Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:23:44 +0200 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:06:50 +1000, Darryl Smith wrote: > This is NOT a HOAX - MOSTLY.... My phone said... > 'SERIAL NO 448898308628855' > It will only work with GSM phones. The thing is that this only tells you the > serial number of the phone, which the mobile phone operator already has > anyway since they recorded this information to connect to the network :-)... Not true. At least not in general. Many networks do not register any particular phone to Your account, as it is not needed. The IMEI is of course logged every time You make a call, but it is not important for Your account details. If I call customer service, they have no idea which phone I'm using, but if the right people are involved, they could of course find out from the logs. So don't take it for granted that they know Your IMEI. Many people have multiple phones. > it. If you ring if you lost your phone, at least in OZ, they will just > cancel the SIM Card and let anyone still use the MOBILE? WHY? Because GSM operators in Australia is far behind in their anti-theft work. Complain. > There is also not to my knowledge any INTERNATIONAL STOLEN PHONE > REGISTER. There is, in Dublin. > There is not even an AUSTRALIAN WIDE register where the > three AUSTRALIA WIDE mobile carriers exchange details. As I said above, they should get more interested in these issues. > I believe that the encryption is based on this number and some others, No, the IMEI and IMSI are open knowledge, the encryption keys are not. The IMEI is not part of the encryption at all. > meaning that the phone becomes basically useless if someone hacks this > number ... and besides, you cannot get calls hacking this number > ... that is in the SIM card ... On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:33 +0100 (BST), Richard@office.mandarin.com (Richard D.G. Cox) wrote: > Actually you shouldn't have to fax a form in - the network should act > on a phoned report assuming they have set up a "password" > authentication system so that they can be sure you are who you say you > are ... and your service provider *should* have full records of your > IMEI and other security data. Since we don't buy phones from the network operators, they have no contact with the phones, and don't care. They do however enforce the blacklist. On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:27:16 -0500, Scot E. Wilcoxon wrote: > The rest of the message makes sense, except that your current cellphone > provider knows the IMEI for your phone and when you tell them your phone > was stolen they will cut off the service. They can also give it to you > for your police report, if you didn't write it down. Not true. At least not in general. Many networks do not register any particular phone to your account, as it is not needed. The IMEI is of course logged every time you make a call, but it is not important for your account details. If I call customer service, they have no idea which phone I'm using, but if the right people are involved, they could of course find out from the logs. On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:51:10 GMT, jnh@aug.com (Jordan Hazen) wrote: > But in the case of a stolen phone, my experience has been that the > carriers ask only for the mobile phone number itself, plus salient > account details (subscriber's SSN#, etc.). They would have the ESN on > file already. That is because the ESN is needed for identification of a subscriber together with the phone number. This is not the case with IMEI, its normally not needed. Only for barring purposes or other restricting measures is it used. It does not need to be associated with any particular subscriber, since they can all switch phones at random anyway, without the operator knowing. That's why you need to keep track of the IMEI yourself. Marcus AAkesson marcus.akesson@NO_SPAM_PLEASE_home.se Gothenburg Callsigns: SM6XFN & SB4779 Sweden >>>>>> Keep the world clean - no HTML in news or mail ! <<<<<< ------------------------------ From: Spyros Bartsocas Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:00:41 +0300 Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles PAT: It did not work, because you do not have a GSM phone. (The person sending this piece of mail to the digest had an Irish e-mail address. Trying this on my (European) GSM phone I got the IMEI (this works even without the SIM card). For me the question is that if your phone gets stolen and you have the IMEI what do you do with it. Do the carriers keep lists of all phones stolen in all GSM countries? Spyros Bartsocas ------------------------------ From: Mike Pollock Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:29:02 -0400 Organization: It's A Mike! It may very well be true, but bear in mind that all phones are different. I'm reminded of a former program director of a former radio station of mine who thought it was a good idea to make a promo telling listeners how to program the first memory setting on their newfangled digital-tuning car radios. So he made such a promo with detailed instructions on how to set *his* digital car radio. I had to explain to him that everyone's car radio programmed differently. Mike > mobile phone serial number. To check your Mobile phone's serial > number press key in the following digits on your phone: > * # 0 6 # ------------------------------ From: J.F. Mezei Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:08:24 -0400 Scot E. Wilcoxon wrote: > The rest of the message makes sense, except that your current cellphone > provider knows the IMEI for your phone and when you tell them your phone > was stolen they will cut off the service. Since my link to the provider is through the SIM card which identifies me, and since I can freely insert my SIM card into any other GSM phone that will accept it (unlocked), I am curious as to how the providers track down the association of SIM with phone? Do they just keep the last IMEI used by that subscriber's SIM card ? Or do they require that you register at least one IMEI when you start the service with them, and that is the IMEI that they keep on record ? ------------------------------ From: Chris Walsh Subject: Re: Panasonic TD-308 Manual Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:14:01 GMT Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Avi, I am certain that I can get that manual for you. However I don't have any idea of where you may obtain it on the web. Give me a call or email if you can't find it on the web. Good Luck. Chris Walsh tellearn.com 1-877-532-7616 wrote in message news:telecom20.71.6@telecom- digest.org: > I'm looking for the Panasonic TD-308 installtion manual/system > programming. Any idea where can I find it on the net? > Thanks, > Avi ------------------------------ From: Stanley Cline Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:48:47 -0400 Organization: by area code and prefix (NPA-NXX) Reply-To: sc1@roamer1.org On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:53:36 -0400, Jeremy Greene wrote: > Finally: the telco time announcement may be free, but in some cities > it takes up an entire NXX: example Boston- dial 617-637-XXXX for time > (usually accurate within 20 seconds). If they're going to waste an PacBell (and I presume GTE) in L.A. has a free time number as well. I couldn't call the PacBell number from the hotel where I was staying as the PBX blocked it, but was able to from my Powertel PCS phone roaming on PacBell Wireless -- but I had to dial the number as NPA 213 instead of 626 (I was in the Pasadena/Arcadia area most of the trip) to reach it via that phone. I just checked my Powertel bill and PBW did charge me for the call. In BellSouth territory, BellSouth itself doesn't provide time of day numbers, but various businesses (banks, churches, etc.) offer free time of day numbers. For instance: * 770-455-7141 - Atlanta (Briarlake Baptist Church; this one's in a different CO than the church for some reason -- the church is in NPA 404 in the Atlanta Toco Hills CO, not in NPA 770 in the Chamblee CO) * 423-265-1411 - Chattanooga (SunTrust Bank) * 770-253-8463 - Newnan, GA (Bank of Coweta -- yes, this one's local to Atlanta proper) > entire NXX for the time, it had better be the correct time. And > sometimes it isn't free; I think if you dial 976-TIME here, you can > get it for a price. (Whoever said time is money was right.) Is GTE's I think there's a 976 number for time here in Atlanta as well, but 976 is all but dead here. (BellSouth still does provide 976 service per their tariffs.) Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/ ... "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune ------------------------------ From: cm Subject: Re: Call Routing References Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:26:38 -0700 SS7 is the protocol used (in North America, anyway ...) to route calls so I'd start with a search on the internet -- there are quite a few good faq's out there -- then hit the bookstore. Dimitris Terzis wrote in message ... > Hi guys, > I am looking for good references (books, papers, URL's, etc.) on Call > Routing and how it's done in today's (or recent) networks > (PSTN/IP/ATM), from both a technology (e.g., algorithms) and customer > (e.g., services) point of view. > The search I've been doing over the net and online bookshops has not > resulted in any impressive results ... Any ideas? > Thanks, > Dimitris ------------------------------ From: jay@west.net (Jay Hennigan) Subject: Re: Software Ignites Porn, Pirate Worries Organization: Disgruntled Postal Workers Against Gun Control Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:02:33 GMT On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 01:41:45 -0400, Monty Solomon wrote: > Gnutella offers a new kind of search tool for music fans, but > near-perfect anonymity raises other thorny issues > By Bob Sullivan > MSNBC > It could undermine the influence of every search engine and every Web > portal. It's the biggest thorn yet in the side of record companies > worried about the spread of pirated music on the Net. And it's the > easiest way yet to trade pornography, even illegal child porn, over > the Internet. For a piece of software that lived for less than 24 > hours on its home page, Gnutella has created quite a stir. Other than spin and the FUD of its use for nefarious purposes this looks very similar to good old gopherspace on steroids. Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - jay@west.net NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:50:46 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: A Case of 'Let the Surfer Beware' By Don Oldenburg Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, April 12, 2000; Page C04 In a consumer alert issued last week, AT&T exposed the naked truth about how customers visiting some adult entertainment Web sites are triggering unexpected international long-distance charges on their telephone bills. http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/2000-04/12/037l-041200-idx.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 00:41:18 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Auction Dispute Centers on Question of Control Over Data By CARL S. KAPLAN Auction Dispute Centers on Question of Control Over Data A dispute that raises important questions about property rights on the Internet will take a step toward resolution on Friday, when lawyers for the auction giant eBay and a Web site called Bidder's Edge enter a federal district court to debate the merits of a practice known as "spidering." http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/04/cyber/cyberlaw/14law.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 00:44:21 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Amazon Sued For Patent Infringement By Margaret Kane, ZDNN Amazon.com Inc., which has been under fire for making certain controversial patent claims, is now being sued by a San Francisco-based music firm for, of all things, patent violation. Intouch Group Inc., which filed the suit in U.S. District Court in San Francisco earlier this week, alleges that Amazon, as well as four other firms, violated a patent governing the way consumers sample music online. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2542378,00.html ------------------------------ From: Gail M. Hall Subject: Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 02:03:56 -0400 Organization: APK Net On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:54:10 -0500, oldbear@arctos.com (The Old Bear) posted to comp.dcom.telecom about "Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin?": > JT Thompson writes: >> My cousin has my old 486 laptop, and she'd like to be able to get email. >> We're in Ireland, by the way. >> Does anyone know any site where I can download old internet software >> for her? All I need, really, is a *small* FTP program that will work >> under Windows 3.x. I have Trumpet Winsock. Once I have an FTP program >> I'll be able to download Eudora for her. > I have an old CICA archive on CDROM (1995) which includes: > > FTP4W.ZIP 40,177 11-15-94 > WS-FTP.ZIP 113,400 10-19-94 I too have an old CICA CD-ROM. I did a search on Google and found their current web site: http://www.winsite.com/ While I was remembering the old sites I used to hear about I checked for some others: SIMTEL http://www.simtel.net/ Garbo http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ Except for Winsite, these have old DOS programs and even some from other operating systems. SIMTEL used to be run by someone in the US military, but when the military was closing down a lot of their stuff, a private company agreed to take this site on and maintain it. Good luck! And thanks for bringing back memories of trying to get files by getting onto local BBS systems and buying those CD-ROMs full of shareware and freeware. Gail M. Hall ------------------------------ From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:04:11 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC In article , jata@aepiax.net (Julian Thomas) wrote: > Abstracted from the Finger Lakes Times (Geneva, NY) Thu Apr 13: > Lynnet is a local ISP that lost service on Tuesday and was expected to > be back maybe today (Friday) - there is nothing in the Friday paper > but their web site is up. > Bell Atlantic "assumed Lynnet's circuit board was unoccupied and gave > it to another customer". That new customer wouldn't be BA.net by any chance? (No, I know, in general BA.net doesn't need cards to the outside...) > BA told the owner that they had not been able to reinstate the circuit > and did not provide an adequate explanation. BA later told the New York State Public Service Commission, "we're terribly sorry, please don't fine us, it won't happen again till next time." I wonder whether the Oughts are going to see the same wave of trustbusting they saw last century. Probably not. paul ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #72 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Mon Apr 17 22:30:28 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25315; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:30:28 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004180230.WAA25315@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #73 TELECOM Digest Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:30:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 73 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Impact of Deregulation (David Langlois) Telecom Update (Canada) #229, April 17, 2000 (John Riddell) Re: NPA-NXX Info for Canada, Carribbean (Mark J. Cuccia) Re: Kansas Getting Area Code Split (Linc Madison) Re: Kansas Getting Area Code Split (Rick Ellis) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. 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All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Langlois Subject: Impact of Deregulation Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:18:05 -0400 Patrick: First of all, may I say that I hope your health is well. I sent you a card in hospital but I am sure that it got lost amongst all the others you received. I, for one, sure did miss your moderation of the news group while you were recovering. But to the point of this missal. I am considering writing a study of the impact which deregulation has had on telecom in the United States, and comparing it to the efforts of deregulation of the CRTC here in Canada. If it has already occurred, could you point me to a spot in the archives where such a discussion has taken place? If it hasn't, is there a place in the archives for similar and/or related material? Failing all that, would you mind posting the following question to the newsgroup: I am writing a study of the impact which deregulation has had on telecom in the United States, and comparing it to the efforts of deregulation of the CRTC here in Canada. Specifically, I am interested in personal experiences and thoughts on the supply of voice and data services to corporations and persons both in a pre-deregulation and post-deregulation world. Do you think that the FCC went through the deregulation process well? If so, why? Do you think they did it poorly, if so, why? If deregulation was to be done again, could it be done any differently? any better? any worse? I know that there has been much discussion here about "slamming" and poor service, but I would really like to hear if you have other things to say. So, if anyone has thoughts, comments, observations or diatribe they wish to share on this subject, please email me at langlo6@ibm.net. Thanks, David Langlois 7988 Decarie Drive Gloucester, ON K1C 2C4 CANADA Tel: 1.613.724.8661 Fax: 1.613.590.7008 email: langlo6@ibm.net [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My health is NOT well. My health is terrible, or maybe I just think it is awful. Maybe in 6 months or a year it might be better. The psychiatrist who came here from the University at Lawrence, KS to give me a series of mental exams said I probably would never get back to normal. By 'normal' he meant to be able to walk long distances (more than three or four blocks), I would never again walk successfully very far without my cane, I would never again be able to do the things I used to do. Even getting in and out of a car -- the way I go most places, in a taxicab -- is a chore. The City of Independence has a transit service for handicapped people; go anywhere in town in a taxicab for one dollar. I tear a coupon out of my book of same for the cab driver, but then he waits about five minutes while I get in and get out, by turning myself sideways, propping my feet on the ground, and pushing myself to my feet, then I get my cane out at the proper angle, and hobble away. To me it is very depressing, because I remember all to well how I *used to be*, and how I am now. I've printed your request in this issue, and hope you will get some replies. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:23:23 -0400 From: John Riddell Subject: Telecom Update (Canada) #229, April 17, 2000 ************************************************************ TELECOM UPDATE Angus TeleManagement's Weekly Telecom Newsbulletin http://www.angustel.ca Number 229: April 17, 2000 Publication of Telecom Update is made possible by generous financial support from: AT&T Canada ...................... http://www.attcanada.com/ Bell Canada ............................ http://www.bell.ca/ Lucent Technologies .................. http://www.lucent.ca/ Sprint Canada .................. http://www.sprintcanada.ca/ Teleglobe Business Solutions ...... http://www.teleglobe.ca/ Telus Communications.................. http://www.telus.com/ TigerTel Services ................. http://www.tigertel.com/ ************************************************************ IN THIS ISSUE: ** Telus and Toronto Agree ** C1 Communications Launches DSL in Toronto ** Competitors Challenge Rebanding Filings ** Rogers Increases Stake in Cogeco ** McGill Hospital Installs Multi-Site Wireless ** Number Portability Reaches Newfoundland ** Canadian Broadband Satellite Planned ** Futureway Files Loop Tariff ** CRTC to Consider Affiliate Rule for CLECs ** Lucent Announces E-Business Strategy ** Cisco Report Says IP PBX Saves Money ** RIM Intros Wireless Palm-Like Device ** Bell Test Links Cellphone to Car Tracking ** Nexxia Transmits Streaming Video Network ** Thunder Bay Tel to Offer Prepaid Wireless ** Survey Says Canada Leads in Online Banking ** Subscriber Growth Quickens at Microcell ** Intersat Becomes Wireless Matrix ** Jarman Moves to Teleglobe ** Bennis Joins Call-Net Board ** Want to Know More? ============================================================ TELUS AND TORONTO AGREE: On April 12, Toronto City Council gave Telus Integrated Communications permission to install fiber under the City's roadways, ending a months-long dispute over terms for using rights-of-way. Details of the agreement were not made public. Telus says it will install 118 km of fiber in Toronto by May 2001. (See Telecom Update #216) C1 COMMUNICATIONS LAUNCHES DSL IN TORONTO: C1 Communications, a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier based in Saint John NB, has launched DSL service in the Greater Toronto region. C1 plans to have coverage in almost all of Toronto, Mississauga, Brampton, Pickering, and Ajax within eight weeks. (See Telecom Update #221) COMPETITORS CHALLENGE REBANDING FILINGS: AT&T Canada, Call- Net, Covad Canada, and GT Group Telecom charge that the incumbent telcos' submissions in PN 2000-27 -- intended to fine-tune telco rate bands based on costs -- are incomplete and do not comply with previous rulings. They want the Commission to suspend the proceeding, order fuller compliance from the telcos, and set a revised schedule. (See Telecom Update #221) http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ENG/public/2000/8661/Pn00-27/2000- 27.htm (Section 4-f) ROGERS INCREASES STAKE IN COGECO: Rogers Communications has increased its holding of Cogeco Inc. equity to 17%. Rogers also holds 12.7% of Cogeco Cable. (See Telecom Update #226) MCGILL HOSPITAL INSTALLS MULTI-SITE WIRELESS: The McGill University Health Centre in Montreal has installed what it says is Canada's first multi-site in-house wireless phone system, using SpectraLink equipment. Two hundred cells cover four Montreal hospitals, served by Mitel and Nortel PBXs. NUMBER PORTABILITY REACHES NEWFOUNDLAND: Local Number Portability will be available in St. John's, Nfld, on or about May 3. LNP will also reach the Quebec exchanges of St- Constant, Ste-Therese, St-Vincent-de-Paul, and Vaudreuil during May. CANADIAN BROADBAND SATELLITE PLANNED: The Canadian Space Agency, part of Industry Canada, will pay $80 Million to add two-way broadband capability to Telesat's Anik F2 satellite, which is scheduled for launch in 2002. Private sector groups will contribute an additional $29 Million. Telesat will repay the government by providing "equivalent value in multimedia satellite services." FUTUREWAY FILES LOOP TARIFF: A year ago, the CRTC allowed an Ontario developer to give Futureway Communications the exclusive right to install cable to homes in its subdivisions (see Telecom Update #178). Futureway has now filed a tariff to allow other local carriers to lease local loops, "on the same basis as is currently offered by Bell Canada to CLEC customers." http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ENG/public/2000/8740/f10-4.htm CRTC TO CONSIDER AFFILIATE RULE FOR CLECs: Public Notice 2000-53 asks whether CLECs should be prohibited from providing services for resale to affiliated service providers if the affiliates don't allow end users a choice of long distance carriers. This would generalize last December's ruling on Microcell (Order 99-1127). To participate, notify the Commission by April 17. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/Notices/2000/PT2000-53.htm LUCENT ANNOUNCES E-BUSINESS STRATEGY: The as-yet-unnamed enterprise networks company being spun off from Lucent has announced "eCommunication," a plan to assist businesses in the transition to e-business. eCommunication will be developed in partnership with Andersen Consulting, eLoyalty, and PricewaterhouseCoopers. (See Telecom Update #223) http://www.lucent.ca/news-ebusiness.htm CISCO REPORT SAYS IP PBX SAVES MONEY: A new study sponsored by Cisco Systems Canada says that a LAN-based IP phone system will cost the owner 19% to 35% less than a traditional PBX or Centrex over three years. Telemanagement #175, available next Monday, will include a review and assessment of the report. RIM INTROS WIRELESS PALM-LIKE DEVICE: Research In Motion has introduced the 957 Wireless Handheld, a palm-sized variant of its BlackBerry pager. The 957 will go on sale in May for $649 plus $49.99/month for always-on airtime. ** Despite a quarterly profit increase of 64% over 1999, RIM shares fell 50% last week because the results fell short of analysts' expectations. BELL TEST LINKS CELLPHONE TO CAR TRACKING: Bell Mobility has begun a trial of location-based services on the NeoPoint 1000 cellphone. A GPS-based tracking system, installed in the user's vehicle, enables the handset to be located while the user is driving. ** A new Bell Mobility service now enables golfers to book tee times from PCS phones. NEXXIA TRANSMITS STREAMING VIDEO NETWORK: Oregon-based Enron Broadband Services, which provides streaming video and other services, will extend its network to six Canadian cities using Bell Nexxia facilities. THUNDER BAY TEL TO OFFER PREPAID WIRELESS: Independent telco Thunder Bay Telephone has launched prepaid cellular service in its northwest Ontario operating territory, using a prepaid wireless platform from Chatham-based Canquest Communications. SURVEY SAYS CANADA LEADS IN ONLINE BANKING: According to an Angus Reid survey, 17% of Canadians bank on line, the highest level in the world. Canada ranked fourth in online shopping, at 18%. SUBSCRIBER GROWTH QUICKENS AT MICROCELL: Microcell Solutions added 69,822 customers in the first quarter, compared to 62,169 last year, bringing its subscriber total to 654,309. INTERSAT BECOMES WIRELESS MATRIX: Interprovincial Satellite Services, which provides wireless data and fax, has changed its name to Wireless Matrix Corp. JARMAN MOVES TO TELEGLOBE: Terry Jarman, formerly Vice- Chairman of Bell Canada, has been named CEO of Teleglobe Communications Corp, located in Reston, Virginia. TCC's previous CEO, Paulo Guidi, continues as Chairman. BENNIS JOINS CALL-NET BOARD: Kevin Bennis, President and CEO of Call-Net Enterprises, has been appointed to the company's Board of Directors. WANT TO KNOW MORE? Telemanagement subscribers get an early heads-up and in-depth analysis of the news reported in Telecom Update. 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If expert advice on the subject matter is required, the services of a competent professional should be obtained. ============================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:45:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark J Cuccia Subject: Re: NPA-NXX Info for Canada, Carribbean Leonard Erickson (shadow@krypton.rain.com) wrote: > www.nanpa.com has files with the NPA-NXX assignments for the US. > But not for the rest of the NANPA. This makes very little sense, > but that's the way it is. > Is there a web site where I can download the equivalent of the > xxUTLZD and xxAVAIL files for the non-US parts of the NANPA? The NANPA assigns NPA-NXX codes for the United States, not for Canada nor the non-US NANP-Caribbean. At NANPA's site, you can get c.o.code detail for the 48-states/DC, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam/CNMI (in the Pacific), as well as the two US Caribbean locations of Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands. When NANPA was spun out of Bellcore, it was intended for the new NANPA to take over c.o.code (NPA-NXX) assignments for all of the _US_ jurisdictions away from the dominant incumbent local telco in that area code, but Canada and the non-US Caribbean didn't indicate that they would turn over c.o.code administration to the NANPA. You can get (web page) lists of c.o.code assignments in Canada, from the Canadian Numbering Administrator's website (the CNAC is presently contracted to SAIC, who are the current owners of Telcordia; Telcordia was previously Bellcore when the at-that-time seven RBOC holding companies each owned an equal 1/7th of Bellcore). The CNAC's website is http://www.cnac.ca The "Numbering Resources" page is http://www.cnac.ca/numb_res.htm You can click on a map of Canada at http://www.cnac.ca/mapcodes.htm to go to individual area code pages of c.o.codes for Canada. The c.o.code administration for the Canadian NPAs/provinces _USED_ to be handled by the dominant incumbent local telco for that NPA, but last year, this was transferred over to the (SAIC's) CNAC. The 600 "SAC" is a Canada-only Special Area Code, but I don't think there is much activity on it - it is for Canadian data functions, Canadian international-inbound functions, Canadian "caller-pays" cellular airtime, etc. The list of 600-NXX code assignments to _carriers_ (similar to the way 800-NXX codes _USED_ to be assigned to carriers prior to 1993/94's introduction of "full" portability; and the way of 456-NXX codes, 900-NXX codes, and 500-NXX codes are presently assigned to carriers), can be found at: http://www.cnac.ca/sac_600.htm As for the Caribbean, when it was all under area code 809, whoever was NANPA at the time assigned the c.o.codes, or at least managed the "range" of c.o.codes (at one time, you could get a decent idea of which country/island the NNX code in 809 was located in by the first one or two digits of the c.o.code, but that changed prior to introduction of N0X and N1X c.o.codes in 809, which was prior to each island/country of the NANP-Caribbean breaking off from 809 into its own unique area code. The NANPA prior to 1984 was AT&T Long Lines and AT&T HQ/Gen'l Depts; With divestiture in 1984, through 1997, Bellcore was the NANPA; In 1998/1999, Lockheed-Martin moved the NANPA out of Bellcore in NJ, but now Warburg-Pincus' "Neustar" is the NANPA, but remaining in Washington DC, with most of the same staff that was with NANPA under Lockheed. When 809 began to break up into unique area codes for each island or country in the NANP-Caribbean, c.o.code assignments was transferred over to the island -- usually the local/island government's regulatory agency or entity created by regulatory/government, but sometimes the c.o.code assignment was now handled "in association with" the dominant incumbent local telco (usually Cable & Wireless or a subsidiary/venture of C&W usually in association with island gov't; or in the case of the Dominican Republic -- GTE/Verizon's "CoDeTel" is the dominant incumbent LEC). The Dominican Republic is the NANP-Caribbean island/country that retained NPA 809. You can go to the following webpages of GTE/Verizon Codetel or one of the competitors (Tricom) to get some kind of list of c.o.codes in NPA 809, Dominican Republic: http://www.codetel.net.do/NXX/ http://www.tricom.net/html/informacion/nxx.html http://www.tricom.net/noticias/nxx.htm Of course, you can always download the "NNAG" from Telcordia-TRA which is a part of the LERG; the NNAG (NPA-NXX Activity Guide) is issued monthly, giving c.o.code change information in the NANP and can be downloaded FOR FREE from Telcordia-TRA's website, http://www.trainfo.com Other TRA products, such as the LERG (Local Exchange Routing Guide) or the NNACL (NPA-NXX Active Code List) must be purchased from TRA, but their catalog of products is available from the TRA website. NANP-Caribbean c.o.code data (as well as Canadian NPA-NXXes) are included in TRA's products. MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497 WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497) Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:33:54 -0700 From: Linc Madison Subject: Re: Kansas Getting Area Code Split PAT wrote in Vol 20 # 71: > A notice in the {Independence Reporter}, Sunday, April 16, 2000: > The Kansas Corporation Commission has established a public comment > period concerning the need to add a new area code within the > geographic area served by the 316 area code ... > Under the overlay plan, ... for technical reasons it is required > that ten-digit dialing be used ON ALL CALLS, EVEN THOSE IN A NEARBY > COMMUNITY OR THE SAME COMMUNITY. ... Since many customers ... in > the several instances in > which a community 'straddles' the state line, such as ... Arkansas > City, KS and Ponca City, OK (918 area), Liberal, KS and rural > Oklahoma points (918 area) It would seem that either the KCC or the {Independence Reporter} is not well versed on the area codes in Oklahoma. Neither Ponca City, nor especially the towns across from Liberal, are in the 918 area code. All are in the 580 area code, having split from 405. South Coffeyville, OK, is in 918, though. As regards the geographic split, if the projected lives really are six years for Wichita and 24 years for the rest of 316, the plan won't pass federal review. Either the line will have to be drawn more tightly around Wichita, placing even some of the suburbs in the new area code, or there will have to be an overlay, at least of the Wichita area. Even in the event of an overlay, consideration should be given to the possibility of allowing calling areas, especially those with only a single prefix, to retain 7D local dialing until and unless a prefix in the overlay code is assigned within the local area. Quite a lot of the land area of 316 is fairly sparsely populated. If the decision is for a split, I hope that the KCC will have the foresight to avoid some of the mistakes made by the PUC-Texas in its splits of 214 and 817. Specifically, the split line should be drawn such that absolutely *ALL* calls within the remaining 316 area are absolutely always local. With the 214/903 split and the 817/254/940 split, there remain toll calls within 817 (soon to be 817/682) and 214 (now 214/972/469). Such a split boundary is inexcusable in terms of customer confusion. It's better to have a few 10D local calls to the suburbs than to have any 1+10D toll calls within such a small geographic area code. Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * Telecom-at-LincMad.com North American Telephone Area Codes & Splits ------------------------------ From: ellis@ftel.net (Rick Ellis) Subject: Re: Kansas Getting Area Code Split Date: 17 Apr 2000 17:52:32 GMT Organization: Franklin interNet http://www.franklin.net In article , TELECOM Digest Editor wrote: > for technical reasons it is required that > ten-digit dialing be used ON ALL CALLS, EVEN THOSE IN A NEARBY > COMMUNITY OR THE SAME COMMUNITY. For technical reasons? What possible technical reasons could require ten-digit dialing for a number in the same NPA? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The reason which comes to my mind is the problem of overlapping prefixes and area codes. For example, you could not have a prefix '316' while it was possible to also use 316 as an area code. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #73 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Mon Apr 17 23:31:59 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA27770; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:31:59 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004180331.XAA27770@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #74 TELECOM Digest Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:31:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 74 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson 4/17 ICBTollFree.Com Heads Up Headlines (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Area Codes/Zip Codes Database Wanted (Al Varney) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Leonard Erickson) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Herb Sutherland) Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (Mark J. Cuccia) Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (Leonard Erickson) Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? (Phil Bergstresser) Doing the Jailhouse Rock (Monty Solomon) Comments on Handset -> RJ11 Converters For Modems? (Phil Earnhardt) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. 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For telco use, the term is 'Numbering Plan Areas' and has been > for many, many years. PAT] Since the Digest is considered an authority by many, let me suggest a clarification to PAT's note. In the September 1952 issue of the Bell System Technical Journal, the article "Nationwide Numbering Plan" first described the details in the assignment of 10-digit customer-dialable telephone numbers to the USA and Canada. The key to the two phrases is in the following sentence: "In principle the method employed is to divide the two countries geographically into numbering plan areas and to give each of these areas a distinctive code." The article goes on to use the two terms in the following manner: Numbering Plan Areas (NPAs) refer to the geographic zones created by the new system, and three-digit "codes" are assigned to those NPAs. So, pedantically, we have Numbering Plan Area Codes (referred to in older literature as Area Codes, where it was obvious that the USA/ Canadian numbering plan is being discussed). Occasionally, the phrase "NPA code" is seen. It is only in later literature (much later) that the NPA acronym is seen as a direct substitute for the first three digits of a telephone number (as a formatted NPA-NXX-XXXX string), and then used in informal conversation and sloppy writing as a synonym for "NPA code". Certainly the majority of Bell System and Bellcore documents distinguished between NPA (the geographic area) and the NPA code (the 3-digit numbers assigned to those areas). In "consumer" literature, the opposite effect is seen. That is, the phrase "area code" (rather than NPA) is used to refer to a geographic area. The 785 area code is a number -- the area assigned that number is a NPA. Al Varney ------------------------------ From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:05:36 PST Organization: Shadownet Jeremy Greene writes: > If I can sync the clock on my $500 home PC to an atomic clock with a > piece of free software, why can't GTE do the same? Heck, spend the $30 at Radio Shack and get their portable battery powered clock that sets itself via the WWV/WWVH time signal once you tell it what time zone you are in. It even switches to DST automatically if you observe DST. I use mine to reset the (badly drifting) clock on my Netware server every so often. Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow) shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 00 10:59:35 PDT From: Herb Sutherland Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style The free number all around Southern California (whether PacBell or GTE) is 853-1212 and that does seem to take up the entire prefix. I have also noticed that you can dial 1-626-357-1212 from anywhere if you want to hear GTE time and date! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:55:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark J Cuccia Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan georgep_on_ca@my-deja.com wrote: > The NANP http://www.nanpa.com/ is running out of area codes. > The CNAC http://www.cnac.ca/ says it may run out by 2007 using > industry notes. There have been many predictions by the US/Canada telephone industry (including regulatory) that have projected 2007 as the date that NPA (area) codes might "run out" by 2007. This MIGHT turn out to be a "scare" tactic, though. > It outlines recommendations for Canada when this does occur!!! > The Canadian Numbering Administrator http://www.cnac.ca/ has > recommended to the Canadian Radio And Telecommunications > Commission (CRTC) http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ (an agency of The > Government of Canada http://www.gc.ca/) That Canada should get > its own country code. Um, EXCUSE ME, but I DON'T think that the CNAC nor the various Canadian-based telecom industry forums (CSCN, CISC, etc) have made any specific ONE recommendation of the VARIOUS ATIS/INC or Canadian proposals as to how to handle an expanding NANP, nor the POSSIBILITY that Canada either completely withdraw" from the NANP, nor that Canada be "semi" NANP. There are various concerns and proposals to address these concerns that are now being SUBMITTED to the CRTC for review, and public comment. > In it's recommendation its says that ten-digit dialing would > be enough for Canada and that the mess that would occur with > expanding the NANP[A] would not benefit Canada. In summmary it > recommends that Canada adapts it's own country code, following > International Telephone Union http://www.itu.int/ rules for > new codes Canada would get a new code under the 100 country > code. The rest of The NANP[A] would stay the same. AGAIN, this is only ONE option of SEVERAL proposals as to how Canada would participate in a longer-than-ten-digit NANP format or withdraw "completely" from the NANP, or become "semi" NANP. > Calls from the USA to Canada would be dialed as > 011-100-416-555-1212 > Calls from Canada to the USA would be dialed as > 011-1-2x12-5x55-1212 (or what ever expand thing the USA uses.) Um, EXCUSE ME AGAIN, but if you reference paragraph 62 of the URL you quote below http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/Notices/2000/PT2000-52.htm you'll find the following: "Calls within Canada would be dialed on a 10-digit basis;" (This "straight" ten-digit dialing would apply regardless of the local or toll status of the destination number with respect to the calling number - both numbers being within Canada) "Calls to other NANP nations would be dialed on a 1+ 11 or 12 digits, depending on the expansion option implemented in the NANP;" Note that calls from Canada to other NANP countries would NOT include the 011+. Since a 1+ would not be used for sent-paid traffic within Canada, this particular proposed option would "allow" the 1+ to be used FROM Canada TO US/NANP calling. I don't know how "special billed" traffic would still be dialed, I guess a 0+ ten-digits within Canada ... If this plan were to be adopted, there might have to be some changes in what Canada dials for calls to other country codes for "special billing" and/or sent-paid traffic, since presently, Canada used the NANP-standard of 011+ for sent-paid, and 01+ for "special" billed traffic. Since presently, you are NOT supposed to be able to dial a sent-paid intra-NANP call as 011+ cc.1+ as an "alternate" way to dial 1+ sent-paid intra-NANP call, there was never a concern as to any potential "alternate" way to dial a "special billed" intra-NANP call as 01+ cc.1+ since this would REALLY be dialing a SENT-PAID call that could terminate in some other country overseas, ie.. 011+ nxx-etc. is what you'd REALLY be dialing! (I've always hoped that 01+ for "special" billed international would be phased over to 010+, which could then allow UNambiguous 011+1+ for sent-paid inTRA-NANP and 010+1+ for "special billed" inTRA-NANP "alternative" methods). Continuing from the document: "Calls from other NANP nations would be dialed as 100+10 digits;" Note that this does NOT include the 011+ prefix. Since there are no documented plans for expanding "Carrier" codes from their present mandatory format of 101-XXXX+ (101+ four-digits) over to 10-XXXXX+ (10+ five-digits), and since 10-XXX+ (10+ three-digits) has been obsolete in both the US (since Summer 1998) and Canada (as of Spring 1999), the '100XX' (as well as the '10NXX', N=2->9, X=0->9) dial string is not assigned to anything. In many central office switches in the NANP, dialing 100, 102, ... 109 -- will result in a re-order (fast busy) or a recorded announcement, JUST on those three digits. Some will let you dial further but give you a recorded announcement telling you that if you tried to dial a five digit 10-XXX+ code, it has changed -- and to add an extra '1' and '0' in front, as 1010-XXX+. The PREVIOUSLY existing 10-XXX+ codes were permissive (since 1994) and mandatory (since 1998/99) as 101-0XXX+ (there had been no 10-10X+ nor 10-15X+ nor 10-16X+ codes assigned in the 10-XXX+ days, thus the 101-0XXX+ format could be used for expansion of previously existing 10-XXX+ codes, and 101-5XXX+ / 101-6XXX+ codes could be new ranges even when 10-XXX+ was still allowed. Thus, 100+ "could" be used with no earlier IDDD access prefix for US/NANP dialing to Canada, as 100+ ten-digits. > Calls from other countries to Canada would be dialed as > 00-100-416-555-1212 (calls overlay or split) and 11-digit for > all long distance calls. In the document, there is a mistake regarding calls from "other" countries (i.e., non-NANP) to Canada, where they (mis)quote it as: "International calls from other nations (non-NANP) would be dialed as 011+100+10 digit, with 011 reflecting the international access code." Of course, '00+' is the common International exit code used from most parts of the world, and you do indicate this in your post. But the Canadian document does mention that '011' "reflects" what the international exit code would be from that other non-NANP country. However, I am unsure as to what you are referring to after you mention the directory assistance number for Toronto....(?) > Check out these document filled with The CRTC at > http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/Notices/2000/PT2000-52.htm > and http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/Notices/2000/PT2000-52-1.htm > As well as these pages > http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ENG/public/2000/8621/Pn52/C12-02.htm I have -- and I have been seeing the various proposals from things that can be downloaded by surfing throught the CNAC website, http://www.cnac.ca as to NANP expansion and what does Canada like as to such proposals, or to become "semi-NANP" or even completely withdraw from the NANP. Continuing from the CRTC document, in paragraph 63: "The report notes that should Canada be unable to negotiate the use of Country Code 100, calls between existing NANP nations would be dialed as an international call (e.g, 011+CC+10-digits)." I have seen the actual report of this proposal ... and actually, if Canada couldn't "easily" become "country" code 100 (the ITU can't simply assign/reserve +100 for Canada, because of various numbering/dialing situations, some of which I have described above, within what would retain the NANP, +1, and even what presently exists within Canada ... yes, for Canada to actually become '100' would need to be negotiated with the other areas retaining +1 NANP as their country code, and then be relayed to the ITU as well for "official" worldwide assignment) ... then if they couldn't become '100', then Canada would have to apply to the ITU to get SOME OTHER three-digit country code, possibly beginning with a '2' (2XX) which would be in (mostly) Africa's country-code numbering range. However, since there have been some changes in Europe over the past several years, Canada "could" apply for a +42X country code in Europe's range, or some other three-digit country code range not beginning with '1' (nor '0', since the ITU hasn't yet opened up any 0XX ranges for future country codes; that might not happen after all because of EMBEDDED presently existing numbering/dialing constraints in place within (and between) various telcos/countries in the world, as well as between various telecom "networks"... (i.e., the use of reaching E.164 Telco ISDN networks from X.121 Packet switched data networks uses an "escape" digit of '0', and 0XX format telephone country codes would conflict with this already used '0' escape digit for traffic from X.121 Packet Data networks to E.164 Telco/ISDN networks; Also, Mexico is using a '0' after some of their international exit prefixes for telco use, as part of THEIR dialing pattern for competitive toll choice). There have been some "errors" in the document at the CRTC site, but I have found TOO MANY errors/misconceptions in the previous post on this subject to TELECOM-Digest as well! Personally, I don't know "when" or even "if" the NANP will expand in our lifetime. And for Canada to withdraw from the NANP, it will mean MAJOR changes for public notification and telco networks' translations tables and routing procedures, as well as billing processing. There is just WAY TOO much commerce and telco traffic between the US and Canada -- the CRTC document even wants public input to address social and economic impacts of Canada becoming "semi" NANP, completely withdrawing from the NANP, or simply adopting the NANP expansion plan - whichever one would ultimately be adopted by the NANP/DDD telephone industry. When "interchangeable" NPA codes came into use in 1995, and when three-digit CIC / five-digit CAC codes (10-XXX+) needed to be expanded into four-digit CIC / seven-digit CAC codes (101-0XXX+) for an ultimate pool of 101-XXXX+, Canada did work closely with the US part of the NANP for smooth inter-operation and standards. Also, there might be some previous agreements of Canada with the NANP industry that when/if the NANP would ultimately expand past ten-digits, that Canada would work "hand-in-hand" with the US for a smooth multi-national (the Caribbean as well) to go to some eleven or even twelve or whatever "signficant" NANP number. But what is at the CRTC (and possibly CNAC/CSCN/CRTC site(s)) is text of various proposals - some general NANP proposals, some specific Canadian proposals. So far, there is no "official" recommendation regarding NANP-expansion nor Canadian options, ONLY several POSSIBILITIES to be discussed and get public input! MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497 WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497) Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail- NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Cl.5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-) to become a #5ESS (yeah!), NWORLASKDS0, 12:01am SAT-11-NOV-2000 NWORLAIYCM3 (BellSouth-Mobility Ericsson Cellular-MTSO NOL) NWORLAMT01T (BellSouth DMS-100 "Metairie" Tndm; Cellular routes thru) NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 inTRA-LATA/fg.BCD Tndm "Main" 504+) NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:inLATA OprSvcTndm "Main" 504+053+) NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+) JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121) JCSNMSPS14T (AT&T #4ESS Class-3 Toll 040-T / 601-2T; OSPS routes thru) NWORLATUDS0?(PBX NEC-2400 504-862-3/8xxx, 504-865-4/5/6xxx) NWORLACADS0 (BellSo.DMS-100 Cl.5 Lcl "Carrollton" 504-86x-;PBX 'homes' on) ------------------------------ From: shadow@krypton.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:35:43 PST Organization: Shadownet J.F. Mezei writes: > Is there some logic in determining how long a country code is to be? > (eg: codes beginning with two are three digits, codes with four are > two digits etc etc)? Not exactly. The logic that is used is that a country code must *uniquely* identify a country. Which means that no country code can start with a valid country code. That is, if A is a valid country code, then AB is *not* a possible country code. Thus, since 1 and 7 are country codes, no other codes may start with 1 or 7. Likewise, 20 is a valid country code, so no other codes can start with 20. This makes things simpler for phone systems since it means they can *know* when they've reached the end of the country code part of the number, unambiguously. So the proposed "100" for Canada *isn't* a country code. It's just giving Canada's *area codes* a "00" prefix when dialed from outside Canada. Which would be fine, since the US isn't going to be using 00xx area codes. Leonard Erickson (aka Shadow) shadow@krypton.rain.com <--preferred leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com <--last resort ------------------------------ From: Phil Bergstresser Subject: Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:30:17 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com I think you have confused out-of-area with number suppression. Out of area just means the caller ID was not delivered, due to the caller using a "cheap" (other euphemisms apply) service that doesn't support the feature. What you can disable is caller's who elect to inhibit normal delivery of their identification by dialing a prefix that suppresses the delivery. Their choice here is like suppressing call waiting before they originate a call. This is not available in all states. However, the privacy option for you allows you to prevent the reception of calls from people who voluntarily suppress their identification. If you select this option, they get a message that their call won't be completed unless they reveal their identy, and you are never bothered by those callers. If they don't want to tell you who they are, then you can refuse to take their calls. Good option. It's too bad not everyone has been required to implement caller ID delivery. Most of the telephone solicitors have learned that suppression doesn't work for the reasons given above, so they buy a service that doesn't have it implemented. Shouldn't be! Most of the time you can ignore out of area calls these days, but some cellular phone providers and small regional telcos don't provide the ID, and you can miss a call from a relative on the road using a cell phone trying to call for help, so that doesn't work reliably. So rejection of out-of-area calls is not a likely or desirable option. Phil Bergstresser Marietta Georgia wrote in message ... > I *think* I saw this question answered here once before but I'm not > sure. > Does anyone know what calls that show up as Out-Of-Area 000-000-0000 > are? > This number comes through on a system that has BellSouth's Privacy > Director which is supposed to reject out-of-area calls. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:40:37 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Doing the Jailhouse Rock Interested in those powerful new tools for swapping MP3 files? So's the FBI -- and the crackdown begins next month. by Tom Spring, PC World April 12, 2000, 10:00 p.m. PT Pirates. That's all the infuriated music industry sees in Napster, the first online application that lets you download basically any MP3 music without spending a dime. In fact, the Recording Industry Association of America has pushed Napster out on the plank: A San Francisco judge soon will rule on its lawsuit alleging Napster runs a giant haven for music piracy. http://www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/pcwtoday?ID=16248 ------------------------------ From: Phil Earnhardt Subject: Comments on Handset -> RJ11 Converters For Modems? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:17:22 -0600 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com What comments do people have about the "Modem Doublers" that allow connection of an analog modem through the handset connection? Any particular types that work better or worse? What sort of optimal transfer rates should I expect? TIA. phil ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #74 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Tue Apr 18 18:07:51 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA07602; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004182207.SAA07602@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #75 TELECOM Digest Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:07:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 75 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Panasonic KX Series Programming Software for Windows (Dmitry Nikiforov) Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? (Ed Ellers) Panasonic and Other Manuals (2 Sites) (Chris Walsh) Re: Siemens Gigaset 2400 Series (Tracy J. Di Marco White) Re: Web Security, Privacy, and the Big Lie (John S. Maddaus) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (Robert Wiegand) Re: Western Electric 302 Phone (was Need Help With Antique) (Joseph Singer) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Ed Ellers) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Marcus Aakesson) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Richard D.G. Cox) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (Michael Hartley) Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (James Bellaire) Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (Ian Angus) Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (Ed Ellers) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dmitry Nikiforov Subject: Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 Programming Software for Windows Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:31:40 +0400 Organization: Garant-Park-Telecom Dmitry Nikiforov, Manager ZEOSoft Corp. Tel: 7-095-3068814 admin@pbxsoftware.com http://www.pbxsoftware.com Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 Programming Software for Windows ZEOSoft Corp. (http://www.pbxsoftware.com) has released the new version of Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 Programming Software which allows Panasonic PBX installers and users to program their PBX using any PBX firmware ROM version (http://www.pbxsoftware.com/winprog.shtml). Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 Programming Software successfully works with any version of PBX KX-TD firmware all over the world. The list of the countries in which this program is in use includes more than 30 countries from 5 continents. And this list keeps growing. Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 Programming Software can be useful for Panasonic KX-TD installers and programmers who work with different versions of Panasonic KX-TD PBX and even for end users, who can easily program their own PBX usibg friendly interface and built - in user help. Main features of Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 Programming Software: easy understandable interface; full compatibility with any Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 ROM version (including Dash3 version); supporting all features of Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 ROM version from any region; easy program data copying from one Panasonic PBX to another to prevent loosing settings for any reason; easy and quick program simultaneous multiple data for Extensions or CO Lines; remote programming compatibility; if you want to decrease the cost of your system, with our Software you do not need any proprietary phone to be connected to Panasonic PBX; technical support and easy upgrade for new versions of Panasonic ROM. The low cost of Panasonic KX-TD1232/KX-TD816/KX-TD308 Programming Software (only $ 50) makes it affordable not only for companies engaged in sale and installation of Panasonic KX-TD PBX, but also for firms and even individuals who own Panasonic KX-TD PBX. ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:46:14 -0400 Phil Bergstresser wrote: > It's too bad not everyone has been required to implement caller ID > delivery. Most of the telephone solicitors have learned that suppression > doesn't work for the reasons given above, so they buy a service that doesn't > have it implemented. Shouldn't be! True, but one problem is that if a telemarketer has a direct T1 or similar line to a long-distance carrier from his "boiler room" -- which would often be cheaper than running POTS lines to each phone if the operation is big enough -- there would be no phone number to deliver because the calls don't originate from a PSTN line. The only way to fix that would be an FCC rule requiring such customers to specify a phone number to be sent in the Caller ID. (If a criminal investigation were involved in which a call had to be traced, yes, the long-distance carrier could certainly tell where the call came from. But this is a different issue.) > Most of the time you can ignore out of area calls these days, but some > cellular phone providers and small regional telcos don't provide the > ID, and you can miss a call from a relative on the road using a cell > phone trying to call for help, so that doesn't work reliably. > So rejection of out-of-area calls is not a likely or desirable option. > Phil Bergstresser > Marietta Georgia wrote in message ... >> I *think* I saw this question answered here once before but I'm not >> sure. >> Does anyone know what calls that show up as Out-Of-Area 000-000-0000 >> are? >> This number comes through on a system that has BellSouth's Privacy >> Director which is supposed to reject out-of-area calls. ------------------------------ From: Chris Walsh Subject: Panasonic and Other Manuals (Two Sites) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:25:23 GMT Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Hello, I have tried to assist a few of you folks with some information on manuals in the past few days, and I think I've got a couple of good solutions: pbxsoftware.com- A good small site that sells all of the manuals and software necessary to program Panasonics KX-TD series of systems. (Voicemail as well). Automatedinfoinc.com-This is the place where we got all of the manuals for the interconnect I used to own. They offer a lot of them over the web as downloads. Good Luck, Chris Walsh tellearn.com 1-877-532-7616 ------------------------------ From: gendalia@iastate.edu (Tracy J. Di Marco White) Subject: Re: Siemens Gigaset 2400 Series Date: 17 Apr 2000 19:17:44 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa John Nagle wrote: > Don House wrote: >> We have been told that the Gigasets will not work with a line carrying ADSL. >> I hope to test this and will let you know what I find out. > Yes, let us know. I'm about to do that. > What goes wrong? Do the Gigasets emit noise that jams the DSL > signal, or does the DSL signal make it into the Gigasets and cause > noise in the audio channel? We have had the Gigaset 2400 and a couple handsets for a month or so. We have ADSL from US West. It all works fine. Mileage may vary with other implementations of DSL. Tracy J. Di Marco White gendalia@iastate.edu "Actually this is a common misconception...I do *not* in fact have a lot of time on my hands at all! I just have a very very very very bad sense of priorities." --Dean Engelhardt ------------------------------ From: jmaddaus@NO_SPAM.usa.net (John S. Maddaus) Subject: Re: Web Security, Privacy, and the Big Lie Reply-To: jmaddaus@NO_SPAM.usa.net Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:39:05 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Monty Solomon wrote: > Excerpt from PRIVACY Forum Digest V09 #12 > http://www.vortex.com/privacy/priv.09.12 > this such goodies as the newly revealed Microsoft FrontPage 98 > Web-authoring "back door" pass-phrase ("Netscape engineers are > weenies"), which not only raise new security fears, but should also > trigger a reevaluation of both quality control worries and concerns > about the emotional maturity of the authors of such important software > systems. Yes and what else did they put into other offerings? Remember the Excel 97 Flight Sim? Note any MS arrogance in the scolling verbage? For those who haven't tried it yet, the following will get you in: Proof that microsoft programmers have too much time on their hands This works on any Win95/NT PC with Microsoft Excel 97 installed: Instructions: 1 In Excel 97, open a new blank worksheet. 2 Press F5 (go to) and type in the range X97:L97 3 Click OK. 4 Now press Tab once (this should put you in cell M97) 5 Press Ctrl+Shift while clicking once on the chart wizard button (the blue-yellow-red barchart icon). After a few moments, you will be flying over an eerie fractal landscape. Fly around awhile and soon you'll notice a mesa with a shallow depression and a small scrolling shrine to Excel 97 and those who made it happen. Careful, the controls are very sensitive. Click right/left button on mouse to go forwards, backwards, slide to turn. You can exit the screen by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Esc. jmaddaus@usa.net ------------------------------ From: Robert Wiegand Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:57:11 -0500 Organization: Motorola CIG Hudson Leighton wrote: > I wouldn't call it arrogant, I would call it common sense, with most > phone calls dumping you into "Press 1 to be put on hold h*ell", it's > much easier to use a speakerphone, then it is to hold onto a handset > and try to get some work done. So just switch to speakerphone after you get the machine. Be nice to the people who actually answer their phones. "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" wrote: > I'm astonished at the number of negative responses to this. Do people > really have so little else to worry about that the fraction of a > second it takes to switch from speakerphone to handset seems > important? It isn't the time - this is just one of many annoyances we have to put up with each day. It just seems sometimes that many people don't make any effort to be nice. They just do whatever is easiest for themselves. Personally I never use a speaker phone unless I'm on hold and no one else is around to be bothered by the noise or there are other people who need to hear the call. Regards, Bob Wiegand wiegand@enteract.com ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:23:56 -0400 Stanley Cline wrote: > In BellSouth territory, BellSouth itself doesn't provide time of day > numbers, but various businesses (banks, churches, etc.) offer free > time of day numbers." (502) 585-5961 in Louisville, Kentucky is another example. This was operated by the telco for a sponsor, Citizens Fidelity Bank, from some time in 1939 (then under a six-digit number ending in 5961) until divestiture. After that BellSouth ran it for a while with no sponsorship until someone else (dunno who) started providing a time/temperature service on that number, with various sponsors. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:32:08 -0700 From: Joseph Singer Subject: Re: Western Electric 302 Phone (was Need Help With Antique) Roy Smith wrote recently: > I've got an antique Western Electric phone that I want to clean up and > restore to use. It's a desk set, heavy black metal body, cloth cord, > with the number "302-C-3" stamped on the bottom (which I assume is a > model number). > Anybody have any information about it? When it might have been made > (I'm guessing around 1940)? Any ideas for how to clean up the > exterior finish without ruining it? It looks like some kind of > lacquer, and I'm afraid to use either any kind of abrasive or solvent > on it. A wiring diagram would be great to have! > The handset has cast into it the familiar "Western Electric" logo (in > the classic lightning-bolt font, "Bell System", and in smaller type > below it "F1", which I'm guessing is some sort of manufacturing code > identifying the date and/or plant it was made in? Yes, this is a model 302 Western Electric telephone. It was first introduced in 1937. The 302 was among the telephones designed by Henry Dreyfus (see ) This telephone originally was made with a metal case. From the onset of World War II the design of the case was changed from a metal case to a thermoplastic case. The handset with the marking F-1 indicates the model of the handset. The handset on the earlier oval based 202 and round based 102 had an E-1 handset which was distinguishable from modern handsets in that it had the "spit cup" or "bullet" at the transmitter end of the handset. To determine the date that the phone was manufactured you will have to look inside the phone and somewhere on the base panel it should have a manufacture date. You can also get some idea of when some of the components in the phone were manufactured by looking at the transmitter and receiver elements. They will likely have dates on them as well. A later "squared" handset was introduced with the designation of a "K" handset. As for maintaining the finish of the phone it somewhat depends on whether your set has the thermoplastic or metal case. For the thermoplastic case it is recommended that you use a quality plastic polish such as Novus which comes in three strengths. 3 is for severely scratched and has more abrasive, 2 is a cleaner and 1 is a polish. If the finish just needs touching up the number 2 or number 1 should work well. Also, I have found that a polish that is readily available in auto parts stores by Maguiar's also does the job well also. This is a link to find out how to order a book that will give you information on technology of old telephones and how to restore them and wire them: I hope this is of some help to you. Joseph Singer "thefoneguy" PO Box 23135, Seattle WA 98102 USA +1 206 405 2052 [voice mail] +1 206 493 0706 [FAX] ------------------------------ From: Marcus Aakesson Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:36:25 +0200 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:08:24 -0400, J.F. Mezei wrote: > Since my link to the provider is through the SIM card which > identifies me, and since I can freely insert my SIM card into any > other GSM phone that will accept it (unlocked), I am curious as to > how the providers track down the association of SIM with phone? The call detail logs keep track of the IMSI/IMEI pair for every call You make. They _can_ se if you switch phones. Note however, that those data are normally never available for customer service, and are not in your account profile. But if they really wanted to, they could find out, for example in a legal matter or as evidence. > Do they just keep the last IMEI used by that subscriber's SIM card ? > Or do they require that you register at least one IMEI when you > start the service with them, and that is the IMEI that they keep on > record? Nope. They normally don't know at all. See my other replies in this thread. Marcus AAkesson marcus.akesson@NO_SPAM_PLEASE_home.se Gothenburg Callsigns: SM6XFN & SB4779 Sweden >>>>>> Keep the world clean - no HTML in news or mail ! <<<<<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:51 +0100 (BST) From: Richard@office.mandarin.com (Richard D G Cox) Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Marcus AAkesson said: Since we don't buy phones from the network operators, they have no contact with the phones, and don't care. They do however enforce the blacklist. This is a less common scenario, because most mobile networks subsidise the handsets and are therefore most concerned to ensure that the handsets they have subsidised do not get used on their competitors' networks. In any event, how do you get "your" stolen handset listed on the Dublin blacklist, if not through your GSM operator? And if they don't have any details of what handset is/was yours, how can they validate that your report of the stolen IMEI is accurate? For all they know, your report could be a malicious attempt to have somebody else's phone blacklisted. Richard D G Cox Mandarin Technology, P.O. Box 111, Penarth, South Glamorgan, CF64 3YG UK Telephone: +44 1222 311111; Fax: +44 1222 311110; Pager: +44 76 4111 5555 Senders of genuine e-mail should remove "office" from the e-mail address. ------------------------------ From: Michael Hartley Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:29:39 +0100 As many people have pointed out, the IMEI number is carried on packaging, the phone itself and usually on any delivery paperwork. If it's a contract phone then the network may also have the IMEI. If the phone is a pre-pay, and *especially* if it's unregistered, the network may not have the IMEI, so *#06# actually becomes useful rather than just another *#XX# code for geeks to punch into their phone. International blacklisting - the GSM MOI provides for an international EIR (equipment identity register) but as far as I know it's not in very wide use. I'll resist the temptation to make disparaging comparisons between features provided by the de facto world standard and those which may be available on other standards ;+) Also you'll be pleased to know that I think someone at the UK magazine New Scientist appears to read TELECOM Digest: the mag had a couple of column inches on Mike S's anti telemarketer box. Not sure if UK standards would allow the same here and unless Mike is spamming I guess TELECOM Digest is where it came from. Hope the spring weather brings you good spirits and improving health. (Well, it's spring on this side of the pond today anyway ...) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A lot of people read TELECOM Digest. More, I suspect, than I imagine. I've found quotes from the Digest in various places. Thanks for telling me about {New Scientist}. As far as my health is concerned, I think it has reached a plateau; it has gotten about as far as it is going. Not only is my handwriting *terrible* (it used to be very decent) as a result of the aneurism, but I still have a problem with the keys on a keyboard. I hate to fill out forms because by the time I am finished with it, it appears to be a very childish form of scribbling. In my speech I still do not talk very much; my speech is slow, and my words sometimes are jumbled. I have to *THINK* about what I want to say, and then speak the words one at a time, very carefully. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:29:34 -0500 From: James Bellaire Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan At 06:32 PM 4/16/2000 -0400, georgep_on_ca@my-deja.com wrote: > The Canadian Numbering Administrator http://www.cnac.ca/ has > recommended to the Canadian Radio And Telecommunications > Commission (CRTC) http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ (an agency of The > Government of Canada http://www.gc.ca/) That Canada should > get its own country code An excellent plan! The requirement is that all new country codes be three digits, not necessarily '100' but moving to 100 would be handy. I wonder if Canada would mind if other nations joined in? Or would the ITU allow for 101 for those nations? It does offer new possibilities. So far the general thought was what to do WITHIN zone 1 hasn't had an opt-out option. Thanks for the post! James Bellaire http://tk.com/telecom/ Telecom Indiana & Chicago ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:28:24 -0400 From: Ian Angus Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan georgep_on_ca@my-deja.com wrote: > The Canadian Numbering Administrator http://www.cnac.ca/ has recommended > to the Canadian Radio And Telecommunications Commission > (CRTC) http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ (an agency of The Government of Canada > http://www.gc.ca/) That Canada should get its own country code That's not correct. First, the CNA itself hasn't actually written anything official on this subject yet. The body which wrote the document in question is the Canadian Steering Committee on Numbering, which is a sub-committee of the CRTC Industry Steering Committee, a body set up by Canada's federal regulator to resolve and advise on technical issues. The CNA is a separate organization which participates in the CSCN. Second, the CSCN document does NOT recommend that Canada have its own country code. It simply recommends that the CRTC ask the Industry Numbering Committee consider that option in addition to others identified in INC's December 10 "Interim NANP Expansion Report." The CSCN wants to keep that option open so that Canada would have that option if it desired. The CRTC's public notice asks for comment on all of the options identified in INC's report, plus the separate Canadian country code. Ian Angus President, Angus TeleManagement Group http://www.angustel.ca ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:14:32 -0400 J.F. Mezei wrote: > Is there some logic in determining how long a country code is to be? > (eg: codes beginning with two are three digits, codes with four are > two digits etc etc)?" Not exactly like that. My guess is that country code length is based in part on the size of the country or region (which would have an influence on the length of national numbers). ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #75 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Tue Apr 18 20:01:05 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA11928; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:01:05 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004190001.UAA11928@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #76 TELECOM Digest Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:01:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 76 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Online Source For Phone Hub? (Beatlebum) Hai! (Kiran Kumar G M) Re: Washington State Fines Qwest (Paul R. Joslin) Re: Web Security, Privacy, and the Big Lie (John S. Maddaus) For Sale: CyberGenie Wireless Phone System on Ebay (tesla1@pobox.com) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Dave Tweed) Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? (RFD) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (Peter Corlett) Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers (Jeremy Greene) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (W. Hatfield) Dialpad.com (Kerry Linthicum) Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? (Patrick Tufts) Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles (David Clayton) Re: Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP (Steve Sobol) Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? (Anthony Argyriou) Hey, Babe, Wanna Call ... Chad? (Mike Pollock) Re: Looking for Porn? Ask Chad (Jenn Martino) Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Jenn Martino) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. Contact information: Patrick Townson/TELECOM Digest Post Office Box 259 Independence, KS 67301 Phone: 805-545-5115 Email: editor@telecom-digest.org Subscribe/unsubscribe: subscriptions@telecom-digest.org This Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal about telecomm- unications on the Internet, having been founded in August, 1981 and published continuously since then. Our archives are available for your review/research. 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All rights reserved. Our attorney is Bill Levant, of Blue Bell, PA. In addition, a gift from Mike Sandman, Chicago's Telecom Expert has enabled me to replace some obsolete computer equipment and enter the 21st century sort of on schedule. His mail order telephone parts/supplies service based in the Chicago area has been widely recognized by Digest readers as a reliable and very inexpensive source of telecom-related equipment. Please request a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beatlebum@MailandNews.com (Beatlebum) Subject: Online Source for Phone Hub? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:12:15 GMT Organization: (C) Writing Revisionist History Since 1967 I need an 8/16 port rack style phone hub. I know these things exist, however, I can't seem to find them in any of the online catalogs. I would be grateful if someone would recommend a supplier and brand name with a specific URL. TIA ------------------------------ From: Kiran Kumar G M Subject: Hai! Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:39:33 +0530 Hello Sir, I was just looking for a brief write up that how does FAX machines work and also different types of machines and standards, if you could send me this or the web page address where I can find this also will be of great help. Thanks and Regards, KIRAN KUMAR G.M. Sr. Telecom Engineer Network Solutions Ltd. ------------------------------ From: paul.joslin@weirdness.com (Paul R. Joslin) Subject: Re: Washington State Fines Qwest Date: 18 Apr 2000 12:11:33 -0400 Organization: Structural Dynamics Research Corp. Tad Cook noted: > from MSNBC ( http://www.msnbc.com/local/KING/664118.asp?0a=2224132- ) > Huge fine for payphone overcharges > OLYMPIA, April 12 - A Denver-based company that overcharged thousands > of customers at pay phones around Washington will pay a record $1 > million fine and $700,000 in refunds under a deal approved Wednesday > by state regulators. ... > "All of that money has already been refunded to customers," he said, > "and no Qwest customers were impacted by this USLD error." No _Qwest customers_ were impacted ... Does that mean their new motto is 'We screw the other guy, and pass the savings on to you!' Paul R. Joslin The man who sets out to carry a cat by its tail learns paul.joslin@sdrc.com something that will always be useful and which never +1 513 576 2012 will grow dim or doubtful. -- Mark Twain. ------------------------------ From: jmaddaus@NO_SPAM.usa.net (John S. Maddaus) Subject: Re: Web Security, Privacy, and the Big Lie Reply-To: jmaddaus@NO_SPAM.usa.net Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:48:08 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Monty Solomon wrote: > Excerpt from PRIVACY Forum Digest V09 #12 > http://www.vortex.com/privacy/priv.09.12 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:04:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: lauren@vortex.com (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator) > Subject: Web Security, Privacy, and the Big Lie And an answer even the feds will like - ISS has developed an intrusion detection application known as "Bullet" that uses ActiveX technology to allow e-commerce sites to scan a Web visitor's PC for viruses, trojan horses, or whatever (Network World April, 3rd edition pg.100). I agree with the intrusion part of the characterization, not necessarily with the detection part. So now we will all need intrusion detection systems to protect ourselves from intrusion detection systems. Wonderful! Double-Click without the need for Double-Click! jmaddaus@usa.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:55:37 GMT From: tesla1@pobox.com Subject: For Sale: CyberGenie Wireless Phone System on Ebay Organization: Optimum Online This system includes the Base Station, 4 Handsets, and 2 Headsets for handsfree conversations. All components are factory sealed and have NEVER been used. The retail price for this system would be approximately $989.94 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=309582385 ------------------------------ From: Dave Tweed Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:48:32 -0400 Organization: almost none Reply-To: dtweed@acm.org MLS1955@aol.com wrote: > Now, come on ... don't we, in the industry, have anything better to do > than measure the accuracy of a FREE time announcement? I hate to say > it, but after nearly 25 years in this business, I find your complaint > both anal and petty. It doesn't cost any extra to run an accurate time service instead of an inaccurate one. The point is, people in general expect these services to be authoritative, not just rough approximations. Dave ------------------------------ From: RFD Subject: Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? Organization: www.RFDSystems.com Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:27:30 -0400 Hi JT, To "uninstall" in Win31: 1- Delete the program group. 2- Delete the Directory where the app is located. 3- run sysedit.exe. This starts a kind of notepad thingy with 4 files. Search the files for any references to your program and delete the lines. This will not remove any DLLs but they won't hurt anything if nothing calls them right? To avoid long distance family support calls, I suggest you create a batch file and one zip file. ZIPEFILE.ZIP: put all critical files in this puppy. What's critical? - The SYSTEM directory - EVERY *.INI file you can find on the computer. - All *.grp files - any *.pwl files - Autoexec.bat, Config.sys (If space is not an issue, instead of picking and choosing, I suggest creating a zip file of the whole system. (Restoring from the zip file will not delete any new file she creates.) Make sure you store the original file's path in the zip file. FixIt.bat contents pkunzip -d zipfile.bat BackIt.bat Use PKZIP to create the recovery file. When ever you get a "my computers broke" call, get them to quit windows and type "FixIt.Bat" :) Go to www.winfiles.com for Win31 software or CuteFTP v2 (If you find v1 use it.) Rick. "JT Thompson" wrote in message news:telecom20.67.8@telecom-digest.org... > My cousin has my old 486 laptop, and she'd like to be able to get email. > We're in Ireland, by the way. > Does anyone know any site where I can download old internet software > for her? All I need, really, is a *small* FTP program that will work > under Windows 3.x. I have Trumpet Winsock. Once I have an FTP program > I'll be able to download Eudora for her. > I also need to know how to *uninstall* in Win3.1 - I tried installing > an old bundle of internet software from the mid-1990s, but the > combination of browsers and dialler and so on was fairly buggy. I'd > prefer to give my cousin a group of separate apps. > Various people have suggested putting on Windows 95, but the thing is, > she's a writer, she likes the speed of the computer at the moment, and > Windows 95 would slow it considerably. And no, she's not techie enough > for Linux. Win3.1 strains her technicality considerably . The > laptop -- a Toshiba 2110, and a lovely old thing -- has a floppy drive, > but no CD-ROM drive. > Once I've found where to download various internet bits and pieces, I > think I'll put up a website with links to them. There must be other > people poor enough to need to use Win3.1 and 286/386/486 technology > all over the world, and it'd be handy to have a source of old > software. > Any help gratefully accepted. - JTT ------------------------------ From: "Scot E. Wilcoxon" Organization: self Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:15:52 -0500 > I can think of one thing: being in the next cubicle when some idiot > who needs ten minutes to pick up two voice-mail messages, does it on > his speaker phone. Especially now that headsets are so inexpensive. ------------------------------ From: abuse@cabal.org.uk (Peter Corlett) Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: 15 Apr 2000 14:47:13 GMT Organization: None John David Galt wrote: [...] > I can think of one thing: being in the next cubicle when some idiot who > needs ten minutes to pick up two voice-mail messages, does it on his > speaker phone. Anyone who installs speaker phones in a "cubicle farm" > should have his head examined. The phones in my office all have a builtin speaker for "call monitoring", but aren't true speakerphones. I tend to prefer to use the handset exclusively on them, but other staff differ (unless I'm on hold for what seems like hours to Network Solutions - don't they realise the cost of international calls?) Usually, I like privacy. Sometimes though, there are calls that are just too good not to share, and it'd be nice to set them up as conference calls for other members of staff to join in. These are typically of the "battle of wits with an unarmed opponent" type. Alas, I haven't worked out how to do this. ------------------------------ From: Jeremy Greene Subject: Re: Another Method of Stopping Telemarketers Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 05:02:09 -0400 Seymour Dupa wrote in message news:telecom20.68.2@telecom-digest.org... > In the old days, when a person missed a stagecoach, > they had to wait two or three days for another one. > Nowadays, people complain when they miss one section > of a revolving door. Yes but only if there was a cute girl ahead of me who I wanted to "accidentally" end up in the same section of the revolving door with. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:51:13 -0400 From: "W. Hatfield Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles > I got this today, and wonder if it's a hoax, since most things with any > "tell everyone you know" content are. Is it? >> TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE CELL PHONES >> This may be of interest to those who have a mobile phone. Check Your >> mobile phone serial number. To check your Mobile phone's serial >> number press key in the following digits on your phone: >> * # 0 6 # >> A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your >> handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. Should your phone gets >> stolen, You will first need to report the Phone stolen at the police >> station, >> then fill out a blacklisting request form and fax it to the network. >> Your handset can be blacklisted via this 15 digit number more commonly >> known as >> the IMEI number(International Mobile Equipment identity). Even if the >> thief > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] Pat, IMEI is GSM-talk. Someone with GSM will have to check. But while J. T. Thompson's forwarded details might be off or only true for one type of product, the theory's correct: In GSM I can block your phone equipment, or block your SIM card, or both. ------------------------------ From: Kerry Linthicum Subject: Dialpad.com Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:47:21 -1000 Hope you can answer following question. What happened to free internet phone service dialpad.com. I was using the service; however, It seemed to "disappear" off the web. I tried numerous times to log on to it again via different sites that offer the free download -- No Luck. Thanks. Kwl in Hawaii ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:25:58 -0700 From: Patrick Tufts Subject: Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? Organization: SBC Internet Services In article , JT Thompson wrote: > Does anyone know any site where I can download old internet software > for her? All I need, really, is a *small* FTP program that will work > under Windows 3.x. I have Trumpet Winsock. Once I have an FTP program > I'll be able to download Eudora for her. http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/ Simtel has an archive of DOS and Win3.1 shareware and freeware. The internet utils section: http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/msdos/internet.html has several FTP clients. Pat ------------------------------ From: David Clayton Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:38:59 +1000 Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au Pty. Ltd. Reply-To: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au J.T. Thompson contributed the following: > I got this today, and wonder if it's a hoax, since most things with any > "tell everyone you know" content are. Is it? >> TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE CELL PHONES >> This may be of interest to those who have a mobile phone. Check Your >> mobile phone serial number. To check your Mobile phone's serial >> number press key in the following digits on your phone: >> * # 0 6 # ...... > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I tried that on my cell phone and got > nowhere. Nothing happened. I think it is a hoax or urban legend. PAT] This is a GSM function and probably won't work on non-GSM phones. And yes, if the IMEI numbers were tracked and locked out when appropriate GSM phone theft would plummet. Regards, David Clayton, e-mail: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Dilbert's words of wisdom #18: Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP Date: 15 Apr 2000 05:45:50 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From Julian Thomas: > BA told the owner that they had not been able to reinstate the circuit > and did not provide an adequate explanation. Hm. How about "We're flaming idiots"? Or more likely, "We're trying to screw you"? When I worked at NACS.NET, Ameritech switched off all of their lines, resulting in callers getting a "This number has been disconnected" message, and lots of pissed-off customers who thought we'd just closed shop. This was about four years ago. It happened on a Saturday morning, and I found out for myself when I tried to dial in. I then spent several hours on the phone with AmeriDreck telling them, "No, you don't understand. We're an ISP. We're down. You WILL resolve this issue immediately. No, a two-day turnaround is not enough." Fortunately, NACS no longer uses Ameritech. North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: Anthony Argyriou Subject: Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:35:15 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 07:53:33 +0100, JT Thompson wrote: > Does anyone know any site where I can download old internet software > for her? All I need, really, is a *small* FTP program that will work > under Windows 3.x. I have Trumpet Winsock. Once I have an FTP program > I'll be able to download Eudora for her. What's "small"? The Opera browser is available in 16-bit (Windows 3.1) versions up to 3.something. The download for every version up to 3.62 is less than 1.38 MB. "It fits on a floppy." It costs $35, but you get a 30-day trial. The browser is pretty complete, including ftp GET, except for Java, and some Javascript quirks. Anthony Argyriou http://www.alphageo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: itsamike@yahoo.com (Mike Pollock) Subject: Hey, Babe, Wanna Call ... Chad? More on the whole Chad porn thing... From Wired News, available online at: http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,35627,00.html Hey, Babe, Wanna Call ... Chad? by Lynn Burke 3:00 a.m. Apr. 14, 2000 PDT Tore Loding wishes he never heard of adultbuffet.com. That's because a few weeks after a romp one night through that site's adult offerings, the 24-year-old San Francisco State University journalism student got a $357 phone bill that made him consider swearing off pornographic websites. Like an increasing number of scammed surfers, Loding, by clicking through an agreement attached to a movie he wanted to download, inadvertently took with it a piece of software that reset his modem and dialed a number in Chad, a country in central Africa. The program, dirtymovies.exe, came with an agreement, which Loding clicked through without reading. "I don't know if I was drunk or whatever, I thought it was just some sort of privacy agreement," he said. Drunk or not, he's still responsible for the charges, attributed to two mysterious 31-minute calls to Chad. AT&T spokeswoman Lee Ann Kuster said the company has received a significant number of complaints about these kinds of charges, "enough to get our attention and put it on our radar screen," she said. AT&T even issued a customer warning last week about it. But while the company feels its customers' pain, it still wants to get paid. "The bottom line is that customers are responsible for the calls made from their home. The charges are sustained," she said. But $357? "Why does an adult movie have to be downloaded from Chad?" Loding wants to know. "It doesn't make sense to me at all. I think maybe it's some deal with the phone company." He might be right. The desolate, landlocked country, which has one of the lowest per capita incomes in the world, has a very primitive telecommunications system. And it doesn't make a lot of money from it. So striking a deal with a U.S.-based Internet company, adult in nature or not, may not seem like such a bad idea. A spokesman at the Embassy for the Republic of Chad in Washington said the country's government had never heard of these telephone calls, and offered no further comment. In fact, it was difficult to find out anything from anyone who might be involved or responsible. A spokesman from Adultbuffet.com who would only identify himself as "Brad" said his company was not responsible for the charges Loding received, because the link he clicked on was owned by another site. Adultbuffet, he said, is simply a collection of other adult sites. Adultbuffet is registered to All World Creations, a company that filed for a license in Atlanta as a book dealer. According to the county business office, the company is not operating with a license in Atlanta, and neither All World Creations nor Adultbuffet have filed papers with the Georgia Secretary of State. On Wednesday, the page on the site that contains the movie Loding downloaded was registered to Abovenet, a San Jose, California-based bandwidth provider that said it provided services to Nonstopnet, a Walnut Creek, California, company. Nonstopnet spokeswoman Johnette Stubbs said her company had nothing to do with Adultbuffet.com, and shifted the blame to Skyhosting.com, the company she says really hosts Adultbuffet.com. "We have nothing to do with their site at all," she said. Skyhosting.com appears to be closely affiliated with Nonstopnet, according to information posted on its own website and filed with Network Solutions. Minutes after denying a relationship, Stubbs called back to say she had just spoken with Skyhosting and "they are no longer hosting Adultbuffet." Lynn Macias, another Nonstopnet spokeswoman, said when the company learned of Skyhosting's affiliation with Adultbuffet, it was dropped. "I think that's unbelievable that they were running that," she said. "We had no idea they were running that little scam, that's not within our business model." By Thursday afternoon, the site had been picked up by Hitter Communications, an ISP in Hernando, Florida. But a call to Andrew Cook, the registered contact at Hitter, revealed that he was no longer with the company. Company officials said they would act immediately to discharge the site from their control. Now the only company left that will admit to hosting the adult smorgasbord known as Adultbuffet is Flying Crocodile, a Seattle company that hosts 60,000 adult sites. Flying Crocodile CEO Andrew Edmond said Adultbuffet isn't doing anything wrong, and said about 15-20 percent of the adult sites out there are now using dialers as an alternative payment. Dialers, he said, represent anywhere from a $60-110 million business annually. They're a natural solution to the problem of online credit card fraud. "The majority of people use dialers ethically," he said. The dialing companies are a very secretive lot that do not advertise themselves, but instead approach companies on an individual basis. The company behind Adultbuffet's dialer appears to be the No Credit Card Network, owned by Celtline Holdings based in Dublin, Ireland. Edmond says the dialer companies choose countries like Chad because there are not enough incoming phone calls to make that country's phone carriers any money. "People in Chad love talking to people all around the globe, but no one seems to like calling anyone in Chad," Edmond said. "There's not enough incoming calls. It's a trade deficit on a telecommunications level." The online adult industry is only too happy to step in and help out. Of course, Edmond said the adult sites receive about 80 percent of the revenue generated by the long-distance phone calls to Chad. Chad gets the other 20 percent. "In the early days we were made to look very, very, very bad," Edmond said. "We want to bring value to the industry." Also doing its bit to bring value to the $1.8 billion industry is Babenet.com, a company based in Beverly Hills, California that owns hundreds of adult websites. Several customers have linked a dialing program, called FreeSex_live.exe, back to Babenet. Laurie Swenson of Crookston, Minnesota, said she ended up with FreeSex_live.exe by leaving her 13-year-old son alone with the computer. She only discovered that he had downloaded the dialing software when she logged onto the Internet and found that her home page, search engine, and email signature had been hijacked by a site called GoHip.com. Another user who wished to remain anonymous said he "was cruising the curious path, you know, the 'free passwords' sites" when he ended up with GoHip all over his computer and FreeSex_live.exe in his hard drive. GoHip.com and Babenet.com are both hosted by Alchemy Communications. Alchemy Communications once featured GoHip.com at the top of its "featured clients" page, but has since removed all traces of the company from its site. Calls to Babenet's president, Nolan Quan, were not returned. But Robert Gould, a spokesman for Alchemy, GoHip, and Babenet, said he had never heard of the freesex_live.exe program, and kept a close eye on Babenet. "I watch what they do and how they do it," he said. "If Babenet was doing that, I would certainly have a problem." A problem, but probably not of the illegal sort. Adult sites are within their legal rights to slip whatever they want onto a user's computers, as long as they provide a written warning that must be clicked through. Before opening either AdultBuffet's dirtymovies.exe or Babenet's freesex_live.exe programs, a user must click through an agreement that essentially relieves everyone of liability other than the customer. If the user scrolls through the small dialogue box, he'll see examples of rates that customers might expect to pay. For freesex_live.exe, the "agreement" says, U.S. users might see a bill to Vanuatu, a tax haven comprised of 83 islands in the South Pacific, at $5.09 per minute. Dirtymovies.exe users are told their calls to Chad cost between $2.57-7.31 per minute. This is not the first time adult entertainment companies on the Internet have tried the re-routing trick. In 1997, the FTC clamped down on the operators of three sites -- www.sexygirls.com, www.1adult.com, and www.beavisbutthead.com for redirecting the modems of their customers to dialup Moldova, a former Soviet bloc country that borders Romania. Whether it's Moldova, Vanuatu, or Chad, this burgeoning dialing industry can probably expect to take quite a bit of heat from angry customers and irritated Internet service providers. Even Adultbuffet had grown weary of the dialing mess by the end of Thursday, and "Brad" said it was likely to ditch the whole thing. "No advertising is worth this kind of problem," he said. And for at least some customers, neither is the smut. Tore Loding, for one, says he's going to try and break his habit altogether. "I'm very careful now, I got scared away from it," he said. "It was like a slap on my wrist. I was naughty." Copyright 1994-2000 Wired Digital Inc. All rights reserved. ------------------------------ From: Jenn Martino Subject: Re: Looking for Porn? Ask Chad Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:40:05 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises So what's his email address? The Web Page You Have Reached http://twpyhr.usuck.com Over 225 telephone sounds and recordings, home to "The Unofficial Touch Tone Tunes FAQ," "The Phoney Dance,", a collection of telephone graphics. ------------------------------ From: Jenn Martino" jennmartino@my-deja.com> Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper that works Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:46:51 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises ... by the way, you can download a wav of SIT tones at http://twpyhr.usuck.com. The file name is errorbeeps1 under the other category. 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CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1521 P - INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY VALUES SOARING 'Because the market has placed so much value on intellectual assets, in some cases up to 90 percent of a company's value, the management of intangible assets has become a key element in overall business strategy.' Might this not account for - though not excuse - the Trademark Lobby's frenzied land grab in the Domain Name Space ... ? CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1512 F - WIRELESS USERS ABANDONING HOME PHONES There can be no doubt that more and more consumers will opt for the convenience and simplicity of a single phone solution. And that phone will be wireless. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1514 F - .TV DOMAIN NAME: GOT $, NO PROBLEM DotTV, funded by incubator Idealab, last week agreed to pay Tuvalu $50 million for the right to auction .tv domains for the next 10 years. 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A division of ATG Technologies. http://www.atg-tech.com/ ************************************************************************* WhoSells800.com http://www.whosells800.com . where business shops for toll free service and numbers. Are you listed? http://www.whosells800.com/800serpro.cfm ************************************************************************* more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 18, 2000 F - ON THE AUCTION BLOCK: AIRDSL.COM TM'S & DOMAINS The highest bidder will acquire all ownership rights to the following Trademarks, Domain Names and Trade Names registered with the US Patent and Trademark Office and currently owned by AirDSL.com Inc: CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1511 F - 1-800-FLOWERS.COM SUFFERS STOCK WILT But 1-800-Flowers.com has a notable advantage over companies that were born on the Internet: it had already built a brand as a telephone-order flower-delivery company. Registering the 1-800-FLOWERS toll-free number in the mid-1980s was an important step in that direction. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1513 P - 711 TO AUGMENT 800 FOR VA DEAF RELAY The current toll-free 800 numbers would remain available for access by out-of- state callers. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1515 P - NO 3-LETTER .COM NAMES LEFT, SO WHY ONLY TWO MORE TLD's? The New York Times reports that 'ICANN will start unveiling five to 10 new TLD's this summer. If all goes according to plan, suffixes like 'shop,' 'arts' and 'biz' will open up a host of new three-letter domain possibilities.' Where do they get this stuff? Network Solutions' Senior Vice President Roger Cochetti proposed this afternoon in a private ICANN Names Council meeting, that there be just two new gTLDs, 'for proof of concept.' CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1517 F - WUTC FINES USLD $1 MILLION FOR PAYPHONE OVERCHARGES WUTC said the fine is the largest telecom penalty it ever levied. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1519 F - AFTERNIC.COM ALLIES WITH AUCTIONWATCH.COM 'With this partnership, Afternic.com is providing real added value to the domain name re-sellers who use our site,' said Chris Maroney, Co-CEO of Afternic.com. 'AuctionWatch.com receives over 1.7 million unique visitors every month; obviously, that's an awful lot of potential domain name buyers.' CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1524 ************************************************************************* >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< 800 & Domain Name Acquisition Management, Lost/Stolen 800 # Retrieval, Litigation Support, Regulatory Navigation, Correlating Domain Name & Trademark Matters. When success is the only option. >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://1800TheExpert.com <<<<<<<<<<<<< ************************************************************************* more HEADLINES FOR APRIL 18, 2000 {... SO MUCH NSI, SO LITTLE TIME ... !) P - NETWORK SOLUTIONS REDUX or, 'How New, Internet Top-Level Domains could be Introduced Rapidly on a Sound Basis'. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1520 F - NSI TOPS 10 MILLION DOMAIN REGISTRATIONS 'As the demand for domain name services grows, we're well positioned to work with customers while continually updating our product line-up.' CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1520 F - NSI ON COLLECTIONS WAR PATH Whether NSI wears a black or white hat in this dispute depends on whom you ask, but NSI may not have made its own customer service representatives aware of its policy changes, and even its own policy statements available on its website seem ambiguous. 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All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:26:04 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Important News from Americans for Computer Privacy __________________________________________________________________________ ___ ____ ___ | / _ / ___| _ | Member Update | |_| | | | |_) | AMERICANS FOR COMPUTER PRIVACY | April 18, 2000 | _ | |___| __/ | subscription info |_| |_|____|_| http://www.computerprivacy.org | below ____________________________________________________________________________ Please forward where appropriate this message with this Banner in tact Please do not forward for more than two weeks past above date ____________________________________________________________________________ ACP TO FOCUS ON PROTECTION OF THE CRITICAL INFORMATION INFRASTRUCTURE ___________________________________________________________________________ TABLE OF CONTENTS What's Happening? Information on Americans for Computer Privacy ____________________________________________________________________________ WHAT'S HAPPENING? During the last two years ACP led the private sector effort to permit the widespread use of strong American encryption products in order to protect privacy, promote national security, and prevent crime. With strong support from Congress and individual ACP members like you, we succeeded in persuading the Administration to relax export controls on encryption products. Of course we continue to closely monitor the regulatory implementation of the Administrationís new policy and also to oppose any efforts by foreign governments to erect import barriers to American products or to impose domestic controls on the use of encryption. But we hopefully anticipate the widespread use of encryption in the years ahead. Yet as recent Internet viruses and denial of service attacks have reminded us, more needs to be done to secure the information systems that many sectors of the U.S. economy (utilities, banking, communications, transportation, health care, e-commerce) as well as the U.S. government rely upon extensively. Protecting the information infrastructure used for these critical sectors is essential for U.S. national security, American economic welfare, and our fundamental freedoms. ACP is therefore focusing on critical information infrastructure protection ("CIIP"). ACP believes this is best accomplished through private sector solutions that are market driven and industry led. The private sector not only built and maintains the products, networks, and systems that make up the information infrastructure but also possesses the knowledge and expertise necessary to protect it. Importantly, so far the U.S. government has recognized that it should work cooperatively with industry on a voluntary basis to deter, identify and respond to cyber threats and attacks. In addition, the Administration has proposed and Congress has funded numerous initiatives to strengthen the governmentís technological capabilities. ACP applauds the initiatives that are already under way and will cooperate with the government in these initiatives. However, ACP also is concerned about the possibility of overreaction to denial-of-service or other potential cyber attacks. Such overreaction could generate new laws or regulations, which would stifle innovation, artificially channel R&D, and harm the very infrastructure that needs protection. It is essential that the government not use legitimate threats to computer security as a justification for assuming new powers of regulation, imposing new burdens upon industry, or threatening fundamental rights of privacy. The government must not mandate technologies or dictate standards. The government also must not increase surveillance or monitoring of Americans at home and work. Finally, the government should not rush to pass new laws or adopt new regulations until it is demonstrated that current legal regimes are inadequate. For these reasons, ACP has adopted five simple principles in order to guide government decision makers: *CIIP is best accomplished through private sector solutions that are market driven and industry led; *Governments and industry must work cooperatively on a voluntary basis towards achieving CIIP; *Government must not mandate the choice of technologies or dictate standards or processes; *Government must not violate personal and corporate privacy in the quest for CIIP; and *Barriers to strong CIIP should be removed, including barriers to the widespread use of strong encryption. The complete principles can be viewed on the ACP site at: http://www.computerprivacy.org/news/2000principles.shtml You can also read ACP's press release announcing this new focus at: http://www.computerprivacy.org/news/955374280.shtml You will also want to take a look at our revised home page, http://www.computerprivacy.org/ which has valuable links to encryption resources as well as important encryption news from around the world. We will keep you informed of key activities and events in the encryption and CIIP areas, and how we can work together to continue protecting freedom and privacy online. Thanks for all your hard work! __________________________________________________________________________ INFORMATION ON AMERICANS FOR COMPUTER PRIVACY ACP is a broad based coalition, which supports policies that advance the rights of American citizens to encode information without fear of government intrusion, and advocates the lifting of export restrictions on U.S.-made encryption products. ACP also supports policies that promote industry led, market driven solutions to critical information infrastructure protection and opposes government efforts to impose mandates or design standards, or to increase widespread monitoring or surveillance. For more information on Americans for Computer Privacy, visit our web site at http://www.computerprivacy.org/ To receive ACP Member Updates, simply join ACP (its free!) at http://www.computerprivacy.org/join/ ** HOW TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS LIST ** To stop receiving these updates, please fill out the form at http://www.computerprivacy.org/remove PRESS INQUIRIES: Please call Bruce Lott (202) 661-3898. ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: 19 Apr 2000 00:33:12 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Michael Hartley': >I'll resist the temptation to make disparaging comparisons between >features provided by the de facto world standard and those which may >be available on other standards ;+) Oh, good. I'm tired of the CDMA vs. TDMA vs. GSM debates that continually pop up in alt.cellular. North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: Marcus AAkesson Subject: Re: *#06# Email Going Around About Mobiles Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:39:45 +0200 Organization: Chalmers University of Technology On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:51 +0100 (BST), Richard@office.mandarin.com (Richard D G Cox) wrote: > Marcus AAkesson said: > Since we don't buy phones from the network operators, they have no > contact with the phones, and don't care. They do however enforce the > blacklist. > This is a less common scenario, because most mobile networks subsidise > the handsets and are therefore most concerned to ensure that the > handsets they have subsidised do not get used on their competitors' > networks. Yes, but here is how it works here: 1. A signed x-month contract gives the reseller a subsidy from the network which he can use to lower the price on the phone You just bought. The network still doesn't care _which_ phone You use. All those phones are SIM-unlocked. 2. A subsidized pre-pay phone IS SIM-locked and that is related to IMEI. But pre-paid are not registered (it is optional) so in that case they don't even know who You are if You have chosen not to register. So, in the first case, they know You, but not Your IMEI, and in the second, they know the IMEI, but not You. Even when You register, You don't need to tell them which IMEI You use. You could switch phones with friends every week (and many seem to). > In any event, how do you get "your" stolen handset listed on the > Dublin blacklist, if not through your GSM operator? And if they don't > have any details of what handset is/was yours, how can they validate > that your report of the stolen IMEI is accurate? For all they know, > your report could be a malicious attempt to have somebody else's phone > blacklisted. It could be. But the process is like this; You make a police report, and send a copy of that to the network, which blacklists the phone and also pass the info along to Dublin. I do't think many pranksters would go to the police to make a false claim of theft. When discovered, they are easily identified. The police keeps track of all reported stolen phones IMEI, and uses that when checking suspect people on the streets. I hear them every day on the radio reading IMEIs. A stolen phone/bike/moped/car all have their "serial numbers" listed. Marcus AAkesson marcus.akesson@NO_SPAM_PLEASE_home.se Gothenburg Callsigns: SM6XFN & SB4779 Sweden >>>>>> Keep the world clean - no HTML in news or mail ! <<<<<< ------------------------------ From: Roy Smith Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Organization: New York University School of Medicine Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:09:43 -0400 Ed Ellers wrote: > Actually two official sources -- the one you're referring to is at the > National Institute of Science and Technology lab in Boulder, Colorado, > but the Defense Department relies on the U.S. Naval Observatory. Not that it > matters, since NIST and USNO frequently cross-check with each other and > with national time standards in various countries. BTW, the USNO gives free tours, one weekday evening (I forget which) during the week. No need for (or possibility of) a reservation; just show up at the gate at the right time, and the first 25 or 50 or something like that people are let in. The evening we went, there didn't seem to be so many people that anybody had to be turned away. It's an interesting little tour, in a geeky sort of way. The two highlights are The Clock, and a chance to look through one of their telescopes (a 12 inch refractor, IIRC). It's all sort of rolled into a short walking tour of the grounds, and some browsing time in an exhibit hall. The folks who give the tour (combination of the local astronomy club and staff scientists) are very nice and seemed genuinely interested in chatting with people who know something about the field. The Clock itself was actually rather unimpressive to look at. About a half dozen relatively sparsely packed racks filled with a mix of mostly commercial equipment (power supplies, terminal servers, and of course some Hewlett Packard cesium clocks), and some obviously home-grown stuff. All behind plate glass windows in an environmentally controlled room. The hydrogen masers that make up part of the ensemble are even less impressive looking; some boring looking black boxes, about the size of a home washing machine. Not even any blinking lights to look at :-) I'm not actually convinced I saw The Clock, however. If I was in charge of security for The Clock, I would lock it away in a bunker somewhere and put a replica on display for tour-takers to gawk at. Who knows for sure? Worth an evening if you're visiting DC. Call the observatory for the schedule. ------------------------------ From: Louis Raphael Subject: Re: Finding Old Internet Software For the Cousin? Organization: Societe pour la promotion du petoncle vert Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 03:21:46 GMT JT Thompson wrote: > Does anyone know any site where I can download old internet software > for her? All I need, really, is a *small* FTP program that will work > under Windows 3.x. I have Trumpet Winsock. Once I have an FTP program > I'll be able to download Eudora for her. Search the web for "TVDOG's Internet Archive" - it contains an excellent collection of *DOS* IP packages. This may be the perfect solution, especially as they tend to work reasonably well and are easy to use once set up (rather difficult, in some cases). Louis ------------------------------ From: someone@someplace,edu Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:51:24 -0500 Subject: Someone Understands How I Feel > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My health is NOT well. My health is > terrible, or maybe I just think it is awful. Maybe in 6 months or > a year it might be better. The psychiatrist who came here from > the University at Lawrence, KS to give me a series of mental exams > said I probably would never get back to normal. By 'normal' he meant > to be able to walk long distances (more than three or four blocks), > I would never again walk successfully very far without my cane, I > would never again be able to do the things I used to do. Even > getting in and out of a car -- the way I go most places, in a taxicab > -- is a chore. The City of Independence has a transit service for > handicapped people; go anywhere in town in a taxicab for one dollar. > I tear a coupon out of my book of same for the cab driver, but then > he waits about five minutes while I get in and get out, by turning > myself sideways, propping my feet on the ground, and pushing myself > to my feet, then I get my cane out at the proper angle, and hobble > away. To me it is very depressing, because I remember all to well > how I *used to be*, and how I am now. PAT] Hello, PAT. You may not recognize me, but I've been following your Digest since 1987, and I just want to say that I know EXACTLY how you feel. I was a Wunderkind. Blew the top off the Stanford-Binet charts. Went to a piss-poor grade school and a piss-poor high school and got a full scholarship to Purdue University at the age of sixteen. Got asked to leave, a few weeks later, due to immaturity. Twenty six September, 1982, I was in an automobile "accident". The ONLY Sunday that ENTIRE year that I was driving sober, I got hit by a drunk driver. Acute Sub-dural hematoma. Go figger. Was in and out of hospital for eleven months, two weeks. Was wog-headed beyond belief. Couldn't concentrate, and couldn't remember. Could barely walk. Couldn't stay awake for more than about three hours at a time, max. Was improving every day, however. Took the LSAT in February of '84 and was disgusted with the results - Seventy fifth percentile. Never in my life had I scored less than the ninety fifth percentile on ANY standardized test, but there it was - Seventy fifth percentile. I applied to the three in-state law schools anyway. I was accepted. Mirabile dictu! I still have after-effects of my injury - I still cannot stand on one leg, unless I'd like to fall down. I still limp, or shuffle, depending on the terminology you'd like to use to describe my gait - either would be accurate. But the thing of it is that my MIND is still active, though possibly not as active as before (how would one MEASURE such a thing, anyway?) I really can't say anything else. I wish you the best, and would like to thank you for the selfless service you've provided to us all for lo, these many years. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks for your very kind words. I am glad that people understand. I still keep saying to myself, 'maybe this will all go away with the warm summer weather.' But let's face it, I am beginning to think it is my new lot in life. For a week now, there has been a new cat in my life. 'Nicholas II' is about a year old. He is a Russian Blue cat, just like the original Nicholas that was part of my life for 16 years, from 1977 through 1993 when he had to be put down. The Independence Animal Control officer brought him to the shelter. While I was walking around giving out their breakfasts, the cats were all squalling as to be expected. I saw this one in his cage and said, 'My God, that is little Nicky. When I opened the door of the cage, he jumped right into my arms and rarely gets out of them. Now he is sleeping in *our* bed, waiting for me to show up. Today was a warm spring day here, the first day of the rest of my life. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #77 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Thu Apr 20 01:48:27 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA05927; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004200548.BAA05927@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #78 ' TELECOM Digest Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:48:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 78 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Privacy Risks of Job Searching on the Web (Rob Slade) Charity Sues MCI (Tad Cook) Re: Dialpad.com (The bald one) Re: Dialpad.com (David) Re: Dialpad.com (Michael S. Berlant) Re: Kansas Getting Area Code Split (Terry Knab) Re: Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP (Tony Pelliccio) Security Hole in Netscape Exposes Hard Drive Files (Bennett Haselton) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Dr. Doright) Re: Digital Signatures For French Hybrid Mail (Paul Wallich) (J-B.Condat) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. 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This fact may be of very limited interest to most people, but it may serve to explain why I made an application for a job with the BC provincial government on April 12, 2000. All job applications to the provincial government now seem to go through a Web site at http://www.itcareers.gov.bc.ca/, via the Applicant Inventory System (AIS). It takes a fair amount of time to go through the multi-stage registration process, but, once registered, a candidate can apply for other jobs by logging in with an eight digit numeric applicant code and a password. (It is interesting to note that the applicant code is generated by the system, presumably randomly, but that the password is chosen by the user. The system also requests a piece of validating information, in case you lose your password, but the information requested is the by now fairly standard query of your mother's maiden name.) I do not, generally speaking, apply for jobs on Web sites. It is at least four months since I made any application on a Web site, and, as far as I know, I've never applied on a RAPS site except for the BC government site (and some others that I used subsequently for testing as a result of what is to come). Therefore, I was rather surprised to receive an email message from the "job seeker application portion" of the "Recruiting and Applicant Processing System known as RAPS." It suggested that I should use this same ID and password to apply on other Web sites using the same software, and recommended three such sites. The message indicated that hundreds of employment systems had been linked together, for the "convenience" of the job seeker. It also stated that the message itself was not spam, since I had agreed to receive it by posting my resume on a "public domain" area of the Internet. This came as a bit of a surprise, since The BC government Web site has numerous notices about privacy of information and was, in fact, one of the earliest jurisdictions to have a formal privacy office (Web site http://www.oipcbc.org, email info@oipcbc.org). Of course, the simple fact that I received the email does not, automatically, mean that it came from somewhere other than a system of the BC government. The address used confirmed that it was this application that generated the email. In fact, I used a combination of two of my many email addresses, thus reducing the possibility of random coincidence to vanishingly small levels. (It was interesting that I was allowed to do this. The system did not, apparently, check the email address for validity, although it was very picky about the format for phone numbers.) But the email could have been generated by the software at the BC government, perhaps because the operators did not know that a spam generator was buried in the software. The full headers of the email message itself, however, did confirm that the message was generated outside the BC government. Outside the country, in fact. Noting that: Received: from localhost [206.169.212.34] by rapsystem.com [204.177.84.246] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with ESMTP I checked the IP addresses, and found one registered to Phoenix Internet (presumably an ISP), and the other to: Dancris Telecom L.L.C (DANCRIS2-DOM) 6900 E. Camelback Rd. Suite 1003 Scottsdale, AZ 85251 Domain Name: DANCRIS.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact: Dancris Telecom Network Operations Center (DTN-ORG) noc@DANCRIS.COM Dancris Telecom 6900 E. Camelback Road Suite 1003 Scottsdale, AZ 85251 US 602-874-2700 Fax- 602-874-0555 Thus, at the very least, my email address (two of them, in fact), as a job searcher, has been sent to a company in Arizona, without my knowledge or approval. I forwarded the computer generated message to IT.Careers@gems5.gov.bc.ca, the contact for the BC government site. After five days I received a message telling me that they were not linked with any other sites, and that they had contacted the software vendor and confirmed that my information hadn't been sent to anyone, uh uh, no way. Since this flies in the face of the evidence, it is rather disheartening to find that the BC government office does not have the resources to assess the situation, and that the company is lying to them. Those who have followed my security literature reviews will be aware that I am not one to get excited about failures in confidentiality. I'm not too concerned that someone else may know I'm looking for work. (These days, isn't everyone?) Anyone who knows how to use Deja.Com can probably find a resume or two of mine without much difficulty. But I was rather astonished to find this evidence of a breakdown in privacy from a provincial government site. Most people would consider employment application information to be roughly on a level of confidentiality with medical records. The breakdown is not complete. Despite what the message said, further research does not appear to confirm that other RAPS sites have access to my resume. However, a number of employment Web sites do seem to use RAPS, and few of them appear to make the applicant aware of the possibility that resume information could be shared with other sites. It is understandable that not all sites would want to broadcast this information: many job sites try to get the job candidate to post their resume (this is a free service!) and then try to "upsell" them on a system for posting the resume to either lists of employers or other job sites. At the same time, most employment agencies and Web sites get most of their revenue by charging employers, and therefore want to have the largest possible base of candidates in order to charge more or make more sales. Therefore, access to a system which enables them to retrieve resume data posted at other sites would be a major advantage for them. In any case, either the system does not always work, or there is some significant time delay. I posted my resume to RAPS sites and then tried to access it on other RAPS sites and could not retrieve my information. (Interestingly, I got a different error message response when I used the ID and password from the BC government application than I did when I used the ID and password from the test system.) copyright Robert M. Slade, 2000 BCJOBPRV 20000418 ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade@vcn.bc.ca rslade@sprint.ca slade@victoria.tc.ca p1@canada.com One virus, two virii, three viriii, four viriv ... http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev or http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~rslade ------------------------------ From: Tad Cook Subject: Charity Sues MCI Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:45:33 -0700 From The Oklahoman: City-based charity sues phone service over bill 04/18/2000 By Randy Ellis Staff Writer Feed The Children has filed a federal lawsuit against MCI Worldcom Network Services Inc., accusing the company of overcharging the Oklahoma City-based charity by at least $100,000 for long distance telephone services. In April 1998, MCI began charging Feed The Children a monthly "national access fee" of $2.75 per phone line on approximately 3,600 phone lines, the charity alleges. Feed The Children claims it only had about 55 telephone lines. MCI also may have overcharged Feed The Children for other service fees, listed as "non-usage" and "miscellaneous" fees, the charity says. Efforts to reach MCI for comment Monday were unsuccessful. The charity says MCI offered to credit $96,000 to its long distance account in November, but the charity refused to renew its contract because of the billings. MCI refused reimbursement demands, the charity said. ------------------------------ From: baldone@nothing.com (The bald one) Subject: Re: Dialpad.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:11:29 GMT Organization: @Home Network I just went to the site www.dialpad.com and placed a quick call. It's working for me. For a few days it suddenly stopped working. Then I realized I had installed firewall protection for my system. Dialpad does not work from behind a firewall. Once I turned off the firewall I was able to make all the calls I wanted. On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:47:21 -1000, Kerry Linthicum wrote: > Hope you can answer following question. > > What happened to free internet phone service dialpad.com. I was > using the service; however, It seemed to "disappear" off the web. I > tried numerous times to log on to it again via different sites that > offer the free download -- No Luck. Return address is fake. Don't bother to send email I HATE SPAM ------------------------------ From: david@NOSPAMvoice-ware.com (David) Subject: Re: Dialpad.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:17:38 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com It still works in the continental US. Used it just last week and it still seems to be there today. On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:47:21 -1000, Kerry Linthicum wrote: > Hope you can answer following question. > What happened to free internet phone service dialpad.com. I was > using the service; however, It seemed to "disappear" off the web. I > tried numerous times to log on to it again via different sites that > offer the free download -- No Luck. > Thanks. > Kwl in Hawaii ------------------------------ From: Michael S. Berlant Organization: None Apparent Subject: Re: Dialpad.com Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:48:06 GMT They are alive and well Wednesday morning via @home from Southern California. Perhaps it was either a temporary problem or the problem lies within your ISP. Your ISP wouldn't happen to be a phone company, would it? Kerry Linthicum wrote: > Hope you can answer following question. > What happened to free internet phone service dialpad.com. I was > using the service; however, It seemed to "disappear" off the web. I > tried numerous times to log on to it again via different sites that > offer the free download -- No Luck. > Thanks. > Kwl in Hawaii ------------------------------ From: tknab@nyx.net (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: Kansas Getting Area Code Split Organization: The Home Office Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:08:24 GMT TELECOM Digest Editor wrote: > A notice in the {Independence Reporter}, Sunday, April 16, 2000: > Under the geographical split model, the area served by 316 area > would be split into two areas: the Wichita Metropolitan local > calling area, and the remaining area served by the 316 area code. > The 316 area code would be retained in one of the geographic > areas, and a new code assigned to the other area. Seven-digit > dialing for local calls is maintained is a plan like this. Based > on current projections, this plan would provide relief in the > Wichita Metropolitan local calling area for six years, and 24 > years in the balance of the current 316 area code. I'd have to vote for the split myself. I see 7-digit dialing being one issue, but another being impact. The big impact is on companies who have a lot of money invested in the phone number they have already. (Its less likely to find this in rural areas, but Wichita is a different thing entirely.) I can see where Corporations like McDonald's have gone through nearly 4 area codes in 12 or so years, and that gets downright confusing. Imagine if you were a company and had to give out a new business number every few years due to area code splits. Also from the standpoint of down the road, 316 can be *far* easier overlayed in Wichita IF its one areacode that's purely local. Remember, Denver also has two local area codes (720 and 303), and calls between *all* of them are local. Overlaying into rural areas makes ZERO sense from a number of standpoints, the biggest one of which is that most of the towns in Kansas (I'm going to pick on the Northern Half-785 since i know it well) don't come anywhere NEAR using all 10,000 numbers. Remember, out in the rural areas, the LECs are lucky if they assign 2,000 or 3,000 of the numbers in an NXX. So, Wichita, in my opinion, should get 316 and everyone else gets split. It *seems* to make the most sense. But we are talking about a PUC here. Terry E. Knab News/Acting System Administrator Nyx Public Access Unix ------------------------------ From: Tony Pelliccio Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Interrupts Local ISP Organization: Providence Network Partners Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:47:13 GMT In article , sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net says... From Julian Thomas: >> BA told the owner that they had not been able to reinstate the circuit >> and did not provide an adequate explanation. > Hm. How about "We're flaming idiots"? Or more likely, "We're trying > to screw you"? As I've said many times before, it's the reason why our HQ is no longer a Bell Atlantic customer. They kept stealing my ISDN lines to use as voice lines. This would knock out my web servers and email servers so we were essentially dead in the water for days on end. Unfortunately we don't have the clout of an ISP so it took five days to restore our ISDN service. Recently we experience an outage with Worldcom as they're now known. It lasted about three hours but the entire time they re-routed our calls to cellphones in the building. Not too shabby. Tony ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:47:45 -0500 From: Bennett Haselton Subject: security hole in Netscape exposes hard drive files Reply-To: peacefire-press@iain.com Announced this morning: This page demonstrates a security exploit in Netscape 4.x that lets a malicious Web site gain access to files on a user's hard drive: "JavaScript-in-cookies security hole demo" http://www.peacefire.org/security/jscookies/ We think this may be one of the most powerful Netscape Communicator exploits *ever* -- offhand I can only think of one Netscape bug ever discovered that was more serious than this one (discovered in 1997 by a Danish consultant, it also gave a Web site access to files on a user's computer). We have already contacted Netscape to report this problem, and they are working on a fix. This security hole affects anyone running Netscape Communicator 4.x for Windows with cookies and JavaScript turned on (these are the default settings in effect for almost all browsers). Netscape claims an installed client base of over 50 million browsers. The exploit involves setting a cookie on the user's browser, such that the *value* of the cookie contains JavaScript code that can perform priveleged operations. (So this is great for reporters who like popular buzzwords like "cookie" and "JavaScript", which always look sexy in a story about Web browser security holes.) Bennett bennett@peacefire.org http://www.peacefire.org (425) 649 9024 ------------------------------ From: drdoright@[206.79.5.86] (Dr. Doright) Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Organization: Do the Right Thing Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:07:59 GMT On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:54:39 EDT, MLS1955@aol.com wrote: > Now, come on ... don't we, in the industry, have anything better to do > than measure the accuracy of a FREE time announcement? I hate to say > it, but after nearly 25 years in this business, I find your complaint > both anal and petty. Put me down as another vote for anal and petty. When I was a kid and this type of service first became available in my home town, I called it for a while. Now, I have no idea what the number is. And, if I wanted the CORRECT time, I would call the U.S. Government's Fort Collins, Colorado number which has the audio of the WWV broadcasts for 10 or 15 cents for a 1 minute LD call. ------------------------------ From: Jean-Bernard Condat Subject: Re: Digital Signatures For French Hybrid Mail Documents (Paul Wallich) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:12:31 +0200 Thanks for your interest in French hybrid mail. Our process actually enables users to have a real judicial proof. Indeed our bailiff, the most famous in the IT world in France, is entitled to extract from the database a certified (and/or registrered) copy of the document (called "ampliation" or "copie certifiee conforme" [real certified copy]) that can be used in a trial. Moreover, a "certificate of life" (certificat de vie) which is attached to the document, describes all its tracking ... and lets the user known at any time where the document is: in the printing chain, in the hands of the conveyor, in those of the receipient, at the postal office, etc. Only archiving the document wouldn't really provide users certification of the content and integrity of the document. As far as delivering it to the third party, there wouldn't be any extra manipulation: as we are hybrid mail operators as well as trust third party, we are indeed in charge of rematerializing and delivering of the document (letter, telegram, SMS, registered letter, fax, email) of the conveyor. It's a new great vector to develop a new usage of telcos infrastructure in France at this time. Regards, Jean-Bernard Condat, Posteasy SA 42 bd Sbastopol, 75003 Paris, France 0144599459, fax: 0144593555, condat@posteasy.org, 0607238628 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #78 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Thu Apr 20 23:56:17 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA15977; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:56:17 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004210356.XAA15977@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #79 TELECOM Digest Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:54:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 79 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (Linc Madison) "Virtual Switchboard" For Cell Phones/Small Business (Mark Condor) States Outlaw Spam (Monty Solomon) FYI: Correction to Publication Schedule (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Siemens Gigaset 2400 Series (Rupa Schomaker) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Andrew Green) Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Nomen Nescio) Re: Dialpad.com (Stanley Cline) Graun Potential Rise (Felipe Quiroz) Alternative Service Provider (Gary Frech) What are the Means of TV Broadcast? (Inelle) Nice Quote (T. Byfield) Norstar -vs- Partner -vs- Merlin Magix (Nortec Communications) Time of Year for Tornados (Patrick Townson) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. 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Please request a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:07:11 -0700 From: Linc Madison Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan J.F. Mezei wrote in Vol 20 # 72: > georgep_on_ca@my-deja.com wrote: >> http://www.gc.ca/) That Canada should get its own country code > Doesn't Canada already have "2" used deep down in some routing tables > etc? No. The country code "1" is not divided except by NPA (area code). Area codes 204 and 250 are in Canada, but 203, 205, 248, and 252 are not. (249 and 251 are currently unassigned.) > Is there some logic in determining how long a country code is to be? > (eg: codes beginning with two are three digits, codes with four are > two digits etc etc)? The length of the country code relates to three factors: population, politics, and timing. Larger countries generally have shorter codes. European countries are more likely to have shorter codes. All codes assigned since about 1990 are three digits. It happens that, in the original assignments, all codes beginning with 4 were two digits, but that's no longer true: 420, 421, and 423 are assigned to the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Liechtenstein, respectively. As for region 2, there are three two-digit assignments: 20, 27, and 21, which are Egypt, South Africa, and the unified numbering plan of North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia), respectively. In any case, the proposal to separate Canada into its own country code is only one idea being discussed. Personally, I think that the benefits to Canada of remaining in the NANP outweigh the disadvantages. More to the point, if Canada were assigned its own country code, it would probably NOT be 1X or even 1XX -- it would probably be something like 295. The only way that Canada could get a 1X or 1XX code would be to force the rest of the NANP to do the same, absent a MAJOR change in ITU rules. Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * Telecom-at-LincMad.com North American Telephone Area Codes & Splits ------------------------------ From: mcondor@mindspring.com (Mark Condor) Subject: "Virtual Switchboard" for cell phones/small business Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:12:27 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises I have an interesting "does this exist question" I am involved in a small business startup. Each employee is going to have a cell phone (Probably Sprint PCS?), for business reasons, and we will also be getting an 800 number for the main business number. The question is, can we come up with some way, via the 800 number, to have the appearance that all these phones are land-lines, and in fact connected to a main switchboard/pbx? Hence my term a "virtual switchboard". Ideally, from the 800 number there would be some voice response menu that would allow for reaching any individual's cell phone, (as well as an option to collect voicemail to the main 800 number) The impetus behind this, is cost savings. Since we will have to have a cell phone each, we would like to save the cost of the phone lines, installation and pbx etc. Any ideas appreciated. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:09:40 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: States Outlaw Spam salon.com > Technology April 19, 2000 At least 18 states have enacted or are working on legislation that would impose stiff penalties on commercial e-mailers who engage in unsavory tactics. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Damien Cave If laws could stop spam, we'd probably get a lot less e-mail. Several state legislatures began trying to regulate commercial e-mail in 1997 and, even as a federal anti-spam bill heads to the House, more states are writing their own legislation -- complete with pricy penalties for violating the law. The following is a summary of state laws that have been enacted or are moving through state legislatures. http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/04/19/state_spam ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Subject: FYI: Correction to Publication Schedule Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:24:13 -0400 CUSTOMER SERVICE NOTE: ICB will not be published from Wednesday, April 19, through Monday, April 24. ICB Staff wishes all who celebrate Passover and Easter, a joyous holiday. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Siemens Gigaset 2400 Series From: Rupa Schomaker Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:36:16 GMT Organization: @Home Network Don House writes: > We have been told that the Gigasets will not work with a line carrying ADSL. > I hope to test this and will let you know what I find out. When COX installed my digital telephone service (switched phone service over your coax cable) they noticed I had a gigaset and said they sometimes have problems with them. They've been upping the voltage on the line (dunno from what to what) for those of us with gigasets and that seems to solve the problems. The only problem he could refer to was that the line in use lights would blink rather than stay on steady. (and funny enough, mine do that even with the increase in voltage) I find it odd that I use sattelite to watch TV and cable to make phone calls and surf the net. rupa ------------------------------ From: Andrew Green Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:32:09 -0500 MLS1955@aol.com writes: > Now, come on ... don't we, in the industry, have anything better > to do than measure the accuracy of a FREE time announcement? I > hate to say it, but after nearly 25 years in this business, I find > your complaint both anal and petty. Well, let's review here: 1) The sole purpose of this announcement is to give the time. 2) The time is wrong. This suggests to me that there is a problem, and it's not with the complainer. If you're concerned about whether the time is correct, you can get a second opinion in our local Ameritech phone directory. In fact you can get upwards of SEVENTY FIVE opinions, judging from the number of (312) 976-xxxx numbers in the Business listings for "Time of Day" or "Time of Day-Chicago" or "Time Weather & Lottery" listed over and over again in column after column of the phone book, differing only in the last four digits of the phone number. Apparently these are paid for by clueless individuals who thought they Getting In on the Ground Floor of the burgeoning (trust me, it's always "burgeoning") 900-number service industry. Obviously they all lead to the same recording; it's sad to look at column after column of these listings and wonder how much each person paid to get themselves into that hopeless list. You'd think they would have looked in the book themselves first; apparently they didn't. Andrew C. Green Datalogics, Inc. 101 N. Wacker, Ste. 1800 http://www.datalogics.com Chicago, IL 60606-7301 ------------------------------ From: Nomen Nescio Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper that works Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:10:01 +0200 CEST Organization: mail2news@zedz.net Anon-Send-To: comp.dcom.telecom >> Well, in response to my inquiry Mike Sandman has done it. His latest >> little black box, called the "Telemarketer Stopper" does exactly what >> I was needing and is line powered. Best of all it's reasonably >> inexpensive at $25.95. (in lots of 3 or more they're $24.95 each) > The price went up since you last checked: $34.95 I'm working on an anti-telemarketing device of my own, one that acts like an auto-attendant in that it requires the caller to enter a passcode before ringing the handset. For an outgoing call the box senses handset offhook and directly connects handset to outside line. It does not depend on CallerID or any special services by the telco. It will need a transformer plugged in to a wall outlet. It'd be nice if I could get the purchase price down to US$50. Steve ------------------------------ From: Stanley Cline Subject: Re: Dialpad.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:37:16 -0400 Organization: by area code and prefix (NPA-NXX) Reply-To: sc1@roamer1.org On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:11:29 GMT, baldone@nothing.com (The bald one) wrote: > I just went to the site www.dialpad.com and placed a quick call. It's > working for me. For a few days it suddenly stopped working. Then I > realized I had installed firewall protection for my system. Dialpad > does not work from behind a firewall. Once I turned off the firewall I > was able to make all the calls I wanted. You can fix this and leave the firewall in place; you need to open up TCP port 51210 and UDP ports 51200 and 51201. On my IP-masquerading/firewall Linux box running RedHat 6.1, I use the following rules to open the ports, and auto-forward the ports to my Windows box on the "private" side of the firewall box. (If you have more than one Windows box from which you wish to use Dialpad, you need to do some more complicated setup which I believe is linked from the dialpad site.) # fwd ports 51200,51201,51210 (dialpad) to toccoa # (192.168.34.2 = toccoa, my windows box) # ipchains opens ports, ipmasqadm forwards ports /sbin/ipchains -A input -p tcp -d 0.0.0.0/0 51210 -j ACCEPT /sbin/ipchains -A input -p udp -d 0.0.0.0/0 51200:51201 -j ACCEPT /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 51210 51210 -h 192.168.34.2 /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -A -r udp 51200 51201 -h 192.168.34.2 Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/ "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune ------------------------------ From: Felipe Quiroz Subject: Graun Potential Rise Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:49:06 PDT Hello ... I am Felipe Quiroz from Chile ... I am looking for information about Ground Potential Rise and devices for protection against of that problem, recommendations or anything you can tell my, thanks a lot, if you dont know anything about ... please ... send me a e-mail to tell me anyway. ------------------------------ From: Gary Frech Subject: Alternative Service Provider Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:20:16 -0600 To Whom It May Concern: I am a consultant and have a client in Santa Fe, New Mexico who is developing a mixed use residential, commercial and educational property. The property is remote in that it is outside the telcos base rate area and loop limitations preclude such service as ISDN and DSL. I am looking for service alternatives outside the norm. A wireless option is attractive however all of the firms (many) I have spoken with are not interested in doing business in New Mexico. Any insights and/or suggestions as to alternatives would be appreciated. Respectfully, Gary Frech, Principal Advanced Technology Consulting, LLC ------------------------------ From: Inelle Subject: What Are the Means of TV Broadcast? Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:52:53 +0800 Organization: University of Macau Hi! I'd like to ask what are the different means of TV broadcast? I mean by cable, digital, or any other? Thanks very much! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:21:35 -0400 From: T Byfield Subject: Nice Quote has a few words about an article by Andrew Leonard (on Salon) about Finland, as well as this observation from Travis Corcoran: A well anarchized telecom infrastructure, being being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Phones, shall not be Infringed. YMMV, but it's an interesting point to meditate on. Cheers, Ted ------------------------------ From: Nortec Communications Subject: Norstar -vs- Partner -vs- Merlin Magix Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:55:37 GMT Organization: Onvoy Any thoughts on the advantages of one system over the other (reliability, features, etc.)? I am familiar with the Norstar system, but know very little about the others. ------------------------------ From: Patrick Townson Subject: Time of Year For Tornados Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:36:00 CDT I recently bought a 'weather radio', one of those devices which sits silently unless/until it is activated by the National Weather Service, at which point it is activated by a siren sound, followed by a weather warning. The first time I heard it at work was Wednesday night, when it went off about every fifteen minutes all night. At about 9:00 PM we had a severe storm, with very high winds and rain. Then at about 11:45 PM we had a second storm even more severe. I would shut off the little weather radio, and after 5-10 minutes it would start again. I had already gone to bed, but decided to sit up and listen to my police scanner for awhile and then I found out what the weather radio had been screaming about all evening. A tornado was in our area, and had flattened much of the town of Parsons, KS, population about ten thousand. Parsons is about fifteen miles northeast of Independence, and the tornado barely missed us. In Parsons, the tornado took down the city hall, and with it the attached police and fire stations, plus quite a few stores in the downtown area. Their '911 service' was inoperative the rest of the night as a result, as well as phone service in general through town as everyone tried to call the police because the local sirens were going off, thoughtfully started about ten minutes earlier by the police department before their own roof blew away. Our own street sirens started going off about the same time, so of course all our own citizens were in an uproar as well. Parsons is a wee bit bigger population-wise than Independence, but both towns are a little smaller than Coffeyville. On the police scanner Wednesday night, Parsons was on the 'mutual assistance frequency' asking for whatever police and fire help could be sent from anywhere. The Parsons Police Department set up emergency operations in the National Guard Amory on Thursday morning, and Fort Riley sent several troops to protect the town and prevent looting, etc. The majority of the town was blocked off on Thursday from automobile traffic, but a large number of townspeople from Parsons and nearby towns walked around in the downtown area to view the damage. Damage is in the millions of dollars. Patrick Townson ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #79 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Thu Apr 20 23:54:31 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA15890; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:54:31 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004210354.XAA15890@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #78 TELECOM Digest Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:54:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 79 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (Linc Madison) "Virtual Switchboard" For Cell Phones/Small Business (Mark Condor) States Outlaw Spam (Monty Solomon) FYI: Correction to Publication Schedule (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Siemens Gigaset 2400 Series (Rupa Schomaker) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Andrew Green) Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Nomen Nescio) Re: Dialpad.com (Stanley Cline) Graun Potential Rise (Felipe Quiroz) Alternative Service Provider (Gary Frech) What are the Means of TV Broadcast? (Inelle) Nice Quote (T. Byfield) Norstar -vs- Partner -vs- Merlin Magix (Nortec Communications) Time of Year for Tornados (Patrick Townson) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. Contact information: Patrick Townson/TELECOM Digest Post Office Box 259 Independence, KS 67301 Phone: 805-545-5115 Email: editor@telecom-digest.org Subscribe/unsubscribe: subscriptions@telecom-digest.org This Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal about telecomm- unications on the Internet, having been founded in August, 1981 and published continuously since then. Our archives are available for your review/research. We believe we are the second oldest e-zine/ mailing list on the internet in any category! 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Please request a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:07:11 -0700 From: Linc Madison Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan J.F. Mezei wrote in Vol 20 # 72: > georgep_on_ca@my-deja.com wrote: >> http://www.gc.ca/) That Canada should get its own country code > Doesn't Canada already have "2" used deep down in some routing tables > etc? No. The country code "1" is not divided except by NPA (area code). Area codes 204 and 250 are in Canada, but 203, 205, 248, and 252 are not. (249 and 251 are currently unassigned.) > Is there some logic in determining how long a country code is to be? > (eg: codes beginning with two are three digits, codes with four are > two digits etc etc)? The length of the country code relates to three factors: population, politics, and timing. Larger countries generally have shorter codes. European countries are more likely to have shorter codes. All codes assigned since about 1990 are three digits. It happens that, in the original assignments, all codes beginning with 4 were two digits, but that's no longer true: 420, 421, and 423 are assigned to the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Liechtenstein, respectively. As for region 2, there are three two-digit assignments: 20, 27, and 21, which are Egypt, South Africa, and the unified numbering plan of North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia), respectively. In any case, the proposal to separate Canada into its own country code is only one idea being discussed. Personally, I think that the benefits to Canada of remaining in the NANP outweigh the disadvantages. More to the point, if Canada were assigned its own country code, it would probably NOT be 1X or even 1XX -- it would probably be something like 295. The only way that Canada could get a 1X or 1XX code would be to force the rest of the NANP to do the same, absent a MAJOR change in ITU rules. Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * Telecom-at-LincMad.com North American Telephone Area Codes & Splits ------------------------------ From: mcondor@mindspring.com (Mark Condor) Subject: "Virtual Switchboard" for cell phones/small business Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:12:27 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises I have an interesting "does this exist question" I am involved in a small business startup. Each employee is going to have a cell phone (Probably Sprint PCS?), for business reasons, and we will also be getting an 800 number for the main business number. The question is, can we come up with some way, via the 800 number, to have the appearance that all these phones are land-lines, and in fact connected to a main switchboard/pbx? Hence my term a "virtual switchboard". Ideally, from the 800 number there would be some voice response menu that would allow for reaching any individual's cell phone, (as well as an option to collect voicemail to the main 800 number) The impetus behind this, is cost savings. Since we will have to have a cell phone each, we would like to save the cost of the phone lines, installation and pbx etc. Any ideas appreciated. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:09:40 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: States Outlaw Spam salon.com > Technology April 19, 2000 At least 18 states have enacted or are working on legislation that would impose stiff penalties on commercial e-mailers who engage in unsavory tactics. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Damien Cave If laws could stop spam, we'd probably get a lot less e-mail. Several state legislatures began trying to regulate commercial e-mail in 1997 and, even as a federal anti-spam bill heads to the House, more states are writing their own legislation -- complete with pricy penalties for violating the law. The following is a summary of state laws that have been enacted or are moving through state legislatures. http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/04/19/state_spam ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Subject: FYI: Correction to Publication Schedule Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:24:13 -0400 CUSTOMER SERVICE NOTE: ICB will not be published from Wednesday, April 19, through Monday, April 24. ICB Staff wishes all who celebrate Passover and Easter, a joyous holiday. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Siemens Gigaset 2400 Series From: Rupa Schomaker Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:36:16 GMT Organization: @Home Network Don House writes: > We have been told that the Gigasets will not work with a line carrying ADSL. > I hope to test this and will let you know what I find out. When COX installed my digital telephone service (switched phone service over your coax cable) they noticed I had a gigaset and said they sometimes have problems with them. They've been upping the voltage on the line (dunno from what to what) for those of us with gigasets and that seems to solve the problems. The only problem he could refer to was that the line in use lights would blink rather than stay on steady. (and funny enough, mine do that even with the increase in voltage) I find it odd that I use sattelite to watch TV and cable to make phone calls and surf the net. rupa ------------------------------ From: Andrew Green Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:32:09 -0500 MLS1955@aol.com writes: > Now, come on ... don't we, in the industry, have anything better > to do than measure the accuracy of a FREE time announcement? I > hate to say it, but after nearly 25 years in this business, I find > your complaint both anal and petty. Well, let's review here: 1) The sole purpose of this announcement is to give the time. 2) The time is wrong. This suggests to me that there is a problem, and it's not with the complainer. If you're concerned about whether the time is correct, you can get a second opinion in our local Ameritech phone directory. In fact you can get upwards of SEVENTY FIVE opinions, judging from the number of (312) 976-xxxx numbers in the Business listings for "Time of Day" or "Time of Day-Chicago" or "Time Weather & Lottery" listed over and over again in column after column of the phone book, differing only in the last four digits of the phone number. Apparently these are paid for by clueless individuals who thought they Getting In on the Ground Floor of the burgeoning (trust me, it's always "burgeoning") 900-number service industry. Obviously they all lead to the same recording; it's sad to look at column after column of these listings and wonder how much each person paid to get themselves into that hopeless list. You'd think they would have looked in the book themselves first; apparently they didn't. Andrew C. Green Datalogics, Inc. 101 N. Wacker, Ste. 1800 http://www.datalogics.com Chicago, IL 60606-7301 ------------------------------ From: Nomen Nescio Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper that works Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:10:01 +0200 CEST Organization: mail2news@zedz.net Anon-Send-To: comp.dcom.telecom >> Well, in response to my inquiry Mike Sandman has done it. His latest >> little black box, called the "Telemarketer Stopper" does exactly what >> I was needing and is line powered. Best of all it's reasonably >> inexpensive at $25.95. (in lots of 3 or more they're $24.95 each) > The price went up since you last checked: $34.95 I'm working on an anti-telemarketing device of my own, one that acts like an auto-attendant in that it requires the caller to enter a passcode before ringing the handset. For an outgoing call the box senses handset offhook and directly connects handset to outside line. It does not depend on CallerID or any special services by the telco. It will need a transformer plugged in to a wall outlet. It'd be nice if I could get the purchase price down to US$50. Steve ------------------------------ From: Stanley Cline Subject: Re: Dialpad.com Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:37:16 -0400 Organization: by area code and prefix (NPA-NXX) Reply-To: sc1@roamer1.org On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:11:29 GMT, baldone@nothing.com (The bald one) wrote: > I just went to the site www.dialpad.com and placed a quick call. It's > working for me. For a few days it suddenly stopped working. Then I > realized I had installed firewall protection for my system. Dialpad > does not work from behind a firewall. Once I turned off the firewall I > was able to make all the calls I wanted. You can fix this and leave the firewall in place; you need to open up TCP port 51210 and UDP ports 51200 and 51201. On my IP-masquerading/firewall Linux box running RedHat 6.1, I use the following rules to open the ports, and auto-forward the ports to my Windows box on the "private" side of the firewall box. (If you have more than one Windows box from which you wish to use Dialpad, you need to do some more complicated setup which I believe is linked from the dialpad site.) # fwd ports 51200,51201,51210 (dialpad) to toccoa # (192.168.34.2 = toccoa, my windows box) # ipchains opens ports, ipmasqadm forwards ports /sbin/ipchains -A input -p tcp -d 0.0.0.0/0 51210 -j ACCEPT /sbin/ipchains -A input -p udp -d 0.0.0.0/0 51200:51201 -j ACCEPT /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 51210 51210 -h 192.168.34.2 /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -A -r udp 51200 51201 -h 192.168.34.2 Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/ "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune ------------------------------ From: Felipe Quiroz Subject: Graun Potential Rise Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:49:06 PDT Hello ... I am Felipe Quiroz from Chile ... I am looking for information about Ground Potential Rise and devices for protection against of that problem, recommendations or anything you can tell my, thanks a lot, if you dont know anything about ... please ... send me a e-mail to tell me anyway. ------------------------------ From: Gary Frech Subject: Alternative Service Provider Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:20:16 -0600 To Whom It May Concern: I am a consultant and have a client in Santa Fe, New Mexico who is developing a mixed use residential, commercial and educational property. The property is remote in that it is outside the telcos base rate area and loop limitations preclude such service as ISDN and DSL. I am looking for service alternatives outside the norm. A wireless option is attractive however all of the firms (many) I have spoken with are not interested in doing business in New Mexico. Any insights and/or suggestions as to alternatives would be appreciated. Respectfully, Gary Frech, Principal Advanced Technology Consulting, LLC ------------------------------ From: Inelle Subject: What Are the Means of TV Broadcast? Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:52:53 +0800 Organization: University of Macau Hi! I'd like to ask what are the different means of TV broadcast? I mean by cable, digital, or any other? Thanks very much! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:21:35 -0400 From: T Byfield Subject: Nice Quote has a few words about an article by Andrew Leonard (on Salon) about Finland, as well as this observation from Travis Corcoran: A well anarchized telecom infrastructure, being being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Phones, shall not be Infringed. YMMV, but it's an interesting point to meditate on. Cheers, Ted ------------------------------ From: Nortec Communications Subject: Norstar -vs- Partner -vs- Merlin Magix Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:55:37 GMT Organization: Onvoy Any thoughts on the advantages of one system over the other (reliability, features, etc.)? I am familiar with the Norstar system, but know very little about the others. ------------------------------ From: Patrick Townson Subject: Time of Year For Tornados Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:36:00 CDT I recently bought a 'weather radio', one of those devices which sits silently unless/until it is activated by the National Weather Service, at which point it is activated by a siren sound, followed by a weather warning. The first time I heard it at work was Wednesday night, when it went off about every fifteen minutes all night. At about 9:00 PM we had a severe storm, with very high winds and rain. Then at about 11:45 PM we had a second storm even more severe. I would shut off the little weather radio, and after 5-10 minutes it would start again. I had already gone to bed, but decided to sit up and listen to my police scanner for awhile and then I found out what the weather radio had been screaming about all evening. A tornado was in our area, and had flattened much of the town of Parsons, KS, population about ten thousand. Parsons is about fifteen miles northeast of Independence, and the tornado barely missed us. In Parsons, the tornado took down the city hall, and with it the attached police and fire stations, plus quite a few stores in the downtown area. Their '911 service' was inoperative the rest of the night as a result, as well as phone service in general through town as everyone tried to call the police because the local sirens were going off, thoughtfully started about ten minutes earlier by the police department before their own roof blew away. Our own street sirens started going off about the same time, so of course all our own citizens were in an uproar as well. Parsons is a wee bit bigger population-wise than Independence, but both towns are a little smaller than Coffeyville. On the police scanner Wednesday night, Parsons was on the 'mutual assistance frequency' asking for whatever police and fire help could be sent from anywhere. The Parsons Police Department set up emergency operations in the National Guard Amory on Thursday morning, and Fort Riley sent several troops to protect the town and prevent looting, etc. The majority of the town was blocked off on Thursday from automobile traffic, but a large number of townspeople from Parsons and nearby towns walked around in the downtown area to view the damage. Damage is in the millions of dollars. Patrick Townson ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #79 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Fri Apr 21 23:17:58 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA26384; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:17:58 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004220317.XAA26384@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #80 TELECOM Digest Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:18:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 80 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: "Virtual Switchboard" For Cell Phones/Small Business (Fred Daniel) Re: "Virtual Switchboard" For Cell Phones/Small Business (David Clayton) Re: "Virtual Switchboard" For Cell Phones/Small Business (Steve Sobol) Re: Long Lines Bells (kamlet@infinet.com) Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Anonymous User) Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Robert Yoder) Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Bilgates Remailer) Re: Alternative Service Provider (The Old Bear) Verizon/BAM/PrimeCo/AirTouch SID Numbers (Brian A. Doreste) How do Comdial Systems Stack Up?? (Rick Inzerillo) Teleport Listing(s) (M7) EPIC Alert 7.07 (Monty Solomon) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Daniel Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: "Virtual Switchboard" For Cell Phones/Small Business Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:37:45 GMT Mark, In our small engineering office of nine persons, each employee has a PCS phone. We use Centrex from the local Bell company. We selected Centrex so we could experiment with various features in our business. The main feature you need, I believe, is called "Off Premises Call Transfer". This allows a person or device to answer calls, offer choices, and transfer the call, thereby being available for the next caller. On our local listed telephone number, we use a Viking Model ACA-1A Automated Attendant. (see www.vikingelectronics.com). Our 800 number forwards to the local listed number. We also have several other Centrex lines for those people who spend much time in the office. For these people, their private Centrex line is setup with "no-answer call forward" so after two rings it forwards to their PCS phone. We can easily re-program the Viking unit anytime, however it is a little unhandy. I believe the Viking unit to be about $200 to $300. There are much better Auto Attendants on the market, and some with voice mail. We prefer to use the FREE PCS voice mail. You can also use some PBX systems, but you will require more lines from the phone company to transfer calls. A final note. Everyone expects a wired phone to always work! PCS phones do not always work indoors. Our PCS phones work generally OK because I arranged to have a "cell site" put on the roof of our office building during the network build out. Therefore, test, test, test, before you accept your solution. Good luck. Fred Daniel ------------------------------ From: David Clayton Subject: Re: "Virtual Switchboard" For Cell Phones/Small Business Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:39:38 +1000 Organization: Customer of Connect.com.au Pty. Ltd. Reply-To: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au mcondor@mindspring.com (Mark Condor) contributed the following: > I have an interesting "does this exist question" > I am involved in a small business startup. Each employee is going to > have a cell phone (Probably Sprint PCS?), for business reasons, and we > will also be getting an 800 number for the main business number. > The question is, can we come up with some way, via the 800 number, to > have the appearance that all these phones are land-lines, and in fact > connected to a main switchboard/pbx? Hence my term a "virtual > switchboard". > Ideally, from the 800 number there would be some voice response > menu that would allow for reaching any individual's cell phone, > (as well as an option to collect voicemail to the main 800 number) ..... Most Voice Mail systems offer IVR facilities such as you require. All you have to do is connect the lines to 'em and program the system to your requirements. www.vodavi-ct.com are one vendor that I know for sure can do what you want. Regards, David Clayton, e-mail: dcstar@acslink.aone.net.au Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Dilbert's words of wisdom #18: Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: "Virtual Switchboard" For Cell Phones/Small Business Date: 22 Apr 2000 01:25:20 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Mark Condor': > I have an interesting "does this exist question" > I am involved in a small business startup. Each employee is going to > have a cell phone (Probably Sprint PCS?), for business reasons, and we > will also be getting an 800 number for the main business number. I came up with an interesting solution to my voice mail problem, which may apply here. I use NextLink for local dialtone, and I have three incoming lines which run straight to the phones - there is no PBX. Now, what happens when I take a call from outside for someone else? NextLink has a Transfer feature that allows you to transfer an incoming call to another number. Could be one of my voicemail boxes, which are provided by an outside contractor (not NextLink), each with its own separate phone number. Could be a cell phone or pager, too. Could be anything with a phone number. Assuming that you're transferring to another landline phone, the caller may never even realize he's being transferred out of the office!! > The question is, can we come up with some way, via the 800 number, to > have the appearance that all these phones are land-lines, and in fact > connected to a main switchboard/pbx? Hence my term a "virtual > switchboard". I found out that the Transfer feature mentioned above does NOT require an additional line. It works the same as an internal transfer on a PBX in that no additional outgoing CO lines are tied up during the transfer. I like that. We are also ordering Busy Transfer and No Answer Transfer so that the voice mail picks up during busy times and after hours. (No Answer Transfer on the first two lines in the huntgroup, Busy Transfer on the last.) > Ideally, from the 800 number there would be some voice response > menu that would allow for reaching any individual's cell phone, > (as well as an option to collect voicemail to the main 800 number) Your mileage may vary, based on your local telco. I'd start by talking to them first. If you want to discuss this further, e-mail me and we will continue the conversation ... North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: kamlet@infinet.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Long Lines Bells Reply-To: kamlet@infinet.com Organization: Voyager.Net In article , Don Kimberlin wrote: >> Bell Telephone** Laboratories >> ** - BTL is 50% owned by Western Electric and 50% owned by AT&T And the way Bell Telephone Labs (BTL) was 50% owned by AT&T & Western Electric was that each owned 1 share. Only 2 shares had been issued. The long-time executive VP of Bell Labs, Julius Molnar, issued proclamations that the name was to be called Bell Telephone Laboratories, Incorporated in all correspondence and usage, and never ever to be abbreviated to, say, Bell Labs. With the 1984 divestiture, Belcore got some of Bell Labs, and AT&T gave up the right to use "Bell" except for Bell Labs, which was renamed from Bell Telephone Laboratories, Incorporated, to AT&T Bell Labs. Not long after, AT&T changed the corporate structure so it owned Bell Labs outright, not as a subsidiary corporation. When the AT&T - Lucent divestiture came (and NCR too) Lucent got to keep the Bell Labs name and most of the people and buildings, and AT&T got some Bell Labs people in what was named AT&T Labs. And a very few went to NCR Labs. When the Lucent fuzzy red bagel logo was designed, it was associated with the words Lucent Technologies and under that, Bell Labs Innovations. (And the Bell Labs logo was bell Labs, with Lucent Technologies in smaller lettering.) > "long distance" was a large portion of a dollar per minute! The RBOCs, > by comparison, were mere "tax farms" for 195 Broadway,... The 195 Broadway building was sold as part of the 1984 divestiture, and rather than have an enormous capital gain on that sale, the building was donated to the newly created AT&T Foundation, and that foundation still funds many of the charitible grants AT&T doles out. When Lucent was spun off, Lucent asked for some of the assets of the AT&T Foundation and was turned down. (Go get your own charitable money.) Art Kamlet Columbus, Ohio kamlet@infinet.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:15:27 +0200 From: Anonymous User Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Organization: mail2news@nym.alias.net >> Well, in response to my inquiry Mike Sandman has done it. His latest >> little black box, called the "Telemarketer Stopper" does exactly what >> I was needing and is line powered. Best of all it's reasonably >> inexpensive at $25.95. (in lots of 3 or more they're $24.95 each) > The price went up since you last checked: $34.95 I'm working on an anti-telemarketing device of my own, one that acts like an auto-attendant in that it requires the caller to enter a passcode before ringing the handset. For an outgoing call the box senses handset offhook and directly connects handset to outside line. It does not depend on CallerID or any special services by the telco. It will need a transformer plugged in to a wall outlet. It'd be nice if I could get the purchase price down to US$50. Steve ------------------------------ From: Robert Yoder Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:36:01 -0600 Organization: Dimensional Communications Nomen Nescio wrote: >>> Well, in response to my inquiry Mike Sandman has done it. His latest >>> little black box, called the "Telemarketer Stopper" does exactly what >>> I was needing and is line powered. Best of all it's reasonably >>> inexpensive at $25.95. (in lots of 3 or more they're $24.95 each) >> The price went up since you last checked: $34.95 > I'm working on an anti-telemarketing device of my own, one that acts > like an auto-attendant in that it requires the caller to enter a > passcode before ringing the handset. For an outgoing call the box > senses handset offhook and directly connects handset to outside > line. It does not depend on CallerID or any special services by the > telco. It will need a transformer plugged in to a wall outlet. It'd > be nice if I could get the purchase price down to US$50. I bought one of those years ago, from an para-military catalog. It cost about $50. It answered the phone and asked for a 4-digit passcode in a distinctly Asian female voice. It the correct passcode was entered, it would generate a ring of it's own. Problem was, if you put it in front of an answering machine, the machine would never pick up, so I sold it to a co-worker. ryoder@dimensional.com "Unix: The Solution to the W2K Problem." [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The ones I have seen had a three digit code assigned to ring an answering machine as well as an actual code to ring the persons in the room. That allowed for people who knew the proper code to leave a message on the machine if I was not at home. The reason the answering machine would not pick up was because the machine made a ring of its own rather than passing voltage down the line to individual instruments as would be required of an answering machine. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:30:02 CDT From: Bilgates Remailer Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Organization: mail2news@zedz.net >> Well, in response to my inquiry Mike Sandman has done it. His latest >> little black box, called the "Telemarketer Stopper" does exactly what >> I was needing and is line powered. Best of all it's reasonably >> inexpensive at $25.95. (In lots of three or more they're $24.95 each). > >The price went up since you last checked: $34.95 I'm working on an anti-telemarketing device of my own, one that acts like an auto-attendant in that it requires the caller to enter a passcode before ringing the handset. For an outgoing call the box senses handset offhook and directly connects handset to outside line. It does not depend on CallerID or any special services by the telco. It will need a transformer plugged in to a wall outlet. It'd be nice if I could get the purchase price down to US$50. Steve ------------------------------ From: oldbear@arctos.com (The Old Bear) Subject: Re: Alternative Service Provider Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:25:04 -0500 Organization: The Arctos Group - http://www.arctos.com/arctos Gary Frech writes: > I am a consultant and have a client in Santa Fe, New Mexico who is > developing a mixed use residential, commercial and educational > property. > The property is remote in that it is outside the telcos base rate area > and loop limitations preclude such service as ISDN and DSL. I am > looking for service alternatives outside the norm. A wireless option > is attractive however all of the firms (many) I have spoken with are > not interested in doing business in New Mexico. > Any insights and/or suggestions as to alternatives would be appreciated. This immediately brought to mind the "Christ in the Desert" monastery which is located in Abiquiu, about two hours by road from Santa Fe. (See: http://www.christdesert.org ) In 1993, the monastery had no electricity and no telephone lines. The monastary is now linked by microwave and has a project called "nextScribe" to develop a self-sustaining business engaged in the modern equivalent of what monastaries did with manuscripts during the middle ages. NextScribe provides a range of web design and hosting services as well as data entry and computer programming work. They also have an ambitious plan to develope an online service for Catholics. See the news story at: http://www.nextscribe.org/ens.html I don't know the details of the telecom arrangement but recall from a TV news story that they were using a microwave link which was set up to service a cellphone tower on their property. You may want to contact nextScribe and see if their network person can give you more information. ------------------------------ From: bdoreste@copland.udel.REMOVE_THIS.edu (Brian A Doreste) Subject: Verizon/BAM/PrimeCo/AirTouch SID Numbers Organization: University of Delaware Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:04:45 GMT Hello all: I am trying to compose a list of all Verizon SID numbers that are in use across the country so I can create a FAQ for programming a tri-mode phone on their system. I have a crude FAQ in the works at http://www.bridog.net/bam.html that you may check out, however in the meantime, if people can send me Verizon SID numbers to post, I'd appreciate it greatly. I already have most of BAM/Verizon SID's on the East Coast, however, feel free to check out my accuracy at http://www.bridog.net/sid.txt Thanks, Brian A Doreste school email: bdoreste 'at' copland.udel.edu PO Box 7740 work email: bdoreste 'at' mail.dot.state.de.us Newark, DE 19714-7740 USA Univ of Delaware Civil Engineering Undergraduate Usual disclaimers apply Delaware Dept of Transportation|Traffic Ops/Mgmt ------------------------------ From: Rick Inzerillo Subject: How do Comdial Systems Stack Up?? Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:52:32 -0400 Organization: The University at Albany How do Comdial systems, namely the DXP-Plus stack up against the competition? We are purchasing a new system and we are having a difficult time making the decision. Does anyone have info on resources available to make such decisions? Thanks, Rick ------------------------------ From: M7 Subject: Teleport Listing(s) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:39:29 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Hello, Does anyone know of a comprehensive list of earth station teleports that provide ISDN connectivity in CONUS? All help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:01:25 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: EPIC Alert 7.07 ============================================================== @@@@ @@@@ @@@ @@@@ @ @ @@@@ @@@@ @@@@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@@@ @@@ @ @ @@@@@ @ @@@ @@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@@@ @ @@@ @@@@ @ @ @@@@ @@@@ @ @ @ ============================================================== Volume 7.07 April 20, 2000 -------------------------------------------------------------- Published by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) Washington, D.C. http://www.epic.org ======================================================================= Table of Contents ======================================================================= [1] House Committee on Intelligence Examines NSA Surveillance [2] EU Fixes Agenda for Hearing on Global Surveillance [3] Appeals Court Rules that Source Code Is Protected Free Speech [4] Pentagon Requests New FOIA Exemption [5] Children's Internet Privacy Law Goes Into Effect [6] EPIC Moves - New Address and Phone Number! [7] EPIC Bookstore -- The Mvr Book Motor Services Guide 2000 [8] Upcoming Conferences and Events ======================================================================= [1] House Committee on Intelligence Examines NSA Surveillance ======================================================================= On April 12, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence conducted a hearing to examine the surveillance capabilities of the National Security Agency (NSA). The hearing follows increasing worldwide concern about international communications monitoring and the "Echelon" satellite interception system in particular. Committee Chairman Porter Goss (R-FL) stated that the Committee itself was "well versed" in NSA intelligence gathering capabilities and was satisfied as to the legitimacy of its activities. He continued, however, that an open hearing was necessary and important in order to reassure the American public that the NSA operates within a strict legal framework. Testifying before the Committee, the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), George J. Tenet, and Director of the NSA, Lieutenant General Michael V. Hayden, explained that under FISA the NSA is authorized to collect information only for foreign intelligence purposes. Both vehemently rejected the idea of unlawful snooping on U.S. citizens claiming that even the most junior of their officers were "unequivocally committed" to acting within the law and protecting the rights of Americans. As regards economic espionage, Hayden and Tenet stressed that the U.S. intelligence community had neither the resources, legal authority nor interest in collecting information for the benefit of U.S. businesses and corporations. Although, said Tenet, signals intelligence can and does provide valuable economic information to certain U.S. government agencies, the NSA is "just not in the business of conducting industrial espionage." One issue during the hearing was the sharing of information about U.S. citizens between the NSA, CIA and domestic law enforcement agencies. Lieutenant General Hayden acknowledged that this kind of cooperation does take place when the dual interests of national security and law enforcement converge. However, he gave no clear indication of the frequency of such occurrences. This issue will be examined in more detail during further hearings into NSA activities, which the House Government Reform Committee, at the urging of Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA), intends to hold later this spring. EPIC is currently preparing a report on these issues to assist in setting the agenda for these hearings. The report is being written by EPIC Senior Research Fellow Duncan Campbell, whose recent report for the European Parliament has led to ongoing debates in Europe. CIA Director George Tenet's statement before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence: http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/dci_speech_041200.html Prepared remarks of Representative Bob Barr: http://www.house.gov/barr/c_041200.html European Parliament report, "Interception Capabilities 2000" (PDF): http://www.europarl.eu.int/dg4/stoa/en/publi/pdf/98-14-01-2en.pdf ======================================================================= [2] EU Fixes Agenda for Hearing on Global Surveillance ======================================================================= The European Parliament will meet on May 4th and is expected to ratify proposals to modify international law to deal with international telecommunications espionage, and to set up a temporary special committee to further investigate the Echelon controversy. The proposals, collectively known as the Echelon resolution, drafted by Graham Watson MEP, Chairman of the Committee on Citizens' Freedoms and Rights, Justice and Home Affairs, assert that international spying on communications should be identified as a breach of fundamental human rights. The motion for debate in May argues that all future interceptions must "have a legal basis, be in the public interest and be strictly limited to the achievement of the intended objective . . . Any form of systematic interception cannot be regarded as consistent with that principle, even if the intended aim is to fight against international crime." It also bluntly asks that "any Member State operating such a system should cease to use it" except for proper purposes of internationally agreed sharing of information to fight serious crime or terrorism. If passed, only strictly military and defense matters would be covered under the "national security" exemption to the treaties joining Europe's nations. The exact scope for the committee of enquiry will be settled at a meeting of high level parliamentarians shortly afterwards. Political groupings within the Parliament have wrangled over what sort of committee should be appointed, and the investigative powers it should be granted. For more on the European Parliament Committee on Citizens' Freedoms and Rights, Justice and Home Affairs: http://www.europarl.eu.int/committees/en/default.htm ======================================================================= [3] Appeals Court Rules that Source Code Is Protected Free Speech ======================================================================= On April 4, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals issued a landmark ruling in the case of Junger v. Daley, holding that encryption source code is protected speech under the First Amendment. Peter Junger is a law professor who four years ago was informed by the U.S. Department of Commerce that he would need an export license to post examples of encryption source code on his website. He then filed suit in the Ohio federal district court claiming that this restriction on his right to publish his encryption code constituted a prior restraint on speech in violation of the First Amendment. In July 1998, Judge Gwin of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Ohio dismissed Junger's claim, holding that as source code was "inherently functional" rather than "inherently expressive" it was not protected speech under the First Amendment. The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed this ruling stating that because "computer source code is an expressive means for the exchange of information and ideas about computer programming ... it is protected by the First Amendment." Having concluded thus, it referred the case back to the district court to decide whether the current encryption export regulations are unconstitutional. This is the third constitutional challenge to the encryption export regulations. It remains to be seen whether the current regulations, which were significantly relaxed in January of this year, can withstand such legal scrutiny. The Sixth Circuit decision on Junger v. Daley: http://pacer.ca6.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/getopn.pl?OPINION=00a0117p.06 EPIC's amicus brief in support of Junger: http://www.epic.org/crypto/export_controls/junger_brief.html Professor Junger's archive of legal materials related to his case: http://samsara.LAW.CWRU.Edu/comp_law/jvd/ ======================================================================= [4] Pentagon Requests New FOIA Exemption ======================================================================= Proposed legislative language would introduce a new exemption for the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The proposal would be attached to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001, H.R. 4205, currently being considered by the House Committee on Armed Services. The proposed exemption would create a new exemption to allow the Departments of Defense and Energy to withhold unclassified information received in confidence from foreign governments or international organizations. The Pentagon believes the new exemption is necessary to avoid the costs of securing such information as if it were confidential information, currently the lowest level of national security information. Groups against the creation of a new level of exempt information, including EPIC, have pointed out that the storage of such information does not necessarily have to protected as if it were confidential but merely at a level equal to the precautions used by the foreign entity that provided the data. More information on the proposed new exemption is available from the Federation of American Scientists: http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2000/04/dodfoia.html ======================================================================= [5] Children's Internet Privacy Law Goes Into Effect ======================================================================= On April 21, the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) will go into effect. The law requires website operators to obtain parental consent before the collection and use of personal information of children up to the age of 13. The type of parental consent necessary is governed by a sliding scale depending on the use of that data. For example, if personal information collected from children is not passed on to third parties, website operators will only have to receive an email from parents allowing that use. If similar personal information is passed on to a third party, more reliable means of verification such as a letter or credit card number will need to be supplied. In related Internet privacy news, a new survey conducted by Odyssey, a market research firm, reveals wide public mistrust of the Internet companies with their personal information. Eighty-two percent of households surveyed agreed with the statement "the government needs to step in and regulate how companies use personal information." An even more convincing 92 percent agreed that "I don't trust companies to keep personal information about me confidential, no matter what they promise." The final rules implementing COPPA are available from the Federal Trade Commission: http://www.ftc.gov/os/1999/9910/childrensprivacy.pdf A more general guide to COPPA is online at: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/coppa.htm ======================================================================= [6] EPIC Moves - New Address and Phone Number! ======================================================================= EPIC has moved offices. Please note the change. 1718 Connecticut Avenue, NW Suite 200 Washington, DC 20009 tel: 202 483 1140 fax: 202 483 1248 ======================================================================= [7] EPIC Bookstore -- The Mvr Book Motor Services Guide 2000 ======================================================================= The Mvr Book Motor Services Guide 2000 : The National Reference Detailing, in Practical Terms, the Privacy Restrictions, Access, Procedures, Regulations by Michael L. Sankey (Editor) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1879792583/electronicprivacA/ The national reference detailing - in practical terms - the privacy restrictions, access procedures, regulations and systems of all state held driver and vehicle records. ================================ EPIC Publications: "Cryptography and Liberty 2000: An International Survey of Encryption Policy," Wayne Madsen and David Banisar, editors, (EPIC 2000). Price: $20. http://www.epic.org/crypto&/ EPIC's third survey of encryption policies around the world. The results indicate that the efforts to reduce export controls on strong encryption products have largely succeeded, although several governments are gaining new powers to combat the perceived threats of encryption to law enforcement. ================================ "The Privacy Law Sourcebook: United States Law, International Law, and Recent Developments," Marc Rotenberg, editor (EPIC 1999). Price: $50. http://www.epic.org/pls/ The "Physicians Desk Reference of the privacy world." An invaluable resource for students, attorneys, researchers and journalists who need an up-to-date collection of U.S. and International privacy law, as well as a comprehensive listing of privacy resources. ================================ "Filters and Freedom - Free Speech Perspectives on Internet Content Controls," David Sobel, editor (EPIC 1999). Price: $20. http://www.epic.org/filters&freedom/ A collection of essays, studies, and critiques of Internet content filtering. These papers are instrumental in explaining why filtering threatens free expression. ================================ "Privacy and Human Rights 1999: An International Survey of Privacy Laws and Developments," David Banisar, Simon Davies, editors, (EPIC 1999). Price: $15. http://www.epic.org/privacy&humanrights99/ An international survey of the privacy and data protection laws found in 50 countries around the globe. This report outlines the constitutional and legal conditions of privacy protection, and summarizes important issues and events relating to privacy and surveillance. ================================ Additional titles on privacy, open government, free expression, computer security, and crypto, as well as films and DVDs can be ordered through the EPIC Bookstore: http://www.epic.org/bookstore/ ======================================================================= [8] Upcoming Conferences and Events ======================================================================= Regulating the Internet: EU & US Perspectives. April 27-29, 2000. European Union Center, the School of Communications, and the Center for Law, Commerce & Technology at the University of Washington. Seattle, WA. For more information: http://jsis.artsci.washington.edu/programs/europe/euc.html Access Act Reform: The Destruction of Records and Proposed Access Act Amendments. Riley Information Services. May 1, 2000. Westin Hotel. Ottawa, Canada. For more information: http://www.rileyis.com/seminars/ Entrust SecureSummit 2000. May 1-4, 2000. Hyatt Regency Dallas at Reunion. Dallas, TX. For more information: http://www.securesummit.com Call for Papers -- 16th Annual Computer Security Applications Conference. Deadline May 12, 2000. Sheraton Hotel. New Orleans, LA. December 11-15, 2000. For more information: http://www.acsac.org/ Electronic Government: New Challenges for Public Administration and Law. May 18, 2000. Center for Law, Public Administration, and Informatization of Tilburg University, Netherlands. For more information: http://schoordijk.kub.nl/crbi/egov/ Shaping the Network: The Future of the Public Sphere in Cyberspace. Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR). May 20-23, 2000. Seattle, WA. For more information: http://www.scn.org/cpsr/diac-00 New Millennium, New Horizons: Marketing and Public Policy Conference 2000. American Marketing Association. June 1-3, 2000. Marriott Metro Center. Washington, DC. For more information: http://www.ama.org/events/ First Annual Institute on Privacy Law: Strategies for Legal Compliance in a High Tech and Changing Regulatory Environment. Practicing Law Institute. June 22-23, 2000. PLI Conference Center. New York, NY. For more information: http://www.pli.edu Telecommunications: The Bridge to Globalization in the Information Society. Biennial Conference of the International Telecommunications Society. July 2-5, 2000. For more information: http://www.its2000.org.ar First International Hackers Forum. The Green Planet. August 18-20, 2000. Zaporozhye, Ukraine. For more information: http://www.geocities.com/hack_forum KnowRight 2000 - InfoEthics Europe. Austrian Computer Society and UNESCO. September 26-29, 2000. Vienna, Austria. For more information: http://www.ocg.at/KR-IE2000.html Privacy2000: Information and Security in the Digital Age. November 29, 2000. Adam's Mark Hotel. Columbus, Ohio. For more information: http://www.privacy2000.org Privacy: A Social Research Conference. New School University. October 5-7, 2000. New York, NY. For more information: http://www.newschool.edu/centers/socres/privacy/ ======================================================================= Subscription Information ======================================================================= The EPIC Alert is a free biweekly publication of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. A Web-based form is available for subscribing or unsubscribing at: http://www.epic.org/alert/subscribe.html To subscribe or unsubscribe using email, send email to epic-news@epic.org with the subject: "subscribe" (no quotes) or "unsubscribe". Back issues are available at: http://www.epic.org/alert/ ======================================================================= About EPIC ======================================================================= The Electronic Privacy Information Center is a public interest research center in Washington, DC. It was established in 1994 to focus public attention on emerging privacy issues such as the Clipper Chip, the Digital Telephony proposal, national ID cards, medical record privacy, and the collection and sale of personal information. EPIC is sponsored by the Fund for Constitutional Government, a non-profit organization established in 1974 to protect civil liberties and constitutional rights. EPIC publishes the EPIC Alert, pursues Freedom of Information Act litigation, and conducts policy research. For more information, e-mail info@epic.org, http://www.epic.org or write EPIC, 1718 Connecticut Ave., NW, Suite 200, Washington, DC 20009. +1 202 483 1140 (tel), +1 202 483 1248 (fax). 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All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. From: Telcomine Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:51:33 +0550 Subject: Telcomine:Trends in Telecom Technology Reply-To: telcomine@infozech.com Organization: ISPL =======================TELCOMINE============================ TELCOMINE - The monthly newsletter that brings the latest trends and developments in frontline IT Technologies. To subscribe mail to: nl@infozech.com To advertise mail to: telcomine@infozech.com ============================================================ **You may forward TELCOMINE to your friends and colleagues** ===================TELCOMINE================================ Trends in Telecom Technology Volume 3, No 4, April 2000 Visit: http://www.telcomine.com ============================================================ ======= IN THIS ISSUE======================================= 1. Mobile Users Beware: Today it is Cronje, Tomorrow it could be you From your best friend your mobile phone could turn your deadliest enemy. This was proved by the sacking of South Africa's cricket captain Hansie Cronje on match fixing charges. Their cellular phones provided tell-tale proof of their wrong doing. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr100.shtml 2. Bollywood Stars Launch Movie Portals Bitten hard by the Internet bug, artists and producers of the Indian film industry are not only setting up their websites But also setting up software and Internet companies. The industry seem to have cottoned on to the dotcom phenomenon pretty fast and their plans are liberally smattered with words like dotcoms, portals along with television software and state-of-the-art studios. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr200.shtml 3. Mobile Telephony Standards War is On Microsoft Case Verdict will hurt Monopolies Attempts by Motorola and Nokia to enforce uniform monopoly standards in wireless telephony are clearly doomed following the historic verdict in the Microsoft anti-trust case. It has established once for all that competition is the soul of trade and must not be sacrificed to monopoly for any other advantage. At stake now is the future of the American Qualcomm standard called the 'CDMA' against Motorola's '1Xtreme'. Obviously the future of Internet and mobiles lies in multiple standards and new technologies that are perfectly inter-connectable at the user's end. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr300.shtml European Institute Proposes M- commerce Standards In an effort to develop a cross-industry exchange both in technology and business model the European Telecommunications Standards Institute plans to spearhead a worldwide mobile commerce partnership program that will work towards addressing business models, security issues and technical standards. 4. When Mobile is Your Purse, Cash and Bank Card Can you think of a life without ready cash? Within five to ten years your mobile phone could be your purse. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr400.shtml 5. Clinton calls India a 21st Century Software Superpower US President Bill Clinton's five - day visit to India in March has given a boost to Indian economy. In farm-yards, schools, stock exchanges and the offices of the state and central governments, "Internet" and "Software" are the new operative words. Almost everyone seems only too eager to work towards the realization of Clinton's vision of India as a "21st century software super-power". Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr500.shtml Hi - Tech Films and Venture Capital Boom Software shares continue to zoom in the stock market. A new indicator is the boom in tele-film shares with more and more movie stars and celebrities jumping on the Internet bandwagon. Indian Bollywood film exports are slated to jump from $100 million last year to $250 million in 2000. Industry circles expect five million Internet connections in India in two years, from one million now. 6. US IT Industry Wants More Entry Permits for Foreign Programmers Information Technology industries in US have appealed to the government to raise the immigration quotas for software engineers. According to estimates 1.5 million "slots" will have to be filled in IT related areas in the next few years. A large number of these may remain vacant to the detriment of the US economy, unless urgent steps are taken to let engineers in. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr600.shtml 7. University Authorities Crackdown on Cyber Plagiarism To control the increasing cases of cheating through the Internet, a new software has been developed that by checking the finger print pattern would help detecting if the material written by university students are original and are not lifted up from the Internet. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr700.shtml 8. FTC Drive Against Sites Offering False Get-Rich-Quick Schemes The Federal Trade Commission of US has announced a massive drive across 28 countries to target fraudulent, get-rich-quick schemes on the Internet. The crackdown which is the largest of its kind has highlighted more than 1600 suspect websites. The sites would be told to stop or change their claims. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr800.shtml 9. Could Robots, Genetic Scientists wipe out Humanity by 2030? A Futurologist's Nightmare Could robots with super-human power or scientists armed with genetic or micro-electronic forces that could "self replicate" with the force of the Big Bang) wipe out the human race in no time? By no means entirely new, the question has been posed with a fresh sense of urgency by the well known philosopher scientist Bill Joy of Sun Microsystems. In the style of Orwell's "1984" Joy predicts this should become technically feasible by 2030. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr900.shtml Five GNR- Triggered Doomsday Scenarios Citing several leading scientists, Joy discusses five GNR- triggered doomsday possibilities. It could be set off by a "Unabomber" or Luddite acting on his own. It could be the cascading effect of a limited experiment in a self-replication going out of control. Financial and competitive pressures of the unchallenged system of global capitalism could lead to the development of a product or products capable of destroying humanity. As the new GNR systems gain in complexity and acquire a momentum of their own one simple mistake or miscalculation in handling them might bring an end to the world as we know it. And, it might well be caused by a mere "accident". God, Nietzche and Big Bang In pointing to the dangers inherent in self-replication at lightning speed Joy and other scientists may have hit upon the deepest of the secrets of the universe. The creation of the universe through the Big Bang represents the ultimate limits and possibilities of such self- replications. If billions of galaxies could spread out in a flash, as it were, replication as a "fundamental" force of creation could trigger another Big Bang. And the universe could wind up as rapidly as it came into being (to unfurl again after aeons of time!). 10. Harrod Fayed Wins Dodi Al Fayed's Domain Name Dispute In a remarkable case Harrod Fayed, father of Dodi Al Fayed, who was killed along with Princess Diana in a car accident, won 'dodialfayed.com' domain name dispute case. A US resident had registered Dodi Al Fayed's personal name as Domain name and had tried selling it off at an auction website, greatdomains.com, for $4,00,000. He was accused of capitalizing unfairly on the fame and public interest in Dodi. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1000.shtml 11. Security Alliance Offers Free Anti-Hacking tools In the wake of the denial of service attacks that had paralyzed various popular e-commerce sites in February this year, icsa.net, is offering an anti-hacking tool, at no cost. The tool would determine if a site's filters and security systems are in place and configured properly, so that it does not become a victim to another attack. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1100.shtml 12. FBI alerts on New Deadly "911 Worm" Virus The Federal Bureau of Investigation, in April, alerted about a new virus that erases hard drives and makes bogus 911 calls. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1200.shtml 13. Billing Solution 'eBill' Makes a Hit in Ireland Using Infozech's 'eBill' Billing Solution the Ireland based Orbitel Communications has successfully billed its customers for local, national and international calls and has expressed deep satisfaction in eBill- Infozech's billing solution. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1300.shtml 14. IBM's New High Speed Copper Chip Saves Mobile Phone Power IBM has claimed that batteries of mobile phones equipped with its latest copper-wired chip will have 50 percent longer life. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1400.shtml 15. Internet to Get More Ads Than TV New York based Economic Research firm in its latest study revealed that by 2005 the global online advertising spending will jump from $5.28 billion to $45.5 billion by 2005, surpassing the, TV. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1500.shtml 16. Cell Phone to Read Out e-mail, Internet Content to you Lernout & Hauspie have developed a cell-phone that can read out to you your email or any other information from the Internet that you might ask for. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1600.shtml 17. Wireless Portal adds Voice to Its Services Oracle's Oramobile which is the first comprehensive consumer wireless Internet portal will now allow callers to talk directly to the page and have the web content read back to them. This facility will allow the non-WAP enabled mobile users to get the same services. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1700.shtml 18. Japan - US Tussle on Telecom Rates The two-way feud between Japan and US over the "cost-oriented interconnection rates" reaches a turning point when Japan answered back US Threatening of, going to the WTO, by saying that they are doing their best to cut telecom rates. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1800.shtml 19. Boeing, Lockheed, BAE and Raytheon Launch Exclusive Aviation Net Exchanges Coming close on the heels of the auto exchange, four aerospace giants have now announced a similar net convergence exchange to handle their $ 71 billion transaction. This opens up a new trend of industries creating exclusive pocket all over the Internet. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr1900.shtml 20. Digital TV to Overtake PC for Home Run e-Commerce All e-commerce operation can now be handled by a "remote" operating an interactive Digital TV from the comfort of a sofa or a bed. Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr2000.shtml 21. MAILBOX "Make Money By Hacking Hackers" Details: http://www.infozech.com/articles/apr2100.shtml ================================================================== Mobile Users Beware: Today it is Cronje, Tomorrow it could be you ================================================================== From your best friend your mobile phone could turn your deadliest enemy. This was proved by the sacking of South Africa's cricket captain Hansie Cronje over match fixing charges. Their cellular phones provided tell-tale proof of their wrong doing. The success of the Delhi Police in fixing not only Cronje, but also four businessmen by breaking into their worldwide mobile network, casts the entire field of mobile telephony and M-commerce in a new light. The Delhi Police has presented what it calls "overwhelming evidence" not only against the alleged culprits in a sensational international scandal but also against their main tool, the mobile phone itself. Consider what the case has revealed: 1. The cell-phone is too personal. By constant use the cell phone becomes part of your identity like your signature or thumb impression. It is your daily diary, your, and only your, record of social and business transactions. 2. It creates a long trail of your movements and activities. Being mobile and attached to your person you are leaving behind on its central data bank not only your own footprints but of all those with whom you communicate. 3. It makes you a sitting duck. If you have a "roaming mobile", those watching you do not have to follow you, or form inter-city or inter-country teams to watch you at airports and hotels. Only one person sitting in a quite corner with electronic access to the control center of your personal cell-phone provider can merrily collect nearly all the information he needs on you and your associates. 4. Not only governments, but individuals also can watch it all. Elsewhere in this issue of Telcomine we carry a review of a long essay by the philosopher-scientist Bill Joy which shows that within a few years such detective powers will become a common property. Eric Drexler, the famous nano technologist and futurologist has shown how an invisible micro-electronic or micro biological particle attached to an instrument could secretly transmit data hundreds of miles away. And from Israel now comes the news that its researchers have discovered design flaws that allow the descrambling of supposedly private conversations carried by hundreds of millions of wireless phones. These are only some of the daunting scenarios that should make our mobile maniacs pause and ponder. ================================================================ Bollywood Stars Launch Movie Portals ================================================================ Bitten hard by the Internet bug, artists and producers of the Indian film industry are not only setting up their websites but also setting up software, Internet companies and state of the art studios. Film exports are estimated to fetch $250 million this year against $100 million last year. Devgan Entertainment & Software, a company owned by star couple Ajay Devgan and Kajol, intends to set up a state-of -the-art digital studio in Mumbai, produce and market television software as well as launch a full fledged entertainment portal. Boney Kapoor, producer and director of many hit films, also has plans to launch portals and enter the software sector. Online is producer Subhash Ghai of 'Taal' fame and music company 'Tips'. The technology for editing, recording and dubbing provided by India's Romoji film city is considered at par with the best in the world. ================================================================ Mobile Telephony Standards War is On Microsoft Case Verdict will Hurt Monopolies =============================================================== Attempts by Motorola and Nokia to enforce uniform monopoly standards in wireless telephony are clearly doomed following the historic verdict in the Microsoft anti-trust case. It has established once for all that competition is the soul of trade and must not be sacrificed to monopoly for any other advantage. At stake now is the future of the American Qualcomm standard called the 'CDMA' against Motorola's '1Xtreme'. Obviously the future of Internet and mobiles lies in multiple standards and new technologies that are perfectly inter-connectable at the user's end. Motorola and Nokia together have called for wireless technology standards based on Motorola's "1Xtreme", a wireless transmission method capable of handling voice and high speed Internet access for future wireless networks. Wireless Carriers expect to launch mobile Internet services Over hones and higher-speed connections as a prerequisite to Offering much more -- graphics, video images -- than the simple text messages and content such as stock quotes and sports scores -- that the current systems allow. Both the third generations wireless technologies, from Qualcomm to the Motorola-Nokia combination aspire to solve the capacity problem. The '1Xtreme' proposal enables real time voice, data and multimedia services on existing cdma 200 networks allowing end users to browse the Internet from a personal computer or access email while moving. According to Nokia '1Xtreme' will offer operators a cost effective migration path to provide integrated voice and data a speed up to 5.2 mega bits per second on a single 1.25 MHz code division multiple access carrier. It is slated for commercial service in 2002. America's CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) transmits simultaneous signals over a shared portion of the spectrum. It is less costly to implement, requiring fewer cell sites than the GSM and TDMA digital cell phone systems and providing three to five times the calling capacity. It provides more than 10 times the capacity of the analog cellphone system (AMPS). CDMA transmission has been used by the military for secure phone calls. European Institute Proposes M-commerce Standards In an effort to develop a cross-industry exchange both in technology and business model the European Telecommunications Standards Institute plans to spearhead a worldwide mobile commerce partnership program that will work towards addressing business models, security issues and technical standards. ETSI stresses that it wants the program to tackle issues such as how mobile and fixed e-commerce applications will work together. In March it has finalized the transposition of the first series of 3GPP Release 99 specifications into the UMTS (Universal Mobile Telecommunications System) standard. This release will enable industry to proceed with the development of the system, which is planned to come into service in Japan in 2001, with progressive launches around the world in 2002. According to Joanne Taaffe in EMAP Media, the ongoing introduction of wireless Application Protocol (WAP) followed by GPRS networks has created a momentum for group standards work. The operators stress that cross-industry co-operation is needed. Visit: http://www.etsi.org =============================================================== When Mobile is Your Purse, Cash and Bank Card =============================================================== Can you think of a life without ready cash? Within five to ten years your mobile phone could be your purse. Producing instant "virtual" cash for all you may wish to buy with your money in the bank. Banks , financial institutions and mobile phone companies are now teaming up to make this dream a reality. Their target: one billion e-commerce ready mobile phones hitting $500 billion in trade transactions in 2005, to double in another five years. Over 1 billion e-commerce-ready wireless phones will exist within five years. Demand for mobile banking, payments, shopping, entertainment and other applications are burgeoning. M-commerce will revolutionize the banking sector. According to a report released by Yankee group, titled -"Mobile Banking : Paving the Way for Wireless Commerce in Europe" -"banks and mobile operators are clearly mutually dependent. The provision of services and the development of the market is contingent on the establishment of alliances and cooperative agreements between financial institutions and network operators". "Banks are among the prime movers in e-commerce development not least because their target market comprises third parties, as well as users end," says Jonathan Doran, analyst at the Yankee Group Europe. The report focuses on mobile banking and financial services, as the Yankee Group believes that these applications constitute the stepping stones towards a wider mobile e-commerce environment. Wireless operators, Internet retailers, content providers, smart card manufactures, mobile device retailers and system integrators will all benefit immensely from the rise of mobile e-commerce. ================================================================ Clinton Calls India a 21st Century Software Superpower =============================================================== US President Bill Clinton's five - day visit to India in March has given a boost to Indian economy. In farm-yards, schools, stock exchanges and the offices of the state and central governments, "Internet" and "Software" are the new operative words. Almost everyone seems only too eager to work towards the realization of Clinton's vision of India as a "21st century software super-power". The real revolution seems to have occurred in the minds of the youth who are making a beeline to schools and institutions imparting skills and knowledge of Internet use and software development. In the short run this promises a mushroom growth of ill-equipped private software coaching centers, out to make a fast buck. But state and central governments are rushing in with budgetary support to start computer courses in some 10,000 schools. Centers of excellence in information technology for hundreds of students are to be set up in all the 25 states of the country. The central government plans to create 25 software technology parks (or hi-tech townships) one in each state. There is a new thrust towards "Internet for the rural masses" in the new vision statement issued after Clinton's visit by Pramod Mahajan, Minister for Information Technology. Clinton was most impressed by a milk dairy transacting its business over computer as part of a state-wide dairy chain in Rajasthan during his visit to the state. But the major thrust in all this comes from the private sector. Almost everyday hordes of foreign businessmen are landing in different IT- hub cities in India with money and projects to take advantage of the Internet boom. The government for its part has lined up billions of dollars worth of infra-structural facilities to help them. Hi - Tech Films and Venture Capital Boom Software shares continue to zoom in the stock market. A new indicator is the boom in tele-film shares with more and more movie stars and celebrities jumping on the Internet bandwagon. Indian Bollywood film exports are slated to jump from $100 million last year to $250 million in 2000. Industry circles expect five million Internet connections in India in two years, from one million now. The biggest indicator of the transformation is in the salaries of the top software professionals which have shot up from thousands to hundreds of thousands of rupees, at least a twenty - time jump, in 10 years, and are still rising. The happiest trend is a reverse brain drain, with many Indian expatriates in America looking homeward, lured by the prospects of harvesting the new Venture Capital tide sweeping the IT industry. ================================================================ US IT Industry Wants More Entry Permits for Foreign Programmers ================================================================ Information Technology industries in US have appealed to the government to raise the immigration quotas for software engineers. According to estimates 1.5 million "slots" will have to be filled in IT related areas in the next few years. A large number of these may remain vacant to the detriment of the US economy, unless urgent steps are taken to let engineers in. The entry quotas for some countries have been exhausted and next year's quotas will become operative only after October 2000. The matter is now before the US Congress. ============================================================ University Authorities Crackdown on Cyber Plagiarism ============================================================ To control the increasing cases of cheating through the Internet, a new software has been developed that by checking the finger print pattern would help detecting if the material written by university students are original and are not lifted up from the Internet. The new software assigns a virtual fingerprint to each student which shows their style - how long their sentence and paragraphs are, how often do they use adjectives and adverbs. By checking this pattern, it can detect instantly whether a student is presenting his or her own material. Around 117 students at the University of Edinburgh were accused of using e-mail to copy each other's course work. A similar product was featured in Telcomine's March issue in which a standard computer with the help of an embedded fingerprint-scanning device can establish the true identity of the user. The mouse ensures that only authorized users gain access to computers and website. Article: Mouse That Can Establish User's Identity http://www.infozech.com/articles/mar1800.shtml ================================================================ FTC Drive Against Sites Offering False Get-rich-quick Schemes ================================================================ The Federal Trade Commission of US has announced a massive drive across 28 countries to target fraudulent, get-rich-quick schemes on the Internet. The crackdown which is the largest of its kind has highlighted more than 1600 suspect websites. The sites would be told to stop or change their claims. The FTC press release said the team will launch prosecution against the sites which continue to make fraudulent or deceptive claims through their get-rich-quick schemes. According to Jodie Bernstein, Director Bureau of Consumer Protection , FTC, "this is the largest ever international law enforcement project to fight fraud on the Internet, with 150 organizations in 28 countries on 5 continents, including seven US federal agencies, 49 state consumer protection agencies, 34 state attorneys general and 39 Better Business Bureaus." ================================================================ Could Robots, Genetic Scientists Wipe Out Humanity by 2030? A Futurologist's Nightmare ================================================================ Could robots with super-human power or scientists armed with genetic or micro-electronic forces that could "self replicate" (with the force of the Big Bang) wipe out the human race in no time? By no means entirely new, the question has been posed with a fresh sense of urgency by the well known philosopher - scientist Bill Joy of Sun Microsystems. In the style of Orwell's "1984" Joy predicts this should become technically feasible by 2030. "Self-replication" is the key to Joy's thesis. "It is even possible that self-replication may be more natural than we thought and hence harder - or even impossible- to control", he says in an article in the April issue of Wired magazine. His primary concern, however is not the process of self- replication but the fantastic speed it has acquired in each of the three GNR (Genetics, Nanotechnology and Robotics) technologies. The potential of mischief is in the speed with which, for instance, "tough omnivorous 'bacteria' (produced micro-electronically) could outcompete 'real' bacteria. They could spread like pollen, replicate swiftly and reduce the biosphere to dust in a matter of days ...", he says quoting Eric Drexler, Founder of Foresight Institute and well known author of "Engines of Creation". In the fusion of the GNR technologies (with his own information technology or robotics as the bedrock perhaps.) Joy sees the possibility, emerging for the first time, of this tremendous destructive power falling into the hands of individuals anywhere by 2030. Five GNR-Triggered Doomsday Scenarios Among the dangers he visualizes is the emergence of a robot more intelligent than man. How soon can such an intelligent robot be built? The coming advances in computing power seem to make it a reality by 2030. And once an intelligent robot is created, it is only a small step to a robot species which, many scientists believe can wipe out humans. Citing several leading scientists, Joy discusses five GNR- triggered doomsday possibilities. It could be set off by a "Unabomber" or Luddite acting on his own. It could be the cascading effect of a limited experiment in a self-replication going out of control. Financial and competitive pressures of the unchallenged system of global capitalism could lead to the development of a product or products capable of destroying humanity. As the new GNR systems gain in complexity and acquire a momentum of their own one simple mistake or miscalculation in handling them might bring to an end the world as we know it. And, it might well be caused by a mere "accident". God, Nietzche and Big Bang He then goes on to discuss philosopher Nietzeche's warning of the dangerous consequences of quest for (scientific) truth "at any price" and adds that "truth that science seeks can certainly be considered a dangerous substitute for God if it has the potential to lead to our extinction". In pointing to the dangers inherent in self-replication at lightning speed Joy and other scientists may have hit upon the deepest of the secrets of the universe. The creation of the universe through the Big Bang represents the ultimate limits and possibilities of such self-replications. If billions of galaxies could spread out in a flash, as it were, replication as a "fundamental" force of creation could trigger another Big Bang. And the universe could wind up as rapidly as it came into being (to unfurl again after aeons of time!). Perhaps Nietzeche was referring to this cosmic force which Christianity calls God's will to which man can aspire through science, rather than faith, only at his own peril. Eastern philosophies see this phenomenon as a cosmic manifestation of His will. Says the Gita: Yea! this vast company of living things- again and yet again produced - "expires at Brahma's Nightfall; and, at Brahma's Dawn riseth, without its will, to life new born..... The worlds - even Brahma's world - roll back again from Death to Life's unrest". ================================================================ Harrod Fayed Wins Dodi Al Fayed's Domain Name Dispute ================================================================ In a remarkable case Harrod Fayed, father of Dodi Al Fayed, who was killed along with Princess Diana in a car accident, won 'dodialfayed.com' domain name dispute case. A US resident had registered Dodi Al Fayed's personal name as Domain name and had tried selling it off at an auction website, greatdomains.com, for $400,000. He was accused of capitalizing unfairly on the fame and public interest in Dodi. A complaint was launched by Harrod, for misusing the trademark 'Dodi Fayed'. As this is a violation of rightful trademark in cyberspace the case was filed with WIPO's (World Intellectual Property Organization) arbitration center. The WIPO ruled that the commercial impression is that the domain name is associated with goods and services sponsored by Dodi. It was also clear that the respondent has no right or legitimate respect of the domain name since he has offered to sell it off for a large amount. The WIPO panel has directed a name transfer of the domain name to Harrods. ================================================================ Security Alliance Offers Free Anti-Hacking tools ================================================================ In the wake of the denial of service attacks that had paralyzed various popular e-commerce sites in February this year, icsa.net, is offering an anti-hacking tool, at no cost. The tool would determine if a site's filters and security systems are in place and configured properly, so that it does not become a victim to another attack. The tool, NetLitmus, will be available to anyone who joins the alliance. It can not only detect any misconfigured systems in an organization, but will also determine if the organization's ISP is doing its job. According to the icsa website, early testing with this tool shows that the majority of companies do not have meaningful filtering in place. Less than 15% of the initial corporate users of the tool had appropriate filtering. Similarly, less than half of the corporation's ISPs had functional filtering for spoofed or fake addresses. The alliance was formed in February after the denial of service attack against yahoo, ebay and other major Internet sites. Till now more than 650 ISPs, security vendors, major corporations and industry leaders have joined the force. To become the member of the alliance, organizations must pledge to adopt security measures that address DDoS. Visit : http://www.icsa.net ================================================================ FBI alerts on New Deadly "911 Worm" Virus ================================================================ The Federal Bureau of Investigation, in April alerted about a new virus that erases hard drives and makes bogus 911 calls. The FBI's advisory warned that the 911 Worm, also known as Chode or Firkin, could delete the contents of a victim's hard drive, and use the computer's modem to place calls to 911 emergency lines. The FBI said the worm infects Windows 95/98 PCs connected to the Internet and which have had Windows file or print sharing enabled. The FBI and NIPC are continuing to investigate the virus. The NIPC - National Infrastructure Protection Center-- brings together representatives of the FBI, governments agencies and the private sector to protect the nation's computer networks. According to NIPC , the virus spreads by attacking computers with Windows operating systems set up to allow users to share files over the Internet. ================================================================ Billing Solution 'eBill' Makes a Hit in Ireland ================================================================ Using Infozech's 'eBill' Billing Solution the Ireland based Orbitel Communications has successfully billed its customers for local, national and international calls and has expressed deep satisfaction in eBill- Infozech's billing solution. "The professionalism, commitment and technical expertise of all Infozech personnel involved to date is exceptional. We are delighted to progress our business relationship with Infozech to in the foreseeable future and have no hesitation in recommending them as a new technology business partner" said Andrew Dignam, Director of Orbitel Communications. eBill- the complete billing and customer care solution from Infozech has modules that will map every department of the company be it management, billing, customer care or sales agent. eBill provides software solutions for telecom services like Internet telephony, Internet fax services, toll free numbers, calling cards, Internet services and callback. For more details on eBill contact sales@infozech.com ================================================================ IBM's New High Speed Copper Chip Saves Mobile Phone Power ================================================================ IBM has claimed that batteries of mobile phones equipped with its latest copper-wired chip will have 50 percent longer life. The new 30 percent faster chip uses a material known as "low-k-dielectric" to shield its millions of individual copper circuits, reducing electrical "crosstalk" between wires that can hinder chip performance and waste power. According to John Kelly, General manager of the IBM Microelectric Division, "along with the move from Aluminum to Copper to improve chip wiring, we believe this will help IBM a one- to -two year lead over the rest of the industry." IBM has also announced a custom chip offering called Cu-11. It will support design up to an unprecedented 40 million "gates' or circuits. ================================================================ Internet to Get More Ads Than TV ================================================================ New York based Economic Research firm in its latest study revealed that by 2005 the global online advertising spending will jump from $5.28 billion to $45.5 billion by 2005, surpassing the, TV. According to Reuters that cited a study from Myers group, the rise in online ad expenditure will soon eclipse TV and Cable. The study found that network broadcast advertising revenues will grow from $16.8 billion to $19.2 billion or 82% of global online ad spending this year. By 2005, US spending will rise to $32.5 billion, accounting for 71% of the worldwide total of $45.5 billion. At the same time , cable ad revenue will grow from $10.1 billion in 2000 to $23.8 billion in 2005. The higher online ad spending will come from traditional industries such as autos, entertainment, financial services, telecommunications, travel and tourism. ================================================================ Cell Phone to Read Out e-mail, Internet Content to you ================================================================ Lernout & Hauspie have developed a cell-phone that can read out to you your email or any other information from the Internet that you might ask for. The prototype is essentially a mobile phone with a 2 by 3 inches LCD, a microphone and a speaker. It uses a 233-MHz StrongArm processor and runs on Linux. Marking the convergence of voice recognition and text-to-speech technology , the facility does away with the straining of eyes while scanning the small screen. The prototype has a large vocabulary, continuous speech dictation engine to send and receive e-mails, surf the web and conduct e-commerce transactions. According to Gaston Bastiaens, President and CEO of L&H, "The small size and portability of PDAs, handheld and mobile devices have made them tremendously popular and at the same time provided a huge opportunity for the speech industry. The pricing is expected to be in the range of $300 to $500. ================================================================ Wireless Portal adds Voice to Its Services ================================================================ Oracle's Oramobile which is the first comprehensive consumer wireless Internet portal will now allow callers to talk directly to the page and have the web content read back to them. This facility will allow the non-WAP enabled mobile users to get the same services. "We are giving people who don't have new, expensive (Web- enabled) phones the ability to access the service," said Jacob Christ, Oracle mobile's CTO. This portal will increase the availability of the Internet to hundreds of millions of people who have phones but may not be able to access PCs. The portal is a subsidiary of Oracle and it includes news, stocks and entertainment information as a free service over the wireless web and it expects to earn revenue for advertisements and small cuts of transaction revenues. The portal is based on Oracle's portal-to-Go(tm) technology. http://www.oraclemobile.com ================================================================ Japan - US Tussle on Telecom Rates ================================================================ The two-way feud between Japan and US over the "cost-oriented interconnection rates" reaches a turning point when Japan answered back US threatening of, going to the WTO, by saying that they are doing their best to cut telecom rates. Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corp (NTT) had failed to implement "cost-oriented interconnection rates" which telecommunications firms must pay for access to NTT's local phone lines. The United States has complained that Japan promised to cut interconnection charges by only 22 percent by 2004. US wants cuts of up to 50 percent over two years in the charges. Tokyo has offered 22.5 percent cuts to be implemented over four years, insisting that bigger cuts would jeopardize NTT's profits and threaten its workers' jobs. Washington, the European Union and Japanese industry say Tokyo's plan for a four-year phase in of cuts would keep rates at a level that was far higher than in other countries with a liberalized telecommunications regime. US asserts that by keeping interconnection charges high, telephone charges to consumers are artificially inflated and competition is impeded. ================================================================ Boeing, Lockheed, BAE and Raytheon Launch Exclusive Aviation Net Exchange ============================================================ Coming close on the heels of the auto exchange, four aerospace giants have now announced a similar net convergence exchange to handle their $ 71 billion transaction. This opens up a new trend of industries creating exclusive pocket all over the Internet. The Boeing company of Seattle, MD based Lockheed Martin Corp., Britain's BAE Systems and Raytheon CO. of Lexington, along with Commerce One have announced the creation of an independent enterprise that will develop an internet trading exchange for the global aerospace and defense industry. All the four companies will have equal share in the joint venture. Commercial and military sales in the aerospace industry are worth more than $400 billion a year. The four companies purchase a combined $71 billion in supplies and parts annually. According to Raytheon Chairman and CEO Dan Burnham, "We are excited about the potential of this innovation e-commerce trading exchange. By bringing the supply chain management expertise of the industry's leaders to a single, online marketplace, we will put customers, suppliers and employees a mouse click away from achieving greater productivity, efficiency and cost savings." The exchange which will become operational by mid-year will be open to all aerospace and defense companies, airlines, their suppliers, manufacturers, government departments and service providers. ================================================================ Digital TV to Overtake PC for Home Run e- Commerce ================================================================ All e-commerce operation can now be handled by a "remote" operating an interactive Digital TV from the comfort of a sofa or a bed. No longer will PC and phones remain the only media to access the net. According to Forrester Research, interactive digital TV will overtake the Internet as the primary platform for home operated e-commerce in Europe by 2005. According to Noah Taskin, analyst with Jupiter's European Internet Strategies research practice, "Interactive DTV opens up vast opportunities for retailer financial services and others by creating a new channel directly into consumers homes, but it also disrupts the Internet economy, changing consumer behavior and rearranging the suppliers' landscape. Consumers can now choose to access e-mail, shopping and even the Web from their TVs or their PCs." Jupiter research shows DTV - Digital Television -- penetration will increase from seven percent in 1999 to 33 percent by 2003 in Western Europe. The number of households with DTV access will more than quadruple, increasing from 11.3 million in 1999 to 50.8 million by 2003. The UK, Denmark and Germany will enjoy the highest DTV penetration accounting for 52, 41 and 40 percent of households, respectively. Digital TV is experimenting with new broadband Internet services that could be offered via satellite if home sets had larger storage. ================================================================ MAILBOX ================================================================ "Make Money By Hacking Hackers" ! I love the story. (Indian Boy's Internet Privacy Software Makes History - Telcomine January 2000). It is about time youth who have the abilities to do hacking can now make money at their hobby.- Jason Dunframe Looking for software to detect if my computer is being used by hackers. Joseph Schnell We have featured one tool in our current issue itself -Security alliance offers free anti-hacking tools.- hope it solves your purpose. - Editor How can I get hold of the original article by George Gilder? - Mabud Hossain It was featured in Forbes ASAP magazine. - Editor If I want to have PC- to- phone services using a multimedia PC, what are the things that I need to consider? - Grace Ylanan Kindly have a look at our December 99 and January 2000 issue where we have featured such services. -Editor I am interested in subscribing to your newsletter. Please let me know what the procedure is.-Prof. Dr. Cees J. Hamelink Burg. Hogguerstraat Amsterdam I am a Malaysian and I would like to thank you for the helpful articles in your site. THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE ALWAYS TELCOMINE...- Chandra Reka Topics covered in this issue are informative and interesting. Keep up the good work.- Punit Shukla Heartiest thanks for an excellent newsletter on telecom. Please make it a daily publication.- R.K.Gupta ================================================================ Executive Editor: Pragya Singh If you have any ideas and suggestions to improve TELCOMINE Contact Editor: telcomine@infozech.com or simply reply to this mail with your idea. If you have a new product or service that you would like us to mention. Send details to telcomine@infozech.com If you have found Telcomine useful, please consider telling others about it. To Subscribe: nl@infozech.com Advertise: telcomine@infozech.com Fax: 408-490-2840 Voice Mail : 408-490-2842 ------------------------------ From: Bruce Weaver Subject: Bell Atlantic OSP/Planning Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 03:18:34 GMT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Can anyone tell me what the structure of the BA outside plant engineering and outside plant planning department is? I work for GTE and would like to know what's in store for us. Are the engineering and planning departments separate? At what level do they come together? Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:18:59 -0400 From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: New Record For Archives Web Pages I am pleased to announce that on Friday, April 21 (actually starting at 4:01 AM Eastern on Friday and running through 4:00 AM on Saturday morning, http://telecom-digest.org had a new record number of visitors. We had 33,449 visitors as of 2:00 AM Eastern. Over the past two weeks, the visitor count has been above ten thousand each day. The way I count is by extracting telecom-archives from the LCS/MIT master logs. From this extraction, I then deduct all the GIF/ files and other odds and ends. Then I deduct the known search engines and the instances of my own usage. Then I deduct another 10 percent as an arbitrary thing to allow for search engines I missed. That left me today with 33,449 visitors. Over the past two weeks, I saw this coming; a gradually higher count day by day. I still persist that the web site -- really all web sites -- should be non-privacy invasive and non-commercial. Apparently a lot of readers are in agreement with me. I am wondering now just how far this will go; what kind of level will be reached next. Thank you for making it happen. PAT ------------------------------ From: A.E. Siegman Subject: Re: Long Lines Bells Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:10:21 -0700 Organization: Stanford University In article , kamlet@infinet.com wrote: > The long-time executive VP of Bell Labs, Julius Molnar, issued > proclamations that the name was to be called Bell Telephone > Laboratories, Incorporated in all correspondence and usage, and > never ever to be abbreviated to, say, Bell Labs. Bell Labs seems to have been retentive about names. When the first laser was successfully operated (**not** at Bell Labs, but at Hughes Research Labs Malibu), Bell Labs had a share, in some combination with Townes at Columbia, in patent rights on the maser (microwave predecessor of the laser). For a considerable period of time, many if not all the technical journal articles coming from Bell Labs seemed to use the term "optical maser" and not laser, and I suspect this was not accidental. ------------------------------ From: tthiel@slonet.org (Tom Thiel) Subject: Re: Norstar -vs- Partner -vs- Merlin Magix Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:57:56 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:55:37 GMT, Nortec Communications wrote: > Any thoughts on the advantages of one system over the other (reliability, > features, etc.)? I am familiar with the Norstar system, but know very > little about the others. I think if you would describe your requirements for features, capabilities, line and station sizing, station type, etc., an answer could be had. Tom Thiel tthiel@slonet.org "Remember, it don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that certain je ne sais quoi" - Peter Schickele (PDQ Bach) ------------------------------ From: Louis Raphael Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Organization: Societe pour la promotion du petoncle vert Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:40:21 GMT Gary Shapiro wrote: > Are LECs under any obligation to provide a reasonable facsimile of the > correct time on their time-of-day numbers? Well ... if the service is offered free, and they are not under obligation to offer it, I suggest that you just don't bother calling... I might feel a bit differently if it's not offered free, or if they are under obligation to offer it. A more serious issue is if they time-of-day dependent charges are based on a significantly inaccurate clock ... Personally, I always wait a few minutes after such a threshold, just in case. Louis ------------------------------ Date: 22 Apr 00 20:40:56 PDT From: Herb Sutherland Subject: Caller ID - Name Display Hi guys! I have a question I have been wanting to ask for a long time. I have checked all the Telecom Digest Archives and all the links and can't find the answer. In fact, most of the information on Caller ID seems a little dated! Anyway, here's my question: I understand when I receive the name and number it is because they are not being blocked and the caller wants them displayed. When I receive 'private' for the name and 'private' for the number it means the caller has blocked their information from being d I receive 'out of area' for the name and 'out of area' for the number it is because the carrier is not set up to send the information. This seems to happen when receiving calls from large companies. In fact, if I call home from my place of employment this is what is displayed. Now sometimes I receive 'out of area' for the name even when the number is being displayed. I understand why this happens in some cases. For instance, when I call from my cell phone and choose to display the number by pressing *82, this is what is displayed. This is understandable because I use a cellular reseller which gets blocks of numbers from the actual provider. Therefore the actual provider does not know my name so they cannot display it. Also, prior to the last week of November 1999, at my GTE location, if someone called from a GTE phone the name would be displayed but if someone called from Pac Bell, even though the number was displayed, the name would say out of area. As of the last week in November, the name has been displayed. Do you suppose something was upgraded in my central office or did Pac Bell start doing something different? On the other hand, from the beginning, when we first got caller id with name a couple of years ago, at the Pac Bell location, the name was being displayed whether the caller was in the Pac Bell area or the GTE area. So, it was not a mutual thing Pac Bell could receive the name from both companies, but GTE could only receive the name if the caller was in a GTE area (even if completely across the country!) So does anybody know what was going on with that? Not only that, but recently (last week) I was at our PacBell location and received a call from my wife. I noticed that our number was displayed but for name it said out of area. Now has Pac Bell stopped displaying names coming from GTE? Hold on, just two more questions: sometimes I get the number displayed but the name says 'private.' Is that a mistake or what? I get that from several of my callers regularly. And for my last question, how can some companies get away with sending a bogus number out on caller id? I understand if they are sending out one of their trunk lines which never gets answered. Our company used to do that. You could call the number and it would just ring and ring. But sometimes I get calls and when I try to call the number back I get a disconnect recording. And one time I received a call and the number displayed was 123-456-7890! If anyone can answer some of these questions I would really appreciate it, or point me to links on CID which might have this information. Thanks much! Sincerely, Herb Sutherland ------------------------------ From: Christopher Sutton Subject: Telephone Systems Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:57:23 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Anyone know where cheap systems ready to be reconditioned can be found on the net or elsewhere? If so please send me an e-mail. Thanks for your help. Cheers, Chris ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #81 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Sun Apr 23 17:26:13 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA26915; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:26:13 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004232126.RAA26915@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #82 TELECOM Digest Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:26:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 82 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died (Monty Solomon) Ring of Thieves Suspected in Cable Box Thefts (Michael A. Desmon) Probe of Hacker Nets a Second Suspect: His Father (Monty Solomon) UK "Big Number" Change (Arthur Ross) Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style (Jeffrey William McKeough) Re: Caller ID - Name Display (Jeremy Greene) Re: Caller ID - Name Display (None) Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? 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All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:23:50 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died http://www.jsonline.com/news/obits/apr00/KatzPhillipW041900.asp Katz, Phillip W. Publication Date: April 19, 2000 Age 37. Passed away unexpectedly on Fri., April 14, 2000. Beloved son of Hildegard and beloved brother of Cynthia. Also survived by other relatives and friends. Phil was a graduate of UWM Computer Science Engineering Program. He was the author of the PKZIP/PKUNZIP software and owner of PKWARE Inc. Co. Private services have been held. Memorials to the charity of your choice would be appreciated. ZWASKA FUNERAL HOME 354-5330 Serving the Family ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:10:40 -0400 From: Michael A. Desmon Reply-To: mdesmon@us-one.net Organization: US One Communications Subject: Ring of Thieves Suspected in Cable Box Thefts Published Sunday, April 23, 2000, in the Miami Herald BY CHARLES SAVAGE csavage@herald.com A ring of thieves is ripping hundreds of cable devices -- which control telephone, television and Internet signals -- from street corners across South Florida and smuggling them to Latin America, local police investigators say. With each theft of fiberoptic cable amplifier boxes, thousands of people can lose all communications service for hours until technicians can install a replacement. And as company losses mount, the costs will be passed on to customers in higher fees. The $2,500 laptop-size instruments, locked in green, suitcase-size boxes on roadway swales, are necessary to convert fiberoptic light into telephone conversations, TV shows and Web pages. ``It's a big problem for cable companies, for customers, for everybody,'' said Ted Iturrioz, regional security director for AT&T Broadband. ``Our customers are suffering extended outages. The minimum number of people affected is 500, the maximum would be in the thousands, depending on what location is hit.'' Dozens of the devices started disappearing in West Kendall last summer. In October, the thieves moved north to the Hialeah area. Last month, the ring's apparent zone of operations moved to Coral Gables, mostly north of Bird Road. The crimes usually occur between midnight and 6 a.m. FEW CLUES ``Just since March, we've lost 11 amplifiers,'' said Coral Gables Police Detective Walter Money. ``I don't have much to go on, if anything. We suspect they're being sold overseas.'' If experience in other parts of the county holds true, the Gables can expect to lose a lot more in the weeks ahead. MediaOne has lost as many as 30 devices in Coral Gables the last eight weeks, including four in the early morning hours of April 13 alone. It lost more than 30 from Hialeah in October, said Mike DiVito, manager of the audit and security division for Southeast Florida. ``We've got thousands of locations out there, so we can't really do surveillance,'' DiVito said. ``Like if you wanted to put a LoJack on one, how would you fathom which one to put it on? We're hoping for a break; that is what we need. Just yesterday in West Miami on Southwest Ninth Street, we had two locations hit.'' AT&T Broadband in West Kendall has lost 91 amplifiers in the past year, Iturrioz said. And Adelphia, which serves Country Walk and West Kendall, has lost more than 250 since March 1999, said Mert Jankowski, audit supervisor with Adelphia. REACHING NORTH ``I know for fact that is happening as far away as Time Warner's system up in Orlando, which has been tremendously affected,'' Iturrioz said. ``My system in Broward has also been hit.'' Although the crime wave's tentacles stretch to the north, police and cable security experts think the black market for the stolen amplifiers lies to the south. We are almost certain that they are going to the Dominican Republic and Central and South America,'' Iturrioz said. ``There is a heavy construction of cable plants down there -- cable booming in that part of the world.'' Iturrioz said the cable companies probably don't know they're buying stolen parts because the amplifiers might pass through four or five brokers before reaching the final owner. ``There's no way of tracing it,'' he said. Detectives think a similar rash of thefts in 1995 might offer insight into what is happening now. That case was cracked with the arrest of a suspect in 1996, who told West Kendall police that a fence was paying him and others $30 for every stolen amplifier. The fence would take the devices, clean them up to make them look new and sell them to a broker for $200. The broker was shipping them south and reselling them for $500. After that ring was broken up, no amplifier was stolen in the county for three years. Last summer, they started disappearing again. GLOBAL SHORTAGE In the meantime, a revolution in fiberoptic communications technology has more than quintupled the value of the latest generation of the devices. The recurrence of the thefts might also have something to do with a global shortage of the amplifiers, manufactured by Scientific Atlanta, driven by an unprecedented surge in demand. Across the United States, nearly every cable company is scrambling to upgrade its systems in order to provide new broadband Internet service. At the same time, many Latin American companies, boosted by the globalization of technology in the 1990s, are now creating new cable networks in regions that have never had the service before. ``These are all going south,'' said Miami-Dade Police Detective Jose Estarellas. ``I know there's a market for them in South America and in the Dominican Republic. They need them because they're so far behind in telecommunications services.'' Estarellas heads the case in the Miami-Dade County's Hammocks District in West Dade, which has lost more than 50 amplifiers since Jan. 1, but almost none since they began disappearing in Coral Gables in recent weeks. SIMPLE THEFT The boxes are locked in green suitcase-size plastic boxes every few blocks on street corners. A simple pair of bolt cutters can remove the amplifier in seconds. But many of the empty boxes are being found without damage, leading investigators to suspect that a former employee or contractor in possession of a special key may be involved. In October, MediaOne posted a $10,000 internal company reward and started running public service commercials asking for help in cracking the case. That seemed to scare the thieves into laying low for a while. ``We were quiet for many weeks -- it basically stopped completely into November,'' DiVito said. But with the return of the thieves this spring, investigators are eager to make an arrest. MediaOne has set up a hot line asking for any information about the culprits at 305-456-4204. Estarellas is asking for tips to West Kendall thefts -- maybe an auto tag number -- to be sent to him at 305-383-6921. And Money wants to be called about Coral Gables thefts at 305-460-5484. ``Right now we just need somebody to give us some information,'' Money said. ``We've done what we can at the station, as far as noting the location of the boxes and telling patrol officers to be aware of suspicious cars that may be parked nearby. We just really need a resident who may see something to let us now. They may not think it's anything worth calling us about, but it may be something we can use. Really.'' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:20:24 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Probe of Hacker Nets a Second Suspect: His Father http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53181-2000Apr20.html By Steven Pearlstein and David A. Vise Washington Post Staff Writers Friday, April 21, 2000; Page A01 ILE-BIZARD, Quebec -- There may be more to the computer moniker "Mafiaboy" than first believed. Montreal police said today that they moved in on the 15-year-old hacker last weekend after learning from wiretaps that his father had taken out a contract to harm or frighten a business associate and that the attack was imminent. They had wiretapped the boy's house shortly after U.S. and Canadian investigators identified that someone who lived there had launched a disabling computer attack that had shut down CNN's Web site and possibly other big sites in February. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 07:38:27 -0700 From: Arthur Ross Subject: UK "Big Number" change Pat - Following is from The Guardian (UK Newspaper) today. from the old UK numbers in my DB it looks as though they went from a three digit city code + 7 digit local number plan to something that adds up to a total of 11. I'm sure that some of your readers can fill us in on exactly what this is: Phone chaos for one in three Sarah Ryle Sunday April 23, 2000 The Observer The national telephone network was thrown into chaos this weekend as one in three callers failed to use the right new number, publicists behind the million The Big Number campaign admitted. The campaign cannot be blamed for the confusion, however, according to an expert in the human ability to cope with number combinations. 'Our brains are not designed to remember big sequences of numbers,' said Professor Mike Hall from the University of Exeter. 'We have only had to deal with big sequences for the last 5,000 years and our brains have not had time to evolve yet.' The 11-digit sequences are so unwieldy that telephones should be redesigned to include electronic address books, he added. Early analysis showed that callers using the new London numbers - representing 80 per cent of the total changeover - had either forgotten about the new system or were misdialling new codes. 'We are keeping a watching brief,' said a campaign manager, Sarah Turnbull. 'Those figures are in line with our expectations for the peak period on a Saturday and we are predicting those figures will decline.' By breakfast, 10,000 people had called the helpline to find out their new number, The Big Number said. Telephone companies admit most customers do not know their own new numbers, let alone code changes elsewhere. Five cities and Northern Ireland are directly affected. Critics of the numbers overhaul - the seventh national change since telephones were introduced in 1879 and the third revamp for London in a decade - included the Federation of Small Businesses which estimates the overhaul will cost industry about =A32 billion to introduce. People in London, Portsmouth, Southampton, Coventry, Cardiff and Northern Ireland lost their old numbers yesterday. People dialling wrongly hear a recording reminding them of the right number. There is no charge for those calls. Demand for new lines is not the sole reason for today's number change - the huge increase in Internet connections is also a factor. The explosion in mobile communications has prompted the change in more than 24 million mobile phone, pager and premium rate numbers. France has undergone alterations to its system as well as Germany, which is already facing 13, 14 or 15 digit dialling. America's system has also been changed as major cities reach 'number capacity'. =A9 Copyright Guardian Media Group plc. 2000 Explanation of the UK numbering plan changes ("Big Number") can be yfound at: http://www.numberchange.org They have done something interesting, in that the first two digits that you dial now tell you what kind of call it is: Nonzero first digit - Local 00 - International 01 - Old area codes 02 - New area codes 03 - Reserved for area code expansion 04, 05, 06 - Reserved 07 - Mobiles, pagers, "personal" numbers 08 - Freephone & special rate services 09 - Premium rate services ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Alleged Time of Day, GTE Style Organization: The Committee for the Advancement of the Amusement of Ned From: jwm@spdcc.com (Jeffrey William McKeough) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:02:41 GMT In article , Louis Raphael wrote: > I might feel a bit differently if it's not offered free, or if they are > under obligation to offer it. Let's forget that telco business in this market could only stand to gain from an overall customer perception of high quality and accuracy. I'm wondering why there's so much resistance to the idea that if someone chooses to do something, they should do it well. Jeffrey William McKeough I'm gonna tell you a story I'm gonna tell you about my town jwm@spdcc.com I'm gonna tell you a big bad story, baby (or spdcc.net if that bounces) Aww, it's all about my town ------------------------------ From: Jeremy Greene Subject: Re: Caller ID - Name Display Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 02:03:33 -0400 Herb Sutherland wrote in message news:telecom20.81.7@telecom-digest.org: > Hi guys! I have a question I have been wanting to ask for a long > time. I have checked all the TELECOM Digest Archives and all the > links and can't find the answer. In fact, most of the information on > Caller ID seems a little dated! Anyway, here's my question: I > understand when I receive the name and number it is because they are > not being blocked and the caller wants them displayed. When I receive > 'private' for the name and 'private' for the number it means the > caller has blocked their information from being d I receive 'out of > area' for the name and 'out of area' for the number it is because the > carrier is not set up to send the information. "Out of Area" and "Unavailable" are the same - it means no information was received. > This seems to happen > when receiving calls from large companies. In fact, if I call home > from my place of employment this is what is displayed. Now sometimes > I receive 'out of area' for the name even when the number is > being displayed. I understand why this happens in some cases. For > instance, when I call from my cell phone and choose to display the > number by pressing *82, this is what is displayed. This is > understandable because I use a cellular reseller which gets blocks of > numbers from the actual provider. Therefore the actual provider does > not know my name so they cannot display it. Also, some cellular providers simply do not provide the name at all. > Also, prior to the last > week of November 1999, at my GTE location, if someone called from a > GTE phone the name would be displayed but if someone called from Pac > Bell, even though the number was displayed, the name would say out > of area. As of the last week in November, the name has been > displayed. Do you suppose something was upgraded in my central office > or did Pac Bell start doing something different? When your GTE phone rings, the terminating central office (GTE) receives the calling number. It then does a database lookup, using the SS7 network, into PacBell's line database to find the matching name. It looks like, prior to November, GTE did not have an arrangement with PacBell to use their line database. > Hold on, just two more questions: sometimes I get the number > displayed but the name says 'private.' Is that a mistake or > what? I get that from several of my callers regularly. I don't know how that works, but I wish all phone companies would let you do it. And similarly, I guess some people might want to have the name displayed but the number private. > And for my > last question, how can some companies get away with sending a bogus > number out on caller id? I understand if they are sending out one of > their trunk lines which never gets answered. Our company used to do > that. You could call the number and it would just ring and ring. But > sometimes I get calls and when I try to call the number back I get a > disconnect recording. And one time I received a call and the number > displayed was 123-456-7890! They can get away with it because: 1) Their local phone company doesn't screen out bogus outgoing caller ID, and 2) The FCC doesn't seem to care about people who ignore their rules. I don't know if there are any rules that state that the number you send out must actually be a dialable number. But sending 123-456-7890 is definitely wrong. ------------------------------ From: "n" Subject: Re: Caller ID - Name Display Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:29:07 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com As far as Caller Id from large companies they can send out whatever Caller ID digits they program to send out over the network. Generally they will send out either the DID number associated with the extension in the phone system or the main number for the business. As far as them sending out bogus Caller ID info if you know who it is that is calling you report them to the local Telco. The Telco considers anyone sending out false ID info as a nuisance to the Network and will immediately diconnect all service to that business (with NO notice). Most likely what is happening is the Company bought a group of DID numbers from the Telco; assigned them to individuals in the company that will be receiving a large amount of calls from the outside network. Then just made up extension numbers for the rest of the individuals on the system. When they make a call from one of the made up extensions to the outside world they should be sending the main phone number for the business as CAller ID, but they are instead just sending the prefix for the DID numbers and the 4 digit extension number. Whoever maintains the company's system made a large mistake when programming up the numbers that are sent out as CallerID over the network. I'll let one of the others on here answer your other questions, I only know mainly about PBX's. ------------------------------ From: herb@herbstein.com (Herb Stein) Subject: Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:27:26 GMT Here in Missouri, Southwestern Bell has recently offered what they call "Privacy Manager." If an incoming has no CLID, the caller gets a recording stating the we don't accept unidentified calls. That includes anonymous as well as unavailable calls. They can go to voice mail, record their name in the hopes I really DO want to talk to them or hang up. It's been a couple weeks since I've talked to a siding salesman or a duct cleaner. In article , Ed Ellers wrote: > Phil Bergstresser wrote: >> It's too bad not everyone has been required to implement caller ID >> delivery. Most of the telephone solicitors have learned that suppression >> doesn't work for the reasons given above, so they buy a service that doesn't >> have it implemented. Shouldn't be! > True, but one problem is that if a telemarketer has a direct T1 or > similar line to a long-distance carrier from his "boiler room" -- > which would often be cheaper than running POTS lines to each phone if > the operation is big enough -- there would be no phone number to > deliver because the calls don't originate from a PSTN line. The only > way to fix that would be an FCC rule requiring such customers to > specify a phone number to be sent in the Caller ID. (If a criminal > investigation were involved in which a call had to be traced, yes, the > long-distance carrier could certainly tell where the call came from. > But this is a different issue.) >> Most of the time you can ignore out of area calls these days, but some >> cellular phone providers and small regional telcos don't provide the >> ID, and you can miss a call from a relative on the road using a cell >> phone trying to call for help, so that doesn't work reliably. >> So rejection of out-of-area calls is not a likely or desirable option. >> Phil Bergstresser >> Marietta Georgia wrote in message ... >>> I *think* I saw this question answered here once before but I'm not >>> sure. >>> Does anyone know what calls that show up as Out-Of-Area 000-000-0000 >>> are? >>> This number comes through on a system that has BellSouth's Privacy >>> Director which is supposed to reject out-of-area calls. Herb Stein The Herb Stein Group www.herbstein.com herb@herbstein.com 314 215-3584 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:57:58 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Feds Try Odd Anti-Porn Approach by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. Apr. 22, 2000 PDT WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Department of Justice is quietly recruiting critics of filtering software to help it defend a controversial anti-pornography law in court. Government attorneys are asking librarians and academics who have published criticisms of the controversial filtering products to testify in an expected trial over the Child Online Protection Act. http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,35800,00.html ------------------------------ From: Clinton Gallagher Subject: Re: Online Source for Phone Hub? Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 05:11:21 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Try http://www.processor.com who publishes a newspaper with all kinds of new, used and old equipment. <%= Clinton Gallagher http://home.att.net/~csgallagher/ Count This! T-Shirt - U.S. Census 2000 Rights Abuse http://www.metromilwaukee.com/ ------------------------------ From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell Young, Esq.) Subject: Re: Dialpad.com Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 08:04:11 GMT Organization: http://www.parentinglaw.com | http://www.intuitiveparenting.org In article , sc1@roamer1.org wrote: > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:11:29 GMT, baldone@nothing.com (The bald one) > wrote: >> I just went to the site www.dialpad.com and placed a quick call. It's >> working for me. For a few days it suddenly stopped working. Then I >> realized I had installed firewall protection for my system. Dialpad >> does not work from behind a firewall. Once I turned off the firewall I >> was able to make all the calls I wanted. > You can fix this and leave the firewall in place; you need to open up > TCP port 51210 and UDP ports 51200 and 51201. > On my IP-masquerading/firewall Linux box running RedHat 6.1, I use the > following rules to open the ports, and auto-forward the ports to my > Windows box on the "private" side of the firewall box. (If you have > more than one Windows box from which you wish to use Dialpad, you need > to do some more complicated setup which I believe is linked from the > dialpad site.) # fwd ports 51200,51201,51210 (dialpad) to toccoa # (192.168.34.2 = toccoa, my windows box) # ipchains opens ports, ipmasqadm forwards ports Does anybody know how to do this using dialpad and WinGate? I followed the directions in the dialpad FAQ (specifically for WinGate), however I am still having the problem that the people that I call can hear me, but I can't hear them. Thanks! Hopefully, Anne William - 4/11/98 Jessica - 8/28/78 Resources on intuitive parenting, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, and more: http://www.intuitiveparenting.org I am: Mom, Attorney, Professor, Advocate for Fathers, Lactation Advisor (in training) http://www.parentinglaw.com ------------------------------ From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) Subject: Re: Long Lines Bells Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:48:14 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC In article , A.E. Siegman wrote: > In article , kamlet@infinet.com > wrote: >> The long-time executive VP of Bell Labs, Julius Molnar, issued >> proclamations that the name was to be called Bell Telephone >> Laboratories, Incorporated in all correspondence and usage, and >> never ever to be abbreviated to, say, Bell Labs. > Bell Labs seems to have been retentive about names. > When the first laser was successfully operated (**not** at Bell Labs, > but at Hughes Research Labs Malibu), Bell Labs had a share, in some > combination with Townes at Columbia, in patent rights on the maser > (microwave predecessor of the laser). > For a considerable period of time, many if not all the technical journal > articles coming from Bell Labs seemed to use the term "optical maser" > and not laser, and I suspect this was not accidental. Yep. Some of the Bell Labs early laser folks (who among other things had done the computer simulations to show that a cavity wave between two flat plates could in fact be self-sustaining) have written about how they did their best to influence the nomenclature. Today they'd all have one another sued six ways from Sunday. Paul ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #82 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Mon Apr 24 22:03:33 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA12838; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:03:33 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004250203.WAA12838@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #83 TELECOM Digest Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:03:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 83 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Telecom Update (Canada) #230, April 24, 2000 (John Riddell) Re: UK "Big Number" Change (Richard D.G. 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The four largest cablecos (Cogeco, Rogers, Shaw, and Videotron) must also create separate Customer Service Groups to work with competitors. The cablecos have until May 29 to negotiate and file the agreements. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/Orders/2000/O2000-317.htm VIDEOTRON INJUNCTION EXTENDED TO JUNE: The Quebec Superior Court has extended its injunction barring the majority owners of Videotron from voting in favor of Rogers Communications' takeover bid. A final hearing will begin in June. (See Telecom Update #227) ** Rogers has extended its $5.6-Billion offer. NORTEL TO BUY ARCHITEL SYSTEMS: Nortel Networks is buying Architel Systems, a Toronto-based telecom software provider, for US$395 Million. Architel, with 1999 revenues of C$70 Million, makes products that automate the provisioning of DSL service. ** Nortel has announced funding of US$16.5 Million in 2000 for global technology education programs. 360NETWORKS IPO A SUCCESS: Vancouver-based 360networks stock jumped from $21 to $28 on its first day of trading, April 20. The company raised a total of $2.4 Billion from the IPO and a bank loan arranged the same week. TEENAGER CHARGED WITH DDOS ATTACKS: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Canada's equivilent of FBI) has charged a Montreal 15-year-old who used the handle "Mafiaboy" with involvement in February's Distributed Denial of Service attacks on major Web sites. UNIVERSAL PAYPHONE BARRED: The Competition Bureau has won its case against Universal Payphone Systems and its President, George Katsoulakis. Both have been barred from marketing their payphone business in Canada for 10 years for deceptive marketing. (See Telecom Update #202. #213, #214 and Telemanagement #172, February 2000) ** Universal Payphone also faces various lawsuits by investors and a trademark infringement suit filed by Bell Canada. OTTAWA CONSIDERS COMPETITION ACT CHANGES: The Competition Bureau has issued a discussion paper on proposed amendments to the Competition Act and the Competition Tribunal Act, and has hired the Public Policy Forum to run cross-country consultations with stakeholders. http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/ct01740e.html INTRIGNA APPROVED AS CLEC: Bell Intrigna, which is owned by Bell Canada and Manitoba Tel, has received CRTC approval to operate as a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier in Alberta and BC. The company says it will begin migrating its local resale customers in Calgary and Edmonton to its own network now, and in Vancouver in July. CRTC SEEKS COMMENT ON REBANDING DISPUTE: The CRTC has given interested parties until April 27 to comment on competitors' complaints that the telcos' recent rebanding filings are incomplete and do not comply with previous rulings. LUCENT TO OUTSOURCE MORE MANUFACTURING: Lucent says it is moving to contract out a large part of its manufacturing operations. Lucent will retain "high-end" semiconductor and fiber optic plants. ** Lucent reports profits for the quarter ended March 31 of US$754 Million, 41% above last year. Revenue rose 17% to $10.3 Billion. ROGERS WIRELESS ADDS 50,000 CUSTOMERS: Rogers AT&T Wireless added a net 50,000 cellphone customers in the first quarter, compared to a 62,600 increase last year. Monthly disconnects rose to 2.27%. Revenue was $349 Million, unchanged from the previous quarter and up 18% from last year. The net loss was $10.6 Million. (See Telecom Update #205) ** Rogers Communications earned $19.3 Million (down from $47 Million) on revenue of $808 Million. 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The information and data included has been obtained from sources which we believe to be reliable, but Angus TeleManagement makes no warranties or representations whatsoever regarding accuracy, completeness, or adequacy. Opinions expressed are based on interpretation of available information, and are subject to change. If expert advice on the subject matter is required, the services of a competent professional should be obtained. ============================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:46 +0100 From: Richard@office.mandarin.com (Richard D G Cox) Subject: Re: UK "Big Number" Change Arthur Ross said: > it looks as though they went from a three digit city code + 7 digit > local number plan to something that adds up to a total of 11. I'm sure > that some of your readers can fill us in on exactly what this is: We can try! The second major UK renumbering happened on Saturday morning (0100 local) The first major renumbering in 1995 ("Phoneyday") had, as expected, failed to create the quantity of new local numbers that would be needed. Six geographic areas - Cardiff, Coventry, London, Portsmouth, Southampton and the whole of Northern Ireland - changed from six or seven digit local numbers to eight digits; the area ("city") code being shortened to retain a total length of eleven digits (ten, with the long distance prefix "0"). This number length is now becoming standard in the UK but there are still a few areas where the total number length is one digit less. London has now, as a result of the change, reverted from a split area (0171/0181) to a single (020) area with full eight (NOT eleven) digit dialling across inner and outer London. The approach was novel and quite effective: a lengthy period of permissive dialling for eleven-digit dialled calls started last summer and continues until the coming autumn, while a much shorter period of permissive LOCAL dialling ended on Saturday morning. In London, hardly any call trapping was possible in the old scheme, as it was quite full: and therefore the permissive dialling arrangements required timeouts. For this reason callers from outside each local area do NOT experience any changes - they are still in the permissive period and can dial the old number successfully, although we'd prefer that they didn't do that! The publicity, however, was disappointing. Reports suggest that of those people affected, about 6.5% understood the changes correctly. Many had grasped that there was to be a change,but thought that it was a simple CODE change - whereas there was a FORMAT change as well. So many signs and advertisement had started to show numbers as (0207) xxx xxxx which is completely wrong. It should be (020) 7xxx xxxx. The publicity campaign managers did not respond to these mistakes with suitable clarification, which would have been more helpful. Recorded announcements were provided for those calls that failed because the local permissive period had ended: but reports on Saturday suggested that the routes to the announcement machines were congesting and general failure announcements - "the network is busy, try later" played instead. Tuesday - the first business day after the changes - may be interesting! Other changes are happening but the numbers are still in "permissive": Mobile and pager numbers are changing to full eleven digit numbers which will all begin with 07; special-rate numbers are changing to 08x (if the call charge is either free or below an artificial "national" rate) or 090/091 if the call charge is above that artificial "national" rate. > The campaign cannot be blamed for the confusion, however, according > to an expert in the human ability to cope with number combinations. This "expert" obviously hasn't talked to anyone from Australia, France, Tokyo, Hong Kong or Denmark, which have all been using eight-digit local numbers for quite some time now! > Critics of the numbers overhaul - the seventh national change since > telephones were introduced in 1879 and the third revamp for London Seventh? National? I don't think so ... Since Long-Distance dialling was introduced here in the late 1950's, there has only been ONE national change in the UK. There have been a lot of local changes, particularly for London, but even this change was only, shall we say "semi-national"! > They have done something interesting, in that the first two digits that > you dial now tell you what kind of call it is: In fact the first three digits are a better key: the idea is that users are more likely to remember fewer, shorter codes than the 800-odd area and service codes that existed in the old scheme. > Nonzero first digit - Local NO!!!! That's one thing both the regulator and the "publicity" campaign have failed to make clear. Non-zero first digit means "in same code area" and is NOT necessarily charged as local. Our previous system did give a form of toll-alerting (anything starting with non-zero digit was certain to be charged at local-rate) but for people in Southampton and Portsmouth that is no longer the case: Northern Ireland follows suit later this year. Here's the rest of the scheme (from the callers' viewpoint): 1 Service codes (some chargeable) and network selection (dial-around). 2-9 Numbers in the caller's local dialling area - not always local rate. 00 International (voice/64k data - previously this was 000 for 64k data) 01 People whose numbers haven't changed recently ... 020 London (Inner and Outer) 023 South of England (currently Portsmouth and Southampton) 024 West Midlands (currently Coventry) 028 Northern Ireland 029 Wales (currently only Cardiff and surrounding area) 070 Personal numbers (in most cases, high cost, "caller-pays") 076 Pager numbers (in some cases, high cost, "caller-pays") 077-079 Mobile numbers (in all cases, high cost, "caller-pays") 080 Free (except 0802, mobile, which is being withdrawn) 082 Special rate numbers: School Internet services 084 Special rate numbers: Local rate or below 087 Special rate numbers: Local rate or below 090 Premium rate (pay-per-call) numbers Other prefixes are still in use for numbers (mostly mobile) that are in the process of changing. They will have been phased out by next year. (For the plan as seen from outside the UK, omit prefixes, 1,2-9,00, and remove the first digit "0" from all the prefixes in my list that remain). Richard D G Cox PO Box 111, PENARTH, UK; Telephone +44 29 2031 1131; Fax +44 29 2031 1131 To reply by private email, simply take "office" out of the e-mail address ------------------------------ From: gldyer-nospam@geocities.com (Geoff Dyer) Subject: Re: UK "Big Number" Change Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:07:53 GMT On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 07:38:27 -0700, Arthur Ross wrote: > Following is from The Guardian (UK Newspaper) today. > from the old UK numbers in my DB it looks as though they went from a > three digit city code + 7 digit local number plan to something that > adds up to a total of 11. I'm sure that some of your readers can fill > us in on exactly what this is: The new numbers are nearly all the same total length, but because the leading zero is not dialled from outside the UK, both old and new are different lengths dialled nationally as opposed to internationally. (This is the case for nearly everywhere outside NANPA.) Old London numbers had four-digit area code (when dialled from within UK) plus seven-digit "local" number. Some other areas to have changed may have had a different breakdown, eg 5D+6D. New numbers have three-digit area code (when dialled from within UK) plus eight-digit "local" number. > The campaign cannot be blamed for the confusion, however, according to > an expert in the human ability to cope with number combinations. > 'Our brains are not designed to remember big sequences of numbers,' > said Professor Mike Hall from the University of Exeter. 'We have only > had to deal with big sequences for the last 5,000 years and our brains > have not had time to evolve yet.' > The 11-digit sequences are so unwieldy that telephones should be > redesigned to include electronic address books, he added. Poorly stated, as the total lengths have not changed. The problem is that 8-digit local numbers are harder to remember than the old 7-digit (or shorter) ones were, even though the 8D London numbers in particular are *very* easily derived from the 7D. We've had similar complaints in Australia; our total lengths *did* increase, but the main problem was the 8D local length. It's definitely harder to remember, and even catches *me* out sometimes. (Good grief, and I used to fire off "information bug reports" to both the carrier and the regulator during the changes!) Geoff (to e-mail me, remove any instances of "-nospam" from my address) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 05:32:22 -0400 From: jbeckett Subject: Re: Caller ID - Name Display > Jeremy Greene intoned in part: > They can get away with it because: 1) Their local phone company doesn't > screen out bogus outgoing caller ID, > Moreover chipped in among other things, the statement: > As far as Caller Id from large companies they can send out whatever > Caller ID digits they program to send out over the network. Generally > they will send out either the DID number associated with the extension > in the phone system or the main number for the business. I run one of those "big-company PBX's" with about 1200 extensions and I would be delighted to find out the incantation required to do this through our phone company (which uses Nortel DMS 100). I get lots of complaints from people who received calls from our outgoing trunks, and are frustrated that the Caller ID they paid good money for doesn't work for calls from our site. In the ideal case I'd be able to control the Caller ID number sent, and I would definitely map it to the person who placed the outgoing call. Our rural telco doesn't think it can be done. The best they can offer is mapping Caller ID on our outgoing trunks to our main number. But they have techs who would make it work if I knew what Nortel calls this feature and what sort of trunking system to use. And a note to all the telemarketer-killers: Yes, we have telemarketers, and yes, I would _very_ much like to have Caller ID work for their calls as well. We pay our callers good money, and there is no sense starting conversations off with arguments about no Caller ID. John Beckett, Assoc. Dir. Info Systems, Southern Adventist University jbeckett@southern.edu ------------------------------ From: abuse@cabal.org.uk (Peter Corlett) Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan Date: 22 Apr 2000 13:40:09 GMT Organization: None Linc Madison wrote: [...] > More to the point, if Canada were assigned its own country code, it would > probably NOT be 1X or even 1XX -- it would probably be something like 295. > The only way that Canada could get a 1X or 1XX code would be to force the > rest of the NANP to do the same, absent a MAJOR change in ITU rules. I suspect that +10 or +11 could be used -- I don't believe there are any numbers in the NANP starting 0 or 1. I'm fairly confident codes 0010 and 0011 don't do anything from Europe[0]. Would 01110 and 01111 cause any sort of conflict from other services on offer by US telcos? I suspect that what might cause more of a problem is what appears to be affecting London at present. A previous code split London into two area codes, 0171 and 0181 and seven digit local numbers. London has now been put back into one area code, 020 with eight digit local numbers made of your old local number with 7 or 8 put in front respectively. Parallel running consists of full national dialing for quite a long time around the changeover period, and there's a flash change in a couple of days' time for local numbers. Previous changes like this have parallel run the local numbers, but there's no number space available for this. (Suits me, I least-cost route my calls, and I don't have the option of omitting the area code.) There's going to be some surprised people next week next week, since the message of eight digits doesn't seem to have got through. Thus, many people seem to have decided that 0171 becomes 0207 and 0181 becomes 0208, retaining the seven digit numbering. In a few days, they're in for a surprise, since there's a flash change for local dialling. It would seem that regrouping digits, whilst technically possible, doesn't seem to get on too well with people. It remains to see whether the result of the London flash change is total chaos, or just a few embarrassed signwriters. Would a Canada with +10 find they have people claiming their "area code" is +1 0xx? [0] Then again, +44080 is supposed to be invalid, but it was diallable from BT lines some while back. It supervised and seemed to be chargable about 50p/min, it ended up on the bill, amusingly in the "International" section with destination "United Kingdom". (The UK is definitely not an international call from the UK.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:54:36 -0700 From: Paul Gloger Subject: Re: Ring of Thieves Suspected in Cable Box Thefts > Published Sunday, April 23, 2000, in the Miami Herald > BY CHARLES SAVAGE > csavage@herald.com > A ring of thieves is ripping hundreds of cable devices -- which > control telephone, television and Internet signals -- from street > corners across South Florida and smuggling them to Latin America, > local police investigators say. .... > The $2,500 laptop-size instruments, locked in green, suitcase-size > boxes on roadway swales, are necessary to convert fiberoptic light > into telephone conversations, TV shows and Web pages. .... I am truly sorry that these boxes are being stolen. However, if *I* were to take, say, $2,500 laptop computers and strap them in huge numbers at regular intervals in public places, I would be widely and rightly regarded as hopelessly naive and stupid if I expected for a moment that they would not likewise soon be stolen in large numbers. The management of the telecommunications companies involved here should likewise be regarded as hopelessly naive and stupid -- or just plain short-sighted and irresponsible. Paul Gloger ------------------------------ From: Mickey Ferguson Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:12:23 -0700 Bilgates Remailer wrote in message ... > I'm working on an anti-telemarketing device of my own, one that acts > like an auto-attendant in that it requires the caller to enter a > passcode before ringing the handset. For an outgoing call the box > senses handset offhook and directly connects handset to outside > line. It does not depend on CallerID or any special services by the > telco. It will need a transformer plugged in to a wall outlet. It'd be > nice if I could get the purchase price down to US$50. Maybe I'm a little sensitive because I work in the public safety industry (software developer for 911 systems), but there's no way in the world I would ever put one of these devices on my phone line. What happens if there is an emergency and someone needs to get hold of me? If they don't know the passcode, they can't. My privacy is valuable to me, but being able to contact me in an emergency is far more important. If you really hate being interrupted, why not turn off the ringer and let your answering machine answer after one ring. Then have the greeting state that if this is a sales call (or other junk call -0- you figure out the wording), hang up because you don't accept those kinds of calls. Also warn them about the law concerning unsolicited repeat calls. Anyway, only if they stay on the line do you then pick up. This way at least the calls that need to get through really can. Mickey Ferguson Plant Equipment, Inc. www.peinc.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #83 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Tue Apr 25 16:41:05 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA15202; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004252041.QAA15202@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #84 TELECOM Digest Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:41:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 84 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (John David Galt) Online Source for Phone Hub? (Beatlebum) Free Routers (Bob Larribeau) Dialpad Delay, Anything Better? (Steel Cutlass) Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? (Steve Sobol) Re: Caller ID - Name Display (Steve Sobol) Re: Caller ID - Name Display (Lars) Re: AT&T Long Lines (Grover C. McCoury III) Information Technology Professional's Resource Center (Irwin Lazar) Re: Caller ID - Name Display (Ed Ellers) Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died (Heywood Jaiblomi) Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died (J.F. Mezei) Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died (Bruce Wilson) Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died (Steve Sobol) Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Bart Z. Lederman) Reconditioned Cellular Phone Retail? (Norm) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Please request a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com --------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John_David_Galt@acm.org Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:46:17 -0700 Organization: Association for Computing Machinery J.F. Mezei writes: > Is there some logic in determining how long a country code is to be? > (eg: codes beginning with two are three digits, codes with four are > two digits etc etc)? Not in the sense you're talking about. Any sequence of 1-3 digits can be used, so long as no country code begins with another entire country code. (So if 32 is a country code then 321 can't be one.) A few apparent exceptions crop up now and then, such as 3393 for Monaco and 5399 for Guantanamo Bay, but these really boil down to two cases: a small country which uses one area code within a big neighbor's network (Monaco), or a pseudo-country-code which works only from countries that have it programmed into their national network (I believe 5399 only functions from the US). You could also make an exception where the numbers in the shorter code that would match the longer are never used; for example, 10 and 11 (or 10x and 11x) could safely be used today, although the NANP would have to change its prefix from 011 to something else (00?) so that it could call out to country codes beginning with 1. In terms of rationale, I believe the original country codes were chosen to give the shortest codes to the countries with the most telephones, thus minimizing the maximum total number length (originally 12 digits but violated in many places, now 15 digits). That's why China has a two-digit code; when it was assigned they had only 3 or 4 million telephone numbers among their billion people. The ITU has since announced that no more codes shorter than 3 digits will be issued because of crowding; but I dare say they'd make exceptions for countries giving up a 1-digit code in exchange for one or two 2-digit codes. Leonard Erickson writes: > So the proposed "100" for Canada *isn't* a country code. It's just > giving Canada's *area codes* a "00" prefix when dialed from outside > Canada. It would work as a country code. But it seems to me if you're going to do this you might as well break up the NANP. Here's my proposal: Step 1. Change our prefix before out-of-country numbers from 011 to 00 (which is standard in most of the world already). This does not conflict with any existing dialing pattern in the NANP, although a timeout would be required when calling the 00 operator (as it now is when calling the 0 operator). Keep 01 for operator assisted calls; it isn't a problem as long as 01 and 011 don't both exist (so a dialing string beginning with 011 can now be parsed as 01 + a country code beginning with 1). A permissive dialing period is possible here, though not mandatory. Step 2. Move Canada to country code 10 and the US to 11 (both now unused). A permissive dialing period is highly recommended here. During this period the Caribbean stays in country code 1, except that the US territories might choose to remain part of the US system. Step 3. Migrate the Caribbean out into new country codes. At this point country codes 120 through 199 become available, so most of the islands can keep their present dialing sequences if they want. (There is at least one case where two islands' present area codes begin with the same two digits, which would mean one of them will have to change.) The Caribbean places with 2xx codes would probably trade them in also. John David Galt ------------------------------ From: Beatlebum@MailandNews.com (Beatlebum) Subject: Online Source for Phone Hub? Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:59:16 GMT Organization: (C) Writing Revisionist History Since 1967 I need an 8/16 port rack style phone hub. I know these things exist, however, I can't seem to find them in any of the online catalogs. I would be grateful if someone would recommend a supplier and brand name with a specific URL. TIA ------------------------------ From: Bob Larribeau Subject: Free Routers Date: 19 Apr 2000 08:21:25 EDT Organization: Concentric Internet Services I have an Ascend MAX 2000 and Ascend Pipeline 200 T1 routers available to donate to an educational or nonprofit organization. I also have an Ascend MAX 1800 and a few miscellaneous Pipeline ISDN products available. If you are an educational or nonprofit organization that can use this equipment, contact me via email. Bob Larribeau bob@larribeau.com ------------------------------ From: steel_cutlass@my-deja.com Subject: Dialpad Delay, Anything Better? Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:34:12 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Is there a PC to Internet to Long Distance service that has very little delay in its transmissions? Dialpad is really cool. For the price (free), you can't beat it. But, I'm getting tired of the slight delays when I call my friends and family long-distance. It sounds like I am calling everybody over a satellite connection. Sometimes, it sounds like the start of every statement is delayed to the receiver's ear by a half-second or more. Irritating. I have a DSL modem, and like I said, the sound quality is good. But, the delays are buggin' me. Does anybody know of a service (even a pay service) that has a shorter delay? ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Caller ID 000-000-0000?? Date: 24 Apr 2000 03:20:23 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Herb Stein': >Here in Missouri, Southwestern Bell has recently offered what they >call "Privacy Manager." I don't know if SBC offers it all across their territory including in PacBell country, but SBC stole the name and the idea from Ameritech. It's been available here in Ameritechland since before the merger. If SBC doesn't offer it out on the west coast, my guess is that they will soon. > If an incoming has no CLID, the caller gets a > recording stating the we don't accept unidentified calls. That > includes anonymous as well as unavailable calls. > They can go to voice mail, record their name in the hopes I really DO > want to talk to them or hang up. I'll weigh in in favor of Privacy Manager. I use it and I think it's a great service. Works well with Ameritech's voice mail, too. North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Caller ID - Name Display Date: 24 Apr 2000 03:29:47 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'n': > As far as Caller Id from large companies they can send out whatever > Caller ID digits they program to send out over the network. Generally > they will send out either the DID number associated with the extension > in the phone system or the main number for the business. I recently bounced a check to a bank that gave me a Mastercard. The check was in payment of the monthly statement. As I always am in such a case, I was proactive about calling them and letting them know I was replacing the check before they even knew it had bounced. However, last week, on the 18th, the 19th, and the 20th, I got a series of calls - 10 or 11 total over those three days - from 410-529-4112. NPA 410 is Maryland, and one of the bank's customer service reps mentioned to me that she was working in a call center in the Baltimore area when I talked to her about the calls. But try calling 410-529-4112. It's not in service. Can I get the bank in trouble over this? I'm absolutely sure it's the collections department, because when they called - the third or fourth time - they also somehow got onto voice mail ... they'd called *me* and automatically put me on hold. (isn't robodialing also illegal, per the TCPA?) I lived with a friend who had someone from another bank looking for her, and that bank did the same thing. > As far as > them sending out bogus Caller ID info if you know who it is that is > calling you report them to the local Telco. The Telco considers > anyone sending out false ID info as a nuisance to the Network and will > immediately diconnect all service to that business (with NO notice). Bloody lotta good that will do me. My telco is Ameritech. Theirs is either Bell Atlantic or a CLEC. Ameritech can't shut off service to this company. North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: Lars Subject: Re: Caller ID - Name Display Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:12:46 -0600 > load on the DMS you're connected to? Also, what version of what PBX do you > have? I can tell you how to send the proper calling number info. jbeckett wrote in message news:telecom20.83.4@telecom-digest.org... >> Jeremy Greene intoned in part: >> They can get away with it because: 1) Their local phone company doesn't >> screen out bogus outgoing caller ID, >> Moreover chipped in among other things, the statement: >> As far as Caller Id from large companies they can send out whatever >> Caller ID digits they program to send out over the network. Generally >> they will send out either the DID number associated with the extension >> in the phone system or the main number for the business. > I run one of those "big-company PBX's" with about 1200 extensions and > I would be delighted to find out the incantation required to do this > through our phone company (which uses Nortel DMS 100). I get lots of > complaints from people who received calls from our outgoing trunks, > and are frustrated that the Caller ID they paid good money for doesn't > work for calls from our site. In the ideal case I'd be able to > control the Caller ID number sent, and I would definitely map it to > the person who placed the outgoing call. Our rural telco doesn't > think it can be done. The best they can offer is mapping Caller ID on > our outgoing trunks to our main number. But they have techs who would > make it work if I knew what Nortel calls this feature and what sort of > trunking system to use. > And a note to all the telemarketer-killers: Yes, we have > telemarketers, and yes, I would _very_ much like to have Caller ID > work for their calls as well. We pay our callers good money, and > there is no sense starting conversations off with arguments about no > Caller ID. > John Beckett, Assoc. Dir. Info Systems, Southern Adventist University > jbeckett@southern.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:36:30 -0700 From: Grover C. McCoury III Organization: BrightLink Networks, Inc. Subject: Re: AT&T Long Lines I dusted off my copy of the "Bell Labs Bible", Engineering and Operations in the Bell System, and found the following definition: The Long Lines Department of AT&T owns and operates long distance transmission facilities and certain switching systems to provide connections between operating companies and with foreign countries. Long Lines, being an operating organization, is the largest part of AT&T, with about 90% of all AT&T personnel. AT&T was organized as follows: ---------------------------------------------------------------- American Telephone and Telegraph Company ------------------------------------------------- General Depts. | Long Lines Dept ---------------------------------------------------------------- Western Electric Company Bell Operating Companies(24 BOCs) Bell Telephone Laboratories AT&T Company was composed of the General and Long Lines Depts. Western Electric is wholly owned by AT&T. AT&T has a controlling ownership in the 24 BOCs. BTL is 50% owned by Western Electric and 50% owned by AT&T. /********************************** Grover C. McCoury III @ BrightLink Networks, Inc. physical: 212 Gibraltar Drive Sunnyvale, CA 94089 audio: (408)752-9228 electronic: grover@brightlink.com WWW: http://www.brightlink.com **********************************/ ------------------------------ From: ilazar@tbg.com (Irwin Lazar) Subject: Information Technology Professional's Resource Center Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:31:55 GMT Organization: Intermedia Business Internet - Beltsville, MD We've just completed a major re-design of the ITPRC - http://www.itprc.com/ Our site contains hundreds of links to information on a variety of networking technologies such as TCP/IP, SONET, Frame Relay, IP Routing, Network Security, Network Management, Internet Operations and more. We also host the TCP/IP FAQ and provide an active message board system. Please visit us and let us know what you think. ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: Caller ID - Name Display Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:05:45 -0400 Jeremy Greene wrote: "I don't know how that works, but I wish all phone companies would let you do it. And similarly, I guess some people might want to have the name displayed but the number private." I doubt that that's possible, since SS7 doesn't provide for caller name display -- there is only one flag to control ID display, so you can either display both or inhibit both. ------------------------------ From: heywood@gloucester.com (Heywood Jaiblomi) Subject: Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:02:41 GMT Organization: Uncle Heywood's Trousers of Fun Monty Solomon wrote: > Katz, Phillip W. > Age 37. Passed away unexpectedly on Fri., April 14, 2000. I guess he compressed a lot of living into those 37 years. If I had my life to live over, I think I'd like to live over a liquor store. ------------------------------ From: J.F. Mezei Subject: Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:42:43 -0400 Monty Solomon wrote: > Age 37. Passed away unexpectedly on Fri., April 14, 2000. Beloved son of > Hildegard and beloved brother of Cynthia. Also survived by other > relatives and friends. Phil was a graduate of UWM Computer Science > Engineering Program. He was the author of the PKZIP/PKUNZIP software and > owner of PKWARE Inc. It is very interesting how "vitual" communities will also mourn the passing of someone they "knew" from the internet, or worry because a regular poster in a newsgroup has not posted anything in a long while. Our "own" beloved and well admired Pat falls into that group, where, I am sure, many many regular readers of this fine newsgroup were quietly wishing Pat the best of luck and the promptest recovery once it had been announced that he had had medical problems. Often though, the problem is in translating that "virtual respect" into something more concrete since folks don't generally know the real address of a poster so there is no way to convey to his/her/its family the fact that thousands of his friends on the internet are sending their deepest sympathies and share their grief. (And often, one learns the news well after the passing of the person). What is also interesting is that the internet has two cultures. The "legacy" culture of folks who were there before the internet was a consumer good. They know stuff such as FTP, TELNET, GOPHER etc, and know how old Unix is, and how old ethernet is etc. So it is perfectly possible for a person very famous in these internet circles to pass away without much fanfare to the "consumer ... DOM" generation who think that Bill Gates invented the internet and that the chairman of Yahoo is god because Yahoo is the only .COM that makes a profit. The new generation has little clue as to what happened before Microsoft reluctantly accepted to adopt the internet. It will be fascinating to see how historians/educators teach kids 50 years from now about the transformation from industrial to information age. I wonder how many of the true builders will be remembered and how many will wrongly be given titles of builders of the net. Phil Katz has made a great contribution to the IT world by offering a fairly ubiquitous compression format. And once which has lasted a long time already. ------------------------------ From: blw1540@aol.comxxnospam (Bruce Wilson) Date: 24 Apr 2000 03:16:08 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died > Software pioneer dead at 37 > Last Updated: April 22, 2000 at 3:04:12 p.m. > MILWAUKEE (AP) - A man who developed computer file compression > software used around the world has died at age 37. Phillip W. Katz died of complications from chronic alcoholism, according to medical examiner's records. Computer science experts say Katz's program, PKZip, played a major role in making Internet communications faster. "In early days, compression was all done with software because there was no hardware to do this stuff," said computer science professor Leonard Levine at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. "So Katz put together a program called PKZip, the Phil Katz zip program." The compression software made communication between computers faster and less expensive. "His program was instrumental in inexpensive, dependable communication," Levine said. But, he added, "what I felt was most important about it is the fact that you can get it for free and not pay for it." Katz was found dead April 14 in a south side motel room holding a bottle of alcohol, the Milwaukee County medical examiner's report said. Five other empty liquor bottles were also found in the room, according to the report. In a 1993 Milwaukee Journal interview, Katz said the concept behind PKZip was launched at his mother's kitchen table in 1986. The product's popularity exploded. "It was just a hobby," he said. "I didn't expect it to turn into a business." Despite his success as a software engineer, Katz had troubles in his personal life. Authorities obtained a search warrant in 1997 after Katz's Mequon neighbors complained about odors, insects and mice at his luxury condominium. Authorities said they found knee-deep garbage and decaying food at the condo. Katz's lawyers paid the city of Mequon about $8,000 for the cost of the cleanup, pest exterminators and legal fees. Bruce Wilson ------------------------------ From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.Net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died Date: 24 Apr 2000 03:30:44 GMT Organization: New Age Consulting Service Inc., Cleveland, OH, USA From 'Monty Solomon': > ZWASKA FUNERAL HOME 354-5330 Serving the Family An area code would be helpful, Monty... North Shore Technologies, Cleveland, OH http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net - 888.480.4NET - 216.619.2NET "Never attribute to malice events more properly attributed to corporate greed." --Me, March 28th, 2000 ------------------------------ From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman) Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Date: 25 Apr 2000 14:55:18 GMT Organization: Personal Opinions Only Reply-To: lederman@eisner.decus.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.org In article , Mickey Ferguson writes: > Maybe I'm a little sensitive because I work in the public safety > industry (software developer for 911 systems), but there's no way in > the world I would ever put one of these devices on my phone line. What > happens if there is an emergency and someone needs to get hold of me? > If they don't know the passcode, they can't. My privacy is valuable to > me, but being able to contact me in an emergency is far more > important. Of course you have a valid point, and each person is going to have to decide this for themselves. > If you really hate being interrupted, why not turn off the ringer and > let your answering machine answer after one ring. Then have the Since I normally get nothing but telemarketing calls, I have taken to letting the answering machine pick up all calls. > greeting state that if this is a sales call (or other junk call -0- you > figure out the wording), hang up because you don't accept those kinds > of calls. Also warn them about the law concerning unsolicited repeat The problem with this is that the telemarketers won't ever hear this announcement. They all seem to use predictive dialers, so they don't hear what's on your answering machine. I suppose if you start your answering machine message with "Hello" then they might pick up, but I doubt if any of the people making the calls will pay any attention to it at all. It has been my experience that requesting they take you off their lists has little effect. My previous tactic was to pick up the telephone, wait for them to start their pitch, then put the 'phone down and let them talk to dead air. This workes to some extent, but lately I found that between 60% and 80% of the time I answered the telephone I was the one that got dead air: the telemarketers never picked up at their end. Hence my switch to not answering the telephone at all. I plan to put the SIT tones on my answering machine message. I really hope the predictive dialers will interpret this as a non-working number. It seems to be the only way to stop them. B. Z. Lederman Personal Opinions Only Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing list of any kind. Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post. ------------------------------ From: Norm Subject: Reconditioned Cellular Phone Retail? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:39:57 -0400 Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated Can anyone recommend a retail source of reconditioned analog portable cellular phones? I need to replace a broken phone I've been using with with Verizon-Wireless (formerly Bell Atlantic) and am looking for alternatives to signing year's contract to get a discounted price ($222 total) on a replacement from Verizon-Wireless. Thanks, Norm ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V20 #84 ***************************** From editor@telecom-digest.org Tue Apr 25 21:39:19 2000 Received: (from ptownson@localhost) by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25260; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:39:19 -0400 (EDT) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <200004260139.VAA25260@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V20 #85 TELECOM Digest Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:39:00 EDT Volume 20 : Issue 85 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Dialing Codes In/From the NANP (Re: NANP; Canada's Plan) (Mark J. Cuccia) Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Secret Squirrel) Emergencies, was: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works (Danny Burstein) Re: Caller ID - Name Display (Mark J. Cuccia) Re: Ring of Thieves Suspected in Cable Box Thefts (Thomas A. Horsley) Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan (James Bellaire) Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died (Mark Crispin) Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died (Ed Ellers) Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died (Roy Smith) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:58:03 CDT From: Mark J Cuccia Subject: Dialing Codes in/from the NANP (Re: NANP; Canada's Plan) abuse@cabal.org.uk (Peter Corlett) wrote in "Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan": > Linc Madison wrote: >> More to the point, if Canada were assigned its own country code, >> it would probably NOT be 1X or even 1XX -- it would probably be >> something like 295. The only way that Canada could get a 1X or 1XX >> code would be to force the rest of the NANP to do the same, absent >> a MAJOR change in ITU rules. > I suspect that +10 or +11 could be used -- I don't believe there are > any numbers in the NANP starting 0 or 1. I'm fairly confident codes > 0010 and 0011 don't do anything from Europe[0]. Would 01110 and 01111 > cause any sort of conflict from other services on offer by US telcos? First, I will re-iterate what I (and others) have stated in earlier replies regarding the POSSIBILITY of Canada becoming +100... This is ONLY an OPTION being examined. It is NOT anything that has been finalized to "happen". Canadian regulatory is only looking into this and other NANP expansion plans on the table out there, for further industry discussion and public comment. The POSSIBILITY of Canada becoming +100 would FIRST have to be negotiated with the US (and Caribbean) entities that 'manage' and provide service in the NANP as well. Customer dialing from overseas to +1-etc. as (the usual '00' exist code from MOST countries outside of the NANP) followed by '10' or '11' is most likely going to be rejected. However, depending on the carrier you dial over, it is also possible that you could be routed to some "sleazeball" sex/porno/psychic/etc PAY-PAY-PAY-per-call number, which 'terminates' WHO KNOWS WHERE! There are NUMEROUS instances of such "sleazeball" companies that 'hi-jack' un-used numbering space in other country codes for such "services"(?). The major carriers' gateway switches and networks in the originating country will most likely block access to un-used numbering/codes. Also note, by "un-used" numbering space, an OPERATOR in an originating country might actually "key" such codes to reach other operators in the destination country. The national operators in a particular country code would similarly use such codes for special routings, or the automated network could use such "un-used" codes for network control. Within the NANP, there are such 1XX/0XX codes used in the Area Code part or in the central office code part of the number, for such internal network switchings/routings or operator-to-operator routings and controls. Where the "sleazeball" companies "hi-jack" such "un-used" numbering space, they also run into a future potential problem where that country might have such "presently un-used for customer numbers" number/code space for FUTURE expansion or assignments. Thus you could run into a conflict down the road somewhere! As for CUSTOMER dialing WITHIN/FROM the NANP, you mention 01110 and 01111. This could "potentially" be used to reach any POSSIBLE future country codes 10X or 11X. 011+country-code+, from the NANP is for "sent-paid" customer dialed calling to other country codes. 011-10X+ and 011-11X+ IN THEORY could be used. HOWEVER, we in the NANP _ALSO_ use 01+country-code+ for placing calls to other country codes that require SPECIAL BILLING or operator assistance. Since there are no other country codes beginning with '1', any sent-paid toll calling within the NANP is dialed as 1+ten-digits (or in a few cases such as NY/CA/IL type places, 'straight' seven-digits can be used to place a toll call to a location in your own area code). "Special billing" or "operator assisted" customer-dialed calls within the NANP are dialed as 0+ten-digits (or via 800/888/etc. or 950-xxxx 'dialup' access). We can NOT place inTRA-NANP calls with our international exit prefixes. Countries that use '00+' for their international exit prefix CAN frequently use 00+ their own country code+ the complete national number (less any '0' access prefix 'embedded' into the national number), for local or national toll calls. i.e., a call WITHIN London UK can OPTIONALLY be dialled as 00-44-20-7/8xxx-xxxx. We can NOT even OPTIONALLY dial "sent-paid" calls within the NANP as 011-1-NXX-nxx-xxxx, although this is THEORETICALLY possible for such "sent paid" calls. _IF_ our "special billing" prefix for customer-dialed international calls were CHANGED from 01+ to 010+, then there would be _NO_ numbering/code dialing "conflict" problem with being able to OPTIONALLY place intra-NANP calls as 011+1+ten-digits (sent-paid) or 010+1+ten-digits (special billed customer dialed). In one of SEVERAL options for NANP Expansion being discussed, Canada DOES admit in their documents that to become +100 would require negotiation with the other members of the NANP. If this couldn't be resolved, and Canada DOES ultimately choose to part from the NANP, and get its own ITU country code, then they would need to get a three-digit code beginning with some other digit 2 thru 9, most likely something of the 29X format. Also, the Canadian plan under discussion would mean that all "sent-paid" inTRA-Canadian calls, both local and toll, would be dialed on a "straight" (no access digit/prefix) complete ten-digit basis. I assume that customer-dialed "special billing" intra-Canadian calls would be dialed as 0+ten-digits as is now, but I don't think that the Canadian document discusses this. "Sent-paid" Calls from Canada to the US/NANP would be dialed as 1+full-NANP-number. There is nothing indicated in the document as to how "special billed customer dialed" calls from Canada to the US/NANP would be dialed, but I could only assume that 01+full-NANP-number. However, since Canada has been part of the NANP for all along prior to this, they too use 01+ country-codes (2XX->9XX)+ to place "special billed customer dialed" international/overseas calls, and 011+ country-code+ to place "sent-paid" Intl/Ovs calls. MAYBE they (or the entire NANP?) may change over to 010+ (as I would like to see for customer-dialed special-billed IDDD calling), REGARDLESS of whether Canada remains a FULL member of the NANP or if it becomes "semi-NANP" (+100) or gets its own 2XX->9XX possible ITU country-code ??? Continuing on the potential Canadian possible option ... calls from the US/NANP to Canada would be dialed as 100+ the ten-digit Canadian number. There would be NO need to dial 011+. This is for "sent-paid" calling. There is NO mention in the document on how to place "special billed customer dialed" calls from the US/NANP to Canada, but possibly 0+100+ the ten-digit Canadian number? As long as the ITU does _NOT_ begin to assign country-codes 0XX, this COULD be possible. However, _IF_ the ITU has already assigned country-codes of the form 0XX or does so AFTER Canada would potentially become "semi-NANP", then 0+100+ would conflict with US/NANP dialing (as speical billed) to any 00X country code which would need to follow the 01+00X+ dialing procedure. Of course, maybe the ENTIRE NANP might change their special-billed customer-dialed international exit prefix from 01+ to 010+, as it really (IMO) SHOULD have been planned for since the 1960's when customer-dialed IDDD was being discussed for the future!!! Finally, MAYBE the use of 0+ for inTRA-NANP (or inTRA-Canada) and 01+ (or hopefully 010+?) for NANP/US/Canada->overseas --- "customer-dialed" special-billed calling COULD ultimately be abolished, and replaced with the EXCLUSIVE use of "dialups" on 800/888/etc. (or even the almost obsolete use of 950-xxxx) access numbers. However, when using "dialups" to get a long-distance carrier's 'dialtone' or menu platform requires the use of TOUCHTONE signaling from the calling party to enter the ultimate destination digits. Rotary/Pulse dial phones are STILL going to be around for a long time to come, and the use of 0+ and 01+ has been embedded in the network (and tariff) for so many decades! Even if the local central office takes DTMF (touchtone) signaling, many people STILL want to keep their "old reliable" black (or color) rotary dial phones manufactured by Western Electric (or Automatic Electric, etc) many decades ago, which could last FOREVER! (True, one could use an acoustic battery powered touchtone device held to the mouthpiece, but not many people would want to do so). I don't know what Canada will ultimately choose to do. It might happen that number/code conservation procedures will be implemented throughout the NANP over the next couple of years that the NANP won't need to expand to more-than-ten digits for a LOOOOONNNNNGGGG time to come, thus Canada might choose to stay in a fully integrated NANP. MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497 WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497) Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail- ------------------------------ Date: 25 Apr 2000 04:49:17 -0000 Subject: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works From: Secret Squirrel Organization: mail2news@nym.alias.net >>>> Well, in response to my inquiry Mike Sandman has done it. His latest >>>> little black box, called the "Telemarketer Stopper" does exactly what >>>> I was needing and is line powered. Best of all it's reasonably >>>> inexpensive at $25.95. (in lots of 3 or more they're $24.95 each) >>> The price went up since you last checked: $34.95 >> I'm working on an anti-telemarketing device of my own, one that acts >> like an auto-attendant in that it requires the caller to enter a >> passcode before ringing the handset. For an outgoing call the box >> senses handset offhook and directly connects handset to outside >> line. It does not depend on CallerID or any special services by the >> telco. It will need a transformer plugged in to a wall outlet. It'd >> be nice if I could get the purchase price down to US$50. > I bought one of those years ago, from an para-military catalog. It > cost about $50. It answered the phone and asked for a 4-digit > passcode in a distinctly Asian female voice. It the correct passcode > was entered, it would generate a ring of it's own. > Problem was, if you put it in front of an answering machine, > the machine would never pick up, so I sold it to a co-worker. By the age of this box I presume the voice announcement came from a cassette playback? My box would generate a belcore-standard ring signal and provide -48VDC downstream so shouldn't have these problems you encountered. Anybody know where to get some examples of SLIC designs? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The ones I have seen had a three digit > code assigned to ring an answering machine as well as an actual code > to ring the persons in the room. That allowed for people who knew the > proper code to leave a message on the machine if I was not at home. > The reason the answering machine would not pick up was because the > machine made a ring of its own rather than passing voltage down the > line to individual instruments as would be required of an answering > machine. PAT] Steve ------------------------------ From: dannyb@panix.com (Danny Burstein) Subject: Emergencies, was: Re: Telemarketer Stopper That Works Date: 25 Apr 2000 01:56:51 -0400 In Mickey Ferguson writes: > Maybe I'm a little sensitive because I work in the public safety > industry (software developer for 911 systems), but there's no way in > the world I would ever put one of these devices on my phone line. What > happens if there is an emergency and someone needs to get hold of me? > If they don't know the passcode, they can't. My privacy is valuable to > me, but being able to contact me in an emergency is far more > important. Unless you're a B-52 pilot sitting in the crew room during the warmest days of the Cold War nervously awaiting the "go code", there's no "emergency" that can't wait the short extra time that alternative notification methods take. In any event, this is a decision that the person with the phone line should be able to make. We've had _many_ intrusions on privacy made by (usually well-meaning) folk claiming that they're needed "just for emergencies". Just as one glaring example: the real time (and recorded!) cellular phone location networks. Thanks to this FCC mandate, cellular companies will shortly be able to plot a map showing your location (within a couple of hundred feet) every ten minutes or so. And they'll be able to do this not only for your 911 call, but also, six months after the fact, print out where you spent any day in question. While I'm pretty sure most of us wouldn't mind this info being used to, for example, track down the movements of the WTC bombers, how long do you think it'll be before this info is demanded, via subpoena, for all sorts of mundane situations, both criminal and civil? What I'm getting it as that I take any suggestions that "we need this to help in case of emergencies" right up there with the "we need to do this to protect the kids" or we "need to do this for the War On Drugs". Danny 'and while you're at it, could you explain to me how a man in Poland has a watch set to London time?' Burstein [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:05:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark J Cuccia Subject: Re: Caller ID - Name Display ed_ellers@msn.com wrote: > Jeremy Greene wrote: >> I don't know how that works, but I wish all phone companies would let >> you do it. And similarly, I guess some people might want to have the >> name displayed but the number private. > I doubt that that's possible, since SS7 doesn't provide for caller name > display -- there is only one flag to control ID display, so you can > either display both or inhibit both. Actually, I think that there is an SS7 delivery protocol or "flagging" field to allow display of number but supress name, and vice-versa. There are FAR more fields and capabilities about Signaling System #7 than most of us realize. I only wish I had the money to buy the Telcordia (formerly Bellcore) and Lucent and Nortel documents regarding SS7, and the time to read and re-read them, to try to comprehend every nuance about SS7. And SS7 features, functions, and capabilities keep growing. Also, how the features interact between different (connecting) carriers will vary from carrier-to-carrier. I've had calls come into my number via AT&T, originated from USWest territory (from a #1AESS), where the number displayed, but the name field had "PRIVATE", yet via other carriers from the same number on a USWest #1AESS, where the same number displays, yet the name can show. I don't think that _NANPA_ nor the FCC has recommended any "standard" *XX = 11-XX "Vertical Service Codes" to supress one yet allow the other. I know that this is possible in Canada, which uses a slightly different method of SS7 signaling between their predominantly Nortel DMS switches (no surpise about Nortel, being a Canadian creation! :) Sometimes, I think that you might have to have "supress one yet not the other" on a "default for all calls" on that line - yet there might not be a "per-call toggle to allow the default supresses info to temporarily be displayed on that call"... If someone's name is set to be allowed to appear, yet their number is suppressed, I think that since I usually leave "Block-the-Blocker" (Anonymous Call Rejection) turned on most of the time (*77 = 11-77; turn-off as *87 = 11-87), my central office will not ring my phone (not connect that caller to my line), but will play the "rejection" announcement to the caller. Another thing about "Calling Name", and I only found out about this recently... In Canada, the "Name" is sent-forward WITH the number. In the US, the "NAME" is mostly requested by the distant end towards some central database of names/numbers in a "reverse lookup" way. The reason ... Canada being mostly DMS (Digital) when "Name" was being planned for or introduced, the DMS offices had data storage capacity and operational capability to store the "Name" with each number AT THE CALLING PARTY's (DMS) central office; However, at the time, the US being mostly analog non-digital but still electronic #1AESS switches made by good-ole' Western Electric/AT&T (Lucent) -- those #1AESSes didn't have the storage capacity to hold all of the "names" associated with all line-numbers, nor the speed to prepare them to be "sent-forward" SS7 with the number on all outbound calls. It may be possible that DMS switches in the US _DO_ pass "name" forward between each other, in SS7. I've been told that if one is served by a DMS-100 _CENTREX_ in the US, calls from Canada (DMS), and POSSIBLY from within the US (if they are made from a DMS) _CAN_ display the name on calls from places where "name" might not usually be available to the called party outside of the calling party's area, because that "name" might not be available in a centralized database. Yet if it passes forward (the LD carrier, even the LEC sends forward an entire SS7 message it gets) and the DMS-100 CENTREX in the US might know "where" to find the "forward name" in the SS7 message block. I would _HOPE_ that at some point in the future, all of the LECs and LD carriers in the NANP will be fully compatable and inter-operable in _ALL_ SS7-based custom-calling and vertical service features... but it may still take some time for everything to be put into place for that. MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497 WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497) Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Ring of Thieves Suspected in Cable Box Thefts From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:29:53 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet > The management of the telecommunications companies involved here > should likewise be regarded as hopelessly naive and stupid -- or just > plain short-sighted and irresponsible. These *are* after all cable companies we're talking about here :-). >>==>> The *Best* political site >>==+ email: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net icbm: Delray Beach, FL | Free Software and Politics <<==+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:54:39 -0500 From: James Bellaire Subject: Re: NANP is Running Out of Codes - Canada's Plan Mark J Cuccia wrote: > First, I will re-iterate what I (and others) have stated > in earlier replies regarding the POSSIBILITY of Canada > becoming +100... > This is ONLY an OPTION being examined. It is NOT anything > that has been finalized to "happen". Canadian regulatory > is only looking into this and other NANP expansion plans > on the table out there, for further industry discussion > and public comment. It is only a possibility, but it does open doors to the situations that we have been discussing in numbering groups - basically splitting off Canada within the NANP and dividing the NANP into zones. All barriers can be overcome with the proper planning. If Canada wishes to become +100 it could be done. They just have to make the rest of the NANP admins see it as a good thing. > The POSSIBILITY of Canada becoming +100 would FIRST have > to be negotiated with the US (and Caribbean) entities that > 'manage' and provide service in the NANP as well. Right now the entire NANP is up for negotiation while planning the expansion. This Canadian proposal could be added to the viable plans. > Customer dialing from overseas to +1-etc. as (the usual '00' > exist code from MOST countries outside of the NANP) followed > by '10' or '11' is most likely going to be rejected. Until it is fixed. Any numbering change into previously rejected space needs adjustments to make it work. > However, depending on the carrier you dial over, it is also > possible that you could be routed to some "sleazeball" > sex/porno/psychic/etc PAY-PAY-PAY-per-call number, which > 'terminates' WHO KNOWS WHERE! There are NUMEROUS instances > of such "sleazeball" companies that 'hi-jack' un-used numbering > space in other country codes for such "services"(?). The major > carriers' gateway switches and networks in the originating > country will most likely block access to un-used numbering/codes. That is an improper use of numbering space and the ITU should do something to stop it. I don't believe we should rule out Canada's plan or any other numbering scheme because of improper uses by sleazeballs. > Also note, by "un-used" numbering space, an OPERATOR in an > originating country might actually "key" such codes to reach > other operators in the destination country. The national > operators in a particular country code would similarly use > such codes for special routings, or the automated network > could use such "un-used" codes for network control. Unless there is a 00 beyond +1 that operators use internally I see no problem. As you have posted before, the 0xx/1xx codes are used for internal routing, but have you seen 00x in use? If the NANP admins were willing to cooperate I can see Canada moving to +1-00 even without leaving the NANP. It would be the same level of cooperation needed for Canada to leave the NANP and use +100. Maybe even move the Carribean to +199 npa nxx xxxx. There are always possibilities. DIALING PLAN As a non-NANP country Canada would not be tied to 011 / 01 for outgoing international. They could move to 00+ or 01+ dialing as I have suggested several times before for the NANP. I don't believe the cost of a timeout after the 00 is too high to pay to get rid of 011+ dialing. If the remaining NANP would consider this (read: Accept IT!) then 00+ would be sent paid, 01+ would be operator assist, and we would still have the parallel system without the confusing 011+ 01+ dialing. I really hope this can be worked out without anyone leaving the NANP. But I admire the Canadians for being willing to go to that extent to come up with a numbering system for THEIR users. > Countries that use '00+' for their international exit prefix > CAN frequently use 00+ their own country code+ the complete > national number (less any '0' access prefix 'embedded' into > the national number), for local or national toll calls. Another addition I would put in the NANP dialing plan. > I don't know what Canada will ultimately choose to do. It > might happen that number/code conservation procedures will > be implemented throughout the NANP over the next couple of > years that the NANP won't need to expand to more-than-ten > digits for a LOOOOONNNNNGGGG time to come, thus Canada > might choose to stay in a fully integrated NANP. Thanks for the laugh. The kids are in the toy store and they have been looking at these new fangled longer than 10 digit numbers. I don't believe that they will stop until we have longer than 10 digits, before the end of this unnamed decade. James Bellaire ------------------------------ From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:37:22 -0700 Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, J.F. Mezei wrote: > It will be fascinating to see how historians/educators teach kids 50 > years from now about the transformation from industrial to information > age. I wonder how many of the true builders will be remembered and how > many will wrongly be given titles of builders of the net. I suspect that many of the "true builders of the net" who are still living are pleased not to be burdened with the recognition. Some have taken careers in entirely different directions (one pioneer is reputed to have become an exotic dancer). Some are unhappy at the crass commercialism and loss of community in the past 10 years. Still others simply prefer quiet lives. -- Mark -- * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:44:38 -0400 Monty Solomon quoted: Phil was a graduate of UWM Computer Science Engineering Program. He was the author of the PKZIP/PKUNZIP software and owner of PKWARE Inc. Co." PKZIP came to be in an interesting way. PKware's original product was PKARC, a file compression program that used the same format as System Enhancement Associates' ARC utility. SEA sued PKware for copying its format (I've forgotten whether it was on patent or copyright grounds), and in a settlement PKware was allowed to release one last version with the ARC format (now called PKPAK) but had to develop its own format for future versions -- which turned out to be a massive mistake on SEA's part, because (A) PKware placed the new ZIP format in the public domain, and (B) BBS sysops and users touched off a massive boycott of the ARC format, killing it (and the ARC program) off. ------------------------------ From: Roy Smith Subject: Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died Organization: New York University School of Medicine Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:36:05 -0400 J.F. Mezei wrote: > generation who think that Bill Gates invented the internet Silly. 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In discussing the principle that a bankruptcy court cannot exercise summary jurisdiction over property unless the debtor or trustee has actual or constructive possession of the property in question, the court observed that 'for a business, . . . telephone numbers constitute a unique property interest...' CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1784 P - NSI IN BED WITH WHO?! This is industry 'self regulation' at its finest CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1725 P - GAO ASKED TO EXPAND INVESTIGATION OF ICANN The GAO's investigation is being led by Ed Warner, and was authorized by Congress in Conference Report #106479. It is expected by June, 2000. CONTINUED HERE: http://www.icbtollfree.com/article.cfm?articleId=1726 F - ABSURDITY DOT COM The U.S. District Court judge issued an injunction ordering Rogers to contact the company that registers the domain names and tell them to stop letting people access the site. 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Zwaska Funeral Home 4900 W Bradley Rd Milwaukee, WI 414-354-5330 puma@catbox.com ------------------------------ From: Ed Ellers Subject: Re: Obituary: Phil Katz (PKZIP, PKWARE) Has Died Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:23:50 -0400 Mark Crispin wrote: > I suspect that many of the "true builders of the net" who are still living > are pleased not to be burdened with the recognition. Some have taken > careers in entirely different directions (one pioneer is reputed to have > become an exotic dancer)." Ed Roberts -- who founded MITS, often credited with kicking off the personal computing revolution with the Altair 8800 -- did something similar (but arguably more worthwhile) after he sold MITS to Pertec; he went back to college to study medicine, went through medical school and became an MD. He has been practicing as a family physician for, IIRC, well over a decade now. ------------------------------ From: georgep_on_ca@my-deja.com Subject: Changes to the NANP Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:15:17 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. We have the following in the NANP: 0 - Operator 10 - this range is for carrier access codes 11 - same as * codes (ie *98 call-answer or 1198) 011 - for international why couldn't we use 00 for the international id. yes in the usa 00 is your long distance carrier but isn't 0 your local carrier? so the following changes should occur: 0 - Operator (local) 0 - Plus area code for NANP collect calls 00 - Long Distance Operator 00 - Plus country code etc. for int. customer dialed numbers 01 - For overseas collect (same) (However what would we use if the NANP does ever split up?) (maybe we could use 0100 (assuming Canada uses a diff code (ie calls to the UK dialed as 0100-044-20-7222-4444 (ie force 3digit country codes with leading zeroes???) 1 - For NANP toll calls 10 - for NANP carrier access codes. 11 - for * codes? So if you are calling within USA/Canada a call within ie Buffalo number to a Buffalo number could be dialed as 718-222-3333 1-718-222-3333 00-1-718-222-3333 for local calls numbers could be dialed with any of the above format. However for toll calls they could only be dialed as 1-718-222-3333 00-1-718-222-3333 Which would indicate that it is a toll number. I noticed that my cell phone company lets me enter a local number as 7 digits, 10 digits, or 11 digits and knows the differance. The reason they do this is for roaming purposes, ie. so you don't need to keep changing the number as you move outside the calling area. If 800/888/877/866/855 calls are toll free why can't we dial them as 10-digit numbers esp. in areas which have forced 10-digit local dialing? ------------------------------ From: ellis@ftel.net (Rick Ellis) Subject: What's a "Don't Call List?" Date: 26 Apr 2000 04:26:35 GMT Organization: Franklin interNet http://www.franklin.net I've had *three* telemarketing calls pushing AT&T tonite. Starting with the very first one I've asked them to put me on their don't call list. What's the next step? http://www.fnet.net/~ellis/photo/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 01:10:54 -0400 From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Justice Reaches Altamont, Kansas You no doubt remember all the hysteria from the events at Columbine High School about a year ago. Here and there around the USA for months afterward, there were 'copycat' situations. Indeed, Columbine was bad news, but many of the reactions afterward were bad also. A lot of people reacted po