Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa22247; 4 Jan 95 0:30 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA27151; Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:12:06 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA27144; Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:12:02 CST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:12:02 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501040212.AA27144@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #1 TELECOM Digest Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:12:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 1 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Happy New Year! Administrivia, et al ... (TELECOM Digest Editor) UC Berkely Short Courses on Broadband and Wireless Comm (Harvey Stern) 21 LEC's Violate Comm Act, Ordered To Pay Damages (Alan Boritz) Washington Telecom News (enews@access.digex.net) Need Some Basic Leased Line Information (William E. White) "High-End" Phone Products (Sohail Malik) Bell Atlanta-PA Insert Disclaimer (Peter M. Weiss) Memorized Area Codes (Stephen Denny) Direct Rate Negotiation (VN) (Glenn Foote) Finland Data Transmission (Jack Pestaner) Personal Communcications (Arndt Ritterbecks) Script Translation for TDD/TTY Use (primeperf@aol.com) Cell Phone Programming (Alex McPhail) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:36:57 CST From: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor) Subject: Happy New Year! Administrivia, et al ... First of all, happy new year to everyone. I hope 1995 is a good year for you, and I certainly hope it is better for me than 1994, which was not one I want to repeat anytime soon. To close out the old year in the style to which I seem to have become accustomed, I discovered that the program I use to update the mailing list was malfunctioning, and had been in a clever, devious and barely discernable way for about a month or more. Quite a few people who had requested addition to the mailing list had not been added, and folks who requested deletion were still getting copies. I spent quite a bit of time manually adding and deleting a few hundred entries over the past couple of days. I *think* everything is now up to date. If you are still getting copies of the Digest and have previously requested deletion, please advise me personally. If you have previously requested addition to the list and have not been added, also let me know. (I hear astute readers asking: if that was the case, then how would they see this message to know they were supposed to ask again? Well, they see it on Usenet in the telecom newsgroup, or one of the other various places where the Digest is distributed. We are getting former Usenetters in droves. Lots of folks there are going strictly with the privately maintained, moderated e-journals.) The Telecom Archives has also been updated. It was getting to be a mess with outdated files and it was very disorganized. A new section of the Archives is devoted to the dozens of book reviews which have appeared here in the Digest over the past couple of years. Suggestion: not all the reviews which appeared here have necessarily been ported to that directory. If you wrote a review or a book which was discussed here, check out the Archives and make sure you are included. If not, and you want to be, let me know. George Gilder has been established in a main directory at the Archives. Previously his writings were mixed in with other reports and essays. The index of authors and subjects in TELECOM Digest has been updated to include all of 1994. You can use these interactively via the Telecom Archives Email Information Service with the SEARCH command or you can pull the entire files, your choice. The index goes back only to 1989. I'd like to go back further, but I need some professional help in figuring out how to extract the desired information from those old files. By now you should have received a copy of the new 1995 Table of Contents/ Index which was distributed earlier Tuesday evening. If not, then ask for a copy. I am told we might have a newly revised telecom FAQ by the end of February, and we might have some updated area code and country code files soon also. In other news: I decided to bite the bullet and as of January 1, 1995 my official employer is The TELECOM Digest, a not-for-profit educational activity registered in Cook County, Illinois. Whether or not I get paid any salary depends upon you, my ultimate employers. I guess you know what that means without further elaboration. Let's get on with this, the first issue of the new year. Patrick Townson ------------------------------ From: southbay@garnet.berkeley.edu Subject: UC Berkely Short Courses on Broadband and Wireless Communications Date: 4 Jan 1995 01:18:38 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley U.C. Berkeley Continuing Education in Engineering Announces 3 Short Courses on Broadband Communications, Wireless Networks MODERN TELECOMMUNICATIONS: Wide Area Networks, Personal Communication Systems, Network Management and Control, and Multimedia Applications (March 2-3, 1995) This course is designed as a gentle but comprehensive overview of telecommunications including current status and future directions. This course traces the evolution of telecommunications, starting from its voice roots and progressing through local, metropolitan, and wide area networks, narrowband ISDN, asynchronous transfer mode, broadband ISDN, satellite systems, optical communications, cellular radio, personal communication systems, all-optical networks, and multimedia services. Lecturer: Anthony S. Acampora, Ph.D., Professor, Electrical Engineering, Columbia University. He is Director, Center for Telecommunications Research. He became a professor following a 20 year career at AT&T Bell Laboratories, is an IEEE Fellow, and is a former member of the IEEE Communications Society Board of Governors. SONET/ATM-BASED BROADBAND NETWORKS: Systems, Architectures and Designs (March 29-31, 1995) It is widely accepted that future broadband networks will be based on the SONET (Synchronous Optical Network) standards and the ATM (Asynchronous transfer Mode) technique. This course is an in-depth examination of the fundamental concepts and the implementation issues for development of future high-speed networks. Topics include: Broadband ISDN Transfer Protocol, high speed computer/network interface (HiPPI), ATM switch architectures, ATM network congestion/flow control, VLSI designs in SONET/ATM networks. This course is intended for engineers who are currently active or anticipate future involvement in this field. Lecturer: H. Jonathan Chao, Ph.D., Associate Professor, Brooklyn Polytechnic University. Dr. Chao holds more than a dozen patents and has authored over 40 technical publications in the areas of ATM switches, high-speed computer communications, and congestion/flow control in ATM networks. NETWORKS FOR DIGITAL WIRELESS ACCESS: Cellular, Voice, Data, Packet, and Personal Communication Systems (March 6-8, 1995) This comprehensive course is focused on the principles, technologies, system architectures, standards, and market forces driving wireless access. At the core of this course are the cellular/microcellular/ frequency reuse concepts needed to enable adequate wireless access capacity for Personal Communication Services (PCS). Presented are both the physical-level issues associated with wireless access and the network-level issues arising from the inherent mobility of the subscriber. Standards are fully treated including GSM (TDMA), IS-54 (North American TDMA), IS-95 (CDMA), CT2, DCT 900/CT3, IEEE 802.11, DCS 1800, and Iridium. Emerging concepts for wireless ATM are also developed. This course is intended for engineers who are currently active or anticipate future involvement in this field. Lecturer: Anthony S. Acampora, Ph.D., Professor, Electrical Engineering, Columbia University. He is Director, Center for Telecommunications Research. He became a professor following a 20 year career at AT&T Bell Laboratories, is an IEEE Fellow, and is a former member of the IEEE Communications Society Board of Governors. For more information (complete course descriptions, outlines, instructor bios, etc.) send your postal address or fax to: Harvey Stern or Loretta Lindley U.C. Berkeley Extension/Southbay 800 El Camino Real Ste. 150 Menlo Park, CA 94025 Tel: (415) 323-8141 Fax: (415) 323-1438 ------------------------------ Subject: 21 LEC's Violate Comm Act, Ordered To Pay Damages From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.uu.net (Alan Boritz) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 95 16:28:13 EST Organization: Harry's Place - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861 From ftp.fcc.gov: NEWS Report No. DC-594 COMMON CARRIER ACTION December 23, 1994 DAMAGES AWARDED FOR LEC VIOLATIONS OF RATE OF RETURN PRESCRIPTION In response to complaints filed by several long distance carriers, the Commission has determined that 21 local exchange carriers (LECs) have violated the Communications Act by earning in excess of the rate of return for interstate access services prescribed by the Commission for the period January 1, 1989, through December 31, 1990. The complainants, with the LECs about whom they complained in parenthesis, are American Network Exchange et al. (Pacific Bell); Cable&Wireless et al. (GTE California, GTE Florida, GTE North - Indiana, Michigan, Missouri and Wisconsin, GTE Northwest, Contel West Rate Group, Contel East/South Rate Group, New York Telephone, BellSouth, Ameritech, US WEST); Call-America (US WEST); LDDSMetromedia Communications (United Telephone Company of Florida, United Telephone System - Midwest, Centel - Texas, Centel - Virginia, Cincinnati Bell); MCI Telecommunications Corp. et al. (New York Telephone, BellSouth, Ameritech, East Ascension Telephone Co., Cincinnati Bell, Southwestern Bell); and WilTel, Inc. (Pacific Bell). The Commission awarded monetary damages, plus interest, for the defendants' violations but allowed the defendants to offset the complainants' damages to the extent that the complainants purchased access services from the defendants during the period in question at rates that produced earnings below the Commission's prescribed levels. After taking into account these offsets, the Commission has ordered the LECs to pay monetary damages amounting to $3,435,968, exclusive of interest. The highest single damages award is against US West in the amount of $926,779. US West is also liable in the aggregate for $1,236,709, the highest aggregate damages awarded against any defendant in this proceeding. Action by the December 23, 1994, by Memorandum Opinion and Order (FCC 94-339). Chairman Hundt, Commissioners Quello, Barrett, Ness and Chong. - FCC - News Media contact: Susan Lewis Sallet and Maureen Peratino at (202) 418-0500. Common Carrier Bureau contacts: Donna N. Lampert at (202) 418-1500 and Colleen Heitkamp at (202) 418-0960. ----------------- aboritz%drharry@uunet.uu.net or uunet!drharry!aboritz Harry's Place (drharry.UUCP) - Mahwah NJ USA - +1-201-934-0861 ------------------------------ From: enews@access.digex.net (enews) Subject: Washington Telecom News Date: 3 Jan 1995 11:42:55 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA The featured article from the December 26 issue of WASHINGTON TELECOM NEWS looks at the market problems faced by American telecom companies. Here is an excerpt from "THE `ALLURING PARADOX' OF U.S. TELCOS AND FOREIGN MARKETS." According to the Economic Strategy Institute's (ESI) Crossed Wires: How Foreign Regulations and U.S. Policies Are Holding Back the U.S. Telecommuni-cations Services Industry, "The dearth of U.S. participation in key foreign markets can be explained by prohibitive government regulations that restrict U.S. firms from exploiting their competitive advantage in telecommunications services." The report's principal author, ESI Managing Director Larry Chimerine, added that foreign barriers have resulted in a $4 billion trade deficit in phone services and lost opportunities to pursue more that $288 billion in potential revenues. Although some of the deficit may be attributed to the fact that there is more traffic originating in the United States resulting in more access charges to foreign telco providers, more than half of that deficit -- $2.1 billion -- is because of overpayments for that access. "Foreign [companies] use this mechanism to overcharge U.S. consumers and discriminate against the U.S. by charging significantly more for terminating calls from the United States than for calls originating in other countries, despite small cost differentials," said the report's co-author, research associate Erik Olbeter. ESI's Recommendations to Remedy the Situation To rectify the situation, the ESI recommends that the United States complete the deregulation of the domestic market, which would place pressure on foreign governments to liberalize their own under threat of reciprocal restricted market access. In addition, the government must adopt a proactive, incentive- based strategy to open foreign markets. "The U.S. already has one of the most open telecommunications markets in the world, allowing foreign competitors to pursue cellular properties and partnerships," Chimerine said. "If progress is not made, the FCC should consider the home of a carrier when reviewing applica-tions." This approach probably would not hurt U.S. companies in the long run. "We don't have much to lose because we're not there anyway," Chimerine said. "At some point, we have to stand up and do what's right for the U.S. economy." Finally, ESI's Olbeter suggested instituting a cost-based, non- discriminatory international settlement system to determine settlement rates on international phone traffic. -------------- So begins this issue's featured article from WASHINGTON TELECOM NEWS. This article and others from WASHINGTON TELECOM NEWS and additional publications can be viewed at no charge on The Electronic Newsstand, a service which collects articles, editorials, and table of contents from over 220 magazines and provides them to the Global Internet community. Access to The Electronic Newsstand is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week via Gopher, an information navigation and retrieval technology from the University of Minnesota. For those without a local Gopher client program, The Electronic Newsstand provides a telnet account which will allow you to use a text based Gopher client to access our service. To access The Electronic Newsstand, via Local Gopher Client: Hostname: gopher.enews.com Port: 2100 via the Gopher Home Menu at U of Minn: Other Gopher and Information Servers/ North America/ USA/ General/ The Electronic Newsstand (tm) via Gopher Link Information: Name=The Electronic Newsstand Type=1 Port=2100 Path=1/ Host=gopher.enews.com via Telnet: Hostname: gopher.enews.com Loginname: enews Password: via World Wide Web: URL: http://www.enews.com via electronic mail: Send a blank email message to gophermail@enews.com to retrieve files. We are also available for America Online users in the Gopher area under Literature and Books. If you have any suggestions on how we might improve this service, or need more information, please email staff@enews.com. --The Electronic Newsstand Staff [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This is a really great service which I have always been happy to help publicize. They've gone to a lot of effort and work to prepare a very nice system. Check it out. PAT] ------------------------------ From: bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William E. White) Subject: Need Some Basic Leased Line Information Organization: Ohio University, Computer Science Department Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 21:45:27 GMT A friend and I are interested in getting a leased line to a commercial internet service provider, and have some basic questions that we haven't found decent answers to yet. Specifically, we've contacted OARNet, and received information on ISDN, 56Kb, LVT1, and T1 connections. However, our understanding is that we need to provide the local loop to the nearest OARNet site -- in our case Columbus (we're in Athens, about 100 miles from Columbus). Specifically, what do we *do* to provide this local loop? I'm assuming it's done through our local telco (GTE -- ugh!), but are the costs based on how far it is to Columbus, or how far it is from our site to the phone company? And if the latter is true, would it make sense to find a cheaper provider than OARNet that might be further away? Thank you for your suggestions; my knowledge of telecom stuff is very limited. Heck, I'm not even sure what a T1 line *is*, other than 1.5MBps and around $2.5K per month from OARnet. Bill White +1-614-594-3434 | bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu 44 Canterbury, Athens OH 45701 | finger for PGP2.2 block http://oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu/personal/bwhite.html (check it out!) ------------------------------ From: malik@access.digex.net (Sohail Malik) Subject: "High-end" Phone Products Date: 3 Jan 1995 03:20:23 -0500 Organization: Alif International I'm looking to purchase a telephone with the following features: 2 or 3 lines Conference facility Speaker phone capability Hangable on the wall Cordless I have not found too many of these on the market, at least not from my favorite manufacturers (AT&T and Motorola). In particular, the confer- ence facility needs to be high quality (many I've tried make it hard for the conferenced parties to hear each other). Would anyone be able to recommend particular brands/models that fit these requirements? Also, are there any mail-order places or magazines that specialize in these types of things that I should look at? Thanks in advance, Sohail ------------------------------ Organization: Penn State University Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:06:52 EST From: Peter M. Weiss Subject: Bell Atlanta-PA Insert Disclaimer Found in my Bell Atlantic-PA December bill: "You cannot use Caller ID blocking to block your number when you call an 800 or 900 number. The number goes to the company who provides this service. We do not have a way to block your number when you call an 800 or 900 number. You should know that some companies use your number for marketing and other reasons. However, after April 12, 1995 the FCC has said that they must first ask you if they can use this information for other purposes." Pete-Weiss@psu.edu (Penn State U) ------------------------------ From: sdenny@spd.dsccc.com (Stephen Denny) Subject: Memorized Area Codes Date: 3 Jan 1995 19:15:07 GMT Organization: DSC Communications Corporation, Plano, Texas USA In the small tourist town of Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, located at the foothills of the Great Smoky Mountains, is an amusement park named Dollywood. It is owned by the well-known singer Dolly Parton who originated from Pigeon Forge. At one of the large theatres at the park, there is a fellow who does an audience warm-up act for a show. As part of his act he has the audience call out their favorite area codes and he tells them their location. He is quite good and is virtually never stumped. I suspect that with all the area code splits, he is going to have his hands full keeping up! Stephen Denny sdenny@sun004.cpdsc.com DSC Communications Corp. Plano, TX, USA **Standard Disclaimer** ------------------------------ From: glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Glenn Foote) Subject: Direct Rate Negotiation (VN) Date: 3 Jan 1995 01:13:34 -0500 Organization: The Greater Columbus Freenet I need to find out how major telecom providers are charging for High Volume Services. For example, if a company is (or is thinking of) using a Virtual Network (or the like) and is generating well in excess of 150,000 long distance (48 states only) network hours per month, (plus another 20,000 hours of inbound 800) can that company reasonably expect to negotiate rates with the common carriers? If not, at what point, in your opinion, would direct rate negotiations be considered? Does it make any difference in any negotiations if the general types of calls are short, ie; less than 90 seconds for about 80% of the calls. And to what extent does the Time of Day enter into the picture. In general, what cost per minute should any discussion ask for? Is $0.125 too high, is $0.085 too low? Also, What starts the timer? Initial Dial Tone (assuming direct access to LD carrier), End Of Dialing Sequence, Start of Ringing, or Answer by the Called Party. And, what ends the timer? Hang up of Called Party, Central Office indication to Common Carrier, Hang Up of Calling Party, or some combination thereof. Feel free to use E-mail to respond to this one .... Thanks, Glenn L Foote ...... glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us ------------------------------ From: jackp@telecomm.admin.ogi.edu (Jack Pestaner) Subject: Finland Data Transmission Date: 3 Jan 1995 03:48:44 GMT Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute We have been communicating to a site in Finland with autoranging 14.4k modems. On a good day we can run at 9600, but typically at 2400. We have tried AT&T, MCI, and IDB (all are direct digital connections through our PBX), but all seem to be extremely variable. We use NetBlazer modems, same model, on each end. This is really expensive, and we want to move to a more reliable service, as we expect to have longer hold times of three to five hours a day. I checked on a 56k DDS, but cost was about $9K per month. Are there any satellite solutions, or packet solutions that anybody knows of? BTW, we also tried x.25 from Sprint, but service went down often, and Sprint just has the WORST customer service for problem solving. Thanks, Jack ------------------------------ From: eedari@aachen.eed.ericsson.se (Arndt Ritterbecks) Subject: Personal Communcications Date: 3 Jan 1995 19:15:24 GMT Organization: Ericsson Eurolab Deutschland GmbH Reply-To: eedari@aachen.eed.ericsson.se Hello out there! I'm a diploma student at the Ericsson Eurolab in Germany. My final thesis' topic is: "Adaption And Implementation Of UMTS DDB Concepts For PSCS". The goal of the third generation telecommunication system UMTS is the integration of all telecommunication networks taking into account user and terminal mobility. PSCS is a service concept wherein a service provider offers personal communication to an end user. That means: users are able to organize communication to their own preferences. PSCS can be seen as an improvement and continuation of the UPT ideas (UPT: Universal Personal Telecommunication). Both, UMTS and PSCS, are parts of research projects of the European Community. One of my tasks is to develop a database concept for PSCS. For it I have to find all required data to realize PSCS, e.g. data necessary to support the capabilities of different terminals. One of my points of interest is: are there any conventions or standards holding data of users or terminals in a database? Because information about these and related topics is hard to find I would be very pleased about anybody helping me to find newsgroups, mailinglists, ftp servers, WWW URLs, institutes or email-addresses of persons occupied with one of the following topics: UMTS, UPT, PCS, intelligent networks, personal communications, terminal data. Thank you for any help!!! Arndt ------------------------------ From: primeperf@aol.com (Prime perf) Subject: Script Translation for TDD/TTY Use Date: 03 Jan 1995 10:35:31 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: primeperf@aol.com (Prime perf) Could someone direct me to a script translation service, preferably in the Washington-Baltimore-Richmond area, that can translate information scripts for use on an automated information line accessed by TDD/TTY users? Obviously, I would prefer it if you can recommend a service provider that you have used. Please email direct. ------------------------------ From: amcphail@hookup.net (Alex McPhail) Subject: Cell Phone Programming Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 04:45:27 GMT Organization: TeraScope Research Does anyone have information about how to program your cell phone to change your phone number, etc. Thanks in advance, Alex McPhail TeraScope Research amcphail@hookup.net Voice: +1 (613) 730-1416 Fax: +1 (613) 730-1408 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Oh, I'm sure we have all that information among the various readers here. It would help if you would tell us the kind of phone you have. You might also check out the Motorola programming file in the Telecom Archives and the other articles in the cellular sub-directory there. And let's keep it on the up and up, please. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #1 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa22648; 4 Jan 95 1:10 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA28198; Tue, 3 Jan 95 21:04:04 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA28191; Tue, 3 Jan 95 21:04:01 CST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 21:04:01 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501040304.AA28191@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #2 TELECOM Digest Tue, 3 Jan 95 21:04:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 2 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax (Pat Clawson) Pinouts on RS232 and Echoed Back Characters (Dave Thompson) Erlang Capacit (ERU.ERUDYG@memo4.ericsson.se) Phone Fraud - PBXs (Paul Murray) Phillipines Service Downtime (Al Niven) Netcom in Boston Brea (Vidur Kapoor) Cellular Direct Number (Sanjay Hiranandani) It's Not Tenex Anymore ... (Chris Cappuccio) Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Christian Weisgerber) How Can I Encrypt a T-1? (Quinn Lanus) Where Does ISDN Fit In? (Daniel Ritsma) Need Information on IS-54 (Dharshana P. Jayasuriya) What Magazines do You Read? (Patrick Sukhu) Information Wanted on Munich32 Chip (Matthew P. Downs) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pat Clawson Subject: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 21:00:58 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) January 2, 1995 An Open Letter to Our Colleagues In the Online Communications Community: The announcement by CompuServe and Unisys that users of the GIF image format must register by January 10 and pay a royalty or face lawsuits for their past usage, is the online communications community's equivalent of the sneak attack at Pearl Harbor. The announcement of the CompuServe-Unisys GIF Tax on December 29, during the lull between Christmas and New Year's Day, was clearly timed to cause maximum damage while an unsuspecting public celebrated the holidays. We at TeleGrafix Communications have no quarrel with those who seek to protect their intellectual property and profit from it. Indeed, we are in business to do the same. We believe those who develop software are entitled to reap financial rewards from their labors. But in our opinion, the timing and circumstances of the CompuServe- Unisys action indicates this is a shakedown of the online communications community by two powerful corporations, rather than a reasonable effort to protect intellectual property. The GIF format has been in widespread public use since 1987. Its widespread use and royalty-free licensing has been encouraged by CompuServe for years. Neither CompuServe or Unisys have made any significant improvements to GIF or its underlying LZW algorithm and compression process to justify charging for what has been free. Giving GIF users only 14 days to comply with sudden, unexpected demands to pay the private CompuServe-Unisys GIF Tax or face prosecution for past usage of what had been promoted for seven years as free, open standard software is unconscionable. It is especially outrageous since CompuServe and Unisys admit in writing that they decided to require licensing SIX MONTHS AGO in June, and didn't announce it to the public until now. According to the CompuServe-Unisys GIF licensing agreement, the settlement of the patent dispute was executed on June 21, 1994. CompuServe agreed to implement the agreement "as soon as reasonably practicable and in no case later than six (6) months after the date this Agreement is executed..." That six month period ended on December 21, 1994 -- but CompuServe did not make the licensing terms public until December 28. Indeed, CompuServe appears to have violated the terms of its own settlement agreement with Unisys. While many of the messages we have read online in reaction to the CompuServe-Unisys GIF Tax decree express both dismay and disbelief, virtually none have analyzed the actual provisions of the licensing agreement. It is in this area that TeleGrafix Communications wishes to contribute to the dialogue. In our opinion, the CompuServe-Unisys licensing agreement is both illogical and overly broad. Let's examine some of its key provisions. All quotes cited are directly from the agreement. 1. CompuServe will license Developers who want to use GIF technology. The term "developer" is defined as "the other undersigned party to the agreement," and it seems to apply to ANYONE who contemplates distributing any product that uses the GIF format. 2. Developers will be licensed to sell or distribute "Products" that "use and exploit GIF ... solely within the Field of Use." The term "Field of Use" is defined as "primarily for accessing the CompuServe Information Service and for manipulating and viewing data received through the CompuServe Information Service." The licensing agreement further defines the term "Products" as being "software that is developed or distributed ... which is designed for and used primarily for accessing the CompuServe Information Service and for manipulating and viewing data received through the CompuServe Information Service." IT APPEARS THAT THE ONLY LAWFUL USE OF GIF WILL BE FOR COMPUSERVE-RELATED PRODUCTS. Using GIF images in any other manner, such as on CD-ROMs or bulletin board systems, is prohibited. Most of the thousands of products that have used GIF in some manner are henceforth contraband. 3. Developers may no longer "use, copy, modify or distribute the GIF specification, except as expressly permitted by CompuServe." This states that the GIF specification can no longer be shared, published or uploaded in any manner without the express consent of CompuServe. 4. Members of the public are prohibited from using any software product containing GIF until they have become a REGISTERED user of the product. The customer also must agree to use the product "primarily for accessing the CompuServe Information Service and for manipulating and viewing data received through the CompuServe Information Service." This virtually eliminates the concept of freeware or shareware containing GIF capabilities, since prospective customers can no longer try out these software products without registering them first. 5. Software developers must pay $1.00 for a license to use GIF, PLUS a fee equal to the GREATER of 1.5% of the selling price of the product, or $0.15 per "Disposition." Disposition is defined as "the sale, lease or license or any other grant of rights to a Product or any new Product." All royalties must be paid quarterly. Noncommercial and freeware usage of GIF technology is NOT exempted from the royalty requirement. Because the royalty provisions and definition of "Disposition" are so broad in scope, it appears that a GIF Tax payment may be due to CompuServe-Unisys each time a GIF image is transmitted via BBS or Internet. The operators of a BBS or World Wide Web site with hundreds or thousands of GIF images online could easily be bankrupted by these licensing requirements. 6. CompuServe must be notified of ANY new product using GIF when it is first offered to customers. 7. Persons using GIF must keep records of its use, and CompuServe has the right to audit those records every year upon seven days notice. Persons using GIF must pay the cost of the audit if a royalty underpayment of 10% or more is discovered, along with 12% interest on any underpaid royalties. 8. Even if the patent is later found by the courts or the U.S. Patent Office to be invalid and unenforcable, or if the patent expires, any developer must "return all copies of the GIF specification and any confidential information of CompuServe then in its possession or control to CompuServe, (ii) stop using the Licensed Technology, and (iii) stop distributing Products." This states that EVEN IF THE PATENT IS OVERTURNED OR EXPIRES, YOU MUST STOP USING OR DISTRIBUTING GIF. 9. Even though CompuServe has publicly disseminated the text of the agreement it wants GIF users to sign, the terms of the agreement are to remain confidential. This is illogical, to say the least, since they have posted it for public download on their own system. 10. Developers have to indemnify and hold CompuServe harmless for any damages if their CUSTOMERS somehow use GIF technology in a way not permitted by the licensing agreement. 11. Unisys has the right to enforce the agreement, as well as CompuServe. Further, Unisys has the right to pursue legal action or seek damages against Developers even after the agreement has terminated. TeleGrafix Communicatons Inc. will not sign such a licensing agreement. We think most other software developers, BBS sysops and Web site operators also will refuse to sign. We encourage our colleagues in the online communications community to evaluate the CompuServe-Unisys action, and to lodge appropriate protests directly with those companies. We believe that the CompuServe-Unisys GIF Tax drives a stake through the heart of Internet development. It will cripple the World Wide Web, NCSA Mosaic, and other Internet multimedia technologies that rely heavily on GIF imaging. Fortunately, we at TeleGrafix Communications do not depend on GIF imaging in our new RIPscrip 2.0 online multimedia technologies. We chose to implement the JPEG image format and only recently decided to add GIF support as a convienience to our customers. Due to the restrictive conditions of the CompuServe-Unisys GIF Tax and licensing agreement, we must now reevaluate our plans for supporting GIF use in the upcoming release of RIPscrip 2.0. While our company hopes to profit financially from our advanced RIPscrip 2.0 technology, we will not demand royalties from those who have used the freeware versions of our earlier RIPscrip 1.54 products and/or technical specifications. The RIPscrip 2.0 specification also will be made public for third-party use after it is finalized. We expect that the CompuServe-Unisys action will spell the death of GIF as a commercially viable technology, shifting the attention of the online communications community to JPEG imaging. Sincerely, Pat Clawson President & Chief Executive Officer TeleGrafix Communications Inc. Huntington Beach, CA Voice: (714) 379-2140 Fax: (714) 379-2132 BBS: (714) 379-2133 Internet: rip.support@telegrafix.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The folks at America OnLine must be a bit disgruntled by this news also since a large number of users on that system have GIFs on file for display to the persons they are talking to in the chat rooms, etc. I don't know how many times I have been on Compuserve, for example in the CB program and had someone ask me if I had a GIF of myself they could view, etc. This does seem like very bad news for the online community. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Thompson, Dave Subject: Pinouts on RS232 and Echoed Back Characters Date: Tue, 03 Jan 95 02:46:00 PST I've been out of the office and am amazed to see no followup to this, so: In Telecom DIGEST 14.422, 21 Nov 1994 02:07:33 -0500, William Ono asks: > If anyone has the list of pinouts for the RS232 style port, could they > please mail it to me? (news is flakey at my site..) I am using a > DB25 connector, but a DB9 pinouts list would also be helpful (I'm sure > I can dig up a conversion chart almost anywhere). Partly from memory and partly from McNamara 1ed 1977 (!) (one of the few books unpacked after a recent office move) the RS-232 (now -D) STANDARD, to which an "RS-232 style port" should comply IN RELEVANT PARTS, was: 1 Frame Ground 2 Tx data (SD) 3 Rx data (RD) 4 Request To Send 5 Clear To Send 6 Data Set Ready 7 Signal Ground 8 Data Carrier Detect 11,12 apparently used by Bell 202C but not standardized 14 Secondary aka Reverse Tx Data 15 Tx clock from DCE 16 Secondary/Reverse Rx Data 17 Rx clock from DCE 20 Data Terminal Ready 22 Ring Indicator 24 Tx clock from DTE You should also find this somewhere in the manual for almost any decent external modem or indeed serial card. > Also, I was just wondering -- is it possible to echo a character from > the Send Data pin to the Receive Data pin by simply fusing the two > pins together? I mean, if I wanted to just send everything back to > the computer that has been sent down the Send Data line, could I just > connect RD to SD, or do I need to do some processing first? Yes, you can just connect RD to SD, IF: 1) For a direct cable, the out + back distance = 2 * length (and the load of the two receivers combined) does not exceed the source (computer?) end line-driver capacity, typically 50-100ft for faster speeds (19.2, 38.4) and up to thousands of feet for 300, 1200 etc.; for modems or other active equipment each end must already be able to drive a good signal to the other, which is all that is needed, but unless the modems etc. are regenerating (e.g. an ISDN line through a TA) or error-correcting, any noise or timing distortion created on the way out will be added to (probably doubled) on the way back, which may be too much for correct/reliable transmission; AND 2) You DON'T send any data in at the remote end, that is, the ONLY data sent back on SD is that received on RD. If you try to connect RD plus a local RS232 driver to SD, the (actually or virtually) remote driver and the local one will fight each other to death. Thus the only practical use I can see for this is if you are sending a data stream to an output-only device (such as a printer or recorder) which is too dumb to detect and report errors, and you want to confirm that the correct data reached it: if the computer receives an echo that is the same as it sent, either the data actually reached the device's input port correctly, or any errors that occurred on the output path were matched by exactly complementary errors on the return path, which is possible but quite unlikely. However if the echo doesn't match it doesn't mean that the data was definitely NOT delivered correctly, only that it's doubtful; the error could have occurred only on the return path. Also, just because the data was delivered to the end of the cable doesn't assure it was necessarily printed correctly or whatever. And this assumes your computer's serial interface is set up so that it doesn't drop input characters as a result of buffer shortage or software timing problems (causing spurious mismatches), and doesn't echo its input back to its output (as terminal port drivers do on many systems, giving an infinite loop). If you want to return an echo of the received data and also send in data, you need at least to convert the RS232 to and from logic levels e.g. TTL and run them through an AND gate (assuming logic "true" = RS232 "mark"); but with this simple implementation, assuming you are sending characters in the normal fashion (ASCII) if you try to send in data (e.g. begin typing on the terminal) while receiving, the (serialized) characters (codes) will be be garbled; this is effectively what happened in the old days of current-loop Teletypes for telegraph/cable. An alternative would be if both(?) pieces of equipment support some control signals (typically DTR/DSR or RTS/CTS/DCD) and the cable is wired, or modems etc. are capable, to pass them through (e.g. modems use true switched carrier so DCD output at the remote end follows RTS at the computer end). You could then use a couple of logic gates or a 2-1 multiplexer to feed into the SD driver either the received (computer) data or the locally generated data depending on which has its "control" line active, optionally with provision to arbitrate the contention if both are active simultaneously. The next level would be to deserialize RD and echo the characters back into the send serializer, which would typically mean OR'ing or selecting (multiplexing) the UART parallel output, or a buffered copy of it, with the e.g. keyboard data lines, into the UART parallel input, probably with interlock/overrun logic to prevent trying to send while the UART is busy/full. ------------------------------ From: ERU.ERUDYG@memo4.ericsson.se Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 19:46:00 +0100 Subject: Erlang Capacit I am looking for information about Erlang Capacity Calculations for land line based telecom networks. My main question is this: In cellular, typical system design is according to Erlang B or Erlang C traffic tables, and designed for 2% blocking (.02 G.O.S., Grade Of Service). Is this the same for land line?, local PSTN? long distance trunks? international trunks? etc. Any information or source of information for this would be useful. Dan Goldberg ------------------------------ From: ai093@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Murray) Subject: Phone Fraud - PBXs Reply-To: ai093@freenet.carleton.ca (Paul Murray) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:01:46 GMT Last year the TV show, 60 minutes, did a feature on phone fraud in the US. They estimated it was costing US phone customers, especially businesses with PBxs, billions of dollars because of fraudulent use by hackers. More recently, CBC Radio in Canada did a news story on phone fraud in which they said a Ministry of the Ontario government had been hacked for $50,000 in one month. Is this becoming a major problem for business everywhere? I'd be interested to hear of incidents as I may know of a solution. Paul J. Murray [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It is a very major problem. Let's hear your solution. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Al Niven <71742.1665@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Phillipines Service Downtime Date: 4 Jan 1995 02:22:02 GMT Organization: Video, Voice, ~ Data, Inc. Anybody with ATT service to the Phillipines that experienced downtime between 12/3/94 and today please email or call collect at: 310-273-5891 or 310-273-5175 or 310-453-1414 (ask for Mike Lieber at this number) Thank You. Al Niven, Video, Voice, & Data, Inc. 212-714-3531 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What's going on, if you don't mind discussing it here? PAT] ------------------------------ From: vidur@world.std.com (vidur kapoor) Subject: Netcom in Boston Area Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:26:34 GMT I would like to know the telephone number (voice) for Netcom in the Boston area. Thanks, Vidur ------------------------------ From: snh1@cornell.edu (Sanjay Hiranandani) Subject: Cellular Direct Number Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 16:06:45 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Network Resources A while ago someone on this group posted a number for Cellular Direct and/or some other mail order source for cellular phones and accessories. Does anyone still have those numbers handy? ------------------------------ From: ccappuc@sefl.satelnet.org (Chris Cappuccio) Subject: It's Not Tenex Anymore ... Date: 3 Jan 1995 19:24:36 -0500 Organization: Public Access in Ft. Lauderdale - SatelNET (305) 587-1930 I haven't seen anything on comp.dcom.telecom about this before so I will explain what I know ... 10XXX codes are being changed to 1010XXX (e.g. AT&T @ 10288 is now 1010288) and new carriers are being assigned to 1015XXX to 1016XXX. I don't know how the rest of it is going to be assigned, but this change is quite interesting. It was planned sometime in 1993 and I don't know when it was actually implemnted, but it already works if you dial 1010XXX around Michigan (at least with Ameritech, I don't know if some of the smaller 'alternative' carriers in mid-michigan have adapted to this yet). I imagine that 10XXX dialing will be discontinued sometime in the future (or at least there will never be any 101XX codes) If anyone else has information on this subject, please post it! Peace, Chris ------------------------------ From: naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 00:14:43 MET What kind of noise/distortion does American-style bit-robbing cause to voice band signals transmitted through PCM channels? (The reason I ask is that I wonder how much bit-robbing affects V.34 modems.) Christian 'naddy' Weisgerber, Germany naddy@mips.pfalz.de ------------------------------ From: qlanus@sigg.com (Quinn Lanus) Subject: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? Organization: The Signature Group Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:47:45 GMT I have a requirement which calls for encrypting the data which crosses our T-1. I would prefer this to occur "transparently" with respect to existing equipment installed. Has anyone heard of a product which can do this? Thanks in advance, Quinn Lanus qlanus@sigg.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:11:06 EST From: Daniel Ritsma Subject: Where Does ISDN Fit In? When talking about telecommunications in computer-networking, people often talk about t-1,2,3 or other type of line that specifically define the bandwith of the connection. What about ISDN, how do you fit that in these terms? What is the standard bandwith of ISDN, and how is it when you only use it for computer-data transfer when we speak about t-1s. Is it like an 15kHz analoge line, that is used for Radio Signal transfer. In short when do I use ISDN, over other alternatives? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: Dharshana P. Jayasuriya Subject: Need Information on IS-54 Date: 3 Jan 1995 15:44:52 GMT Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway I would appreciate very much if someone can recommend a good book or some other material which has sufficient information on the architecture and protocols of the US digital standard IS 54. Is it possible to buy a copy of the standard itself? (I mean not the whole thousands of pages but a summary.) Or is it strictly proprietary? Thanks in advance, Dharshana Jayasuriya, Dept.of computer systems and telematics, Norwegian Institute of technology, Trondheim, Norway ------------------------------ From: psukhu@Starbase.ingress.com (Patrick Sukhu) Subject: What Magazines Do You Read? Date: 2 Jan 1995 00:38:28 GMT Organization: Ingress Communications (info@ingress.com) What are some of your favorite telecom magazines that you read? Thanks, Patrick [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You mean of course, in addition to everyone's favorite, TELECOM Digest? :) PAT] ------------------------------ From: mpd@adc.com (Matthew P. Downs) Subject: Information Needed on Munich32 Chip Date: 3 Jan 1995 14:26:28 GMT Organization: ADC Telecommunications I need some help with a chip made by Siemens the Munich32. We are trying to run it in HDLC and have some problems. If any one has used this, any pointers would be appreciated. Matt ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #2 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa23168; 4 Jan 95 2:31 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA29538; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:13:03 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA29531; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:13:00 CST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:13:00 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501040413.AA29531@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #3 TELECOM Digest Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:13:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 3 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: FM Subcarrier For Data Transmission (Gene Retske) Re: FM Subcarrier For Data Transmission (Wm. Randolph Franklin) Re: 19 Inch Network Relay Rack (Evan Gamblin) Re: 19 Inch Network Relay Rack (Mike Morris) Re: 19 Inch Network Relay Rack (Robert Hazen) Re: 19 Inch Network Relay Rack (Scott Falke) Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T (Jim Hupf) Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T (Steve Cogorno) Re: Cellphone Radiation Danger? (Steven King) Re: Cellphone Radiation Danger? (Alan Shen) Re: Watching the Area Codes Split (Sean E. Williams) Re: Watching the Area Codes Split (Mike Morris) Re: '500' Numbers Finally Available (Dave Levenson) Re: Prepaid Telephone Debit Cards (Gerry Gollwitzer) Re: Newbridge Channel Bank (Ethan Henry) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gene Retske Subject: Re: FM Subcarrier For Data Transmission Date: 3 Jan 1995 14:02:48 GMT Organization: Tachyon Communications Corporation -- Tach-Net PAT, you wrote: > In my phone box in the basement there are pairs going back to the > telephone exchange ... a distance of some three thousand feet. So let's > attach the antenna from our old Philco receiver turned transmitter to > one of the pairs ... no one will ever know the difference, seriously. > RF can travel on the phone pair; it gets along fine with telco's thing. > So we found an idle pair and hooked it up. This may work, but did you really connect the output of a tube type receiver to telephone pairs? This is very dangerous and, in my opinion, irresponsible. If the DC blocking capacitor in this old receiver were to short, which is highly likely, you could deliver a lethal shock to an unsuspecting telephone worker. I normally enjoy your commentaries, but I object to you publishing information that could be so deadly! Please think about how many children and unsophisicated adults could read this and jeopardize someone's life. Shame! Gene Retske [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, for all of about 30 minutes. You are correct it is not a very good idea. I certainly would not put up something like that on a regular or permanent basis. PAT] ------------------------------ From: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin) Subject: Re: FM Subcarrier For Data Transmission Date: 4 Jan 1995 01:40:52 GMT Organization: ECSE Dept, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY, 12180 USA Reply-To: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin) Ramsey, and possibly other kit makers, sell kits to decode SCA transmissions. The Ramsay ones cost from $28 to $60. The lo end is for only an SCA kit. The hi end is for an FM receiver kit also, and a case. I bought a Ramsey kit for a lo powered FM transmitter, to transmit my CD player around the house, and was quite satisfied with it. It was better than Heathkit, IMHO. If I'd known about their TV transmitter kit, I wouldn't have had to pull coax thru my heating ducts. According to Ramsey, these things are legal provided you don't interfere with anyone. Ramsey Electronics 793 Canning Parkway Victor NY 14564 (716) 924-4560 I found out about them from a 373-line list posted to sci.electronics some time ago. If you'd like it, to minimize traffic on this group, I put it up on the Web. It's accessible indirectly from my home page, or directly at: http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/wrf/mailorder_electronics Wm. Randolph Franklin, wrf@ecse.rpi.edu, (518) 276-6077; Fax: -6261 ECSE Dept., 6026 JEC, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst, Troy NY, 12180 USA More info: (1) finger -l wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (2) http://www.ecse.rpi.edu/wrf.html ------------------------------ From: egamblin@ott.hookup.net (Evan Gamblin) Subject: Re: 19 Inch Network Relay Rack Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 12:50:25 -0500 Organization: Mary Ellen Carter Salvors Inc. In article , jpoulin@nt.com wrote: > I need help of a person who know a US or Canadian supplier (name and > phone number) for the following type of equipment: Standard 19 inch widths > open frame rack (network relay rack with universal EIA hole spacing) > certified for earthquake Zone 4 (california). Saunders Brothers in Santa Fe Springs, CA: 310 945-1038 voice, 698-6510 fax. Evan Gamblin, RCDD The Halifax Group 903-275 Sparks St Ottawa, Ontario K1R 7X9 Canada ------------------------------ From: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Mike Morris) Subject: Re: 19 Inch Network Relay Rack Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:38:33 GMT Call Harris-Dracon in Chatsworth, Calif. Don't know the number of the top of my head, but 818 information should have it. Mike Morris WA6ILQ PO Box 1130 Arcadia, CA. 91077 ICBM: 34.12N, 118.02W Reply to: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us ------------------------------ From: supra@pnw.net (Robert Hazen) Subject: Re: 19 Inch Network Relay Rack Date: 03 Jan 1995 19:05:05 -0800 Organization: Pacific Northwest Net jpoulin@nt.com wrote: > I need help of a person who know a US or Canadian supplier (name and > phone number) for the following type of equipment: Standard 19 inch widths > open frame rack (network relay rack with universal EIA hole spacing) > certified for earthquake Zone 4 (california). Pardon? Nobody at Northern Telecom knows where to obtain these? Really? Naaaahh... :) If you don't have answers by 1/9/95, remind me via email. I'll be back to work then where I can look up our suppliers. We sell equipment into California that has been certified to Bellcore TR-EOP-000063 zone four seismic requirements. I'm sure I can help you out. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:35:41 -0800 From: scott@csustan.csustan.edu (Scott Falke) Subject: Re: 19 Inch Network Relay Rack Organization: CSU Stanislaus Two manufacturers of 19" racks are: Hoffmannn Engineering @ 612 421-2240 fx-1556, and Hammond Manufacturing @ 716 631-5700 fx-1156. As for seismic rating, Hoffmann makes a lot of specials, but any rating would be absolutely dependent on the rack load; i.e., what's mounted in it. This may have to be indpendently determined by a third party, meaning mucho bux. If you can't get anywhere on this, *as time permits* I would be willing to do some minor research on the subject. scott@csustan.csustan.edu ------------------------------ From: Jhupf Subject: Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 20:20:23 EST Organization: News & Observer Public Access On Thu, 29 Dec 1994, Alan Boritz wrote: Paul Robinson writes: >> I would recommend to the father that he call his local telephone >> company and tell them to switch service back to MCI; don't even >> mention this check to the son; assuming anyone even notices, if AT&T >> complains, ask for a copy of the signed order from the subscriber. This is not necessary -- I got to the local telco before they made the change! As suggested below at the time I put the local telco on notice NOT to make any changes in my LD carrier without my authorization (for what good that will do, but they are on written notice to that effect.) > And who's going to pay for the PIXC change? His lazy son? The son is not lazy, he has two jobs and is paying off $22,000+ in student loans -- he appreciated getting teh Xmas present from AT&T (;-> >> The son is not the subscriber and has no authority to change the >> service. It is not your position to prove you didn't authorize it, >> it's theirs to prove they have an authorization from someone who can >> issue the authorization. That's what I told my phone company and they understood where I was coming from. > But it's not going to stop AT&T from issuing ANOTHER PIXC change just > like the did the first unauthorized change. The subscriber should > first issue an order to the local telco to not accept account changes > from anyone but HIM. As I said above I did that before the bogus change could be put in effect! >> Or just ignore the whole thing and dial 10222 to get MCI before every >> call, which is what I used to do when I wanted to use AT&T on the line >> I had switched to MCI in order to get the free bag from them; I dialed >> 10288 to get AT&T before calls, or I just use the other line which is >> still on AT&T. It's not in me to ignore anything like this, and besides how would I be able to accumulate more MCI Points to get me a free Round-Trip Coach-Class ticket on American Airlines (;-> while I rack up all of the Friends and Family savings! > Absolutely do NOT ignore it. Slamming is a sleazy way of doing long > distance business, and no one should have to put up with it. State > public utilities regulatory agencies are usually interested in > investigating such incidents. The father should file a simple > complaint against his local telco requesting that they be ordered to > change his PIXC back to the original LD carrier, that AT&T be charged > for all costs associated with the PIXC changes, and that the local > telco be ordered to refund to the subscriber any additional long > distance charges (and lost discounts) due to the unauthorized change. Even though there was nothing to complain to the state about the local phone company -- they were very cooperative with my concerns and I guess the fact that they may be facing direct local competition in my area may have had some influence on wanting to make sure I was a happy camper! (For other reasons it is my intention to drop them like a hot potato(e) when the new phone company makes their first contact with me!) I did drop a note to the state about this matter for whatever that is worth as well as sending a copy to the FCC, again for whatever tha is worth. I also will be discussing it with a consumer affairs specialt in the State Attorney General's Office of Consumer Protection early in the New Year when I meet with her concerning some sleezy advertising practices the local Cable company has been into - (Since the new phone company is running a fiber optic line, I wonder if I might be able to dump the Cable company too??? (8->>> The thought that I might be able to give it to two "Evil Giants" with one stone!) Jim Hupf Permanently Unemployed by Choice jhupf@nando.net jhupf@nyx.cs.du.edu j.hupf@genie.geis.com ------------------------------ From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno) Subject: Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:29:53 PST John D. Borrows said: > In article , Jhupf wrote: >> Now my son is one of those adult children who happened to return to >> our empty nest. He takes full advantage of his return to the nest >> including the use of MY telephone, he doesn't now have a phone he can >> call his own, nor for that matter has he ever been a customer of any >> phone company. But still Ray Drake in his generosity has decided to >> give him 40 bucks for Christmas -- hold on there are strings seems when >> the kid cashed the check he changed _MY_ LD carrier from MCI to AT&T! >> This annoyed me because I'm happy with MCI and don't want AT&T as my >> LD carrier! > WAIT, where your LD goes is a matter between you and your local > telephone company. They will presubscribe you to whomever you direct > them to. All you have to do is contact them and tell them you want > MCI. There may be a charge for the change. They are not in a > position to arbitrate any dispute between you and AT&T (or you and It may be a matter between the LEC and the customer, but as soon as AT&T finds out that the Easy Access carrier has been changed, they will issue an order to change it right back. I would call the LEC (in my case Pacific Bell) and tell them AT&T is "slamming" your line. When they hear "slam" they take your complaint very seriously. Tell them you want a password on your account, and not to authorize any changes made without that password. You might want to call AT&T up and tell them you don't appreciate them slamming your line. (Their ears perk up nicely when they hear "slam" too). Steve cogorno@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: king@wildebeest.cig.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist) Subject: Re: Cellphone Radiation Danger? Date: 3 Jan 1995 15:25:00 GMT Organization: Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There has been discussion of this topic > here in these very columns in the past. Generally speaking, it is a > non-issue. It takes a lot more power than a cellphone antenna can > radiate before it matters. If John Higdon sees this, he may well decide > to respond. He did so the last time this topic arose here. He has worked > around RF radiation for years, and lots of it at that. PAT] So, PAT, is this an argument *for* or *against* brain damage due to RF? (Just kidding, John. This one was too good to let by. :-) Steven King -- Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When this came up last year, someone said John Higdon had a bald head caused by his hair falling out which was caused by his proximity to the radiation, etc. John protested that he did not have a bald head. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Alan Shen Subject: Re: Cellphone Radiation Danger? Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:40:23 -0800 Organization: University of Washington On 29 Dec 1994, Chuck Campbell wrote: > Someone told me that cellular telephones have antenna radiation > danger, being in such close proximity to the brain. Is there any > discussion or literature regarding such claims, or can they all be > immediately dismissed as garbage? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There has been discussion of this topic > here in these very columns in the past. Generally speaking, it is a > non-issue. It takes a lot more power than a cellphone antenna can > radiate before it matters. If John Higdon sees this, he may well decide > to respond. He did so the last time this topic arose here. He has worked > around RF radiation for years, and lots of it at that. PAT] Let's just say this. Your microwave is more powerful then your cellular phone. The TV gives of EMR. Your computer; a cop using a radar gun. I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, and that isn't what I'm trying to imply here. If you are going to live in fear of radiation, reality says that you'll never escape it. If using a portable phone with the antenna two or so inches (about six cm for your metric people ) away from your brain putting out 0.6 watts (this is according to US Standards. I know other standards put out 10X that much) is going to give you a BRAIN TUMOR, then don't use one! We're thoroughly aware of the fact that it may not be healthy for you. We're taking a chance. Why don't you just buy a mobile phone and put the antenna 20 feet away from you. That'll *technically* get rid of anyone's radiation worries. Daniel Kao ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jan 1995 14:49:36 -0500 From: Sean E. Williams Subject: Re: Watching the Area Codes Split John Lundgren wrote: > Someday there might just be a database that has your name, and the number > associated with it, and all people will have to do is punch up your name, > and not have to worry about a number. And it will be current. Just like the internet Domain Name System. It could have been implemented years ago, and then we wouldn't be having all the problems associated with the NANP -- your neighbor could be in a different area code, and you wouldn't even have to know or care, so long as you could remember his name! How about a system which provides a menu of available options? Start out by entering a person's name. Okay, so there are thousands of "Jim Smiths" in the US. At first, you are presented with the one who lives closest to you (the city / street would be displayed) or you could specify a specific location at the start if you are calling a "Jim Smith" who lives several states away. When you finally select the appropriate "Jim Smith", a menu appears listing the following options: home, cellular, pager, fax, data, etc. Select the option you wish, and you are connected to that service. I don't know much about ISDN, but it's probably capable of doing this right now if the appropriate software were to be written. Sean E. Williams (sean@epix.net) Harrisburg Area Community College, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, USA Mobile/Voicemail/Pager: +1 717 580-5187 FAX: +1 717 834-5236 ------------------------------ From: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Mike Morris) Subject: Re: Watching the Area Codes Split Organization: College Park Software, Altadena, CA Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 02:36:44 GMT wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) writes: > In article Neal McLain edu> writes: >> My question: given that all three cities are centers of rapidly-growing >> metro areas, why not a three-way split: >> Nashville retains 615. >> Knoxville gets 423. >> Chattanooga gets something else. > Suppose area code 666 is to be asigned somewhere, maybe in the Bible > Belt. (there's some sort of connection with 666 with the devil). > Just imagine all the complaints you'll hear if this happens. The perfect location for area code 666 is Washington DC. Give the entire code to the federal government. Keep all the non-goverment stuff in the old area code. Mike Morris WA6ILQ PO Box 1130 Arcadia, CA. 91077 ICBM: 34.12N, 118.02W | Reply to: morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We went through this once before, a couple years ago, and someone posted a list of all the places where the 666 exchange appeared around the USA, in which area codes, etc, and if there were any special users such as centrex accounts, etc on them. It seems to me somewhere some government offices were on 666 in that area code; maybe it was the IRS, I'm not sure. In Chicago, MONroe, MOnroe-6 and 666 has been a working exchange on the west side of Chicago for seventy years or more. In the old days when it was Monroe (and in fact there is a central office named for it, called 'Chicago-Monroe') no one seemed to notice it. Now pronounced 'six six six', a few people get sore about being assigned to it. Until they changed to the new number 312-TAXICAB a couple years ago, the Yellow/Checker Taxi radio dispatch office had the longest term number of any business in Chicago: 666-3700, which they held for seventy-plus years along with their other number of equal longevity for radio dispatched cabs, CALumet-6000. In my collection of pictures from Chicago's past, I have a picture of a Model-J Ford, taken about 1915, with the inscription on the side, 'Yellow Taxicab Service, Monroe 3700'. The devil you say! :) PAT] ------------------------------ From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Re: '500' Numbers Finally Available Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 15:53:48 GMT Jack Hamilton (jfh@crl.com) writes: [regarding 500 service from AT&T] > - They count the number of times per day you change the forwarding phone, > and if you exceed that number something happens (I don't know what). How can the number of times per day you change the forwarding phone exceed the number of times per day you change the forwarding phone? Was Jack trying to say that they impose a limit? Does anybody know what it is? Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 ------------------------------ From: gerryg@earth.execpc.com (Gerry Gollwitzer) Subject: Re: Prepaid Telephone Debit Cards Date: 03 Jan 1995 16:57:17 GMT Organization: Exec-PC Kevin J. Sullivan (ksully@telerama.lm.com) wrote: > I'm looking for information on setting up a business selling prepaid > calling cards. Is there anyone who knows what you need to do this? I > have heard it is relatively easy, however I'd like to know some > specific details. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think you'll find there are so many > people doing this -- as well as selling long distance in general through > various multi-level marketing schemes -- that the profit margin is very > very thin. I think you will work long and hard hours for a very small > commission. PAT] Hmmm ... we are finding the prepaid calling card programs to be very lucrative, especially for fund raising and company promotions. Gerry [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, let me know which company you are selling for, and something about the profit you are making on them if you don't mind. I may start handling it again. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:31:03 EST From: ehenry@Newbridge.COM (Ethan Henry) Subject: Re: Newbridge Channel Bank Organization: Crosskeys Systems Corporation In article is written: > tague@cwinc.win.net (Michael Tague) wrote: >> where is the Newbridge company located (or phone number)? > The listing in the new Dallas Yellow Pages shows the following: > [deleted] > I think this is the home office. If not they should be able to give > you the number. Gosh, I hope it's not the home office. The engineers are going to have an awfully long commute from their homes in Ottawa ... Newbridge's HQ is in Kanata, Ontario, but here is a list of their sales offices I got off of a '4602 MainStreet' poster. UNITED STATES Newbridge Networks Inc 593 Herndon Parkway Herndon, Virginia U.S.A. 22070-5241 Tel. 1 800 343-3600 1 703 834-3600 FAX 1 703 471-7080 CANADA Newbridge Networks Corporation 5580 Explorer Drive Suite 100 Mississauga, Ontario Canada L4W 4Y1 Tel. 1 416 238-5214 FAX 1 416 238-0581 LATIN AMERICA ASIA PACIFIC & RUSSIA Newbridge Networks Corporation 600 March Road P.O. Box 13600 Kanata, Ontario Canada K2K 2E6 Tel. 1 613 591-6300 FAX 1 613 599-3611 There's also an address in the UK. Newbridge has (I believe) local sales offices in various large cities, but I don't know anything about these. DISCLAIMER: Don't believe my email address, I don't work for Newbridge. Nice company though it is, I work across the street, at Crosskeys. Ethan Henry ehenry@newbridge.com CrossKeys Systems Corporation ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #3 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa24683; 4 Jan 95 3:25 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA01122; Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:29:11 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA01114; Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:29:07 CST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:29:07 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501040529.AA01114@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #4 TELECOM Digest Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:29:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 4 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: British Telecom Information Superhighway (Yves Blondeel) Re: Portability of 800 Number When Bill Not Paid (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Telephone Tariffs for 1995 California (John Covell) Re: What is a T1 Line? (James Carlson) Re: Handshaking: Computer-Computer or Modem-Computer? (Alain Fontaine) Re: NYNEX Ringmate and Modems (Steve Cogorno) Re: Flat Rate Cellular Phone Service (Jim Hupf) Re: Need Info on LD Marketing to College Students (Benjamin L. Combee) Re: Its Here Again! FCC/Modem Tax (Jerry Whelan) Re: Information Wanted on NEC 2000 Switch (chazworth@aol.com) Re: GSM in U.S. (Lynne Gregg) Re: How to Find Your Number (Greg Tompkins) Looking for Pager Operators for Tampa/Ft. Myers Area (Mark Huang) Phone Card Reader Wanted (Keith Jason Uber) Last Laugh! IBM Buys Episcopal Church (John Shaver) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yves Blondeel Subject: Re: British Telecom Information Superhighw Date: 3 Jan 1995 12:32:20 GMT Organization: FUNDP, Namur, Belgium etxhbt@tnll.eua.ericsson.se (Henrik Bergqvist) wrote: > In article 2@eecs.nwu.edu, Yves Blondeel > writes: >> The prohibition only applies to the delivery of entertainment >> services directly to residential customers as end-users in a local >> loop. The conveyance of signals within the network, for example to >> cable TV head-ends and also to individual business users, is permitted. > What is the definition of entertainment services? There is no formal definition of entertainment services. This is left to interpretation by the regulatory authorities (Department of Trade and Industry and Office of Telecommunications - OFTEL). These two authorities have shied away from formulating rigid definitions. Relevant reading material on this subject: March 1991 White Paper (see my previous posting). OFTEL Annual Report 1993 (available from OFTEL for 15 pounds). > Is there a difference in the regulation between point-to-point > services and broadcast services? There is no formal distinction from a *telecommunications* regulatory point of view. However, a broadcasting service would fall under the specific broadcasting regulations in addition to telecoms regulations. The Independent Television Commission (ITC) would be involved. > What would the regulatory issues be if the PTO (i.e. BT) only made > the bit transport service to the residence and another company > provided the actual service (e.g. videoserver)? In my opinion, in the case you suggest, the PTO would NOT be providing "entertainment services in their own right" since it would have no involvement on the entertainment side. I invite comments on this opinion. Yves Blondeel yves.blondeel@fundp.ac.be (e-mail address will change) ------------------------------ From: producer@pipeline.com (Judith Oppenheimer) Subject: Re: Portability of 800 Number When Bill Not Paid Date: 3 Jan 1995 15:22:18 -0500 Organization: The Pipeline Portabilty isn't in the regs. Portability was an FCC ruling in response to a carrier application. There is nothing in the original ruling about billing disputes. Beyond that, it depends who the carrier in question is, and the tariff (contract with the customer) under which they operate. For example, the AT&T tariff says 800 portability can only be blocked if there is in excess of $1000 in UNDISPUTED billing unpaid. J. Oppenheimer, Producer@Pipeline.com Interactive CallBrand(TM) ------------------------------ From: senator@well.sf.ca.us (John Covell) Subject: Re: Telephone Tariffs for 1995 California Date: 3 Jan 1995 03:32:29 GMT Organization: University of San Francisco In article jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) writes: >> Where might I find a listing of the new tariffs that will be effective >> 1995? Is there a California PUC Web site? The CPUC has only a gopher site so far as I know: cpuc.ca.gov John Covell McLaren School of Business University of San Francisco ------------------------------ From: carlson@xylogics.com (James Carlson) Subject: Re: What is a T1 Line? Date: 3 Jan 1995 13:17:52 GMT Organization: Xylogics Incorporated Reply-To: carlson@xylogics.com In article , jhallen@world.std.com (Joseph H Allen) writes: >> In article , James Carlson > com> wrote: >>> In article , mpd@adc.com (Matthew P. Downs) >>> writes: >>>> These filters are not to limit your modem >>>> speeds, but to protect you 64 kbps channel from others. So you don't >>>> hear the cross talk on your line! >>> Not quite; there's no way one DS0 can interfere with another, and >>> there's no such thing as cross-talk at the digital level. >> Wrong; digital is always a statistical quantity in this analog world. >> Cross-talk certainly is possible between digital lines. If you put >> two wires next to each other, there is always some amount of >> cross-talk between them. As the cross-talk interference increases, >> the probability of a pulse being screwed up (or the digital error >> rate) increases. I'm afraid you'll have to re-read what I wrote. There is no such thing as "cross-talk" at the *digital* level. One DS0 channel cannot affect another within a T1 line; there just is no path for this to happen. Any signal at all can be carried on a DS0, and the others will be blissfully unaware that it exists. They are separated in time. Of course, digital signals are carried in the analog world, and, thus, the analog representation of the digital signal is possibly subject to cross-talk. This could increase the error rate if you've got multiple physical wires which are magnetically or capacitively coupled. But it won't appear as "cross-talk" in the traditional sense, since it would affect clock recovery and framing as well as the encoded data. >> In fact Pulse Code Modulation (digital) without any error detection >> has almost the same interference properties as FM radio. If two FM >> stations are close, there will be noise. If they are really close, >> you'll hear both stations at once and lots of noise. The two are very different. PCM is a digital signal; if you can recover it from the noise on the line, you'll get a "perfect" copy of the data. Line hits will produce a decidedly non-analog type of noise, with random data points being generated. To produce traditional "cross-talk" effects, you'd have to do an arithmetic average on the values of the data points between two lines. This is highly unlikely to occur. If you had two AMI lines next to each other, you'd need to have the extraneous cross-talk signal exceed the pulse detection threshold of the receivers in order to be able to detect *anything* at all. Anything below this value would simply be invisible at the digital level. FM, due to the nature of analog demodulation techniques, exhibits a capture effect. If two signals are broadcast on the same frequency, the "louder" signal will be heard to the exclusion of the "quieter" signal. You won't hear both stations at once. If the received amplitude of the two signals are varying with respect to each other, then all sorts of interesting effects (depending on the type of demodulation used) occur, but hearing both at once isn't one of the options. >>> The analog filters are there to prevent aliasing, which is an objectionable >>> beat frequency which appears in the spectrum when the Nyquist limit is >>> exceeded by any component of the signal. >> There's a 4KHz low pass filter before the A/D converter for this. Right. And it has nothing to do with cross-talk, which was the poster's original assertion. >> There's also a ~100KHz low-pass filter between the A/D converter and >> the line to limit the edge rate of the digital pulses. Cross-talk is >> more severe at higher frequencies, so limiting the unnecessary high- >> frequencies caused by fast edges helps reduce cross-talk. Any filter placed in the DS0 data path after quantization and before multiplexing has no effect on the bandwidth of the signal that the user of that DS0 sees. This has nothing to do with the poster's original statements. James Carlson Tel: +1 617 272 8140 Annex Software Support / Xylogics, Inc. +1 800 225 3317 53 Third Avenue / Burlington MA 01803-4491 Fax: +1 617 272 2618 ------------------------------ From: fontaine@sri.ucl.ac.be (Alain Fontaine) Subject: Re: Handshaking: Computer-Computer or Modem-Computer? Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 10:14:52 +0100 Organization: Universite Catholique de Louvain In article (Dans l'article) , jon_sree@ world.std.com (Jon Sreekanth) wrote: > Fascinating. If I understand right, the second parallel interface was > required because any character sent on the first would just get modulated > and sent out on the phone line, instead of being interpreted as a > command? Exactly. There was nothing but an frequency-modulated oscillator behind the serial interface (or a more complicated circuit in modems faster than V.23, but still a circuit and no intelligence). > And the intelligent modem breakthru was to make a moded modem, to be > in command mode initially, go into data mode upon carrier detection, > and drop out upon carrier loss or upon seeing the infamous escape > sequence? Is this how Hayes got their start? Right. In article (Dans l'article) , jlundgre@ kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) wrote: > whatever, the dropping of the RTS may not really mean no carrier. It > may just mean to stop sending data from the modem to the PC, and the > carrier may not be affected. In this case, I would call the signal 'Ready to receive' (ITU V.24 circuit 133) instead of RTS. The fact that it is still on pin 4 of an ISO2110 physical interface notwithstanding ... just call me a nitpicker. AF ------------------------------ From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno) Subject: Re: NYNEX Ringmate and Modems Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:17:31 PST John Lundgren said: >> I've called Pac Bell several times and asked when I can get ringmate/ >> and they tell me they have no idea. >> I tell them what it is and they say that the system can't do it. I >> tell them that it has been available all over the country for over a >> year and they are speechless. Is there any other "magic words" I can >> use to enlighten them? If it helps any I'm northeast of downtown L.A. >> by about 12 miles, in the 818-447 exchange. > Ask for a supervisor and pursue the issue. Ive heard it called distinctive > ringing, but it might be called something else by P.B. Whatever you > do, don't give up if you get the same 'idunno' from the stupidvisor. Distinctive Ringing is a _very_ different service; you select up to ten numbers, and your phone will ring with a different cadence when any one of those 10 people call you. Sort of like a poor man's Caller ID. As I posted previously, Pac Bell does not offer "Ringmate" because they perceive that there is a shortage of numbers. Steve cogorno@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Jhupf Subject: Re: Flat Rate Cellular Phone Service Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:32:19 EST Organization: News & Observer Public Access On Thu, 29 Dec 1994, Lawrence The Dreamer Chen wrote: > I don't know how wide spread the service is, but up here (Canada) they > have packages where you get unlimited weekend calling, and for $10 a > month more you get unlimited evening calling (7pm-7am). CelularOne of Triangle here in the Triangle in North Carolina offers full local access on weekends for $10 a month. We were considering going for it until we realized we had an accmulation of more than 575 minutes of local calling credit we haven't been able to use during the past 14 months. Between this balance of "bonus" time and the 60 minutes included in our calling plan we are able to Call, Talk, listen and home rate roam without any significant reduction in our accumulated balances. ------------------------------ From: combee@prism.gatech.edu (Benjamin L. Combee) Subject: Re: Need Info on LD Marketing to College Students Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:24:26 -0500 Organization: ROASF Atlanta Reply-To: combee@prism.gatech.edu In article is written: > I'm researching a magazine article on how the long distance companies > market their services to college students. You would be helping me > considerably by providing me with any of the following information: > o The size (budget, number of employees) of AT&T's, MCI's or Sprint's > student marketing departments. > o Any recent promotions, giveaways or advertising targeting college > students. > o Any weird, frightening or amusing stories or incidents related to > this subject. Hello. I'm down at Georgia Tech, and we've seen a number of different marketing schemes. MCI has been doing a lot: just recently, they came along with lots of other companies to do a Campus Fest where they were pushing their 1-800-COLLECT line. Also, around Thanksgiving, they were handing out hundreds of cards that each gave ten minutes on 1-800-COLLECT using a special code. My roommate last year had a Sprint calling card, and he got several promotions. For Halloween, he got a postcard with a mask on one side that said he could make unlimited free long distance calls for one hour on Halloween night. Tech itself has contracted with Sprint for the LD service in all the dormatories. Most rooms only have local service turned on, but if you want, you can get LD enabled but only with Sprint as your carrier. The housing department gets a kickback on any Sprint calls made from the rooms. I hope these help you out. If you've got more questions, let me know. Name=Ben Combee E-Mail=combee@prism.gatech.edu URL=http://www.gatech.edu/acm/combee.html ------------------------------ From: jerryw@abode.ccd.bnl.gov (Jerry Whelan) Subject: Re: Its Here Again! FCC/Modem Tax Date: 3 Jan 1995 18:47:41 GMT Organization: Brookhaven National Lab, CCD > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, he did not mark it 'not for > publication' and in any event, I think it does us good to air out > this thing once in awhile and re-emphasize the nonsense of it all. PAT] 'Not for publication' ... Take a look at Brock Meeks's `CyberWire Dispatch' at: http://cyberwerks.com:70/0h/cyberwire/cwd/cwd.94.12.09a.html The root of the dispatch tree is at: http://cyberwerks.com:70/1/cyberwire ------------------------------ From: chazworth@aol.com (Chazworth) Subject: Re: Information Wanted on NEC 2000 Switch Date: 3 Jan 1995 00:35:03 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) In article , Jason Davis writes: > I just installed one, nice system. This one was equiped with 256 > ports and three T1 interfaces. SMDR and voice Mail also. Great looking > rack mounted with patch panels. In the interest of keeping this string going: Have you or anyone installed the Ethernet card on the 2000IVS yet? Let me know, I am curious as to how it works, or may work. ------------------------------ From: Lynne Gregg Subject: Re: GSM in U.S. Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 09:46:00 PST jjfai@alertnet.com recently inquired about GSM support in the U.S. Recently McCaw's New York operation, Cellular One began an International Roaming service involving GSM phones. One TD responder to the original post pointed out that there are NO cellular carriers supporting GSM on their U.S. systems. This is absolutely correct. However, if you choose local service with Cellular One in New York, you can retain your GSM unit and can have your GSM calls (if you roam back in Europe) billed back to a single account -- your Cellular One account. If you have questions about this service you can talk to cathy.oshea@ mccaw.com, reply to me, or contact the Cellular One office near you. Best regards, Lynne Gregg ------------------------------ From: gtompk@teleport.com (Greg Tompkins) Subject: Re: How to Find Your Number Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:31:18 GMT Organization: Teleport What is a number beside the 1-800 thing that I can dial? I thought there was one from the local exchange. I can dial 311 and it gives me my phone number. GREG [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It varies from one community to the next. It even varies from one central office to the next in the community. When one gets published or widely known, it gets changed soon thereafter. From time to time here in the Digest we have had lists of these things that had been collected from all over the USA, but time and again about half the numbers on the list were incorrect by the time the list got printed. Really, the only way to find out about this is to ask locally in your own community. The one I gave earlier of 1-800-MY-ANI-IS seems to be the only one that works from anywhere and has been in service for awhile. Our old faithful 1-577-your last four for ringback does not even work here in Skokie any longer as of a month ago. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Mark Huang Subject: Looking for Pager Operators for Tampa/Ft. Myers Area Reply-To: Organization: National Institutes of Health Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 15:04:30 GMT Hi, all: I'm looking for paging system operators interested in 929MHz licenses for Tampa/Fort Myers area. Please call (301) 770-6417 or e-mail: mhuang@capaccess.org. Thx! Mark L. Huang, Ph.D. E-mail: mhuang@capacess.org E-mail: rin0mxw@bumed30.med.navy.mil (expire: 31 January, 1995) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 10:53:31 EDT From: Keith Jason Uber <942576@edna.cc.swin.edu.au> Subject: Phone Card Reader Wanted Pat, Firstly - thank-you for your newsgroup/archives/digest - fantastic reading! I am looking for an article on building a Phone Card Reader that connects to a pc. I saw it two or three days ago when browsing gopher or WWW (I can't remember) and thought "That's cool ... but Australia doesn't use Smart-cards for their phones". The very next day, I met a German exchange student who gave me a German phonecard! Subsequently I've spent about four hours searching through veronica, wwww etc with no luck. Any help or direction would be great ... I intend to modify it to use it as an electronic key to start my car! Thanks again, keith [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, it sounds like an interesting application if it can be done. Let us know how it progresses. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jan 95 11:02:51 MST From: John Shaver Subject: Last Laugh! IBM Buys Episcopal Church For Immediate Release The Chairman of IBM announced today that, in response to Microsoft Corp.'s acquisition of the Roman Catholic Church, IBM has bid for and acquired the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America for $1 billion. "We are the oldest and most prestigious computer company in the world," he said, "and we cannot be seen to be lagging behind in the race for preeminence in the religious software and hardware markets. We have tendered an offer to the Most. Rev. Edmund Browning, Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church and Pamela Chinnis, President of the House of Deputies of General Convention, and they have recommended acceptance to the shareholders / communicants." The Episcopal Church is one of the oldest and most respected denominations in the United States. Many current and former officeholders, including many Presidents, have been communicants. Although its membership was declining in recent years, the latest figures show a slight increase in membership. A combination with IBM will probably be beneficial in terms of putting "fannies in the seats" in Episcopal Churches across the United States. There will also be great benefits to IBM in terms of international connections through the Episcopal Church. The Church is one of the most senior members of the international Anglican communion by way of its separation from the Church of England after the Revolutionary War and the consecration in 1784 of its first Bishop, Samuel Seabury. IBM hopes to gain a foothold in the international religious business through these connections, and perhaps tender a bid for the entire Anglican Communion by the time of the next meeting of the world Anglican bishops in London in 1998 (Lambeth Conference). The Archbishop of Canterbury, The Most Reverend George Carey, could not be reached for comment. IBM and Episcopal Church are "good fit" IBM has had the distinction of being the first and, up until several years ago, the most successful computer company in the world. It was founded by Herman Hollerith, the inventor of the computer card, in the late 1800, and concentrated on business machines such as adding machines and typewriters until the invention of the computer in the 1940. They invested heavily in this new technology, and became rich from selling and maintaining them in the 1950's through 1980's. However, IBM's stodgy corporate culture prevented it from taking advantage of newer technology. It almost entirely missed the value of personal computer technology in the late 1970's, allowing other companies to use processes it developed to make so-called "clone" personal computers. It therefore lost out on the billions of dollars spent on this technology over the past 15 years. IBM has recently spun off its typewriter and printer businesses and concentrated on PC building and software, and has even resorted to layoffs for the first time in its history. The slogan, "No one was ever fired for buying IBM" has become a bitter joke in the business world. The Episcopal Church was, for a long time, considered the most successful of the Protestant Churches in terms of wealth and power. Many of the rich and famous swelled its numbers, and its liturgy was noted for its archaic beauty as much as its treasury was noted for its gilt-edged bonds. However, in recent years, with the dying-off of the elderly rich and the fall in the birth rate among the bluebloods who remained, the Episcopal Church has suffered both a decline in numbers and in influence and wealth. Notwithstanding the slogan, "The Episcopal Church Welcomes You," numbers have only recently begun to increase again as the Church begins to be seen as a place where outcasts can take part in its life. Along with IBM, the Episcopal Church has had to resort to layoffs to balance its budget, and the merger will allow both organizations to trim even further their personnel costs. IBM's chairman said today, "We have been known as the place where the white-coated mystics take charge of computers in sealed rooms. As a direct result of this merger, our white-coated mystic roster will be cut by half and merged with the ordained ministry of the Episcopal Church. After all, they also wear white garments when celebrating their mysteries. The similarities outweigh the differences, and we think that we can bring their white-suited mystics up to speed in JCL and C++ within a few months." The Presiding Bishop and Ms. Chinnis issued a joint statement saying: "We welcome this merger as a meshing of two great but sometimes old-fashioned institutions. The merger will allow us to cut our technical staff by half again, and concentrate our resources on becoming the largest and most successful Protestant Church in the United States. Our first IBM mainframe is already being installed in the basement of 815 Second Avenue, the Episcopal Church Center in New York." They continued: "So that we can assure ourselves that the Apostolic Succession will be continued, the Bishops of the Episcopal Church will lay hands on the Board of IBM in a ceremony at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine in New York City. Then, the entire House of Bishops will travel up to Armonk, where they will be instructed in the use of the personal computer." The business writers of most US newspapers will join the religion correspondents in recording this momentous occasion. Both the business and the religious communities are awaiting the new developments that this historic merger will make possible. His Eminence Bill Gates, had no comment. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #4 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa04467; 4 Jan 95 18:11 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA08053; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:33:20 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA08043; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:33:17 CST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:33:17 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501041433.AA08043@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #5 TELECOM Digest Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:33:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 5 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax (Jack Hamilton) Re: What is a T1 Line? (Joseph H Allen) Re: Britain-Japan Fiber Cable (Wally Ritchie) Re: Finland Data Transmission (Wally Ritchie) NANP 800 Numbers From the UK (Clive D.W. Feather) Cellular Billing Services (Raymond S. VanderBok) Cell One NY/NJ Eliminates Daily Roam Charges (Stan Schwartz) Summary: Telecom Texts (David P. Wiltzius) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfh@crl.com (Jack Hamilton) Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax Date: 3 Jan 1995 23:28:03 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] There have been many articles on this topic posted in the comp.infosystems. www.* groups, You should read all these articles yourself, but a reasonable summary, I think, is this: - Compuserve was charged by Unisys with a patent violation for the LZW compression algorithm used in GIFs. Compuserve had used the algorithm believing it was in the public domain, but in fact Unisys had applied for a patent. - Compuserve decided to license the technology rather than fight the patent. - Compuserve doesn't seem much happier about this than anyone else (except the people at Unisys, I guess). - Unisys clearly seems to be the villain here. - Compuserve has to pay royalties to Unisys. - The patent doesn't apply to GIF files themselves. Here's part of a message from Tim Oren, who claims to be a vice-President of Compuserve. CompuServe has not and is not asserting a proprietary interest in the GIF spec. Even if we wanted to, there are enough sharp attorneys here who could remind us that it has long been publicly disclosed with no patent filing or attempt to assert other rights. However, in developng GIF, we did use the LZW compression scheme. Unknown to us at the time, Unisys had filed for a patent on that algorithm, even though we found it in a public source. We were approached regarding the matter long after GIF had been widely released on CompuServe and to the market at large. Regardless of what you may think about software patents in general, or the tactic of waiting until substantial infringment has occured, we were in an infringing position and had no option to seek a license. Since we have a substantial base of developers who were not only creating clients to Compuserve, but had used GIF in good faith in their own products, we also needed to in some way protect their interests by developng a pass through license. The text of that license, or portions of it, are what's circulating around the nets. Because it has been taken out of context, many are taking it as an assertion, by CompuServe, of an intent to prosecute proprietary rights in GIF against all users, including developers of Web clients and other software. This is not the case. CompuServe has no intent of pursuing rights in GIF in such a fashion, and I am writing this with the knowledge and consent of our CEO. Unisys, of course, may follow whatever they see as their best interests in the matter. For better or worse, as a patent attorney can tell you, selective enforcement is allowed by the letter of the law. Tim Oren Vice President CompuServe and more from Mr Oren: Re GIF, I can talk about it, and if the impression being left is that we are trying to make big bucks, I definitely need to talk about it, because we've left the wrong impression. Here's the story, which you CAN repeat, WITH my name attached: GIF was originally developed at CompuServe by Steve Wilhite, who currently works for me. As part of it, he used with the LZW compression scheme, which had been openly published by Unisys engineer in a journal. A number of other developers picked up and used LZW as well. None of us knew that Unisys had filed for, and eventually received, a patent on the LZW scheme. I believe this is called a 'submarine' patent - it can surface and get you later. We were got. Unisys proposed an infringement suit, and we had no recourse but to settle. We are paying licensing fees in a manner which IS a nondisclosure item. One of the things we needed to be able to do is to 'pass through' a license embodying both LZW & GIF to those developers who create their own client programs to CompuServe, such as TAPCIS and Mac Nav, since they 'practice' LZW as well. The reason that GIF is included as a conditional in such licenses is that we can't pass through an unrestricted LZW license, and the reason there is money involved is that we in turn have to pay Unisys. If anyone is taking the impression that we are asserting proprietary rights in GIF additional to the LZW patent, that is wrong. Neither are we attempting to assist Unisys in enforcing their patent with respect to non-CompuServe environments, such as the Internet, though 'buying into' our license would be one way of Internet based vendors in avoiding possible action from Unisys. This is far more headache than it is worth, believe me, and we are actively engaged in looking at migration strategies that will get us and our customers off the hook. Our reputation has been damaged by being an unwitting partner to Unisys during those 7 years of encouraging proliferation, and we are not happy about it. (I'm sure Stallman - rms - could find a moral in here somewhere... ) ------------- Jack Hamilton jfh@crl.com KD6TTL '92 K75RTA co-moderator, sci.med.aids ------------------------------ From: jhallen@world.std.com (Joseph H Allen) Subject: Re: What is a T1 Line? Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:01:22 GMT In article , James Carlson wrote: > I'm afraid you'll have to re-read what I wrote. There is no such > thing as "cross-talk" at the *digital* level. One DS0 channel cannot > affect another within a T1 line; there just is no path for this to > happen. Any signal at all can be carried on a DS0, and the others > will be blissfully unaware that it exists. They are separated in > time. For a DS0 as defined as a TDM channel on a T1, this is true (excluding inter-symbol interference on a bad line). The original poster was concerned about a filter on a 56K copper pair, which prevented it from being used at any higher rate. In this case there is filter to prevent cross-talk between 56K copper pairs. An entire T1 can also go on a copper pair, but not with that filter. The fact that the line is a DS0 which eventually gets multiplexed onto a T1 also limits his bandwidth. If this is not the filter which the poster was referring to, then pardon me. >>> In fact Pulse Code Modulation (digital) without any error detection >>> has almost the same interference properties as FM radio. If two FM >>> stations are close, there will be noise. If they are really close, >>> you'll hear both stations at once and lots of noise. > The two are very different. PCM is a digital signal; if you can > recover it from the noise on the line, you'll get a "perfect" copy of > the data. Line hits will produce a decidedly non-analog type of > noise, with random data points being generated. To produce > traditional "cross-talk" effects, you'd have to do an arithmetic > average on the values of the data points between two lines. This is > highly unlikely to occur. > If you had two AMI lines next to each other, you'd need to have the > extraneous cross-talk signal exceed the pulse detection threshold of > the receivers in order to be able to detect *anything* at all. > Anything below this value would simply be invisible at the digital > level. If there are two PCM signals going at the same rate with no error detection, no sequence randomization, and out-of-band syncronization, and there is enough interference to mess with the detection threshold, you will here actual cross-talk. It will be very bad, and the original signal will also be almost completely munged. Yes, this is different from linear additive cross-talk, but it's still cross-talk. > FM, due to the nature of analog demodulation techniques, exhibits a > capture effect. If two signals are broadcast on the same frequency, > the "louder" signal will be heard to the exclusion of the "quieter" > signal. You won't hear both stations at once. If the received > amplitude of the two signals are varying with respect to each other, > then all sorts of interesting effects (depending on the type of > demodulation used) occur, but hearing both at once isn't one of the > options. This "capture" effect has nearly the same effect as two PCM signals on top of each other. The stronger one will get through if the weeker one doesn't mess with it too much. If they have the same signal levels, you'll have real cross-talk plus lots of noise (to the point where they are both nearly indistinguishable, same as PCM). This really happens, try it. >>> There's also a ~100KHz low-pass filter between the A/D converter and >>> the line to limit the edge rate of the digital pulses. Cross-talk is >>> more severe at higher frequencies, so limiting the unnecessary high- >>> frequencies caused by fast edges helps reduce cross-talk. > Any filter placed in the DS0 data path after quantization and before > multiplexing has no effect on the bandwidth of the signal that the > user of that DS0 sees. This has nothing to do with the poster's > original statements. It does, because the original poster was concerned about that bandwidth of the actual copper pair that came to his house. It's my understanding that an ISDN DS0 is 56K digital line on a copper pair between your house and the local office, not a shared T1 (although a multiplexer at the local office my put it on a T1). jhallen@world.std.com (192.74.137.5) Joseph H. Allen ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Britain-Japan Fiber Cable Date: 4 Jan 1995 06:31:23 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) writes: > wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin) writes: >> AT&T will build a cable from Britain to Japan for $1.2G. It'll be >> 17,000 miles long, 5Gbps, and carry 320,000 "voice and other messages". >> That looks like only 16Kbps per circuit (which looks low). The >> current longest cable is a 9,000 mile one from France to Singapore, >> completed a year ago. >> Fun math: That works out to a capital cost per circuit of only $3750. >> Assume that a phone call from Britain to Japan costs $2/minute. If >> all 320,000 channels were in continuous use, then the cable would be >> paid for in the first 31 hours. >> Alternatively, if we assumed that the cable is good for ten years, >> or 100,000 hours, then amortizing the capital cost would be three >> cents per hour, or $5e-4/minute. This is a factor of 4,000 less >> than the price of the call. > The numbers for the newer transantlatic cables look like that, > too. You really should be able to buy a full-time transatlantic > circuit for about $100/month, and at the rate cable is being laid, you > probably soon will. > Not having to acquire property rights is a big win. Fortunately, > the UN didn't think of this for the Law of the Sea conference. There is no question that the "cost" to the carriers of the international circuits is declining toward zero. That cost, however, has very little to do with what you pay for an int't private-line or switched service. An international circuit is two "half circuits" with the price at each end completely controlled by the carriers at each end, one or both of which is normally a monopoly PTT. Only US/Canada and US/UK circuits are priced at anything even reasonably related to cost. Until PTT's discover what price elasticity means, or they are forced by large private bypass users, tariffed rates are unlikely to reflect the low costs actually involved. The U.S. Model is informative. For interstate long distance the "costs" are $0.03 originating access (paid to LEC), $0.03 terminating access (paid to LEC), and $0.01 or less TOTAL operational cost for the IXC. Because the IXC has to pay the LEC's the $0.06, it has about $0.07 total cost resulting in a retail pricing on the order of $0.11 - $0.16. The IXC of course has to absorb credit risk on all of the true cost (including the LEC which gets its money in any case. The IXC also has marketing and other costs. Nevertheless the true cost of long distance is on the order of a penny a minute and that includes the switches. If access costs were reduced to the same magnitude as the long distance, the total retail price would be on the order of a nickel a minute. Intrastate is even worse. I actually pay less to call Ft. Lauderdale to London than I pay to call from Ft. Lauderdale to Miami. The fact is that most PTT's subsidize their large and politically powerful employee bases by maintaining the highest possible overall charges for international calling both in collection rates (charged to those in their country) and in accounting rates (charges to U.S. or other foreign carriers). The same true for private lines. In fact the "price" guideline for a private line is oftern based on 9000 minutes of switched usage, no relataion to cost. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Finland Data Transmission Date: 4 Jan 1995 06:50:24 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , jackp@telecomm.admin.ogi.edu (Jack Pestaner) writes: > We have been communicating to a site in Finland with autoranging 14.4k > modems. On a good day we can run at 9600, but typically at 2400. We > have tried AT&T, MCI, and IDB (all are direct digital connections > through our PBX), but all seem to be extremely variable. We use > NetBlazer modems, same model, on each end. > This is really expensive, and we want to move to a more reliable > service, as we expect to have longer hold times of three to five hours > a day. I checked on a 56k DDS, but cost was about $9K per month. > Are there any satellite solutions, or packet solutions that anybody > knows of? BTW, we also tried x.25 from Sprint, but service went down > often, and Sprint just has the WORST customer service for problem > solving. You might want to try different modems including some newer V.34's You might also investigate the nature of the analog loops at both your end and the Finland end. V32bis and V34 depend on effective cancellation of echo. Not all modem models are equally effective with circuits that have long delays. The types of echo cancellers and echo suppressors used on individual connections can also be a significant factor. Since you will be spending several $K per month, it should be worthwhile to investigate different modems and possibly some conditioning of the analog loops in Finland. How is your voice quality? Are you getting satellite circuits all the time?. What happens US/UK with the same modems? What happens Finland/UK. With the money your spending, the capital costs of the best modems money can buy are insignificant. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ Subject: NANP 800 numbers from the UK Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:57:52 GMT From: Clive D.W. Feather All of a sudden, I can now dial 1-800 numbers from the UK. There is a few seconds of silence, and then an American female voice tells me that this call will *not* be free, but charged at standard direct-dial rates. If I don't want to pay, I should hang up now. Just for fun, I tried 1-800-MY-ANI-IS. It told me: "702 000 5555" ! Clive D.W. Feather | Santa Cruz Operation clive@sco.com | Croxley Centre Phone: +44 1923 813541 | Hatters Lane, Watford Fax: +44 1923 813811 | WD1 8YN, United Kingdom ------------------------------ From: rvb@iti.org (Raymond S. VanderBok) Subject: Cellular Billing Services Date: 4 Jan 95 13:02:09 GMT Organization: Industrial Technology Institute Are there service companies that provide custom billing for cellular service? I would like to be charged for service in a way different from what my cellular provider offers. Ray VanderBok Metalforming Manager NIST / Midwest Manufacturing Technology Center (313)769-4131 internet: rvb@iti.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:35:58 EST From: Stan Schwartz Subject: Cell One NY/NJ Eliminates Daily Roam Charges It was buried in small print in the copy of their ad in Monday's {New York Newsday}, so I called customer service and verified it. As of 1/2/95, Cell One NY/NJ (00025) has FINALLY followed NYNEX Mobile's lead and eliminated the $3.00 daily "nag" roamer charge everywhere in North America. This applies to both NACN and Non-NACN cities (it was unclear in some cases whether some NACN cities charged the fee). At any rate, the only charges for roaming outside the NACN are 99 cents per minute airtime (still higher than NYNEX, for the most part). CellOne's customer service rep explained that some areas are 83 cents per minute instead of the 99, but they are few and far between - one should assume that it will be 99 and be pleasantly surprised if the bill is 16 cents less (per minute). A small celebration is in order! Stan ------------------------------ From: wiltzius@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov (David P Wiltzius) Subject: Summary: Telecom Texts Date: 4 Jan 1995 00:00:06 GMT Organization: Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab. I had several requests to post a summary so here goes. I haven't found a good textbook in telecom, but I think Newton's Telecom Dictionary is a very useful substitute. Because it is structured as a dictionary, one must piece together information from various entries, but I did pretty well on your test sentence. All the technical terms in your sentence were in Newton and they clearly pointed me toward the SONET entry, which is almost two pages long, and did a decent job of explaining your sentence, I think. I teach a course on information and communication technology (for industrial engineers); I use a collection of up-to-date articles on uses of telecom (Network World is one great source) and have the students use Newton to help them read these articles. I saw a book in Barnes and Noble called "Digital Telephony", Second Edition, by John Bellamy. Publisher is John Wiley, (c) 1991. IBSN 0-471-62056-4 After perusing the book, I came to the conclusion that it contains much of the information I am looking for (the same sort of thing you are looking for). The first chapter covers analog systems. The rest is digital. There is a chapter on SONET. I am still debating whether or not to get it (it was $75). I am interested but I could also spend $1000 on software engineering books (my occupation). Consider it requested. BTW, I bought some of the Telephony BASIC series. Haven't had a chance to look at them yet but they are THIN. I suspect they are VERY basic and not a good bargain. Happy Holidays, (Ed: I bought two of them (SONET and Wireless) months ago and I think they are worth their modest price. They are basic, as advertised.) McGraw-Hill, Delran, NJ 08075, publishes a series of reference books called Datapro. The series covers everything from how modems work, T-1 history, to vendor and product analysis. William Stallings has written several books on communications media and equipment. Titles slip my mind but I'm sure you should be able to find something by author search. -------------------Start off with "Digital Telephony" 2nd Ed. by John Bellamy ISBN 0-471-62056-4. He has a chapter on SONET that will give you a taste. Since the field is still emerging, many issues with SONET and SDH are still evolving. ------------------- RADIO SHACK CARRIES A BOOK CALLED "UNDERSTANDING TELEPHONE ELECTRONICS" WHICH EXPLAINS SUBJECTS FROM THE SIMPLE POTS TELEPHONE TO CENTRAL OFFICE EQUIPMENT. TELLABS, INC. PUTS OUT A TEXT BOOK COMPLETE WITH TESTS AT THE END OF EACH CHAPTER. HOPE THIS HELPS. IF YOU HEAR ABOUT OTHERS PLEASE LET ME KNOW. ------------------- You're welcome! I recently purchased an excellent telecom book from Artech House Inc.: "Service Management in Computing and Telecommunications." Artech specializes in telecom material. Their number is: 617-769-9750, call for a catalog. I've found them pleasant to do business with, but their prices, as with Computer Literacy, are full list (read: high). Speaking of price, if you're in the San Jose area, there is a large store near the corner of Hilsdale and Camden, across Hillsdale from Target, that buys close-out books from publishers. They sell most for under $5.00, and many for $3.00! Many books are college texts, and on some very good subjects. I was there this afternoon and picked up the "Artifial Inteligence Handbook ($3.00), Spencer Johnson's "Yes or No" ($3.00), "Voodoo Dos" ($8.00), Jimmy Carter's "An Outdoor Journal" ($3.00), Stanley Davis' "Managing Corporate Culture" ($2.00), and the "Pocket Guide to Phrasal Verbs" ($2.00). These are all hardbound editions. I didn't see any telecom material, but I have in the past. the place is huge, and I didn't look at everything. It's definately worth a visit if you're in the neighborhood, and you have the time. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #5 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa06229; 4 Jan 95 20:27 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA23108; Wed, 4 Jan 95 15:23:13 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA23100; Wed, 4 Jan 95 15:23:09 CST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 15:23:09 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501042123.AA23100@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #6 TELECOM Digest Wed, 4 Jan 95 15:23:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 6 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson AT&T Settles CALL-INFO Dispute With MCI (AT&T News via A. Alan Toscano) Motorola Flip Technical Manual (Shawn Gordhamer) Irish/USA Phone Ring Signals vs UK (Conor O'Neill) Telecom FAQ - Time to Update It (Dave Leibold) Is There a Telecom Group in Chicago? (logicarsch@aol.com) Seeking White Pages on CD or Disk (Scott Warbritton) EARN Gopher Server (gopher@earn.net) Computer Caller-ID (Thomas Fitzurka) AT&T First to Deliver Long-Awaited "Follow-Me" 500 Numbers (Alan Toscano) Are You Working in Televirtuality/Networked Virtual Worlds? (Robt Jacobson) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Wally Ritchie) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Andy Spitzer) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 14:01:51 -0600 From: A Alan Toscano Subject: AT&T and MCI Settle 800-CALL-INFO Directory Assistance Dispute Michael Lordi 908-221-6382 Gary Morgenstern 908-221-6153 AT&T AND MCI SETTLE 800 CALL INFO DIRECTORY ASSISTANCE DISPUTE BASKING RIDGE, N.J. -- AT&T today announced that it has reached an agreement to settle its complaint against MCI Telecommunications Corporation involving MCI's 1-800-CALL-INFO directory assistance service. Under the settlement, MCI will make changes in the service that will protect the public's interests and trust in the toll-free status of 800 services. The agreement requires MCI to cease its practice of automatically charging for calls to its 800 number for directory information based on the electronic identification of the callers' numbers. Contingent on that change, and upon the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) approval of the settlement, AT&T will drop its complaint that MCI's practice violated the 1992 Federal Telephone and Dispute Resolution Act. The law restricts telephone companies and information providers from charging customers for calling 800 numbers. Callers to MCI's service will now be required to use credit cards, calling cards or establish alternative billing arrangements with MCI in advance of their calls. MCI has agreed to make these modifications by Jan. 7. "This means that callers will no longer have to fear dialing 800 numbers and automatically being charged. And businesses don't need to concern themselves with policing these calls from their premises," said Kenneth Sichau, AT&T's marketing vice president. "It's great news for the entire industry! "This is precisely the outcome we had requested when we filed our complaint in October. We will continue our efforts at the FCC to preserve and strengthen rules that protect consumers from abusive or unfair practices involving toll-free 800 service." ------------------------------ From: shawnlg@netcom.com (Shawn Gordhamer) Subject: Motorola Flip Technical Manual Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:35:39 GMT Is there a good source for the Micro T-A-C technical manual (or information contained therein)? My dealer said they paid several hundred dollars for one. Shawn Gordhamer shawnlg@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Conor O'Neill Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 16:19:08 +0000 Subject: Irish/USA Phone Ring Signals vs UK Reply-To: conor_o@s3dub.ie Hi, I recently purchased a British Telecom Answering machine for use in Ireland. In my innocence I assumed the Irish and UK phone systems would be almost identical. They are not. From what I can gather, the Irish system almost identical to the USA when tones are concerned. I purchased an adapter in Ireland which uses a capacitor to modify the ring signal so that the BT machine recognises the tones. However it does not recognise the hang-up tone and so is a bit useless at the moment. Anyone out there know how to modify American tones to suit BT equipment? I'm pretty sure about the Irish and American signals being similar as several people I know have bought phone equipment in the USA which worked perfectly here. Any help would be appreciated. Conor O'Neill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 00:38:00 -0500 From: dleibold@gvc.com (Dave Leibold) Subject: Telecom FAQ - Time to Update It The TELECOM Digest FAQ is long overdue for an overhaul. Anyone with updates for the FAQ should send them this way. Hopefully before the winter is out, another FAQ edition will replace the current one. Send updates to dleibold@gvc.com (or to any of my usual e-homes) ------------------------------ From: logicarsch@aol.com (LogicaRsch) Subject: Is There a Telecom Group in Chicago? Date: 4 Jan 1995 15:20:39 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: logicarsch@aol.com (LogicaRsch) I do market research specializing in telecommunications. I'm looking for a telecom organization that I can join that has a Chicago chapter. Specifically, I'm looking for a group that has meetings, seminars and get-togethers, a little newsletter, etc. etc. for a hundred or two hundred bucks a year. Can someone clue me in? Thanks! [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You know, to show you what a hermit I have become the past few years, my answer to your question would have to be 'I do not know'. Seriously, I don't. Maybe we should start one, or some sort of telecom discussion group, social, etc. PAT] ------------------------------ From: swar@infinet.com (Buzz) Subject: Seeking White Pages on CD or Disk Date: Wed, 04 Jan 95 13:55:56 EST Organization: infinet.com I'm not sure if such an animal exists, but I'm looking for white pages for the entire country on either CD or Disk. All reply's on where to obtain this information, either by email or posts will be deeply appreciated. Scott Warbritton swar@infinet.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They're out there. Some are of dubious value in terms of accuracy. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:17:09 +0100 From: GopherMail Server Subject: EARN Gopher Server Mail this file back to gopher with an X before the menu items that you want. If you don't mark any items, gopher will send all of them. 1. About the EARN Information Service. 2. About EARN/ 3. About TERENA/ 4. User Services Documentation/ 5. 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Try NETHELP, the online help desk (or read the FAQs) Numb=15 Type=1 Port=70 Path=1/nethelp Host=gopher.earn.net ------------------------------ From: LCRS73A@prodigy.com (Thomas Fitzurka) Subject: Computer Caller-ID Date: 04 Jan 1995 11:21:56 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Does anyone know of a software program that enables you to have your computer identify caller's phone numbers? I saw a movie called Brainscan that had a computer, using caller id, identify the caller and tell the person in an "igor" voice, which I perticularly liked, that "Bobby is calling master". The idea was really interesting to me and I would like to get something like it. Thanks. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't know the specific name of a software program doing this, but there is lots of software for what you propose. I think someone said Procomm had that ability. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 14:00:53 -0600 From: A Alan Toscano Subject: AT&T First to Deliver Long-Awaited "Follow-Me" 500 Numbers Jon Mellor 908-221-5017 Carol Henry 908-221-8089 Doug Idleman 908-221-3950 AT&T FIRST TO DELIVER LONG-AWAITED "FOLLOW-ME" 500 NUMBERS BASKING RIDGE, N.J. -- Mobile consumers and corporate road warriors eager for the new "follow-me-everywhere" 500 numbers are getting them from AT&T, the first company to offer a service. The company said it already has arrangements to provide 500 numbers to as many as 37,000 members of the National Football League Players, the American Institute for Foreign Study, and Cross Country Healthcare. AT&T also is selling the service to tens of thousands of individuals who reserved numbers last summer, when the company announced how people could use the new numbers. Customers can begin using the new personal number service, called AT&T True Connections, in the next several weeks as local dialing availability becomes universal. Anyone who needs to stay connected to business associates, friends or relatives while moving from place to place can benefit from having an AT&T 500 number. People can tailor the service to their needs for anytime-anywhere communications, and can keep their 500 numbers for life. The people signing up for AT&T's service include real- estate agents, who move around a lot during the day; business owners and executives who spend time in different offices during the week; college students, who move between campuses and their homes; and retirees, who travel throughout the year as both tourists and grandparents. "AT&T 500-number service can save these people -- and the important people in their lives -- time and money," said Joseph P. Nacchio, president-AT&T Consumer Communications Services. "They'll spend less time exchanging numbers and tracking each other down when they want to talk. And they may even spend less money making fewer calls." Customers can choose from several 500-number offers with a variety of features available only from AT&T. Each customer will have a 500-prefix number that can be programmed to ring any telephone, cellular phone, pager, fax machine or personal computer that can be dialed directly in the United States and more than 200 other countries. By dialing their own 500 numbers, customers can program several phones to ring in sequence, retrieve voice-mail and fax messages and, soon, make outgoing calls without calling cards or coins. Each of the AT&T 500-number packages will be available for an introductory price of $1 a month, with no enrollment fee, through April 30, 1995. Voice-mail service will cost an additional $5.95 a month. AT&T's 500-number service for businesses will include all available features, and will cost $7 a month for each number after the introductory offer has ended. The company expects to add more business-related features in the new year. A variety of packages for consumers allows each person to pick a level of service that meets individual needs. Beginning May 1, subscriptions will range from $1 to $7 a month. Enrollment for business customers and consumers beginning May 1 will cost $10 for each randomly selected 500 number or $25 for each specifically requested 500 number. In addition to monthly fees, a per-minute charge will apply to calls made with 500 numbers. Calls within the United States, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands during off-peak hours (from 5 p.m. to 8 a.m. weekdays, and all weekend) will cost 15 cents a minute, whether the caller or receiver pays. Calls during peak hours (from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. weekdays) will cost 25 cents a minute. Rates for some in-state calls may vary. Calls made to or from other countries will be charged the regular AT&T rates for those countries. Business customers can realize savings opportunities by applying 500-number charges to such volume-discount plans as Customnet and Small Business Advantage Plus. Charges for consumers' AT&T True Connections calls can be discounted through AT&T True USAsm Savings, and they also can earn points in AT&T True Rewardssm and AT&T Global Rewardssm, the company's customer-rewards programs. With voice-mail service, subscribers can receive messages and gain more control over their communications. For instance, it gives them the ability to screen calls, and pager owners can receive notification on their pagers when messages have been left in their voice mailboxes. "We're offering a personal number service that gives customers tremendous flexibility," Nacchio said. "It's rich in features and will help them better manage their communications." The pro football players, nurses and students getting 500 numbers have distinct needs that AT&T meets. o The football players and others covered by the NFLPA agreement can program their 500 numbers to follow them to hotels around the country. o The foreign-exchange students' parents can call their kids' 500 numbers to reach them around the world. The students also can automatically reverse charges on calls back to the United States from locations with touch-tone service. o The nurses and other medical specialists who take short- term jobs through Cross Country Healthcare, a national placement firm, can have their 500 numbers follow them to the apartments they rent. Both business customers and consumers can learn more about AT&T True Connections by calling 1-800-TRUE-500, extension 439. For consumers to subscribe, they must have or obtain AT&T long-distance service in their homes, but they are not required to enroll in any specific program. # # # AT&T 500 PERSONAL NUMBER SERVICES PACKAGES AND PRICES JANUARY 1995 A single feature-rich package for business customers will be available for the introductory price of $1 a month through April 1995. These customers will receive all the features available to consumers, plus business-related enhancements in coming months. Four packages for consumers offer a wide range of choices in features, functions and prices. All will cost $1 a month for an introductory period through April 1995. The basic package, called "Private Line," offers a 500 number that the subscriber can keep for life, no matter how many times he or she moves within the United States. AT&T currently can assign subscribers 500 numbers that begin with 20 different exchanges, such as 346, 367 and 677. For example, a person's number could be 500-346-XXXX. With this package, the calls to the 500 number go only to the subscriber's home telephone. It also allows subscribers to make calls to their own homes when they're traveling. Beginning in February, they'll be able to charge calls to other places on their AT&T True Connections accounts without coins or credit-cards. This package will continue to cost $1 a month after the introductory period. The "Stay Close" package adds call-placing and the subscriber's choice of call forwarding or reverse-billing to the basic package. Call-forwarding lets the subscriber have 500-number calls forwarded to virtually any other U.S. telephone number and to more than 200 countries and areas on demand. Reverse-billing lets the subscriber pay for calls from other people, when those people have a code number given by the subscriber. This package will cost $3 a month after the introductory period. The "Traveler" package adds call-placing, call-forwarding and reverse-billing to the basic package, and will cost $5 a month after the introductory period. The premium package, "Navigator," offers all the above features and adds call-sequencing, which lets a subscriber's 500-number calls ring at several locations in sequence. For instance, a call could be forwarded first to an office phone, then a cellular phone, and then home or even a hotel. The subscriber could change the sequence as often as desired. This package will cost $7 a month after the introductory period. For $5.95 a month, AT&T True Connections subscribers can add voice-mail and receive an unlimited number of messages. With call-screening, they can choose to receive all calls, urgent calls, calls from certain people, or send all calls to their voice mailboxes. And pager owners can receive notification on their pagers when messages have been left for them. Both business customers and consumers can learn more about AT&T True Connections by calling 1-800-982-8480, extension 439. For consumers to subscribe, they must have or obtain AT&T long-distance service in their homes, but they are not required to enroll in any specific program. ------------------------------ From: cyberoid@u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) Subject: Are You Working in Televirtuality/Networked Virtual Worlds? Date: 4 Jan 1995 19:56:39 GMT Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle I would be interested in anyone working in these areas for possible inclusion on a panel at a leading international conference on virtual worlds. Thanks. Please use email. Bob Jacobson ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 4 Jan 1995 05:51:23 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes: > What kind of noise/distortion does American-style bit-robbing cause to > voice band signals transmitted through PCM channels? > (The reason I ask is that I wonder how much bit-robbing affects V.34 > modems.) The effect of a robbed bit is to introduce, 50% of the time, an additional quantitization error that results in an overall reduction of about 2db in the S/N ratio. This is not likely to be the limiting factor in V.34 performance except possibly in situations where many D4 type links are involved in tandem. In the U.S., most intermachine trunks are common channel direct connections so only the robbed bit at each end of the IC/EC connection introduces the robbed bit (as well as any non CCS systems in the EC). I believe that other types of noise (other than quantization noise) will have a much greater effect on V.34 peformance particular any type of impulse noise or cross-talk in the analog portions of the local loop. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 12:29:30 EST From: woof@telecnnct.com (Andy Spitzer) Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes: > What kind of noise/distortion does American-style bit-robbing cause to > voice band signals transmitted through PCM channels? While I can't answer your question in scientific terms (aka %THD measurements, S/N ratios, etc.) I can answer it subjectively. In Robbed Bit signalling, the "Robbed" bit occurs every sixth frame (or sample if we are concentrating on an individual channel), thus in every sixth sample the LSB is overridden with the value of the A bit, then 6 samples later with the value of the B bit. On a "quiet" idle channel (AB bits both 0), using u-Law PCM, the pattern sent over the channel would be: (in hex, LSB last) FF FF FF FF FF FE FF FF FF FF FF FE ... The difference in voltage of a standard CODEC (A/D converter for PCM) from FF to FF is about 2 mV (on a scale from -8031 to +8031 mV). So, converted to an analog signal, the above waveform is a series of 2 mV impulses occuring every 8000/6 = 1333.3 Hz. This waveform is rich in harmonics, so it "sounds" like a very high pitched, (although rather quiet) whine, similar to the "ringing in your ears" sound. Once the line is taken offhook (aka AB bits both become 1), then the pattern becomes: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF ... which is dead quiet. (And since LSB=1, and AB=1 there is no distortion!) Thus the noise associated with robbed bit signalling can be viewed as superimposing the intended signal with the above impluse train. Perhaps armed with this information, someone else can calculate the noise/distortion measurments you are seeking. Hope this helps! Andy Spitzer woof@telecnnct.com The Telephone Connection 301-417-0700 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #6 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa07234; 4 Jan 95 22:45 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA27091; Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:22:11 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA27078; Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:22:06 CST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:22:06 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501042222.AA27078@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #7 TELECOM Digest Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:22:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 7 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Canadian Yellow Pages Companies Face Anti-Monopoly Challenge (Nigel Allen) Cross Keys (Richard D.G. Cox) Re: Cell One NY/NJ Eliminates Daily Roam Charges (Alan M. Gallatin) Re: Cell One NY/NJ Eliminates Daily Roam Charges (Jeffrey Rhodes) Re: Flat Rate Cellular Phone Service (Andrew Laurence) Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK (James Sterbenz) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Jeffrey Rhodes) Re: Watching The Area Codes Split (Revised List) (Steve Grandi) Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T (Donald J. Zanolla) Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code (Barton F. Bruce) Re: Where Does ISDN Fit In? (synchro@access1.digex.net) Looking For Mail Order Cellular Accessories (G. Robert Arrabito) Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? (synchro@access1.digex.net) Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? (Jeff Box) Re: What is a T1 Line? (Matthew P. Downs) Re: What is a T1 Line (William Wood) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 15:34:15 -0500 Subject: Canadian Yellow Pages Companies Face Anti-Monopoly Challenge From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) Organization: Internex Online Here is a press release from the Director of Investigation and Research of the Bureau of Competition Policy, an independent official of the government of Canada. (I don't work for the government; I'm just forwarding the press release. Other government press releases are available through ftp, gopher and mosaic at debra.dgbt.doc.ca in /dbd/ftp/pub/isc/Industry.Canada.News.Releases.) File name:Dec-22-94.nb3 File location: debra.dgbt.doc.ca /dbd/ftp/pub/isc/Industry.Canada.News.Releases Date archived: Wed Jan 4 10:13:39 EST 1995 Archive name: Industry Canada, Canadian Federal Government Archived by: tyson@debra.dgbt.doc.ca Originator: Bureau of Competition Policy DIRECTOR BRINGS APPLICATION BEFORE COMPETITION TRIBUNAL REGARDING YELLOW PAGES PUBLISHERS OTTAWA, December 22, 1994 -- George N. Addy, Director of Investigation and Research of the Bureau of Competition Policy, filed an application today before the Competition Tribunal alleging that two subsidiaries of Bell Canada Enterprises, Tele-Direct (Publications) Inc., and Tele-Direct (Services) Inc., are engaged in conduct contrary to the Competition Act. The provisions of the Act that are at issue in this case deal with abuse of dominance, tied selling and refusal to deal. The Director is asking the Competition Tribunal to prohibit the two companies from tying the sale of advertising services to the sale of advertising space in the Yellow Pages and from engaging in other anti-competitive acts toward other participants in the market. He is also requesting the Tribunal to order the two companies to provide subscriber listing information to competing publishers. "In my view, the anti-competitive acts alleged in this application have deprived a large segment of the Canadian business community of the benefits of competition in this important advertising medium," Mr. Addy stated. "The order requested would open the market to independent publishers, advertising agencies and consultants and result in more competitive product and service offerings for consumers of these products," Mr. Addy continued. The Director's application alleges that Tele-Direct (Publications) Inc., and Tele-Direct (Services) Inc., each with market shares in excess of 90 percent, control the publication of telephone directories in their territories, which includes the provision of advertising space in such directories and related advertising services. The application alleges that the two companies have tied the sale of advertising services to advertising space in the Yellow Pages. This conduct has prevented advertising agencies from competing for the advertising services business of advertisers in a substantial part of the market. The respondents have refused to supply publishers of competing directories with current telephone subscriber listing information which is obtained on an exclusive basis from the telephone companies. As well, the respondents have engaged in additional anti-competitive acts which have had an exclusionary effect on advertising agencies, advertising consultants and competing telephone directory publishers. Tele-Direct (Publications) is the exclusive publisher of telephone directories for its affiliate Bell Canada which at present is the sole provider of local telephone services throughout most of Ontario and Quebec. Tele-Direct (Services) is the exclusive publisher of telephone directories for certain municipal, provincial and territorial telephone companies in Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador, Yukon and the Northwest Territories. The application is on public record before the Competition Tribunal. Under the Tribunal rules, the respondents have 30 days to file a response to the Director's application. For more information, please contact: Robert Lancop (819) 997-1353 Release 7188 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:56:35 -0500 From: richard@mandarin.com Subject: Cross Keys ehenry@Newbridge.COM (Ethan Henry) gave you some addresses for Newbridge Networks, and added:>> There's also an address in the UK. There is indeed. It is at: Coldra Woods, Chepstow Road, NEWPORT, Gwent, NP6 1JB UK Telephone: 01633 413600 (from outside the UK +44 1633 413600) Telex: 497557 (From outside the UK, +51 497557) I was particularly interested in his comment that he worked, not for Newbridge, but "across the street, at Crosskeys Systems Corporation". What, you may ask, is the connection between Newbridge and Crosskeys? Well, in the valley in South Wales where I grew up, Newbridge and Cross Keys are both names of (nearby) villages. Whether there will ever be telecom companies named after the two villages between them (Cwmcarn and Abercarn) is another matter. Perhaps there already are (Cwmcarn is the location of what was Post Office Telephones' refurbishment factory, now bought and operated by Northern Telecom in the UK !) Both Newbridge and Cross Keys are less than ten miles from the Newbridge HQ at Coldra. Cross Keys was also one of the first places in the valley to have a crossbar switch replace the "original" Strowger UAX13 - these little switches were intended to serve up to 200 lines but were often made to stretch to serve anything up to 700 lines, until they were replaced. Richard D G Cox Mandarin Technology, P O Box 111, Penarth, South Glamorgan CF64 3YG Voice: 0956 700111; Fax: 0956 700110; VoiceMail: 0941 151515 E-mail address: richard@mandarin.com; PGP2.6.2 public key on request ------------------------------ From: amg@panix.com (Alan M. Gallatin) Subject: Re: Cell One NY/NJ Eliminates Daily Roam Charges Date: 4 Jan 1995 13:20:45 -0500 Organization: Pinetree CyberServices In a previous article, Stan Schwartz wrote: > At any rate, the only charges for roaming outside the NACN are 99 cents > per minute airtime (still higher than NYNEX, for the most part). This is actually untrue. NYNEX roaming costs $.99/minute outside of the Boston to Washington corridor. Inside that corridor the rates are $.59 for New England (and I think that's limited to NYNEX markets only) and $.79 for BAMS markets south of New Jersey. Cellular One's rates outside that corridor vary, up to $.99/minute, but occasionally less. Within, the rates from Boston to Washington are the same as home rates. On all rate plans (even the overpriced "access plan") the $.79 NYNEX charges is more than any CellOne home minute could possibly be. Also, the $.59/minute NYNEX charges north of NYC is more than all CellOne home rates except for Access and Plan30 peak minutes. (Then again, anyone who has Access clearly doesn't care about minute rates for roaming, and the Plan30 peak minute is $.65, just a bit more than NYNEX's New England Roaming rate). Long story short: By eliminating the $3 fee, Cellular One is matching or beating ALL NYNEX roaming rates, save peak hours while roaming in New England for Plan30 customers. Alan M. Gallatin ------------------------------ From: jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com (Jeffrey Rhodes) Subject: Re: Cell One NY/NJ Eliminates Daily Roam Charges Date: 4 Jan 1995 20:31:08 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Reply-To: jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com In article 7@eecs.nwu.edu, Stan Schwartz writes: > It was buried in small print in the copy of their ad in Monday's {New > York Newsday}, so I called customer service and verified it. As of > 1/2/95, Cell One NY/NJ (00025) has FINALLY followed NYNEX Mobile's > lead and eliminated the $3.00 daily "nag" roamer charge everywhere in > North America. This applies to both NACN and Non-NACN cities (it was > unclear in some cases whether some NACN cities charged the fee). At > any rate, the only charges for roaming outside the NACN are 99 cents > per minute airtime (still higher than NYNEX, for the most part). > CellOne's customer service rep explained that some areas are 83 cents > per minute instead of the 99, but they are few and far between - one > should assume that it will be 99 and be pleasantly surprised if the > bill is 16 cents less (per minute). > A small celebration is in order! In some Cellular One markets, the 99 cent per minute roamer air time includes all necessary long distance charges (10 to 20 cents per minute) for automatic call delivery via the NACN. This is because McCaw buys bulk long distance from AT&T and can absorb the ACD long distance charges, perhaps justifying a higher per minute roamer air time charge. Unfortunately, this practise will have to change when markets are converted to Equal Access to support the McCaw-AT&T merger. McCaw is not permitted to be a long distance reseller, so Cellular One subscribers must pick an Equal Access long distance carrier. ACD long distance charges will be set by the PICked Equal Access carrier. As usual, opinions are my own and are subject to vary with actual facts. Jeffrey Rhodes at jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com ------------------------------ From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Flat Rate Cellular Phone Service Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:59:31 GMT Jhupf writes: > On Thu, 29 Dec 1994, Lawrence The Dreamer Chen wrote: >> I don't know how wide spread the service is, but up here (Canada) they >> have packages where you get unlimited weekend calling, and for $10 a >> month more you get unlimited evening calling (7pm-7am). > Cellular One of Triangle here in the Triangle in North Carolina offers > full local access on weekends for $10 a month. We were considering > going for it until we realized we had an accmulation of more than 575 > minutes of local calling credit we haven't been able to use during the > past 14 months. Are you saying that Cellular One lets you carry unused minutes from your allowance over to future months? GTE Mobilnet here in the San Francisco Bay Area has a "use 'em or lose 'em" policy. Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com Certified NetWare Administrator (CNA) Oakland, California, USA CD-ROM Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) Phone: (510) 547-6647 Pager: (510) 308-1903 Fax: (510) 547-8002 ------------------------------ From: jpgs@gte.com (James Sterbenz) Subject: Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK Date: 4 Jan 1995 18:14:47 GMT Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA In article , Clive D.W. Feather wrote: > All of a sudden, I can now dial 1-800 numbers from the UK... So will 500 numbers work out of the US as well? James P.G. Sterbenz Sr. MTS, Broadband Intelligent Networks jpgs@{acm|ieee}.org GTE Telecommunications Research Laboratory +1 617 466 2786 40 Sylvan Road MS-61, Waltham, MA 02254 USA http://info.gte.com/jpgs/jpgs.html [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, I don't think anyone knows yet, since they are not yet working in the USA, or maybe just barely in a few areas. Wait a month or so until they are turned on and working correctly around the USA, then let's see what happens from abroad. PAT] ------------------------------ From: jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com (Jeffrey Rhodes) Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 4 Jan 1995 18:01:48 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Reply-To: jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com In article 9@eecs.nwu.edu, naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes: > What kind of noise/distortion does American-style bit-robbing cause to > voice band signals transmitted through PCM channels? > (The reason I ask is that I wonder how much bit-robbing affects V.34 > modems.) I'm not a modem expert but I would answer "none". If a call connection is made on a bit robbing DS0 within a DS1, then the modems will settle for some transparent speed (9600bps) during the initial negotiation. I don't think the V.34 modems will connect at 28k8 when bit robbing is present. There really aren't many circuits like these, especially for long distance calls. Most bit-robbing occurs on intra-LATA (I think) by LECs that haven't updated circuits that are being depreciated over a 40 year period. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 12:28:16 -0700 From: grandi@noao.edu (Steve Grandi) Subject: Watching The Area Codes Split (Revised List) Thanks to a number of folks, I have corrected some errors in my list and added some new information. There will be at least 15 new area codes in 1995! (Last Revised: 04 January 1995) Date Event 1) 1/7/95 AC 630 overlaid on ACs 312 and 708 (Chicago metro area) 2) 1/15/95 AC 334 splits from AC 205 (Alabama) 3) 1/15/95 AC 360 splits from AC 206 (Washington) 4) 3/1/95 AC 281 overlaid on AC 713 (Houston metro area) 5) 3/1/95 AC 954 overlaid on AC 305 (Miami metro area) 6) 3/19/95 AC 520 splits from AC 602 (Arizona) 7) 4/2/95 AC 970 splits from AC 303 (Colorado) 8) 5/28/95 AC 941 splits from AC 813 (Florida) 9) 7/15/95 AC 540 splits from AC 703 (Virginia) 10) 9/1/95 AC 423 splits from AC 615 (Tennessee) 11) 9/2/95 AC 562 overlaid on ACs 213, 310 and 818 (Los Angeles metro area) 12) 10/??/95 AC 770 splits from or overlaid on AC 404 (Atlanta metro area) 13) 10/??/95 AC 860 splits from AC 203 (Connecticut) 14) 10/1/95 AC 441 splits from AC 809 (Bermuda & Bahamas) 15) ??/??/95 AC 864 splits from AC 803 (South Carolina) 16) ??/??/?? AC 340 splits from AC 809 (Puerto Rico) Notes: 1) Wireless services (cellular phones and pagers). All wireless services in 708 will be forced to move to 630. All new wireless services in areas served by 312 and 708 will be in 630. Wireless companies are appealing to the Illinois Commerce Commission and to the FCC. 2) 334 will contain Auburn, Dothan, Mobile, Montgomery and Selma. 205 will retain Anniston, Birmingham, Decatur, Huntsville and Tuscaloosa. Permissive period ends 5/13/95. 3) 360 will contain Bellingham, Bremerton, Olympia, Vancouver. 206 will retain Auburn, Bellevue, Everett, Redmond, Seattle, Tacoma. Permissive period ends 5/21/95. 4) First numbers assigned in AC 281 will be wireless services. Landline services will be assigned in AC 281 later. 5) Wireless services. All wireless services in 305 will move to 954. Awaiting approval of Florida Public Service Commission. 6) 520 will contain Flagstaff, Prescott, Sierra Vista, Tucson, Yuma. 602 will retain Buckeye, Chandler, Glendale, Mesa, Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tempe. Permissive period ends 7/23/95. 7) 970 will contain Aspen, Durango, Fort Collins, Grand Junction, Greely, Loveland, Steamboat Springs, Vail. 303 will retain Arvada, Aurora, Boulder, Denver, Englewood, Littleton, Longmont. Permissive period ends 10/1/95. 8) 941 will contain Bradenton, Fort Meyers, Lakeland, Sarasota, Winter Haven. 813 will retain Clearwater, St. Petersburg, Tampa. Permissive period ends 3/3/96. 9) 540 will contain Blacksburg, Roanoke, Salem, Winchester. 703 will retain Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, Falls Church, Mclean. Permissive period ends ??/??/?? 10) 423 will contain Chattanooga, Clarksville, Johnson City, Kingsport, Knoxville. 615 will retain Murfreesboro, Nashville. Permissive period ends 2/1/96. 11) First numbers assigned in AC 562 will be wireless services in the area served by AC 310. Landline services in AC 310 and wireless and possibly landline services in AC 213 and 818 will follow. Wireless companies are appealing to the FCC. 12) AC 770 will either be an overlay on AC 404 or a geographical split. 13) No further details. 14) No further details. 15) 864 will contain Anderson, Greenville, Rock Hill, Spartanburg. 803 will retain Charleston, Columbia, Florence, Myrtle Beach. Permissive period ends ??/??/?? 16) No details. Steve Grandi, National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, Arizona USA Internet: grandi@noao.edu +1 602 325-9228 (after 1 Apr 95: +1 520 318-8228) ------------------------------ From: zanolla@agouti.cig.mot.com (Donald J. Zanolla) Subject: Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T Date: 4 Jan 95 20:02:15 GMT Organization: Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno) writes: > It may be a matter between the LEC and the customer, but as soon as > AT&T finds out that the Easy Access carrier has been changed, they > will issue an order to change it right back. > I would call the LEC (in my case Pacific Bell) and tell them AT&T is > "slamming" your line. When they hear "slam" they take your complaint > very seriously. Tell them you want a password on your account, and > not to authorize any changes made without that password. > You might want to call AT&T up and tell them you don't appreciate them > slamming your line. (Their ears perk up nicely when they hear "slam" > too). Please define SLAM in this context. Thanks, Donald Zanolla zanolla@agouti.cig.mot.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "Slamming" has always been defined in this context as the unauthorized switching of long distance carriers on a phone line. If for example you are a customer of AT&T and one day you discover that your default (one plus or zero plus) carrier has been changed to Sprint -- just an example -- without your permission or knowledge, then we say that (in this example) Sprint 'slammed' your line. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Barton.Bruce@camb.com Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code Date: 4 Jan 95 10:03:17 -0500 Organization: Cambridge Computer Associates, Inc. In article , primeperf@aol.com (Prime perf) writes: > Does anyone know the procedure for obtaining a 10XXX code? Where does > one begin? What FCC forms and regulations are involved? Having > obtained a 10XXX code, how does one get it incorporated into the PSTN? You are a tad late. All the 10xxx codes are long *gone*. You will have to wait for the four digit ones to be in universal use. Or buy some ma/pa in-state outfit hogging an xxx one and then you own it. ------------------------------ From: synchro@access1.digex.net (Steve) Subject: Re: Where Does ISDN Fit In? Date: 4 Jan 1995 12:05:55 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA ISDN is a digital scheme composed of two 64kb/s channels for voice/data/whatever and one 16 Kb/s channel that serves signalling purposes. As far as uses go, any of the following have been done: 1) remote lan connections; 2) compressed video teleconferencing; 3) internet access; 4) any dial-up data situation. These are just a few off the top of my head. Take it easy, Steve ------------------------------ From: robbie@hermes.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) Subject: Looking For Mail Order Cellular Accessories Date: 4 Jan 95 03:54:48 GMT Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine I'm looking for a mail order outlet in either Canada or the U.S. which carries NMH batteries for my Motorola cellular phone. Can anyone suggest good, reliable companies? Rob Arrabito e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca ------------------------------ From: synchro@access1.digex.net (Steve) Subject: Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? Date: 4 Jan 1995 12:00:27 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA There is a company in California called Cylink. They make several different kinds of crypto gear for communications. I'm unable to come up with a telephone number for them at the moment. Take it easy, Steve ------------------------------ From: jeffb65582@aol.com (JeffB65582) Subject: Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? Date: 4 Jan 1995 10:20:38 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: jeffb65582@aol.com (JeffB65582) Many years ago I recall that the Collins Radio Division of Rockwell International manufactured a device known as a "T1 bulk encryption unit". It would take the entire 1.544 stream and encrypt it while still meeting the one's density requirements, etc. I don't know if they're still made, but that's where I'd start looking. Jeff Box ------------------------------ From: mpd@adc.com (Matthew P. Downs) Subject: Re: What is a T1 Line? Date: 4 Jan 1995 17:21:03 GMT Organization: ADC Telecommunications jhallen@world.std.com (Joseph H Allen) writes: > It does, because the original poster was concerned about that > bandwidth of the actual copper pair that came to his house. It's my > understanding that an ISDN DS0 is 56K digital line on a copper pair > between your house and the local office, not a shared T1 (although a > multiplexer at the local office my put it on a T1). The DS0 for ISDN is a 64 kbps clear channel. A 56 kbps is effective through put because the other 8 kbps is used for signalling overhead. In ISDN, you don't have this overhead, it's carried on the D channel. All DS0's that go to a line termination are 64 kbps. It's more of what is the effective bandwidth. Unless your circuit is provisoned to be a clear channel, it will have this 8K of overhead associated with it. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:23:59 -0800 From: wewood@ix.netcom.com (William Wood) Subject: Re: What is a T1 Line? It's been interesting to watch the thread of "What is a T1 Line" thru various net respondents, to say the least. I don't know what they are teaching in college or tech schools these days, but from some of the comments from people on the net, it has little relevance to the real world. I'm not an engineer but have some years experience as a technician and manager in the telephone industry and offer my observations as an assistance to those who wish to listen. First, what is the "T" in T1? It's the next letter in the alphabet after "S," and that's all the "T" means. Over the years I've heard people insist it stands for "terrestrial" or even "twisted pair" because the original system only worked on wire. Nice try but no cigar. All of the interoffice carrier systems prior to 1962 were analog and had single or double letter designations. I came into the game too late to work on the really early ones but I did maintain J, K, L, N1, N2, N3, O, ON, BN, and R type carrier systems. All are (were) analog and worked on twisted pair, coax or radio transmission facilities. The carrier system developed by Bell Labs and manufactured by Western Electric Company which was introduced to the Bell System in 1962 was digital and had the letter designation of "T" because it was the next letter to be used. (I don't know what happened to the "S," maybe it died in the labs?) The original hardware consisted of a "bank" of plug-in cards. There were three banks in a standard 19" "bay" (i.e. "rack"). Each bank was made up of a row of cards for transmit, a row of cards for receive and two rows of cards for channel units. The channel units were divided into two groups of 12 (a "digroup"). A 12 channel group was common in the analog systems and that concept was carried over to this system. Each of the channel units converted a standard range VF (voice frequency 300 to 3500 Hz) analog signal into a 64 Kbps DS0 (digital signal level zero). The bank produced a channelized digital time division multiplexed stream known as DS1 (digital signal level one). The bank hardware was collectively known as a "D1 Bank." The original "T1" carrier used a "D1" bank to produced a "DS1" digital stream. The stream was (is) 24 each 64 Kb channels (1.536 Mbps) plus 8 Kbps of framing for a total of 1.544 Mbps. Channel level signaling (off hook, dial pulses, etc.) was done by "bit robbing" (a type of channel associated signaling) within each channel stream. With all these individual cards, the system was difficult to maintain, but when it worked right it was light years ahead in channel noise compared to any of the existing analog systems. Over the years WECO brought out updates of digital banks and that is why there are D2, D3, D4 and D5 type banks in addition to all the "non-Bell" manufacturers hardware. Interesting to note that "D4" framing (as compared to Extended Superframe Format) is referring to the bit stream form standardized by a specific type of WECO bank. It's no wonder that many people now also confuse these bank hardware designations with the higher rate digital multiplexed streams. There is no direct relationship between D1, D2, D3, D4 banks and DS1, DS2, DS3, DS4 bit rates. This also adds mystery to what is meant by "T1, T2, T3, and T4," is it bank hardware or bit stream? The D1 banks transmit an Alternate Mark Inversion (AMI) signal over a 4 wire twisted pair (transmit on one pair, receive on the other) to a distance of around 6 thousand feet before regeneration. The 6 Kft was a standard spacing for "H" type load coils used in long analog voice grade pairs to improve speech quality. To bring up a cable for T carrier required a regen installed in the same pole mount or cable vault as the load pots, so the physical locations were easy to get to. Six thousand feet at 1.544 Mb was a major feat in 1962. The AMI cut the baud (symbol) rate considerably but it was still a very high equivalent frequency for the time. There are currently on the market a number of 'repeaterless' T type systems which can extend the cable distance up to 12 thousand feet with no regen. Short haul N type analog carrier systems typically had 10 to 15 MILE spacing between repeaters, so a digital T regenerator every mile seemed a bit complicated at the time. As to the ISDN Primary Rate, it is not a T1, if T1 is understood as a DS1 with 24 individual and unrelated DSO's. The physical access may be on two pairs (four wire) and the bit rate is 1.544 Mb, but the channel stack is different. One of the DSO 64 Kb time slots (channels) is dedicated (aka, common channel signaling) to control signaling, supervision and other data functions for the other 23 DSO (possibly voice) channels. This control channel is the "D" and the others are the "B" channels. Depending on the manufacturer, the system level hardware may be software configurable to look like a standard T1-DS1 or a ISDN PRI. Or it may take a different card altogether. With the exception of some Special Services applications, ISDN PRI does not run between telephone exchanges. Standardized trunking arrangements (frequently using a Common Channel Signaling system such as SS7) are used to carry traffic between exchanges. The issue of a low pass filter on 'ordinary telephone lines' is directly related to what that line is connected to. If we start with an example of POTS (plain old telephone service) phone connected to a mechanical switch such as a step by step (Stroger) switch - there are no filters. It's a purely physical wire connection from phone, to line, to switch, to line, to phone connection. Whatever frequency is applied to the line at one end will come out at the other, impaired only by the physics of the wire facility. This is still true today in the case of 'Metallic' or 'Wire Only' (no active devices) circuits. In data applications sometimes these are called Local Area Data Channels because they have to be 'local,' meaning they don't go thru switches or carrier systems. Whatever goes in, comes out, minus the line losses. If the line is connected to a analog or digital carrier system or to a digital switch, it will be subjected to limitation by a filter for the purposes of creating a standard 3 Khz voice channel bandwidth. This has been the standard since the earliest carrier systems and remains the standard today. This limitation is not a secret plot to limit modem bit rates. Nor is it a device to improve speech quality (although a companding process is normally used to improve the voice quality of the narrow VF channel). It was, and is, an engineering necessity for multiplexing multiple voice channels onto a limited transmission facility (either a bus in a switch or a copper, fiber or radio trunk facility for a carrier system). One net respondent suggested that you could ask as a 'courtesy' for the telephone company to remove the filter. They cannot remove this function without impacting other circuits in the shared switch or carrier system. They can however, move your wires to a different type of hardware which has wider analog or digital capacity. Then you no longer have POTS service, you would now have some type of Special Service circuit and would have to pay extra for it. Finally, there is a subtle difference between 'cross talk' and 'cross modulation.' Nit picking perhaps but cross talk takes place at the VF level and is commonly associated with a physical cable problem. If the pairs in a cable get wet (particularly pulp [paper] insulated pairs) the signal energy of one POTS call can bleed into another pair. Each person can hear others talking on their call. This problem is typical of the local loop side of a telephone exchange. Cross modulation takes place after the analog or digital modulation step is taken in a digital switch or an analog or digital carrier system. In digital (T) carrier systems cross mod usually results in white noise or frying in a conversation. Its unusual to hear distinct conversations crossing into your call. In analog systems cross mod allows distinct conversations to enter your call. Cross mod takes place on the interoffice or trunk side of an exchange. Not always easy to distinguish the two but helpful getting the problem fixed if you can do it. This is because often the repair folks who fix the local loop side are not the same folks who fix the trunk side. Trouble gets fixed faster if you give it to the right people first. I offer this as a help to my friends and wish to offend no one so please keep any flames to pilot light size. I don't know anyone in this industry who knows it all so we need to support each other as much as possible. WE Wood Technotranslater Techtrans Animatics Group ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #7 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa08047; 5 Jan 95 1:12 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA11233; Wed, 4 Jan 95 20:16:14 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA11226; Wed, 4 Jan 95 20:16:12 CST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 20:16:12 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501050216.AA11226@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #8 TELECOM Digest Wed, 4 Jan 95 20:16:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 8 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson More Administrivia, Errors, etc (TELECOM Digest Editor) OZLIP Reminder (Mehmet Orgun) GSM Book [Moulet &...] (Rupert Baines) US Contact: American Management System, Systemetic Inc. (Mr. Wah Chan) Wanted to Buy: Tekalek 221-C E-1 Test Set (pkt@ix.netcom.com) Re: Standard 19 Inches Network Relay Rack (Paul A. Lee) Re: AT&T First to Deliver Long-Awaited "Follow-Me" 500 Numbers (S. Donelan) Re: Looking For Mail Order Cellular Accessories (Michael Schuster) Re: Watching the Area Codes Split (David Leibold) Re: Watching the Area Codes Split (Mark Brader) Re: Roll Over/Hunt Group (Tim Gorman) Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code (Wayne Huffman) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 19:15:54 CST From: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor) Subject: More Administrivia, Errors, etc ... *if* you chose to pick up a copy of the 1992-1994 volume of the Accelerated Index from the archives .. well, there was a slight error in the way some items were keyed ... I found out when someone using the SEARCH command of the Email Information Service contacted me to say they were getting quite screwey answers in response to some searches he was making ... It was only announced yesterday, so most of you probably have not yet picked up a copy, and in all probability most of you will not want to bother keeping this humongous, 26,000 (yes twenty six thousand) line file at your site. But if you did take a copy prior to Wednesday at about 6:30 PM CST, do me a favor ... ditch it and go get another copy, one that has been corrected. What this is -- when it works correctly, as it is now -- is a complete index of the titles of articles which have been in the Digest for the past six years and the author names. You can either use SEARCH, which is a command in the email server, or you can simply go and pull the two files back to your site. There are two editions. One covers the years 1989-1991 and the other covers 1992-1994. Together, they constitute about 48,000 entries, the number of messages seen here over the past six years. They are sorted in strict alphabetical order by subject with any instances of 'Re:' where it appears ignored for the purpose of the sort. Where more than one article appears with the identical subject title, the sort continues further by author *first* name. When using grep or SEARCH (which is just a version of grep I put in the email server) you can search by subject name or author name. It is highly recommended that you use the most liberal grep possible, that is, with '-i' as the argument, so that case will be ignored. Also, if you choose to search by author, search the *last name only* since sometimes the first name appears as just an initial, i.e. P.Townson. If you are really interested, use the INFO command in the email server to get two other files you'll need to interpret the rest of the data shown in the accelerated index: INFO back-issues INFO search-hints Anyway, that's enough on the topic. I botched it, and I've repaired it, I think. I'm sure someone will tell me if that's not correct. ----------------- In other administrivia news: I've received a suggestion from a reader about having a 'human resources' section in the archives. This would be a place where anyone who wished to do so could put a paragraph or two about themselves for the benefit of other readers. It would be voluntary and would have no connection at all to the mailing list, which is never shared or revealed. Suggestions for things to include would be in addition to your name, address, phone number and company/school/institutional affiliation, perhaps a .signature file, a paragraph about your current project(s), prior accomplishments, etc. It would be removed/destroyed from the archives whenever you said to do so, or modified as required. *DO NOT SEND ENTRIES NOW* Just let me know what you think of the idea, and if you would want to have data about yourself there in the Telecom Archives. Should it be open and available to all to read? I can fix it so that it is blocked or denied to FTP/Gopher users while available on a passworded basis to email service users. If it is open to all to read you can be sure of receiving lots of junk mail ... :) If on a passworded basis, then only those who contribute entries of their own would get the password to read the biographies of the others ... in other words, give a biography of yourself, and read the others. Let me have your thoughts. *DO NOT SEND ENTRIES NOW*. PAT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 12:02:36 +1100 From: mehmet@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Mehmet Orgun) Subject: OZLIP Reminder Dear All, Please contribute to the success of ISLIP'95 by submitting a paper, posting/distributing the call for papers etc. I have posted it to a number of newsgroups already. I have also prepared a WWW home page for ISLIP'95. Check out the URL: http://krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au/~mehmet/islip95.html A PostScript version of the call for papers can be obtained from the above page as well as a LaTeX version. Cheers, Mehmet ------------------------- Call for Papers ISLIP'95 The Eigth International Symposium on Languages for Intensional Programming May 3-5, 1995, Macquarie University, Sydney, NSW, Australia Objectives There is a growing interest in computational models and/or programming languages and systems based on intensional logics such as temporal logic, interval logic, modal and intuitionistic logics. In fact, a whole new programming model called intensional programming has been created with applications in a wide range of areas including parallel programming, dataflow computation, temporal reasoning, scientific computation, real-time programming, temporal databases, spreadsheets, attribute grammars, and hardware synthesis. This symposium aims at bringing together researchers working in all aspects of this area, and to promote intensive discussions and foster collaboration among researchers. We encourage papers dealing with the theoretical foundations, design, implementation and prototype development issues, comparative studies, and applications, as well as those describing new challenges arising out of applications. The symposium will include, but will not be limited to, the following topics of interest (as they relate to intensional programming): Programming paradigms Semantics * dataflow computation * non-determinism * connectionist models * extended Kahn principle * logic programming * intensional concepts * real-time programming * termination issues * languages such as Lucid and GLU Software Engineering Applications * version control * signal processing * visual user interfaces * image processing * parallel programming * hardware synthesis * fault-tolerant systems * graphics * program verification * data models Submissions You are invited to submit either a full paper or an extended abstract of approximately 5000 words (10-15 double spaced pages). The cover page should include the name, phone/fax numbers and e-mail addres of the contact author(s), a short abstract, topic(s) and a list of keywords. Papers will be reviewed by the program committee for their originality, correctness, significance, and relevance to the symposium. We prefer PostScript or self-contained LaTeX submissions via electronic mail to either one of the e-mail addresses below. You can also send 3 hardcopies of your submission to one of the following addresses (chosen with respect to geographical proximity). Submissions should arrive no later than February 15, 1995. Edward A. Ashcroft / ISLIP'95 E-mail: ed.ashcroft@asu.edu Department of Computer Science & Eng Phone : +1 602 965-7544 Arizona State University Fax : +1 602 965-2751 Tempe, Arizona 85283, U.S.A. Mehmet A. Orgun / ISLIP'95 E-mail: mehmet@mpce.mq.edu.au Department of Computing Phone : +61 2 850 - 9570 Macquarie University Fax : +61 2 850 - 9551 Sydney, NSW 2109, Australia Authors will receive notification of acceptance by March 20, 1995. Revised versions of the papers to appear in the pre-proceedings to be distributed at the Symposium are due on April 12, 1995 (preferred in PostScript or LaTeX form, sent by email). The symposium will be held on May 3-5, 1995 at Macquarie University, Sydney, NSW, Australia. At the Symposium, the research will be presented and also evaluated, and it is planned that final polished papers will appear in the proceedings in book form. The details about registration and accommodation will be provided later. Symposium Chair Edward A. Ashcroft Arizona State University Program Committee Seiki Akama Teikyo University of Technology Edward A. Ashcroft Arizona State University Weichang Du University of New Brunswick Tony A. Faustini Arizona State University Jan Hext Macquarie University Tom Hintz University of Technology,Sydney R. Jagannathan SRI International Michael Johnson Macquarie University Steve Matthews University of Warwick Mehmet A. Orgun Macquarie University John Potter Microsoft Institute John Plaice University of Laval William W. Wadge University of Victoria Andrew L. Wendelborn University of Adelaide Kang Zhang Macquarie University Local Arrangements Mehmet A. Orgun Macquarie University Kang Zhang Macquarie University Important Dates Submission Deadline: February 15, 1995 Notification: March 20, 1995 Revised Versions due: April 12, 1995 Symposium: May 3-5, 1994 Further Information Contact: ed.ashcroft@asu.edu mehmet@mpce.mq.edu.au Latest information about the Symposium will be made available via the WWW page: http://krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au/~mehmet/islip95.html ------------------------ Mehmet A Orgun, Department of Computing, Macquarie University Sydney, NSW 2109, Australia Tel: +61 (0)2 850 9570, Fax: +61 (0)2 850 9551 E-mail: mehmet@mpce.mq.edu.au ------------------------------ From: Rupes@voyager.cris.com (Rupes) Subject: GSM Book [Moulet &...] Date: 4 Jan 1995 19:04:12 -0500 Organization: Concentric Research Corporation A couple of people have emailed me asking for this information, so I thought I should re-post it. The GSM book that seems to be most popular is: The GSM System for Mobile Communications Mouly & Pautet ISBN 2-9507190-0-7 tel +33 1 69 31 03 18 fax +33 1 69 31 03 38 It is a private printing - you have to contact the authors on number above. I have nothing to do with the authors and do not get commision. Which is a shame, as I've recommended it quite a bit Does anyone know of a US distributor ? (I suppose there may be copies on sale at CTIA or Wireless ?) Rupert Baines ------------------------------ From: johnnycw@HK.Super.NET (Mr Wah Chan) Subject: US Contact: American Management System, Systemetic Inc. Date: 4 Jan 1995 22:45:20 GMT Organization: Hong Kong Supernet Anyone know about the following companies: American Management System Systemetic Inc. Both companies specialize on Telephone Billing Systems. We need to know their US contact and also their Rep Office in HK or SE Asia. Suggestions on how to find such information are also welcomed. (e.g., sites where I can find out the address and telephone number of any US companies, etc.) Johnny Chan Internet Address: johnnycw@hk.super.net ------------------------------ From: PKT@ix.netcom.com (Pat) Subject: Wanted to Buy: Tekalek 221-C E-1 Test Set Date: 4 Jan 1995 22:55:24 GMT Organization: Netcom I'm told that the Tekalek (SP?) 221-C E-1 test set is no longer manufactured. So, I'm looking for someone that wants to sell a used one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:18:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Standard 19 Inches Network Relay Rack From: Paul A. Lee Organization: Woolworth Corporation In TELECOM Digest Volume 14 Issue 481, Jocelyn Poulin asked for suppliers of seismic-certified relay racks. Try the following: AMCO Engineering, Schiller Park, IL 708 671-6670 B-Line Telecom, Reno, NV 702 677-0855 (formerly Saunders Telecom) Chatsworth Products, Chatsworth, CA 818 882-8595 (formerly Dracon division of Harris) Equipto, Aurora, IL 708 859-1000 Hammond Manufacturing Co., Buffalo, NY 716 894-5710 Hendry Telephone Products, Goleta, CA 805 968-5511 Newton Instrument, Butner, NC 919 575-6426 Rittal Corp., Springfield, OH 513 399-0500 Zero/Stantron, Pacoima, CA 818 890-3445 Paul A. Lee Voice 414 357-1409 Telecommunications Analyst FAX 414 357-1450 Woolworth Corporation CompuServe 70353,566 INTERNET <=PREFERRED ADDRESS* ------------------------------ From: sean@sdg.dra.com (Sean Donelan) Subject: Re: AT&T First to Deliver Long-Awaited "Follow-Me" 500 Numbers Date: 4 Jan 95 18:14:32 CDT Organization: Data Research Associates, St. Louis MO In article , A Alan Toscano writes: > she moves within the United States. AT&T currently can assign > subscribers 500 numbers that begin with 20 different exchanges, such ^^ > as 346, 367 and 677. For example, a person's number could be According to the AT&T 1-800 line they only have four exchanges available. Does anyone know when (and what) other exchanges will be available? Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO ------------------------------ From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) Subject: Re: Looking For Mail Order Cellular Accessories Date: 4 Jan 1995 19:24:08 -0500 Organization: Public Access Internet & UNIX In article , G.Robert Arrabito wrote: > I'm looking for a mail order outlet in either Canada or the U.S. which > carries NMH batteries for my Motorola cellular phone. Can anyone suggest > good, reliable companies? Motorola 1-800-331-6456 Mike Schuster schuster@panix.com | 70346.1745@CompuServe.COM schuster@shell.portal.com | GEnie: MSCHUSTER ------------------------------ From: aa070@torfree.net (David Leibold) Subject: Re: Watching the Area Codes Split Organization: Toronto FreeNet Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:14:15 GMT Mike Morris (morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us) wrote: > The perfect location for area code 666 is Washington DC. Give the > entire code to the federal government. Keep all the non-goverment > stuff in the old area code. Canadian federal government offices in Vancouver BC have been on the 666 NXX for years. This included (at last report) the regional office of the CRTC which regulates telecom and broadcasting in Canada. David Leibold aa070@freenet.toronto.on.ca ------------------------------ From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) Subject: Re: Watching the Area Codes Split Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 23:10:10 GMT > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We went through this once before, a couple > years ago, and someone posted a list of all the places where the 666 > exchange appeared around the USA, in which area codes, etc, and if there > were any special users such as centrex accounts, etc on them. It seems > to me somewhere some government offices were on 666 in that area code; > maybe it was the IRS, I'm not sure. ...] Wrong country. From the Telecom Archives: > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 90 19:59:12 PDT > From: Jonathan Story > Subject: Re: 666 and Ignorant People > In Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (area code 604) the 666 > exchange is used by ... the Canadian Government. > jonathan@jspc.wimsey.bc.ca And our IRS analog, Revenue Canada, would certainly have an office in Vancouver. Mark Brader "'Taxpayer' includes any person msb@sq.com whether or not liable to pay tax." SoftQuad Inc., Toronto -- Income Tax Act of Canada, s.248(1) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 20:40:40 -0500 From: Tim Gorman Subject: Re: Roll Over/Hunt Group roodh@dds.nl (Hendrik Rood) writes in TELECOM Digest V14 #481: > In article , jon@server.branch.com (Jon > Zeeff) says: >> Ameritech tells me that they cannot roll over a trunk hunt where >> instead of starting with line one and picking the first free one, it >> always takes the next one after the last used one (ie, a circular >> hunt). Maybe I didn't use the right terminology. Does anyone know >> why they couldn't do this? > Even when this is possible it is very stupid to do circular hunting with > a standard trunk and a rollover trunk. What happens is simple described: > Suppose: Main trunk eight circuits > Rollover trunk four circuits. > Circular hunting results after at most eight incoming calls in usage > of the rollover trunk. Even when circuits on the main trunk are > released again. > This means that with circular hunting your rollover does not act as a > rollover anymore but simply as a trunk. I can understand software > writers of exchange manufacturers that block such a setup in their > code :-). This isn't quite true. With all circular hunt trunk groups I know of, the decision of whether or not to route advance to the next group is done each time a call origination is received. So if a trunk in the primary group is free at the time, it will get the next call. Circular hunt on primary high-alternate use combination does provide signficant benefits, especially if per trunk signaling is used. Circular hunt, if designed to always start hunting at the trunk following the one just picked, significantly decreases the impact of killer trunks on traffic capacity of the trunk group. Tim Gorman tg6124@ping.com Southwestern Bell Tel. Co ------------------------------ From: whuffman@ix.netcom.com (Wayne Huffman) Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code Date: 5 Jan 1995 01:59:07 GMT Organization: Netcom In Barton.Bruce@camb.com writes: > In article , primeperf@aol.com (Prime > perf) writes: >> Does anyone know the procedure for obtaining a 10XXX code? Where does >> one begin? What FCC forms and regulations are involved? Having >> obtained a 10XXX code, how does one get it incorporated into the PSTN? > You are a tad late. All the 10xxx codes are long *gone*. You will have > to wait for the four digit ones to be in universal use. > Or buy some ma/pa in-state outfit hogging an xxx one and then you own it. FYI The local cableco here in Fairfax County, VA (Media General Cable) has a 10XXXX code (106-500), used for ordering Pay-Per-View movies. I can't seem to get an answer from Bell Atlantic on how this was arranged. Is this a common practice, I wonder. Wayne H. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #8 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa14469; 5 Jan 95 14:52 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA28762; Thu, 5 Jan 95 08:02:22 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA28755; Thu, 5 Jan 95 08:02:19 CST Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 08:02:19 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501051402.AA28755@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #9 TELECOM Digest Thu, 5 Jan 95 08:02:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 9 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: What is a T1 Line? (Wally Ritchie) Re: What is a T1 Line? (Ed Goldgehn) Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax (Monty Solomon) Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax (Pat Clawson) Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code (Rahul Dhesi) Re: Watching the Area Codes Split (Tim Gorman) Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK (Jan Joris Vereijken) Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T (Wolf Paul) Re: Erlang Capacity (Tim Gorman) Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Paul Gloger) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: What is a T1 Line? Date: 5 Jan 1995 04:04:45 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , mpd@adc.com (Matthew P. Downs) writes: > jhallen@world.std.com (Joseph H Allen) writes: >> It does, because the original poster was concerned about that >> bandwidth of the actual copper pair that came to his house. It's my >> understanding that an ISDN DS0 is 56K digital line on a copper pair >> between your house and the local office, not a shared T1 (although a >> multiplexer at the local office my put it on a T1). > The DS0 for ISDN is a 64 kbps clear channel. A 56 kbps is effective > through put because the other 8 kbps is used for signalling overhead. Not exactly. > In ISDN, you don't have this overhead, it's carried on the D channel. Signalling is on the D channel but other overhead may also be involved. (see below) ... > All DS0's that go to a line termination are 64 kbps. It's more of > what is the effective bandwidth. Unless your circuit is provisoned to > be a clear channel, it will have this 8K of overhead associated with > it. ALL ISDN WITHOUT EXCEPTION is clear channel in the B channels. There is no ISDN transport mechanism that will ever modify the 8th bit. What the original poster was probably referring to as a "56K digital line" was most likely a DDS circuit. DDS is a four-wire (i.e. two pair) circuit with a bit rate of 64Kbps of which 56Kbps is available for data. DDS uses an AMI coding so that most of the spectral energy peaks around 32KHZ much like a T1 with 1.544mbps has its spectral peak around 772KHZ. ISDN BRI "Lines" in the US are normally single pairs that use a 2B1Q modulation scheme with 160kbps transmitted at 80K "quads" per second. The same pair is used for BOTH directions of transmission with adaptive echo cancellation used at both ends to cancel that ends transmit signal at it receiver so it "hears" only the other end. 80kqps 2B1Q has most of its spectral energy around 40KHZ which is not much higher than DDS. Of the 160kbps, 2 B channels of 64Kbps each and 1 D channel of 16Kbps are provided both of which are free of any coding restrictions as far as the "line" is concerned. The remaining 24kbps is used for overhead and maintenance functions. ALL forms of ISDN transport clear 64kbps bearer channels without coding restrictions. The 56K bps restrictions come up only when inter-working with non-ISDN segments that have coding restrictions which means most of the US intra-LATA networks. ISDN PRI in the US can be transported over T1 lines that employ B8ZS encoding instead of AMI. B8ZS has essentially the same spectrum as AMI but provides for transmission of any bit stream in the individual time slots. With PRI the D channel is 64KBPS leaving 23 B channels of 64KBPS (without coding restrictions) on the T1 with D channel and 24 B channels on any additional associated T1's. Channel Banks that support B8ZS T1 lines can also be used to transport the bit streams for BRI lines. In this case 1 or 2 timeslots are assigned as the B channel(s) and 1 timeslot (typically) is assigned as the D channel. In fact this may become the most common way ISDN is delivered to residential areas. ISDN BRI lines in US and the rest of the world are typically broken up for CPE interface to a four-wire S/T interface. In the US the conversion from the line to S/T interface is accomplished by an NT-1 which is CPE in the same sense that a DSU is CPE. Other CPE can, however, incorporate this functionality itself. The S/T lines are twisted pairs with separate transmit and receive pairs. The line code is inverted AMI baseband with a bit rate of 192kbps and spectral peak around 96khz. 144kbps is used for the payload B channels (64kbs each) and D channel (16kbs). The B channels AGAIN are clear channel. The remaining 48kbps is used for overhead functions including a protocol that allow any one of multiple devices to acquire the D channel. WORTH REPEATING! ISDN always provides a clear 64kbps B channel free of any coding restrictions whatsoever. If it don't it ain't ISDN. When the B channel inter-works with a non-ISDN network or service, however, coding restrictions may apply to the transport. ISDN segments will never modify the data stream. Non-ISDN segments can modify the stream in many ways including trashing the the 8th bit with signalling data, converting between A-Law and u-Law PCM, "TRUE VOICING" or other marketing gimmicks, echo control, signal level conversions, or even deliberate modifications to prevent users from sending data over connections setup as voice in order to avoid usage charges on data. In , wewood@ix.netcom.com (William Wood) writes: > The bank hardware was collectively known as a "D1 Bank." The original > "T1" carrier used a "D1" bank to produced a "DS1" digital stream. The > stream was (is) 24 each 64 Kb channels (1.536 Mbps) plus 8 Kbps of > framing for a total of 1.544 Mbps. Channel level signaling (off hook, > dial pulses, etc.) was done by "bit robbing" (a type of channel > associated signaling) within each channel stream. With all these I believe that the D1 system used the full 8th bit for signalling and a 7 bit PCM. This was something less than satisfactory so the robbed bit approach and an 8 bit PCM code was introduced in succeeding systems. Just for the record. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: edg@ocn.com (Ed Goldgehn) Subject: Re: What is a T1 Line? Date: 5 Jan 1995 02:44:54 GMT Organization: The INTERNET Connection, LLC In article , wewood@ix.netcom.com says: [one of the best explanations I've ever seen snipped] The only flames you should get are lighters in the air in lieu of applause. Ed Goldgehn E-Mail: edg@ocn.com Sr. Vice President Voice: (404) 919-1561 Open Communication Networks, Inc. Fax: (404) 919-1568 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:51:29 -0500 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax Reply-To: monty@roscom.COM > The announcement by CompuServe and Unisys that users of the GIF image > format must register by January 10 and pay a royalty or face lawsuits > for their past usage, is the online communications community's > equivalent of the sneak attack at Pearl Harbor. Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 01:27:59 EST Sender: cello-l@listserv.law.cornell.edu From: johnross@halcyon.com (John Ross) Subject: Future of .gif It's not quite as bad as first reported. This was posted on The WELL tonight: [TD Editor's Note: Text printed here yesterday. See previous issues. VP of Compuserve in essence says 'not our fault' and hoping things can be worked out. PAT] > Tim Oren > Vice President > CompuServe My analysis of this is that it's premature to panic. Depending on what UnySys does, there may be no problem. But it's probably time to find a replacement for .gif as the Web standard anyway. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And maybe a replacement for .git *has* been found -- already! See the next message in this series for one solution put together on the run by a few people. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 03:08:34 -0500 (EST) From: PATCLAWSON@delphi.com Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax An Open Letter to the Senior Management of CompuServe and the Online Communications Community: HOW TO SAVE GIF -- NOW !! Following last weekend's surprise announcement of the CompuServe-Unisys GIF Tax, we agree with many in the online communications community that a group is needed to create a new imaging format. New compression methods allow us to design a format that's smaller, more flexible, and ready to go the distance for our future needs. But let's take a hard look at the current crisis at hand. There are thousands of software products in the market featuring GIF support, from shareware to professional commercial packages. There are thousands of BBS systems and Web sites transmitting GIF images to online customers all over the world. What happens to these products and their developers when January 10th hits? Does the online community stop viewing GIFs online? Will Web Sites have holes in the HTML pages where the GIFs should have been? Will sysops be told to remove GIFs and GIF-related software from all non-CompuServe related systems? How many millions of dollars will be lost by software developers and sysops? Like all of us, we're waiting for a possible announcement from CompuServe and Unisys that may solve our problems. That same announcement may also seal GIF's demise. We need a backup plan if things don't go well. Some say GIF is dead. We think it's just broken. SO WE FIXED IT. We replaced the broken part - LZW compression. So now, we propose a remedy that may cure our problem in a timely manner. If CompuServe really wants to continue to provide the GIF format under the conditions of their original royalty-free license, but can't because of the patented Unisys LZW compression algorithm, the most painless cure is to substitute another compression scheme. Here's our fix. See what you think: * We just completed a two-day, no-sleep marathon to yank the LZW routines out of our GIF89a code and replace it with an open form of LZHUF. * In our testing, the LZHUF compression produced GIF files that were virtually identical in size to the LZW version. Some LZHUF images were slightly larger. * We have followed the GIF89a format specification to the letter, except for the part that defines the type of compression method used on the image data (LZHUF vs LZW). * We replaced all LZW functions in our GIF library with LZHUF functions. This two hour change to our software produced a completely functional GIF library (Interlaced, Comment Blocks, Masking Bits, Etc.). EVERYTHING WAS INTACT AND WORKING FINE WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR LZW. * We also wrote a program to convert the original GIF87a and GIF89a images to the LZHUF version of our proposed GIF format. There has been talk in this forum of a GEF (Graphics Exchange Format) or a GIF95a format, and even the replacement of the LZW part of GIF. We took the initiative and created GEF. We think GEF is a quick and viable solution to our problem. TeleGrafix Communications offers it to the online community FREE OF CHARGE as a public service. We are willing to upload our proposed GEF update with ALL SOURCE CODE intact so everyone can convert their current GIF files from the closed LZW form to the open LZHUF form. All we ask is that CompuServe give us its approval. Developers need make only minimal changes to their original GIF source code. It took us only two hours. Most GIF-based products that your customers own can be upgraded WITH JUST A PATCH FILE. GIFs and LZW would become unrelated immediately and we could get back the open, royalty-free format we have come to depend on. If CompuServe will not allow the compression method to be changed, then GIF is truly a dead format. We appreciate any comments on our proposal, especially from GIF's creators at CompuServe. If it is not supported by CompuServe or the online community, then it will be deleted along with all of our other GIF-related files. We will stay with JPEG, and search for an entirely new image format standard. Sincerely, Pat Clawson President & Chief Executive Officer TeleGrafix Communications Mark Hayton Vice President & Chief Technology Officer TeleGrafix Communications Inc. Phone: (714) 379-2140 Fax: (714) 379-2132 BBS: (714) 379-2133 Internet: rip.support@telegrafix.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Good luck with this! Let's hope the change in format can be accomplished with a minimum of effort on the part of all concerned. If your's will do the job, perhaps CIS should look at it and see if they can be accomodating. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code Date: 5 Jan 1995 10:55:45 GMT Organization: a2i network In whuffman@ix.netcom.com (Wayne Huffman) writes: > FYI The local cableco here in Fairfax County, VA (Media General Cable) > has a 10XXXX code (106-500), used for ordering Pay-Per-View movies. I > can't seem to get an answer from Bell Atlantic on how this was > arranged. I assume they talked with some IXC called 'EDS', which owns 10650. The next digit you dial is another zero, which leads to an operator. Rahul Dhesi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:50:27 -0500 From: Tim Gorman Subject: Re: Watching the Area Codes Split Sean E. Williams writes in TELECOM Digest V15 #3: >John Lundgren wrote: >> Someday there might just be a database that has your name, and the >> number associated with it, and all people will have to do is punch up >> your name, and not have to worry about a number. And it will be current. > Just like the internet Domain Name System. It could have been implemented > years ago, and then we wouldn't be having all the problems associated > with the NANP -- your neighbor could be in a different area code, and > you wouldn't even have to know or care, so long as you could remember > his name! > How about a system which provides a menu of available options? Start > out by entering a person's name. > Okay, so there are thousands of "Jim Smiths" in the US. At first, you > are presented with the one who lives closest to you (the city / street > would be displayed) or you could specify a specific location at the > start if you are calling a "Jim Smith" who lives several states away. > When you finally select the appropriate "Jim Smith", a menu appears > listing the following options: home, cellular, pager, fax, data, etc. > Select the option you wish, and you are connected to that service. > I don't know much about ISDN, but it's probably capable of doing this > right now if the appropriate software were to be written. I couldn't let this one go by. Is there anyone else out there who would expect the internet DNS to puke up if it had to handle a system the size of teh nationwide phone system? Especially with the daily change activity that has to be processed? Just keeping the 800 database current is a major undertaking. I cannot even imagine keeping a database of over two (actually closer to four isn't it?) billion potential nodes current, especially if it included mobile terminals which change second by second rather than daily, weekly or longer. Tim Gorman Southwestern Bell Tel Co tg6124@ping.com ------------------------------ From: janjoris@win.tue.nl (Jan Joris Vereijken) Subject: Re: NANP 800 numbers from the UK Date: 5 Jan 1995 11:30:01 +0100 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands Reply-To: janjoris@acm.org (Jan Joris Vereijken) Clive D.W. Feather wrote: > All of a sudden, I can now dial 1-800 numbers from the UK. There is a > few seconds of silence, and then an American female voice tells me > that this call will *not* be free, but charged at standard direct-dial > rates. If I don't want to pay, I should hang up now. I tried this in the Netherlands (from the 040-84 exchange located in Nuenen, near Eindhoven), and it didn't work. After I had dialed 00-1-800-xxx I got the "illegal number" tones. Previously, in the Netherlands, you could dial all digits of 1-800, but got a (Dutch) recording "this number cannot be reached". In 1993 this recording disappeared, and you couldn't dial further than 00-1-800-xxx. Just for the heck of it I tried it a dozen times, with differnt values of xxx. Alas, to no avail. What's happening? Is the Dutch PTT blocking calls that could be perfectly well completed? Or do the Britsh have a special agreement with the Americans that not valid in the Netherlands? Who knows more? ByeBye, Jan Joris [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It would not surprise me if a special deal was in place between the UK and the telcos here. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Wolf.Paul@aut.alcatel.at (Wolf Paul) Subject: Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T Date: 5 Jan 1995 09:01:11 GMT Organization: Alcatel Austria AG Reply-To: Wolf.Paul@aut.alcatel.at In article 10@eecs.nwu.edu, cornutt@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (David Cornutt) writes: >> I got one of those things. Unfortunately for AT&T, the phone number >> that they had on the check was not an actual line, but an old remote- >> call-forwarded number that I was retaining for personal reasons. >> As such, it was, of course, utterly impossible to make outgoing calls >> from that number. So the check went in the trash. I imagine that >> cashing it under those circumstances probably would have constituted >> fraud. That would be a very interesting question: Would it really constitute fraud if I cashed a check which someone has sent me without solicitation from me? After all, I agree to their switching this number, so I am fulfilling the condition they placed on me for cashing the check. It is **THEIR** problem that they did not do their homework properly. Now, if they advertised such a check for anyone requesting a switch, and I call them and have them send me a check in return for switching that number, knowing full well that it isn't a real line, then I could see calling this fraud. But not if the initiative was theirs. Well, we'll find out how this works over here in a couple of years. Austria just joined the EU, and the EU has decreed the end of telecom monopolies by the end of 1996 (or is it 1998)? We will all be faced with the same problems and privileges then. Wolf N. Paul, UNIX Support/KSR wnp@aut.alcatel.at Alcatel Austria AG +43-1-277-22-2523 (w) Scheydgasse 41/E26 +43-1-277-22-118 (fax) A-1210 Vienna, Austria (Europe) +43-1-220-6481 (h) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:30:57 -0500 From: Tim Gorman Subject: Re: Erlang Capacity ERU.ERUDYG@memo4.ericsson.se writes in TELECOM Digest V15 #2: > I am looking for information about Erlang Capacity Calculations for > land line based telecom networks. My main question is this: > In cellular, typical system design is according to Erlang B or Erlang > C traffic tables, and designed for 2% blocking (.02 G.O.S., Grade Of > Service). > Is this the same for land line?, local PSTN? long distance trunks? > international trunks? etc. Any information or source of information > for this would be useful. Grade of Service for all PSTN providers that I know of is 1% blocking. To provide this on tandem connections to interLATA carriers we utilize 0.5% blocking on our end office-access tandem links. I'm not sure what you are describing with the term "land line" since a land line has 100% grade of service to the CO by definition (this may not be true in some concentrated subscriber loop carrier systems but it should be pretty close). InterLATA toll and international toll grades of service are not in my area of expertise anymore but I'll be they are close to 1% blocking as well in most areas. We use Neil-Wilkerson tables for coming up with the number of trunks required. It's been a long time since I studied this but I think a simple explanation would be that these tables are Poisson tables with peakedness factors for non-smooth offered load. The Poisson tables would be equivalent to your Erlang B tables, I suspect. Again, it has been a while but I thought Erlang C was not used for figuring blockage to offered load on a trunk group but instead for figuring holding time in queue while waiting for answer. Are you sure you use Erlang C in trunk blocking or do I have my tables mixed up :-) ? Tim Gorman Southwestern Bell Tel. Co tg6124@ping.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 04:49:47 PST From: Paul_Gloger.ES_XFC@xerox.com Subject: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges From the Associated Press, as reported in the {Los Angeles Times}, Sunday, January 1, 1995: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Memphis, Tenn. - A woman listening to a police scanner she had gotten for Christmas picked up a conversation over cordless telephones and heard what turned out to be a murder plot unfolding, investigators say. Donna McGee tipped sheriff's deputies to what she had heard, and on Thursday a woman and her boyfriend were arrested and accused of conspiring to kill the woman's husband and make it look like a burglary gone awry. "It appears their motive was to collect the insurance money and get out of debt, and for them to continue their lives together," said Sheriff's Capt. Joe Ball. Jacqueline Lee Greene, 32, and Christopher Scott Davis, 21, were charged with conspiracy to murder her husband, James Kenneth Greene. Davis was also charged with criminal attempt to commit murder. McGee said the scanner chatter she heard Wednesday caught her attention fast. "I heard this man say: 'Are you sure you want to go through with this?' She said she was sure, and asked him if he was sure," McGee said Friday. "She asked him: 'Do you really love me enough to kill for me?' He said: 'Yes, I do. Do you have any doubts?'" The man and woman talked about having Davis enter the Greene house through a window, McGee said. "She said if he came through the unlocked patio door, there wouldn't be any sign of forced entry," McGee said. "She said: 'If you come through the window, Kenny will hear you and he'll come and that's when you shoot him.'" By this time some of McGee's family was listening. When the woman on the scanner called her daughter, McGee's daughter recognized a playmate's name. Eventually, the McGees said, they realized the identity of the intended victim. Greene "was just absolutely amazed, scared, shocked" when sheriff's deputies informed him of the plot against him, Ball said. Cordless telephones use radio waves to communicate between the handset and the base. Those radio waves can easily be intercepted by a police scanner. Ball said there was nothing illegal in McGee's listening to the cordless phone conversations because it was a random scanning. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's the first time I have ever heard of cordless phone monitoring being dismissed as 'nothing illegal' because it was 'random scanning'. You'd think they would rely on previous court decisions stating that cordless phones do not have the same protection as cellular phones ... or something ... but isn't all scanner listening essentially 'random'? PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #9 **************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa24012; 5 Jan 95 21:58 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA16473; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:08:34 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA16463; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:08:31 CST Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:08:31 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501052308.AA16463@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #10 TELECOM Digest Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:08:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 10 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Internet '95 Conference (Leona Nichols) 800 Numbers, How Important? (Paul Harts) Re: Telecom Group in Chicago (Maurice Givens) New Telecom Resource on the Internet (me@telematrix.com) Switch Features Information Wanted (Glenn Shirley) Videoconferencing Seminar in Rochester, NY (David C. Weber) Call Waiting and Caller-ID (Keith Knipschild) Cellphone ANI Now Being Given? (Keith Knipschild) Cellular Phone Pricing Question (John McGing) British Telecom Cuts Rates to Canada and U.S. (Dave Leibold) M2 Presswire Note (News Digest Reader Account) Need Profile of Teleport Communications Group (Linli Zhao) CAI Preferences by Service Providers (Alex Cena) Telecomix (Dave Leibold) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 10:15:26 PST From: Leona Nichols Subject: Internet '95 Conference TeleStrategies' Internet '95 Conference/Expo CONFERENCE TRACK Publishing, Marketing and Advertising on the Internet March 21-22, 1995 Tuesday, March 21, 1995 9:00-10:30 Session C-1 THE FUTURE OF INTERNET PUBLISHING Brewster Kahle, CEO, WAIS, Inc. John Curran, Product Manager, BBN Technology Services Stanley R. Greenfield, President, Dial-A-Book, Inc. and former Senior Vice President and consultant for Ziff-Davis Publishing Company 10:45-12:15 Session C-2 HOW TO MARKET AND ADVERTISE EFFECTIVELY Jeffrey Dearth, CEO, Electronic Newsstand, Inc. Andrew Frank, Director, Software Development Ogilvy & Mather Direct Duffy Mazan, Partner, Electric Press, Inc. 1:30-3:00 Session C-3 PUBLISHING ON THE INTERNET Laura Fillmore, President, Online Bookstore John Pierce, Electronic Publishing Specialist Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Brad Templeton, President, ClariNet Communications 3:30-4:00 Session C-4 ONLINE CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS Lee H. Stein, Chairman and CEO, First Virtual Holdings Incorporated 4:00-5:30 Session C-5 ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION OF INTERNET SECURITY Steven Lipner, Vice President, Trusted Information Systems, Inc. Kurt Stammberger, Technology Marketing Manager RSA Data Security, Inc. Raymond DeRoo, System Administrator, E-Znet Inc. Wednesday, March 22, 1995 8:30-10:00 Session C-6 COPYRIGHT AND LICENSING ISSUES Kathlene Karg, Assistant Director, Copyright and New Technology Association of American Publishers, Inc. Steve Metalitz, Partner, Smith & Metalitz Rebecca Lenzini, President, CARL Corporation 10:30-12:00 Session C-7 DOING BUSINESS ON THE INTERNET Phillip J. Selleh, Solutions Consultant Worldwide Alliance Team, AT&T Global Information Solutions Fernand A. Lavallee, Senior Associate Venable Baetjer Howard & Civiletti Nat Ballou, Technology Consultant, Software Products Division AT&T Global Information Solutions Arthur S. Rosenfield, President, Business Development Group, Inc. 1:30-3:30 Session C-8 COMMERCENET: A MODEL FOR BUSINESS-TO-BUSINESS ELECTRONIC COMMERCE Randall Whiting, Chair, CommerceNet Sponsors Steering Committee SESSION CHAIR Stacy Bressler, Worldwide Business Development Manager - Interactive Electronic Sales, Hewlett-Packard Company Robert Frank, Project Leader - Chief Scientist - Electronic Commerce/EDI, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Gail Grant, Vice President - New Business Development, Open Market, Inc. Mark Resch, Xerox Corporation Anita Schiller, Director of Electronic Marketing, Silicon Graphics, Inc. William Wong, CommerceNet Project Leader, Enterprise Integration Technologies WORKSHOP TRACK HOW TO DO BUSINESS ON THE INTERNET MARCH 21-22, 1995 TUESDAY, MARCH 21, 1995 9:00-10:00 Session W-1 BUSINESS USES OF THE INTERNET Howard McQueen, President, McQueen Associates 10:15-11:00 Session W-2 NETIQUETTE: HOW TO DO BUSINESS ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT GETTING FLAMED Paul Kainen, President, Kainen Technology Services 11:00-12:00 Session W-3 SECURITY 101 Alan Taffel, Vice President - Marketing, UUNET Technologies, Inc. 2:00-2:30 Session W-4 WRITING FOR THE INTERNET Ed Hott, Vice President - Sales, Interse Corporation 2:30-3:45 Session W-5 CREATING A BUSINESS PRESENCE ON THE INTERNET Duffy Mazan, President, Electric Press, Inc. 4:00-5:00 Session W-6 MARKETING AND MANAGING YOUR SERVER Scott Finer, President, HSF Consulting WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1995 9:00-9:45 Session W-7 HANDLING ONLINE CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS Representative, First Virtual Holdings Inc. 9:45-10:30 Session W-8 ONLINE PUBLISHING Laura Fillmore, President, Online Bookstore 11:00-12:00 Session W-9 CREATING A PROFITABLE ONLINE CATALOG Gregory Giagnocavo, Internet Consultant, Wentworth Worldwide Media 2:00-3:15 Session W-10 BUSINESS-TO-BUSINESS MARKETING ON THE INTERNET Robert Tobias, Senior Consultant, Regis McKenna Inc. PRE-CONFERENCE TUTUORIALS MARCH 20, 1995 Pre-Conference Tutorial -- Basic Level -- Session T-1 The Basics of Using the Internet for Business Monday, March 20, 1995 o 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. By John Buckley, Director of Training, Gestalt Systems, Inc. Pre-Conference Tutorial -- Advanced -- Session T-2 Understanding and Using Internet Resources and Improving Access Monday, March 20, 1995 o 9:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. By Howard McQueen, President, McQueen Associates Pre-Conference Tutorial -- Advanced -- Session T-3 COMMERCIAL WEB DEVELOPMENT Monday, March 20, 1995 o 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. By Duffy Mazan, President, Electric Press, Inc. EXHIBIT TRACK Exhibitors at past TeleStrategies Internet programs include: America Online Ameritech Library Services Gestalt Systems McQueen Associates PSI Inforonics Hybrid Networks, Inc. Spry, Inc. UUNET Legi-Slate Wentworth Worldwide Media WAIS, Inc. Internet Access Group EXHIBIT HOURS Monday, March 20 5:00-6:30 p.m. Tuesday, March 21 12:00-6:30 p.m. Wednesday, March 22 10:00-2:00 p.m. In addition to the exhibits, on March 21-22, seven exhibitors will do in-depth online demonstrations of their services. FOR INFORMATION ABOUT EXHIBITING AT TELESTRATEGIES INTERNET 95, CALL JACKIE MCGUIGAN AT 703-734-7050. FOR MORE INFORMATION, REGISTRATION OR A COMPLETE CONFERENCE BROCHURE: CALL (703)734-7050 FAX (703)893-3197 E-MAIL internet@telestrat.com (Please include ground address or fax number to receive the full conference brochure, which is not available on-line) PRE-CONFERENCE TUTORIALS -- March 20, 1995 (choose one) The Basics of Using the Internet for Business ...................$495 Understanding and Using Internet Resources and Improving Access..$495 Commercial Web Development.......................................$495 INTERNET CONFERENCE TRACK Plus workshops, exhibits and online demonstrations March 21-22, 1995................................................$985 ALL FOUR INTERNET 95 EVENTS A tutorial (please specify), conference, workshop, online demonstrations and exhibits March 20-22, 1995..............................................$1,395 INTERNET WORKSHOPS, DEMONSTRATIONS AND EXHIBITS March 21-22, 1995................................................$495 EXHIBITS ONLY March 20-22, 1995.................................................$10 HOTEL INFORMATION Sheraton Crystal City Hotel 1800 Jefferson Davis Highway Arlington, VA 22202 703-486-1111 CONFERENCE HOURS Registration begins at 8:00 a.m. on Monday and Tuesday. Session hours are 9:00-5:00 on Monday, March 20, 9:00-5:30 on Tuesday, March 21 and 8:30-3:30 on Wednesday, March 22. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 15:10:58 GMT From: P.P.W.M.Harts@research.ptt.nl (Paul Harts) Subject: 800 Numbers, How Important? Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands Hi, Recent research indicated that more than 25% of all 'long Distance Calls' in the United States is to an 800 number. Can any of you substantiate this percentage? And do you know if is it measured in frequency of use or in minutes? Thanks in advance, Paul email: P.P.W.M.Harts@research.ptt.nl mail : Winschoterdiep OZ 46 P.O. 15000 9700 CD Groningen Netherlands ------------------------------ From: maury@tellabs.com (Maurice Givens) Subject: Re: Telecom Group in Chicago Organization: Tellabs, Inc. Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:32:20 GMT In article logicarsch@aol.com writes > I do market research specializing in telecommunications. I'm looking > for a telecom organization that I can join that has a Chicago chapter. > Specifically, I'm looking for a group that has meetings, seminars and > get-togethers, a little newsletter, etc. etc. for a hundred or two > hundred bucks a year. Can someone clue me in? Thanks! > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You know, to show you what a hermit I > have become the past few years, my answer to your question would have > to be 'I do not know'. Seriously, I don't. Maybe we should start > one, or some sort of telecom discussion group, social, etc. PAT] As former chairman of the Chicago Chapter of the IEEE Comunications Society, I would like to invite you to our Chapter meetings. These meetings are frequented by local telecom engineers and researchers. Additionally, our meetings address timely issues concerning the telecom industry. For more information on metings of the Communications Society, or to get in contact with the current chairman, you may call the Chicago IEEE office at 1 800 898 IEEE (1 800 898 4333). All interested parties are invited to our meetings. Maurice "Maury" Givens PP ASEL IA AGI IGI maury@tellabs.com Ham Radio: N9DC ------------------------------ From: Me@telematrix.com Subject: New Telecom Resource on the Internet Date: 5 Jan 1995 18:44:53 GMT Organization: TZ-Link, a public-access online community in Nyack, NY. Our company, Telematrix Communications, has recently opened a new site on the World Wide Web called "telematrix.com." So far as we know, it's the only site devoted entirely to telecommunications information and we aim to become the main listening post and forum for people interested in this field. Our target audience includes both professionals and users of all sorts. We are contacting you because we seek your input. We would like to know what telecommunications information or resources you want or need that are not already readily available on the Internet. In addition, we solicit your reaction to our site and suggestions for any improvements. At present, we have a free calendar of telecom events, new product announcements, softwasre, practical "tips" on telecom cost savings, newsletters, magazines and educational/training resources, plus much more. Telematrix.com can also be accessed by gopher, ftp and telnet. Thank you for your interest. http://www.telematrix.com/ ------------------------------ From: shirleyg@stanilite.com.au (UL ENG) Subject: Switch Features Information Wanted Date: 6 Jan 1995 04:26:19 +1100 Organization: Stanilite Electronics Pty. Ltd. Sydney, Australia Does anyone know of a standard or recommendations for features in B number analysis type tables ie. someone dials 414-xxxx and the switch knows to throw away the 414 and replace it with say 555 or strips it entirely or dials 414-yyyy where yyyy is a certain offset from xxxx. I need to know what minimum features should be available in a switch's number translation type functionality. Standards can be CCITT(ITU), EIA or whatever. Alternatively decent books that deal with the subject. Hope the above made sense. Glenn ------------------------------ From: David C. Weber Subject: Videoconferencing seminar in Rochester, NY Date: Thu, 05 Jan 95 16:20:18 EDT Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link There will be a free Personal Videoconferencing seminar in Rochester, NY on Thursday January 19, 1995. The Seminar is sponsored by: PicturePhone Direct, Intel, and Frontier Communications. The seminar will include hands on demonstrations and presentations with Intel's ProShare Videoconferencing system, Frontier Communications ISDN services, and System integration by PicturePhone Direct. There will be two individual sessions:Session 1 from 10:30am-12:30pm, and Session 2 from 1:30pm-3:30pm. The Seminar will be held at 180 South Clinton Ave. Rochester, NY. For reservations or information please call 1-800-810-9966 or email to pp000231@interramp.com. ------------------------------ From: keith.knipschild@asb.com Organization: America's Suggestion Box - BBS (516) 471-8625 Date: Thu, 05 Jan 95 00:44:32 Subject: Call Waiting and Caller-ID I got the lastest edition of the HELLO DIRECT Catalog (Spring 95) today, and I noticed on page 24, they are selling a Northern Telecom PowerTouch 225 w/Caller ID. This phone has capabilites for different modules. The ad states: " Caller ID, Call Waiting Module - coming in mid-95 You'll see who's on a call waiting call, without interupting the call you're already on." Is this possible yet? Anywhere? " Also in LATE-95 a new module called "ADSI" is comming. It will help doing banking, paybills, and such -- by phone." What is ADSI? Keith.Knipschild@asb.com ------------------------------ From: keith.knipschild@asb.com Organization: America's Suggestion Box - BBS (516) 471-8625 Date: Thu, 05 Jan 95 00:44:31 Subject: Cellphone Now Giving ANI? I guess NYNEX Mobile has made some progress, Today I dialed 1-800-MY-ANI-IS from my Cellular phone ... and guess what ... it came back with my cellular phone number. In the past it would come back with a WEIRD number. Is NYNEX Mobile the first company to pass along the ANI from cellular phones? Keith.knipschild@asb.com ------------------------------ From: jmcging@access.digex.net (John McGing) Subject: Cellular Phone Pricing Question Date: 4 Jan 1995 21:51:09 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Reply-To: jmcging@access.digex.net I have a car phone on Cell One here in the Baltimore area. The plan is $24.95 a month plus $.39 or $.37 per minute prime and $.19 or $.17 per minute off-prime (I don't have my bill handy.) Anyway, where I work we have a big employee assocuation that recently announced they had some special pricing plans from both Bell Atlantic Mobile and Cell 1. I'm not sure but think each was offering the same pricing scheme which was (per BAM): Pay the employee association $25.00. BAM monthly charge becomes $8.95. Per minute charges were the same as under the existing plan (above). This requires a three year contract. Cell One showed up, and sold about 200 accounts then told the employee association that they had run out of slots and packed up and left. BAM is coming back two more times next week. (They actually walk out to the parking lot and reprogram your phone as part of the sale. I found that interesting.) Anyway, I have a couple of questions: Even including the $25.00 year to the employee association, the monthly base cost is $11.03 month vs $24.95. Over three years that's $167.00 x3 or over $500.00 in savings. Is this deal too good to be true? The three year thing doesn't worry me (we're NOT moving and the car phone we have is a real top drawer Motorola we can switch to a new car.). Should it? And why would Cell One only have 200 "slots"? BAM was doing a land office business. I called Cell One to see if they could match the BAM pricing, the sales rep said no and said he understood why I would want to switch and said to call them when I wanted the service terminated! . Appreciate any insight on whether this is a switch that makes sense to do. John jmcging@access.digex.net jmcging@ssa.gov J.MCGING on GEnie 70142,1357 on Compuserve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 00:20 EST From: dleibold@gvc.com (Dave Leibold) Subject: British Telecom Cuts Rates to Canada and U.S. British Telecom calls from the UK to Canada and the U.S. will cost about 20% less effective February 1995, according to a BT announcement reported by the Associated Press. The cuts were reportedly authorized by the UK regulator last year as part of a price reductions scheme. The sample rate given was for a three minute call at the lowest rate period: the former rate was equivalent to CAD$3.14; the new rate will be CAD$2.49. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Do you think this price reduction is somehow tied in with the recent ability to dial 1-800 numbers in the USA from the UK as Clive pointed out a couple days ago? 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We've deliberately not appended the material in order not to trouble you further. Thank you for your time. We hope to see you as a regular user of M2 Communications' resources in the future. Sincerely, M2 COMMUNICATIONS LTD Darren P. Ingram (di@m2comms.demon.co.uk) -- Please note new e-mail address M2 Communications Ltd. Reptile Hse, 20 Heathfield Rd, Coventry CV5 8BT, UK Tel: +44 (0)1203 717417/Fax: +44 (0)1203 717418/Tlx: 94026650 DBRIG Publishers of Telecomworldwire, Service Communications, Internet Business News M, Data Broadcasting News and now M2 PRESSWIRE (info@m2comms.demon.co.uk) ------------------------------ From: lzhao@wellfleet.com (Linli Zhao #8277) Subject: Need Profile of Teleport Communications Group Date: 5 Jan 1995 16:18:16 GMT Organization: Wellfleet Communications, Inc. Reply-To: lzhao@wellfleet.com I need any information known about Teleport Communications Group (TCG). Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Linli Zhao Internet: lzhao@wellfleet.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 95 11:56:18 EST From: Alex Cena Subject: CAI Preferences by Service Providers I am trying to build a list of air interface preferences by US cellular and PCSservice providers. Any comments, corrections, additions, etc. would be highly appreciated. Service Provider Air Interface Comments CELLULAR AirTouch CDMA Full Svc in San Fernando Jun 95 Ameritech CDMA Construction starts 3Q95 Bell Atlantic TDMA Likely to switch to CDMA Bell South TDMA Under Construction GTE CDMA Under Construction in Austin, TX McCaw TDMA Commercial NYNEX CDMA Trials Southwestern Bell TDMA Commercial Sprint CDMA Under Construction US West CDMA Svc in Seattle Mid '95 PERSONAL COMMUNICATION SERVICES McCaw/AT&T ? Wireless Co ? Pacific Bell DCS1900 Bell South DCS1900 SouthwesternBell DCS1900 APC DCS1900 Go Communications DCS1900 GTE CDMA AT&T/Cable&Wireless CDMA PCS Primeco CDMA Ameritech CDMA OmniPoint DS1900 Thanks in advance, Alex M. Cena, acena@lehman.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 00:22 EST From: dleibold@gvc.com (Dave Leibold) Subject: Telecomix Highlights of some of the newspaper phunnies with phone topics in recent months: Charlie 13 Dec 94: [at a police station] "If he wants to use his one phone call under the Miranda rule to call a TV shopping club, that's his right, John." Mixed Media 10 Oct 94: Introduced the concept of "MCI Friends and Royal Family ... for those making 300 calls to the same number." The Better Half 28 Aug 94: Stan invites Harriet to call his "Hubby Hotline" for $3.99/minute. Animal Crackers 14 Nov 94: [Lyle the ever-jilted lion phoning his ever-unrequited love:] "Lana's installed call forgetting" On The Fastrack 10 Oct 94: The newly-wed Bud & Chelonia are seen having their first fight - namely an net flame war. Finally ... {Mad Magazine} #332 had an article full of cell phone comics. I won't spoil those ones, though ... [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am curious: Who is running {Mad Magazine} now that Bill Gaines has passed away? It was his thing for all the years it operated until his death. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #10 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa29154; 5 Jan 95 23:00 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA18279; Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:24:07 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA18272; Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:24:05 CST Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:24:05 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501060024.AA18272@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #11 TELECOM Digest Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:24:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 11 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Joel B. Levin) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Christopher Zguris) Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code (Sander J. Rabinowitz) Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code (James J. Sowa) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (William H. Sohl) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Matthew P. Downs) Re: Seeking White Pages on CD or Disk (Andrew C. Green) Re: AT&T First to Deliver Long-Awaited "Follow-Me" 500 Numbers (J Costello) Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax (Marc Collins-Rector) Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax (Brad Hicks) Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax (Tony Waddell) Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax (Wolf) Re: Where Does ISDN Fit In? (John Dearing) Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK (Clive D.W. Feather) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 05 Jan 1995 15:03:13 GMT Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc. In article Paul_Gloger.ES_XFC@xerox.com writes: > Ball said there was nothing illegal in McGee's listening to the cordless > phone conversations because it was a random scanning. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's the first time I have ever heard > of cordless phone monitoring being dismissed as 'nothing illegal' because > it was 'random scanning'. You'd think they would rely on previous court > decisions stating that cordless phones do not have the same protection > as cellular phones ... or something ... but isn't all scanner listening > essentially 'random'? PAT] You're kidding, right? This is policeman ("Sheriff Capt.") talking, not a lawyer or judge. Count on the court decisions coming up when the defense starts arguing in court. Regards, JBL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:12 EST From: Christopher Zguris <0004854540@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's the first time I have ever heard > of cordless phone monitoring being dismissed as 'nothing illegal' because > it was 'random scanning'. You'd think they would rely on previous court > decisions stating that cordless phones do not have the same protection > as cellular phones ... or something ... but isn't all scanner listening =============================== > essentially 'random'? PAT] ==================== Once you have a scanner programmed to scan 46-49 MHz and find a neighbor(s) cordless phone, you're going to keep the scanner programmed for that range. The only thing in the cordless-phone frequency range are cordless phones, no police, no EMS, no fire department, no Secret Service, no FBI, no broadcasts from Air Force One (Okay, cordless baby monitors, wireless headphones, and wireless intercoms and other stuff like that also broadcast in that range). If someone has their scanner set in _that_ range they're probably looking for cordless phones, no? Of course, wireless headphones _also_ use that range, maybe _that's_ what is being "randomly" scanned for :-) ? Cell phones are another matter, a listener with a scanner modified to get that range will hear little "snippets" of conversations before the phone changes frequencies or cells, that's definately "random". But as for cordless phones, most/all will stay on the same frequency for the entire call, much to the delight of the avid snooper with nothing better to do. Christopher Zguris czguris@mcimail.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The most bizarre instance of this I have yet to encounter or hear about was reported to me the other day. It seems some old biddy with nothing better to do was listening in on her neighbor using her cordless phone via her scanner. She overheard what she believed was this woman discussing a plan to murder someone and she reported it to the police. The cops had a big raid of the house, lots of hoopla, the whole routine. It turns out the neighbor and the person she was talking with were *rehearsing lines for a school play they were both in*. They were reading their scripts over the phone and learning their lines. The cops let it slip out who it was that called them; now Biddy has something else to do with her time and money. She had to hire an attorney to defend herself in a suit against her for bearing false witness against her neighbor. Cordless phone monitoring is merely the 1990's version of what nosy people used to do many years ago, long before cordless phones were invented and when four and eight party telephone lines were common. In those days -- I am talking 1930-50 now -- when several people shared the same telephone pair in a 'party line' arrangement, the ringing voltage for the bell was sent at different frequencies (or electrical cycles) so that one bell on the party line would ring but the rest would not. The trouble is, all the other bell clappers would give a slight 'tick' when the ringing voltage came down the line. Unless you were standing right next to the phone listening closely, you'd never hear the 'tick' from your bell clapper when someone else's phone was actually ringing. The way the snoops overcame that 'problem' was to set their phone instrument inside a galvanized wash-tub. That would amplify the 'click' by several magnitudes so that wherever they were in their house, on their front porch or whatever, they would hear it. Someone down the street gets a phone call; everyone else on the block would hear that 'click click' from their own phone. Remember, these were the very old-fashioned, all steel, very heavy desk phones of the 1940's. When they heard that clicking from the bell clapper, in their house they would go, if they were not there already, and soon the legitimate called party would have two or three eavesdroppers on the instruments at their homes listening to the conversation, typically with a rag over the mouthpiece to cover up background noise at their end. When I was twelve years old, I had a freind who was the same age. We had a private line but his parents had a four-party line. We would call each other from time to time and have the sort of conversations on the phone that twelve year old boys have with each other. One day the call got sort of raunchy from his end, and right in the middle of it came that unmistakeable click of a reciever somewhere going off hook. Most party line subscribers were courteous; they would say 'excuse me' and replace their recievers, or maybe just hang up without speaking, but at least you heard that *second* click to assure yourself they were gone from the line. This time the off hook click was heard and I started to shush my friend. "Better shut up! Someone's listening." "Oh," he said gleefully, "that's just Mrs. Winchell. That old witch has been our party line neighbor for years! Why, if she doesn't know everything we do and talk about over here by now, she never will find out!" ... pause, shocked silence on my end ... then that awaited second click as Mrs. Winchell replaced her receiver. PAT] ------------------------------ From: AHDNN1A.SRABIN01@eds.com (Sander J. Rabinowitz) Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 17:10:00 -0500 On 5 Jan 1995, Wayne Huffman writes: > FYI The local cableco here in Fairfax County, VA (Media General > Cable) has a 10XXXX code (106-500), used for ordering Pay-Per- > View movies. I can't seem to get an answer from Bell Atlantic > on how this was arranged. Actually, what you've got there is really 10650+0. The carrier access code, plus zero, gives you the operator for that carrier. For example, 10288+0 gets you AT&T's operator. I don't think anyone has a six-digit carrier access code yet, although I do find it curious that a cable system (presumably not as yet a telephone company) has the use of its own carrier access code. /Sandy/ EDS/Saturn, 100 Saturn Parkway #F10, Spring Hill, TN 37174. Internet: ahdnn1a.srabin01@eds.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Is this any stranger than a newspaper having a three digit number of its own, ie 311, like that newspaper in, where is it, Georgia? PAT] ------------------------------ From: jjs@coolnme.ih.att.com (James J. Sowa) Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code Organization: AT&T Network Wireless Systems Busines s Unit Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:51:47 GMT In article , Prime perf wrote: > Does anyone know the procedure for obtaining a 10XXX code? Where does > one begin? What FCC forms and regulations are involved? Having > obtained a 10XXX code, how does one get it incorporated into the PSTN? But welcome to 1995!! I haven't seen the discussion on 101XXXX codes yet. Carrier codes are growing into that fourth digit now. From the information I have seen the carrier code 5000 will be the test number. These new four digit carriers are supposed to be assigned as soon as the available three digit codes run out. I wonder who the lucky carrier will be with the first four digit code assigned to them? Jim Sowa ------------------------------ From: whs70@cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 5 Jan 1995 11:35:17 -0500 Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore) In article , wrote: > In , naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber) > writes: >> What kind of noise/distortion does American-style bit-robbing cause to >> voice band signals transmitted through PCM channels? > In the U.S., most intermachine trunks are common channel direct > connections so only the robbed bit at each end of the IC/EC connection > introduces the robbed bit (as well as ny non CCS systems in the EC). Today, most end-to-end voice connections do not include any trunking which uses robbed bit signalling. The great majority of local trunking, especially in metro areas, has all been converted to CCS. One way to determine the probability of what type of local trunking is in your area is if caller ID is available. If you can have caller ID, then the local trunking is using CCS and thus no robbed bit signaling is involved at that end of any connection. Bellcore NISDN Hotline Technical Consultant (1-800-992-ISDN) Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.) Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70 201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com ------------------------------ From: mpd@adc.com (Matthew P. Downs) Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 5 Jan 1995 13:23:28 GMT Organization: ADC Telecommunications jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com (Jeffrey Rhodes) writes: > I'm not a modem expert but I would answer "none". If a call connection > is made on a bit robbing DS0 within a DS1, then the modems will settle > for some transparent speed (9600bps) during the initial negotiation. I > don't think the V.34 modems will connect at 28k8 when bit robbing is > present. > There really aren't many circuits like these, especially for long > distance calls. Most bit-robbing occurs on intra-LATA (I think) by > LECs that haven't updated circuits that are being depreciated over a > 40 year period. Unless you use ISDN, you are using robbed-bit signalling between your premise and the Cetral Office. Unless like a previous poster had stated, the robbed bits only become inportant during call set-up and tear-down. Ie. going on-hook and off-hook. Otherwise the robbed bits will be 1's. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:28:47 CST From: Andrew C. Green Subject: Re: Seeking White Pages on CD or Disk swar@infinet.com (Scott Warbritton) writes: > I'm not sure if such an animal exists, but I'm looking for white pages > for the entire country on either CD or Disk. [...] > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They're out there. Some are of dubious > value in terms of accuracy. PAT] You could start with your local library. By coincidence, just last night I was playing with White Page listings for the entire United States on CD-ROM at the public PCs in the Arlington Heights (IL) public library. Several PCs, complete with Canon Bubblejet printers, are available for free public use of a selection of database services, including White Pages and business listings via CD-ROM, current as of August, 1994. The setup obtained by the library is dubbed "InfoNet" and comprises a variety of name brand software which announces itself at the start of the session, so if you like the particular database you're using, you can presumably seek it out for private purchase. Andrew C. Green (312) 266-4431 Datalogics, Inc. Internet: acg@dlogics.com 441 W. Huron Chicago, IL 60610-3498 FAX: (312) 266-4473 ------------------------------ From: jpc@unix.restrac.com (John Costello) Subject: Re: AT&T First to Deliver Long-Awaited "Follow-Me" 500 Numbers Date: 5 Jan 1995 17:36:02 GMT Organization: RESTRAC, INC. Here is the current list of exchanges which AT&T can use for their 500 numbers. This is current as of 1/5/95. 288 346 367 677 437 442 443 445 446 447 448 449 488 673 674 675 679 John ------------------------------ From: Cyber@cris.com Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax Date: 5 Jan 1995 17:00:32 GMT Organization: Concentric Research Corporation Reply-To: Cyber@cris.com In , PATCLAWSON@delphi.com writes: > An Open Letter to the Senior Management of CompuServe and the Online > Communications Community: We applaud Pat Clawson and Telegraphic's attempt to build a consensus within the industry on how to deal with the LZW issue. > If CompuServe really wants to continue to provide the GIF format under > the conditions of their original royalty-free license, but can't > because of the patented Unisys LZW compression algorithm, the most > painless cure is to substitute another compression scheme. Here's our > fix. See what you think: We urge Compuserve and our fellow Telecommunication Industry peers to adopt this or a similar proposal in order to quickly deal with this issue. Marc Collins-Rector C.E.O. Concentric Research Corporation -- 400 41st Street, Bay City, Michigan 48708 Voice:517-895-0500 or 800-745-2747 Data:517-895-0510 or 800-991-2747 Fax:517-895-0529 Email: Custserv@cris.com The Concentric Network -- Home of BBS Direct, CRIS and Concentric Internet Services. ------------------------------ From: /G=Brad/S=Hicks/OU1=0205465@mhs-mc.attmail.com Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 12:22:20 -0600 Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax In TELECOM Digest 15.9, monty@roscom.COM suggests we replace the GIF "standard," and PATCLAWSON@delphi.com, a VP at TeleGrafix Communications Inc., offers us Yet Another Graphics standard. Will I be lynched if I point out that there is a competing standard to GIF, one that big chunks of The Network are using already? It's called JPEG, or ".jpg". The last time I glanced at any of the alt.binaries.pictures hierarchies, there were more jpg files than GIFs. JPEG may be slightly lossy, but it offers sixteen thousand times the color resolution in files typically a third the size of a GIF. That's ONE THIRD or less of the size ... just think how much happier =that= would make people running Web browsers over 14.4 kb/sec links. OK, so it's an old argument. But with the GIF "standard" now dependent on a UNISYS patent, it looks to me like it's time to re-examine the arguments. PATCLAWSON points out that it would be easy to write a converter from GIF to GEF. There are =already= scads of converters from GIF to JPEG, running on just about every platform. Any more, most graphics packages that can read GIF can also read JPEG. So why reinvent the wheel? So OK, you're determined not to use a lossy algorithm. Fine, there's also =another= bitmapped graphics standard. TIFF. So I repeat, what do we need Yet Another bitmapped graphics standard for? J. Brad Hicks Internet: mc!Brad_Hicks@mhs.attmail.com X.400: c=US admd=ATTMail prmd=MasterCard sn=Hicks gn=Brad ------------------------------ From: Tony Waddell Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax Date: 5 Jan 1995 15:37:57 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Good luck with this! Let's hope the change > in format can be accomplished with a minimum of effort on the part of all > concerned. If your's will do the job, perhaps CIS should look at it and > see if they can be accomodating. PAT] This reminds me of the time when SEA sued Phil Katz over using the ARC extension. I know its not quite the same thing, but similar results could happen. When was the last time you saw an arc file? And is SEA even still in business? ------------------------------ From: cmwolf@cs.mtu.edu (Wolf) Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 15:47:22 EST Reply-To: cmwolf@cs.mtu.edu Pat, Someone (jadietri@mtu.edu) here at the school contacted Tim Oren of CompuServe Incorporated and received the following reply: ---------------- From: Tim Oren, CompuServe Incorporated In 1987, CompuServe designed the Graphics Interchange Format (GIF) specification for graphics files. The GIF specification incorporated the Lempel Zev Welch (LZW) compression technology. In early 1993, Unisys notified CompuServe of patent rights granted to LZW. At that time, CompuServe began negotiating with Unisys to secure a licensing agreement. This agreement was reached in mid-1994, and CompuServe then initiated a process to secure a similar license that would benefit its GIF developer community. Following the agreement reached between CompuServe and Unisys, CompuServe announced the Graphics Interchange Format (GIF) Developer Agreement, shortly after its completion, on December 29, 1994. This agreement is aimed at GIF developers who are developing programs and shareware primarily for use in conjunction with CompuServe. The service offers a license to these developers to use LZW technology in programs written to the GIF specification. CompuServe remains committed to keeping open the GIF 89a specification both within CompuServe and in areas outside CompuServe. CompuServe continues to strongly support the use of the GIF specification in the entire online community including the Internet and World Wide Web. This agreement will be transparent to end-users and will not result in any charges for people using viewers or transmitting GIF images. The agreement offers software and shareware developers who use the LZW technology in their GIF programs protection under a software license that CompuServe is authorized to grant under the agreement with Unisys. Developers who choose to take advantage of this service would acquire the rights to use the LZW technology in certain software and shareware developed primarily for use in conjunction with CompuServe. Developers who choose to participate in this agreement within the implementation period will also benefit in that Unisys has agreed not to pursue royalty claims for past use of the LZW technology in GIF. The implementation period has been extended to January 31, 1995. CompuServe has presented this new agreement as a service to its GIF developer community. Cost to developers will be a $1.00 one-time licensing fee and a royalty payment of 1.5 percent or $0.15, whichever is greater, per registered copy of a program containing the LZW technology. CompuServe will not profit from this service. CompuServe encourages developers to work with Unisys directly if the GIF Developer Agreement does not meet their needs. Unisys is continuing to make the LZW technology available to any interested parties under reasonable and non-discriminatory terms. Developers are not required to register with CompuServe. Registering with CompuServe is simply one option for addressing the Unisys LZW patent issue. Developers may want to consider consulting with legal counsel. CompuServe is committed to keeping the GIF 89A specification as an open, fully-supported, non-proprietary specification for the entire online community including the World Wide Web. Whether they choose to register with CompuServe or not, developers are encouraged to continue use the GIF specification within their products. A copy of the GIF Developer Agreement is available in the Library section of the CompuServe Graphics Support Forum (GO GRAPHSUP) and will shortly be posted to CompuServes World Wide Web page (HTTP:\\WWW.COMPUSERVE.COM). Developers who are not developing software primarily for use in conjunction with CompuServe should contact Unisys directly at: Welch Patent Desk, Unisys Corp., P.O. Box 500, Bluebell, PA 19424 Mailcode C SW 19. Sincerly, Tim Oren, CompuServe Vice President, Future Technology ------------------------------ From: jdearing@netaxs.com (John Dearing) Subject: Re: Where Does ISDN Fit In? Date: 5 Jan 1995 17:22:12 GMT Organization: Netaxs Internet BBS and Shell Accounts Daniel Ritsma (ritsma@yu1.yu.edu) wrote: > When talking about telecommunications in computer-networking, people > often talk about t-1,2,3 or other type of line that specifically > define the bandwith of the connection. These terms apply to dedicated leased line circuits. They can be either point-to-point or can provide you a circuit into a larger network (like a frame relay network). And you're right, a T-1 is classically defined as a 1.544MB/S digital circuit. > What about ISDN, how do you fit that in these terms? What is the > standard bandwith of ISDN, and how is it when you only use it for > computer-data transfer when we speak about t-1s. Is it like an 15kHz > analoge line, that is used for Radio Signal transfer. ISDN is a different animal. ISDN is switched. There is a telephone number associated with an ISDN line. Garden variety ISDN provides you with 2 64K Bearer channels and a 16K Data channel. This is what is commonly referred to as 2B+D. By using a technique called "bonding" your terminal equipment and take the 2 "B" channels and "bond" them together, giving you 128K of bandwidth. Actually, the bandwidth is a little less than that because of the overhead associated with the bonding process. But it's still a lot more bandwidth than an analog modem! Since ISDN is a switched offering, there are charges in addition to the regular monthly bill for the line. You pay for each call made (usually at business rates, unless your state has a residential ISDN offering). > In short when do I use ISDN, over other alternatives? A quick answer is when you need more bandwidth than an analog modem can provide. Another time is when you have data to transfer but only for short periods of time. ISDN is a good, medium speed, bandwidth-on-demand solution. An example is the remote office that needs a connection to the corporate LAN but doesn't need to keep the connection "nailed up" all day long. They can use ISDN to place a connection to the corp LAN on an as needed basis, dropping the connection when there is no coprorate bound traffic. Just my $.02, John Dearing jdearing@netaxs.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 16:10:50 GMT From: Clive D.W. Feather > All of a sudden, I can now dial 1-800 numbers from the UK. There is a > few seconds of silence, and then an American female voice tells me > that this call will *not* be free, but charged at standard direct-dial > rates. If I don't want to pay, I should hang up now. Is anyone reading this in a position, if I called them, to find out whether they paid for the call as well? Clive D.W. Feather | Santa Cruz Operation clive@sco.com | Croxley Centre Phone: +44 1923 813541 | Hatters Lane, Watford Fax: +44 1923 813811 | WD1 8YN, United Kingdom [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would suspect there will be two charges. You will be charged to wherever the gateway is in the USA for the carrier in particular, and the end user will pay his usual 15-25 cents per minute for the remainder of the call. Isn't that how it always worked when you reached an 800 number from the UK in the past using USA Direct and similar services? PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #11 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa04798; 5 Jan 95 23:56 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19603; Thu, 5 Jan 95 19:35:05 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19595; Thu, 5 Jan 95 19:35:02 CST Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 19:35:02 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501060135.AA19595@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #12 TELECOM Digest Thu, 5 Jan 95 19:35:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 12 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Annoucement of Citizen Service Forum (Pete Goss) GLU System Now Available (R. Jagannathan) Help Wanted; PBX Admin, Texas (Thomas Hughes) Cellular NAM and ESN (Greg Segallis) Need ANSI X3.28 Code - x328.rq (Tom R. Valdez) Need an EBCDIC Spec - ebcdic.rq (Tom R. Valdez) More CO Codes For Each NPA - Any Telcos to Take Advantage? (Dave Leibold) Information Wanted on Northern Telecom Phone (Keith Knipschild) SNA Over Token Ring (Timothy S. Chaffee) AP Reporter in Berlin Needs Help With Report (Frank Bajak) Interim Results of FCC Auctions (Brian Miner) 101xxxx: Not Yet (Paul Robinson) Info Wanted: Competitors For Intra-state Leased Lines? (Lance Ware) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pgoss@citserv.org (Pete Goss) Subject: Annoucement of Citizen Service Forum Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:28:27 GMT Organization: Project Colorado Project Colorado, "Demonstrating One-Stop Service to the Citzen" Service to the Citizen '95 A forum on implementing Service to the Citizen through information technology. Where: Convention Center, Denver, CO When: February 22-23, 1995 Background: The National Performance Review had several recommendations aimed at developing a government that works better and costs less. This forum is designed to reenergize the nation to accomplish some of those recommendations. Project Colorado is a collaborative effort of government, industry and academic communities with a mission of developing and demonstrating the effectiveness of one-stop delivery mechanisms from which the citizen can obtain government information and services across all Local, State, Tribal and Federal agencies. The single interface envisioned is in strong contrast to an arcade of kiosks that would be the result of each agency developing its own delivery system. Target Audience: The forum is designed for leaders at all levels of government who want to facilitate the development of governments that more effectively serve the citizen-customer. It is oriented toward: o those with a lead role in developing new ways to deliver government information and services; o those concerned with improving the effectiveness of their department or agency; o those who can impact policy and the way government business is conducted; or o those who are responsible for getting things done. Specifically, the people who should attend include: o heads of departments or agencies at the Local, State, Tribal, or Federal level; o directors of principal operating components of the above; heads of regional divisions; o heads of planning organizations, systems organization, or information resource groups; or o those who report to or aspire to one of the above positions. Participants will: o build an understanding of why it is essential to replace conventional methods of service delivery; o discover available methods of service delivery appropriate to their citizen-customers, including service centers, desktop computers, intelligent telephony and satellite; o build an understanding of issues surrounding electronic delivery of information and service, including privacy, security, funds transfer, and personal identification; o see and hear how others are using information technology in their agencies; o identify solutions for problems that they have encountered while implementing electronic service; o interface with those who are making things happen; and o meet sources with experience and expertise who can help them implement electronic service delivery. Program: The forum will include two plenary sessions, two luncheon speeches, and 40-44 working group sessions on topics including applications, technology, economic benefits, telemedicine, privacy and security issues, system architecture, funding & implementation, reinventing government and the role of the US Postal Service. Plenary #1 Introductions: Representative Patricia Schroeder, D-CO (invited) Welcoming Address: Governor Roy Romer, Colorado (invited) Providing More Service at Less Cost through One-Stop Service Delivery Speaker: Greg Woods, National Performance Review Plenary #2 Motivating the Restructuring Effort: Operating in a Reduced Funding Environment Speaker: Honorable Kim Devooght (invited) Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Regulation, Ministry of Transportation, Ontario Luncheon #1 Changing Our Way of Providing Government Services Is Essential to the Continuing Viability of Our Government Speaker: Vice President Gore (invited) and Shirley Chater, Commissioner, Social Security Administration Luncheon #2 New Technologies Bring a New Era to State Governance Speaker: Governor Leavitt, State of Utah Applications: Topic Coordinator: Bob Woods, Associate Administrator for FTS 2000, General Services Administration Community-focused Integration of Services - Project Colorado: Rick Schremp, Social Security Administration Restructuring Delivery of Human Services: Carolyn Marzke, National Center for Service Integration Improving Access to Government Information: Frank Lalley, Veterans Affairs Tailoring Applications to Meet Customer Needs: Session Leader TBD Looking Forward - A Plan for the Future: Bob Woods --------- Technology. Topic Coordinator: Jack Warner, AT&T Citizen/Network Interface - The Multimedia Kiosk: Mike Rich, AT&T Global Information Solutions Citizen Personal Portable Record Keeping Devices - The Role of "SmartCards": Jack Radzikowski, Federal Electronic Benefit Transfer Task Force (invited) Citizen Information Networking Technology - The Access, Switching, Server and Wide Area Networking Technology: Ed Fontenot, US West Technologies Citizen Information Network Trial Status: Johnny Brown, Interactive Communications TeleVideo Citizen Information Network - Looking Forward: Jack Warner ----- Economic Benefits. Topic Coordinator: Jerry Mechling, Ph.D., Harvard University What and Where are the Real Savings?: Session Leader TBD Mechanisms to Measure Economic Benefits: Session Leader TBD Evaluating the Return on the Public Investment - Electronic vs. Alternative Means: Session Leader TBD Dollars and Sense in Public Access - A National Network Approach: Michael North, North Communications Looking Forward - A Plan for the Future: Jerry Mechling ----- Telemedicine. Topic Coordinator: Margaret Cary, MD, MBA, MPH, Regional Director, Region VIII, Health and Human Services Empowering the Rural Citizen - Defining the Need: Mary Gardner Jones, Alliance for Public Technology Technology - Creating the Connection: Peggy Poggio, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory TeleHealth Opportunities - The Perspective of the Service Provider: Jane Preston, MD, American Telemedicine Association Lessons Learned: Ben Sherman, Western American Indian Chamber Looking Forward - A Plan for the Future: Dr. Cary ----- Privacy/Security. Topic Coordinator: Steven Lasky, Security Technology & Design Advantages and Potential Pitfalls of Electronic Benefit Transfer Using SmartCard Technology: Session Leader TBD International Implications of Privacy Regulations: Session Leader TBD Perceptions Regarding Quality of Service and Exercise of Control: Session Leader TBD Ensuring Adequate Safeguards of Personal Data: Session Leader TBD Looking Forward - A Plan for the Future: Steve Lasky ----- System Architecture. Topic Coordinator: Timothy Thomas, Ph.D., Los Alamos National Laboratories Architecting the NII to Facilitate Commerce: Depak Gupta, Nations Bank The Concept of "Services" in the Architecture of the NII: Charles N. Brownstein, Corporation for National Research Initiatives From the Internet to the NII: Lessons Learned: Doug Tygar, Carnegie-Mellon University Interoperability and Distributed Functionality on the NII: Timothy Thomas Looking Forward - A Plan for the Future: Tim Thomas ----- Funding, Implementation and Evaluation. Topic Coordinator: Russ Bohart, California Health and Welfare Agency Data Center Models Across the Country: Sandi Ludwig, IBM Cooperative Ventures Between Industry and Government: Larry Silvey, Info-Texas Enterprising the Citizen Service Center / Potential Revenue Streams: Russ Bohart Getting Started -- Basic Considerations: Hal Ferber, California Health & Welfare Agency Data Center Looking Forward - A Plan for the Future: Russ Bohart ----- Reinventing Government. Topic Coordinator: Jim Flyzik, Department of Treasury Improving Service Through Partnering: Fred McDonald, Government of Canada Roles and Relationships in the Reengineering Process: Renato DiPentima, Social Security Administration Reinventing Government--A State Perspective: Bradley Dugger, Past President, National Association of State Information Resource Executives (Invited) The Intergovernmental Enterprise: Bob Greeves, National Academy of Public Administration Looking Forward - A Plan for the Future: Jim Flyzik ----- Role of the Postal Service in Electronic Government and Electronic Commerce. Topic Coordinator: Robert A. F. Reisner, Vice President, Technology Applications, US Postal Service Transacting Business Online - Electronic Commerce Services: Dick Rothwell, US Postal Service Communicating Electronically - Hybrid Message Products: Wade Henley, US Postal Service The Kiosk Network Solution: Susan Smoter, US Postal Service Privacy Policy for the USPS on the NII: Chuck Chamberlain, US Postal Service Looking Forward - A Plan for the Future: Robert A. F. Reisner ----- List of Sponsors: US Postal Service National Performance Review Social Security Administration University of Colorado at Denver Western Governors Association State of California - INFO/CALIFORNIA International City/County Managers Association United States Department of Agriculture United States Department of Health & Human Services, Region VIII National Congress of American Indians Western American Indian Chamber Federation of Government Information Processing Councils Council of Governors Policy Advisors National Rural Health Association Western Consortium for Public Health Consumer Interest Research Group / Alliance for Public Technology State Technologies Industry Advisory Council - Denver Chapter International Teleconferencing Association Project Colorado Team Members: Social Security Administration, Denver Region University of Colorado at Denver College of Engineering State of Colorado City of Broomfield, Colorado Colorado SuperNet Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories Los Alamos National Laboratory Price: $295 through 2/1/95, $395 thereafter. Attendance limited to 1000 people. To register, contact Government Technology at (916)363-5000. Hotel accommodations are available at government rates through the Radisson Hotel, (303) 893-3333. Please indicate that you are attending the Service to the Citizen forum sponsored by Project Colorado to obtain the rates. For more information, contact Bob Rantschler, Summit Coordinator, (303) 844-2017 or rdr@cse.cudenver.edu or Pete Goss at pgoss@citserv.org. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 12:56:02 PST From: R. Jagannathan Reply-To: jagan@csl.sri.com Subject: GLU System Now Available Just to reiterate that the GLU system for parallel programming using workstation networks can now be obtained from SRI. Please see http://www.csl.sri.com/glu/html/software using Mosaic for details. If you have any questions, please contact me. Thanks, Jaggan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:29:05 -0500 From: THOMAS.HUGHES@sprint.sprint.com Subject: Help Wanted; PBX Admin, Texas HELP WANTED. Position available: Telephone System Administrator-Houston, Tx. Manage two PBX's, 145 Key systems. Northern Telecom SL-1 experiance required. Reply to Tom Hughes 713-967-8300. Fax 713-967-8330. ------------------------------ From: gsegalli@ic1d.harris.com (Greg Segallis) Subject: Cellular NAM and ESN Organization: Harris, GCSD Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:10:44 GMT Can two cellular phones be programmed to the same NAM, while their ESN's are different, so that either phone can be used on one number? Assume only one phone can be on at a time (e.g. I have a car phone I use while on the road and a portable I use when I'm away from my car). Does the cellular carrier use the NAM to connect calls or the ESN, or both? If the ESN must be the same, can I alter the one to match the other? This would not be done to steal anyone else's service, just to allow me the convenience of using both my phones as the situation requires/allows. What are the legal issues in doing this? Email is prefered, as my news server purges more often than I get to Usenet.) Thanks, Greg [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If both phones have the same ESN (because you altered one to match the other) then yes, what you are asking can be done, however it is a very big no-no among cellular carriers, to say nothing of technical difficulties you (or the carrier) may encounter if both phones happen to be accidentally turned on at the same time. If the phones each have their own ESN then no it is not possible unless you can convince the carrier to waive ESN-checking when handling your calls, and that is not a very good idea either unless you want to risk having to pay for everyone else who decides to program their phone with your phone number (that part is easy!). Please review some articles here last year on this topic. Long ago, the cell carriers used to give places like Radio Shack (some carriers still do) 'demo phone lines' for the purpose of selling phones. Any phone in the store would work, regardless of ESN when programmed to that phone number; how else could the store have a dozen different models on display and allow users to 'test drive' them with actual calls other than having as many phone lines as he did ESNs, which would be difficult and impractical. The trouble is, phreaks found out the phone numbers used for demos; that is, the phone numbers on which the carrier did not bother doing ESN verifications. Pretty soon everyone was using those numbers for outgoing calls. Ditto with the administrative phones in the cell carrier's customer service and tech departments. They were not bothering to ESN-verify those either when they were used for calls ... now of course they do ... ... after Cell One Chicago and a couple others got eaten alive by phreaks. The best answer to give you is no, it cannot be done. Forget it. PAT] ------------------------------ From: tomv@earthlink.net (Tom R. Valdez) Subject: Need ANSI X3.28 Code - x328.rq [1/1] Date: 5 Jan 1995 05:41:26 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. I'm working on a project which requires implementation of the ANSI X3.28-1976 communications protocol on a PC clone. Does anyone know where I can find: 1) a copy of the ANSI X3.28-1976 spec, 2) source code which implements this protocol and/or 1) a library which performs this protocol. Thanks very much! tomv@earthlink.net ------------------------------ From: tomv@earthlink.net (Tom R. Valdez) Subject: Need an EBCDIC Spec - ebcdic.rq [1/1] Date: 5 Jan 1995 05:42:19 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. I'm working on a project which requires conversion of EBCDIC to ASCII and visa-versa. Does anyone know where I can find: 1) a spec for the EBCDIC character set, 2) source code which performs such translations and/or 3) a library which performs these translations. Thanks very much! tomv@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 00:30 EST From: dleibold@gvc.com (Dave Leibold) Subject: More CO Codes For Each NPA - Any Telcos Take Advantage? With the introduction of "interchangeable" area code formats officially beginning in a few days, the required dialing changes throughout the North American Numbering Plan mean that all area codes should be able to assign N(0/1)X format prefixes for their local numbers. I saw some recent references to some N(0/1)X format codes in a New Brunswick (NPA 506) list ... 313 for the Saint John, the provincial capital. 506 is not a huge population centre, but if 313 is indeed a forthcoming assignment, it seems telcos will be assigning with the N(0/1)X format because they now can. Elsewhere in Canada, 403 (Alberta) and especially 604 (British Columbia) were nearing capacity under the NNX format. Presumably these regions will be introducing N(0/1)X CO codes as soon as they can. Indeed, it's surprising these regions haven't announced an outright area code split by now. Are there other area codes where introduction of N(0/1)X format CO codes/prefixes is planned? ------------------------------ From: keith.knipschild@asb.com Organization: America's Suggestion Box - BBS (516) 471-8625 Date: Thu, 05 Jan 95 00:44:32 Subject: Information Wanted on Northern Telecom Phone Does anyone have info on a NORTHERN TELECOM Phone that is advertised in the HELLO DIRECT Catalog (Spring 95)-(Page 28) ??? This phone is has a Digital Answering Machine, VOICE Caller ID, Voice Mailboxs, Message Alert, Personal Greetings based on caller ID info, Person Directory, FAX / Modem Jack,Headset jack, Message TRANSFER. All for only $299.00. I don't know the model number as of yet. Any information would be a great help. Thanks, Keith.knipschild@asb.com ------------------------------ From: tchaffee@crl.com (Timothy S. Chaffee) Subject: SNA Over Token Ring Date: 5 Jan 1995 10:10:49 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] I am looking into moving our print traffic from a SDLC/SNA connection to run over our Token Ring network. Can this be done? Any pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance, Tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:21:54 EST From: Frank Bajak Subject: AP Reporter in Berlin Needs Help With Report Greetings, I am working on a story on Deutsche Telekom's bold (ha) leap into privatization and will attempt to explain how a company considered Europe's most consumer-unfriendly but at the same time among its most technically sophisticated is trying to globalize in anticipation of lost domestic revenues when competition sets in at home. I'd be interested in talking to anyone with expertise on the subject. I am also trying to locate John Williamson of {Global Telephony} magazine, who wrote a piece in the {International Herald Tribune} a few weeks back I found quite good. You know him? Thanks, Frank Bajak fbajak@ap.org Correspondent or Frank_Bajak@mcimail.com Associated Press tel: (49-30)-845-090-26 (ISDN) 10559 Berlin fax: 399-4341 Germany office switchboard: 399-925-0 ------------------------------ From: bminer@wireless.ultranet.com (Brian Miner) Subject: Interim Results of FCC Auctions Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 15:47:47 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Has anyone seen results from the FCC auctions of the PCS licenses on the net ? Before today, I assumed the details from the auctions was not made public. In today's {Wall Street Journal}, some information from round 21 was presented. Thanks in advance. Brian Miner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 03:32:11 EST Subject: 101xxxx: Not Yet Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA From: Paul Robinson In attempting to do a carrier check from a 301-587 number in Montgomery County, Maryland, I got a time out and a recording of inability to complete the call, when attempting to dial 1010288 1 700 555 1212 The call timed out as if I was trying to call 10102 881 7005 E.g. making a local call using carrier 10102 instead. So it's not set up yet. Followup Note: Dialing 10288 1 360 555 1212 Still times out ^ at this digit 1, meaning they are not yet ready for the new area codes here yet. Patrick Towson's comments about dialing via 1-800-CALL-ATT were correct; AT&T will put a call through with a calling card, but Bell Atlantic still does not recognize the new area codes, and probably won't until required to, which, isn't it the 15th of January? -------------- (Note to Pat: the following is probably more appropriate to Chicago than to Silver Spring, and yes, the computer picked it, I didn't:) The following Automatic Fortune Cookie was selected only for this message: Now I lay me down to sleep I pray the double lock will keep; May no brick through the window break, And, no one rob me till I awake. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Poor Chicago. The politicians here are starting to get frantic now that the Republicans have taken over so much control. They see the handwriting on the wall; what's left of the city -- not much -- need not expect any financial help. Which in a way is okay with me; pouring money into Chicago is like trying to fill up a Florida sinkhole with buckets of sand: the money just keeps pouring in and pouring in with months or years later nothing to show for it. I guess you saw the latest reports: number of homicides in 1994 was the third highest in history (exceeded only by 1993 and 1974) with 900 plus murders. All kinds of violent crimes by children against other children and now Wednesday this latest slap in the face from the school board: A nine year old girl is raped *in her classroom at school with the teacher in the same room*. Teacher is reading a book he brought to school; the kids are supposed to be studying their school work. Teacher does not see the attack or hear it. So the girl gets raped, okay? Bad enough? Not really. The parents sue the Board of Education saying the teacher was inattentive and might have prevented it had he been properly supervising the class. The Board of Education responds saying (get this now!) *it is the fault of the little girl that she got raped, since she did not speak out or scream or cry during the attack. She did not say, "I am being raped, help me". * Some slimey lawyer for the school board told them to say that. Since when is a nine year old child responsible for a sexual assualt made on them under any circumstances? Well, that's Chicago, as usual. I am so glad my family and myself managed to find a way out. I really hope the Republicans cut off *every nickle from every source for every single program* where Chicago is concerned. PAT] ------------------------------ From: lware@voxel.com (Lance Ware) Subject: Information Wanted: Competitors For Intra-state Leased Lines? Organization: VOXEL Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:33:40 GMT Can anyone tell me if there is competetion for inter-state (relatively short haul) leased lines. I am interested in a 56K or 128K circuit from Laguna Hills, CA to Los Angeles (LAX) area. PacBell's rate is pretty high. Who can I call? Please respnd via email. Lance Ware IS Manager & VOXEL Guru VOXEL ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #12 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa16753; 6 Jan 95 6:17 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA27891; Fri, 6 Jan 95 01:40:12 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA27883; Fri, 6 Jan 95 01:40:07 CST Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 01:40:07 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501060740.AA27883@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #13 TELECOM Digest Fri, 6 Jan 95 01:40:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 13 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Cellphone Now Giving ANI? (Jeffrey Rhodes) Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T (Scott A. Montague) Re: More CO Codes For Each NPA - Any Telcos Take Advantage? (Ry Jones) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Benjamin P. Carter) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Scott Darling) Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK (Dik Winter) ANI on an Airphone and More (Ry Jones) Invalid AT&T Prepaid Cards (Jan Mandel) New Area Codes and PBX (Jan Mandel) Value-Added Services in the States and Elsewhere (Lo Kwan Poon Ken) Communications FTP Server in Australia (Iaen Cordell) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com (Jeffrey Rhodes) Subject: Re: Cellphone Now Giving ANI? Date: 6 Jan 1995 00:54:24 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Reply-To: jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com In article 8@eecs.nwu.edu, keith.knipschild@asb.com writes: > I guess NYNEX Mobile has made some progress, Today I dialed 1-800-MY-ANI-IS > from my Cellular phone ... and guess what ... it came back with my > cellular phone number. In the past it would come back with a WEIRD > number. > Is NYNEX Mobile the first company to pass along the ANI from cellular > phones? As I have commented previously, most cellular carriers route 800 calls to a LEC's End Office on Type 1 facilities such that the cellular ANI is lost. It is possible for an Equal Access cellular provider to use Type 2 facilities to a LEC's Access Tandem and deliver the cellular ANI. The carrier transmitted on Feature Group D signaling is 110. This tells the Access Tandem to collect the ANI and Digits Dialed (800+), so that the Access Tandem can dip to a database to find out the carrier assigned to the 800 number (10 digit 800 portability. The Access Tandem then routes the call to that carrier passing the real ANI. Not all LECs permit this. Cellular carriers have little control, unless of course the LEC and the cellular carrier are the same, eg. Nynex. When Equal Access is implemented in Cellular One markets to meet the Consent Decree requirements for the McCaw-AT&T merger, the McCaw recommendation will be to use the Type 2 facilities for 800 traffic when permitted by the LEC. ------------------------------ From: 4sam3@qlink.queensu.ca (Montague Scott A) Subject: Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:54:26 GMT Organization: Queen's University, Kingston > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "Slamming" has always been defined in this > context as the unauthorized switching of long distance carriers on a phone > line. If for example you are a customer of AT&T and one day you discover > that your default (one plus or zero plus) carrier has been changed to > Sprint -- just an example -- without your permission or knowledge, then > we say that (in this example) Sprint 'slammed' your line. PAT] Here in Ontario, we use a much softer word (who would have guessed, eh?). Now that we have a similar system of Long Distance Carrier selection, Bell Canada (our original telecommunications monopoly) is running commercials telling why customers are "switching back to Bell". One of the reasons was "I was bounced to another carrier"... which, I guess, is what we now call it here. Compare: 1) Unitel 'slammed' me. 2) Unitel 'bounced' me. Number 2 does sound better to me ... "Slammed" is a little to violent. Of note: When we adopted LD carrier selection, Bell Canada was required to tell all people who subscribe to their service that they can now switch to another LD carrier ... in essence, advertising for them. Bell Canada can not charge people for switching their Equal Access Carrier. Bell also must do the billing for "Casual Calling", at no charge to the carrier or customer. A Bell representive must also tell a person calling their Business Office that they can pick any LD Carrier they want. Bell also had to pay most of the costs related to making their system accept other carriers. Sounds like fair regulations to me ... have Bell shoulder all the costs for my business to set up. Thanks Keith Spicer (CRTC Chair); let's see if we can singlehandedly destroy one of the leaders in R&D in the world in Communications (let alone Canada). Watch the R&D budgets go down. Why would we want a company that subsidizes the local rates with their LD rates? Let's drive Bell into Metered Local Calling (NEVER!). There's no reason why we'd want a LD Carrier that has a better than 99% customer satisfaction rate, year after year. Thank goodness that alot of Canadians are sensible, and staying with Bell. Scott Personal reply? Send E-Mail to 4sam3@qlink.queensu.ca for a PGP public key. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, a lot of what you are complaining about above are the very topics many of us complained about several years ago here in the United States ... look how far our complaints got us. There is both good and bad in the current arrangement here, although many of us could not see the good parts a decade ago. PAT] ------------------------------ From: rjones@rjones.oz.net (Ry Jones) Subject: Re: More CO Codes For Each NPA - Any Telcos Take Advantage? Date: 6 Jan 1995 03:03:40 GMT Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/ Dave Leibold (dleibold@gvc.com) wrote: > Are there other area codes where introduction of N(0/1)X format CO > codes/prefixes is planned? 206-803 is valid. See my previous post on 360-NXX's that contains many N[01]X exchanges. I think this is very, very widespread. Please reply to user%rjones@oz.net or directly to rjones@oz.net. Other mutations may bounce, such as user@rjones.oz.net. ------------------------------ From: bpc@netcom.com (Benjamin P. Carter) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 03:27:40 GMT Paul_Gloger.ES_XFC@xerox.com writes: > Cordless telephones use radio waves to communicate between the handset > and the base. Those radio waves can easily be intercepted by a police > scanner. > Ball said there was nothing illegal in McGee's listening to the cordless > phone conversations because it was a random scanning. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's the first time I have ever heard > of cordless phone monitoring being dismissed as 'nothing illegal' because > it was 'random scanning'. You'd think they would rely on previous court > decisions stating that cordless phones do not have the same protection > as cellular phones ... or something ... but isn't all scanner listening > essentially 'random'? PAT] It's random within the categories (police, fire, airport, etc.) corresponding to allocated frequency bands. At least it's random when you first turn the scanner on. After a while, though, you will have learned which specific frequencies are of interest, and you can set the scanner to ignore all other frequencies. I believe it's illegal for a store to sell a scanner capable of picking up cellular phone conversations. Cordless phones however can listen in on each other if they are nearby; and any law to prevent scanners from picking up those frequencies would not really insure privacy of cordless phone conversations. Ben Carter internet address: bpc@netcom.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Not only is it illegal for a store to sell such units, it is often times against corporate policy to even discuss the possibility of modification. Take Radio Shack as one example: it used to be when you bought any kind of radio from them, whether it was a CB, or a scanner, the clerks took much delight in handing you a customer-prepared ('a customer brought it in and left it here', or so they claimed) 'mod sheet' telling how to do the various mods to their equipment. In the era of CB, the mods would be to get the radio up to ten meters (what traces to cut on the board and what chips had to have pins held high; and what cores to adjust to get the radio to oscillate [or 'key-up'] when you got it that far off the original center frequency); with the old crystal-controlled scanners the mods handed out by RS clerks would discuss ways of swapping out the master crystal with another one to get 'secret frequencies'; with one of their very early digital scanners there was a programming error in the ROM which allowed the user to punch in the decimal point a couple extra times and get the scanner to receive stuff in the 350-400 megs area -- now commonplace in scanners but back then 'secret government radio stations' -- oh, the RS clerks knew them all. Then about ten years ago as 800 meg scanners were becoming more common, those mysterious mod sheets ("I dunno who left it here in the store, but we made some copies for customers ..") discussed how to change RS scanners to pick up cellular phones by clipping a diode here and there. But then the feds came to Fort Worth one day with a blunt message for all concerned: "Can the shit!" said the FCC. You betcha! Within a few days a memo was hanging on the back wall in the office of every Radio Shack store which said there would be no further discussion of 'mods' with customers under any circumstances. Not only that, if the customer mentioned making mods, the clerk was to *decline the sale* rather than possibly be later found to be part of a conspiracy or a scheme. And they are serious about it. RS corporate policy now is any clerk who so much as discusses with a customer the possibility that an item sold by RS might concievably be used in an illegal way is subject to discharge. No bull or backtalk about freedom of speech and all that. They are *so* serious about this policy now that about six months ago, they pulled their two top-of-the-line scanners off the market for retrofitting when someone found out there was another programming error in the ROM that customers could 'abuse'. And where before all their CB radios were using the Motorola 02-A chip for channel (or frequency) selection (or sometimes a similar chip from Uniden), now all that stuff is in the ROM, or read-only memory. The feds got after Motorola on account of that 02-A chip also, and the FCC made them quit manufacturing it. Easily programmable with a snip snip here and a drop of solder there, all the guys were using them for pirate radios. Uniden also got a rap on the knuckles from Uncle when the company came out with its 'Digi-Scan' unit. PAT] ------------------------------ From: dsd@aol.com (DSD) Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 5 Jan 1995 21:50:44 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: dsd@aol.com (DSD) Previously written..... >> What kind of noise/distortion does American-style bit-robbing >> cause to voice band signals transmitted through PCM channels? >> In the U.S., most intermachine trunks are common channel direct >> connections so only the robbed bit at each end of the IC/EC >> connection introduces the robbed bit (as well as ny non CCS systems in >> the EC). > Today, most end-to-end voice connections do not include any trunking > which uses robbed bit signalling. The great majority of local > trunking, especially in metro areas, has all been converted to CCS. > One way to determine the probability of what type of local trunking > is in your area is if caller ID is available. If you can have caller > ID, then the local trunking is using CCS and thus no robbed bit signaling > is involved at that end of any connection. > Bellcore NISDN Hotline Technical Consultant (1-800-992-ISDN) > Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.) > Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70 > 201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com Whoa there big guy!! First define CCS, I think I know what it is but humor me! Second, CLASS Features use SS7 which is NOT any part of trunking. And if you insist they are then why can't an ATT 2B processor do class features!? TRUNKING is still running MOSTLY on AMI/D4 56k channels T-1 carrier, even if it runs under DS3 over fiber. I agree more and more B8ZS ESF banks are going in. But, to blantantly say that every or most trunks are CCS is not something you want to bet money on. ALSO, in my local WE don't provide Caller-ID on Foreign Exchange circuits over T-1 carrier because of the 2FXS card incompatibilty with it. Be they WECO, Pulsecom, or any other card. WECO 2FS-GT cards eat the analog packet big time. I haven't tried any other brands of the same card. Scott Darling US WEST Specials ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 03:25:09 +0100 From: Dik.Winter@cwi.nl Subject: Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK > All of a sudden, I can now dial 1-800 numbers from the UK. There is a > few seconds of silence, and then an American female voice tells me > that this call will *not* be free, but charged at standard direct-dial > rates. If I don't want to pay, I should hang up now. I tried from the Netherlands, here I get (for 1-800-MY-ANI-IS) a recording "het door u gekozen nummer is niet in gebruik" ("the number you dialed is not in use"); however the message came only after dialing 1-800-MY-A. dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj amsterdam, nederland, +31205924098 home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; e-mail: dik@cwi.nl ------------------------------ From: rjones@rjones.oz.net (Ry Jones) Subject: ANI on an Airphone and More Date: 6 Jan 1995 04:13:55 GMT Organization: The SenseMedia Network, http://sensemedia.net/ I called 1-800-My-ANI-Is from an Airtouch cell phone on a Boeing 767-300 over DFW. It returned a 313 number. I then called that number from the next seat (also an Airtouch GTE phone) and, shocker, nothing. To arrange for inbound calls (an option on the phone) seems to be more complex than just getting the ANI for the phone. I asked a ClairCom ex-employee how they did it, he said it was pretty involved. Sigh. Also, USWest is running a promo in 206 / (360 ?) where one phone call in the same NPA is $1, flat rate. This is only valid from USWest payphones in 206 when calling another 206 number. Please reply to user%rjones@oz.net or directly to rjones@oz.net. Other mutations may bounce, such as user@rjones.oz.net. ------------------------------ From: jmandel@carbon.cudenver.edu (Jan Mandel) Subject: Invalid AT&T Prepaid Cards Date: 5 Jan 1995 22:26:55 -0700 Organization: University of Colorado at Denver On a recent Delta flight to Europe my wife and I got free $5 AT&T USA Direct cards, a marketing effort to have us start using the service. But none of the cards worked! AT&T operator said that the numbers on the cards were invalid. So I used my own AT&T calling card number for the call. You get what you pay for. Not a good advertisement for AT&T. To be fair, I used the service from Europe for years and it works well except that it is sometimes difficult to reach the access number. Jan Mandel, Center for Computational Math, University of Colorado at Denver jmandel@colorado.edu ------------------------------ From: jmandel@carbon.cudenver.edu (Jan Mandel) Subject: New Area Codes and PBX Date: 5 Jan 1995 22:44:45 -0700 Organization: University of Colorado at Denver We have recently got a memo that because of new area codes we may not be able to reach numbers with some new codes from the office, and that the school phone people will reprogram the PBX quickly to add a new area code when someone requests it. This appears to be a rather silly way to cope with the situation. Why cannot they get new area codes from whoever creates the codes and add them as they come into being? Is there one single place somewhere that assigns the area codes? Jan Mandel, Center for Computational Math, University of Colorado at Denver jmandel@colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: 06 Jan 1995 08:36:44 +0800 From: eelkp@uxmail.ust.hk (Lo Kwan Poon Ken) Subject: Value-Added Services in the States and Elsewhere Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Hi everyone, I am looking urgently for information on value-added service on cellular, such as voice-mail and call forwarding, etc. In particular, I am after information on: 1. How much are the value-added services? 2. What is the percentage of cellular subscribers who subscribe to VAS? I am interested in figures from all over the world, although I realize that most data will be of the US. Please help! ------------------------------ From: iaenc@sydney.DIALix.oz.au (Iaen Cordell) Subject: Communications FTP Server in Australia Date: 6 Jan 1995 07:13:11 +1100 Organization: DIALix Services, Sydney, Australia. The following is an index file for the communications futures project group, this group has an ftp server at ftp.happy.doc.gov.au. This group has placed many reports on the future of communications in Australia. This directory includes material produced by the Australian Communications Futures Project (CFP). The CFP is a research team within the Commonwealth Bureau of Transport and Communications Economics. Stored on this site are full ASCII text versions of recent CFP papers, as well as binary files of the papers in their original Microsoft Word for Windows format, and files in Postscript, Rich Text Format (RTF) and Replica format. All material (C) Commonwealth of Australia 1994. File directory: overview of the papers available here * COMMUNICATIONS FUTURES PROJECT OVERVIEW PAPER * EMERGING COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES - AN ANALYTICAL FRAMEWORK (CFP Module 1 Paper 1) * DELIVERY TECHNOLOGIES IN THE NEW COMMUNICATIONS WORLD (CFP Module 5, Paper 2) * NEW FORMS AND NEW MEDIA: COMMERCIAL AND CULTURAL POLICY IMPLICATIONS (CFP Paper 3, Mod 2,3 & 14) * COSTING NEW RESIDENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS (CFP Work in Progress Paper 5, addressing CFP modules 6,7, 8, and 15) File directory: details of papers, organised by release sequence: COMMUNICATIONS FUTURES PROJECT OVERVIEW PAPER crfpapr2.txt - Ascii text - crfpapr2.doc - WinWord 2.0c - Description: Paper delivered at Communications Research Forum in 1993, announcing the CFP and describing its workplan. EMERGING COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES - AN ANALYTICAL FRAMEWORK (CFP Module 1 Paper 1) mod1pap1.txt - ASCII text - (NO GRAPHICS) mod1pap1.doc - WinWord v2.0c version mod1pap1.ps - Postscript format A big file: 2.3MB mod1p1ps.zip - Postscript format compressed with PKZIP 2.04g First work in progress paper of the CFP, designed to provide a framework for analysing developments in the communications industry structure and performance (in terms of service provision). The paper assesses emerging services in terms of the technological combinations and the distinctive market needs they are expected to meet. DELIVERY TECHNOLOGIES IN THE NEW COMMUNICATIONS WORLD (CFP Module 5, Paper 2) mod5pap2.doc - WinWord 2.0c - mod5pap2.txt - ASCII text mod5pap2.ps - Postscript - mod5p2ps.zip - ZIPped Postscript file Description: Even a casual reader of the communications (and increasingly the popular) press both in Australia and overseas would quickly become aware that one of the major themes of discussion relates to the delivery platform(s) for future communications services. Among the more common questions that are raised, often implicitly, are the following: * What sorts of delivery systems can be used to provide the range of new communications services that are often being mooted, and how do these delivery systems line up against each other? * How are the various technological solutions likely to fare in the market place over the next few years? * Is an optic fibre network the inevitable, all-embracing solution for satisfying all our communications needs in the future? (And, if so, should the Government be actively supporting this technology in preference to other solutions?) This paper provides some early insights into these and similar questions, and sets a foundation for future Communications Futures Project (CFP) work on the current and future development of communications markets and the policy implications arising from this development. NEW FORMS AND NEW MEDIA: COMMERCIAL AND CULTURAL POLICY IMPLICATIONS (CFP Paper 3, Mod 2,3 & 14) culture.doc - WinWord 2.0c version cultword.zip - WinWord 2.0c version compressed with PKZIP culture.txt - ASCII text version (no graphics) culture.rtf - Rich Text Format (RTF) cult_rtf.zip - Rich Text Format (RTF) compressed with PKZIP culture.ps - Postscript version cult_ps.zip - Postscript version compressed with PKZIP culture.exe - Farallon Replica version with self installing Windows Replica viewer culture.rpl - Farallon Replica format Description: This paper provides a survey of the more foreseeable technological developments that are likely to affect, to varying degrees, the various content industries in Australia over the next decade. While claims of an impending 'multimedia revolution' need to be treated with caution, the expansion of digital technologies into content creation appears to be entering a new phase which is changing product forms. When combined with computer networks, this is likely to have a substantial longer term effect on the way the content industries conduct their business. The content industries are not only an interesting and important sector in their own right, but they are also important to some other more general issues of interest to the CFP's wider work, including the following: * Content as factor of production: Content is likely to be among the most visible and important inputs in many of the mooted future information and communications services such as education, video on demand, games, advertising, home shopping. Hence, the ability of suppliers to provide quality content in volume at reasonable cost is likely to be among the critical success factors for the industry as a whole. * Content and cultural policy: A second area of wider interest is the important (two-way) relationship between the content of the electronic media and the pursuit of cultural policy objectives. The new technologies are likely to generate new access opportunities both for existing cultural products and forms, as well as opening up some quite new forms of expression and creativity. It is important to capitalise on these changes, not only economically, but culturally. * Content and industry policy: A related reason for the interest in the content industries is the growing perception that, in the longer term, content will probably be one of the areas of economic activity most likely to be profoundly affected by emerging developments in information and communications technologies. A focus on content and culture is increasingly being seen as strategically important for the wider economy. This paper aims to contribute to the discussion on emerging content industries by identifying some of the technological and market context in which they will be developing. The major content industries are taken to be the creative and many of the organisational elements (see below) of the print media (newspapers, magazines, books, pamphlets), the recorded music industry, the electronic media (the production industry for television and radio), film, games, software and on-line information services. Sitting behind all of these particular media is advertising which has a pervasive influence on products and revenues. Work in Progress Paper No. 5 COSTING NEW RESIDENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS costing2.doc - WinWord 2.0 version costing2.zip - WinWord 2.0 version compressed with PKZIP costing.txt - ASCII text version (no graphics) costing.rtf - Rich Text Format (RTF) cost_rtf.zip - Rich Text Format (RTF) compressed with PKZIP costing.ps - Postscript version cost_ps.zip - Postscript version compressed with PKZIP costing.exe - Farallon Replica version with self installing Windows Replica viewer costing.rpl - Farallon Replica format This paper reports on one aspect of work being undertaken by the Communications Futures Project on likely market and network developments for information services in Australia over the decade from 1995 to 2005 and beyond. It presents the results of an examination of the costs of providing residential information services using a range of delivery platforms. It was foreshadowed in CFP paper DELIVERY TECHNOLOGIES IN THE NEW COMMUNICATIONS WORLD that the CFP would undertake further analysis of the relative costs of providing these services on a range of delivery platforms. This paper reports preliminary results of this analysis. It presents broad estimates of the costs of rolling out various delivery platforms, although much of the discussion in this paper focuses on HFC networks. METHODOLOGY AND SCOPE The approach taken in this paper involves estimating the costs of the various components of each of the platforms. An estimated cost per household was derived for 1994 for each of the platforms identified in the earlier work. That is: wireless platforms: * direct broadcasting to the home by satellite (DBS) using digital signals, and * microwave multipoint distribution systems (MDS) cable-based systems: * optic fibre systems, particularly hybrid optic fibre - coaxial cable (HFC) systems, and * the asymmetrical digital subscriber line (ADSL) system using existing twisted pair telephone lines. Estimates were made of the likely movements in component costs over time and between different geographic areas. Using a spreadsheet based model cost estimates were then derived for all households in different geographic areas and in Australia in total for each year form 1995 to 2005. This approach is part of a structured modelling approach to costs to be revealed more fully in a subsequent paper. CFP FTP SITE TECHNICAL NOTES: * Postscript format documents were created by printing the original Word document to a Postscript printer setup to print to file under Windows 3.1. * Where files have been ZIP'ped, MSDOS PKZIP v2.04g has been used to compress the files. * Farallon Replica(R) is a cross-platform document viewer similar to Adobe Acrobat. It allows you to view documents complete with fonts, graphics etc as they were originally composed, even if you don't have the fonts or word processor the document was originally created in. * If you don't already have a copy of a Replica viewer, and if you have a MS Windows system, downloading and running under Windows the copy of the respective CFP paper with an .EXE extension will install Replica on your local PC and then open up the document for viewing under Windows. If you have any enquiries about the CFP or the documents available from this site (for example if you want hard copies, or you are having difficulty reading them), please contact: Steven Byrne Principal Research Officer Communications Futures Project Bureau of Transport and Communications Economics Commonwealth Department of Transport GPO BOX 501 Canberra ACT 2601 AUSTRALIA Internet email: Steven=Byrne%cfp%btce@smtpgate.dotc.gov.au Telephone: +61 6 274 7078 Current at 4 October 1994 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #13 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa24618; 6 Jan 95 22:11 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22640; Fri, 6 Jan 95 16:51:43 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22631; Fri, 6 Jan 95 16:51:39 CST Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 16:51:39 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501062251.AA22631@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #14 TELECOM Digest Fri, 6 Jan 95 16:51:30 CST Volume 15 : Issue 14 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax Date: 6 Jan 1995 14:22:27 GMT Organization: a2i network In cmwolf@cs.mtu.edu (Wolf) writes: > From: Tim Oren, CompuServe Incorporated [ An explanation from CompuServe ] The explanation provided sounds much less draconian then the official GIF Agreement itself. However, it's worth pointing out that this explanation is not part of the GIF Agreement, and has no legal value should somebody (Unisys or CompuServe) ever sue you for violating the Agreement. So, your actions should be based ONLY on what the official Agreement says. That is all that a court will consider. > CompuServe remains committed to keeping open the GIF 89a specification ... > ...continues to strongly support the use of the GIF specification in the > entire online community including the Internet and World Wide Web ... > CompuServe will not profit from this service. These statements may be true. But they are not part of the Agreement and not legally binding on you or CompuServe. It's very dangerous to let a nice friendly explanation make you feel better about a nasty contract. The friendly explanation does not make the contract itself any better! Rahul Dhesi ------------------------------ From: murray@ibm8.scri.fsu.edu (John Murray) Subject: Re: Protest of New Compuserve-Unisys GIF Usage Tax Date: 6 Jan 1995 20:25:02 GMT Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute Brad Hicks writes: > So OK, you're determined not to use a lossy algorithm. JPEG is not necessarily lossy. The loss is variable from 0% loss to 99% loss, and user-settable (if you're using a JPEG emitter that allows access to this feature, e.g. saving an image in JPEG fmt using xv) > Fine, there's also =another= bitmapped graphics standard. TIFF. So > I repeat, what do we need Yet Another bitmapped graphics standard for? There are advantages to the GIF format that some people will be reluctant to lose. Particularly, the fact that GIFs are faster than JPEGs to decode and smaller for certain kinds (few colors) of images, and the interlaced data arrangement, which gives you that nice fade-in (perceptually apparently faster) effect you get when you're using e.g. Netscape. The nice thing about the proposed GEF or whatever they're going to call it is that it retains the advantages of GIF unchanged, while getting UniSaurus' greedy claws off of it. Go for it, guys. For in-depth discussion, check out comp.graphics and comp.infosystems.www. {providers,users}. John R. Murray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 08:46:06 -0500 From: Steve Brack Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges {} in quoted text are mine. - SSB In article Paul_Gloger.ES_XFC@xerox.com wrote: > From the Associated Press, as reported in the {Los Angeles Times}, > Sunday, January 1, 1995: > Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges > Memphis, Tenn. - A woman listening to a police scanner she had gotten > for Christmas picked up a conversation over cordless telephones and > heard what turned out to be a murder plot unfolding, investigators > say. > Cordless telephones use radio waves to communicate between the handset > and the base. Those radio waves can easily be intercepted by a police > scanner. > Ball {a police official} said there was nothing illegal in McGee's listening > to the cordless phone conversations because it was a random scanning. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That's the first time I have ever heard > of cordless phone monitoring being dismissed as 'nothing illegal' because > it was 'random scanning'. You'd think they would rely on previous court > decisions stating that cordless phones do not have the same protection > as cellular phones ... or something ... but isn't all scanner listening > essentially 'random'? PAT] Courtesy of tls@gate.net (Terry Steinford) Public Law 103-414 signed Oct 25, 1994 (was H.R. 4922) SEC. 202. CORDLESS TELEPHONES. (a) Definitions. - Section 2510 of title 18, United States Code, is amended - (1) in paragraph (1), by striking `, but such term does not include` and all that follows through `base unit`; and (2) in paragraph (12), by striking subparagraph (A) and redesignating subparagraphs (B), (C), and (D) as subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C), respectively. (b) Penalty. - Section 2511 of title 18, United States Code, is amended - (1) in subsection (4)(b)(i) by inserting `a cordless telephone communication that is transmitted between the cordless telephone handset and the base unit,` after `cellular telephone communication,`; and (2) in subsection (4)(b)(ii) by inserting `a cordless telephone communication that is transmitted between the cordless telephone handset and the base unit,` after `cellular telephone communication,`. With a nip here and a tuck there, apparently the government has made listening in on cordless phones illegal. Steve Brack, Consultant sbrack@eng.utoledo.edu Toledo, OH 43613-1605 sbrack@cse.utoledo.edu MY OWN OPINIONS Tel: +1 419 534 7349 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, this is news to me. I guess we should all take note that listening to cordless phones is now just as illegal as listening to cellular. I had not been aware until now that the law had been changed to include cordless. Anyone else? PAT] ------------------------------ From: whs70@cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 6 Jan 1995 11:02:04 -0500 Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore) In article , Matthew P. Downs wrote: > jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com (Jeffrey Rhodes) writes: >> I'm not a modem expert but I would answer "none". If a call connection >> is made on a bit robbing DS0 within a DS1, then the modems will settle >> for some transparent speed (9600bps) during the initial negotiation. I >> don't think the V.34 modems will connect at 28k8 when bit robbing is >> present. >> There really aren't many circuits like these, especially for long >> distance calls. Most bit-robbing occurs on intra-LATA (I think) by >> LECs that haven't updated circuits that are being depreciated over a >> 40 year period. > Unless you use ISDN, you are using robbed-bit signalling between your > premise and the Central Office. Unless like a previous poster had > stated, the robbed bits only become important during call set-up and > tear-down. Ie. going on-hook and off-hook. Otherwise the robbed bits > will be 1's. If we are only talking about analog modems then the premise to Central Office is probably not a DS0 channel, but rather a two wire circuit ... and if the premise to the central office is an analog two wire circuit, then there is NO bit-robbing from the premise to the Central Office. Bit robbing is an inter-office trunk signaling methodology to indicate the off-hook, on-hook status of each end of the connection. The off-hook/ on hook signaling from the premises to the central office over a typical two wire analog phone line is indicated by the completeion of a circuit path when the premise equipment goes off hook (that is either a loop start or ground start arrangement). Note that on a regular two wire analog phone line (even if there's a modem on it) there is no on-hook/off-hook indication for the distant station other than the audible indication that the ringing to the distant end has ceased. At the completion of a call, the on-hook indication of a distant station is not sent all the way back to your premises ... the on-hook is sent as far as your local central office (again, for a two wire analog line) which ecognizes the remote disconnect (on-hook) and takes down the connection. It is, therefore, quite possible with today's trunking network to have an end-to-end analog phone call (both ends are two wire, conventional POTS lines) and the entire interoffice trunking for the call consisting of 64 clear trunking (i.e. no robbed-bit signaling trunking at all). As the network continues to evolve, that will be more and more the likely connection until, at some future time, all robbed-bit trunking is gone. Final comment, where you would possibly have ribbed bit signaling from the premise to the central office is if there is a PBX which is connected to the central office using a DS-1 trunk/tie line arrangement, but I don't think that was what the original poster was questioning. Bellcore NISDN Hotline Technical Consultant (1-800-992-ISDN) Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.) Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70 201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com ------------------------------ From: heath.chandler@norstan.com Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code Date: Fri, 06 Jan 95 10:45:25 cdt Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc > FYI The local cableco here in Fairfax County, VA (Media General Cable) > has a 10XXXX code (106-500), used for ordering Pay-Per-View movies. I > can't seem to get an answer from Bell Atlantic on how this was > arranged. Is this a common practice, I wonder. And yet there was a hole in the security in that system. I lived in Centreville and subscribed to Media General. By dialing 10650 + AREACODE + Number, I was able to make calls to say ... Waterford and Catoctin and never received a bill. I even tried a call to NY same thing. Give it a try ... Chandler ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:20:43 -0800 From: Brent E. Boyko Subject: Re: Need an EBCDIC Spec - ebcdic.rq [1/1] Organization: Loma Linda University In article is written: > I'm working on a project which requires conversion of EBCDIC to > ASCII and visa-versa. Does anyone know where I can find: > 1) a spec for the EBCDIC character set, > 2) source code which performs such translations and/or > 3) a library which performs these translations. The Unix utility "dd" can be used to convert USASCII to EBCDIC and vice versa. For example, the following command would read the ascii file "text.file" and write it in 80-column EBCDIC format to mag tape drive 0, using 8000 byte blocks: dd if=text.file of=/dev/rmt0 obs=8000 cbs=80 conv=ebcdic Source code is available as part of the GNU fileutils package. Get the file fileutils-3.12.tar.gz from the GNU ftp archive at prep.ai.mit.edu, gatekeeper.dec.com, or ftp.uu.net. Hope this helps. Brent E. Boyko Telecom Engineer Loma Linda University Medical Center bboyko@brent.llu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jan 95 09:25:45 CST From: L.W.Westermeyer Subject: Re: More CO Codes for Each NPA; Any Telcos Take Advantage? In response to Dave Leibold's note in volume 12 of the Digest, Southwestern Bell Telephone is opening up 314-516 on January 20, 1995. Voice: (314) 553-6010 SLWWEST@UMSLVMA.BITNET (Bitnet) Fax: (314) 553-6007 SLWWEST@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Internet) Mailing Address: University of Missouri - St. Louis 8001 Natural Bridge Road St. Louis, MO 63121 USA ------------------------------ From: dingle@ksvi.mff.cuni.cz (Adam Dingle) Subject: Re: Phone Card Reader Wanted Date: 6 Jan 1995 14:29:54 GMT Organization: Charles University Reply-To: kotas@milada.troja.mff.cuni.cz This topic is described in: ftp.funet.fi/pub/doc/telecom/phonecard/chips/How_chips_work I tried it. There are bugs but it works! Jan Kotas ------------------------------ From: jayk372@aol.com (JayK372) Subject: Re: Seeking White Pages on CD or Disk Date: 6 Jan 1995 08:50:29 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: jayk372@aol.com (JayK372) NYNEX offers a CD based product that I believe has nationwide listings. It is available through the NYNEX Information Resources Co., which pub- lishes NYNEX directories. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 09:42:59 EST From: Steve Samler Subject: Re: PCN Auction Info Total bids now over two billion; ALAACR is now at 253 for NYC; Chicago licenses now at 63 (PCS Primeco) and 65 ATT. ------------------------------ From: jconran@watson.policy.net (Jim Conran) Subject: New Alert - 911 Access Date: 6 Jan 1995 22:22:18 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 ACTION ALERT...ACTION ALERT The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (Notice)(Docket Number 94-102) on October 19, 1994 in the Matter of Revising the FCC Rules to ensure Compatibility with Enhanced 911 Systems. The rulemaking states as one of its primary objectives that all 911 enhanced services be broadly available to all consumers. We believe that this rulemaking will not guarantee 911 emergency access to cellular phone users. The proposed rulemaking requires wireless carriers to provide this service only to "service initialized" users or users that purchase their cellular phones from a wireless service provider. This proposed arcane requirement is quite contradictory to the FCC's ultimate objective of providing "broad accessibility" to 911 services. Cellular users will have the expectation that when they use their phone to contact 911 during an emergency, they will have immediate contact with the operator. Consumers will not think to question the reliability of their cellular phone or the wireless service providers, instead public confidence on the 911 emergency system will be jeopardize. The Alliance for Public Access to 911 (Alliance) believes that in order for the FCC's proposed rulemaking on the "broad availability of 911 and enhanced 911 services" to be fully recognized, the FCC must require all cellular switches to accept all 911 calls. In addition, the FCC should require all cellular phones to be equipped to access the strongest cellular base station signal when 911 is called. Finally, the FCC should make the 911 provision an issue as it currently reconsiders cellular license renewal applications. The issue of safety and security for all Americans is too important an issue to be compromised. The Alliance has submitted comments to the FCC which address the concerns of several of the country's leading consumer interest organizations. These organizations have collectively come together for the purpose of presenting their shares views of the Notice. The Alliance is a collective of non-profit, safety concerns whose members include Consumers First, the Center for Public Interest Law, Consumer Coalition of California, Consumer Action, the Alliance for Technology Access, Towards Utility Rate Normalization (TURN), and the Utility Consumer Action Network (UCAN). Internet users concerned with this issue can find more information including a copy of the rulemaking, comments prepared by the Alliance and a sample letter that can be forwarded to the Commissions at the FCC. This information is located at: http://watson.policy.net/cf/cf.html gopher://watson.policy.net:70/11/.cf email: jconran@911.policy.net Jim Conran Executive Director Consumers First jconran@911.policy.net P.O. Box 75237 Los Angeles, CA 90010 213/251-4620 510/253-1937 510/253-1359 (Fax) ------------------------------ From: gsegalli@ic1d.harris.com (Greg Segallis) Subject: Information Wanted on Novatel 825 Organization: Harris, GCSD Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:19:30 GMT I am looking for info on how to program the Novatel 825 handheld cellular phone. I am also looking for tech info on the jacks located on the bottom of the phone. If you can help please email me (or post here). Thanks, Greg ------------------------------ From: graphite@netcom.com (Bill Dankert) Subject: Need Information on EXCEL Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:58:20 GMT Has anyone heard of, or participated in, Excel Telecommunications, Inc.? It is a long distance service provider that uses network marketing instead of a sales force. Please post, or email me directly, any comments concerning Excel. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Bill graphite@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Reon_Can@mindlink.bc.ca (D. Matte) Subject: GSM in Canada? Date: Fri, 06 Jan 95 11:41:05 -0800 Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada I have been doing some initial research on the development of the PCS market in Canada. Recently some of the players that have received licenses to test 1.9GHz systems have been touting GSM as the way to go (Telezone & Microcell 1-2-1). If GSM is implemented would it mean that users would not be able to make use of their terminals in the U.S. as GSM is not likely to be adopted by the U.S. on a large scale? It would seem to me that having a system that is compatible with our largest trading partner would make for a more attractive service offering. Any thoughts or insight on this would be appreciated. Cheers, Dan Matte REON reon_can@mindlink.bc.ca ------------------------------ Date: 06 Jan 1995 19:31:48 UT From: Erik Naggum Organization: Naggum Software; +47 2295 0313 Subject: Request For Information on Local Rates I'm covering Norway's telecommunication privatization effort for a local newspaper, and need some information that I have not been able to collect from Telenor (the newly renamed Norwegian telephone company) or other PTT's directly. Please mail me answers -- I'll post the article here after it has been published. 1. Local, analog, single-pair leased lines, i.e., the basic local loop for ordinary telephone service, only now as a leased line to another subscriber in the same CO. I'm looking to compare the cost of acquisition and rent for one year. 2. Local, digital, 64 kbps leased lines, i.e., the base rate ISDN subscriber loop, only now as a leased line to another subscriber in the same CO. Similarly to (1), I'm looking to compare the cost of acquisition and rent for one year. 3. 24-hour local phone call, i.e., an ordinary phone call to a subscriber in the same CO as yourself -- one call that lasts 24 hours straight on a weekday. A 24-hour call is used to obtain comparable numbers across all kinds of reduced rates. 4. 24-hour local ISDN call, same as (3), but now with one 64 kbps B channel. If there are differences between business and residential rates, please let me have both, or specify which you include. Please let me know which service provider you use if there is a choice. The purpose of this comparison is to tablate the cost of calling a local point-of-presence for Internet providers, competing telephone companies, and other service providers that may have their own networks. This will be one data point in a comparison of countries as to how easily the regulated services allow access to private services over the regulated access lines. Your help will be highly appreciated. # ------------------------------ From: Subroto Mukerjea Organization: E & A Services, Univ. of Maryland Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 15:19:13 EDT Subject: International Call Back Co-Locating With Telco Dear Editor: Recently there has been much talk about International Call back companies co-locating their switches with national telecom companies. Sort of having a direct connect agreement with a country in Europe, preferably. Does anyone have any experience with this or can point me to a source that would deal with this. Thanks in advance, Subroto Mukerjea ------------------------------ From: jenzler@olympus.net (Jared Enzler) Subject: ISDN Over Wireless Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:17:32 UNDEFINED Organization: Internet for the Olympic Peninsula I live in an area where the telephone co. shows no interest in offering ISDN. But the area is well covered by cellular phone systems. Questions: There appear to be several varieties of digital cellular on the way. 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For specific product information, please contact: Router Solutions 5527 Preston Fall City Road Fall City, Wash. 98024 USA 800-837-4180 (USA and Canada) 206-644-6082 (elsewhere) 206-222-7622 (FAX) routers@halcyon.com (Email) Or check our FTP site: ftp.halcyon.com /pub/local/router_solutions ------------------------------ From: rumian@uci.agh.edu.pl Subject: MANs in USA Date: 6 Jan 1995 09:55:49 GMT Organization: AGH, Krakow, POLAND [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This message appeared a week or so ago here, but for whatever reason did not get very good circulation in the comp.dcom.telecom group. I'm repeating it in the hopes someone can provide some answers to this fellow. PAT] Hi netters ! I need some help in getting info about Metropolitan Area Networks in USA. The questions are: 1. What is the physical structure of MANs (fiber, coax)? 2. If fiber what is the protocol (fddi, atm)? 3. Who is the main investor (banks)? 4. Does banks use MAN for data transmission? 5. What services are provided, and which are most popular? I will appreciate any help. Roman Rumian rumian@uci.agh.edu.pl ------------------------------ From: rboudrie@ecii.org (Rob Boudrie) Subject: Re: Memorized Area Codes Date: 6 Jan 1995 16:51:51 -0500 Organization: Center for High Performance Computing of WPI > At one of the large theatres at the park, there is a fellow who does > an audience warm-up act for a show. As part of his act he has the > audience call out their favorite area codes and he tells them their > location. He is quite good and is virtually never stumped. I wonder how he answers "710" [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If he is smart, he answers by saying 'government special services' or 'special government services'; whichever is actually correct I don't know. I sure wish someone who does have more detailed knowledge of this one would write a nice article for the Digest explaining it all. The last time I even alluded to 710 here, some people in the Defense Department were shocked that their 'top secret' was not all that secret. Let's shock them even further! Details on 710, please. Now if he is really clever, he would answer by saying "710 is *not* an 'area code', any more than '500' or '800' or '900' are area codes. It, like 500, 800 and 900 is an 'access code'. It accesses certain features in the nationwide telephone network which are not geographically dependent on any certain state or city." Yes, we say 'area code 800' when talking about toll free numbers, but check it out sometime; to be precise about it, when we dial an eleven digit number, we dial 1 plus [area code *or* access code] plus the seven digit local number. I hope all of you have a great weekend. If you have not yet checked out the book reviews and other re-organized features in the Telecom Archives please do so. Also, please give some thought to the idea I proposed a couple days ago of having short biographies of readers on line in the Archives available for review *by others who have also submitted a biographical sketch of themselves*. The response thus far has been good but I'd like a wider sampling from readers. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #14 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa17659; 9 Jan 95 15:56 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA21407; Mon, 9 Jan 95 08:01:11 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA21396; Mon, 9 Jan 95 08:01:07 CST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 08:01:07 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501091401.AA21396@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #15 TELECOM Digest Mon, 9 Jan 95 08:01:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 15 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Gary Sanders) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Michael J Graven) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Bill Sohl) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Richard Solomon) Re: Cellular NAM and ESN (Alan Shen) Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T (Alan Boritz) Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T (Ari Wuolle) Re: 101xxxx: Not Yet (Wally Ritchie) Re: British Telecom Cuts Rates to Canada and U.S. (Wally Ritchie) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Wally Ritchie) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 18:18:23 GMT In article , Christopher Zguris <0004854540@ mcimail.com> wrote: > Cell phones are another matter, a listener with a scanner modified to > get that range will hear little "snippets" of conversations before the > phone changes frequencies or cells, that's definately "random". But as > for cordless phones, most/all will stay on the same frequency for the > entire call, much to the delight of the avid snooper with nothing > better to do. You have been listening to to many cell phone sales guys. First, many scanners don't need to be modified (although new ones may) to listen to cell phones. They come out of the box with cellular. As for snippets I would beg to differ, I know some one who is an active cell listner (-:)) and depending on your local cell configuration you will hear most of all phone calls that are placed. "my friend" listened to someone trying to explain how secure a cell phone is becuase its allways changing freq. Was interesting considering the entire call was 15 minutes long and never changed cells/freq. As for me, I dont have a scanner. I have an R7000 communications receiver -:) Gary W. Sanders (N8EMR) gary.w.sanders@att.com AT&T Bell Labs 614.860.5965 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't know where you shop, but all the Radio Shack units make a point of cutting out the cellular frequencies. So do quite a few others, and they have for a few years now. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 13:27:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges From: mjg@ulysses.homer.att.com (Michael J Graven) Reply-To: mjg@ulysses.homer.att.com (Michael J Graven) Pat wrote: > Cordless phone monitoring is merely the 1990's version of what nosy people > used to do many years ago. [...] I am reminded of my great-uncle, who lived on an out-of-the-way farm near Shepherdsville, Kentucky, in the early part of the century. According to his sister, my grandmother, their house was the first drop on the loop ("two shorts on six, please, operator.") Dwight appeared to be a bit ahead of his time: he inserted a knife switch into the loop after the home telephone so he could cut off the eavesdroppers while he was talking with his girlfriend. A man after your own heart, Pat. Michael J. Graven mjg@ulysses.homer.att.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Telco used or uses the same concept to afford absolute privacy from being overheard by extensions on the same line. They call it an 'exclusion key'. Remember the old two-line turn button phones and how the switchook plunger on the left side was made a little differently than the one on the right side? You would lift it to put the line you were *not* talking on on hold ... well some single line phones had that funny plunger on the left side also, but in those cases it would split the pair. To provide an exclusion, one of the phones on the premises had to serve as the 'master phone'. The pair from the telephone exchange came to that instrument first. It came in on the first (red/green) pair, the looped back out on the second (yellow/ black) pair. Lifting that plunger a quarter inch or so forced a couple of metal contacts inside the phone to spread apart, thus preventing the loop out from ever getting out of the phone. From the phone it went out on the second pair, *then* back to the demarc where normal distribu- tion began. When the user of the master phone wanted no one else to hear what was being said, he would raise that plunger; instantly all the other extensions in the house went dead. When old style answering services were very common, and a subscriber line was simply bridged or jumpered in the central office to a pair going to the answering service, exclusion keys were used a lot so the answering service would not 'see' your calls. It was the same principle, but an 'exclusion switch' would generally be mounted near the front door of your premises. The CO sent your calls in on a pair; someway or another it got looped back through that switch mounted near your front door, and back to the CO for the jumper to the answering service. When you came in you were expected to remember to flip that switch one way, to cut off the extension going to the answering service. When you left for lunch for for the day or the weekend or whatever you were expected to remember to flip the switch the other way, thus putting the answering service back on line for your calls. PAT] ------------------------------ From: billsohl@earth.planet.net (Bill Sohl Budd Lake) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 9 Jan 1995 04:15:51 GMT Organization: Planet Access Networks - Stanhope, NJ In response to several prior comments, Pat wrote: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Not only is it illegal for a store to > sell such units, it is often times against corporate policy to even > discuss the possibility of modification. Pat, the sale of such scanners is NOT illegal, see my proposed FAQ on this subject below. > but back then 'secret government radio stations' -- oh, the RS clerks > knew them all. Then about ten years ago as 800 meg scanners were > becoming more common, those mysterious mod sheets ("I dunno who left > it here in the store, but we made some copies for customers ..") > discussed how to change RS scanners to pick up cellular phones by > clipping a diode here and there. > But then the feds came to Fort Worth one day with a blunt message > for all concerned: "Can the shit!" said the FCC. You betcha! Maybe that was true, maybe not, regardless, all the MODS are readily available today and are often written up in publications such as "Monitoring Times" and other communications hobbyist magazines. > Within a few days a memo was hanging on the back wall in the office > of every Radio Shack store which said there would be no further > discussion of 'mods' with customers under any circumstances. Not only > that, if the customer mentioned making mods, the clerk was to *decline > the sale* rather than possibly be later found to be part of a > conspiracy or a scheme. What kind of "conspiracy"? Not meant as a flame, but other than modifying CBs for out-of-frequency operation or for illegally increasing the CBs power, modifying most other equipment such as scanners violates nothing. The above response by Pat, comp.dcom,telecom moderator, contained a few errors with regard to the sale of equipment (i.e. scanners) that can or could be used to listen to cellular telephone calls. To clarify things a bit, here's the current perspective on the laws that affect the actual act of listening versus the equipment that might be used to listen. I have written this as a set of Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) which I offer to Pat (or anyone else) to use as they see fit. FAQ: Listening to CELLULAR or CORDLESS Telephone Conversations Version 0.1 (draft), last updated 1/8/94 Send any suggested text changes/corrections updates to Bill Sohl. email: billsohl@planet.net Q1 - Is it illegal to listen to CELLULAR telephone converstaions? YES - The 1986 Electronics Communication Privacy Act made it illegal for anyone to listen to cellular telephone conversations. Doing so since then has been and still is a federal violaion of the ECPA. Q2 - Did the 1986 ECPA impact the legality of scanners and/or other radio receivers that can be used to receive CELLULAR telephone conversations (segments of the 800 MHz band)? NO - The ECPA did NOT in any way make it illegal to own, manufacture, import, sell or personally built yourself, the equipment that could be used to listen to cellular telephone calls. Q3 - Didn't manufacturers alter their scanner designs to exclude the CELLULAR frequencies? YES - Some manufacturers did modify their line of scanners to eliminate the ability to receive or tune to cellular frequencies (e.g. the Tandy line of Radio Shack scanners). Even in the case of those manufacturers that changed their design to eliminate the CELLULAR frequencies, the design change usually was a simple memory lock-out that was easily "restored" by simply clipping a diode inside the scanner. Additionally, some other manufacturers continued to offer radio receivers and scanners that covered the entire spectrum of frequencies including celllar (800 MHz). Q4 - Are manufacturers still making scanners that can receive CELLULAR? NO, not in the USA - As mentioned above, the original ECPA legislation in no way made such equipment illegal The current REGULATIONS covering radio scanning receivers (i.e. the receiving equipment) came about by order of Congress in 1993 (at the prompting of the CELLULAR industry) to force the Federal Communications Commission to promulgate design requirements to eliminate "Scanner" manufacturers from making or importing scanners which could receive CELLULAR frequencies. The FCC did promulgate such rules and as of April 26, 1994 it became illegal to manufacture or import any scanner which could receive CELLULAR frequencies OR which could be "easily modified" to receive cellular frequencies. Q5 - How come scanners are still being advertised for sale as being capable of receiving CELLULAR? It is important to note that the FCC design rules impact only NEW equipment built or imported after April 26, 1994. Thus, any store which has any existing stocks of "pre-4/26/94" CELLULAR capable scanners can continue to sell them until they have no more stock. Q6 - What is the legality of owning a scanner that can receive CELLULAR? It is perfectly legal. None of the already existing scanners in the USA (probably a million or more) which can receive CELLULAR or be easily modified to receive CELLULAR are illegal to own or sell. Thus, it is perfectly legal to offer for sale any scanners which may be cellular capable and where built before the 4/26/94 FCC deadline. Q7 - Is it illegal to modify a scanner so it can receive CELLULAR? NO - There is no law which makes it illegal to modify an existing radio (or scanner) to receive CELLULAR...or, for that matter if one has the technical ability to do so, from building their own CELLULAR receiver from scratch. The FCC regulations against manufacture and importation are design requirements placed on MANUFACTURERS and not on individuals who might construct their own radio receiving equipment, even if it happens to be capable of receiving CELLULAR. Q7 - What are converters which make it possible to receive CELLULAR frequencies on scanners that can't receive CELLULAR? Converters (AKA block converters) receive a range of frequencies and convert them to another range of frequencies. A CELLULAR converter typically will receive the entire 800-900MHz band and convert it to a range of 400-500MHz which can easily be received by almost any scanner ever built. Q8 - Are converters for CELLULAR illegal to manufacture or import? YES - The same FCC April 26, 1994 deadline for CELLULAR capable scanners also affected CELLULAR Converter manufacture and importation. BUT ... the design and construction of a block converter involves, in general electronic terms, a relatively trivial circuit. Today there are several converter "kits" on the market which provide to the purchaser the circuit design, a how to set of instructions and all the electronic components to build such a converter themselves with just a small soldering iron. Q9 - What about listening to CORDLESS telephone conversations? A late 1994 congressional action amended the ECPA's listening prohibition to now include CORDLESS phones. Prior to that change, it was completely legal (except in a handful of states with state laws prohibiting CORDLESS listening) to listen to CORDLESS telephone conversations. With the amended ECPA, it is now illegal on a federal basis (and thus everywhere in the USA) to listen to CORDLESS telephone conversations as well as CELLULAR conversations. Q10 - What about scanners that can receive CORDLESS frequencies. There are no design regulations which prohibit the manufacture or importation of scanners that can receive the CORDLESS frequenices. Unlike CELLULAR frequencies which are in the Ultra High Frequency (UHF) range which was not included in many inexpensive scanners, the CORDLESS frequencies (46-49 MHz) are in the Very High Frequency (VHF) range and can be received by literally EVERY scanner ever made (probably several million). Q11 - Will it ever be illegal to own receivers (scanners) that can recieve CELLULAR and/or CORDLESS frequencies? Speculative answer follows: In as much as there are millions of such recievers/scanners already legally owned, it is quite unlikely that any federal or state law would be passed that would make such equipment illegal to own and, therefor, force peole to turn in to some government entity. This is further underscored by the fact that the CORDLESS and CELLULAR frequencies are only a small segment of the frequencies that are receivable by any scanner and thus all such scanners have numerous legal listening capabiliies (police, fire, rescue, amateur radio, TV, aircraft, etc.) despite their ability to be used illegally to listen to either CORDLESS or CELLULAR frequencies. Q12 - How effective are these laws in stopping people from listening (eavesdropping) on CELLULAR or CORDLESS conversations? Probably not very effective at all. Since millions of receivers/scanners exist already, such listening, although illegal, probably goes on all the time. Illegal listening is impossible to detect and thus impossible to stop. The only possible way to learn of someone eavesdropping on CORDLESS or CELLULAR is if the individual admits doing so on their own and that isn't very unlikely. Q13 - Should I be concerned that my CORDLESS or CELLULAR conversation is being listened to? The probability that any individual call is being listened to is very low, however, it makes good sense to treat any CORDLESS or CELLULAR conversation as if it was being listened to .. .don't discuss highly confidential information (especially credit card numbers) on such calls. Q14 - Will CELLULAR or CORDLESS conversations ever be safe from eavesdropping? If and only if such calls are encrypted will any measure of increased security be available to users. The technology is available, but the deployment of encryption will take time and require current users to change their equipment (their current non-encrypted CORDLESS and CELLULAR telephones). -----end of FAQ----- Bill Sohl K2UNK (Budd lake, New Jersey) (billsohl@planet.net) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are wrong on a couple things, however that is because of confusion over contradictory laws. Aside from what the Electronic Commuications Privacy Act says, the Federal Communications Commission addresses the question of radios which have been modified. Illegal modification (i.e. modification by an unlicensed person) voids your FCC authority to operate the radio. Furthermore, no *licensed* person is going to make illegal modifications to a radio and risk having such handiwork be traced back to his bench, at the possible risk of his loss of his license. Quoting from memory from a conversation over a year ago with Bill Bartels, District Sales Manager for Radio Shack for the northern district of Illinois (this does not include Chicago, considered a district of its own), after seeing the memorandum sent to RS store managers on this topic, I noted to Mr. Bartels that 'it looks to me like the feds put some heat on RS corporate in Fort Worth ...' and he responded that he and several of the DSMs and RSMs (District and Regional Sales Managers) had met in Fort Worth when 'the topic came up', and 'I would have to say you are correct, but I cannot discuss it further ...'. There was no EPCA discussion in this, other than as it coincidentally occurred. It was simply a case of the FCC telling Radio Shack to 'get your clerks to quit screwing around with all this illegal stuff', and Tandy's attornies were sufficiently impressed with what they had been instructed by the FCC that down through channels it went. The store here in Skokie has it hanging in the office in back; a newspaper account of some company which got banged hard by the FCC; a memo from Tandy to the RSM/DSM people (that's the *only* people corporate speaks with; they never deal direct with the store managers, and certainly never the clerks, that is the job of the DSM's), and the manager's note to his employees: "*NEVER* discuss illegal mods with any customer for any reason." The 'conspiracy connection': the law provides that if you knowingly transfer ownership of some item to some other person, knowing (or if you should have known) that the person intends it to be used illegally then whatever beef the government has with him later on, if it can be demonstrated that you knew his intentions then you can be charged as a co-conspirator. It does not have to be radios. For example, you go to a store and buy a device to automatically tape record what is said over the phone. You say to the clerk, "I am buying this so I can spy on my neighbor's (wife's, whoever) phone calls ..." If the clerk sells it to you knowing your intended use, he aided and abetted you in the commission of your crime. Haven't you ever noticed how when someone famous gets shot or killed, along the way there is always an attempt to drag the gun dealer who sold the weapon to the deranged person into the process? Apparently Radio Shack has gotten sued here and there by the victims of someone spying on them over the radio or telephone, etc. No one is saying it is against the law to *discuss* illegal things; merely that you cannot *do* illegal things. Radio Shack says you won't even *discuss* illegal things if you want to remain on their payroll. As it was told to me, a few years ago when FCC agents were raiding the homes/workshops of guys who specialized in building/selling pirate, out of band CB radios, and guys who were willfully causing interference on cellular phone frequencies, time and again they'd find RS equipment being used, and crude typewritten notes 'published' by RS clerks showing how to do whatever was being done. The FCC said that could be taken as conspiracy and the Tandy attornies agreed with the assessment. How seriously does RS take this? They even send 'shoppers' out from corporate unknown to local store personnel who go to the local RS store to check the store out secretly for general purposes. In the process, they wave a big wad of money around implying they want to buy every peice of radio equipment in the store's inventory, cash of course, 'but I would rather not give my name for your computer, and I will need some advice on how to fix these units to work the way I want them to ...' In other words, they egg the hungry, paid by commission clerk on, trying to get him to spill his guts right there in the store. They'll ask the same questions over and over, a half-dozen different ways, and let the clerk keep politely dodging the issue. It makes no difference what magazines publish articles on these things any more than it matters that 'true detective' magazines publish articles on bank robberies and how they were done. It's just that you cannot drive the getaway car for the bank robber any more than you can be the person who actually robbed the bank. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 16:32:35 -0500 From: rjs@farnsworth.mit.edu (Richard Jay Solomon) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Patrick: In Digest #9 you ran an AP story, "Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges." Is your bracketed comment in #11 that this was an overheard play rehearsal related to the original story? Am I missing something here? I never saw an official press item about the play rehearsal, just your bracketed comments? Richard Solomon [TELECOM Digest Egitor's Note: That part (the overhearing of play rehersal and the inappropriate actions taken) was a separate incident not related at all to the originally reported event. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Alan Shen Subject: Re: Cellular NAM and ESN Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 21:13:53 -0800 Organization: University of Washington On Thu, 5 Jan 1995, Greg Segallis wrote: > Can two cellular phones be programmed to the same NAM, while their > ESN's are different, so that either phone can be used on one number? > Assume only one phone can be on at a time (e.g. I have a car phone I > use while on the road and a portable I use when I'm away from my car). > Does the cellular carrier use the NAM to connect calls or the ESN, or > both? If the ESN must be the same, can I alter the one to match the > other? This would not be done to steal anyone else's service, just to > allow me the convenience of using both my phones as the situation > requires/allows. What are the legal issues in doing this? Call your cellular carrier about this. Some will allow you to have one NAM for two different phones (with different ESN numbers) for an extra charge usually from about $5-$8 a month. Of course, you are correct in stating that you can use only one phone at a time. But it sure does beat the heck outta paying for another monthly service! Daniel Kao ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.uu.net (Alan Boritz) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 95 17:32:36 EST Organization: Harry's Place - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861 zanolla@agouti.cig.mot.com (Donald J. Zanolla) writes: >> You might want to call AT&T up and tell them you don't appreciate them >> slamming your line. (Their ears perk up nicely when they hear "slam" >> too). > Please define SLAM in this context. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: "Slamming" has always been defined in this > context as the unauthorized switching of long distance carriers on a phone > line. If for example you are a customer of AT&T and one day you discover > that your default (one plus or zero plus) carrier has been changed to > Sprint -- just an example -- without your permission or knowledge, then > we say that (in this example) Sprint 'slammed' your line. PAT] Here's how the FCC defines "slamming": NEWS Report No. DC-2681 ACTION IN DOCKET CASE November 10, 1994 FCC TAKES FURTHER ACTION TO PREVENT UNAUTHORIZED SWITCHING OF LONG DISTANCE CARRIERS (CC DOCKET NO. 94-129) Citing over 4,000 complaints received in the last two years, the FCC today asked for comments on ways to eliminate the practice of changing a customer's long-distance telephone company without the customer's knowledge or approval. This practice is commonly known as "slamming." Current FCC rules require that a company must obtain the customer's authorization in order to change his or her long distance service. One method of obtaining this authorization is by a Letter of Agency (LOA), by which the customer indicates, in writing, that he or she wishes to switch long distance companies. The Commission's investigation of "slamming" complaints has revealed that a significant cause of the problem has been confusion regarding the purpose of the LOAs. The Commission's proposed rules are designed to prevent such consumer confusion. At present, many long distance carriers combine LOAs with promotional inducements, such as contest entries, prize giveaways, and checks, which are designed to attract new customers. As a result, recipients may be unaware that by signing the document to enter the contest, claim the prizes, or cash the checks, they also are supposedly "authorizing" the company to change their long distance carrier. In order to further protect consumers from these misleading inducements, the Commission has proposed to require (1) that LOAs be separate from other promotional or inducement materials; (2) that the LOAs be limited strictly to authorizing a change in long distance carriers; and (3) that they be clearly identified as an LOA. Further, the Commission has proposed that the language in the LOA be clear and unambiguous and that the print be of sufficient size and readable style to be clear to the consumer that the document, if signed, would change his or her long distance company. Noting that it is very concerned about the problem of slamming in the non-English speaking community, the Commission is also seeking comment on whether it should adopt rules to govern bilingual or non-English language LOAs. For example, the Commission seeks comment on whether it should require all parts of the LOA to be fully translated if any parts are translated. Finally, the Commission seeks comment on several other issues pertaining to unauthorized changes of consumers' long distance companies that have come to its attention as a result of consumer complaints. For example, comments are requested concerning: (1) whether and to what extent consumers should be liable for the long distance telephone charges billed to them by the unauthorized carrier; and (2) whether all LOAs should be captioned "An Order to Change My Long Distance Telephone Service Provider" or a similar title that makes it clearer to consumers that the LOA authorizes a change in their long distance service. Action by the Commission, November 10, 1994, by Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (FCC 94-292). Chairman Hundt, Commissioners Quello, Barrett, Ness and Chong. -FCC- News Media contact: Susan Lewis Sallet at (202) 418-0500. Common Carrier Bureau contacts: Donna Lampert at (202) 418-1580 and Wilbert Nixon, Jr. at (202) 418-0960. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 03:10:03 +0200 From: Ari.Wuolle@hut.fi (Ari Wuolle) Subject: Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T > Well, we'll find out how this works over here in a couple of years. > Austria just joined the EU, and the EU has decreed the end of telecom > monopolies by the end of 1996 (or is it 1998)? We will all be faced > with the same problems and privileges then. Finland also just joined EU, but our local and long distance monopolies ended already 1st January 1994. International call traffic was deregulated fully in summer 1994. So far none of the three LD carriers have started sending checks to persuade customers selecting their service as default service. Only one carrier offers extras others don't. Since switching carriers doesn't cost anything here in Finland, LD carriers don't even need to offer to pay for swiching. There were few small price cuts last spring, but since then prices have been steady. (Telecom Finland had been reducing their rates already before LD competition, so their charges were competitive to other carriers right from begining of 1994.) Even new year didn't change long distance call rates here in Finland. If you choose Telecom Finland to be your default carrier and accept direct billing from them, you will get three extras - free itemised bill on your Telecom LD calls, 1 second increment billing and "Tasarahaetu". Tasarahaetu means that if your LD calls (within one billing period, two months) are over 100 FIM, your LD bill will be rounded down to next 50 FIM. E.g. 149 FIM will round to 100 and 155 FIM will round to 150 FIM. If you have meter pulses sent down on your line for e.g. payphone or hotel PBX then you cannot have these three extras - result would be getting meter pulses only for local call part and not for LD call. Other two carriers bill traditionally only through your local telco in meter pulses. You can always choose different carrier by dialling its carrier code before telephone number you are calling to. Telcom Finland is 101, Telivo 1041 and Kaukoverkko Ysi 109. Currently you cannot choose default international carrier - you must use correct international access code, which are now carrier dependent, 990 for Telecom Finland, 994 for Telivo and 999 for Finnet. (Old international access code was 990.) Hopefully this will change in 1996 when new 00 international access code will take over old ones. If someone is interested, here are current Finnish LD rates: FIM/minute Mon-Fri Mon-Fri & Sat-Sun Everyday incl. tax 08-17 17-20 08-20 20-08 Telecom Finland 0.40 1) 0.33, 0.09 1) 0.33, 0.09 Telivo 0.33 0.23 0.23 Kaukoverkko Ysi 0.40 0.25 0.20 NoZj} carrier 2) 0.40 0.33 0.33 1) First 5.6 minutes of call is charged 0.33 FIM/minute, following minutes are charged 0.09 FIM/minute. 2) If you do not choose any carrier you are charged a rate defined by ministry of traffic and communications (read: the highest rate any carrier uses. Actually now it is higher than with any carrier after working hours.) This type of calls are divided between LD carriers in respect of their market share. All money also goes to LD carriers - ministry won't get any leftovers. 1 FIM is about US$ 0.21 Distance doesn't matter with LD calls - if it is within a telecommunications region it is local, if it is to another telecommunications region it is long distance. Finland is divided into 13 telecommunications regions. Ari Wuolle Disclaimer: All opinions are mine, not HUT's. e-mail Ari.Wuolle@hut.fi s-mail Kolkekannaksentie 10 B 4 telephone + 358 0 509 2073 02720 ESPOO cellphone + 358 49 431 140 FINLAND fax + 358 0 428 429 (temporary) ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: 101xxxx: Not Yet Date: 8 Jan 1995 04:19:41 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , Paul Robinson writes: > In attempting to do a carrier check from a 301-587 number in > Montgomery County, Maryland, I got a time out and a recording of > inability to complete the call, when attempting to dial >1010288 1 700 555 1212 > The call timed out as if I was trying to call > 10102 881 7005 > E.g. making a local call using carrier 10102 instead. > So it's not set up yet. I tried the same thing on the 3rd and it worked fine in Southern Bell Ft. Lauderdale. 1010XXX calls all route permissivly with 10XXX, regardless of IXC. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: British Telecom Cuts Rates to Canada and U.S. Date: 8 Jan 1995 04:34:24 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , dleibold@gvc.com (Dave Leibold) writes: > British Telecom calls from the UK to Canada and the U.S. will cost > about 20% less effective February 1995, according to a BT announcement > reported by the Associated Press. The cuts were reportedly authorized > by the UK regulator last year as part of a price reductions scheme. > The sample rate given was for a three minute call at the lowest rate > period: the former rate was equivalent to CAD$3.14; the new rate will > be CAD$2.49. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Do you think this price reduction is > somehow tied in with the recent ability to dial 1-800 numbers in the > USA from the UK as Clive pointed out a couple days ago? PAT] Wow! How is BT going to survive. This reduction reduces there gross margin from about 89% to 85% on these calls. Poor monopoly. :) If they only realized that it works like a tax cut. Reduce the rate and you take in more revenues. In a truly competitive environment at both ends, US/UK calls would be about $0.25 per minute in either direction. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 8 Jan 1995 05:02:38 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , woof@telecnnct.com (Andy Spitzer) writes: > naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes: > On a "quiet" idle channel (AB bits both 0), using u-Law PCM, pattern sent > over the channel would be: (in hex, LSB last) > FF FF FF FF FF FE FF FF FF FF FF FE ... > The difference in voltage of a standard CODEC (A/D converter for PCM) > from FF to FF is about 2 mV (on a scale from -8031 to +8031 mV). So, > converted to an analog signal, the above waveform is a series of 2 mV > impulses occuring every 8000/6 = 1333.3 Hz. This waveform is rich in > harmonics, so it "sounds" like a very high pitched, (although rather > quiet) whine, similar to the "ringing in your ears" sound. > Once the line is taken offhook (aka AB bits both become 1), then the > pattern becomes: > FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF ... > which is dead quiet. (And since LSB=1, and AB=1 there is no distortion!) > Thus the noise associated with robbed bit signalling can be viewed as > superimposing the intended signal with the above impluse train. > Perhaps armed with this information, someone else can calculate the > noise/distortion measurments you are seeking. The above discussion concerns only idle circuit noise. For voice-band modem transmission (or actual speech) the bit stolen bit will be wrong on average 1/2 of the time. The absolute magnitude of the error will depend on the absolute level being encoded. The impact on the S/N ratio is on the order of 2db. Other types of bit errors are much more serious that robbed bit because they are likely to affect more signficant bits and are likely to cause a great enough error to affect the demodulation resulting in an error in one more data bits. In , whs70@cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) writes: > Final comment, where you would possibly have ribbed bit signaling from > the premise to the central office is if there is a PBX which is connected > to the central office using a DS-1 trunk/tie line arrangement, but I don't > think that was what the original poster was questioning. .. Or a D4/AMI channel bank in the loop plant at either or both ends. .. Or a D4/AMI EC interoffice trunk at either or both ends. .. Or a D4/AMI Feature Group D trunk at either or both ends. .. Or a D4/AMI Intermachine Trunk in the IC's network. There must have been about four godzillion lines of D4 equipment deployed in the networks. If you guys have replaced it all with B8ZS, where I can I buy the "old" D4's and M13's :) Or are they all buried in a hole somewhere so they stay in the rate base ? ;) Also, I'm interested in the number of Feature Group D trunks that are now both B8ZS ... AND ... SS#7. If this number is more than a few percent it means that the LEC's and IC's together accomplished the quickest large scale technical deployment in the history of the world. I can believe that SS#7 penetration is growing fast. This, however, does imply elimination of the AMI trunks. The IC's can selectively route the few clear channel calls over B8ZS tandem trunks and take years to slowly replace the AMI trunks. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #15 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa19899; 9 Jan 95 20:30 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA06062; Mon, 9 Jan 95 14:52:06 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA06054; Mon, 9 Jan 95 14:52:03 CST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 14:52:03 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501092052.AA06054@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #16 TELECOM Digest Mon, 9 Jan 95 16:52:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 16 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd (Mark Robert Smith) New: Telecom Policy On-line (Jeff Richards) EtherFRAD for T1? 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: msmith@pluto.njcc.com (Mark Robert Smith) Subject: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 08:34:39 EST Organization: New Jersey Computer Connection, Lawrenceville, NJ Here's the press release, fresh off the Bell Atlantic WWW Server (http://ba.com/): January 4, 1995 Steve Fleischer(BAM) 908-306-7539 Brian Wood(BAM) 908-306-7508 Kim Ancin(NYNEX) 914-365-7573 Jim Gerace(NYNEX) 914-365-7712 LEADING CELLULAR CARRIERS JOIN FORCES TO PROTECT CUSTOMERS FROM BECOMING PHONE FRAUD VICTIMS BEDMINSTER, NJ, AND ORANGEBURG, NY -- Two of the nation's largest wireless carriers are teaming up in a unique program to prevent their customers from being victimized by criminals who steal cellular service. The new effort combines a Personal Identification Number (PIN) code system recently pioneered by NYNEX Mobile Communications in New York City with a new Fraud Protection Zone technique developed by Bell Atlantic Mobile. Starting January 9, Bell Atlantic Mobile will designate a Fraud Protection Zone restricting calling throughout the greater New York City area for its customers from Washington, DC; Baltimore; Pittsburgh; and greater Philadelphia, including Delaware and southern New Jersey. Customers from those markets who want to use their phones at standard "roaming" rates in New York City must first contact Bell Atlantic Mobile by dialing 211 from their cellular phone. After they provide proper identification and select a PIN code, the company will deactivate the fraud zone restriction. Once the PIN feature is activated, it gives customers protection from fraud whenever they use it to place calls in New York, their home market, or any market with a PIN system. The Fraud Protection Zone will not be activated for the company's northern New Jersey customers, because New York City is part of their local calling area. Since customers who travel frequently into New York City are at risk from cloning, Bell Atlantic Mobile strongly recommends that northern New Jersey customers sign up for the PIN system. Eventually all new customers will be required to use PINs. Bell Atlantic Mobile will start notifying its customers of the new program today. However, those who are not aware of it will still be able to place calls in New York with a credit card, until they sign up for the PIN. They will not receive incoming calls. "By combining our fraud protection systems, Bell Atlantic and NYNEX offer customers the best of both worlds," said Rick Conrad, Bell Atlantic Mobile executive vice president and chief operating officer. "We protect Bell Atlantic customers by making their phone numbers difficult to clone, or copy, for use in New York, while providing easy access to the New York cellular system through the PIN feature." Fraud costs the cellular industry more than $1 million per day. By teaming together, Conrad said, the carriers reduce its impact on customers. "A customer who has been cloned experiences a great deal of inconvenience. This is not a victimless crime," he added. "We demonstrated with our unique PIN code initiative, that the use of state-of-the-art technology can prevent the theft of cellular service," said Cynthia J. White, NYNEX Mobile executive vice president and chief operating officer. "PIN codes, and the pursuit and prosecution of those who commit these crimes, have put a significant crimp in the illegal business of cloning. "The NYNEX/Bell Atlantic effort sends yet another message to phone cloners that carriers can and will work together to protect the public from this crime." Just as PIN systems increase security for banking and long distance telephone customers, the PIN feature will severely limit the possibil- ity of cellular phone numbers being cloned and used in any city where carriers use PIN technology. In the rare instance that they are cloned, customers only need to call their home carrier and receive a new PIN to restore service. By con- trast, customers not using PINs must bring their phones back to a carrier or dealer for a new phone number, notify business associates and friends of the number change, or even modify business cards and stationery. With a PIN system, customers simply dial the desired phone number, press "send," enter their PIN code, and press "send" again. The net- work then completes the call. There is no extra charge and the feature will not affect commonly used cellular services like voice mail or call waiting. Calls to 911, 611 and 411 do not require a PIN. Bell Atlantic and NYNEX have announced that they will combine their cellular operations in the mid-Atlantic, Northeast, Southeast, and Southwest. The proposed company will serve over two million customers and be a strong national force in the wireless industry, with 55 million potential customers in seven of the top 20 cellular markets. The companies expect to close the transaction in the second quarter of 1995. ### ------------------------------- What they don't tell you is that the exclusion zone includes parts of Northern New Jersey, specifically the Jersey City switch which goes as far north as Secaucus and south to New Brunswick. They also fail to mention that once you get a PIN number, you must use it to make all calls, even those outside the zone. I'm really disappointed that they've imposed this on the customer OUTSIDE the area, while allowing those in the area to make calls without a PIN. At least that's how I read the release, though a friend who has B.A. told me before this was announced that he had to use a PIN. Why don't they start spending the money they spent on ECPA lobbying to invent a more secure system?!?!?!? Mark Smith Mercerville, NJ ------------------------------ From: Jeff Richards Subject: New: Telecom Policy On-line Date: 9 Jan 1995 13:19:37 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 The Alliance for Competitive Communications (formerly the MFJ Task Force) announced today that it has named former USTA Chairman Gary McBee to coordinate the seven regional Bell Companies' 1995 effort to reform telecommunications laws. Information about this announcement can be found at the newly-revamped . http://bell.com gopher://bell.com Additions include: - Pointers to recently-added legislative resources; - An archive of the 103rd Congress Telecommunications actions; - A new, easier-to-follow format; - A listserver for individuals who want to receive regular updates on telecommunications legislation. To subscribe send a message to: listserver@bell.com with the message: subscribe bell firstname lastname will be updated on a regular basis for individuals wanting to follow telecommunications reform legislation. Please feel free to reply to me with any comments. Please address questions to: . Thanks, Jeff Richards Alliance for Competitive Communications | Internet: richards@bell.com http://bell.com gopher://bell.com ------------------------------ From: pete@dswi.com (Pete Kruckenberg) Subject: EtherFRAD for T1? Date: 9 Jan 1995 06:57:20 -0700 Organization: DahlinSmithWhite, Inc. US West told me they sell a (Codex) "Bandguard" Ethernet FRAD (Ethernet <=> frame-relay) with DSU for 56k frame-relay service, but not for T1. I'm curious to know if there is such a thing for T1 frame-relay. Also, what has people's experience been with using EtherFRADs with a Unix IP router vs. CSU/DSU and "normal" router? Thanks, Pete Kruckenberg pete@dswi.com ------------------------------ Subject: Sprint and Calls Within Your Service Area From: henderson@mln.com (Javier Henderson) Date: 6 Jan 95 16:54:34 PST Organization: Medical Laboratory Network; Ventura, CA I just got off the phone with Sprint's customer service. Their special offer of one cent per minute for calls within your service area applies to all of Sprint customers, regarldess of what calling plan you're on. You need to dial 10333, but considering the savings, I don't mind. The charge is the same regardless of mileage. The offer will expire on Feb 28, 1995. I'm not associated with Sprint, other than as a mostly satisfied customer. The above applies to residential lines in Southern California. Other areas within California may have the same deal, you'd better check. Javier Henderson (JH21) henderson@mln.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 01:23:52 EST Subject: Phone Rates Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA From: Paul Robinson Eric Naggum writes: > I'm covering Norway's telecommunication privatization effort for > a local newspaper, and need some information that I have not been > able to collect from Telenor (the newly renamed Norwegian > telephone company) or other PTT's directly. Please mail me > answers -- I'll post the article here after it has been published. > 1. Local, analog, single-pair leased lines, i.e., the basic local loop for > ordinary telephone service, only now as a leased line to another > subscriber in the same CO. I'm looking to compare the cost > of acquisition and rent for one year. Last time I checked, which was about four years ago before Internet accessibility was affordable, if I wanted to get a 64K line from my site, say to Suranet which is at the University of Maryland, College Park, the rate quoted from C&P telephone was US $115 plus $4 per mile, per month. Note in the rates below, these rates do not include taxes which probably range in the 2% figure, and installation of phone lines is extra. > 3. 24-hour local phone call, i.e., an ordinary phone call to a > subscriber in the same CO as yourself -- one call that lasts 24 hours > straight on a weekday. A 24-hour call is used to obtain comparable > numbers across all kinds of reduced rates. Residential service here comes in three flavors, per call, timed per call and unlimited. Business can get per call and timed per call. Unlimited service costs a residential customer about US $20 a month plus taxes, and allows unlimited calls of unlimited duration between phones in the same service area. Here in the Washington Metropolitan area, figure that as being roughly a circle extending for 20 miles in each direction from the Washington Monument. In essence, the calling area here is: All of Washington DC, all of Prince Georges county in Maryland, the lower half of Montgomery County in Maryland, All of Fairfax and Arlington Counties in Virginia plus the independent cities, as far as Dulles Airport in Chantilly, VA. People who live in the Maryland suburbs have extended local service outside this area, so I can call parts of Gaithersburg MD as a local call that someone in Northern Virginia would have to pay as a short-distance toll call. Someone in Northern Virginia will have extended reach into Virginia, of course. On all local area calls, if one doesn't have unlimited service, the rate is either 9.0c for residential and 9.9c for business for each call placed, of unlimited connection time. In theory you could pay $20 for two business phone lines, place a call between them and keep the line up all month for around $40 or so, as opposed to paying much more for a dedicated line. I changed one of my lines from residential to commercial service. The Commercial rate is around US $19.00 a month plus taxes. If you take timed service, the rate is 1.3c for the connection, and 1c for each minute after the first minute. 100c = US $1. You can do the math for the local currency there using current conversion rates. A residential customer can get service where he gets 65 call units included in his bill for $8.50 a month plus taxes. As an example of net costs, for three phone lines in my house each having 65 call units (a call unit being one phone call of unlimited length), the cost is US $55 a month to have three phone lines and an aggregate of 195 call units a month, then 9.0c each after 195, if I ever use that many. (My rate is higher because I have a number of optional services including a virtual telephone number, call waiting and three-way calling on one of my lines.) I have routinely spent 6 hour calls on the phone to my Internet service provider reading and writing mail and news, and downloading files gotten via FTP. These numbers are meaningless unless you have value of money figures. My brother has an ordinary job as a cashier at a drugstore chain, he makes $5.50 each hour, and works 40 hours a week (and it took him two years to get to that rate; "minimum wage" here is $4.50 per hour if I remember correctly.) A 16oz bottle of soda here is about 75c, a loaf of bread about 65c to $1.25 depending on what one buys, a pound of hamburger about $1.65, a gallon of milk about US $2.40. In Long Beach, California when I was there seven years ago, a local call for a business number cost the customer 5c for each five minutes or fraction thereof, e.g. a five minute and one second call was 10c. Outdoor Public Coin telephones here are 25c per call, untimed. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 03:10:25 -0500 Subject: Vice President Al Gore to Speak on Telecom at Summit Jan. 9 From: ndallen@io.org (Nigel Allen) Organization: Internex Online Here is a press release from U.S. Vice President Al Gore. I downloaded the press release from the PR On-Line BBS in Maryland at 410-363-0834. I do not work for the U.S. government. Vice President Gore to Give Keynote at Federal-State-Local Telecom Summit Jan. 9 News Advisory: Vice President Al Gore will give the keynote address at a conference of federal, state, and local officials on the role of the federal government in promoting competition, lowering prices, increasing choices and achieving universal service in telecommunications services. He will join other officials at all levels of government from across the country to discuss these telecommunications issues. The Vice President will speak at 9 a.m. (ET) at the Department of Commerce Auditorium, 14th and Constitution Ave, NW. The Vice President's speech is OPEN PRESS. The Annenberg Washington Program and the Administration's Information Infrastructure Task Force are sponsoring the day-long conference. The morning session of the summit will be open to the public and the press. In addition to the Vice President Gore, Members of Congress, Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, Federal Cmmunications Commission Chairman Reed Hundt, and elected and appointed state and local telecommunications officials also will participate including representatives from the National Association of Counties, National Black Caucus of State Legislators, the National League of Cities and the United States Conference of Mayors. Media who would like more information about press coverage should contact Stephanie Schoumacher at the Department of Commerce 202-482-1551. ------------------------------ Subject: FCC Proposes To Fine AT&T $1,000,000 For Comm Act Violations From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.uu.net (Alan Boritz) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 95 00:05:30 EST Organization: Harry's Place - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861 From ftp.fcc.gov: NEWS Report No. CC 95-2 COMMON CARRIER ACTION January 4, 1995 FCC PROPOSES $1 MILLION FORFEITURE AGAINST AT&T FOR FAILING TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO RESELLERS The Commission has notified AT&T of its apparent liability for forfeiture in the amount of $1,000,000 for violating the Communications Act by failing to provide service to three reseller customers who requested service under an AT&T contract tariff. The Commission additionally has directed AT&T to show cause why it should not be required to furnish the service requested to GE Communications Systems, Inc. and Public Service Enterprises, Inc. within 30 days of the release of the Commission's Order. The third reseller customer has informed the Commission that it no longer wishes to obtain service under that contract tariff. The Communications Act requires common carriers to furnish interstate communication service upon reasonable request. The Commission found that, although three resellers ordered service under AT&T's Contract Tariff Number 383 in August and September of 1993, AT&T has not yet delivered service to the two reseller customers who still wish to receive service, nor has it provided a satisfactory reason for its delay in providing the service. The third reseller customer never received service under the contract tariff, and withdrew its request in late June 1994. The Commission has admonished carriers in the past to make all efforts to provide a requested service, and states further in the Order that "[t]his admonition is particularly relevant when an important Commission policy, such as our resale requirements, is thwarted by a carrier's refusal to provide service." The Commission has previously stated that unrestricted resale of communications services provides a valuable stimulus to competition, by creating incentives for carriers to offer services at prices that more closely reflect the underlying cost of providing the service. The unrestricted resale policy also reduces the likelihood of undue discrimination in the marketplace. The Commission stated that AT&T is apparently liable for a forfeiture of the statutory maximum of $1,000,000 because of the apparently intentional and continuing nature of the apparent violation of the Communications Act. Pursuant to Commission rules, AT&T must either pay the proposed forfeiture within thirty days, or file a response showing why the proposed forfeiture should not be paid or should be reduced. Action by the Commission, December 30, 1994, by Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture and Order to Show Cause (FCC 94-359). Chairman Hundt, Commissioners Barrett, Ness and Chong, with Commissioner Quello concurring in part and dissenting in part. -FCC- News Media contact: Susan Lewis Sallet and Audrey Spivack at (202) 418-0500. Common Carrier Bureau contacts: Donna Lampert at (202) 418-1500 and Debra Sabourin at (202) 418-1530. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 11:03:48 +0100 From: jean@xs4all.nl (Jean B Sarrazin) Subject: Phone Rates From Israel Would anyone know the phone rates from Israel to the US, Canada, UK, and Argentina? Thanks! Jean B Sarrazin Ekkosys Communications BV Amsterdam ------------------------------ From: meier@jolt.mpx.com.au (Alan Meier) Subject: PABX/IVR/Computer Integration Help Wanted Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 21:42:18 +1100 Organization: Suzanne Paul (Australia) Pty Ltd We are an inbound Telemarketing organization and I have been charged with the responsibility of putting together a system that will allow our Unix based database application work in concert with both a PABX and IVR equipment.I need some advice as to whether I am making the right equipment choice or not and I was hoping that someone with more knowledge than my own limited experience with Telepony equipment may be able to assist me. The PABX I have chosen is the NEX 7400 series as it seemed the only PABX that had a decent computer interface into the PABX. I have also looked at the voicemail systems and had settled on teh DECVox system although it does seem rather expensive they are asking 25,000 Australian dollars for an eight port VoiceMail/IVR System. Could someone please advise me as to whether my choice in equipment is wise and if not what equipment should I be considering. Thanks in advance to all those who reply to me. Hoping for some relies, Alan Meier ------------------------------ From: jspinnow@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (John Stewart Pinnow) Subject: Hayes Optima VS DEC SERVER 200 Revised Date: 9 Jan 1995 03:23:30 GMT Organization: Tmoh Research, Milwaukee, WI Well, I have tried with or without autobaud enabled and with autobaud enable I have modems seeking a weird DTE: Port 3: Server: SERV02 Character Size: 8 Input Speed: 4800 Flow Control: XON Output Speed: 4800 Parity: None Modem Control: Enabled Access: Local Local Switch: None Backwards Switch: None Name: PORT_6 Break: Disabled Session Limit: 4 Forwards Switch: None Type: Soft Now the port works, the other modem connects at 19200, but is jerky. I have configured one Zyxel (spelling?) and one Intel modem (With no manual to be found) to work on the same server and it just so happens their input and output speed is at a cozy 19200. The Optimas are doomed ... does anyone out there know what is going on? I ditched CTS/RTS ... and use Xon/Xoff. The future doesn't look bright for this modem pool. Tmoh Research Net: jspinnow@csd.uwm.edu Net: jspinnow@world.std.com John S. Pinnow jspinnow@netcom.com Url: http://www.uwm.edu/~jspinnow [414] 761-1537 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 07:12 EST From: bellaire@iquest.net (James Bellaire) Subject: 1-900 = $100,000 Fraud! The phone fraud files are open again! From the evening news ... > From WFRN-FM (Elkhart, IN) Radio News ... 1-6-95 (Names may be misspelled due to this being transcribed from a tape of a radio news broadcast.) The case of a Kosciusco County teen accused of using other people's credit card numbers to charge $100,000 worth of 1-900 calls is a reminder to keep a close eye on our long distance bill. Eighteen-year-old James Rhinehart (SP?) of Etna Green was jailed for theft and fraud. Mary Lee Cesna (?) of GTE in Elkhart says she's never seen a case like that here in Michiana. She says anytime we are billed for a long distance call we did not make we should contact the phone company who sent the bill. "You need to have that as a record that you did not make that call, even if it's 20 cents, because the following month it could be $20. And you want to make sure that whoever is your billing company knows that you did not make those calls." (Spokeswoman) Cesna says the company uses that information to pursue an investigation into the posibility of fraud such as in the Rhinehart case. WSBT-TV 28 (Elkhart, IN) Eleven O'Clock News added the following ... Police say Rhinehart made 30 - 40 900 calls per day to a sex line, charging them to area residents. Even the local sheriff was hit in this scam. [The sheriff then explained the scam.] GTE said they would remove the charges from the bills. --------------- How did he do it? The Etna Green telco is an old GTE telco that does not provide ANI information. The 900 service asked callers who did not come with ANI info to enter their number to continue, Rhinehart just entered other people's numbers at random. GTE's spokewoman assured Elkhart customers that their exchange provided ANI directly and was not vunerable to this kind of fraud. Sounds like the 1-900 sex line has the responsibility here. Manual input of your ANI should never be allowed! When I first heard this I thought this brat was a misguided genius. I didn't know the 900 service had made it so easy! bellaire@iquest.net James E. Bellaire [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There are very few places left where ANI does not come with the territory, so to speak. There are very few places where telco information providers do not get all the records they need to accurately bill for their services. I thought in those few instances where ANI could not be provided for whatever reason, the IP simply did not give service, or required some other method of billing such as a credit card. Like yourself, I'm amazed the IP took the customer's word for it. In regular long distance calling (or any call where a toll is involved) it is rare, but occassionally there will be an ANI failure for whatever reason, and in those cases the long distance operator will come on the line and ask 'what is the number you are calling from?'. People sometimes lie about that also, but I guess it is not quite as critical with the small amount of money involved nor is it as likely to be abused as are sex phone lines. Old people like myself on this mailing list will remember how many years ago the long distance operator had to ask the caller for his phone number on every single call. Even the local /0/ operator only got the prefix or exchange you were calling from ... not the last four digits. The way the switching machinery worked in those days, by the time your call reached its destination -- even if that was just the operator -- the last four digits had been lost in the matrix. There was no easy way to prove or disprove what the customer *said* his phone number was short of having one of the guys in the frames walk around rack after rack, row after row looking at the switches as one led to the next and the next, etc. AT&T did not invent the Electronic Switching System (ESS) purely to combat fraud, but that certainly was one side-affect; some icing for the cake. It had gotten in the early 1970's to the point where for all intents and purposes the public telephone network in the USA was completely out of control. Too many subscribers knew too much about how the system operated for AT&T's comfort. In 1970 toll fraud was at an all time high. At a hearing that year when New York Telephone wanted to raise their rates, a commissioner of the state utility regulators asked NYT how much they had to write off the year before due to toll fraud and the answer was about eight million dollars, by 1969 values ... that news was shocking enough that it received a large write up in quite a few newspapers nationally. 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Thank you! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 09:36 EST From: Hardwire <0003436453@mcimail.com> Subject: MCI Paging Announcement CONTACT: Ed Bergstraesser/Frank Walter MCI Business Markets 1-312-938-4958 1-800-644-NEWS Carol Aarhus MCI Consumer Markets 1-800-436-9749 MCI ENTERS NATIONAL WIRELESS MARKET THROUGH MAJOR PAGING INITIATIVES Agreements with SkyTel and PageNet to make wireless messaging services more available to MCI residential and business customers WASHINGTON, DC, January 6, 1995 -- Capitalizing on the continued growth of the wireless messaging market, MCI today announced agreements with the nation's leading paging companies, Paging Network, Inc. (PageNet) and SkyTel Corporation, to provide wireless messaging services nationwide to consumers and businesses under the MCI brand name. "MCI's goal is to provide, through one-stop shopping for consumers and businesses, an ever-broadening range of communication services under the MCI brand name," said Timothy F. Price, executive vice president and group president, MCI Communications Services. "Already, the wireless marketplace has attracted 20 million customers. In ten years, the market will skyrocket to nearly 90 million people and be valued at 40 billion to 50 billion dollars. Through alliances like these -- and many more on the way -- MCI expects to capture a significant share of that market." With this announcement, MCI is the first major long distance company to offer paging and wireless messaging services with the nation's largest wireless messaging companies. Paging Integrated with Friends & Family Service Leveraging its own successful marketing and branding strategies, MCI will provide local and nationwide messaging services to its millions of Friends & Family customers as part of the company's just-announced Friends & Family Connections program. Friends & Family Connections is the industry's first package of services designed to meet the total communications needs of today's teleconsumer by offering E-mail and residential 800 services -- and now paging -- to complement its long distance telephone services. Wireless Services Also Target Businesses Targeting the growing mobile work force, MCI will market paging and messaging services to businesses under the brand name, networkMCI Paging. The company will utilize its extensive national sales organization to market networkMCI Paging to businesses of all sizes. In addition to offering businesses paging along with long distance services, MCI will integrate paging with MCI's latest business communications software package, networkMCI BUSINESS. Users of networkMCI BUSINESS will be able to send and receive wireless messages via the package's e-mail component and also receive news bulletins on the pager from the package's news service, infoMCI. Business customers of networkMCI Paging will be able to customize the scope of their paging services to reflect their individual local or national requirements. "The two agreements have immediate and significant appeal to both mobile professionals and consumers who want the convenience of paging and messaging services, along with simple bill payment," added Price. "Customers reap the benefit of unparalleled customer service and responsiveness provided by MCI and the integrity of its network. In a sense, MCI is creating a new market, one where paging services combine with traditional telephone service to become part of everyday communications." The agreements extend already strong relationships between MCI and the two companies. MCI is already primary provider of 800 phone service for both companies in separate contracts. SkyTel, the pioneer in nationwide and international messaging, offers the broadest range of service options to meet the needs of business professionals who travel locally, regionally or nationwide. With the SkyTel network, customers receive text messages, electronic mail, fax and voice mail notification, and news and information updates wirelessly using paging and computing devices. The SkyTel network offers service to all major business corridors. SkyTel will also offer, in the second half of 1995, the first two-way paging and messaging services using its Destineer network. In 1994, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) awarded the first-ever Pioneer's Preference License solely to Destineer, SkyTel's sister subsidiary. Destineer also purchased two additional licenses at the narrowband PCS auctions. PageNet owns and operates the country's most extensive nationwide digital transmission network covering more than 90 percent of the U.S. population. The company was recently awarded three nationwide licenses at the narrowband PCS auctions conducted by the Federal Communications Commission. With more than 4.1 million subscribers, PageNet is the largest wireless messaging company in the United States. The company provides messaging services to the United States, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. It also markets local, regional and nationwide paging services as well as news and stock updates, voice mail, fax forwarding and wireless data transmission to palmtop computers. PageNet expects to begin testing the world's first wireless pocket answering machine, VoiceNow (R), in the second half of 1995. MCI, headquartered in Washington, D.C., has grown from its core long distance business to become the world's third largest carrier of international calling and a premier provider of data communications over the vast Internet computer network. With annual revenues of $12 billion, the company today provides a wide array of consumer and business long distance and local services, data and video communications, on-line information, electronic mail, network management services and communications software. ------------------------------ From: dreuben@netcom.com (CID Tech/INSG) Subject: FCC Proposes to Restrict Access to Cellular 911 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 02:31:09 PST I saw this post (which is somewhat edited for Telcom relevance) on the Telecommunications Roundtable Policy Forum (rountable@cni.org FOR POSTS!), and thought that the Digest may be interested in this recent FCC cellular proposal. My comments/responses to the Roundtable are included below the commented text. Doug ----------------------------- Recently, Jim Conran wrote: > The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) issued a Notice of Proposed > Rulemaking (Notice)(Docket Number 94-102) on October 19, 1994 in the > Matter of Revising the FCC Rules to ensure Compatibility with Enhanced 911 > Systems. [...] The proposed rulemaking requires wireless carriers to > provide this service only to "service initialized" users or users that > purchase their cellular phones from a wireless service provider. This is an innane idea, probably suggested by some of the more stingy cellular companies who want to squeeze every dime of airtime out of customers that they can. They basically don't want people getting a phone on their commission, dropping service after the minimum service period, and as a result gaining an essentially free (or close to it) phone which they can always call emergency services with "just in case" and not have to ever pay a monthly charge. This ruling is also contradictory (I suspect) with the FCCs "roaming operator" regs. which seem to require carriers to allow non-validated roamers to place credit card or calling card calls while roaming on a system. Typically, this is encountered when a roamer enters a non-home service area where there is no service on the same "side" (A/B) as the roamer's home serive provider, and thus he/she is forced to switch to the other side to place calls through the roaming operator. Since all calls are placed and paid for by use of a credit card or calling card, there is no need to validate a given user. (I've used the roaming operator on phones with totally invalid ESN/MIN combos, such as a MIN with 312-000-1212, and it worked fine.) Does this new FCC proposal take this into consideration at all? > This proposed arcane requirement is quite contradictory to the FCC's > ultimate objective of providing "broad accessibility" to 911 services. > Cellular users will have the expectation that when they use their phone to > contact 911 during an emergency, they will have immediate contact with the > operator. Consumers will not think to question the reliability of their > cellular phone or the wireless service providers, instead public > confidence on the 911 emergency system will be jeopardize. Indeed ... one of the main reasons I tell people NOT to lock out the "other side" from their phones is that if they ARE in a dead spot with, for example, the "A" carrier, the phone will seek the "B" carrier while the "A" carrier signal is too weak, and thus a call to 911 will then go through. If a phone IS locked to one's preferred "side", and they encounter a dead spot, it will at best take them some time to switch sides (if they know how to do so), and at worst be tragic if they are unable to report an emergency in time. > The Alliance for Public Access to 911 (Alliance) believes that in order > for the FCC's proposed rulemaking on the "broad availability of 911 and > enhanced 911 services" to be fully recognized, the FCC must require all > cellular switches to accept all 911 calls. Hmmm ..."require" all "switches"? Don't you mean "carriers". The switches can accept anything, including state police numbers, non-emergency numbers for disabled motorists (#77 in MD for example), etc. I think the regulations should: A) Mandate that ALL carriers allow access to 911/*911/etc. services and that they can NOT block access to these services for non-validated phones. They may, however, block access to phones on the STOLEN ESN list (not just ESN deny, you can get ESN deny for a lot of reasons other than true fraud, and you don't want to prevent people who are erroneously placed on the "denied" list [it happens a lot!] from making 911 calls while they wait for their carrier to fix the "deny" situation.) B) Allow local authorities (state DPUCs, etc.) to mandate further codes which as in "A", state that cellcos MUST allow free and unrestricted 911 access, and which manadate that they are not allowed to block such calls, except for STOLEN ESN phones. This would allow MD to keep #77, Mass to keep *MSP, etc. (You don't want to create a market for stolen phones: If 911 would work even from stolen phones where the actual physical equipment were stolen, people would have a reason to take them. By preventing 911 on stolen phones, you prevent this from ever becoming a problem, even if it would only be a limited problem anyhow.) > In addition, the FCC should require all cellular phones to be > equipped to access the strongest cellular base station signal when 911 > is called. Just 911? There are a lot of codes which shoulds be allowed, and in some cases 911 won't even work. How will this work in Canada? Won't the CRTC have to go along with this change in the AMPS format treats 911 calls? I don't think it's a good idea to mess with the AMPS protocol after the fact. Cell phones (well, the switches) normally seek the strongest signal path when available, so the only important thing here is to make switching from A to B easy (ie, have simple codes or mechanisms by which a customer can override the "A" only or "B" only settings.) What you MAY want to do is have the FCC require that user equipment manufacturers ALLOW 911 calls to go through from a given phone even if the SID for a given roaming system is blocked. Frequently, the "A" carrier in a given market will block the "B" carrier in the same market by blocking out the "B" carrier's SID code when the phone is being programmed. So, if a given user encountered a dead spot on the "A" side and tried to use the "B" side to place a call, the call would be denied by the PHONE, not the switch. As a result, no call is even SENT to the switch, and the cell customer is stuck without a way out unless he/she knows how to reprogram the phone on the spot (not likely for most customers.) > Finally, the FCC should make the 911 provision an issue as it > currently reconsiders cellular license renewal applications. The > issue of safety and security for all Americans is too important an > issue to be compromised. Indeed ... as it is they "overlook" a great deal too many things when reconsidering a cellular license; universal 911 access should NOT be one of them. Doug Reuben dreuben@netcom.com (203) 499 - 5221 Interpage Network Services Group E-Mail/Telnet Gateway to Faxes, Alpha and/or Numeric Pagers. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 17:54:56 +0000 From: KRISTOFF.BONNE@PIRESSYS.BELGACOM.RTTIPC.belgacom.be Subject: DQDB and SMDS Greetings to all, Can anybody explaine me what the difference and/or connection is between DQDB (Distributed-Queue dual-bus) and SMDS (Switched Multi-Megabit Data Service). Many thanks in advance, Kristoff Bonne, BelgaCom IS/TeLaNet netwerk planning en - beheer (C=BE;A=RTT;P=RTTIPC;S=Bonne;G=Kristoff) fax : +32 2 2025497 kristoff.bonne@belgacom.rttipc.belgacom.be voice mail : +32 70 615492 ------------------------------ From: paul@vorpal.digex.net (Paul D. Guthrie) Subject: Looking For X.25 Concentrator Date: 9 Jan 1995 12:37:06 GMT Organization: Vorpal Software I'm looking for a piece of equipment that I can best term as an X.25 concentrator. I have a need to connect a number (4 would be good) of X.25 host connections at low speeds (up to 56K) into a single X.25 host connection (again low speed - 56K). I can't use stat muxs, etc, because I need a single X.25 channel at the other end. I don't really term this as a switch because I will only be making calls from one direction, from the individual ports to the "multiplexed" port. In theory, this should be simple to do because there is no address resolution to be done (any inbound call goes out a single port). This is essentially to support a multidrop X.25 type setup for devices that do not support multidrop X.25. Has anyone seen something that can do the above? Price is important because I would buy quite a few. I've looked at low end switches, such as the Netrix series 100, but at $4K approx entry price, this is a little too pricy for the small amount of functionality I am looking for. Please email any suggestions. Paul Guthrie paul@vorpal.digex.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 06:26:20 -0800 From: LincMad@netcom.com (Linc Madison) Subject: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? In some of the recent discussions of the swarm of new area codes coming this year, I've seen notations that the wireless companies are challenging plans to move wireless services (cellular, beepers, etc.) into an overlay area code. The challenges are being made to the state regulators and/or to the FCC. My question is, on what grounds are they challenging the overlays? It seems to me that the tariffs have always been pretty clear that the telco does not in any way guarantee that you will be able to keep a given number or area code. It seems to me that the wireless companies are being very silly in fighting the new area codes. One of the places where I saw such a footnote on the area code list was Chicago, where 630 was supposed to enter service yesterday with wireless services from 708, but the wireless companies are fighting it. What is the status? Is 630 up and running or delayed? Linc Madison * Oakland, California * LincMad@Netcom.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: 630 was put in service over the weekend, although I don't think there are any subscribers in that 'area code' yet. The wireless people are fighting it because they say it will impose a hardship on just their customers who will *always* have to dial an eleven digit number to call elsewhere in what is essentially one large metro area. On the other hand the people in 312 or 708 will presumeably be able to dial seven digits for many/most of their calls, needing only to go eleven digits when calling the other code or *any* wireless number. So the wireless people are saying let's spread the grief out equally among everyone. If necessary, divide northern Illinois in three parts (in place of the present two) and have a more or less equal distribution of 312/708/630 (and of course bits of 815, but not many) among both land line and wireless customers. The last report I recieved early Monday was that Ameritech has agreed to put 'some of' the new subscribers 'beginning next year sometime' in 708 into 630. They have not said what communities will be affected. They did say all existing 708 subscribers would be grandfathered 'if they wanted it' in 708. It will probably be one of those deals where if you move then you lose your grandfather status and wind up in 630. I can't really say for sure. No one has contacted me about changing the 708 number on my pager, and the local Radio Shack manager says no one at the pager or cellular offices he works with have told him very much about giving out 630 numbers ... yet here it is the day after it has officially been started. The local RS guy does not sell that many pagers or cell phones so that may be why. He said they told him next time he calls in to get a new subscriber turned on they will 'probably' give him a 630 number. My feeling is you won't see much activity out of 630 for several months to a year. I tried a few known cellular exchanges at random just now with 630 as the area code; every single one was intercepted 'not in service'. However 630-555-1212 *is* working; at least I *think* I reached it as dialed ... she told me she was in downtown Chicago (312)! It could be the local central office plucked it away when it saw the 630-555 and simply handed me to local directory assistance. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #17 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa24168; 10 Jan 95 6:57 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA21479; Tue, 10 Jan 95 02:23:10 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA21472; Tue, 10 Jan 95 02:23:07 CST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 02:23:07 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501100823.AA21472@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #18 TELECOM Digest Tue, 10 Jan 95 02:23:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 18 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson GSM Cellular Operators List (Robert Lindh) Looking For a CE3 Interface (34 MB/s Euro Std) (Gianni Paglia) Used Phone Systems and Parts - Want to Buy (David M. Russell) 800 Numbers and Caller ID? (Glenn Foote) Standard Voice Recording/Sheila Andersen? (dan@decode.com) Source Code For Audio-Voice Modem Programming? (dan@decode.com) First NNX Area Code Officially in Service is 630? (Carl Moore) Looking for C7 Information (seen@ripco.com) Some Questions About the LDDS Calling Card (Yeechang Lee) Cellular Phone Technology (Stan Brown) Correction: Communications FTP Server in Australia (Iaen Cordell) Congresspersons Interested in Telemarketing Policy? (Anthony E. Siegman) Wanted: Info on Fax/Modem Hookup For Motorola Lazer Cell Phone (M Chapman) Video Servers (Alwin Mulder) Is TeleScript Already Available? (Paul Boots) Looking For Areacode Program (Al Cohan) 911 Providers: Watch For 912 Calls (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Rick Duggan) Re: Finland Data Transmission (Kimmo Ketolainen) Re: MANs in USA (Chuck Poole) Multiple ESN's per NAM (Chris J. Cartwright) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: etxlndh@eos99.ericsson.se (Robert Lindh) Subject: GSM Cellular Operators List Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 15:11:07 GMT Australia Optus Vodafon Belgium Belgacom Denmark Tele Danmark Sonofon Estonia EMT Finland Telecom Radiolinja France Telecom SFR Germany D1, DeTeMobil D2, Mannesmann G Britain Cellnet Vodafon Greece Panafon STET Holland Telekom Hong Kong Smartone Hungary Pannon Westel Iceland Telekom Ireland Telecom Italy SIP Luxemburg Telekom Norway Tele-Mobil Netcom Portugal TMN Telecel South Africa MTN Vodacom Sweden Comviq Europolitan Telia Switzerland Telekom Turkey Turkcell Telsim ------------------------------ From: paglia@mln.mts (gianni.paglia) Subject: Looking For a CE3 Interface (34 MB/s Euro Std) Date: 9 Jan 1995 13:59:17 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Reply-To: paglia@mln.mts (gianni.paglia) Hello, I'm looking for a Channelized E3 interface (34 Mb/s European standard) for PCI, ISA or VME bus. The interface board I need should have a 34 Mb/s E3 output, with multiplexed E1 channels (@ 2.0Mb/s) individually accessible from the board driver. I would like to know if an interface of this sort is commercially available. Thanks a lot for your info. Gianni Paglia Digital Equipment SPA - Milano (Italy) E-mail: gianni.paglia@mln.mts.dec.com ------------------------------ From: itelecom@bilbo.pic.net (David M. Russell) Subject: Used Phone Systems and Parts - Want to Buy Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:42:47 GMT Organization: Integrity Telecommunications I buy used phone systems and parts. Please fax inventory to 214-357-7485. My voice number is 214-357-7484 if you need assistance. ------------------------------ From: glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Glenn Foote) Subject: 800 Numbers and Caller ID Date: 9 Jan 1995 13:44:24 -0500 Organization: The Greater Columbus Freenet Can someone explain IF, not why, full telephone numbers of people calling 800 numbers are shown (either on the bill, or as part of the call) to those who OWN the 800 numbers? Many thanks, Glenn L Foote ...... glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The answer is yes. People who have 800 numbers receive the ANI -- not the Caller-ID, although the resulting data output is almost always the same -- of the calling party, regardless of whether or not the calling party blocks their ID. Either they get it in real time (that is, as the call is in progress) or on a delayed basis with their monthly billing. The reason for this is the company or person paying for the call has a right to know what they are being required to pay for. Do not have privacy expectations when dialing an 800 number. PAT] ------------------------------ Subject: Standard Voice Recording/Sheila Andersen? From: System Operator Date: Mon, 09 Jan 95 12:49:20 EST Organization: Decode Systems Stephen Tihor writes: > I am trying to find in the archives the reference to the woman who did > various of the standard voice recordings. I recall reading the > article some time back but am having little luck finding it in the > archives. Can anyone supply a pointer. The name "Shiela Andersen" > probably misspelled was suggest to me by someone but I want ot check > the archives for the Straight Dope. :) The January/February 1995 issue of _Health_ magazine has an article beginning on page 38 entitled "What Your Voice Says About You." In it, the author describes meeting Joan Kenley, the telephone lady, who "is the digitized operator of directory assistance in most cities and towns from Spokane to Savannah." She is also the voice that instructs "The number you have dialed is not in service. Please check the number and try again." She is 53 years old and lives near Oakland, California. system@decode.com (System Operator) Cryptography, Security, Privacy BBS +1 410 730 6734 Data/FAX ------------------------------ Subject: Source Code For Audio-Voice Modem Programming? From: System Operator Date: Mon, 09 Jan 95 13:02:27 EST Organization: Decode Systems Hello, I'm looking for any sample or public domain source code used to control an audio-voice (AT+FCLASS 8) modem used in any kind of interactive application. Any pointers to FTP sites, etc, would be appreciated. Dan dan@decode.com system@decode.com (System Operator) Cryptography, Security, Privacy BBS +1 410 730 6734 Data/FAX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:53:47 EST From: Carl Moore Subject: First NNX Area Code Officially in Service is 630? Mail to the digest indicates that area 630 (an overlay on 312 and 708, at least for now) is the first NNX area code to go into service. 334 in Alabama and 360 in Washington state are to kick in Jan. 15. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, but as noted yesterday in the Digest, don't expect a lot of activity in that code for a few months. It was to be an overlay only for wireless users, but now the wireless carriers are fighting with Ameritech to get 630 distributed equally over the entire 312/708 region, with wireline users included. Ameritech says 630 will 'eventually include some wireline users' in the next year or so. No one knows for certain yet just what all will be included. PAT] ------------------------------ From: seen@ripco.com (seen) Subject: Looking For C7 Information Organization: Ripco BBS, Free Trial account (312) 665-0065 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 21:15:52 GMT I am looking for any information on CCITT #7. If you have any tutorials or texts, please let me know! seen@ripco.com ------------------------------ From: ycl6@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (Yeechang Lee) Subject: Some Questions About the LDDS Calling Card Date: 9 Jan 1995 23:27:04 GMT Organization: Trilateral Commission, Columbia University student chapter Reply-To: Yeechang Lee Well, I got the fabled LDDS calling card in the mail. You know, the one its salesmen annoy people in every newsgroup with ads about? It _is_ supposed to have much better rates than my AT&T or Sprint cards, and I guess I'll find out as soon as I need to use it. Anyway, a few questions: a) All I got in my envelope was the card (in a paper carrier). No brochure w/rates or anything. I sorta know the rates but would have liked a paper reference. Was there something missing? b) My card has the logo of "American Travel Network" on the upper-right-hand side. I also hear "Metromedia" associated with the LDDS name, but it doesn't appear on the card. Who's ATN, are there different versions of the card, and if so are there different rates? Anyway, thanks! Yeechang Lee (ycl6@columbia.edu)|Nevada Las Vegas Mission Jul'92-'94 Columbia University/New York City|Celestial Kingdom through Taco Bell ------------------------------ From: stanb@netcom.com (Stan Brown) Subject: Cellular Phone Technology Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 17:02:01 GMT Having recently acquired a cellular phone, I suddenly find myself curious about how the systems operate. Could someone point me to a good reference on the operation of cellular systems? I am particularly interested in the technical side (not economics) of roaming, and follow me. Thanks, Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. ------------------------------ From: iaenc@sydney.DIALix.oz.au (Iaen Cordell) Subject: Correction: Communications FTP Server in Australia Date: 10 Jan 1995 13:18:36 +1100 Organization: DIALix Services, Sydney, Australia. Please note: The FTP address in Australia is: happy.dotc.gov.au -- not happy.doc.gov.au. ^^^^ ^^^ iaen cordell [bad typing can create lots of e-mail] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 20:08:12 PST From: Anthony E. Siegman Subject: Congresspersons Interested in Telemarketing Policy? Are there any members of the current Congress who are particularly concerned about telemarketing policy (in particular policies or legislation for controlling its use)? If you email responses to siegman@ee.stanford.edu I'll summarize. Thanks much. ------------------------------ From: Mike Chapman Subject: Wanted: Info on Fax/Modem Hookup For Motorola Lazer Cell Phone Organization: University of Virginia Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 16:59:49 GMT I got a Motorola Lazer pocket cell phone hoping to use it with my notebook, but when I asked how much the device to do this costs, I was very shocked to find that it was almost $300!! Is this price ridiculous? Is there a cheaper place to get the Motorola device? Are there any other options? Thanks! mike@chimera.med.virginia.edu mike%doxy@virginia.edu ------------------------------ From: alwin@ec.ele.tue.nl (Alwin Mulder) Subject: Video Servers Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:47:30 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology Hello, I am a graduation student at the University of Technology at Eindhoven, and I am working on a VOD project. I was wondering if anybody could tell me where I could find some information on video-server-systems. Are there any specific newsgroups and/or WWW-pages? Thanks in advance, Alwin Mulder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 12:42:22 +0100 From: paul@gig.nl (Paul Boots) Subject: Is TeleScript Already Available? Hi all, Would there be anybody who can tell me if TeleScript is allready available. I heard and read a lot about it and I would love to get hands-on experience. So far all my inquiries at several companies produced no answer. Thanks, Paul Boots (paul@gig.nl) ------------------------------ From: ac554@lafn.org (Al Cohan) Subject: Looking for Areacode Program Reply-To: ac554@lafn.org (Al Cohan) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:15:01 GMT I used to have an areacode/zipcode/V&H/Lat.& Lon. lookup program. Now, I can neither find it or remember where I got it. It was a massive 700K+ program in .zip format. If anyone can be of assistance, I would surely appreciate it. Thank you, Al ------------------------------ From: sewilco@fieldday.mn.org (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Subject: 911 Providers: Watch For 912 Calls Date: 9 Jan 1995 22:14:43 -0600 Organization: FieldDay The FOX TV show "The Simpsons" tonight had a joke where the punch line was that for better service, call the secret emergency number 912. As has been reported before, some older switches will connect to 911 when "91x" is dialed. Those readers who are involved in operating 911 centers might like to know this explanation if you notice a spike in hangup and other no-service calls. Scot E. Wilcoxon sewilco@fieldday.mn.org +1 612 936 0118 ------------------------------ From: duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan) Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 9 Jan 1995 18:25:07 -0500 Organization: College of Computing In article , sohl,william h wrote: > In article , Matthew P. Downs > wrote: >> Unless you use ISDN, you are using robbed-bit signalling between your >> premise and the Central Office. Unless like a previous poster had >> stated, the robbed bits only become important during call set-up and >> tear-down. Ie. going on-hook and off-hook. Otherwise the robbed bits >> will be 1's. In a sense, the robbed bits are only important during call set-up and tear-down. However, since (a) we don't know when set-up/tear-down occurs and (b) we don't have control over where our PCM data goes, we can't use those bits at all. Which gets back to why it's called robbed-bit signaling in the first place. Their presence still affects the bandwidth that can be obtained. > If we are only talking about analog modems then the premise to Central > Office is probably not a DS0 channel, but rather a two wire circuit ... > and if the premise to the central office is an analog two wire circuit, > then there is NO bit-robbing from the premise to the Central Office. I disagree. Even assuming analog modems, the presence of a digital loop carrier in the path between the subscriber and the CO will likely mandate the use of robbed bit signaling. TR57 and TR08 both specify robbed bit signaling formats, and I'm pretty sure both types of interfaces are still in use today. I think even TR303 uses RBS for call progression. > It is, therefore, quite possible with today's trunking network to have > an end-to-end analog phone call (both ends are two wire, conventional > POTS lines) and the entire interoffice trunking for the call consisting > of 64 clear trunking (i.e. no robbed-bit signaling trunking at all). > As the network continues to evolve, that will be more and more the > likely connection until, at some future time, all robbed-bit trunking > is gone. I don't think we're necessarily talking about RBS on the trunking, but on the subscriber line from the CO to the remote digital terminal. I think, in fact, that an RDT is a lot more likely these days than a pure analog connection from premises to CO. I do agree with you that we are on the way to 64 clear all the way around. Rick Duggan - duggan@cc.gatech.edu -or- rduggan@bnr.ca Member of Scientific Staff at BNR OPC Software Development ------------------------------ From: Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen) Subject: Re: Finland Data Transmission Organization: Turun yliopisto - University of Turku, Turku, Finland Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 23:32:58 GMT jackp@telecomm.admin.ogi.edu (Jack Pestaner) wrote: > We have been communicating to a site in Finland with autoranging 14.4k > modems. On a good day we can run at 9600, but typically at 2400. I'd suggest using the Internet for doing file transfer. Internet connections are available in most cities in Finland by Telecom Finland and the co-operating local companies of Telegroup of Finland. Kimmo Ketolainen University of Turku home +358 21 237 8227 Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi shoe +358 40 500 2957 FIN-20540 Turku work +358 21 262 1496 ------------------------------ From: inrworks@gate.net (Chuck Poole) Subject: Re: MANs in USA Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:33:23 Organization: Voiceware Systems, Inc. > I need some help in getting info about Metropolitan Area Networks > in USA. The questions are: > 1. What is the physical structure of MANs (fiber, coax)? They are always constructed of fiber. > 2. If fiber what is the protocol (fddi, atm)? Both of these protocols are used, many times on the same network. These are both emerging standards (in the scheme of things). [From Newton's Telecom Dictionary (ISBN 0-936648-47-3) 216-691-8215 ] "FDDI is a 100 Mbps fiber optic LAN. It is an ANSI standard. It uses counter rotating token ring topology." This is a topology that is primarily used to connect servers together (data only). "... FDDI-II allows portions of the 100Mbps bandwith to carry low delay, constant bit rate, isochronous data like 64Kbps telephone channels." This would allow for voice/video applications. "ATM. Very high speed telecom transmission technology. ATM is a high bandwidth, low delay, packet-like switching and multiplexing technique." .. "The CCITT has selected ATM as the future broadband network..." I could not find specs on the actual speed, but it would not appear to matter as ATM divides its' data into 53 bye "cells" and throws them onto the pipe (whatever the speed it may be). Ofcourse, you could run into a problem trying to run too much video/voice/data if your pipe is not big enough. > 3. Who is the main investor (banks)? Governments, Commercial fiber owners (like MFS, AT&T, SPRINT), Joint Ventures, etc. Banks would usually just be a large customer. > 4. Does banks use MAN for data transmission? Banks use different means to transmit different data. There are established packet switched data networks for wire transfers. Usually point to point data circuits are used between branches. > 5. What services are provided, and which are most popular? In addition to all voice/data services, the sky's the limit! Video, Interactive services, and many more. Hope this helps, Chuck Poole Voiceware Systems, Inc. 407-655-1770 X14 ------------------------------ From: dsc3cjc@imc220.med.navy.mil (Chris J. Cartwright - ELF) Subject: Multiple ESN's per NAM Organization: National Naval Medical Center Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:01:57 GMT On my way home last night I called Cell One from my carphone about a minor service problem that I wanted to clear up. While on hold for ten minutes ( :(, at least the air time was free) I was pitched an ad for FlexPhone. It sounded like they were talking about multiple ESN's per NAM and since I also have a hand held it was a good match for what I wanted the phones to do since I got them two years ago. Wasting no time I stopped at the Cell One office before I got home. The ad was true! Cell One in Maryland is now offering up to three ESN's per NAM. The details are: CellularONE (SID 00013/0000D, 301-742-XXXX) - Two ESN's on one NAM $17.95/mo + reg. service price; - Three ESN's on one NAM 29.95/mo + reg. service price; - Activation within a minimum of 48 hours (yet to be seen); - Only the "primary" ESN can roam (??); - All calls are billed to a single number and no determination is made as to which phone placed the call. The above comes from the one page sheet I filled out at the office. It contains very little information over what you supply, ESN, MIN, Name, etc. and none of the *legal speak* I would expect on the back. What I found out by talking to the rep is that I was the first in their office to sign up and that if both phones are on at the same time whichever one rings is the one that gets the call (no kidding!). I find this more than interesting since last week I talked with BAM about switching both of these phones and getting a single number for both. The tech was very good about telling me what I *could* ;) do to accomplish this but the BAM party line is that two ESN's per NAM is forbidden in the Atlantic corridor (DC to Boston) because of the concerns about fraud. My FlexPhone service won't be enabled until Monday so I'll have to wait and see how it works before I give any kind of report. I do a fair amount of interstate traveling so I should have an answer on the roam for secondary ESN's in short order. Reading through back issues I've seen this mentioned from time to time as a technical discussion but this is the first time I've seen it available as a service. Chris Cartwright, Technical Engineer E-Mail dsc3cjc@imc220.med.navy.mil C-Serve 71614,2441 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Having two or more phones on the same number *used to be* a technical problem for carriers. If anyone else over on the east coast tries out this new arrangement and wishes to report on it to the Digest, I'm sure others will appreciate your report. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #18 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa24580; 10 Jan 95 8:10 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22106; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:42:13 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22098; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:42:09 CST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:42:09 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501100942.AA22098@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #19 TELECOM Digest Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:42:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 19 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Mike J. Sutter) Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Coast Guard Communications) Re: Is There a Telecom Group in Chicago? (Bernard Cerier) Re: Is There a Telecom Group in Chicago? (Randall Hayes) Re: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd (Steve Cogorno) Re: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd (reb@xyzzy.com) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Christopher Zguris) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (John Higdon) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Tony Pelliccio) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Bennett Z. Kobb) Re: GSM in Canada? (Rupert Baines) Re: GSM in Canada? (John Leske) Re: Phone Card Reader Wanted (Kimmo Ketolainen) Re: Britain-Japan Fiber Cable (Kimmo Ketolainen) Re: Computer Caller-ID (Maurice Dykes) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mjsutter@aol.com (Mjsutter) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Date: 9 Jan 1995 21:50:33 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: mjsutter@aol.com (Mjsutter) Jim Conran writes: > In addition, the FCC should require all cellular phones to be > equipped to access the strongest cellular base station signal when 911 > is called. Finally, the FCC should make the 911 provision an issue as > it currently reconsiders cellular license renewal applications. This is a good idea. However, it could be at odds with another good idea which is that the cell ID that the caller is using be passed through the cell switch to the tandem so tha the 911 database can use the cell ID as an approximate location of the caller. In metro areas the size of the cell would be very small indeed. Less that a year ago a life would have most likely been saved in Rochester N.Y. if this capability had been available. Cheers, mike ------------------------------ From: gttm@cais2.cais.com (USCG TELECOMMS) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:56:15 GMT Organization: U.S. Coast Guard I believe the closing date for comments in this FCC proceding is January 9th. The FCC proceding highlights some serious problems with 911 access from wireless systems, particularly satellite systems due to be available shortly. Coast Guard comments on this FCC proceding are available by Internet also, through the Fedworld gateway: "telnet fedworld.gov", log on, and enter "udd54" at the first menu. Once on the CG NIS computer (you have to log onto this also), find the file 911.TXT under Maritime Communications, Coast Guard Communications. Try downloading using KERMIT. (We plan to be up on WWW/gopher/ftp etc by this summer, by the way) JoeH COAST GUARD COMMUNICATIONS Telephone: (202) 267-2860 U.S. Coast Guard (G-TTM) Fax: (202) 267-4106 Washington DC 20593 Internet: CGComms/g-t07@cgsmtp.comdt.uscg.mil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 12:56:14 -0500 From: BERNARD.CERIER@gte.sprint.com Subject: Re: Is There a Telecom Group in Chicago? Pat, In article logicarsch@aol.com asks about a telecommunications association in the Chicago area that has meetings, seminars and get-togethers, a little newsletter, etc. etc. for a hundred or two bucks a year. CICA, Inc. is the oldest organization in the US. It predates the ICA. They have a monthly newsletter, meet monthly (usually at Marshall Fields downtown) and have educational seminars. Dues are less that $50. The Executive Secretary is: Robert C. Hagglund 1905 W. Leland Avenue Chicago, IL 60601 312-271-7088 Fax 312-275-1002 President Patti Wolff Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago 230 S. laSalle Street Chicago, IL 60604 312-322-8200 Fax 312-322-5959 Through the newsletters you can be put in touch with specialized user groups: Midwest ROLM Users Group, Midwest Meridian SL1 Users Association, Centigram Voice Mail Users Association, etc. Bernie Cerier 15520 Mill Creek Blvd. H-103 Mill Creek, WA 98012 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks very much for passing this on. PAT] ------------------------------ From: HayesR@uihc-telecomm-po.htc.uiowa.edu Date: 9 Jan 95 16:35 CST Subject: Re: Is There a Telecom Group in Chicago? > I'm looking for a group (in Chicago) that has meetings, seminars, and get- > togethers, a little newsletter..... The Chicago Industrial Communications Association ia a non-profit organization which promotes the exchange of ideas and information among telecom professionals. They are a part of the Midwestern Telecommunications Conference, which is a group of 13 midwestern telecom organizations (I belong to ITUG -- the Iowa Telecom User Group). For information, contact Steve Willuweit at 708-291-2106 or John Gacek at 312-663-3366. Randy Hayes randal-hayes@uiowa.edu ------------------------------ From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno) Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 20:29:56 PST Mark Robert Smith said: > LEADING CELLULAR CARRIERS JOIN FORCES TO PROTECT CUSTOMERS > FROM BECOMING PHONE FRAUD VICTIMS > The new effort combines a Personal Identification Number (PIN) code > system recently pioneered by NYNEX Mobile Communications in New York > City with a new Fraud Protection Zone technique developed by Bell > Atlantic Mobile. What happened to that fraud protection (was it made by TRW?) device that examined the radio signal from the cell phone? Last I heard, it was going to revolutionize the cellular industry and eliminate fraud. Steve cogorno@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:30:13 EST From: reb@xyzzy.com (Phydeaux) Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd This evening I was in the Bell Atlantic store in Union, NJ and I overheard another customer asking about the PIN stuff. He wanted to know whether or not he would need a PIN. The sales person told him that that was "Only for customers whose phones have been cloned." They would NOT assign a PIN unless you'd been cloned, because customers who had already been cloned were "most at risk." This seemed to me to be a completely screwed up way of handling the situation. I wonder if the sales person was quoting the old rules or the new rules ... reb reb@xyzzy.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Or maybe you have to wonder if the sales person knew what the rules were at all ... :) PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 19:35 EST From: Christopher Zguris <0004854540@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges gws@gwssun.cb.att.com (Gary Sanders) writes: > You have been listening to to many cell phone sales guys. First, many > scanners don't need to be modified (although new ones may) to listen to > cell phones. They come out of the box with cellular. As for snippets I > would beg to differ, I know some one who is an active cell listner > (-:)) and depending on your local cell configuration you will hear > most of all phone calls that are placed. "my friend" listened to > someone trying to explain how secure a cell phone is becuase its > allways changing freq. Was interesting considering the entire call > was 15 minutes long and never changed cells/freq. What recent scanners come with cellular enabled? _Recent_ equipment, that is. Regarding snippets, I'm sure it _does_ depend on the layout of the cells, but it _also_ depends on how fast the cellular phone is moving. If it is moving fast -- as opposed to stationary -- it will break up and move on to another cell/freq. If "your friend" is located in a major suburban area, he probably won't pick up many complete calls that last more than a minute or two. You've brought up _one_ instance of hearing an entire cell phone call. If that 15 minute call is the best "your friend" has heard -- especially when you consider some people talk on the phone for 30 or more minutes (hours on a "regular" phone) -- I'd say that kinda proves my point! Christopher Zguris czguris@mcimail.com (just another happy MCI customer) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:47:02 -0800 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are wrong on a couple things, however > that is because of confusion over contradictory laws. Aside from what > the Electronic Commuications Privacy Act says, the Federal Communications > Commission addresses the question of radios which have been modified. > Illegal modification (i.e. modification by an unlicensed person) voids > your FCC authority to operate the radio. Furthermore, no *licensed* > person is going to make illegal modifications to a radio and risk having > such handiwork be traced back to his bench, at the possible risk of his > loss of his license. But this only applies to radios manufactured and offered for sale to the public and does NOT cover modifications made by an individual for his own use, or use by another. In fact, there is no prohibition of any kind with regard to the construction of a radio from scratch by an individual. Patrick, I know you are old enough to have possibly built the radios described in the various scouting handbooks. There was no requirement that one build the radio exactly as described, nor was there any requirement to have the completed device "certified" in any way. There has been no change in the basic rules in this regard since then that I am aware of. Transmitters are another story. FCC rules require that all transmitters be maintained and adjusted by a properly licensed technician. As the holder of such licenses since the 1960's, I am completely unaware of any grades of license requirement to service any receive-only equipment. Furthermore, I am unaware of any "FCC authority" required to operate any receive-only equipment. As scanners are incapable of transmission (the local oscillator incidental radiation notwithstanding), their possession, modification, or use are of absolutely no concern to the FCC. Using radio receivers in the commission of crimes is, of course, another matter. But after consulting the volumes of rules that I have handy, I can find no provision, nor specification of license grade, involved with maintenance, repair, modification, or adjustment of a radio receiver. What the Feds tell Radio Shack that it may or may not do is Radio Shack's problem and does not extend to you and me. I have probably a half-dozen scanners and service radios capable of receiving the cellular band. Two of them have that capability because I gave it to them. I don't think my FCC license is in any jeapardy. If I wanted to buy another, I would go to Japan and pick one up, or have a friend simply bring one with him on his return. Customs does not seize them -- they only want to know what they cost! Note that I am NOT claiming that I listen to cellular transmissions (that would be illegal). My only claim is that I legally possess radios capable of such activity and will probably continue to do so in perpetuity. John Higdon | P.O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX: john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407 ------------------------------ From: Tony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 10 Jan 1995 03:49:50 GMT Organization: Brown University - Providence, RI USA > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't know where you shop, but all the > Radio Shack units make a point of cutting out the cellular frequencies. > So do quite a few others, and they have for a few years now. PAT] Actually the AOR-2500 comes through with the cell band intact. Or at least it did until the FCC attempted to clamp down on it. The nice thing is the AOR-2500 is considered a communications receiver and not a scanner and last I heard the whole thing was still tied up in hearings. Of course if you really want to follow a cell call just get a DDI and hook it up to your PC. The interesting thing is that the company that sells the DDI will only release software with ESN capability to law enforcement people. Makes you wonder doesn't it? Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR, VE ARRL/W5YI Tel. (401) 863-1880 Box 1908, Providence, RI 02912 Fax. (401) 863-2269 ------------------------------ From: bkobb@newsignals.com (Bennett Z. Kobb) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Organization: New Signals Press Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 13:23:35 GMT The amendment to include cordless came in with the Digital Telephony Bill, I believe. EFF did not object to the amendment but questioned its propriety without public dialogue on the subject. It may not be settled that random scanning, even of cellular spectrum, violates the ECPA due to the high standard of culpability placed in the law in the late stages. An excellent reference and opinion paper on this is "Don't Touch That Dial: Radio Listening Under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986," by Fred Jay Meyer, in the New York University Law Review, V63 N2, May 1988. I'm reminded of Rep. Carlos Moorhead's assurances that "ECPA is not intended to penalize someone who just happens upon the frequency." Bennett Kobb bkobb@newsignals.com Editor and publisher Spectrum Guide ------------------------------ From: Rupes@voyager.cris.com (Rupes) Subject: Re: GSM in Canada? Date: 10 Jan 1995 01:49:27 -0500 Organization: Concentric Research Corporation Reon_Can@mindlink.bc.ca (D. Matte) writes: > I have been doing some initial research on the development of the PCS > market in Canada. Recently some of the players that have received > licenses to test 1.9GHz systems have been touting GSM as the way to go > (Telezone & Microcell 1-2-1). If GSM is implemented would it mean > that users would not be able to make use of their terminals in the > U.S. as GSM is not likely to be adopted by the U.S. on a large scale? > It would seem to me that having a system that is compatible with our > largest trading partner would make for a more attractive service > offering. You are right -- being able to use the same system as the US would be great. The only problem is that the US is unlikely to the the same system as the US ... For the PCS band (1.9GHz) there are seven 'standards' in the running. So, in principle, Canada might adaopt one -- and then be able to operate in only one in seven US areas ... It won't be quite that bad, as each area will have several operators (with different standards?), and only a few standards will be adopted, but ... To answer your original post, up-banded GSM (aka PCS1900) is one of the stronger contenders for PCS in the US, probably second in popularity to the IS95 (Qualcomm CDMA) variant. The former has existing market, safe technology and volume advantages, the latter is more technologically elegant and potentially cheaper. (A friend describes tham as PC vs Mac ...) Rupert Baines ------------------------------ From: johnl@ctin.adelaide.edu.au (John Leske) Subject: Re: GSM in Canada? Date: 10 Jan 1995 01:47:11 GMT Organization: Centre for Telecommunications Information Networking Reply-To: johnl@ctin.adelaide.edu.au In article 14@eecs.nwu.edu, Reon_Can@mindlink.bc.ca (D. Matte) writes: > I have been doing some initial research on the development of the PCS > market in Canada. [snip] > If GSM is implemented would it mean that users would not be able to > make use of their terminals in the U.S. as GSM is not likely to be > adopted by the U.S. on a large scale? It would seem to me that having > a system that is compatible with our largest trading partner would > make for a more attractive service offering. Hi Dan, A few comments on your concerns regarding GSM. Strictly speaking GSM operates in the 800MHz band. There is a varient called DCS1800, (which curiously enough operates in the 1800MHz band) which is used as a PCS system in the UK (Mercury 1to1, and Orange). Basically the only difference is the operating frequency, with all that that implies about cell size, transmission characteristics etc. GSM handsets do not work with DCS1800 or vice-versa. Since in the USA and Canada, 1.9GHz is the band available for PCS, carriers are looking at a varient of GSM in this frequency. There are carriers in both the USA and Canada considering this as a solution for PCS. One major attraction of doing this is that all the network details (protocols, charging, roaming, loading etc) have already been sorted out in GSM. The manufacturers can adjust their equipment to the new frequency and have an entire stable network up in months. My current reading of news reports seem to indicate that a number of different PCS systems will be installed, each in different areas depending on who bought the license. SO there will be CDMA, TDMA and other systems. None of these handsets will work with the AMPS network, nor with each other (in the first instance anyway). John Leske Research Engineer Centre for Telecommunications Information Networking University of Adelaide ------------------------------ From: Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen) Subject: Re: Phone Card Reader Wanted Organization: Turun yliopisto - University of Turku, Turku, Finland Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 23:40:27 GMT Keith Jason Uber <942576@edna.cc.swin.edu.au> wrote: > 09I am looking for an article on building a Phone Card Reader > that connects to a pc. I saw it two or three days ago when browsing > gopher or WWW (I can't remember) and thought "That's cool ... but > Australia doesn't use Smart-cards for their phones". > The very next day, I met a German exchange student who gave me > a German phonecard! Subsequently I've spent about four hours searching > through veronica, www etc with no luck. The phonecard pages can be found with Lycos by entering the keyword "phonecard". The article in question is behind . The author of this article is currently serving a year long sentence :) in the French Army, and he'll be back on the net later this year. > Any help or direction would be great ... I intend to modify it > to use it as an electronic key to start my car! Sorry Keith, but the chip in question is not rewritable, you can only decrease its value (counter). In fact, none of the conventional chips in phonecards are reusable. Kimmo Ketolainen University of Turku home +358 21 237 8227 Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi shoe +358 40 500 2957 work +358 21 262 1496 ------------------------------ From: Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen) Subject: Re: Britain-Japan Fiber Cable Organization: Turun yliopisto - University of Turku, Turku, Finland Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 23:50:34 GMT In writchie@gate.net wrote: > An international circuit is two "half circuits" with the price at > each end completely controlled by the carriers at each end, one or > both of which is normally a monopoly PTT. Only US/Canada and US/UK > circuits are priced at anything even reasonably related to cost. Don't forget Finland -- three international carriers with quite competitive charges. It may sound weird, but the telecomm market in the country is already less monopolized than that of the US. Kimmo Ketolainen University of Turku home +358 21 237 8227 Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi shoe +358 40 500 2957 work +358 21 262 1496 ------------------------------ From: mhdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Maurice Dykes) Subject: Re: Computer Caller-ID Organization: Thinkage Ltd. Guest Account Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 01:37:04 GMT > Does anyone know of a software program that enables you to have your > computer identify caller's phone numbers? I saw a movie called Brainscan > that had a computer, using caller id, identify the caller and tell the > person in an "igor" voice, which I perticularly liked, that "Bobby is > calling master". The idea was really interesting to me and I would like > to get something like it. There is a shareware app called IdentaFone version 1.6 on ftp.halcyon.com in local/identafone. It does not support sound. The verbage that's in the readme states: Overview: IdentaFone, in conjunction with Caller ID/Call Display service from your phone company, will log incoming calls and perform database lookups to place complete caller information at your fingertips before the phone has rang twice. You can also configure it to show a large barker screen that can be seen across the room or you can just have the icon display the calling number. Includes a Speed Dialer for 32 of your favourite numbers, dialer from the database or return call dialer in log window. You can launch a program or Windows macro when a designated number calls. *NEW* if you have a numeric pager IdentaFone will send the calling party's number to your pager. Maurice Dykes mhdykes@thinkage.on.ca mhdykes@thinkage.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #19 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa25097; 10 Jan 95 9:21 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22710; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:29:11 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22702; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:29:08 CST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:29:08 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501101029.AA22702@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #20 TELECOM Digest Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:29:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 20 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Tim Gorman) Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Wally Ritchie) Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T (Sam Spens Clason) Re: ISDN Over Wireless (John Lundgren) Re: Erlang Capacity (Phil Ritter) Re: Need an EBCDIC Spec - ebcdic.rq [1/1] (John O'Keefe) Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Sprint and Calls Within Your Service Area (Al Cohan) Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code (Mark Fraser) Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code (Joe George) Re: More CO Codes For Each NPA - Any Telcos Take Advantage? (David Leibold) Re: Flat Rate Cellular Phone Service (jhupf@nando.net) Re: MANs in USA (Fred R. Goldstein) Re: Cellular NAM and ESN (Eric Tholome) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 20:55:49 -0500 From: Tim Gorman Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? whs70@cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) writes in TELECOM Digest V15 #11: > In article , wrote: >> In , naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber) >> writes: >>> What kind of noise/distortion does American-style bit-robbing cause to >>> voice band signals transmitted through PCM channels? >> In the U.S., most intermachine trunks are common channel direct >> connections so only the robbed bit at each end of the IC/EC connection >> introduces the robbed bit (as well as ny non CCS systems in the EC). > Today, most end-to-end voice connections do not include any trunking > which uses robbed bit signalling. The great majority of local > trunking, especially in metro areas, has all been converted to CCS. > One way to determine the probability of what type of local trunking is > in your area is if caller ID is available. If you can have caller ID, > then the local trunking is using CCS and thus no robbed bit signaling > is involved at that end of any connection. This is probably a little misleading. While the robbed bit signaling was for use in per-trunk signaling for passing supervision information, merely converting to SS7 signaling (i.e. making caller id available) doesn't automatically make the robbed bits available. This also requires conversion to B8ZS/ESF signaling. I think you will find lots of places that have converted to SS7 still have the older AMI/SF facilities in place thus limiting circuit bandwidth to 56kb. Tim Gorman Southwestern Bell Tel Co tg6124@ping.com ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 10 Jan 1995 09:11:06 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan) writes: > In article , sohl,william h com> wrote: >> In article , Matthew P. Downs >> wrote: >>> Unless you use ISDN, you are using robbed-bit signalling between your >>> premise and the Central Office. Unless like a previous poster had >>> stated, the robbed bits only become important during call set-up and >>> tear-down. Ie. going on-hook and off-hook. Otherwise the robbed bits >>> will be 1's. > In a sense, the robbed bits are only important during call set-up and > tear-down. However, since (a) we don't know when set-up/tear-down > occurs and (b) we don't have control over where our PCM data goes, we > can't use those bits at all. Which gets back to why it's called > robbed-bit signaling in the first place. Their presence still affects > the bandwidth that can be obtained. It doesn't matter if the robbed bit is steady 0, steady 1, or whatever. The robbed bit steals the LSB of the encoded PCM word and introduces an error. The effect, though small, is present NOT JUST during call set up and tear down but wherever Robbed bit signalling is used. Furthermore, the number of individual signalling links will effect the total noise introduced. This is because the robbed bits occur every 6 frames and the multiframes of the Local Loop A, EC/IC Trunk A, IC/ED Trunk B, and Local Loop B are NOT aligned. For MOST (that is more than 50% and much more likely 90%) of all long distance connections in the US there will be more than 2 and as many 6 Robbed Bit links involved. The impact on the S/N ratio can range from 2 to more than 10 db. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: d92-sam@dront.nada.kth.se (Sam Spens Clason) Subject: Re: Christmas Greetings From AT&T Date: 9 Jan 1995 19:29:57 GMT In Ari.Wuolle@hut.fi (Ari Wuolle) writes: >> Well, we'll find out how this works over here in a couple of years. >> Austria just joined the EU, and the EU has decreed the end of telecom >> monopolies by the end of 1996 (or is it 1998)? We will all be faced >> with the same problems and privileges then. Ah, but I just read that the Comission has given in to pressure from the former monopolies in the new member states Sweden and Finland. It was a very small article in todays paper that said that there would be no EU-laws but rather "recommendations" regarding telco competition issued by the commission. Can anyone shed some light on the details of this? > Finland also just joined EU, but our local and long distance monopolies > ended already 1st January 1994. International call traffic was deregulated > fully in summer 1994. Sweden got deregulated mid 93. In theory Sweden is more deregulated than Britain, second only to NZ. However there is still a de facto monopoly since there is only one operator that offers local calls -- telia (former dept. of telecom). That might change when Singapore Telecom gets their Stockholm operation up and running (they just bought a cable company with 1/4M subscribing households). Only nobody knows when that is going to be. And since there is only one competitor on LD and int'l calls the prizes aren't really as low as in Finland during office hours. > You can always choose different carrier by dialling its carrier code > before telephone number you are calling to. Telcom Finland is 101, > Telivo 1041 and Kaukoverkko Ysi 109. > Currently you cannot choose default international carrier - you must > use correct international access code, which are now carrier > dependent, 990 for Telecom Finland, 994 for Telivo and 999 for Finnet. > (Old international access code was 990.) Hopefully this will change in > 1996 when new 00 international access code will take over old ones. We too have carrier dependent access codes. 007 is Tele2 and 009 (the old access code) is Telia. To call me using Tele2 would be 007 08 661 3882. One cannot use Tele2 without being a subscriber, though it costs nothing and is a pure formality this halts competition a lot. It's hard to understand that people can't be bothered making *one* toll free call and sign *one* paper to get 5-10% off their LD and international calls. Regards, Sam Spens Clason home: 08-661 3882 everywhere: 070-1234567 ------------------------------ From: jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) Subject: Re: ISDN Over Wireless Date: 9 Jan 1995 19:02:30 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network Jared Enzler (jenzler@olympus.net) wrote: > I live in an area where the telephone co. shows no interest in > offering ISDN. But the area is well covered by cellular phone > systems. > Questions: There appear to be several varieties of digital cellular on > the way. Do any of these have the potential to offer ISDN? Which > ones? What sort of technical or other barriers are there to wireless > ISDN? ISDN is 144,000 bits per second, and that would take an awful lot of bandwidth to transmit over radio. I don't think CDPD or whatever they call digital cellular has channels that are anywhere near that wide. Find out if the phone company has a newer 5ESS switch. If not then they can't offer ISDN. THe central office may have a 5ESS switch, but the distance to your phone is too far. They can get around that by putting in a T1 line that would serve up to 24 subscribers in the neighborhood, but it would cost money, and some telcos just don't want to do that. John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs Rancho Santiago Community College District 17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgr@eis.calstate.edu ------------------------------ From: pritter@nit.AirTouch.COM (Phil Ritter) Subject: Re: Erlang Capacity Organization: AirTouch Cellular, Los Angeles Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 15:00:15 GMT In article Tim Gorman writes: > ERU.ERUDYG@memo4.ericsson.se writes in TELECOM Digest V15 #2: >> I am looking for information about Erlang Capacity Calculations for >> land line based telecom networks. My main question is this: >> In cellular, typical system design is according to Erlang B or Erlang >> C traffic tables, and designed for 2% blocking (.02 G.O.S., Grade Of >> Service). [stuff deleted] > Again, it has been a while but I thought Erlang C was not used for > figuring blockage to offered load on a trunk group but instead for > figuring holding time in queue while waiting for answer. Are you sure > you use Erlang C in trunk blocking or do I have my tables mixed up :-) ? Indeed, Erlang-B is used to predict blocking when a blocked-call is discarded and Erlang-C is used when a blocked call is queued to wait for a free trunk. The ability of a cellular phone to produce a minimum effort redial (the user just has to press send again -- many phones will do this automatically) mimics queueing so well that Erlang-C becomes a better predictor of blocking. Phil Ritter pritter@la.airtouch.com ------------------------------ From: jgo@cci.com (John O'Keefe) Subject: Re: Need an EBCDIC Spec - ebcdic.rq [1/1] Organization: Northern Telecom, Network Application Systems Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:46:08 GMT In article , Brent E. Boyko wrote: > In article is written: >> I'm working on a project which requires conversion of EBCDIC to >> ASCII and visa-versa. Does anyone know where I can find: >> 1) a spec for the EBCDIC character set, >> 2) source code which performs such translations and/or >> 3) a library which performs these translations. > The Unix utility "dd" can be used to convert USASCII to EBCDIC and > vice versa. For example, the following command would read the ascii > file "text.file" and write it in 80-column EBCDIC format to mag tape > drive 0, using 8000 byte blocks: > dd if=text.file of=/dev/rmt0 obs=8000 cbs=80 conv=ebcdic > Source code is available as part of the GNU fileutils package. Get the > file fileutils-3.12.tar.gz from the GNU ftp archive at prep.ai.mit.edu, > gatekeeper.dec.com, or ftp.uu.net. A word of caution with the block translation approach with EBCDIC to ASCII. If there are any packed-decimal fields in the record, it will translate garbage. You need a utility that does field-by-field translations for these fields. Highest Regards, John O'Keefe jgo@cci.com ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 08:12:32 -0500 Subject: Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK A week or two back, a query was posted by Jan Joris re free phone calls. > What's happening? Is the Dutch PTT blocking calls that could be perfectly > well completed? Or do the Britsh have a special agreement with the Americans > that not valid in the Netherlands? Who knows more? I'm told that most of the decisions on whether to complete calls or not are based on discussions at the Freephone Fourm. This is a group of (mostly marketing) people who provide service around the world. The Freephone fourm has recently approved a bilateral agreement called "plus freephone". To dial a freephone number in an other country, you dial: + (the international access code, 00 is europe 011 in US) CC (the country code of the country the number belongs) XXX...XXX (the freephone number.) So 00-1-800-xxx-xxxx is actually + followed by country code 1 followed by the number. If the country has signed up for bilateral agreement, as soon as it sees 00, it routes to an international gateway function, then it sees 1 and validates that as a valid country code (USA) and then looks at the 800 and recognizes that as "suppress billing" and completes the call. Otherwise if they don't support this, they recognize 800 as free and rejects the call after the fourth digit. All switches must be able to read and route based on the first four digits. After Dec 31, 1996 they must be able to read and route based on the first seven digits. So it is quite normal for the call the be rejected after four digits right now, and seven later. (Dec 31, 1996 is called Time-T after which all switches will accept phone numbers up to 15 digits (instead of 12) and route on seven digits instead of four). Judith Oppenheimer ------------------------------ From: ac554@lafn.org (Al Cohan) Subject: Re: Sprint and Calls Within Your Service Area Reply-To: ac554@lafn.org (Al Cohan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 07:32:57 GMT In a previous article, henderson@mln.com (Javier Henderson) says: > I just got off the phone with Sprint's customer service. Their special > offer of one cent per minute for calls within your service area applies > to all of Sprint customers, regarldess of what calling plan you're on. > You need to dial 10333, but considering the savings, I don't mind. The > charge is the same regardless of mileage. > The offer will expire on Feb 28, 1995. > I'm not associated with Sprint, other than as a mostly satisfied customer. > The above applies to residential lines in Southern California. Other areas > within California may have the same deal, you'd better check. Most of what you say is *not* true. In response to several of my telecom clients, I called Sprint (800 877-4040) on several occasions. I was misinformed 8 out of 10 calls. No, I am not kidding. The first few calls I was told just dialing 10333 is all that I had to do. Then I was told "I'm sorry, our promotion is for Sprint Customers Only"! In short, they didn't want my business. I never heard of a "promotion" for existing customers ... Finally I got a hold of a Sr. Supervisor after two days. The upshot of what I was told is that you have to subscribe and be validated in their switch or otherwise the LEC will get the billing at standard (15c per minute) rates. Also, the rate outside of the LATA 730 is standard rates and does not carry the 1 cent per minute charge ... it only applies to residential customers only, but they are working on a business customer plan to roll out shortly. After my account was validated, I called Sprint two more times, got the name of the telemarketer, confirmation code and was lied to again ... I'd hate to be at the end of customer service when all of these 1 cent calls come in at 15 cents and appear on the LEC billing! I suggest you call Sprint three times and see if you get three answers, then verify with a supervisor. I did this twice and both times was told misleading information. I sure hope that they get this straightened out because an organization the size of Sprint will have tremendous problems unraveling this misinformation. Most of there telemarkets are *not* located in California. Good Luck. Please e-mail me with your results. ------------------------------ From: mfraser@vanbc.wimsey.com (Mark Fraser) Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code Date: 10 Jan 1995 04:41:31 GMT Organization: Wimsey Information Services And while we're at it, are there any 10XXX[X] codes assigned in Canada? Mexico? Since at least Canada is part of the historical numbering plan, and since we have begun to experience the joys of competitive toll calling, and since the "dominant" carriers must give equal access to other carriers when a subscriber dials a leading "1", it seems sensible that these carriers might just want to have 10XXXX. Anyone comment? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:45:54 GMT From: Joe George Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Is this any stranger than a newspaper > having a three digit number of its own, ie 311, like that newspaper > in, where is it, Georgia? PAT] Yup, in Atlanta the local rag (also known as the {Atlanta Journal- Constitution} bought 511 from BellSouth for a classified search service (and other services). It's 50 cents a call but you get three free calls per month. BellSouth also sold out on 711 to a job search company, but I don't know much about it. Joe George (jgeorge@nbi.com, jgeorge@crl.com) (Please don't use 'jgeorge@twiglet.nbi.com' anymore.) ------------------------------ From: aa070@torfree.net (David Leibold) Subject: Re: More CO Codes For Each NPA - Any Telcos Take Advantage? Organization: Toronto FreeNet Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 07:18:14 GMT A correction and a clarification on my article on NXXes in NPAs (originally posted from gvc.com instead of here) ... 1) While St. John's is the capital of the Canadian province of Newfoundland, there is the oft-confused Saint John, New Brunswick which I was a bit too hasty to proclaim as a provincial capital. That privilege, I believe, actually goes to another of the New Brunswick cities. 2) There have been N0/1X exchanges in some area codes already, of course (212, 213, 312, etc). The focus of the posting, to clarify, was those area codes that did *not* have N0/1X CO codes before now, such as NPA 506 or 807 where there aren't that many NXX in service. In other words, will telcos in those cases assign N0/1X codes because they are now able to, rather than because they have to? David Leibold aa070@freenet.toronto.on.ca ------------------------------ From: Jhupf Subject: Re: Flat Rate Cellular Phone Service Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 13:09:07 EST Organization: News & Observer Public Access On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Andrew Laurence wrote: > Jhupf writes: >> Cellular One of Triangle here in the Triangle in North Carolina offers >> full local access on weekends for $10 a month. We were considering >> going for it until we realized we had an accmulation of more than 575 >> minutes of local calling credit we haven't been able to use during the >> past 14 months. > Are you saying that Cellular One lets you carry unused minutes from > your allowance over to future months? GTE Mobilnet here in the San > Francisco Bay Area has a "use 'em or lose 'em" policy. Sorry for any misunderstanding; the 60 minutes a month I get with my calling plan are on a "use 'em or lose 'em" basis. What I have accumulated are the balance of the bonus time I got when I initially signed on to CellularOne plus what I got when I renewed my service with them after the first year. I was surprised when I got my bill to see that they carried the balance of the first years bonus forward and added to the new bonus! The balance is available to use after I have gone through my monthly allocation under the plan I have. ------------------------------ From: fgoldstein@bbn.com (Fred R. Goldstein) Subject: Re: MANs in USA Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 12:09:10 GMT Organization: Bolt Beranek & Newman Inc. In article <3ej414$d7@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> rumian@uci.agh.edu.pl writes: > I need some help in getting info about Metropolitan Area Networks > in USA. You may note that none of the early replies came from the USA, which is all you asked for! This is because there are essentially no MANs in the USA. They aren't a major commercial force. The telephone companies cannot offer 802.6 MANs because 802.6 requires that the telephone company own the bridge at the customer site, but US telephone companies are prohibited from owning customer premise equipment. Some US telephone comanies offer SMDS, a connectionless data service which was originally run over 802.6 facilities. But most SMDS nowadays is run over HDLC point-to-point circuits. Some companies own private MANs, often using FDDI which may be using "dark fiber" leased from a telephone company, and in a few cases telephone companies offer FDDI MAN services. But none of these amount to a lot of business. The major high-bandwidth carrier services are DS3 leased lines and, coming Real Soon Now, ATM. Fred R. Goldstein k1io fgoldstein@bbn.com Bolt Beranek & Newman Inc., Cambridge MA USA +1 617 873 3850 ------------------------------ From: tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) Subject: Re: Cellular NAM and ESN Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 21:35:44 +0200 In article , gsegalli@ic1d.harris.com (Greg Segallis) wrote: > Can two cellular phones be programmed to the same NAM, while their > ESN's are different, so that either phone can be used on one number? > Assume only one phone can be on at a time (e.g. I have a car phone I > use while on the road and a portable I use when I'm away from my car). > Does the cellular carrier use the NAM to connect calls or the ESN, or > both? If the ESN must be the same, can I alter the one to match the > other? This would not be done to steal anyone else's service, just to > allow me the convenience of using both my phones as the situation > requires/allows. What are the legal issues in doing this? To which Pat replied that it would be a very bad idea to do it, leaving the door open for theft of airtime (well, Pat did say many other things, but let me get to my point :-) GSM solves the problem of two phones (or more) for one line in a very nice way: the subscriber identity is totally separated from the terminal: it is located on a SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card. This way, you can have as many phones as you mant and still have one single phone number: simply plug your card in whatever phone you intend to use! You may even plug your card in somebody else's phone, or in a rented car phone, for instance. Very convenient, indeed. Of course, the terminal still has an identity, and, if reported stolen, can be blocked by the carrier, no matter who is using it. And thanks to sophisticated algorithms, it is not easy to steal airtime by mimicking a SIM card (at least that's we're all being told!). Does anybody know whether there are other types of cellular networks offering such a feature (i.e. being able to use different mobile phones with the same number, without opening the door to phreaks)? Eric Tholome 23, avenue du Centre tholome@dialup.francenet.fr 78180 Montigny le Bretonneux phone: +33 1 30 48 06 47 France fax: same number, call first! ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #20 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa25643; 10 Jan 95 10:27 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA23379; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:20:46 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA23372; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:20:43 CST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:20:43 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501101120.AA23372@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #21 TELECOM Digest Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:20:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 21 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: AT&T First to Deliver Long-Awaited "Follow-Me" 500 Numbers (M. Weiss) Re: Cellphone Now Giving ANI? (Mr. James Holland) Re: Need Information on EXCEL (Gerry Gollwitzer) Re: Need Information on IS-54 (Glenn Shirley) Re: "High-end" Phone Products (Michael N. Marcus) Re: Information Wanted on Northern Telecom Phone (Michael N. Marcus) Re: MANs in USA (Roger Fajman) Re: Emergency Numbers in Various Countries (Carl Moore) Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? (Ted Hadley) Re: Phone Rates From Israel (Jay Kaplowitz) Re: Interim Results of FCC Auctions (Raj Gajwani) Re: NANP Changes (Fran S. Menzel) Re: Telecom Texts (Mark Peacock) Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK (Ari Wuolle) ISDN Wish List (Syd Weinstein) General Datacom ATM Switches Sign Deal With Siemens (Peter Granic) Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly (Robert Casey) Digital Cellular in the USA (reb@xyzzy.com) Re: Computer Caller-ID (Seymour Dupa) Starting a Ratepayers Association (Aryeh M. Friedman) PCS Auction Results (M.J. Sutter) ETSI Standards - Where? 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mweiss@interaccess.com (Mitch Weiss) Subject: Re: AT&T First to Deliver Long-Awaited "Follow-Me" 500 Numbers Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1995 22:07:04 In article A Alan Toscano writes: > Calls within the United States, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin > Islands during off-peak hours (from 5 p.m. to 8 a.m. weekdays, and all > weekend) will cost 15 cents a minute, whether the caller or receiver > pays. Calls during peak hours (from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. weekdays) will > cost 25 cents a minute. Rates for some in-state calls may vary. > Calls made to or from other countries will be charged the regular AT&T > rates for those countries. Who pays for the call? Is it the caller or the owner of the number? If it is the caller, would I be charged for an international call if I call someone who happens to be overseas at the time? Mitchell Weiss mweiss@interaccess.com ------------------------------ From: holland@perot.mtsu.edu (Mr. James Holland) Subject: Re: Cellphone Now Giving ANI? Date: 9 Jan 1995 15:49:16 GMT Organization: Middle Tennessee State University, Murfreesboro, Tennessee > In article 8@eecs.nwu.edu, keith.knipschild@asb.com writes: > I guess NYNEX Mobile has made some progress, Today I dialed 1-800-MY-ANI-IS > from my Cellular phone ... and guess what ... it came back with my > cellular phone number. In the past it would come back with a WEIRD > number. > Is NYNEX Mobile the first company to pass along the ANI from cellular > phones? The ANI returned on my cellular service (CellOne of Tennessee) is that of the business office of the local 911 office. Any idea why that is, or if it's only a fluke? Kind of unnerving to call back the ANI to my phone and be greeted with "911, can I help you". It's NOT their actual 911 emergency line, and other cell phones in the area get the same ANI number as I. James Holland holland@knuth.mtsu.edu ------------------------------ From: gerryg@earth.execpc.com (Gerry Gollwitzer) Subject: Re: Need Information on EXCEL Date: 9 Jan 1995 15:54:57 GMT Organization: Exec-PC Bill Dankert (graphite@netcom.com) wrote: > Has anyone heard of, or participated in, Excel Telecommunications, > Inc.? It is a long distance service provider that uses network > marketing instead of a sales force. Please post, or email me > directly, any comments concerning Excel. Your help will be greatly > appreciated. Bill, I have been with Excel since the end of July. I have also been a telecom consultant for almost four years. Excel is working great for us. They really have put together an great income producing program. Let me know if you have further interest. Gerry ------------------------------ From: shirleyg@stanilite.com.au (UL ENG) Subject: Re: Need Information on IS-54 Date: 9 Jan 1995 21:26:15 +1100 Organization: Stanilite Electronics Pty. Ltd. Sydney, Australia Dharshana P. Jayasuriya writes: > I would appreciate very much if someone can recommend a good book or > some other material which has sufficient information on the architecture > and protocols of the US digital standard IS 54. > Is it possible to buy a copy of the standard itself? (I mean not the > whole thousands of pages but a summary.) Or is it strictly proprietary? You can order the standard (its $US 218) from: Global Engineering Documents 15 Inverness Way East Englewood CO 80112 Ph. (303) 792-2181 (800) 624-3974 Fax (303) 397-7935 Don't forget your international prefix and the 1 for the U.S before the above numbers. I haven't tried the 800 number above so I don't know if it works outside the U.S. or not. My employer regularly buys standards through them (they are the official EIA/TIA supplier) by mail from Australia so you shouldn't have any problems. Note the above phone numbers are for international enquiries (outside the U.S and Canada) and there are other numbers for the different regions within North America. Hope that helps, Glenn ------------------------------ From: mnm914@aol.com (MNM 914) Subject: Re: "High-end" Phone Products Date: 10 Jan 1995 08:05:33 GMT Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: mnm914@aol.com (MNM 914) I'm 99.9995832% sure there are no three-line cordlesses, other than those dedicated to work with specific multi-line phone systems. Panasonic KX-T3980 is my first choice for two-line analog cordlesses, and Uniden 9200 and Vtech Platinum (and similar ATT 9132, if it's finally available) are good 900MHz digital phones. There is a lot of discussion of these products in the phone equipment section of the Consumer Electronics Forum on CompuServe (I'm the sysop). Michael N. Marcus CompuServe: 74774,2166 AOL: MNM914 Netcom: MNMarcus@ix.Netcom.com Prodigy: Duh? Fax: 914 961-7899 ------------------------------ From: mnm914@aol.com (MNM 914) Subject: Re: Information Wanted on Northern Telecom Phone Date: 10 Jan 1995 08:05:37 GMT Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: mnm914@aol.com (MNM 914) Hi, Keith. Your name is familiar; have we spoken on CompuServe? It's an amazing piece of equipment. It's even smart enough to put a message in the right mailbox based on its Caller ID. I'm presently testing one, and reviews will be in the library of the phone equipment section of Consumer Electronics Forum on CIS, and in {Teleconnect} magazine, and probably {Home Office Computing}. Michael N. Marcus ------------------------------ From: Roger Fajman Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 23:06:21 EST Subject: Re: MANs in USA > I need some help in getting info about Metropolitan Area Networks > in USA. The questions are: > 1. What is the physical structure of MANs (fiber, coax)? > 2. If fiber what is the protocol (fddi, atm)? > 3. Who is the main investor (banks)? > 4. Does banks use MAN for data transmission? > 5. What services are provided, and which are most popular? Bell Atlantic (the local phone company) operates a metropolitan FDDI network (called FNS) in the Washington, DC area. There are multiple interconnected FDDI rings covering different parts of the area. They offer 10 Mbps Ethernet and 4 and 16 Mbps token ring connections. The service looks like a Ethernet or token ring to the customers. Network Systems brouters are located in Bell Atlantic central offices. Fiber Ethernet or token ring connections run to the customer locations. I believe that the fiber is single mode, both for the FDDI ring and the drops. Filters in the brouters prevent customers from seeing each others traffic. Roger Fajman Telephone: +1 301 402 4265 National Institutes of Health BITNET: RAF@NIHCU Bethesda, Maryland, USA Internet: RAF@CU.NIH.GOV ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 20:59:05 GMT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: Emergency Numbers in Various Countries Telephone dials vary from one country to the next. As set up here in country code 1 (U.S., Canada, and part of the Caribbean area), a zero is 10 dial clicks, and any other digit is its face value of clicks. So 112 would use 4 clicks and 999 would use 27 clicks, but those are not in use here for emergency. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:56:43 PST From: tedh@cylink.COM (Ted Hadley) Subject: Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? In article synchro@access1.digex.net (Steve) writes: > There is a company in California called Cylink. They make several > different kinds of crypto gear for communications. I'm unable to come > up with a telephone number for them at the moment. Telephone number is 408-735-5800. Ted A. Hadley tedh@cylink.COM Cylink Corporation, 910 Hermosa Ct, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 USA 408-735-5847 ------------------------------ From: jayk372@aol.com (JayK372) Subject: Re: Phone Rates From Israel Date: 9 Jan 1995 19:50:52 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: jayk372@aol.com (JayK372) I believe that you can call from Israel for about 80 cents per minute from midnight Israel time to 8 a.m. My recollection is that the highest rate, during the day, is about $1.50 per minute. This is via Bezeq, the PTT. Jay Kaplowitz ------------------------------ From: rgajwani@husc.harvard.edu (Raj Gajwani) Subject: Re: Interim Results of FCC Auctions Date: 10 Jan 1995 02:15:57 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Brian Miner (bminer@wireless.ultranet.com) wrote: > Has anyone seen results from the FCC auctions of the PCS licenses on > the net ? FTP, gopher, or WWW to "fcc.gov" for full results and documents. ------------------------------ From: f.s.menzel Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1995 13:31:32 -0500 Subject: Re: NANP Changes On 22 Dec 94 Joe Bergstein wrote: > I thought the NANP changes weren't going into effect until 7/1/95. > Now I hear that CPE vendors are harrasing small customers with > outrages upgrade prices to support NANP changes as of 1/1/95. My > understanding was that changes were permissive (both old and new A/C > OK) until 7/1/95, at which point they would become mandatory. Is this > correct? If not, please update. Since I'm not sure of the dates, I'll assume they're correct and provide the following humble defense of my employer, a CPE vendor. Many of our customers will be faced with system upgrades to deal with the NANP change. It would be irresponsible for the vendors to wait until the last minute to inform customers of the issue, since it would be impossible to fill the demand if all NANP system upgrades were ordered during the final month of premissive dialing. For our larger customers, expenditures for equipment upgrades typically need to be budgeted in the preceeding year. A small comment on the "outrageous" upgrade prices: in cases where customers have older systems, the NANP upgrade is likely to require bringing the system up the level of systems being currently sold, a costly procedure. My employer,for one, did lots of soul-searching related to NANP issues, and ended up generating NANP releases for many (but not all) versions of our systems in order to keep the price reasonable. On the bright side, once you do upgrade, you'll probably find lots of things in addition to NANP to appreciate about your upgraded system. Fran Menzel, AT&T Global Business Communication Systems ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 12:29:47 -0600 From: mpeacock@dttus.com Subject: Re: Telecom Texts A text that I've used is Engineering and Operations of the Bell System, 2nd Edition, published by AT&T (c) 1981 or 1983. I may be slightly off on the title since someone seems to have nicked my copy. It doesn't cover recent digital developments but does a nice clear job discussing the POTS network. It's not full of jargon; a good introductory text. Indeed, I believe it was originally written for new hires at Bell Labs. Mark Peacock Deloitte & Touche Management Consulting Detroit, Michigan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 03:37:11 +0200 From: Ari.Wuolle@hut.fi (Ari Wuolle) Subject: Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK > All of a sudden, I can now dial 1-800 numbers from the UK. There is a > few seconds of silence, and then an American female voice tells me > that this call will *not* be free, but charged at standard direct-dial > rates. If I don't want to pay, I should hang up now. Just the same here from Finland -- but only if I call using Telecom Finland. (990-1-800-XXX-XXXX). When I try to call using Telivo, I will get tritone meaning number is not in use after 994-1-800. Finnet lets me dial the whole number 999-1-800-XXX-XXXX and then gives tritone. (Telecom Finland is former monopoly carrier here. Telivo is owned by Finnish (electrical) power company Imatran Voima Oy. Finnet is owned by private telephone companies in co-operation. Telivo and Finnet have had licence to carry international trafic to everywhere from last summer.) > Just for fun, I tried 1-800-MY-ANI-IS. It told me: "702 000 5555" ! I got exactly the same number. Pity that only one carrier here let US 800 calls go through. It would have been nice to see what ANI would read back when using other carriers. Ari Wuolle e-mail Ari.Wuolle@hut.fi s-mail Kolkekannaksentie 10 B 4 telephone + 358 0 509 2073 02720 ESPOO cellphone + 358 49 431 140 FINLAND fax + 358 0 428 429 (temporary) ------------------------------ From: syd@myxa.com (Syd Weinstein) Subject: ISDN Wish List Date: 9 Jan 1995 12:06:36 -0500 Organization: Myxa Corporation, Huntingdon Valley, PA Reply-To: syd@Myxa.com Looking for a product that meets a wish list of mine: Basically I am looking for an ISDN TA with the following features: 1. RS-232 interface up to 115.2kbps; 2. accepts 1B call and performs compression to get 115.2 async out of it; 3. Desirable, but not mandataory, can accept two calls, one per B, and take each to 115.2 async individually. (likewise can make two outbound, one per B using each of the RS-232 interfaces); 4. Dials with the AT style command set. optional feature: O-1. Accepts 230.4kbps RS-232 serial interface and uses compression to make use of it via 2B single call; O-2. Imbedded V.34 modem, accepts calls from POTS lines by using modem portion and ISDN lines using TA portion. Anybody know of anything? Please e-mail to me and I will summarize to the group. Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP Elm Coordinator - Current 2.4PL24 Myxa Corporation Projected 3.0 Release: ??? ?,199? syd@Myxa.COM or dsinc!syd Voice: (215) 947-9900, FAX: (215) 938-0235 Welcome Page: http://www.myxa.com Elm WWW: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html ------------------------------ From: stari@io.org (Peter Granic) Subject: General Datacom ATM Switches Sign Deal With Siemens Date: 9 Jan 1995 20:43:31 -0500 Organization: Internex Online (io.org) Data: 416-363-4151 Voice: 416-363-8676 Last week General Datacom announced that it had signed an agreement with German Telecom multinational Siemens in which Siemens will roll out their ATM network services with General Datacom switches. This is the second big announcement which General Datacom made regarding ATM switch sales, the other being to a large Canadian telecommunications provider. Does anyone know if they are having success in the U.S. right now? I did not really know about them being into ATM until a few months ago. I thought the big players at the moment were shaping up to be Fore Systems, IBM, Hughes, and Newbridge, but seeing that GDC is rolling out switches to large data service providers it is obvious that they are also a company trying to take the ATM market as well. Have AT&T and MCI announced which ATM switches they will go with? Fore Systems is apparently the only ATM manufacturer which is making money on ATM right now. I would think that this means they are succeeding with the large U.S. market right now which generates the most ATM revenue. They have an excellent range of products, with the most comprehensive set of desktop to desktop solutions (according to what I've read). Our company has not moved to ATM yet (we are just pondering regular switching!), so I haven't even had a chance to play with the technology yet. If somebody has gotten their hands on some of the switches, and would have an opinion on how they would rate the products, I would appreciate it if you would email me. Thanks, Peter Granic ------------------------------ From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) Subject: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 04:44:41 GMT Today, I was in the airport that serves Atlanta, GA. I tried to place a few 1-800 toll free calls, and had a lot of trouble. Numbers I know to be good got responses of "invalid number". I'd reach for another pay phone, and got thru to the number. I tried the same numbers later that day (while getting hung up with the dead Newark airport mess) in the Atlanta airport and got more "invalid number"; another attempt got me thru, then I got cut off. Pay phones were labeled "PTC" (or something like that) and also said that the local exchange didn't "own" these phones. Some phones didnt work at all (bad keypads, or just dead). I don't know who "PTC" is, but they really SUCK! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:01:59 EST From: reb@xyzzy.com (Phydeaux's PC) Subject: Digital Cellular in the USA Exactly how is digital cellular being implemented here in the US? I was under the impression that the control and voice channels were digitally encoded and then sent between the phone and the tower. Today a dealer for a cellphone company told me that only the control signals are encoded. Somehow I don't believe him. Assuming that the signals *are* encoded, how are they doing it? Are they using the same analog bandwidth more efficiently via the digital signal? reb reb@xyzzy.com ------------------------------ From: grumpy@en.com (Seymour Dupa) Subject: Re: Computer Caller-ID Date: 10 Jan 1995 00:28:22 -0500 Organization: Exchange Network Services, Inc. Thomas Fitzurka (LCRS73A@prodigy.com) wrote: > Does anyone know of a software program that enables you to have your > computer identify caller's phone numbers? I saw a movie called > Brainscan that had a computer, using caller id, identify the caller > and tell the person in an "igor" voice, which I perticularly liked, > that "Bobby is calling master". The idea was really interesting to me > and I would like to get something like it. Rochell Communications has caller ID unit with a serial port that feeds the caller id info to a serial port on a computer. They also have a program that reads the computer's serial port, look if the number has called before, and if so, diaplays the info. They are at 800-542-8808 or 512-794-0088. ------------------------------ From: cash!aryeh@darkstar.UCSC.EDU (Aryeh M. Friedman) Subject: Starting a Ratepayers Association Date: 10 Jan 1995 10:12:27 GMT Organization: UCSC Dept of Econ How do I start a effective ratepayers association to protest among other things GTE of California's *OUTRAGOUS* service fee hike from $8/month to $20/month for flat rate? A similor rate hike has happened to lifeline and measured costumers. BTW I have the support of most of the people I know to do this. Also I study telecom in school so I know the basics of the legal aspects of the industry. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Instead of *starting* one why don't you *join* an existing one? There are many effective ones throughout the USA. Save yourself a lot of hassles by working with one of the established organizations which deal with these things. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1995 20:59:48 -0500 From: Mjsutter@aol.com Subject: PCS Auction Results When will the results (winners) of the most recent round of PCS license auctions be made public? How are the results announced? Does FCC maintain a Gopher that could access this type of info? Thanks in advance. Mike [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: See an earlier message in this issue for a discussion of interim results. The FCC maintains a public file on all this at 'fcc.gov'. Use FTP, Gopher or similar services to get there. PAT] ------------------------------ From: ethgls@duna.ericsson.se (Gabor Lajos) Subject: ETSI Standards - Where? Date: 10 Jan 1995 05:00:26 -0600 Hello everybody, I am looking for ANY information about how to get ETSI (also pre-ETSI) standards in any form (eg. hardcopy, CD-Rom, postcript file). It can be an office from where I have to order, or an 'FTP site' or anything. I wrote 'FTP site' since I can't do real FTP to the outside world, only that E-mail operated fake FTP is available for me. Thanks in advance. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org (Phillip Dampier) Reply-To: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:03:40 Subject: BA-VA Drops Touch-Tone Charge BELL ATLANTIC-VIRGINIA DROPS TOUCH-TONE CHARGE; BROADENS OFFERING TO LOW-INCOME CUSTOMERS RICHMOND, VA -- Bell Atlantic-Virginia's telephone bills were reduced beginning Jan. 1 with the elimination of the charge for Touch-Tone service, saving customers approximately $23 million a year. Also, effective Jan. 1, the company expanded the offering of its low-cost Virginia Universal Service Plan, making it available to all USDA food stamp recipients. Both moves were prompted by a order issued last October by the State Corporation Commission establishing a new form of regulation for Bell Atlantic. Residential customers currently pay a monthly fee of 60 cents per line for Touch-Tone; business customers pay $1.85 per line; larger businesses, with PBX systems, pay $2.46 for each PBX trunk. Roughly 90% of the company's two million customers now subscribe to Touch-Tone. Technicians are currently converting all of the remaining rotary lines to Touch-Tone. Rotary- and pulse-dial phones work on a Touch-Tone line. "If a customer wishes to switch from rotary service to Touch-Tone, he or she needs only to plug in a Touch-Tone phone. No call to our business office is necessary," explained Hugh Stallard, Bell Atlantic- Virginia's president and CEO. Virginia Universal Service Plan The company's expansion of the Virginia Universal Service Plan is expected to increase the number of customers eligible by roughly 50 percent. The plan, which the company launched in 1988, is currently offered only to those eligible for Medicaid. There are some 539,000 Virginians now receiving Medicaid benefits. Total food stamp recipients in the state number over 637,000, some of whom also receive Medicaid. The Virginia Universal Service Plan (VSUP) provides telephone service to low-income individuals for $2.50 a month. Subscribers to this service are permitted 30 outgoing calls per monthly billing period at no additional charge. Every call over 30 is billed at 9.6 cents per call. VUSP service does not permit any of the enhanced services such as call waiting or three-way calling. Food stamp recipients interested in subscribing to the Virginia Uni- versal Service Plan should contact the Bell Atlantic business office for additional details. Bell Atlantic Corporation, based in Philadelphia, is the parent of companies which provide a full array of local exchange telecom- munications services in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, and Washington, D.C. The corporation is at the forefront of developing a variety of new products, including video, entertainment, and information services. Bell Atlantic also is the parent of one of the nation's largest cellular carriers and has an ownership position in cellular properties internationally, including a 42 percent economic interest in Grupo Iusacell, Mexico's largest independent cellular company. In addition, Bell Atlantic owns an interest in Telecom Corporation of New Zealand and is the parent of companies that provide business systems services for customer-based information technology throughout the U.S. and internationally. ------------------------------ From: de@moscom.com (David Esan) Subject: NPA/NXX Report For January 1995 Date: 10 Jan 95 16:19:51 GMT Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY This is my quarterly report on the number of exchanges in each NPA in the NANP. It is derived from information in FCC #10. This is article #15 in the series. (Note: I missed the 3rd quarter 1994 article. Busy busy on a new database, and preparing for the 1995 numbering changes.) FCC #10 is a tariff issued by BellCore that contains all the area codes, exchange combinations in the North American Numbering Plan (NANP). It also contains lata information and V&H coordinate information. There is a lot of additional information that I don't use, so I won't add here. It is available through a number of sources. The one closest to the FCC is ITS, which can be contacted at 202-857-3800. My company compiles this information for use in its products and does not seem to be interested in selling this information. Queries are still flowing through the bureaucracy. I have used pages that are effective prior to January 20, 1995. I am not responsible for the information supplied in FCC #10. I have not included the following in my counts of exchanges: - NXX's that are not dialable by a standard user (ie nxx's that begin with a 1 or 0). - Mexican exchanges in the 52? series of area codes. I've got them, you can dial them with 011, but they're not really NPAs. - Exchanges that are non-dialable in the 88? series of area codes. I've got those also, but you can't dial them, so I'm not including them. Numbers that begin with 88 are nondialable stations in the US, Canada and Mexico. They are ranches in the middle of the Nevada or Texas desert, or isolated outpost of civilization (always wanted to use that phrase) in the tundra of Canada. I find place names like the Bar J Ranch, Double B Ranch, and JD Dye, Texas, Amargosa, Corncreek and Reese Valley, NV, and Chick Lake, Redknife and Taglu, NT. I gather they are ringdown stations, or radio-telephone stations. [It has been noted in c.d.t. that at least two of these numbers are for a bordello on the NV-CA border.] The fields are: ------------ rank last in July, 1994 213: 736 (1, 7) area code --^^^ ^^^ ^------- number of new exchanges |-------------- total number of exchanges 206: 775 (52, 4) 713: 719 (33, 7) 404: 668 (61, 19) 212: 653 (11, 10) 205: 764 (24, 1) 703: 679 (15, 8) 503: 666 (46, 17) 214: 652 (45, 20) 602: 753 (41, 6) 813: 673 (13, 11) 615: 660 (32, 12) 314: 639 (34, 22) 215: 735 ( 9, 3) 303: 671 (28, 9) 216: 657 (34, 14) 203: 630 (46, 25) 708: 732 (17, 5) 803: 669 (47, 15) 305: 653 (42, 18) 604: 623 (-1, 13) 1. 206 - split is in progress. Number should be reduced by split. 2. 205 - split is in progress. Number should be reduced by split. 3. 602 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. 4. 215 - split is in progress. Number should be reduced by split. 5. 708 - split is in progress. Number should be reduced by split. 6. 713 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. 7. 703 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. 8. 813 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. 9. 303 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. 11. 404 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. 13. 615 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. 15. 305 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. 19. 203 - split is planned. Number should be reduced by split. Note: The Los Angeles Area (213/818/310) area will receive an overlay area code. While none of these NPAs are in the top 20 this is an area of rapid telephone growth. There is also at least one split (the Bahamas) in the 809 area code, and perhaps a second (Puerto Rico). -> The NPA that is largest and is not splitting nor has plans, at this time, to split, is 803. -> The 3 smallest NPA's remain the same 413: 143 - Western Massachusetts (+6 exchange) 906: 117 - Michigan's Upper Peninsula (no change) 807: 109 - Western Ontario (+1 exchange) -> The NPAs with the greatest growth rates are: NPA % growth 917 26.73 810 11.46 910 10.83 404 10.04 508 8.79 816 8.63 312 8.02 919 7.92 210 7.74 408 7.60 -> The 10 NPAs with the least growth rates are: NPA % growth 807 0 418 0 316 0 306 0 304 0 604 -0.16 204 -0.27 802 -1.06 706 -6.29 313 -43.51 -> There are 70 NPAs (48% of the total) that have exchanges that are in the x00 to x19 range. They are: 201 214 314 503 615 714 818 202 215 317 506 616 718 903 203 216 334 510 619 803 904 204 301 360 512 630 805 905 205 303 404 517 703 808 908 206 305 407 519 704 809 909 209 306 408 602 706 810 910 210 310 410 609 707 813 916 212 312 415 610 708 816 917 213 313 416 612 713 817 919 -> Just for grins: The most used NXX (not counting 555) is 754 used in 122 npas. The least used are: 211 and 311 used only in 212, and 959 used only in 808. I should note here that these are exchanges that are truly in use, not for special calling, but in general day to day use. All the NPAs and the number of nxx's in each are listed below: 206: 775 612: 616 818: 493 810: 418 605: 373 819: 317 806: 268 205: 764 904: 612 407: 493 504: 418 418: 371 610: 312 709: 268 602: 753 501: 602 410: 488 301: 415 805: 369 613: 311 608: 265 215: 735 809: 592 412: 481 313: 414 207: 365 218: 310 706: 262 708: 732 312: 592 614: 478 801: 413 505: 363 202: 308 603: 259 713: 719 310: 592 913: 472 219: 408 419: 361 334: 307 917: 256 703: 679 619: 586 508: 470 213: 407 204: 359 808: 303 417: 229 813: 673 817: 568 601: 466 914: 401 618: 358 606: 300 308: 219 303: 671 804: 566 415: 462 908: 401 517: 356 903: 298 707: 211 803: 669 405: 565 515: 461 316: 401 319: 354 812: 295 719: 209 404: 668 717: 543 516: 458 502: 400 304: 353 712: 294 630: 196 503: 666 816: 541 306: 458 408: 396 702: 351 518: 292 307: 194 615: 660 414: 523 402: 451 919: 395 609: 344 360: 290 506: 188 216: 657 514: 520 714: 450 406: 394 915: 337 315: 287 802: 185 305: 653 317: 517 416: 442 512: 390 909: 334 507: 283 607: 183 212: 653 718: 511 910: 440 510: 389 409: 334 705: 282 401: 160 214: 652 513: 510 716: 439 318: 389 208: 334 902: 281 302: 146 314: 639 916: 504 209: 428 912: 384 905: 333 814: 278 413: 143 203: 630 201: 503 704: 424 701: 383 815: 333 901: 274 906: 117 604: 623 617: 501 616: 423 217: 381 918: 325 509: 271 807: 109 403: 622 210: 501 907: 421 519: 376 715: 325 309: 270 David Esan de@moscom.com ------------------------------ From: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org (Phillip Dampier) Reply-To: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:03:53 Subject: Caller ID Deluxe in N.J. BELL ATLANTIC PLANS NEW CALLER ID SERVICE Newark, N.J. -- Bell Atlantic customers in New Jersey will be able to see both the telephone number and name of the person calling with a new Caller ID service the company proposed December 30th. If approved by the state Board of Public Utilities (BPU), Caller ID Deluxe could be available early next year to residential and business customers in areas equipped for the service. "Caller ID Deluxe offers our customers a better way to manage their calls and to achieve an added sense of security," said Dennis Bone, Bell Atlantic-New Jersey vice president-externally affairs. "In our customer research, nearly 100 percent of customers said that the ability to see the phone number and names of callers is a valuable feature for them." The customer research was done by Bell Atlantic in Richmond, Virginia, where the company conducted a successful trial of Caller ID Deluxe. Statewide introduction of the service began in Virginia in August (1994) and it subsequently was introduced in the Bell Atlantic territory in Maryland, and West Virginia. Nationally, a total of 24 states now offer Caller ID Deluxe. Caller ID Deluxe displays the name as it appears on a residential customer's telephone account, not necessarily as it appears in the Bell Atlantic telephone directory, up to 15 characters, with the last name appearing first. For example, a call from the John Doe household may show, "Dow John." The Doe telephone number also would be dis- played. If no one answers when the call comes in, the Dow name and number could be held in memory and accessed later. The names and phone numbers of businesses will be displayed as they appear in the white pages of their Bell Atlantic telephone directories. The proposed monthly charge for the new service is $7.50 per month for residential and $9.50 for business customers. Customers also need a display unit that is capable of displaying a name and telephone number. The units may be purchased from a Bell Atlantic affiliate or from a number of other retailers. Display unit prices range from about $35 for a basic unit to about $120 for one built into the telephone. Bell Atlantic-New Jersey was the first company in the country to offer Caller ID statewide beginning in 1988 after a one-year trial. The company will continue to offer regular Caller ID that displays the in- coming caller's telephone number and costs $6.50 per month for resi- dential and $8.50 per month for business customers. Those who do not want their name or phone number shown on a Caller ID or Caller ID Deluxe display unit can elect, at no charge, to have their information blocked from going forward to the called party. To activate Per Call Blocking, customers dial *67 on a Touch-Tone phone or 1167 on a rotary phone prior to placing each call. Those who do not want to receive calls from people who have activated Per Call Blocking may elect to use Anonymous Call Rejection. It's available automatically to Caller ID customers and also would be avail- able to Caller ID Deluxe customers under the company's proposal. To activate it, Touch-Tone users dial *77 and rotary users dial 1177. It can be deactivated by dialing *87 and 1187. Bell Atlantic Corporation, based in Philadelphia, is the parent of companies that provide a full array of local exchange telecom- munication services in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, and Washington, D.C. The corporation is at the forefront of developing a variety of new products, including video, entertainment and information services. Bell Atlantic also is the parent of one of the nation's largest cellular carriers and has an ownership position in cellular properties internationally, including a 42 percent economic interest in Grupo Iusacell, Mexico's largest independent cellular company. In addition, Bell Atlantic owns an interest in Telecom Corporation of New Zealand and is the parent of companies that provide business systems services for customer-based information technology throughout the U.S. and internationally. ------------------------------ From: Doug H. Kerr Organization: Amarillo College PCAD-ML Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:28:33 GMT-6 Subject: Microwave-Data Problem I'm having a problem here at our college with a remote site which I connect via microwave. We have two NEC 2400 connected and also use a data channel off the T-1 for our router which connects our lans. I have not had any problems with my telephones but the lan has had severe problems. Here lies the problem: the data people say it's the microwave or T-1. I run a data channel also that is used for a CCIS link between switches and have no problems with this so I assume it is not in the micro or T-1. How can you prove the origin of the problem, or monitor the system without the high cost test equipment? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: petar@trance.helix.net (Petar Nikic) Subject: Urgent Help Needed With European Phone Systems Date: 10 Jan 1995 08:30:33 GMT Organization: Helix Internet What should I do to make a cordless phone work in Europe? I bought it in Canada. There are two problems with the plugs: the phone plug and the plug for the recharger. Both of them are different than those which Europeans use. I am sure that somebody else has been faced with these problems. So, I would appreciate any help. I am leaving tomorrow night, so please respond ASAP. Thanks, Petar ------------------------------ From: Robohn Scott Subject: Re: GSM SIM Implementation Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 08:27:00 PST In article , tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) wrote: > GSM solves the problem of two phones (or more) for one line in a very nice > way: the subscriber identity is totally separated from the terminal: it is > located on a SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card. This way, you can > have as many phones as you mant and still have one single phone number: > simply plug your card in whatever phone you intend to use! You may even > plug your card in somebody else's phone, or in a rented car phone, for > instance. > Very convenient, indeed. Of course, the terminal still has an identity, and, > if reported stolen, can be blocked by the carrier, no matter who is using > it. And thanks to sophisticated algorithms, it is not easy to steal airtime > by mimicking a SIM card (at least that's we're all being told!). Does anyone know how the SIM is implemented (i.e., PCMCIA card, SIMM, some other standards-based approach, or proprietary?) How much information is actually stored on it? Have there been any problems with it in practice? How long has the SIM been available commercially? Scott Robohn Booz, Allen & Hamilton robohns@bah.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 08:33:33 -0500 From: padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson) Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs Mark Smith Mercerville, NJ writes: > BEDMINSTER, NJ, AND ORANGEBURG, NY -- Two of the nation's largest > wireless carriers are teaming up in a unique program to prevent their > customers from being victimized by criminals who steal cellular > service. > The new effort combines a Personal Identification Number (PIN) code > system recently pioneered by NYNEX Mobile Communications in New York > City with a new Fraud Protection Zone technique developed by Bell > Atlantic Mobile. Sorry but I seem to be missing something here. If the PIN is sent in the clear then anyone grabbing the cell phone number off the air will also get the PIN. > In the rare instance that they are cloned, customers only need to call > their home carrier and receive a new PIN to restore service. Oh, I see, once a phone is compromised, and the customer gets the bill, they can change the PIN and start all over again. True the customer could deactivate/change the PIN daily (hourly?) but how many will? How fast can the cloners react? Then we have the problem of "customers" calling up to report a problem and asking to change the PIN -- but how will the Telco know who is calling? AH! They will need a PIN to change their PIN 8*). > By contrast, customers not using PINs must bring their phones back to a > carrier or dealer for a new phone number, notify business associates > and friends of the number change, or even modify business cards and > stationery. Don't understand the last part, the ESN is what needs to change, not the phone number, guess someone does not understand the difference. This is from a telco press release? > Why don't they start spending the money they spent on ECPA lobbying to > invent a more secure system?!?!?!? There are several means already available but since most involve some form of encryption they seem to be too dangerous for the public to have. With the PIN, the carriers can say they have done *something*. Cooly, Padgett ------------------------------ From: Chris Osburn Subject: Call Unblocking Now Available From US West (Seattle) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:06:00 PST Hooray for Pacific Northwest Bell, er, I mean US West (sigh). Last year when Caller ID was made available here, I immediately signed up for line blocking. The down side I had to accept was that my call would be refused by someone who didn't feel like taking a call from a faceless stranger. Starting 1 January 1995, US West tackled the problem with a (free!) call unblocking feature. I can dial *82 before the number and allow myself to be announced to the recipient when I feel the need. Kudos to US West for this feature. (Now I have to make sure it works....) cheers! Chris Osburn, chriso@asymetrix.com Seattle, Washington, USA ICBM: 47 42 58 N 122 16 41 W ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 95 09:57:42 EST From: ESSMAN <74656.557@compuserve.com> Subject: ANI Information in Realtime I currently have 800 service through AT&T and I receive ANI information with my bill once per month. I'd like to receive the ANI info real-time but no one at AT&T seems to know what I'm talking about. They keep asking me to go back to NYNEX to get Caller ID. When I explain that Caller ID and ANI are two different things, that's when the fun really starts. Anyone out there have any suggestions? Thanks, Eric Essman [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Even though ANI and Caller-ID are two separate things, the end result -- the number produced for your review -- is as often as not the same. With this in mind, at least one carrier providing 800 service *does* display in realtime the ANI of the calling party via the Caller-ID display unit. I've forgotten which company it is ... someone remind me. Maybe what AT&T is trying to tell you is that if you get Caller-ID from NYNEX you'll get the information you are seeking. Maybe ... I don't know. Maybe they are trying to say if you get a Calelr-ID display unit from someone, they (AT&T) will be in a position to send you the information. Any other guesses on this, anyone? PAT] ------------------------------ From: prj1@doc.ic.ac.uk (Piotr Roman Jarzynka) Subject: At&T MCI and Sprint E-mail Addresses Wanted Date: 10 Jan 1995 15:15:25 -0000 Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK. Reply-To: prj1@doc.ic.ac.uk (Piotr Roman Jarzynka) I'm looking for the AT&T, MCI, and Sprint e-mail addresses. Thanks a lot, prj1@doc.ic.ac.uk [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, considering all three of them run huge email networks of their own it should not be too hard to find out how to reach them. You might try 'postmaster@' att.com, mcimail.com and sprint.com for starters. You did not say what department, location or person you were seeking and that is going to be needed to properly send your mail. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #22 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa02010; 10 Jan 95 21:12 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA07003; Tue, 10 Jan 95 14:24:05 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA06994; Tue, 10 Jan 95 14:24:02 CST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 14:24:02 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501102024.AA06994@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #23 TELECOM Digest Tue, 10 Jan 95 14:24:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 23 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? (Wally Ritchie) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Michael Deignan) It is Legal to Modify Receivers (Ed Mitchell) Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Wayne Huffman) Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Gerald Serviss) 800 Numbers From Overseas (Robert Hall) Re: Cellular Phone Technology (Wally Ritchie) SS7 ISUP to SS7 TCAP Conversion (Fernando Vicuna) Planning to Purchase a Voice Mail System (Paul Hebert) Re: Video Servers (Wayne Huffman) Re: DQDB and SMDS (Fred R. Goldstein) Re: Source Code For Audio-Voice Modem Programming? (Russell Nelson) Biographies/Sketches of Our Participants (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Noise Introduced by Bit-Robbing? Date: 10 Jan 1995 14:34:39 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , Tim Gorman writes: > whs70@cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) writes in TELECOM Digest V15 #11: >>> In , naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian >>> Weisgerber) writes: >>>> What kind of noise/distortion does American-style bit-robbing cause to >>>> voice band signals transmitted through PCM channels? >>> In the U.S., most intermachine trunks are common channel direct >>> connections so only the robbed bit at each end of the IC/EC connection >>> introduces the robbed bit (as well as ny non CCS systems in the EC). >> Today, most end-to-end voice connections do not include any trunking >> which uses robbed bit signalling. The great majority of local >> trunking, especially in metro areas, has all been converted to CCS. >> One way to determine the probability of what type of local trunking is >> in your area is if caller ID is available. If you can have caller ID, >> then the local trunking is using CCS and thus no robbed bit signaling >> is involved at that end of any connection. > This is probably a little misleading. While the robbed bit signaling was for > use in per-trunk signaling for passing supervision information, merely > converting to SS7 signaling (i.e. making caller id available) doesn't > automatically make the robbed bits available. This also requires conversion > to B8ZS/ESF signaling. > I think you will find lots of places that have converted to SS7 still > have the older AMI/SF facilities in place thus limiting circuit bandwidth > to 56kb. Lets beat this horse one more time and see if we can keep him down for awhile :) 1. An end to end connection will be clear channel IF AND ONLY IF all transmission facilities (and switches) connected in tandem are clear channel. This includes the EC local loops, the EC/IC trunks, and the IC network (or the international equivalents). 2. T1 is clear channel ONLY if it is B8ZS. However, a B8ZS facility is NOT NECESSARILY clear channel. Any B8ZS facility that uses D4 or ESF signalling WILL NOT BE CLEAR CHANNEL on the channels that use D4 (AB) or ESF (ABCD) robbed bit signalling. (European E1's, on the other hand are always clear channel). 3. USING SS7 or any other CCS system does NOT IMPLY that AMI facilities cannot be used. The fast majority of EC/IC connections are AMI and therefor not clear channel EVEN WHEN SS#7 is used on the trunk group. The main reason for this is that the installed base of AMI trunking is just too large. There is no pressing need to replace all AMI facilities with B8ZS. CCS does not imply Clear Channel. Clear Channel, however, implies either CCS or other or some other form of signalling other than robbed bit. 4. The trend is to use B8ZS for new facilities. AMI facilities will be converted as necessary (not just for fun) to meet the demand for ISDN clear channel switched calls. There is no way to obtain any kind of T1 subscriber connection to an EC that does not use robbed bit signalling unless you count PRI (which is still a dream for the most part). 5. Even if ISDN were to eventually account for 50% of calls, there would still be no justification to replace existing AMI IC/EC facilities that are fine for the non-ISDN subscribers. A regulated carrier that tried to do this would be subject to charges that it was trying to inflate its rate base. 6. As a practical matter, you get clear channel ONLY with ISDN and only with bearer classes of service that are clear channel. Otherwise, the robbed bits is gonna get you unless you are extremely lucky. (Fortunately the effect is relatively small). 7. If I got ISDN, why would I be screwing around with modems anyway. To interwork is the only reason and that means I am coming from clear channel to the robbed bit world unless I'm very lucky (which I'm not). 8. Finally, an AMI intermachine channel, through not strictly clear channel (due to Zero Byte Suppression) is effectively clear channel for modem transmission when robbed bit is not used (i.e. CCS). This is because there is no need to ever transmit the signal level encoded by the zero octet. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 10 Jan 1995 14:34:14 GMT Organization: The Ace Tomato Company In article , Tony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) writes: > Of course if you really want to follow a cell call just get a DDI and > hook it up to your PC. The interesting thing is that the company that > sells the DDI will only release software with ESN capability to law > enforcement people. Makes you wonder doesn't it? Actually, the software that comes with every DDI has the capability of displaying ESNs. You just make a few minor software patches to the executable. Not that *I* would ever do such a thing, mind you. MD ------------------------------ From: Ed Mitchell Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 08:37:36 PST Subject: It is Legal to Modify Receivers Pat writes in reply to Bill Sohl's FAQ on Cellular and Cordless telephone monitoring: > Aside from what the Electronic Commuications Privacy Act says, the > Federal Communications Commission addresses the question of radios > which have been modified. Illegal modification (i.e. modification by > an unlicensed person) voids your FCC authority to operate the radio. Pat this is not true at all except for transmitters. You do not need a license to operate a receiver (If you have one, I'd like to see it!). You do not need any certification to modify a receiver. There are no laws prohibiting your own modification or maintenance of your own receiving equipment. The only thing that self-modification does is to void your warranty. If someone wishes to make modifications for any number of purposes, often legitimate and not merely for scanning illegal frequencies, there are many BBS, online services and Internet sites that have files on modifying nearly every radio or transmitters or transceiver ever built. In addition to the millions of existing scanners that receiver these frequencies, many will remember that the cellular frequencies were carved out of what had been television specturm (channels 71 to 83 of the UHF spectrum). Such televisions and VCRs (with built in tuners) continued to be sold until the late 1980s. Such TVs can very much be used to receive cellular frequencies by tuning with the fine tuning control through the old channels. Before it was illegal to do so, I did use a common TV to tune through and intercept cellular calls just to prove how silly was the then proposed prohibition on the sale of cellular recievers. Because estimates suggested there were over 100 million such tuners capable of receiving cellular phones coupled with the gradual phase in of digital networks, I believed then that the legislation concerning the sale of cellular receivers should have been declared moot. There are too many receivers out there now -- digital networks are being deployed now and their deployment will soon accelerate. New technology will obsolete the need for the legislation. Ed Mitchell edmitch@aol.com kf7vy@kf7vy.ampr.org tcp/ip packet net ------------------------------ From: whuffman@ix.netcom.com (Wayne Huffman) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Date: 10 Jan 1995 12:13:15 GMT Organization: Netcom In mjsutter@aol.com (Mjsutter) writes: > This is a good idea. However, it could be at odds with another good > idea which is that the cell ID that the caller is using be passed > through the cell switch to the tandem so tha the 911 database can use > the cell ID as an approximate location of the caller. In metro areas > the size of the cell would be very small indeed. Less that a year ago > a life would have most likely been saved in Rochester N.Y. if this > capability had been available. This reminds me of a time when I was an AT&T Account Executive working in my sales territory near the Capitol and Union Station in Washington, DC. I was about to be mugged outside a fast food place, and I dialed 911 from my (Bell Atlantic Mobile) cell phone. I was connected to the 911 dispatcher in Arlington, VA! They were able to connect me back to DC, but I was quite surprised to get Virginia, when I was in the middle of DC. I hope they can get this straightened out for good. Wayne Huffman [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: So when you reached the DC police did they respond in a timely manner to keep you from getting mugged? When they arrived, did they arrest you for bothering them? :) Were you able to identify the mugger? Did he by chance resemble Mayor Berry? :) How are things in Our Nation's [Drug Sales and Murder] Capitol these days, anyway? Did the mugger steal your cellular phone as well? PAT] ------------------------------ From: serviss@tazdevil.cig.mot.com (Gerald Serviss) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Date: 10 Jan 1995 17:02:19 GMT Organization: Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola In article , Mjsutter wrote: > Jim Conran writes: >> In addition, the FCC should require all cellular phones to be >> equipped to access the strongest cellular base station signal when 911 >> is called. Finally, the FCC should make the 911 provision an issue as >> it currently reconsiders cellular license renewal applications. > This is a good idea. However, it could be at odds with another good > idea which is that the cell ID that the caller is using be passed > through the cell switch to the tandem so tha the 911 database can use > the cell ID as an approximate location of the caller. In metro areas > the size of the cell would be very small indeed. Less that a year ago > a life would have most likely been saved in Rochester N.Y. if this > capability had been available. I theory, 911 access for cell phones is a good idea. The problem is reducing that theory to practice. Let's consider a metro area as the previous poster suggests. In our most dense operations that I am familiar with the smallest cell radius is 500 meters. This gives an area of 785,000 meters-square or about .25 miles-square. If you consider that in a metro area where this cell would be located is built up and that the average number of floors covering this area is just say four (source ... PFA) you have one square mile of area that this caller could be located in. Even if we include information on the sector of the origin of the call we are down to .33 or .16 square miles of area. Compare this to the typical 911 call from a land phone which can isolate the caller to a specific location (home, office, payphone ...) and you can see that the information that a cellular system can provide currently is hardly useful for delivering a 911 call to the proper dispatch center. In a suburban setting where there are lots of jurisdictions and cell placement and thus coverage is dictated by traffic patterns there are just as many problems. The use of the strongest signal is no guarantee of routing the call correctly, especially if you are in a building. The closet cell may have its line of site thru a wall and the next closet thru a window. In this case the location data is even less useful. Sure we could add GPS receivers and exact positioning information to the 25 million cell phones in use in the US, of course, you would also have to replace or modify all the fixed equipment in all the systems to use that information and the the air specs would have to be updated. And we thought that rolling out digital service was a hard problem to solve. It pales by comparison with this problem ;-) I think that the FCC exemption is based on good engineering and the realization that today we do not have the capability to locate the caller easily, if at all. Jerry Serviss Motorola Inc serviss@cig.mot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 22:41:29 HKT From: Mr Robert Hall Subject: 800 Numbers From Overseas Judith Oppenheimer and Ari Wuolle have both discussed the fact that it is now possible to access U.S. 800 numbers from international locations. Following Judith's dialing suggestions, I attempted to call a number of 800 numbers from Hong Kong. For example, I dialed: 011 International Access Code 1 Country Code for U.S. 800-555-1212 800 Directory Assistance The call appears to have been processed by the Hong Kong switch, but I get a recording in a very American voice telling me: "access to the 800 number you have dialed is not free when dialed from outside the United States. If you proceed with this call, you will be billed international direct dial rates for this call. If you do not wish to proceed with this call, hang up now". So, I wonder if the assumption that it's up to my local IDD provider to just turn on access to U.S. toll-free numbers is, in fact correct, or whether the U.S. 800 service provider has a say in the deal as well. Are there all of the usual tariff negotiations between the carriers? What about calls from the U.S. to other countries' toll-free numbers? Since Hong Kong is a small country and local calls are free, the use of 800 numbers here has been pretty much limited to accessing a particular foreign carrier's "home direct" service. For example, from within Hong Kong, I dial 800-1111 to get the AT&T "bong" to place calls charged to my AT&T card. If someone Stateside dials 011-852-800-1111 do they loop back to AT&T's "bong"? I'd be intersted to see this thread continue as there are some real business applications for my company with this. Thanks, Rob Hall Hong Kong ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Cellular Phone Technology Date: 10 Jan 1995 18:25:17 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , stanb@netcom.com (Stan Brown) writes: > Having recently acquired a cellular phone, I suddenly find > myself curious about how the systems operate. Could someone point me > to a good reference on the operation of cellular systems? I am > particularly interested in the technical side (not economics) of > roaming, and follow me. There was an FCC technical report describing the system. You might try fishing around gopher.fcc.gov. I do know that it was published in full in the federal register a few years back. You can probably sneakernet it from your local library. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: fvicuna@tandem.cl (Fernando Vicuna) Subject: SS7 ISUP to SS7 TCAP Conversion Date: 10 Jan 1995 10:01:41 -0300 I am looking for a provider of a solution to the following problem. There is a telephone switch that accepts SS7 ISUP signalling, and I have a computer that accepts SS7 CCITT TCAP signalling. Is there some kind of gateway that can translate the information provided by ISUP into a TCAP query? Do I have to look for a switch provider that has a Service Switching Point (SSP)? The interface I am looking for will be used to provide Intelligent Network Services. Does anybody have experience in IN? Thanks for your help. Fernando Vicuna fvicuna@tandem.cl ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 1995 11:18:32 -0500 From: Paul Hebert Subject: Planning to Purchase a Voice Mail System My company is doing research for selection of a voice mail system. We have presentations scheduled with Octel and Centigram. Would anyone have some technical or user related insight into these systems? We have an NEC 2400 switch. Any interface issues we should be aware of? Paul Hebert MARKEM Corp Keene, NH paul_hebert@markem.com ------------------------------ From: whuffman@ix.netcom.com (Wayne Huffman) Subject: Re: Video Servers Date: 10 Jan 1995 11:38:45 GMT Organization: Netcom In alwin@ec.ele.tue.nl (Alwin Mulder) writes: > I am a graduation student at the University of Technology at > Eindhoven, and I am working on a VOD project. I was wondering if > anybody could tell me where I could find some information on > video-server-systems. Are there any specific newsgroups and/or > WWW-pages? I have found a new publication that may be of help to you. It is called Interactive Week. It is new, but they have already had VOD articles. You can reach them at the following addresses: http://www.interactive-week.com or e-mail them at 72002.1567@compuserve.com. I don't work for then but I like the publication so far. Wayne Huffman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:14:55 -0500 From: Fred R. Goldstein Subject: Re: DQDB and SMDS From: KRISTOFF.BONNE@PIRESSYS.BELGACOM.RTTIPC.belgacom.be > Can anybody explain to me what the difference and/or connection is > between DQDB (Distributed-Queue dual-bus) and SMDS (Switched > Multi-Megabit Data Service). Interesting topic, since the two are easily confused. DQDB is a "Metropolitan Area Network" defined by IEEE 802.6. It provides for a cell-based (48-byte payload, similar to ATM) data transfer, shared media with arbitration (telco speeds, T1/E1/T3/E3/ SONET/SDH as intended PMDs), and a novel combination of MAC services. It has a "connectionless" service that resembles any LAN (long variable-length packets) and an "isochronous" service that resembles circuits (fixed-bandwidth channels). DQDB was invented by Australians (QPSX Comms. is its promoter) but never really caught on in a big way. SMDS is a connectionless packet-switched public network service developed by Bellcore. It uses E.164 (ISDN/telephone numbers) for addresses, allows long (9KB?) packets, etc. When SMDS was being invented, DQDB was hot, so Bellcore specified that the data link layer of SMDS would be the DQDB protocol. This is "SIP layer 2" and part of "SIP layer 3". Thus it is possible to implement SMDS using DQDB multiport bridges. This is done in some places. In effect, SMDS is a service that DQDB delivers using a subset of its capabilities. In American practice, most users do not accept DQDB's odd cell-based datalink, so SMDS now usually uses the "DXI" format, which maps SIP3 packets into HDLC frames. Some DQDB vestiges (packet header, trailer) remain but it's really just a packet service now. Fred R. Goldstein fgoldstein@bbn.com Bolt Beranek & Newman Inc. Cambridge MA USA +1 617 873 3850 ------------------------------ From: nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) Subject: Re: Source Code For Audio-Voice Modem Programming? Date: 10 Jan 1995 15:30:07 GMT Organization: Crynwr Software In article System Operator writes: > I'm looking for any sample or public domain source code used to > control an audio-voice (AT+FCLASS 8) modem used in any kind of > interactive application. > Any pointers to FTP sites, etc, would be appreciated. mgetty+sendfax works with ZyXEL (and possibly ZOOM and Rockwell-voice-chip) modems. It works on various unices -- I use it on Linux. Look for it on ftp.leo.org. russ http://www.crynwr.com/crynwr/nelson.html Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX) | What is thee doing about it? Potsdam, NY 13676 | What part of "Congress shall make no law" eludes Congress? ------------------------------ From: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor) Subject: Biographies/Sketches of Our Participants Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 14:00:00 CST The results to date have been pretty positive. Many of you have written to say you would like to see a section in the Telecom Archives for the biographies or 'thumbnail sketches' of the people who participate in this forum from day to day. So ... I've set it up. It is located in the Telecom Archives at lcs.mit.edu. It is *not* available to FTP/Gopher/WWW readers. It is only available/readable via the Telecom Archives Email Information Service with the PASSWORD command. You get the current password when your entry has been received, reviewed and installed. In other words, install your own, then you get to read the others. These items will not be published in the Digest. It will be up to you from time to time to get a new 'index' of the biographical files on line to select the ones you want to read. What would be appropriate? Your name, address and phone number if you wish to include it; a paragraph so so about your education and past or present employment; if you have published anything you might want to mention that as well. If you have a .signature file you are particularly proud of you can include that. Altogether, maybe 150-200 words or so in a couple paragraphs. Please note that a log of activity for the Telecom Archives Email Information Service is available to me on a daily basis; particularly of interest are those requests to the server which invoke the PASSWORD command. I'll send full instructions for accessing the biography files to each person who submits one, and remember, these are closed files available only to the people who wish to participate. Please report *any* abuses to my attention. By and large, snoopers, name-/list-gatherers won't have access. Send your submissions to 'ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu' -- not to the Digest. Thanks, PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #23 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa05631; 11 Jan 95 5:01 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20000; Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:38:07 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19993; Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:38:03 CST Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:38:03 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501110638.AA19993@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #24 TELECOM Digest Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:38:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 24 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson AT&T Enters Rochester NY Local Telephone Market (wegeng.XKeys@xerox.com) Gain Hits (Steven Hoga) Looking For ADPCM Test Vector Set (Mark Indovina) How to Keep Track of Calls on Busy (Caller ID on Busy)? (Pete Kruckenberg) Recent Movie with Telecom Theme (Benjamin L. Combee) Optus Cision in Australia (Iaen Cordell) Re: Cell Phone PINs (Steve Seydell) Re: Cell Phone PINs (Carl Oppedahl) Re: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd (coyne@thing1.cc.utexas.edu) Re: GSM in Canada? (John Scourias) Re: MANs in the US (Edward W. Bennett) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Tony Harminc) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:25:47 PST From: wegeng.XKeys@xerox.com Subject: AT&T Enters Rochester NY Local Telephone Market Several recent messages to the Digest have discussed the recent changes to the local telephone service regulations that allow for competition in the Rochester, Ny telephone market. The January 10, 1995 edition of the {Rochester Democrat & Chronicle} contains a full page ad from AT&T advertising that they are entering this market. For fun, I called the toll free number contained in the ad (1 800 716-4ATT) to learn more about what AT&T is offering. According to the AT&T rep that I spoke to, AT&T is reselling service provided by Rochester Telephone (or is it Frontier Communications? I`m confused). With AT&T service customers keep their same telephone numbers, but are billed by AT&T. AT&T`s current rates are essentially the same as Rochester Telephone`s, minus a 10% new customer discount that is garanteed to be good for at least three months. The AT&T rep didn`t know what the rates would be after the three month period, but suggested thay they would remain competitive. AT&T is offering most of the advanced services that Rochester Telephone offers, with voice mail being the most asked for missing service (again all of this is implemented by Rochester Tel and resold by AT&T). I also learned that there is no sign up fee through March 31. Other items of interest: When I dialed the toll free number the greeting identified that it was intended for Rochester AT&T customer service (so it may not work elsewhere). ANI displayed my calling number to the rep (I asked), but their database contained the wrong name/address (probably because I was assigned this number about a month ago, though it`s interesting that the number was not listed as "unassigned"). The rep was physically located in Missouri (I asked). It will be interest to see what other companies enter this market. I have heard rumors that NYNEX, other baby bells, etc. are watching things closely, but I have not heard of any other companies that have definite plans to join in the fun. Don Wegeng dlw.xkeys@xerox.com ------------------------------ From: steven_h2@verifone.com (STEVEN HIGA/HNL DQ) Subject: Gain Hits Date: 10 Jan 95 11:31:16 -1000 Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI I've been having a terrible time with a modem due to gain hits. I've used both a Consultronics TCS-500 and TAS101/Gemini Modem testers and discovered that this particulary modem can't seem to handle 1 dB gain hits. This has plagued me for awhile and unfortunately I don't know how to test for it. Both the new EIA/TIA TSB-37A and TSB-38 only define gain hits but does not specify rate, level, duration, or Bit Error Rate. Anybody know of a spec that covers gain hits, maybe IEEE, ANSI, others? ------------------------------ From: ep520mi@pts.mot.com (MARK INDOVINA) Subject: Looking For ADPCM Test Vector Set Organization: MOTOROLA, Strategic Semiconductor Operation, IC Tech Lab Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 01:21:02 GMT I'm looking for a copy of the test vectors for G.721, 32kbps Adaptive Differential Pulse Code Modulation (ADPCM). Was there a set available from Committee T1? Pointers, FTP sites? Thanks in advance, Mark A. Indovina, Principal Staff Engineer mark_indovina@pts.mot.com MOTOROLA Strategic Semiconductor Operation, IC Technology Laboratory Mail Stop 63, 1500 Gateway Boulevard, Boynton Beach, FL 33436-8292 USA phone: 1-407-364-2379, fax: 1-407-364-3904 ------------------------------ From: pete@dswi.com (Pete Kruckenberg) Subject: How to Keep Track of Calls on Busy (Caller ID on Busy)? Date: 10 Jan 1995 21:38:17 -0700 Organization: DahlinSmithWhite, Inc. I'm running a dial-up computer service, and I'd like to be able to keep track of how many people are getting busy signals when they dial, so I can respond by adding more lines. I've thought of a couple of ways of doing this, and wanted to know if any of them are do-able. The first one is easy, but might not be feasible. If I could get caller ID's on a busy line, I'd just add caller ID to the last line in the hunt group, then feed the caller ID via serial into the computer. Is caller ID on busy even feasible, and if so, does/will US West offer it? What do I need to get to make it work? Second option, if caller ID on busy is not available: get another line (again, last in hunt group), which would always be busy (I don't want it to ring and confuse the users), but would have call waiting and caller ID on call waiting, then just pipe the caller ID into the computer via serial. Again, does US West offer caller ID on call waiting, and what do I need to make it work? Final option: get a line (last in hunt group) which would never answer, put caller ID and a caller ID -> serial box on it. It'll ring, which might confuse the users, but at least it'll keep track of who's calling and how often, when the other lines are busy. If there are other, better ways of doing this, I'd appreciate your input. Thanks for your help. Pete Kruckenberg pete@dswi.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The way we did it for several years was to have telco send the count of busies. We had meters on each line which advanced each time a call was recieved on that line. We had a meter which advanced each time all incoming lines were busy. Having all lines busy of course is not the same as turning away additional calls; maybe there were none in the interim, maybe there were. For this we had a dedicated pair from the central office. Whenever the CO had to bounce a call due to all our lines busy (I think we had 100-125 incoming lines, most of which were 800 numbers in a hunt group, but maybe a dozen were local Chicago lines, and another dozen or so were 'ring-down' or 'tie-lines' which were terminated in the Automatic Call Distributor along with the 800 numbers) then the CO sent a pulse over that dedicated pair to a meter which kept track of those calls the CO bounced. We also kept track of 'lost calls'; those were the calls received in the queue in the ACD which were answered with a recording 'all positions are busy, please hold for an available position ...' and the calling party chose to hang up or disconnect prior to getting a live answer. The 'meter clerk' was a person on each shift whose job it was to read all the meters hourly, jot down the figures and prepare a report for management. There were also meters showing how many calls were taken by each position each hour. We generally averaged 600-800 calls per hour during the day and evening hours, and about 200-300 calls per hour during the overnight period, or about 13,000-14,000 calls per day. As I recall, we had fifteen positions, but only kept about ten of them staffed at any given time during the day, and just two or three staffed during the overnight hours. Everyone could see the backlog of calls waiting. If one or two calls were in the ACD queue waiting for a clerk position, then a small lamp on each console marked 'CW' would illuminate steadily. If three or four calls were in the queue, the same lamp would blink slowly. If there were five or six calls waiting, the same lamp would blink rapidly. If there were seven calls waiting, a large 100 watt red lightbulb mounted on the wall at the front of the room would illuminate. Eight or more calls waiting caused the red light to blink off and on. It did not happen too often, but when that red light started blinking and blinked for more than about a minute at a time, the shift supervisor would get up and go to a section of the room where some typists and filing clerks were working. With just a motion of his fingers, everyone knew what was needed; everyone would stop what they were doing and go into the other area and sit down at an idle position and start taking calls. They would stay there doing so until they were told to go back to their regular assignments. Every month or so the management would carefully scrutinize all the numbers produced by those meters, and use the information for staffing purposes, and to order additional lines installed by telco as needed. A simple solution for you might be to have a meter on the final line in the hunt group. Note the number of times every day that line is selected. If the number of times that line is selected is more than say, two or three times each day, then you probably have some callers getting busy signals. The other thing you can do is install a timer at the end of the line. It has to be wired in series through all the phones (you can use the A/A1 supervision pair in your modems for this purpose) so the timer will not start unless it has a connection all the way down the line; ie all phones have to be off hook. When all are off hook the timer starts; when any single line is available, the timer stops. At the end of the day you see how many minutes in total (god forbid hours in total!) all lines were engaged. Again, if it is more than some acceptable value, you need to add additional lines. PAT] ------------------------------ Subject: Recent Movie With Telecom Theme From: combee@prism.gatech.edu (Benjamin L. Combee) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 13:32:37 -0500 Organization: ROASF Atlanta Reply-To: combee@prism.gatech.edu Hello, TELECOM Digest. I recently saw the French film _Three Colors: Red_, and was reminded of it by a recent thread here on cordless phone snooping. This is an excellent movie, and it has several scenes of interest to the telecom fan. First, the opening credits to the movie are overlayed over a breathtaking first-person flythrough the telephone connection between two friends, and later in the film, a retired judge confesses to spying on his neighbors cordless phone conversations, even complaining about one guy with a Japanese phone he couldn't pick up. Ben Combee E-MAIL combee@prism.gatech.edu http://www.gatech.edu/acm/combee.html ------------------------------ From: iaenc@sydney.DIALix.oz.au (Iaen Cordell) Subject: Optus Vision in Australia Date: 11 Jan 1995 14:43:40 +1100 Organization: DIALix Services, Sydney, Australia. Following, for the information of all Optus staff, is a media release distributed this afternoon confirming Optus Vision's plans to compete in Pay TV and local calls. OPTUS VISION CONFIRMS PLAN TO DELIVER COMPETITION IN PAY TV AND LOCAL CALLS Optus Vision - the joint venture between Optus Communications, Continental Cablevision and Publishing and Broadcasting Limited - today confirmed its plan for delivering increased choice in telephony, pay television and interactive services over the most advanced broadband network of its kind in the world. The project will position Australia at the forefront of the world in delivering combined telephony and home entertainment services. The undoubted winners will be Australian customers as true competition in the local loop becomes a reality. Optus Vision also announced it will offer a powerful programming package of over 20 channels, including two movie channels, two sports channels and a wide variety of other channels from local and international sources. The movie channels are supported by a supply of movies from Warner Bros., Disney, MGM, Village Roadshow and New Regency. The sports channels will include major Australian sporting events as well as significant international sports sourced through ESPN International. Nine Network will provide programming expertise to these channels. The Optus Vision rollout plan will see the network passing approximately three (3) million households throughout Australia in the first four years starting with Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Capital expenditure associated with the project is estimated to be approximately $3 billion and the required funding for the venture is expected to be around $2 billion which will be provided by a combination of equity and debt. The joint venture will employ some 3,000 people. The network will showcase leading-edge technology and infrastructure which the communications industry elsewhere in the world is looking at introducing at the turn of the century. Technical and engineering planning has been under way for the last six months and construction will commence this month. A hybrid fibre-coaxial cable network will be deployed using both underground and overhead distribution systems. The network will be bi-directional and the first of its kind in the world to deliver phone calls to the home exclusively over a single fibre-coaxial system. Announcements are expected to be made soon on supply contracts for locally-manufactured fibre and coaxial cable. An Optus Vision spokesperson said major considerations in the decision to proceed with the joint venture included: - Finalisation of programming elements essential to driving market penetration; and - Clarification of the November 24 statement by Communications Minister, Michael Lee, on rules governing broadband networks, particularly in relation to Optus Vision's ability to manage access to its network on a commercial tariff basis, rather than incremental cost-based interconnect. This clarification was received via the draft Ministerial statement released on December 23 which followed extensive discussions with the Department of Communications and the Arts. The timeliness and scope of the statement were major factors in enabling Optus Vision to maintain momentum of its business activities through the Christmas-New Year period, a spokesperson for the joint venture said. One of the major public benefits of the Optus Vision joint venture will be the very real prospect of cheaper local phone calls being delivered on its fibre-coaxial network. The Optus Vision spokesperson said price reductions in local phone calls were long overdue for most Australians. According to figures compiled by AUSTEL and the Bureau of Transport and Communications Economics, compound annual growth of local phone call charges for the period 1981-1993 were in the vicinity of nine (9) per cent. "This is a direct result of there not being competition in the local loop. The real benefits of competition can be seen by the fact that in the same period the prices of international and national long distance calls fell by three (3) per cent and four (4) per cent respectively and fell by much more after Optus started operations in 1992. "Consumers directly connected to the Optus Vision network will see considerable reductions in their overall phone bills as we drive local call prices down, similar to what we have done with long distance prices over the last two years. "We have set aside capacity on the network for the development of educational and community based multimedia services and will be looking forward to working closely with government and community bodies to fully exploit the potential of our state of the art broadband network. This capacity alone is equivalent to capital investment in the vicinity of $100 million." The Optus Vision shareholding will be: - Optus Communications (47.5 per cent); - Continental Cablevision (47.5 per cent); and - Publishing and Broadcasting Limited (5 per cent). (Publishing and Broadcasting Limited has an option to increase its shareholding to 20 per cent. This option is exercisable at any time in the period up to July 1, 1997. If the option is exercised after March 1, 1995, the exercise price is the market value at the time.) ------------------------------ From: seydell@tenrec.cig.mot.com (Steve Seydell) Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:46:04 GMT Organization: Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson) writes: > Mark Smith Mercerville, NJ writes: >> The new effort combines a Personal Identification Number (PIN) code >> system recently pioneered by NYNEX Mobile Communications in New York >> City with a new Fraud Protection Zone technique developed by Bell >> Atlantic Mobile. > Sorry but I seem to be missing something here. If the PIN is sent in > the clear then anyone grabbing the cell phone number off the air will > also get the PIN. The PIN is sent as DTMF across the voice channel. The ESN and mobile ID are currently stolen by listening to the reverse signalling channel. It is technically possible to steal the PIN, but it will take some time for thiefs to catch up. The money saved by the telcos will easily cover the cost of purchasing and operating this feature. Motorola, Inc. Steven Seydell Cellular Infrastructure Group seydell@cig.mot.com ------------------------------ From: oppedahl@patents.com (Carl Oppedahl) Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 02:38:05 GMT Organization: Oppedahl & Larson In article padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson) writes: > Mark Smith Mercerville, NJ writes: >> BEDMINSTER, NJ, AND ORANGEBURG, NY -- Two of the nation's largest >> wireless carriers are teaming up in a unique program to prevent their >> customers from being victimized by criminals who steal cellular >> service. >> The new effort combines a Personal Identification Number (PIN) code >> system recently pioneered by NYNEX Mobile Communications in New York >> City with a new Fraud Protection Zone technique developed by Bell >> Atlantic Mobile. > Sorry but I seem to be missing something here. If the PIN is sent in > the clear then anyone grabbing the cell phone number off the air will > also get the PIN. >> In the rare instance that they are cloned, customers only need to call >> their home carrier and receive a new PIN to restore service. > Oh, I see, once a phone is compromised, and the customer gets the > bill, they can change the PIN and start all over again. True the > customer could deactivate/change the PIN daily (hourly?) but how many > will? How fast can the cloners react? > There are several means already available but since most involve some > form of encryption they seem to be too dangerous for the public to > have. With the PIN, the carriers can say they have done *something*. There was a rather exhaustive thread about this a couple of months ago in alt.dcom.telecom, as I recall. The ESN and phone number are transmitted unencrypted on the control channel. The cell site returns several items including instructions on which audio channel is to be used. The PIN code is conveyed unencrypted on the audio channe. Apparently the reason PIN codes help the cell carriers is that most of the phone-cloners are so dull and stupid that they can monitor the control channel but not also monitor the particular audio channel to which the call gets passed. I assume this will simply escalate the conflict. The cloners will either (1) pick an audio channel to monitor along with the control channel, and note down the pin number and esn that go together, or (2) wire up the receiver that is receiving the control data stream, to control the audio scanner channel changer. I was reading a book about the cellular system that was published eight years ago ... it identified the problem that if people copy down the ESN and phone number they could get free calls ... despite this the cellular industry moved ahead with the present system. Carl Oppedahl Oppedahl & Larson, patent law firm oppedahl@patents.com ------------------------------ From: coyne@thing1.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd Date: 10 Jan 1995 20:12:46 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas > Why don't they start spending the money they spent on ECPA lobbying to > invent a more secure system?!?!?!? The reason they dont invent a more secure system is that the bulk of the problem with the present system is designed in. The new system would have the same defective design feayures and would not help. Originally the electronic serial number was meant to be built in to the cell phones. It was not to be programmable even with a soldering iron. Sellers did not like this because the cell carriers charged a lot to make accounting changes so that it cost them to sell an upgrade or to issue a loaner. Sellers demanded and carriers aquiesed in programmable esn phones. Individual sellers have little clout but collectively they are a force to be reckoned with. Programmable esn are what makes cell fraud a cottage industry. Without them cloning a phone would be a fairly technical task and it would require some outboard parts. There would be many fewer people technically capable of cloning and most of them would have real jobs. In the absence a significant change in the relationship between sellers and carriers, any encryption based system would have fully programmable parameters. The new system would retain the problem feature, which is clonability. It would not give us releif it would only give a half time till cloners adjust the game plan. A new system should be non-clonable. It would also be helpful if carriers could program whatever needs programming with a secure link so that at least one puzzle piece is known only to the carrier. A puzzle piece known only to the consumer would be good too. That would stop guys who reprogram switches and steal numbers wholesale. As a side note: anti-theft systems for cars brought us little relief from car thefts. Thieves quit doing their work quietly in the middle of the night and went to car jacking. ------------------------------ From: jscouria@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (John Scourias) Subject: Re: GSM in Canada? Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 15:16:52 -0500 Reon_Can@mindlink.bc.ca (D. Matte) writes: > I have been doing some initial research on the development of the PCS > market in Canada. Recently some of the players that have received > licenses to test 1.9GHz systems have been touting GSM as the way to go > (Telezone & Microcell 1-2-1). If GSM is implemented would it mean > that users would not be able to make use of their terminals in the > U.S. as GSM is not likely to be adopted by the U.S. on a large scale? > It would seem to me that having a system that is compatible with our > largest trading partner would make for a more attractive service > offering. Hi Dan, The PCS systems that operate at 1.9GHz are a derivative of GSM. The actual GSM standard operates at the 900MHz range, and its 'brother' DCS-1800 operates at 1.8GHz. At least one of the proposals currently under consideration in the U.S. for a PCS involves a 1.9GHz derivative of GSM, so it is still too early to know whether GSM will or will not be implemented on a large scale in the U.S. Also, the GSM-900 and DCS-1800 systems have been standardized in Europe by ETSI. The 1.9GHz system, however, as far as I know, has NOT been standardized. Theoretically, it should be just like DCS-1800, but you never know what tweaks the Americans might put in. So, if the U.S. implements a 1.9GHz system, and Canada copies the same system, (I don't think vice-versa would apply here ...) then you _should_ be able to use a mobile phone across the border. Of course you are right in saying that mobility should extend beyond our borders. The principles of PCS of 'communication anywhere, anytime' would be violated if each country implements its own system. In this regard, I believe the Europeans are on the right track in coordinating their telecommunications research and development, as well as implementation, on a Europe-wide basis. Best regards, John Scourias Department of Computer Science University of Waterloo Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 jscourias@barrow.uwaterloo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:23:15 -0800 From: EDWARD W BENNETT Subject: Re: MANs in the US The company I work for, ATU Telecommunications (the LEC for Anchorage) just received regulatory approval for a MAN service. It's based on FDDI, but is time-division-multiplexed so that multiple customers can occupy the system. Bandwidth is available in 5 Mpbs segments; a 10 Mbps Ethernet LAN would thus need two of those channels. Total system payload is 100 Mbps and runs over dual survivable fiber optic rings; if demand warrants, a second 100 Mbps system can be added using lasers operating at a different frequency (color). One of the advantages of the system is that it can easily be carried by SONET/ATM in the future. We call the system ATLAS, for Anchorage Transparent LAN Service; it is based on a similar offering from U.S. West called TLS (Transparent LAN Service). Ed Bennett Sr. Communications Specialist ATU Telecommunications, Anchorage, Alaska Voice (907) 564-1742 JSEWB@acad1.alaska.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:17:49 EST From: Tony Harminc Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas From: Mr Robert Hall > The call appears to have been processed by the Hong Kong switch, but I > get a recording in a very American voice telling me: > "access to the 800 number you have dialed is not free when dialed from > outside the United States. If you proceed with this call, you will be > billed international direct dial rates for this call. If you do not > wish to proceed with this call, hang up now". > So, I wonder if the assumption that it's up to my local IDD provider > to just turn on access to U.S. toll-free numbers is, in fact correct, > or whether the U.S. 800 service provider has a say in the deal as > well. Are there all of the usual tariff negotiations between the > carriers? I've been wondering about overseas access to non-US NANP 800 numbers. What happens if you dial a Canadian 800 number this way? Is the overseas carrier actually doing an SS7 lookup to determine the carrier or are they just assuming that country code 1 = USA ? Sigh -- I can guess the answer. Could someone with a few pence to burn try a Canadian number that isn't reachable from the US, such as Bell Canada's Ontario business office line 800 668-2355 (or 800 NOT-BELL as I prefer to think of it)? I won't be surprised to hear that you get to pay for a call that says "the number you have dialed cannot be reached from your calling area". Tony Harminc ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #24 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa05901; 11 Jan 95 5:35 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20645; Wed, 11 Jan 95 01:18:35 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20638; Wed, 11 Jan 95 01:18:32 CST Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 01:18:32 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501110718.AA20638@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #25 TELECOM Digest Wed, 11 Jan 95 01:18:30 CST Volume 15 : Issue 25 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:28 EST From: dleibold@gvc.com (Dave Leibold) Subject: Canada Direct Access Numbers (dleibold note: Canada Direct operates similarly to many other "home direct" services in that special numbers in other countries allow access to operators in a home country. The arrangement is generally reciprocal in that there are also Canadian facilities (usually 800 service numbers) for reaching operators of other countries. Information is an unofficial transcript and is courtesy of Teleglobe, the Canadian-based international carrier, whose information is subject to correction or change.) Canada Direct The international access numbers to Canadian operators, as of November 1994: Canada Direct information within Canada - 1 800 561 8868 Legend: w - wait for 2nd dial tone % - country-to-country calling, where calls may also be placed to points within that country, and to most other countries (via the Canadian operator, charged according to two "legs": country-to-Canada, then Canada-to-other-country) [D] - service on dedicated phones displaying Canada Direct symbol [P] - only available at public payphones [K] - public phones require coin deposit or use of card Country Access Number ======= ====== ====== Andorra % [K] 19 w 0016 Anguilla [P] 1 800 744 2580 Antigua [P] 1 800 744 2580 Australia % 1 800 881 150 -or- 1 800 551 177 Austria [K] 022 903 013 Bahamas 1 800 463 0501 Bahrain 80 01 00 Barbados [P] 1 800 744 2580 Belgium % [K] 0800 1 0019 Belize 558 (Hotels) -or- *6 (payphones) Bermuda [P] 1 800 744 2580 Bolivia % [K] 0 800 0101 Brazil % 000 8014 Cayman Islands [P] 1 800 744 2580 Chile % 123 00 318 (replaces 00 w 0318) China (major cities) % 108 186 Colombia 980 19 0057 Costa Rica [K] 161 Croatia % 99 380 001 Cyprus [K] 080 900 12 Czech Republic % 00 42 000151 Denmark % [K] 80 01 00 11 Dominica [P] 1 800 744 2580 Dominican Republic 1 800 333 0111 Ecuador 173 Egypt % 365 3643 Fiji 004 890 1005 Finland % [K] 9800 1 0011 France % [K] 19 w 0016 Germany % [K] 01 3000 14 Greece % [K] 00 800 1611 Grenada [P] 1 800 744 2580 Guadeloupe 19 w 0016 Guam % 950 1604 Guatemala [K] 198 Guyana 0161 (in Georgetown, 161) Haiti 001 800 522 1055 Hong Kong % 800 1100 Hungary % [K] 00 800 01211 Iceland % [K] 999 010 India 000167 Indonesia [K] 00 801 16 Iran [D] Ireland % 1 800 555001 Israel % 177 105 2727 Italy % [K] 172 1001 Jamaica 800 222 0016 Japan [K] 0039 w 161 Jordan 18 800 962 Korea (south) [K] 009 0015 Liechtenstein % [K] 155 8330 Luxembourg % 0 800 0119 Macau % 0800 100 Malaysia % [K] 800 0017 Malta 0 800 890 150 Martinique 19 w 0016 Mauritius 73110 Mexico 95 800 010 1990 Monaco % [K] 19 w 0016 Montserrat [P] 1 800 744 2580 Morocco 00 211 0010 Netherlands % [K] 06 0229116 New Zealand 000919 Nicaragua % 168 Norway % [K] 800 19 111 Paraguay 008 13 800 Peru 199 Philippines % [K] 105 10 Poland % 00 104 800 118 Portugal % 05 017 1 226 Puerto Rico % 1 800 496 7123 Qatar % [D] Romania % 01 800 5000 Russia (Moscow only) 8 10 800 497 7233 Saint Kitts & Nevis [P] 1 800 744 2580 Saint Lucia [P] 1 800 744 2580 Saint Vincent [P] 1 800 744 2580 Saint-Barthelemy 19 w 0016 Saint-Martin 19 w 0016 San Marino % [K] 172 1001 Singapore 8000 100 100 Slovakia % 00 42 000151 South Africa % 0 800 99 0014 Spain % [K] 900 99 00 15 Sri Lanka 01 430077 (in Metro Colombo, 430077) Sweden % [K] 020 799015 Switzerland % [K] 155 8330 Taiwan % [K] 00 801 20012 Thailand % 001 999 15 1000 Trinidad & Tobago [D] Turkey % 00 800 16677 Turks & Caicos [P] 01 800 744 2580 Ukraine % 8 10 0 17 United Kingdom % 0800 89 0016 (British Telecom) Uruguay 000 419 Vatican City [K] 172 1001 Venezuela [K] 800 11100 Virgin Islands (British) [P] 1 800 744 2580 Virgin Islands (US) % 1 800 496 0008 Zambia % 00883 Zimbabwe (was 110897 - now deleted?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:14:36 -0800 From: scott@csustan.csustan.edu (Scott Falke) Subject: Ancient Party Lines In re your story about party-line entertainment: X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 15, Issue 11, Message 2 of 14 > When I was twelve years old, I had a friend who was the same age. We > had a private line but his parents had a four-party line. ^^ ^^^ ^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^ Should I even ask? My party-line story at age ~13 was -- At the time out community of ~1000 had its own little system (the 'switch' was a mechanical equivalent of a SLC96, I guess (a couple of bigger than b-box-sized aluminum cases at the North end of town hung on some poles and crossarms) and shared a PacBell office about 8 miles away in a town of ~10,000. There was one old repair/install guy who handled an area of probably 300 square miles, called 'Farmers Union Telephone' and I don't think you could get less than a 4-party line at any price. You'd have to wait a while for dial tone sometimes. I have a distinct vision of what seemed like 200 pairs of steel on a coupla-dozen crossarms per pole in front of Klint's market. Eight- and ten- party lines were the norm, and we shared an 8 with the school superindent's home. We rigged up a 600-ohm transformer with a bathtubp capcitor for DC blocking, (via military surplus from the town ham operator; I learned a lot from some ancient ARRL handbooks) and fed it into an old (5-watt?) PA amplifier with speaker in a home-made wood box. The superintendent (this was farming in Nor Calif) would spend hours interviewing new teachers for their first job away from Montana. Of course, once we figured out what was going on, we'd have the skinny on what was to come in the fall. My point in all this is that the party-line ringing was different from what you descibed as a multi-frequency mode. To the best of my memory, each set (WE 302s, maybe?) had a gas-filled tube and polarized pulsed-DC ring voltage. Then half the ringers were connected tip-gnd and ring-gnd. On 8- party your heard one ring or two; so: 2-polarties X 2-tip-ring X 2-ring-combos = 8. The ten-party groups had all kinds of odd long-long, long-short and short-short ring combinations. Thanks for sparking some childhood memories! Scott Falke Turlock CA [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The way you describe it was one way of doing the ringing; there were various methods. What happened on your system if you wanted to call someone on your party line? In the manual service era, if you inadvertently (or as a child, deliberatly sometimes, for the fun of it) asked the operator for your own number her answer would be without looking at where the call was coming from, 'the line is busy'. If you asked for someone on your party line, the response would be the same unless you told the operator in advance and tipped her off (the operators did not know who belonged to what party line, only that the line tested busy when they went to insert the plug). If you told her it was your party line, she would tell you to hang up so she could ring the line, and after one or two rings to pick up the phone again. She'd stay on the line and when the party answered tell them to hold on a few seconds until you lifted your receiver again. PAT] ------------------------------ From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 04:17:25 GMT wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) writes: > Today, I was in the airport that serves Atlanta, GA. I tried to place a > few 1-800 toll free calls, and had a lot of trouble. Numbers I know > to be good got responses of "invalid number". I'd reach for another pay > phone, and got thru to the number. I tried the same numbers later that > day (while getting hung up with the dead Newark airport mess) in the > Atlanta airport and got more "invalid number"; another attempt got me > thru, then I got cut off. Pay phones were labeled "PTC" (or something > like that) and also said that the local exchange didn't "own" these > phones. Some phones didnt work at all (bad keypads, or just dead). I > don't know who "PTC" is, but they really SUCK! Could it be that the numbers you were calling were not reachable from that area? Some 800 numbers specifically include or exclude certain states or regions. But then, you probably already thought of that. :-) Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com Certified NetWare Administrator (CNA) Oakland, California, USA CD-ROM Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) Phone: (510) 547-6647 Pager: (510) 308-1903 Fax: (510) 547-8002 ------------------------------ From: pbeker@netcom.com (Paul Beker) Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 06:45:33 GMT wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) writes: > [ . . . ] Pay phones were labeled "PTC" (or something > like that) and also said that the local exchange didn't "own" these > phones. Some phones didnt work at all (bad keypads, or just dead). I > don't know who "PTC" is, but they really SUCK! Yep ... several years ago every single pay phone in that airport was a *real* Southern Bell phone. Since then, the politicians and others (ever heard of the Atlanta Airport scandals / fiascos?) have gotten involved and now you will find a wide variety of worthless COCOTs scattered throughout the airport. One interesting trend I've noticed lately: While only a couple of months ago, all the COCOTs were pre-subscribed to some ripoff, switchless, IXC, it looks like most of them have suddenly been switched to AT&T. This is definately a good thing, for the many people that would be getting ripped off dialing 0+ otherwise ... I don't know why this happened; perhaps someone in Atlanta government actually decided to "clean things up". Also, I wonder what AT&T did to get this. And in a related note, all of the pay phones in the new (International) Concourse "E" are AT&T COCOTs! (In other words, the phones themselves are manufactured by AT&T and have "AT&T" stamped on them. They seem to be much better quality than your typical COCOT.) All of them are pre-subscribed to AT&T, of course ... Paul Beker - Atlanta, GA pbeker@netcom.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You wonder what AT&T had to do to get the account? Well I can tell you what Illinois Bell had to do to get the O'Hare Airport account a few years ago: when the newspapers exposed the city council members and Aviation Department employees who got the bribes and the IBT employees who paid the bribes, there was quite a stink for a short while, then everyone sort of forgot about it. PAT] ------------------------------ From: johnl@ctin.adelaide.edu.au (John Leske) Subject: Re: ISDN Over Wireless Date: 11 Jan 1995 03:40:28 GMT Organization: Centre for Telecommunications Information Networking Reply-To: johnl@ctin.adelaide.edu.au In article 17@eecs.nwu.edu, jenzler@olympus.net (Jared Enzler) writes: > I live in an area where the telephone co. shows no interest in > offering ISDN. But the area is well covered by cellular phone > systems. > Questions: There appear to be several varieties of digital cellular on > the way. Do any of these have the potential to offer ISDN? Which > ones? What sort of technical or other barriers are there to wireless > ISDN? The aim of digital cellular phones is to efficiently use the bandwidth available. Thus they have compression schemes to minimise the the data rate required to still reproduce acceptable quality voice at the other end. Next generation speech codecs are aiming for ~5kbit/s data rates -- a lot slower than ISDN. If your question relates to ISDN-like protocols, then yes it will be possible. For example the GSM design philosophy was based on ISDN. However the first data modems available present themselves as Hayes-compatible modems, because that is what all the software wants to see. John ------------------------------ From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 04:04:14 GMT mjsutter@aol.com (Mjsutter) writes: > Jim Conran writes: >> In addition, the FCC should require all cellular phones to be >> equipped to access the strongest cellular base station signal when 911 >> is called. Finally, the FCC should make the 911 provision an issue as >> it currently reconsiders cellular license renewal applications. > This is a good idea. However, it could be at odds with another good > idea which is that the cell ID that the caller is using be passed > through the cell switch to the tandem so tha the 911 database can use > the cell ID as an approximate location of the caller. In metro areas > the size of the cell would be very small indeed. Less that a year ago > a life would have most likely been saved in Rochester N.Y. if this > capability had been available. Recently I saw someone who appeared to be trying to steal a car, so, being a good citizen, I ducked around the corner out of sight and dialed 911 on my handheld cellular phone. Though I was standing on a street three blocks from San Francisco City Hall, I was connected to the California Highway Patrol. I waited several minutes for an operator to come on the line, and finally gave up. Good thing no one's life or safety was in danger. Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com Certified NetWare Administrator (CNA) Oakland, California, USA CD-ROM Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) Phone: (510) 547-6647 Pager: (510) 308-1903 Fax: (510) 547-8002 ------------------------------ From: pete@dswi.com (Pete Kruckenberg) Subject: Re: Computer Caller-ID Date: 10 Jan 1995 21:12:10 -0700 Organization: DahlinSmithWhite, Inc. Seymour Dupa (grumpy@en.com) wrote: > Thomas Fitzurka (LCRS73A@prodigy.com) wrote: >> Does anyone know of a software program that enables you to have your >> computer identify caller's phone numbers? I saw a movie called >> Brainscan that had a computer, using caller id, identify the caller >> and tell the person in an "igor" voice, which I perticularly liked, >> that "Bobby is calling master". The idea was really interesting to me >> and I would like to get something like it. > Rochell Communications has caller ID unit with a serial port that > feeds the caller id info to a serial port on a computer. They also > have a program that reads the computer's serial port, look if the > number has called before, and if so, diaplays the info. They are at > 800-542-8808 or 512-794-0088. I'd like to use something like this to detect calls when my phone is busy. Does anyone know if US West offers that service (Caller ID on attempts when the line is busy), and if so, what I'd need to get the number and put it into a serial port? Pete Kruckenberg pete@dswi.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Coincidentally! ... I just remembered this: a few days ago I got a call from someone in San Fransisco and guess what? His *entire number* showed up on my Caller-ID display. It looks like they are now starting to give it out, at least on an interstate basis. I initially missed his call, but when I came in a few minutes later and saw it on the display screen I called back right away. He was quite surprised that I got his number, and come to think of it now, so am I. PAT] ------------------------------ From: johnl@ctin.adelaide.edu.au (John Leske) Subject: Re: GSM SIM Implementation Date: 11 Jan 1995 03:28:51 GMT Organization: Centre for Telecommunications Information Networking Reply-To: johnl@ctin.adelaide.edu.au In article 6@eecs.nwu.edu, Robohn Scott writes: > Does anyone know how the SIM is implemented (i.e., PCMCIA card, SIMM, some > other standards-based approach, or proprietary?) How much information is > actually stored on it? Have there been any problems with it in practice? > How long has the SIM been available commercially? A very short reply to your questions: It is a Smartcard (ISO-7816). That is, a single chip micro with its own ROM, RAM and non-volatial storage. The specific implementation for GSM is defined in the GSM specs. There are multiple manufacturers of this card. The specific characterisitics vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. I believe some companies are looking at up to 16k or 32kbit on the chip. The GSM-related data lies in a sub-directory on the chip. There is an interesting article in the Telecom Archives ftp.funet.fi/pub/doc/telecom/phonecard/chips/How_chips_work (though this does mainly deal with Phonecards, it gives an intro) I have not read of any practical problems with the SIM cards in GSM. They have been in service since GSM began (1991 exhibition systems, 1992 commercial networks) My colleague who is working on new applications for GSM SIM cards is currently away on business, and has much of the information with him. If you are interested in more details I can chase him up when he returns later this week. John Leske Research Engineer Centre for Telecommunications Information Networking University of Adelaide [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well I don't know *whose* 'Telecom Archives' that would be; its not the one I maintain which is located at lcs.mit.edu; and I don't have the file mentioned. PAT] ------------------------------ From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Re: Need Profile of Teleport Communications Group Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 22:20:32 GMT Linli Zhao #8277 (lzhao@wellfleet.com) writes: > I need any information known about Teleport Communications Group (TCG). TCG is a local exchange carrier who competes with the regional Bell operating companies in certain metropolitan markets. You'll find their coin-operated public telephones in NYC subway stations, bus terminals, and airports. Unlike traditional COCOT units, these coin sets charge the same rate as the Bell-provided units, look just like the Bell-provided units, and, apparently, operate exactly the same way. They also offer local access services to businesses and large residential customers (entire appartment buildings) in New York. Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:57:39 +0800 From: boris@trillium.com (Boris Naydichev) Subject: Re: ETSI Standards - Where? ethgls@duna.ericsson.se (Gabor Lajos) wrote: > I am looking for ANY information about how to get ETSI (also pre-ETSI) > standards in any form (eg. hardcopy, CD-Rom, postcript file). > It can be an office from where I have to order, or an 'FTP site' or > anything. > I wrote 'FTP site' since I can't do real FTP to the outside world, only > that E-mail operated fake FTP is available for me. Thanks in advance. You can order ETSI documents from ETSI Publication: tel: +33 92 94 42 40 fax: +33 93 95 81 33 If you do not know ETS numbers, you should be able to order by names, they also have a catalog of ETSI publications available for distribution and their prices. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 15:23:14 -0500 From: ericp@ucg.com (Eric Paulak) Subject: Re: Calling 500 Numbers From Overseas > Who pays for the call? Is it the caller or the owner of the number? > If it is the caller, would I be charged for an international call if I > call someone who happens to be overseas at the time? It depends. If you haven't given a caller a pin number so that you will pay for it, the call will foot the bill. To prevent them from getting hit without knowing it, however, an AT&T message tells them that they are being connected to an international location and that international rates will apply. Eric Paulak The Center for Communications Management Information (301) 816-8950, ext. 327 11300 Rockville Pike, Suite 1100, Rockville, MD 20852 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #25 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa23631; 12 Jan 95 14:47 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22559; Thu, 12 Jan 95 07:20:31 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22551; Thu, 12 Jan 95 07:20:28 CST Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 07:20:28 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501121320.AA22551@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #26 TELECOM Digest Thu, 12 Jan 95 07:20:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 26 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson About the GIF Incident and Substitutes (Paul Robinson) GIF Unisys Response (Stephen Goodman) Changes in Hong Kong Dial Plan (Paul A. Lee) Problems Calling Zaire (Jonathan V. Bland) Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? (James Baker) Northern TeleCom Norstar Key System (Daniel Aharonoff) Voice Response Unit Question (Jim McCormack) Network Access Wanted in Kenosha, WI - 414 (Erick Bergquist) Sonet SDH DCC Information Wanted (Tom Engbersen) Digital Exchange Location Problem (Roni Levkovitz) Bellcore Standards Question (Craig Harris) 10-XXX Codes (Eric Paulak) "Jitter" as a Quantity (Joe Habermann) Wanted: NEC SMDR Software (Daniel Land) FCC BBS Invites Calls (Shaun Maher) Seeking Canadian Telco WWW Addresses (Helen Vanderheide) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Peter Campbell Smith) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Phil Ritter) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Mitch Greer) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Marko Ruokonen) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Robert Hall) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Clive Feather) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Colum Mylod) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Julian Thornhill) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:21:03 EST Subject: About the GIF Incident and Substitutes Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA From: Paul Robinson With the recent problems over the use of Unisys patented LZW compression in GIF files, there has been suggested people switch to JPEG format. Then someone else pointed out that IBM has a patent on the compression format that uses. Aparently both are the same algorithm. David Winfrey points out that the information on this is in rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/ news.answers/compression-faq/part[1-3]. (Rtfm was busy so I used the site "pit-manager" which is the old name for BLOOM-PICAYUNE.MIT.EDU. (Did you know any time you put any message on a big-7 Usenet group that has the phrase 'pit-manager' in it, RTFM sends you a nastygram telling you the name is now 'rtfm'? Even if you were to write, "I was a pit-manager in a casino," in a message.) Under current patent laws, if both patents do cover the same invention, if someone can figure out which one was invented later, the patent on that one can be overturned. Also, it may be possible to play one off against the other, e.g. if they want to fight over this, the other one can be used to argue the invalidity of theirs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:04 EST From: Stephen Goodman <0003945654@mcimail.com> Subject: GIF Unisys Response FYI -- this came in my e-mail today. Thought I would pass it along. Excerpt from ... EDUPAGE. Edupage, a summary of news items on information technology, is provided three times each week as a service by Educom -- a Washington, D.C.-based consortium of leading colleges and universities seeking to transform education through the use of information technology. UNISYS RELENTS ON PATENT INFRINGEMENT Unisys has backed down on its intention to extract license fees from software companies that use its patented approach to displaying graphics online. The Graphics Interchange Format, or GIF, is so popular, many software companies apparently thought the algorithm was in the public domain. Unisys now says it will seek fees only for newly created products that come out in 1995 or thereafter, and only from major for-profit software developers. (Chronicle of Higher Education 1/13/95 A20) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:28:34 -0500 From: Paul A. Lee Organization: Woolworth Corporation Subject: Changes in Hong Kong Dial Plan I've been getting inquiries from some of our international divisions about a change that's supposed to be coming soon in Hong Kong's dial plan and/or number plan -- something about adding a '2' at the beginning of the number. Can anyone provide me with details about the change? Does it affect only calls within Hong Kong, or will the dial string used to reach Hong Kong from other "countries" change, too? Paul A. Lee Voice 414 357-1409 Telecommunications Analyst FAX 414 357-1450 Woolworth Corporation CompuServe 70353,566 INTERNET <=PREFERRED ADDRESS* ------------------------------ From: OPS@ins.infonet.net Subject: Problems Calling Zaire Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:41:08 +1000 Organization: Viatel We are having trouble calling certain numbers in Zaire through Mercury. They will only recognize numbers going to city codes 12 and 222 (i.e. 24312 ... and 243222 ...). An example of the numbers we are dialing starts with 243884. We know that these numbers are valid as we can reach them when dialing through MCI. Mercury has said that they have the French Telco carry this traffic and that neither of them block any numbers going to Zaire. The progression of the responses that we have received from Mercury is that these numbers are invalid (untrue) and that these destination number can't exist (also untrue). I have proven these numbers to be valid with Mercury by conferencing them in on calls to the one of the destination numbers over MCI. After this was done, the technicians working on the fault said that the only way they could continue to work on this was by having the name and address of the destination number. We are unable to provide this information. I have spoken to a supervisor at Mercury who feels that this is an unreasonable request. We have been trying to resolve this problem since Dec 16th. Any input regarding this will be greatly appreciated. Feel free to respond to us directly or via the newsgroup. Jonathan V. Bland Viatel Operations ------------------------------ From: jbaker@halcyon.com (James Baker) Subject: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:59:03 -0800 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Is there still a technical reason for the two second delay at the beginning of a phone call? I understand that some old analog switches could be fooled into billing the call incorrectly or not at all if certain tones were present within the first two seconds of ringing. Thus the FCC requirements for auto answer stuff is to wait two seconds after ringing before answering the phone (or at leaset before sending any signals into the phone wires). I doubt any such switches are still in use so perhaps it is time to petition the FCC to remove this requirement from Part 68. BTW ... here is a rough calculation based on figures out of my head of the national cost of this old regulation still being on the books. Suppose 250 million people make an average of five calls a day to answering machines, auto-attendants etc. If you value the average person's time at $10 / hour the annual cost is about $7 million. I suspect the real figure is higher. James Baker Seattle, WA jbaker@halcyon.com ------------------------------ From: ilink@netcom.com (Daniel Aharonoff) Subject: Northern TeleCom Norstar Key System Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 23:19:11 GMT Would like to get some feedback on reliability, expandability, stability on a Norstar switch by Northern Telecom. We are also looking to get a voice-mail that would compliment that system. This is for a small company of about 30 employees with a high degree of voice-mail usage and support calls. Any suggestions or feedback is very much appreciated. Thanks, Daniel Aharonoff Please post to newsgroup and my personal account @ ilink@netcom.com E-Mail: ilink@netcom.com Home Page: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/il/ilink/infolink.html infoLink Communications ------------------------------ From: as965@yfn.ysu.edu (Jim McCormack) Subject: Voice Response Unit Question Date: 11 Jan 1995 13:27:06 GMT Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH Reply-To: as965@yfn.ysu.edu (Jim McCormack) I presently operate a voice/fax response unit using a 486 pc with analog phone lines directly connected to a Rhetorex voice board. The software and hardware I have is capable of being used with a PBX to do call transfers. I don't have a PBX but I was wondering if I could purchase a desktop phone which could be configured so that if a caller asks for my extension the voice response unit would transfer the call to the phone just like a PBX. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help. Jim McCormack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:30:50 CST From: Erick_Bergquist@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Erick Bergquist) Subject: Network Access Wanted in Kenosha, WI - 414 Hello, I am looking for a way to get network access in Kenosha, WI, even if it means getting my own direct 57.6k, T1 connection. There are no local net providers (besides the university and a BBS that offers email). I am looking into starting my own service, but lack the funds, and can't find enough people that are willing to do it right, and keep it going. If anyone knows of any service/provider that has local access, please let me know, or how much a T1, 57.6, would cost directly. I called many services/providers, and none offers decent local access, at high speed rates. Netcom is moving into the Madison/Milwaukee area, and I don't know if they will cover Kenosha locally. Kenosha is on the border of WI, and IL, on Lake Michigan. Right inbetween Chicago and Milwaukee. It seems to me that this area is being left out, as there are plenty of ways I can get access if I were located south or north of here. If you know of anything, contact me. Network access is kind of important to me, and I am seeking a stable connection. If you are in this area, and are also looking for access, then contact me, and maybe we can work on this problem together. Thanks for the Help!!! Erick Bergquist (Erick_Bergquist@EDTNG.Kenosha.WI.US) Computer Programmer/Analyst, Microcomputer Specialist, and such. ------------------------------ From: news@zurich.ibm.com Subject: Sonet SDH DCC Information Wanted Date: 11 Jan 1995 08:38:28 GMT Organization: IBM Research Zurich Reply-To: news@zurich.ibm.com In Sonet/SDH multiplexer and section overhead, there are the D1..D12 bytes, reserved for "network management and supervision". Can anyone shed some light on the data transmission protocol which governs these DCC channels? Is this (already?) standardized? If so which standard? Kind regards, Ton Engbersen ------------------------------ From: ielavkow@techunix.technion.ac.il (Levkovitz Roni) Subject: Digital Exchange Location Problem Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:29:44 GMT I am working on a project of finding the optimal location of digital exchanges that are connected by optical links. The problem is to minimize the cost of connecting new lines and maintaining the existing once. I have tried , in vain, to find references to other works on similar problems. It will be of great help if anybody can tell me where to look for such references. Thanks in advance, Ron Levkovitz ielavkow@tx.technion.ac.il ------------------------------ From: charris@coypu.cig.mot.com (Craig Harris) Subject: Bellcore Standards Question Date: 11 Jan 1995 16:19:36 GMT Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group Reply-To: charris@blue.cig.mot.com I am looking for any Bellcore specification on an idle T-1 channel. That is, if the channel is idle, would the T1 equipment send 01111111 or 10000000? Craig Harris email: charris@cig.mot.com Motorola Inc. Suite 1450 pager: +1-800-759-7243 pin 87119 777 108th Ave. NE office: +1-206-637-8054 Belluevue, WA 98004 mobile: +1-206-930-1029 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 00:05:55 -0500 From: ericp@ucg.com (Eric Paulak) Subject: 10-XXX Codes FYI If you're a hospital, university or hotel that is classified as an aggregator/reseller, and you just upgraged your PBX to deal with the new North American Numbering Plan, you may have just set yourself up for a legal nightmare. Here's why: According to a law that was passed in 1990, all aggregators must unblock their switches so that a caller can reach their long distance carrier of choice. What this required so that you wouldn't get stuck paying for the cost of the calls was that your switch had to pass through and differentiate calls that started with either 10-XXX-1 or calls that started with 10-XXX-0. If you could do this at the time the law was passed, you had to do it right then. If you could upgrade your switch for less than $15/station, you had to do this by Jan. 10, 1994. If it cost you more than $15/station, you have until April 17, 1997. And, if you upgraded your switch anytime prior to April 17, 1997, you had to offer access at that time. So, if you just went through an upgrade to be able to accomodate the new interchangeable area codes and the new expanded carrier identification codes (101-XXXX), you are now capable of allowing access to any long distance carrier, and you must do so or be subject to FCC fines. Another bit of information dealing with 10-XXX codes. The number of available carrier information codes with the 10-XXX format is down to around 20. At the present rate that format should expire sometime in February. At that time, the new format will be 101-XXXX. Eric Paulak The Center for Communications Management Information (301) 816-8950, ext. 327 11300 Rockville Pike, Suite 1100, Rockville, MD 20852 ------------------------------ From: haberman@i11.msi.umn.edu (Joe Habermann) Subject: "Jitter" as a Quantity Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 17:13:16 GMT I need a solid reference for "delay jitter" as quantity w.r.t. frames arrivals. Much of the material that I've read defines jitter as the variation interarrival times, but what I really want is a quantitative definition that's effectively "the jitter for two event arrivals is difference between the expected and observed interarrival times." I found an example of the use of "jitter" as a quantity recently in a paper that I was reading: ".. The conference origination application delivers frames to the network adapter at an aggregrate rate of 1 frame every 33 seconds (with a measured jitter of +- 2 ms)." But the paper does not define jitter. It's obvious what is meant, but I really need a solid definition from a solid source. Thanks, Joe Habermann / haberman@msi.umn.edu ------------------------------ From: dland@cks.ssd.k12.wa.us (Daniel Land) Subject: Wanted NEC SMDR Software Date: 11 Jan 1995 10:39:04 -0800 Wanted: PC Software for capturing SMDR output from a NEC NEAX2400 IMS PBX rs232 port -- Software Needed - Free or Low Cost Does anyone have some PC (maybe even Windows) based software to capture the SMDR output from this model of NEC PBX. Please respond by e-mail if possible. Thank you, Daniel H. Land* Seattle Public Schools voice (206) 298-7599 mailstop AF-334 fax (206) 298-7505 4141 Fourth Avenue South net dland@cks.ssd.k12.wa.us Seattle, WA 98134-2309 ------------------------------ From: fcclaw@cais.cais.com (Smithwick-Belendiuk) Subject: FCC BBS Invites Calls Date: 11 Jan 1995 20:52:32 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 Smithwick & Belendiuk, P.C., a Washington area communications law firm, offers a free Bulletin Board System - "FCC WORLD." FCC WORLD maintains FCC libraries of files, updated daily, Forums on FCC issues and Classifieds Ads for the communications industries. The service is free and has no time limit with two lines in service. Try FCC WORLD at 202-887-5718 today! Shaun Maher Sysop - FCC WORLD fcclaw@cais.com ------------------------------ From: hvanderh@edtel.alta.net (Helen Vanderheide) Subject: Seeking Canadian Telco WWW Addresses Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:22:37 MST Organization: ED TEL Does anyone know where I can get WWW addresses of companies like: - Bell Canada - BCE - Northern Telecom - Mobility Canada - CANTEL Thanks in advance to anyone that can help. Helen Vanderheide ED TEL, Information Services Email: hvanderh@edtel.alta.net Voice: 403-441-7877 Fax: 403-424-8312 ------------------------------ From: campbellp@logica.com (Peter Campbell Smith) Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Organization: Logica, London Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 11:35:01 GMT In article Tony Harminc writes: > What happens if you dial a Canadian 800 number this way? Is the > overseas carrier actually doing an SS7 lookup to determine the carrier > or are they just assuming that country code 1 = USA ? Sigh -- I can > guess the answer. Could someone with a few pence to burn try a > Canadian number that isn't reachable from the US, such as Bell > Canada's Ontario business office line 800 668-2355 (or 800 NOT-BELL as > I prefer to think of it)? > I won't be surprised to hear that you get to pay for a call that says > "the number you have dialed cannot be reached from your calling area" From the UK you first get the recording saying that if the call is answered you will have to pay for it, then a few rings, then a recording saying that the 800 number you have called is not available where you are calling from, ending with the words '702 7'. I have no way of telling whether I was actually charged for the call, though a non-800 call that gets to North America but ends with an American recording (such as the number you have dialed is not in service) is not billed. One might think that 702 was where my call 'landed' in North America, but according to my (possibly out of date) list it is Nevada, which seems somewhat unlikely. I know international calling used to be a bit of a gamble ... Peter Campbell Smith, Logica, London, UK mailto: campbellp@logica.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well I have called 800 numbers which were not in service and wound up getting intercept messages from the geographical area code where the 800 service had been located, such as 'the number you dialed is not in service, 312, etcetera ..' ------------------------------ From: pritter@nit.AirTouch.COM (Phil Ritter) Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Organization: AirTouch Cellular, Los Angeles Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:46:09 GMT In article Mr Robert Hall writes: > Judith Oppenheimer and Ari Wuolle have both discussed the fact that it > is now possible to access U.S. 800 numbers from international locations. > Following Judith's dialing suggestions, I attempted to call a number > of 800 numbers from Hong Kong. For example, I dialed: > 011 International Access Code > 1 Country Code for U.S. > 800-555-1212 800 Directory Assistance > The call appears to have been processed by the Hong Kong switch, but I > get a recording in a very American voice telling me: > "access to the 800 number you have dialed is not free when dialed from > outside the United States. If you proceed with this call, you will be > billed international direct dial rates for this call. If you do not > wish to proceed with this call, hang up now". I also wonder how the billing is handled on the US side. Since the carrier is receiving revenue for this call on the originating side, do they still bill the 800 number owner (the terminating party) for the calls? If they don't, how do they differentiate these calls. If they do, it sounds like the IXC has their hands in both parties pockets. Not a bad deal (for the carrier, that is). Sure explains the incentive to open up 800 for IDDD! Phil Ritter pritter@la.airtouch.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think the caller is billed for the portion of the call from his country to the gateway in the USA where the carrier's switch is located, and the USA recipeient of the call is billed for the USA portion only, same as before. When we first discussed this a couple years ago, when AT&T was handling international calls to 800 numbers via their USA Direct program, didn't we discover that the international caller was billed for a call to Pittsburgh, PA at an AT&T office there, and the USA party got billed for an 800 call from Pittsburgh to wherever they were? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Mitch Greer@data.InterServ.Com Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Date: 11 Jan 1995 20:51:27 GMT Organization: DCLU - City of Seattle > I've been wondering about overseas access to non-US NANP 800 numbers. > What happens if you dial a Canadian 800 number this way? > Could someone with a few pence to burn try a > Canadian number that isn't reachable from the US, such as Bell > Canada's Ontario business office line 800 668-2355 (or 800 NOT-BELL as > I prefer to think of it)? > I won't be surprised to hear that you get to pay for a call that says > "the number you have dialed cannot be reached from your calling area". I tried and was turned back from the local switch with: "You have reached a number that is disconnected or no longer in service. If you feel that you've reached this recording in error..." I'm in range of Canadian TV from Vancouver and just for giggles I occasionally try a Canadian 800 and I always get turned back with that recording. The last time I was in Vancouver I tried calling a friend's 800 number in Los Angeles from a coin phone and was turned back with a recording from the 206 area code. Mitch ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jan 95 15:22:16 EST From: Marko Ruokonen <100031.31@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Here's what I have found out about dialing US 800 numbers from Germany by ISDN and by GSM (D1-Telekom): First, I tried 001-800-555-1212 (00 international access code, 1 CC for US): ISDN: tri-tone, "Keine Verbindung unter dieser Vorwahl". (Translation: "No connection by this area code") GSM: German ringing tone, then the anouncement "Leider ist uns diese Rufnummer nicht bekannt. Am besten fragen Sie bei der Auskunft nach.- We are afraid we have no record of this number. Please call the information service". (Note: there is NO tri-tone with the announcement). Then, I tried just 001-800: ISDN: same as above. GSM: (after a looong delay, 20 sec.): "Die von Ihnen gewahlte Rufnummer ist unvollstandig. Bitte rufen Sie die Auskunft an.", translation (not in the announcement): "The number you have dialed is incomplete. Please call directory assistance". Note: Dialing just 001 on the GSM results in the "incomplete" message, but only after five seconds. Makes me wonder what is going on in the switch when someone dials 001-800. I do not think this is a timeout situation, since on the GSM phone I have to enter the number and press "SEND" to place the call and it is not possible to append numbers after SEND has been pressed. Marko Ruokonen 100031.31@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 09:55:05 HKT From: Mr Robert Hall Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Tony Harminc wrote: > I've been wondering about overseas access to non-US NANP 800 numbers. > What happens if you dial a Canadian 800 number this way? Is the > overseas carrier actually doing an SS7 lookup to determine the carrier > or are they just assuming that country code 1 = USA ? Sigh -- I can > guess the answer. Could someone with a few pence to burn try a > Canadian number that isn't reachable from the US, such as Bell > Canada's Ontario business office line 800 668-2355 (or 800 NOT-BELL as > I prefer to think of it)? > I won't be surprised to hear that you get to pay for a call that says > "the number you have dialed cannot be reached from your calling area". Tony: I tried dialing the NOT BELL number. Received my same message ("you'll have to pay for this call"). Waited on the line after the message, but the line was cut. Something somewhere isn't working, even if I stay on the line indicating that I will pay IDD charges! Regards, Rob Hall ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:57:35 -0500 Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas The call being completed with the message "this is not a free call" are being done by Sprint. Judith Oppenheimer ------------------------------ Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 09:41:05 GMT From: Clive D.W. Feather Quoth Tony Harminc: > I've been wondering about overseas access to non-US NANP 800 numbers. > What happens if you dial a Canadian 800 number this way? > Could someone with a few pence to burn try a > Canadian number that isn't reachable from the US, such as Bell > Canada's Ontario business office line 800 668-2355 I got the above message (though with slightly different wording) referring to the United States, followed by ringing. I then hung up. Clive D.W. Feather | Santa Cruz Operation clive@sco.com | Croxley Centre Phone: +44 1923 813541 | Hatters Lane, Watford Fax: +44 1923 813811 | WD1 8YN, United Kingdom ------------------------------ From: cmylod@nl.oracle.com (Colum Mylod) Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Date: 12 Jan 1995 10:32:26 GMT Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Tony Harminc (EL406045@BROWNVM.brown.edu) wrote: > I've been wondering about overseas access to non-US NANP 800 numbers. > What happens if you dial a Canadian 800 number this way? [...] > Canada's Ontario business office line 800 668-2355 (or 800 NOT-BELL as Caling from +44 land: "access to the 800 number you have dialed is not free from outside the United States..." etc, i.e. the (now) usual disclaimer before the number rings. I hung up on the first subsequent ring. Sorry Canada, you've been annexed. PS: Access to +1 800 is still blocked from other European countries. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:16:32 GMT From: jth@ion.le.ac.uk (Julian Thornhill) Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas > I've been wondering about overseas access to non-US NANP 800 numbers. > What happens if you dial a Canadian 800 number this way? > I won't be surprised to hear that you get to pay for a call that says > "the number you have dialed cannot be reached from your calling area". Well I just tried it from the UK via British Telecom and got the usual message "800 numbers from outside the **US** are not free ..." and then I got the ringing tone, so I guess it works. Didn't stay on the line to see who answered though! Regards, Julian Thornhill Email to jth@ion.le.ac.uk Physics Department Tel 0116 2523566 FAX 0116 2523555 Leicester University +44-116-2523566 (international) University Road Leicester LE1 7RH ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #26 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa25955; 12 Jan 95 19:26 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA02021; Thu, 12 Jan 95 13:12:13 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA02014; Thu, 12 Jan 95 13:12:10 CST Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 13:12:10 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501121912.AA02014@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #27 TELECOM Digest Thu, 12 Jan 95 13:12:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 27 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Cell Phone PINs (Jeffrey Mattox) Re: Cell Phone PINs (Matthew P. Downs) Re: Cell Phone PINs (Alan Boritz) Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly (K Gooding) Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly (G Hlavenka) Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? (James M. Roden) Re: Need an EBCDIC Spec (Paul Robinson) Re: SNA Over Token Ring (Paul Robinson) Re: Some Questions About the LDDS Calling Card (sm@infinet.com) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Bob Keller) Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code (Daniel Fandrich) Re: Urgent Help Needed With European Phone System (Wolf Paul) Re: Is TeleScript Already Available? (Michael Libes) Last Laugh: Speaking About Who is Boss (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff@cher.heurikon.com (Jeffrey Mattox) Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs Date: 11 Jan 1995 16:42:08 GMT Organization: Heurikon Corporation In article , Carl Oppedahl wrote: > I was reading a book about the cellular system that was published > eight years ago ... it identified the problem that if people copy down > the ESN and phone number they could get free calls ... despite this > the cellular industry moved ahead with the present system. Somewhere, the person(s) that made the design/political decisions to implement the system this horrible way are watching. They probalby even have cellular phones themselves. I wonder what they are thinking. "Gosh, I was a dumb so-an-so for ..." I wonder if it's the same guy who invented the VCR programming scheme -- in which case he's probably more of the mind to be laughing at the mess he's created. Jeffrey Mattox -- jeff@heurikon.com ------------------------------ From: mpd@adc.com (Matthew P. Downs) Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs Date: 11 Jan 1995 16:47:50 GMT Organization: ADC Telecommunications seydell@tenrec.cig.mot.com (Steve Seydell) writes: > padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson) writes: >> Sorry but I seem to be missing something here. If the PIN is sent in >> the clear then anyone grabbing the cell phone number off the air will >> also get the PIN. > The PIN is sent as DTMF across the voice channel. The ESN and mobile > ID are currently stolen by listening to the reverse signalling > channel. It is technically possible to steal the PIN, but it will > take some time for thiefs to catch up. The money saved by the telcos > will easily cover the cost of purchasing and operating this feature. Determining DTMF tones is very easy. It seems like they could come up with a better method which would be as cheap. Matt ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.uu.net (Alan Boritz) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 21:35:20 EST Organization: Harry's Place - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861 seydell@tenrec.cig.mot.com (Steve Seydell) writes: >> Sorry but I seem to be missing something here. If the PIN is sent in >> the clear then anyone grabbing the cell phone number off the air will >> also get the PIN. > The PIN is sent as DTMF across the voice channel. The ESN and mobile > ID are currently stolen by listening to the reverse signalling > channel. It is technically possible to steal the PIN, but it will > take some time for thiefs to catch up. The money saved by the telcos > will easily cover the cost of purchasing and operating this feature. CellularOne, in the New York City area, seems to have no concern about this issue. Their "pin" numbers aren't required if you roam outside your home area (even for NYC area customers roaming in southern New Jersey). It would seem that while exposing their NYC roamer customers to potential fraud, they have not implemented their fraud-protection system in such a way to protect their home customers from fraud while roaming. ------------------------------ From: impact Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Date: 11 Jan 1995 19:27:03 GMT Organization: CompuTech >> Today, I was in the airport that serves Atlanta, GA. I tried to place a >> few 1-800 toll free calls, and had a lot of trouble. Numbers I know >> to be good got responses of "invalid number". I'd reach for another pay >> phone, and got thru to the number. I tried the same numbers later that >> day (while getting hung up with the dead Newark airport mess) in the >> Atlanta airport and got more "invalid number"; another attempt got me >> thru, then I got cut off. Pay phones were labeled "PTC" (or something >> like that) and also said that the local exchange didn't "own" these >> phones. Some phones didnt work at all (bad keypads, or just dead). I >> don't know who "PTC" is, but they really SUCK! When I worked as an operator for an AOS, we had many many reports of payphones that would not complete toll-free calls, as well as those that would actually CHARGE the end-user for a toll-free call. My understanding is that the COCOT owner has the ability to program that phone any way that s/he sees fit, be it legal or not. Let's face it, if you're using that phone for a toll-free call, the phone owner is making no money from coin or card paid calls... Katherine Gooding ITC Teleservices - LDDSMetromedia - What? Now WilTel too? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes you are correct that the person with the admin passcode can program the COCOT however s/he sees fit ... as you put it, legal or not ... and I will add, usually not. Now, we are expected to have sympathy for the poor person who owns the phone and is making no money during the time we are making our toll-free call. Well, that's just another example of how intricately the phone network is locked together. The way we *used* to do it was to have all pay phones owned by the telco. The telco in turn was part of a process at AT&T called 'separations and settlements' ... where telcos were paid for their share of traffic over internetwork facilities where they did not actually collect the money from the user. In turn, a portion of what they actually collected went into the pot to pay the other telcos involved. Gee, that method worked great for several decades ... then Judge Greene decided things needed to be fixed and changed. Now instead of separations and settlements done in a uniform way, every COCOT owner does his own thing with the public phone user being damned. PAT] ------------------------------ From: cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka) Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Organization: Vpnet - Your FREE link to the Internet (708)833-8126 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 04:46:39 GMT wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) writes: > Today, I was in the airport that serves Atlanta, GA. I tried to place a > few 1-800 toll free calls, and had a lot of trouble. Numbers I know > to be good got responses of "invalid number". Andrew Laurence wrote: > Could it be that the numbers you were calling were not reachable from > that area? Some 800 numbers specifically include or exclude certain > states or regions. Recently I ran across a payphone in Oakbrook Terrace, IL which wanted fifty cents to reach an 800 number! Made me wish I had a tow rope in the truck :-) Payphone owners receive no revenues from 800 calls. Hence I'd imagine that they don't rate 800-access problems very high on their list of priorities. Gordon S. Hlavenka cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us ------------------------------ From: jmroden@crl.com (James M. Roden) Subject: Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? Date: 11 Jan 1995 21:47:49 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Linc Madison (LincMad@netcom.com) wrote: > In some of the recent discussions of the swarm of new area codes > coming this year, I've seen notations that the wireless companies are > challenging plans to move wireless services (cellular, beepers, etc.) > into an overlay area code. The challenges are being made to the state > regulators and/or to the FCC. > My question is, on what grounds are they challenging the overlays? It > seems to me that the tariffs have always been pretty clear that the > telco does not in any way guarantee that you will be able to keep a > given number or area code. The real reason wireless (read cellular) carriers do not want to switch their entire customer base to another NPA is (think about this) _EVERY_ customer phone would have to be reprogrammed with the new NPA number. Going forward is one thing. Changing the base is quite another. Mike Roden / N5FL / jmroden@crl.com / San Antonio, Texas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:08:00 EST Subject: Re: Need an EBCDIC Spec Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA From: Paul Robinson The specifications for EBCDIC are available in many IBM 370 Mainframe publications, as IBM is the inventor and primary user for the EBCDIC specification. If you have a college near you that has an IBM or equivalent mainframe and still teaches assembly language, their book store should have the Gold Card, which is a small pamphlet listing various assembly instructions and a list of the EBCDIC character set and the translation of the equivalent to ASCII. Most programming manuals for IBM Mainframe languages will include it, and if your local university or college has books on IBM mainframe themes, one of them will probably include a listing of the translation table, which is in the public domain. You may also want to take a look at: ds.internic.net:/rfc/rfc1345.txt Which contains a list of many character sets, and will probably include the listing for EBCDIC. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:16:36 EST Subject: Re: SNA Over Token Ring Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA From: Paul Robinson Timothy S. Chaffee , writes: > I am looking into moving our print traffic from a SDLC/SNA > connection to run over our Token Ring network. Can this be done? Any > pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! There is a company -- the name escapes me -- selling a product called the "Hydra" which connnects in place of a terminal controller, and allows RS232 connections to look like 3270 terminals, allowing a person on a PC or a modem to call into an SNA terminal network as if their terminal WAS a 3270 terminal. If they can do this, they probably have something that will do what you want. Also, Black Box (someone here will have their number) has a statement in their catalog that if you can describe to them a box to do a protocol conversion they will see if they can find one if they have it, or will quote you a price to create it if they don't have it and their engineers can figure out how to make one. Considering the number of nice printers including postscript and laser that are out, I wouldn't be surprised if a device like this isn't already out there for sale, probably around $2-3000, or roughly whatever an internetwork device to connect SNA networks would cost, which I'm not really familiar with. ------------------------------ From: sm@infinet.com (SM Communications And Marketing) Subject: Re: Some Questions About the LDDS Calling Card Date: 11 Jan 1995 19:15:27 -0500 Organization: InfiNet - Internet Access (614/224-3410) In article , Yeechang Lee wrote: > Well, I got the fabled LDDS calling card in the mail. You know, the > one its salesmen annoy people in every newsgroup with ads about? It > _is_ supposed to have much better rates than my AT&T or Sprint cards, > and I guess I'll find out as soon as I need to use it. Yes it does and you'll see it when you use it and receive your bill. It is only 17.5 cents per minute and no surcharges. > Anyway, a few questions: > a) All I got in my envelope was the card (in a paper carrier). No > brochure w/rates or anything. I sorta know the rates but would have > liked a paper reference. Was there something missing? You could ask the sales person who sent you the application to send you a printed brochure. They have a nice brochure/order from that describes everything about the calling card. > b) My card has the logo of "American Travel Network" on the > upper-right-hand side. I also hear "Metromedia" associated with the > LDDS name, but it doesn't appear on the card. Who's ATN, are there > different versions of the card, and if so are there different rates? ATN is American Travel Network. They are the resellers of LDDS/Metromedia service. They are marketing the calling card and discount residential and business services. However, the billing is done by LDDS/Metromedia. LDDS and Metromedia were two different companies before, they merged (I think) September 1993 and formed the new company called LDDS/Metromedia. However sometimes you can see just LDDS or just Metromedia being used. (I am not sure about this but they may have some old stock supplies to finish!) :-) There are no versions of the card. It is one calling card with 17.5 cents rate. The rate would the same no matter which representative you get it from of directly from ATN. However, note that you cannot get the card directly from LDDS/Metromedia! since ATN is created this program and they have special conract with LDDS/Metromedia to market at this rate. LDDS/Metromedia does not market at that rate! Metin e-mail: sm@infinet.com Europe Frm $0.35 | FREE calling card, 17.5 cents, no surcharge. India $0.99 | Flat rate LD: As low as 10 cents per minute! Asia Frm $0.45 |***Free*800*service*as low as 12.5 cents flat rate*** Middle East Frm $0.89| Credit Card Merchant | Save 50-90% off your S.America Frm $0.75 | Accounts. As low as 1.65% | International Calls. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Sometimes I delete .signatures and obvious advertisements; sometimes not ... usually I do, but I saw this fellow's thing above and it reminded me of when I used to do Orange Card here ... as you who signed up through me will recall, Orange is still another of the resellers of LDDS. I hope *he* makes some money at it ... :) I still get my Orange Card residual checks every month, as pitiful as they are, now a couple years after getting involved. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:50:46 EST From: Bob Keller Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Hi Pat, > Most readers have been following this thread in the Digest in recent > days. Bill Sohl has written a final response on the topic, in which > he summarizes FCC regulations and responds to comments made by myself > in recent issues. I have _not_ been following the thread closely due to press of other business, but I could not resist agreeing with you and disagreeing with Mr. Sohl on one point ... > You (PAT) said: >> Aside from what the Electronic Communications Privacy Act says, the >> Federal Communications Commission addresses the question of radios >> which have been modified. Illegal modification (i.e. modification >> by an unlicensed person) voids your FCC authority to operate the >> radio. > Sorry, that is absolutely false. The FCC part 15 rules are the > specifc requirements for which RF devices must be tested against by > the FCC to CERTIFY them for initial sale to the public. That is all > that the rules govern ... initial certification. The rules do not grant > any "authority to operate" the device, nor do the forbid operation of > any certified device that has been modified after the initial sale nor > do they forbid operation of any uncertified device that may have been > built from scratch. Bottom line...Part 15 rules impose absolutely NO > duty on the consumer. I don't agree. Rule 15.1(b) provides: "The operation of an intentional or unintentional radiator that is not in accordance with the regulations in this part must be licensed pursuant to the provisions of Section 301 of the Communications Act, as amended, unless otherwise exempted from the licensing requirements elsewhere in this chapter." Note that this rule addresses _operation_ of the device. In most, if not all, radio services, the modified device would not be properly type accepted in the applicable service which would, in turn, preclude licensing of its use pursuant to Section 301 except in special cases (e.g., an experimental or developmental authorization, or possibly certain amateur radio uses within ham bands and subject to ham rules). > Anyone can buy any commercial receiver (or scanner, or TV, or > computer, etc.) and modify it in any way they want and not be in > violation (as you claim) of any law. Additionally, hobbyists have > been building their own receivers and/or modifying commercial (as well > as military surplus) receivers for years. Doing so is not a crime, > nor does it render the use of any such home built or modified RECEIVER > illegal. Furthermore, there is NO license required to build, modify, > repair or otherwise tinker with any radio receiving equipment used by > the general population. I am not sure that this statement can be squared with Section 15.21 of the FCC Rules which provides: "The users manual or instruction manual for an intentional or unintentional radiator shall caution the user that changes or modifications not expressly approved by the party responsible for compliance could void the user's authority to operate the equipment." While I would not necessarily go so far as to label scanner and other receiver adjustments and/or modifications as necessarily or even likely "criminal," it is nonetheless important to keep in mind two important factors: (1) A device or a circuit within a device that is "receive-only" may still be (and in the case of radio receivers usually is) either an intentional or unintentional radiator within the meaning of Part 15 of the Rules; and (2) Without even getting into the debate over the special statutory and regulatory provisions applicable to cellular-capable scanners, there is a _big_ difference between opening up a device to repair, allign, or adjust it and modifying the manufacturer's design features of the device. Bob Keller (KY3R) Robert J. Keller, P.C. Tel: 301.229.5208 rjk@telcomlaw.com Telecommunications Law Fax: 301.229.6875 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you, Bob. Section 15.21 is all I was trying to get across to readers here. No, one does not have to have a 'license', ie. written document or whatever to operate a receiving only radio; authority is automatically given when you buy it from a licensed source. But as soon as you tamper with the innards and make changes in how or what the radio receives, and how it processes what it receives *and you are an unlicensed person* -- that is, you lack a tech ticket -- then according the FCC and 15.21 you lose your authority (albiet granted originally by default) to 'operate' the radio, which may amount to nothing more than twisting the off/on switch and the tuning dial. May I suggest to readers the next time you decide to purchase some sort of radio, or television perhaps, *look at the user manual*. Let's leave Radio Shack out of this since some people around here seem to think I am in cahoots with Tandy or somehow playing tricks using their name. Buy your radio from whoever. Read the manual. Note the legal verbiage in there somewhere about *losing your 'authority' to operate the darn thing if you make unlicensed repairs or modifications*. Why do you think General Electric, Best Buy, K-Mart, Wal-Mart, etc and oh yeah! Radio Shack put that admonition in there? The FCC *requires* them to do so. Radio Shack was putting in the FCC admonition, then their clerks were making mock of it. In essence, the FCC said, "We'll show who is boss ...' and they did. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 19:57:40 -0800 From: Daniel Fandrich Organization: Fandrich Cone Harvesters Ltd. Subject: Re: Procedure for Obtaining a 10XXX Code > And while we're at it, are there any 10XXX[X] codes assigned in > Canada? There are at least two "casual dialing" codes in BC: BC Tel (and probably all Stentor members) has 10323, and Unitel has 10869. Other companies I've talked to either claimed not to have a code (e.g. Sprint Canada) or simply refused to divulge theirs. I haven't gotten around to asking the CRTC if the complete list is public information. Using the 10323 code worked as expected -- the calls were billed as regular long distance calls on BC Tel's bill. Using 10869 on a line with BC Tel as the primary carrier resulted in charges showing up in a section titled "Other carriers' long distance" on BC Tel's bill. The number 1-700-555-4141 works the same here as in the U.S., giving the long distance carrier's name. Unitel's message is a bit misleading when it's dialed as 10869-1-700-555-4141, however, as it states, "Effective immediately, long distance calls made from the telephone number you are calling from will be on Unitel's long distance network." It seems they'd rather not acknowledge the existence of 10XXX codes in favour of signing you up for automatic dial-1 carrier access. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:16:15 +0100 From: Wolf.Paul@aut.alcatel.at (Wolf Paul) Subject: Re: Urgent Help Needed With European Phone System In article 5@eecs.nwu.edu, petar@trance.helix.net (Petar Nikic) writes: >> What should I do to make a cordless phone work in Europe? I bought it >> in Canada. There are two problems with the plugs: the phone plug and >> the plug for the recharger. Both of them are different than those >> which Europeans use. This is not an easy question to answer since different phone plugs and power plugs are used in the different European countries. Additionally, the use of non-approved (i.e. foreign-bought) phones is illegal in many European countries, and is considered especially serious in the case of cordless phones, whose frequencies may interfere with local frequency assignments. However, if you are determined to take that phone with you, feel free to call me once you are in Europe, and I will try to help you find the necessary adapters. Regards, Wolf *** PLEASE NOTE MY NEW LOCATION, E-MAIL ADDRESS AND PHONE/FAX NUMBERS *** Wolf N. Paul, UNIX Support/KSR wnp@aut.alcatel.at Alcatel Austria AG +43-1-277-22-2523 (w) Scheydgasse 41/E26 +43-1-277-22-118 (fax) A-1210 Vienna, Austria (Europe) +43-1-220-6481 (h) ------------------------------ From: sharpen@chinook.halcyon.com (Sharpened Software) Subject: Re: Is TeleScript Already Available? Date: 11 Jan 1995 11:19:50 GMT Organization: Sharpened Software Inc. In article , Paul Boots wrote: > Would there be anybody who can tell me if TeleScript is allready > available. I heard and read a lot about it and I would love to get > hands-on experience. Yes and no. AT&T's new PersonaLink system runs the (currently) only Telescript service. There are a few developers working on more Telescript services, but the development environment is not yet available to anyone who want it. The SDK, and the shrink-wrapped Telescript engine are not yet stable and polished enough for general use. Michael Libes Sharpened Software Inc sharpen@halcyon.com Seattle, WA ------------------------------ From: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor) Subject: Last Laugh: Speaking About Who is Boss Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 13:00:00 CST On the topic of "we'll show who is boss" I am reminded of this delightful little story first told to me about thirty years ago ... One day the various parts of a man's body were having an argument among themselves over which of them was the most important part. The arms claimed to be the most important since they did whatever work was needed for the man. No, no, not so, claimed the legs. We are the most important because we convey the rest of the man's body, including his arms, to wherever he wants to go. Without us, how could the arms get to where they need to be to do their work? The man's eyes claimed they were much more important, since without them, the legs would not know where to walk and the arms would not know what to touch or work with. The brain kept insisting that it was the body part which coordinated all the rest; none of the others could function at all without it it kept arguing. All this time, the man's asshole had been sitting there listening quietly to the discussion. Finally it spoke up with disdain and said "I'll show who's boss!" Having said that, it went on strike; plugged itself up, and refused to allow anything to pass by. It went on for a couple weeks that way, and before long the man's legs and arms were sluggish; his stomach hurt; his eyes had a burning sensation, and his thinking process had slowed down quite a bit. He found himself sitting in one place for long periods of time each day getting nothing accomplished. Finally the asshole relented, and went back to work with the other body parts. The moral of this story? *To succeed as a boss you don't need to be a brain, just an asshole.* PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #27 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa26452; 12 Jan 95 20:15 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA05174; Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:09:05 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA05160; Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:09:00 CST Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:09:00 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501122109.AA05160@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #28 TELECOM Digest Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:09:00 PST Volume 15 : Issue 28 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? (Steve Forrette) Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly (T Kennedy) Re: MANs in USA (David Goessling) Re: GSM Cellular Operators List (Jonathan Mosen) Re: Phone Rates From Israel (SM Communications And Marketing) Re: How to Keep Track of Calls on Busy (Caller ID on Busy)? (Steve Cogorno) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (David Moon) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (P.B. Emerton) Re: Sprint and Calls Within Your Service Area (Javier Henderson) Re: GSM Cellular Operators List (Taavi Talvik) Re: First NNX Area Code Officially in Service is 630? (John Mayson) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Joe J. Harrison) Re: New Area Codes and PBX (Paul A. Lee) U.K. Cellular Band? (Jabulani Dhliwayo) GSM Mobile Telefone ERICSSON GH337 (Joachim Oschek) Arthur C. Clarke Gets Degree by Satellite (Matt Healy) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette) Subject: Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:06:11 GMT Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn In article , jbaker@halcyon.com (James Baker) says: > Is there still a technical reason for the two second delay at the > beginning of a phone call? > ... the FCC requirements for auto answer stuff is to wait two seconds after > ringing before answering the phone (or at leaset before sending any > signals into the phone wires). I believe the actual requirement is that there be two seconds of silence *after answering*. The FCC doesn't care when you answer. One of the reasons for this is requirement is to prevent a device which purposely answers the call, exchanges data for 1/2 second or so, then hangs up right away, which would avoid toll charges in some situations. A device could be designed to do this repeatedly to transmit an unlimited amount of data (albiet slowly) without charge. I think that any modern switch would be immune from this type of fraud. Steve Forrette, stevef@wrq.com ------------------------------ From: adk@scri.fsu.edu (Tony Kennedy) Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Date: 12 Jan 95 14:04:46 Organization: SCRI, Florida State University Concerning some problems associated with pay phones at Atlanta's Hartsfield airport, Paul Beker noted that: > One interesting trend I've noticed lately: While only a couple of > months ago, all the COCOTs were pre-subscribed to some ripoff, > switchless, IXC, it looks like most of them have suddenly been > switched to AT&T. > This is definately a good thing, for the many people that would be > getting ripped off dialing 0+ otherwise ... I have found several times that I cannot use a 950-xxxx or 10xxx access number for MCI from AT&T phones at Atlanta Hartsfield airport, despite the fact that this number worked from all the other phones I used in the airport. The only way I could use MCI was to ask the AT&T operator to connect me, which they did with much ill-grace. ------------------------------ From: David_Goessling@fcbbs.ss.kpmg.com Organization: Strategic Services of KPMG Peat Marwick Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 12:13:34 EST Subject: Re: MANs in USA You might want to contact Faulkner Information Services, Pennsauken, NJ (609-662-2070/800-843-0460 Fax: 609-662-0905). They have a report on Alternative Access Carriers (like MFS Communications AKA Metropolitan Fiber Systems, etc.) that gives a technical profile of each company's MAN, often including a map of the system. Could be a bit expensive though ... Some of these companies (e.g. MFS) are public, so you should be able to get shareholder/financing info from their SEC-filed documents (AR/10K/10Q). MFS is a subsidiary of Kiewit Diversified Group, which owned 84.5% of the stock issued in April 1993. The underwriters of this public offering were Salomon Bros and Bear Stearns. As far as bank's usage, I think you need to do a literature search in the telecom and banking press for examples. ------------------------------ From: jmosen@actrix.gen.nz@actrix.gen.nz (Jonathan Mosen) Subject: Re: GSM Cellular Operators List Reply-To: jmosen@actrix.gen.nz Organization: Actrix Networks -- NZ Internet Service Providers. Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 01:24:01 GMT In article , etxlndh@eos99.ericsson.se (Robert Lindh) wrote: > Luxemburg Telekom > Norway Tele-Mobil > Netcom > Portugal TMN New Zealand also has a GSM network, run by Bell South. Jonathan Mosen, Manager Government Relations, Royal New Zealand Foundation for the Blind, jmosen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ From: sm@infinet.com (SM Communications And Marketing) Subject: Re: Phone Rates From Israel Date: 11 Jan 1995 19:17:29 -0500 Organization: InfiNet - Internet Access (614/224-3410) In article , JayK372 wrote: > I believe that you can call from Israel for about 80 cents per minute > from midnight Israel time to 8 a.m. My recollection is that the > highest rate, during the day, is about $1.50 per minute. This is via > Bezeq, the PTT. Or you can use a callback service and pay only $0.99 per minute, billed in six second increments with no service fees. (Flat rate, all the time). Metin e-mail: sm@infinet.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And when you use a callback service, you can also learn to tolerate a huge amount of wrong number calls by dumbos in the USA who dial your stateside callback number; let it ring a couple of times and hang up after deciding maybe they dialed a wrong number. Of course the equipment does not know that, so it proceeds to 'call you back' at your number in Europe or wherever and wake you up at four in the morning local time. I sold Telepassport for a few months, and they were absolutely plagued with telemarketers dialing their DID callback numbers and/or just plain wrong numbers. Here and there a phreak would appear also, trying to mouse around with the Telepassport switch. Several of the people I signed up for the service complained about getting 'callbacks' they did not make at all hours of the night because someone stateside dialed their number. Another concern would be if averaging out the cost was truly a benefit or not. You have to decide if most of your calls are during the primetime hours at the highest cost (in which case, having them averaged out to 99 cents per minute is a good deal) or if you can actually get them a lot lower than that. It used to be the telcos charged a great deal for an international call; then came the callback services and all of a sudden AT&T, Sprint and MCI suddenly lowered their rates to match in many cases. My experience with arbitrage was that there was too much work for the agent (me!) with too little profit in return. PAT] ------------------------------ From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno) Subject: Re: How to Keep Track of Calls on Busy (Caller ID on Busy)? Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 20:02:51 -0800 (PST) Pete Kruckenberg said: > The first one is easy, but might not be feasible. If I could get > caller ID's on a busy line, I'd just add caller ID to the last line in Can't be done (unless you have ISDN). You could have Caller ID on Call waiting though, BUT the caller ID transmission would interrupt the carriers, and callers would lose theior connection. I don't believe that ANY phone company in the US currently offers Caller ID on Call Waiting. > (again, last in hunt group), which would always be busy (I don't want > it to ring and confuse the users), but would have call waiting and > caller ID on call waiting, then just pipe the caller ID into the But how would you keep it busy? You would have to get ANOTHER line to hold that line busy (in other words have line A call line B which holds it busy). Otherwise, the phone company will think that the phone is off the hook, and wouldn't transmit Caller ID on Call Waiting (off-hook phones always report busy). > If there are other, better ways of doing this, I'd appreciate your > input. Ask your phone company for an analysis. They will do it, but maybe not for for a residential customer, and it may not be free. The report generally has the number of calls placed, answered, and returned busy for each 30 minute period. We had one for a month, but I think a week would suffice for your needs. Steve cogorno@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: moon@gdc.com (David Moon) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 12 Jan 1995 16:41:58 GMT Organization: General DataComm, Inc. Bill Sohl contributed a FAQ about scanners, and part of Pat's response was: > Illegal modification (i.e. modification by an unlicensed person) voids > your FCC authority to operate the radio. Furthermore, no *licensed* > person is going to make illegal modifications to a radio and risk having > such handiwork be traced back to his bench, at the possible risk of his > loss of his license. I'm sure this is true for radio transmitters, but for receivers? Are you saying I need FCC authority to operate a receiver? What kind of license are you talking about? David Moon moon@gdc.com General Datacomm, Inc. ATTMail: !dmoon Middlebury, CT 06762 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You don't need a printed license. Your 'authority' is granted by the FCC by default. The FCC claims absolute control over all radio devices and the airwaves, etc. As discussed in an earlier message today, they claim in section 15.21 of their code that they can revoke your (default) authority. Transmitter, receiver, cordless phone, baby monitor, whatever. PAT] ------------------------------ From: pb-emert@uwe-bristol.ac.uk (PB Emerton) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:55:43 GMT Tony Pelliccio (Tony_Pelliccio@brown.edu) wrote: > Actually the AOR-2500 comes through with the cell band intact. Or at > least it did until the FCC attempted to clamp down on it. The nice > thing is the AOR-2500 is considered a communications receiver and not > a scanner and last I heard the whole thing was still tied up in > hearings. > Of course if you really want to follow a cell call just get a DDI and > hook it up to your PC. The interesting thing is that the company that > sells the DDI will only release software with ESN capability to law > enforcement people. Makes you wonder doesn't it? What company is it? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Please see the referenced remarks of Tony Pelliccio above: 'FCC tried to clamp down ... still tied up in court'. A word to the wise: you don't want to mess with those people *too much*. A little maybe, but not too much. Like some people here who have disagreed with me over the past couple days on this, I seriously doubt the FCC is going to stage any massive actions to get cellular phone equipped scanners out of circulation, etc. But what I can tell you is they can be a nasty bunch of buggers when they want to be. In the past they have gone into pirate radio stations and started pulling wires and fuses out of the control board while the station was on the air ... kicked the door down and walked in. They have spent hours driving around in a van through some neighborhood to triangulate or get a fix on some signal when they wanted the guy. Like all government agencies, they have loads of money and an infinite amount of time and resources to spend when they decide they will get their way. As Tony points out, they are still fighting in court over the AOR-2500. When the FCC gets a vendetta of some kind started, for whatever reason, they will do a number on all concerned. Bureaucrats will be bureaucrats, and there is nothing worse than a bureaucrat scorned. :) Selective enforcement of their own code (the Communications Act) at times? Sure ... all government agencies selectively enforce the law ... so sue them. But if a time comes for whatever reason that you are a big target the FCC would like to get under control and instead of just raiding your premises with a United States Marshall in tow costing you all kinds of grief and money -- the way another government agency did to Steve Jackson; remember him? -- if instead they contact your attorney and tell him to get you on the straight and narrow 'so we do not have to take this further' then you know what you do? First you Praise Jesus ... then you think over very carefully how far you want to push it. PAT] ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Sprint and Calls Within Your Service Area From: henderson@mln.com (Javier Henderson) Date: 11 Jan 95 10:36:20 PST Organization: Medical Laboratory Network; Ventura, CA In article , ac554@lafn.org (Al Cohan) writes: > In a previous article, henderson@mln.com (Javier Henderson) says: >> I just got off the phone with Sprint's customer service. Their special >> offer of one cent per minute for calls within your service area applies >> to all of Sprint customers, regarldess of what calling plan you're on. >> You need to dial 10333, but considering the savings, I don't mind. The >> charge is the same regardless of mileage. >> The offer will expire on Feb 28, 1995. >> I'm not associated with Sprint, other than as a mostly satisfied customer. >> The above applies to residential lines in Southern California. Other areas >> within California may have the same deal, you'd better check. > Most of what you say is *not* true. In response to several of my telecom > clients, I called Sprint (800 877-4040) on several occasions. I was > misinformed 8 out of 10 calls. What, exactly, is not true? Read the first paragraph of my posting, please: "to all of Sprint customers". > I suggest you call Sprint three times and see if you get three > telemarkets are *not* located in California. I did, and I got the same answer the five times I called. Javier Henderson (JH21) henderson@mln.com ------------------------------ From: taavi@vs.ee (Taavi Talvik) Subject: Re: GSM Cellular Operators List Date: 12 Jan 1995 11:50:52 GMT Organization: Department of Communications Robert Lindh (etxlndh@eos99.ericsson.se) writes: > Estonia EMT Yesterday, 10.01 was formal opening of second GSM network in Estonia. Network is operated by Radiolinja Estonia, a subsidiary of Radiolinja Finland. Taavi Talvik Department of Communications tel. +372 6 39 9000 State Chancellery fax +372 6 39 9001 dala 4D, Tallinn EE0006, Estonia Internet: taavi@vs.ee X.400: G=taavi;S=talvik;P=itu;A=arcom;C=ch ------------------------------ From: jmayson@nyx10.cs.du.edu (John Mayson) Subject: Re: First NNX Area Code Officially in Service is 630? Date: 11 Jan 1995 14:41:49 -0500 Organization: West Melbourne, Florida, USA In article , Carl Moore wrote: > Mail to the digest indicates that area 630 (an overlay on 312 and 708, > at least for now) is the first NNX area code to go into service. 334 > in Alabama and 360 in Washington state are to kick in Jan. 15. I was able to call a friend in Montgomery, AL using 334-288-xxxx on Jan 1. John Mayson | West Melbourne, Florida | jmayson@nyx10.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 11:56:41 +0000 From: Joe.J.Harrison@bra0119.wins.icl.co.uk Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas I too had noticed that I can call US 800 numbers from the UK via BT (but not via Mercury, the other major carrier). The BT international operator has been the best source of information so far, according to her this is now week two of a six-month trial to see how it goes down with their customers, which explains the lack of publicity about it. I suppose that from BT's point of view they are expecting potential problems with billing -- like people who "didn't hear" the warning that their call would not be free and complaining about all these international call charges on their bill ;-) Unlike the other people posting here I got a US-originated recording when I tried 1-800-MY-ANI-IS telling me that the number was not available. When I tried calling my credit-card access tollfree number I was told that "sorry, this subscriber has asked for no international access to this 800 number" or some such message, so it looks like when you order 800 service you may in future have to check the box to say if you want overseas callers to get into it, or not. Joe Harrison ICL Ltd. Bracknell Berkshire RG12 8SN UK (+44-1344-473424) J.Harrison@bra0119.wins.icl.co.uk S=Harrison/I=J/OU1=bra0112/O=icl/P=icl/A=gold 400/C=GB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:05:06 -0500 Subject: Re: New Area Codes and PBX From: Paul A. Lee Organization: Woolworth Corporation In a recent {TELECOM Digest}, Jan Mandel wrote (in part): > Why cannot they get new area codes from whoever creates the codes and > add them as they come into being? > Is there one single place somewhere that assigns the area codes? Bellcore (Bell Communications Research in Livingston, NJ) is the North American Numbering Plan Administrator (NANPA), although they have been seeking to turn the responsibility over to some other organization. Bellcore receives information and requests from LECs (local exchange companies) that serve as regional numbering plan coordinators concerning need for additional numbers in the respective regions. Bellcore works with the regional coordinators to define NPAs (Numbering Plan Areas), which are geographic divisions that are assigned area codes. Bellcore, as the NANPA, then promulgates the area code information to the various carriers and other interested parties in the form of Information Letters (ILs). Here are some ways to get this information delivered to you: - Try calling Bellcore at 201 740-4661 or 201 740-4592 and asking to be put on their mailing list for North American Numbering Plan information. - If you are an AT&T Mail or EasyLink user, subscribe to the shared folder "!eichelk:npasplits", which is maintained by David Eichelkraut of AT&T. David passes along the Bellcore ILs and other information concerning the NANP. - Ask your PBX vendor or interexchange carrier (IXC) to provide you with NPA updates through a program they may offer. Paul A. Lee Voice 414 357-1409 Telecommunications Analyst FAX 414 357-1450 Woolworth Corporation CompuServe 70353,566 INTERNET <=PREFERRED ADDRESS* ------------------------------ From: jd13@ukc.ac.uk Subject: U.K. Cellular Band? Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 09:58:27 GMT Organization: University of Kent at Canterbury, UK. I recently bought a PRO-46 scanner from Tandy hoping to listen to the air band. I have always assumed that in the U.K. the cellular band is also about 870 - 890 Mhz, because this is what I always see where ever I read about scanners. As I expected, this band was not available on the scanner. To my surprise, when I searched the entire range of available frequencies, I found that there were mobile phones scattered between about 806-9XX Mhz. What I fail to understand is why on earth should scanners sold in the UK have a restriction on the US cellular band when their own band exceeds far beyond these bounds. I have since returned the scanner because besides two police frequencies and a few hams, the frequencies I could get were mostly mobile. Cheers, Jabulani Dhliwayo Applied Optics Group Physics Lab. U. of Kent at Canterbury [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I'll answer your question by asking a couple of my own. Why does the loaf of bread in my refrigerator have a notation on the wrapper that it is registered with the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture? What do I care what the people in Pennsylvania eat? Why does my modem limit me to ten redial attempts and document this by saying it is due to some regulations in Canada? What do I care who the people in Canada talk to on the phone? Why do all the school textbooks used all over the USA have to meet the approval of a bunch of people who live in Texas? What do I care what they choose to teach their children (or not teach them)? The answer in all three of the above is the factory specs are designed by where the money is. Pennsylvania says to sell food there it must be approved by the Department of Agriculture and plainly noted as such on the container. The baker does not want to spend the money having two sets of containers printed. Whatever factory in the far east makes all the modems (probably the same factory which makes all the scanners) makes circuit boards to suit the clear majority of its customers: big shots like Motorola, Tandy and such. Tandy sells 90 percent of its scanners in the USA and 10 percent in the rest of the world; whose specs will the factory follow? Don't say 'both, in two separate runs' because that would cost money. Ditto the publishers of school textbooks in the USA -- one opinion will suit all, and since the State of Texas is the single largest buyer of school textbooks (and there are a couple other large states whose specifications are quite similar to that of Texas school book buyers) then their opinion is as good as any say the publishers. :) Now oddly enough, in Australia there is a bunch of retail electronic stores called 'Tandy', owned by a parent company 'Radio Shack' -- just the opposite of the USA -- and I think they do get things built the way they want them; someone correct me if I am wrong. But they have absolutely no connection with the Tandy in the USA other than the one here owns quite a bit of the one in Australia. PAT] ------------------------------ From: oschek@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Joachim Oschek) Subject: GSM Mobile Telefone ERICSSON GH337 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 13:09:31 GMT Organization: EE Students Computer Pool, University of Erlangen, Germany Hello out there! I am looking for hidden software-modes of the MOBILE GSM TELEFONE ERICSSON GH337 (like the IMEI-number with the code *#06#) Does anyone know how I can see which channel or which cluster I am using? I would also need desperatly the signal strength in dB! Is there a possibility to gain access to these functions or do I need a special software of Ericsson? If so, where can i get it ? Does anyone know email-addresses or WWW-pages of Ericsson (Sweden)? I already sent a fax to them but I got no reply! It would be great if you could help me with the GH337. (If you know someone who could help me please ask!) Please send your mail to oschek@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de Greetings from Germany, Joachim (http://cip2.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de:8080/hyplan/oschek.html) ------------------------------ From: healy@seviche.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy) Subject: Arthur C. Clarke to Get Degree by Satellite Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:04:20 GMT Organization: Yale School of Medicine According to a story I found on the "Nando Times" web site (URL:http://www.nando.net/newsroom/nt/nando.html), run by the {Raleigh News and Observer}, Arthur C. Clarke will accept an honorary degree from Liverpool University via satellite link to Sri Lanka, where he now lives, on January 26th. A spokesperson for the university said they believe this will be the first degree to be conferred via satellite by a UK institution. TELECOM Digest readers will recognize how appropriate it is for Clarke, the inventor of the communications satellite, to get the first degree to be conferred via satellite! Matthew D. Healy matthew.healy@yale.edu Postdoc,Yale School of Medicine, Genetics & Medical Informatics, SHM I-148, 333 Cedar St, New Haven, CT 06510 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #28 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa27055; 12 Jan 95 21:39 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA08975; Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:56:10 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA08964; Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:56:06 CST Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:56:06 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501122256.AA08964@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #29 TELECOM Digest Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:56:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 29 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (John R. Covert) GIF Tax Rumors - Threat or Menace (Brad Hicks) Re: "Jitter" as a Quantity (Moritz Farbstein) Looking For Used Phones (Steve Harris) Re: Planning to Purchase a Voice Mail System (Steve Samler) Re: Seeking Canadian Telco WWW Addresses (David Devereaux-Weber) Re: Cell Phone PINs (John R. Covert) Help Locating Telephone/PC Interface Board (Tony Kwong) Re: ETSI Standards - Where? (John Combs) CTI on NEC 2000 Switch (Chaz Holmes) Address Wanted For French Telecom (Stephen Warner) More on Teleport (Steve Samler) Re: ISDN Over Wireless (Jeff Hersh) ISDN BRI Lines (John Combs) LD ISDN Service (John Schmerold) Re: Israel Rate Information (Steve Samler) Address Wanted For KPN (Stephen Warner) Where is PicturePhone II Now? (David Gingold) Inter-LATA Rates in California (Linc Madison) B8ZS, AMI, Bipolar Line Coding? (Phillip Schuman) Where to Get Text of the ECPA? (Wilson Mohr) Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:12:03 EST From: John R. Covert Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas pritter@nit.AirTouch.COM (Phil Ritter) wrote: > I also wonder how the billing is handled on the US side. Since the > carrier is receiving revenue for this call on the originating side, do > they still bill the 800 number owner (the terminating party) for the > calls? I am speculating, but I think what is going on here is that one particular carrier (with an office in Nevada) has told the countries from which this is working to hand them all 800 traffic and to pay them their portion of the international call revenue. They then drop it on the local exchange carrier, who routes it to the called customer via the appropriate LD carrier. jth@ion.le.ac.uk (Julian Thornhill) wrote: > Well I just tried [a Canadian 800 number] from the UK via British Telecom > and got the usual message "800 numbers from outside the **US** are not free > ..." and then I got the ringing tone, so I guess it works. Didn't stay on the > line to see who answered though! You guys have message rate calling and would have risked only a single message unit, but you weren't willing to wait ... The ringing you heard was the ringing tone for the recording that would have told you that the 800 number you are calling cannot be reached from your calling area. Can someone who has a meter on their phone please verify that the carrier handling these calls is only returning answer supervision at the point the 800 number actually answers, and not at the point of providing the recording. /john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 14:12:31 -0600 From: Brad Hicks Subject: GIF Tax Rumors - Threat or Menace? For those of you who haven't been reading your email lately, or who have managed to escape the net's Crisis of the Month Club, on December 28th CompuServe issued an unnecessarily tangled, poorly worded press release that contained the words "patent," "GIF," "royalty," and "CompuServe." Pat Clawson, the President and CEO of TeleGraphix Communications Inc., spread the word to the world, along with his own interpretation. For the next two weeks, all "the usual places" on the net (CompuServe's GRAPHSUPPORT forum, TELECOM Digest, Computer Underground Digest, and various UseNet newsgroups) exploded with scads of non-lawyers' interpretations of a document that was clearly written (or at least approved) by lawyers. Serveral days ago, CompuServe issued another statement, clarifying the whole mess. If I may abstract it: 1) The GIF image format, which CompuServe invented and promoted, uses LZW compression to bring down the image size. 2) At the time, CompuServe was under the impression that LZW was public domain. In fact, it was (being?) patented by Unisys. 3) Unisys wants its dough. Any package which uses LZW compression or decompression, including anything that can make or display a GIF image, infringes on their patent. 4) CompuServe negotiated a pass-through agreement: for a nominal sum per copy sold, you can sublicense the LZW/GIF code from CompuServe. 5) However, the terms of CompuServe's agreement with Unisys require that they only sub-license software that was written specifically to communicate with CompuServe. 6) If that =isn't= what your software is for, then you need to negotiate your =own= agreement with Unisys for the offending LZW routines, or stop selling software that uses them. In his January 2nd screed, Pat Clawson of TeleGraphix misinterprets points four through six above. His interpretation, which is now ricocheting around the net, argues that GIF is now legally restricted to CompuServe only. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Of course, Pat Clawson is not without fiscal interest in this controversy, either. Within a day or so of his first call to arms, his company had offered a competing spec, called GEF. Of course, at first his would be the only software that could read it, which is always good for the ol' market share, eh Pat? Oh, except now he's promoting yet another graphics standard, RIPScript ... as evidenced by the fact that his Internet email address has changed from PATCLAWSON@ telegraphix.com to rip.support@telegraphix.com. On top of that, four days later Unisys' Public Relations department made an announcement in CompuServe's GRAPHSUPPORT forum that is even better news. 7) Unisys only wants to charge royalties from communications software vendors who are charging a fee for software intended to connect to a commercial online service. 8) Unisys explicitly says that they will not charge a royalty for "non- commercial, non-profit GIF-based applications, including those for use on the on-line services" or for "non-commercial, non-profit offerings on the Internet, including +Freeware+." 9) They also made it pretty clear that they won't charge for selling images, whether via World Wide Web pages, CompuServe fora, or local bulletin boards. It's the software vendors whose software =makes= the images who'll have to pay. In other words, unless you =sell= =communications software= specifically for connecting to =commercial online services= such as CompuServe or America Online, and your software displays GIFs, you'll not have to pay a royalty. CompuServe estimates that the royalty will work out to around 11 cents per copy of the software sold. If you want to explore alternatives to sub-licensing from CompuServe, or you want to make sure that you are covered, email lzw_info@unisys.com and =ask them=. Everybody else can relax, sit back down, and let this month's Panic of the Month ebb away. There is no FCC modem tax, there is no FCC proposed rule to outlaw religious broadcasting, Craig Shergold doesn't want more postcards, and there is no conspiracy to tax, license, restrict, or outlaw GIF files. P.S. Thank all holy Gods that everyone involved is including a date and an email address in their messages on the subject. Hopefully, we won't be hearing about this "new threat" in five years. P.P.S. Come to think of it, the FCC Modem Tax memetic infection started with a CompuServe public announcement, too. "CompuServe Public Relations: Threat or Menace?" Nah, it's probably just a coincidence. J. Brad Hicks Internet: mc!Brad_Hicks@mhs.attmail.com X.400: c=US admd=ATTMail prmd=MasterCard sn=Hicks gn=Brad ------------------------------ From: moritz@il.us.swissbank.com (Moritz Farbstein) Subject: Re: "Jitter" as a Quantity Reply-To: moritz@il.us.swissbank.com Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 20:45:34 GMT In comp.dcom.telecom article you wrote: > I need a solid reference for "delay jitter" as quantity w.r.t. > frames arrivals. Much of the material that I've read defines jitter > as the variation interarrival times, but what I really want is a > quantitative definition that's effectively "the jitter for two event > arrivals is difference between the expected and observed interarrival > times." > I found an example of the use of "jitter" as a quantity recently in > a paper that I was reading: ".. The conference origination application > delivers frames to the network adapter at an aggregrate rate of 1 > frame every 33 seconds (with a measured jitter of +- 2 ms)." > But the paper does not define jitter. It's obvious what is > meant, but I really need a solid definition from a solid > source. As with many words, this one has more than one meaning. I have collected a number of definitions from different sources, although I don't always keep track of where I got the definitions. There are a number of good telecom dictionaries. Your best source would be the reference librarian at your local library if you absolutely have to have the source citation. [from Digital Webster] 1jit ter \'jit-er\ n [origin unknown] (1929) 1: the state of mind or the movement of one that jitters 2 pl: a sense of panic or extreme nervousness had a bad case of the jitters before his performance 3: irregular random movement (as of a pointer or an image on a television screen); also: vibratory motion 2jitter vi (1931) 1: to be nervous or act in a nervous way 2: to make continuous fast repetitive movements [from multimedia tech documentation, source unknown] 1) The breakup of a digital video stream caused by underrunning buffers. 2) Variation in the average delays between sending and receiving data. [from ftp://lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives] 1) Short term instability of the amplitude and/or phase of a signal. Also called phase jitter. ----------------- Moritz Farbstein Swiss Bank Corporation, 4225 Naperville Road, Lisle IL 60532 Phone: (708) 955-6972 Fax: (708) 955-6929 ------------------------------ From: harris@grays.srs.cs.mci.com (Steve Harris) Subject: Looking For Used Phones Organization: MCI Telecommunications Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:51:36 GMT Is there any source out there for very old phones, speaker phones or telemarketer headsets? My wife has Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS) and is highly allergic to the outgassing of plastics. Talking on the phone makes her ill. This outgassing diminishes over time so older equipment is not such a problem. Speaker phones or headsets are good since they don't put a big piece of plastic in your face but they still outgas when new. If there is a source for these, please let me know and I will post the info to Internet groups that discuss this. Thanks in advance, Steve Harris Colorado Springs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 10:48:33 EST From: Steve Samler Subject: Re: Planning to Purchase a Voice Mail System The point you should explore most heavily is the message waiting light function. In my experience this is the most problematic area for any voice mail package. Here is what you want to know: - assuming that the MWI signalling is in-band, what happens when the signal is sent and the phone is off-hook? (ask both the vmail vendor and your switch vendor). Is it legal to send the signal then? If it isn't, does the voice mail system know this and will it try to send the signal again later? - What happens if the phone is in the middle of a flashhook when the signal is sent? We had many problems with Compass vmail and the NEC 1400 switch. My experience is that the voice mail people do not often write the serial interface to the switch themselves. Therefore the PBX interface in the Compass system could be the same as that in other systems. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:07:19 CST From: dave@clover.macc.wisc.edu Subject: Re: Seeking Canadian Telco WWW Addresses On Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:22:37 MST vanderh@edtel.alta.net (Helen Vanderheide) asked about WWW addresses of Canadian companies. One place to find WWW addresses of communications companies is the Telecom Information Resources page at the Institute of Public Policy Studies at the University of Michigan: http://www.ipps.lsa.umich.edu/telecom-info.html Unfortunately, there were no references for the companies Helen requested. David Devereaux-Weber, P.E. dave@clover.macc.wisc.edu (Internet) The University of Wisconsin - Madison weberdd@wiscmacc.bitnet (Bitnet) Division of Information Technology Network Engineering (608)262-3584(voice) (608)262-4679(FAX) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:51:05 EST From: John R. Covert Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com (A. Padgett Peterson) wrote: > Sorry but I seem to be missing something here. If the PIN is sent in > the clear then anyone grabbing the cell phone number off the air will > also get the PIN. You are correct, however: The current scheme only requires a single receiver sitting listening to the transmission of MIN+ESN on the mobile-to-land setup channel. Set your receiver to one channel and pick up all the phones as they go by. To get the PIN, your receiver would have to listen to the mobile-to-land setup channel, simultaneously listen to the land-to-mobile setup channel for the command to go to a voice channel, then listen to that particular voice channel and get the PIN. > Don't understand the last part, the ESN is what needs to change, not > the phone number, guess someone does not understand the difference. The FCC has ordered phones to be built such that it is "very difficult" to change the ESN (obviously this is not the case with those being used as clones, but it is the case with most good equipment on the market). Thus changing the ESN without an entire new phone is impossible, and the MIN must be changed. My gripe about this PIN business is that most laptop terminal emulator programs and many modems don't support waiting for tone, flashing and dialing. (Note that when you have an RJ11 adapter plugged in to a cellphone, you reverse the order of dialing and flashing from what you usually do on the cellular phone. You flash, the RJ11 generates local dialtone, you dial the digits, the RJ11 adapter recognizes the Touch-Tone, times out (or accepts a #), and then pushes SND for you.) seydell@tenrec.cig.mot.com (Steve Seydell) wrote: > The PIN is sent as DTMF across the voice channel. Not necessarily. Although many phones will send the DTMF across the voice channel as you dial the PIN, the PIN feature works even if DTMF dialing is turned off. The cellular switch has no DTMF receivers, thus you dial the PIN and press SEND. The digits you just entered are sent as a data burst on the voice channel. /john ------------------------------ From: tony@puma7.backyard.bellcore.com (Tony Kwong) Subject: Help Locating Telephone/PC Interface Board Date: 12 Jan 1995 01:44:14 GMT Organization: Bell Communications Research Hi, I need to locate an "IBM" PC peripherial board that will let me answer the phone, play audio prompts and accept touch tone input from the caller. Multiple lines per card and multiple cards per box will be better. Any leads will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. tony kwong (908) 699-4130 tony@puma7.backyard.bellcore.com FAX (908) 336-2836 Bellcore 4C-742 444 Hoes Lane, Piscataway, NJ, 08824 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 15:06 EST From: Testmark Laboratories <0006718446@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: ETSI Standards - Where? Compliance Engineering, in Boxboro MA, carries many ETSI standards in print as well as many other standards, US and international. Voice number: 508-264-4208, ask for Patty LeBlanc John Combs, Project Engineer, TestMark Laboratories, testmark@mcimail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 10:59:08 -0500 From: Chazworth@aol.com Subject: CTI on NEC 2000 Switch I work for a NEC distributor in Oregon and Washington and often find more product ideas from customers and other switch technicians than from the PBX maker. I would like to know if anybody out there has designed or installed a working interface using the NEC 2000 ethernet card to provide switch to LAN conection and if so, what is the application? Please post response or email to chazworth@aol.com (Chaz Holmes). ------------------------------ From: k920672@kingston.ac.uk (Stephen Warner) Subject: Address Wanted For French Telecom? Date: 11 Jan 1995 18:53:24 GMT Organization: Kingston University, Kingston-upon-Thames. Hi, Can someone tell me the address of French Telecom in France. Thanks, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 11:17:12 EST From: Steve Samler Subject: More on Teleport They operate not only in NYC but also Boston, CT (Hartford?), New Jersey, Florida, TX (Dallas I think), Mich, Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri (St. Louis?), Nebraska, Arizona California and Washington. 160 communties in 19 metropolitan areas. There is a good five page summary in Phillips Business Information's Telephone Directory on page 515ff. ------------------------------ From: Hersh Jeff Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:06:00 PST Subject: Re: ISDN Over Wireless Organization: Booz, Allen & Hamilton John Lundgren (jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM) wrote: > Find out if the phone company has a newer 5ESS switch. To be fair to other companies, it should be noted that Northern Telecom, Siemens, and other switch vendors also offer ISDN switches that can act as central offices. Jeff Hersh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 12:37:00 EST From: Testmark Laboratories <0006718446@mcimail.com> Subject: ISDN BRI Lines GTE South has offered ISDN service here in Lexington, KY for the last two years. However, when I enquire about a BRI line, they tell me I must PREDETERMINE what I want to do with the two B-channels. For example, B1 will always be used for voice calls, and B2 will always be used for switched 56 data. I don't consider this true ISDN. Has anyone else run across anything like this? testmark@mcimail.com John Combs, Project Engineer, TestMark Laboratories ------------------------------ From: john@katy.com (Default Account) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 08:36:32 -0600 Subject: LD ISDN Service Organization: Katy Computer Systems, Inc. At long last, Southwestern Bell is offering ISDN service in St. Louis. We need to select a LD company, our current carrier LDDS says they don't offer it. Any recommendations from the crowd? TIA, John Schmerold Katy Computer Systems, Inc. 86 Meramec Valley Plaza Drive St. Louis, Missouri 63088 Internet Address: john@katy.com Telephone Number: 314/230-8200 Facsimile Number: 314/861-2222 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 15:45:41 EST From: Steve Samler Subject: Re: Israel Rate Information Can't help on the rates. However, I do know that it was recently announced that Bezeq will have two competitors for long distance business. Tenders will be offered prior to May. Sprint has indicated that they'd be interested in participating in the bid for one of these. ------------------------------ From: k920672@kingston.ac.uk (Stephen Warner) Subject: Address Wanted For KPN Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:54:29 GMT Organization: Kingston University, Kingston-upon-Thames. Can someone tell me the smail address of KPN, a Dutch Telecoms Company? Thanks, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 18:53:12 -0500 From: David Gingold Subject: Where is PicturePhone II Now? Can anyone tell me what ever happened to the PicturePhone II phones manufactured by AT&T in the '70's? I have heard a rumor that these phones might have been given to Ameritech as part of the breakup, but I have know idea where to start looking. dg ------------------------------ From: lincmad@netcom.com (Linc Madison) Subject: Inter-LATA Rates in California Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 22:02:32 GMT I've been watching the fray as "local toll(SM)" calls in California have been opened to competition. For the first time in decades, it is actually cheaper to call from San Francisco to Santa Cruz than to Boston. However, I haven't heard so much as a peep out of AT&T, MCI, Sprint, or any of the others, about any reduction in the inter-LATA long distance rates within California. As of December 31st, a call from San Francisco to Los Angeles was only slightly less exorbitantly over-priced than the "local toll" calls within a given LATA. Have the IXC's reduced their rates on calls between LATAs in California to be more in line with both the new intra-LATA and interstate rates? Linc Madison * Oakland, California * LincMad@Netcom.com ------------------------------ From: Phillip Schuman <72510.1164@CompuServe.COM> Subject: B8ZS, AMI, Bipolar Line Coding? Date: 12 Jan 1995 22:15:27 GMT Organization: via CompuServe Information Service I've been wrestling with the line coding issue ... B8ZS, AMI, Bipolar, etc. for getting a full 64k DS0, and trying to find a simple explanation for these areas. ... and -- if the 8k is stolen from the 64k to yield 56k -- is that 8k considered the same as 'bit robbing' as performed for voice? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 16:20:44 -0600 From: Wilson Mohr Subject: Where to Get Text of the ECPA? I have been poking around the FCC's FTP server to no avail so I will ask: Does anyone know where/how I can get a full text of the ECPA? Thanks! Wilson Mohr mohr@cig.mot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 17:23:30 -0500 From: goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com (Bob Goudreau) Subject: Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? jmroden@crl.com (James M. Roden) writes: > The real reason wireless (read cellular) carriers do not want to > switch their entire customer base to another NPA is (think about this) > _EVERY_ customer phone would have to be reprogrammed with the new NPA > number. Going forward is one thing. Changing the base is quite > another. But didn't the first overlay area code (917 in New York City) manage to get away with switching existing cellular customers? If NY can do it, why can't Chicago? Bob Goudreau Data General Corporation goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 Alexander Drive +1 919 248 6231 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #29 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa00592; 13 Jan 95 6:20 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA18341; Fri, 13 Jan 95 01:41:36 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA18328; Fri, 13 Jan 95 01:41:32 CST Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 01:41:32 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501130741.AA18328@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #30 TELECOM Digest Fri, 13 Jan 95 01:41:30 CST Volume 15 : Issue 30 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! (John Leong) COCOTS in Jail (Wm. Randolph U. Franklin) Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Stephen O. Pace) Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? (John R. Covert) Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? (Wally Ritchie) Re: Microwave-Data Problem (Wally Ritchie) Re: Where is PicturePhone II Now? (Wally Ritchie) Re: 800 Numbers and Caller ID (Jonathan Bradshaw) Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California (Steven H. Lichter) Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly (Jan Mandel) Re: Cellular NAM and ESN (John R. Covert) Re: Multiple ESN's per NAM (John R. Covert) Re: Changes in Hong Kong Telephone Numbers (Robert Hall) Re: Changes in Hong Kong Telephone Numbers (Jeffrey Bhavnanie) Need Recommendation For Long Range Cordless Phone (John Akapo) Data Over CB? (Michael Libes) Computers and VCR's (Anthony Hologounis) Biographies on Line (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Leong Subject: Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 17:54:21 -0500 Organization: Comp Svcs Directors, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA If there are any Canadian readers out there, particularly in B.C., I would really appreciate some help .... Recently, I bought a little piece of land in Francois Lake (nearest town: Burns Lake in Northern B.C. Nice place. Contemplating of may be spending some times out there. When I inquired about hooking up telephone service, it was suggested that I should look at putting in 3 lines - one for phone, one for fax and one for other services. Hmmm ...? "Gee, what about ISDN?" "Son, this is the land for real man. Real man don't believe in those whimpy digital stuff ... and by the way, you will also be privileged to join a rare group of Canadians that still enjoy the pleasure of a party line shared with 4 very nice neighbours ... all with teen age kids that simply love telephones!" O.K. ... I lied ... they never said any of the above except for the strange suggestion of three lines. But the bottom line is that the only service I can get is an ancient shared party. Most of the people out there, including my brother-in-law, are loggers. However, some of these lumberjacks are amazingly well in touched with the computing world and quite a number of them have serious home machines. My brother-in-law has a 486 Toshiba lap top and he has also recently got himself a P90 desktop too. Yup, he know all about PCI bus, high performance graphic accelerators, OS/2, NT ... and even "Bob". Learned all that in between cutting down tress and digging ditched. They certainly has also heard about the Internetnet and are real eager to get on it ... but on a party line? This really raises the issue of universal access for the Internet, Information Superhighway or what have you ... if there is not even universal service for decent basic phone services to run your boring modems. In the U.S., I would try to beat up on the phone company and also gripe to the PUC who takes care of consumer interest. Is there an equivalent to PUC in Canada (particularly in B.C.) other than the CRTC? Any information and suggestions would be most appreciated. Regards, John leong Technical Director, Computing Services Carnegie Mellon University [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The way I always heard it back in my CB radio days was that real men knew how to peak their radios ... and now they tell me real men (where PC's are concerned) know how to read and write direct in machine language ... no need for compilers, etc. :) I don't know what the law is about this in Canada, but if you were here in the USA you would be in a bit of a bind since our telecom laws forbid hooking *any kind* of peripheral equipment -- even an answering machine or an extension phone *you own* -- to a party line. The thinking is if your device goes out of order, the other parties may be inconvenienced by the interuption in service. In fact I think instances of party line service in the USA, where it still remains, is one of the few exceptions to the rule of telco not owning any customer premises equipment any longer. In the case of party lines, telco still owns the instruments and the wiring, and repairs it without charge as needed. This is because telco could get hassled if one of the other parties goes without service as a result of your problem. There are not too many instances where telco kept control of premises equipment; I think party lines are one instance and apartment/office building front door entry service (the kind that is a sort of hybrid centrex, with the subscriber's common equipment in the central office, and some of telco's stuff on the customer premises) is the other exception. I know existing front door entry service was grandfathered. Even though telco can't sell it any longer they have to maintain the subscribers who have it. I don't think telcos in the USA can take on new party line customers either; they just have to sit and wait patiently to get rid of the ones they have had all along. PAT] ------------------------------ From: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin) Subject: COCOTS in Jail Date: 12 Jan 1995 22:52:51 GMT Organization: ECSE Dept, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY, 12180 USA Reply-To: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin) (Continuing to report telecom-related numbers from the newspapers) ... Some long time ago there was a discussion about how prisoners in jails were often ripped off by being forced to use COCOTS. Our local paper recently had some interesting numbers on this for a local jail. The COCOTS are run by AT&T. There are 800 jail cells, and the county received $180K in commissions last year, or over $200 per cell. That's just the kickback to the county, not the total profit. Also, since this is AT&T, things might be better for the prisoners than if, say, *nt*gr*t*l had been running the phones, tho maybe not if AT&T had to bid for this. Wm. Randolph Franklin, wrf@ecse.rpi.edu [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Interesting that AT&T has their COCOTS in jails because as a rule they are not interested in the corrections industry business where regular long distance is concerned. They were more than happy to pass off the fraud and the grief to Integratel and others like it who don't have much to complain about since they get so much per call (which in turn they blame on high fraud rates they are stuck with, etc). PAT] ------------------------------ From: sewilco@fieldday.mn.org (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:08:25 -0600 Organization: FieldDay In article , Gerald Serviss wrote: >> the cell ID as an approximate location of the caller. In metro areas > Let's consider a metro area as the previous poster suggests. In our > most dense operations that I am familiar with the smallest cell radius > is 500 meters. This gives an area of 785,000 meters-square or about > .25 miles-square. If you consider that in a metro area where this > cell would be located is built up and that the average number of > floors covering this area is just say four (source ... PFA) you have > one square mile of area that this caller could be located in. Even if .25 miles square is about 2 to 4 square blocks (depending on the size of your city blocks). That's a better location than "unknown", and it does not take long for a car to check streets for trouble. The built up area is only a problem for finding the caller, and does not complicate call routing much as most dispatch and patrol areas are not sensitive to altitude. > In a suburban setting where there are lots of jurisdictions and cell > placement and thus coverage is dictated by traffic patterns there are > just as many problems. The use of the strongest signal is no guarantee > of routing the call correctly, especially if you are in a building. No guarantee is necessary. In an emergency, "close" is better than "none". And neighboring jurisdictions often do have radio links, and should have telephone links (if a central site is going to direct 911 calls, they'll at least all be connected to the central site, so it's just too bad if that's not a switching center which can interconnect the region). > I think that the FCC exemption is based on good engineering and the > realization that today we do not have the capability to locate the > caller easily, if at all. Yes, the FCC does properly recognize the engineering problems. I recognize the problems in a 911 operator trying to help someone when all they hear is the sounds of a fight or shooting. I recognize the problems in having to ask the State Patrol operator to connect me to the city police (which they do routinely and quickly) while four large enforcers for the drug house across the street are getting out of their car five hundred feet down the sidewalk from me. [ Just then the squad car responding to my unrelated call came around the corner :-] Scot E. Wilcoxon sewilco@fieldday.mn.org +1 612 936 0118 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 19:54:19 +0600 From: pace@shell.com (Stephen O. Pace) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Organization: Shell Oil Company In serviss@tazdevil.cig.mot.com (Gerald Serviss) writes: > In theory, 911 access for cell phones is a good idea. The problem is > reducing that theory to practice. I was watching the news last night, and apparently Houston just turned on cellular 911. At one point, the camera was pointed behind the operator's screen, and you could see that she received quite a bit of information about the caller, including cell-phone number, name and address of phone owner, carrier (GTE or Houston Cellular), general location (on a detailed map of Houston), and possibly other things (I didn't record it, otherwise I would have gone back and provided a little more detail). I don't know how accurate the location it returns for you is, but I could probably dig that information out of the {Houston Chronicle} or my cellular carrier if anyone is interested. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:07:31 EST From: John R. Covert Subject: Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? jbaker@halcyon.com (James Baker) wrote: > Is there still a technical reason for the two second delay at the > beginning of a phone call? > I understand that some old analog switches could be fooled into > billing the call incorrectly or not at all if certain tones were > present within the first two seconds of ringing. No. There was a deliberate grace period built in to AT&T's toll billing so that you would have enough time to move the receiver from your ear to the set to hang up and not be charged if the call answered during this time. It had nothing to do with "certain tones" and everything to do with not allowing modems to quickly transmit data during the grace period and then disconnect. /john ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Is Two Second Delay Still Necessary? Date: 13 Jan 1995 04:37:50 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette) writes: > In article , jbaker@halcyon.com (James > Baker) says: >> Is there still a technical reason for the two second delay at the >> beginning of a phone call? >> ... the FCC requirements for auto answer stuff is to wait two seconds after >> ringing before answering the phone (or at leaset before sending any >> signals into the phone wires). > I believe the actual requirement is that there be two seconds of > silence *after answering*. The FCC doesn't care when you answer. One > of the reasons for this is requirement is to prevent a device which > purposely answers the call, exchanges data for 1/2 second or so, then > hangs up right away, which would avoid toll charges in some situations. > A device could be designed to do this repeatedly to transmit an > unlimited amount of data (albiet slowly) without charge. I think that > any modern switch would be immune from this type of fraud. Silence is NOT a requirement of Part 68. The exchange of user data is the issue. Modems are free to transmit immediately upon answering for the purpose of indicating modes, training adapter equalizers, etc. With modern modems like V.32 and V.34 this process takes more than the two second billing protection delay so this is a non-issue. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Microwave-Data Problem Date: 13 Jan 1995 05:00:07 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , Doug H. Kerr writes: > I'm having a problem here at our college with a remote site which I > connect via microwave. We have two NEC 2400 connected and also use a > data channel off the T-1 for our router which connects our lans. I > have not had any problems with my telephones but the lan has had > severe problems. Here lies the problem: the data people say it's the > microwave or T-1. I run a data channel also that is used for a CCIS link > between switches and have no problems with this so I assume it is not > in the micro or T-1. How can you prove the origin of the problem, or > monitor the system without the high cost test equipment? You have two ways to fix things. Open Loop and Closed Loop. With Open loop you try a bunch of things until the problem is fixed. You may not know why but it gets fixed. (BELL calls this FM for (F*&54king Magic). In Closed Loop you measure things with test equipment to find out whats wrong and then you fix it. Proper closed loop solution is to test the bit-error rate on the T1 link and prove that it is low. You cannot imply that because the switch uses the data link with success that all is ok. First the data traffic is likely to be very low on this link and second the error recovery procedures are very robust so you won't know of the problem unless you can see the actual error counts on this link. LAN protocols, particularly IP, assume very low error rates with recovery at the relatively high level of TCP. Speech is very tolerant of relatively high bit errors rates so this also proves nothing about the quality of the link. Open loop solution is assume that the Microwave is OK on blind faith. Most likely you have a timing problem, quite possibly frame slips between the two PBX's. How is the data channel delivered to the data users? How is each PBX timed? What other T1 connections to other Networks are involved? Reliable transmission requires that both PBX's derive their timing from the same source. The data equipment should be clocked from the common timing. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Where is PicturePhone II Now? Date: 13 Jan 1995 05:23:10 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , David Gingold writes: > Can anyone tell me what ever happened to the PicturePhone II phones > manufactured by AT&T in the '70's? I have heard a rumor that these > phones might have been given to Ameritech as part of the breakup, but > I have know idea where to start looking. Remember the warehouse in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" which was supposed to be where the Government stored useful things for safe keeping. Well that was actually AT&T's White Elephant Warehouse where they keep 7300 PC's, PicturePhones, and other such things :) One of the nice things about being a Monopoly with rate of return regulation is that the more money you waste the higher your rate base and the more money you make. AT&T's success was due less to the invention of the telephone as to the the invention of the Triad of BellLabs, Western Electric, and Operating Companies. The purpose of BellLabs was to burn money. This money was reflected in the price of WE equipment sold to Operating Companies. The greater the cost of the equipment, the greater allowed return on investment. AT&T, of course, is now much closer to a real company. Bellcore, however, serves a function for the RBOC's similar to the old scheme. Instead of just burning money, however, Bellcore concentrates on positioning the operating companies for doing things that they are legally barred from doing today. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: Jonathan@IQuest.Net (Jonathan Bradshaw) Subject: Re: 800 Numbers and Caller ID Organization: IQuest Network Services Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:02:12 GMT In article , glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us asks: > Can someone explain IF, not why, full telephone numbers of people > calling 800 numbers are shown (either on the bill, or as part of the > call) to those who OWN the 800 numbers? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The answer is yes. People who have 800 > numbers receive the ANI -- not the Caller-ID, I get Caller ID NOT ANI through my 800 number depending on the origination. From Indianapolis, I know I get full Caller ID from South Bend and Bloomington, IN where I have tested it. This shows up as the NAME and Number (so its NOT ANI) but if the caller dials me directly, I see "OUT OF AREA". I don't know how far this extends but it does seem to be quite extensive in Indiana. Somehow One Call is picking up and transferring the CID data along with the call. Jonathan Bradshaw | Packet mail: N9OXE@N0ARY | Internet: Jonathan@IQuest.Net PGP KEY AVAILABLE | ESD Administrator, Boehringer Mannheim, Indianapolis, IN [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think however we can correctly answer the original query by stating that yes indeed, the persons who own 800 numbers do get identifying data on all or almost all calls they receive. If there is some reason they want to make an issue out of it, they nearly always can backtrack to the source of the call. I think that is what our original writer was asking about. PAT] ------------------------------ From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter) Subject: Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California Date: 13 Jan 1995 02:33:58 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) (Re rate analomies in California on intrastate/interstate calls). That could change since the FCC is considering allowing LEC to get back into the LD business. Sysop: Apple Elite II -=- an Ogg-Net Hub BBS Home of GBBS/LLUCE support (909) 359-5338 12/24/14.4 V32/V42bis ------------------------------ From: jmandel@carbon.cudenver.edu (Jan Mandel) Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:51:13 -0700 Organization: University of Colorado at Denver Paul Beker (pbeker@netcom.com) wrote: > wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) writes: > Yep ... several years ago every single pay phone in that airport was a > *real* Southern Bell phone. Since then, the politicians and others > (ever heard of the Atlanta Airport scandals / fiascos?) have gotten > involved and now you will find a wide variety of worthless COCOTs > scattered throughout the airport. Funny thing ... in the slang of numerous East-European languages COCOT is slang vulgar term for the male sex organ. How fitting. Jan Mandel, Center for Computational Math, University of Colorado at Denver jmandel@colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:26:18 EST From: John R. Covert Subject: Re: Cellular NAM and ESN Alan Shen wrote: > Call your cellular carrier about this. Some will allow you to have one > NAM for two different phones (with different ESN numbers) for an extra > charge usually from about $5-$8 a month. Absolutely not! This is a violation of the cellular standard and forbidden by the FCC. No carrier may permit it. It will not work correctly; if both phones are on at the same time it may interfere with calls to other subscribers. /john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:36:46 EST From: John R. Covert Subject: Re: Multiple ESN's per NAM dsc3cjc@imc220.med.navy.mil (Chris J. Cartwright - ELF) wrote: > - Two ESN's on one NAM $17.95/mo + reg. service price; > - Three ESN's on one NAM 29.95/mo + reg. service price; I don't believe it. They must mean multiple MIN's on each NAM. /john ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 13:57:22 HKT From: Mr Robert Hall Subject: Re: Changes in Hong Kong Telephone Numbers In response to Paul A. Lee's message requesting information about the numbering change in Hong Kong, here is an extract from a document published by Hongkong Telecom: What is '2' Day? The growth of the telecommuncations services in Hong Kong has led to an increase in the demand for numbers. To meet Hong Kong's needs into the 21st century, the telecommunications regulatory authority, OFTA, hasannounced a new numbering plan that will make more numbers available. From January 1, 1995, all seven-digit business and residential phone and fax numbers will undergo a very simple change: they will be prefixed with the digit '2' - hence the name '2' Day. How '2' Day Affects you: Residential and business seven-digit phone and fax numbers will be changed by adding a '2' to the existing number. Apart from this, the original number will remain unchanged. Our number, for example, which is 888-2888 will become 2888 2888. Pager customers: There are plans to change pager numbers at a later date. OFTA has not yet finalised its plans in this area and customers will be informed of the exact date in advance. Mobile customers: Mobile numbers will remain unchanged. Citiwide Citinet numbers that currently begin with 922X XXXX will become 292X XXXX and those dataline numbers beginning with 938X XXXX will become 293X XXXX. Emergency services and enquiry hoteline numbers such as 999, 1081, 1083 and 109 will remain unchanged. ------------- Typist note: there is a three month grace period during which anyone not adding the '2' prefix will be connected. After that time, there will be a recorded message played to the caller. Also, all Value Added Network (VAN) operators have had their numbers changed from the traditional seven-digit numbers to eight digit numbers beginning with 3XXX XXXX. This applies to numbers such as the CompuServe access number, my Internet service provider and BBSes. Let me know if you have any questions. Rob Hall Hong Kong ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 13:06:29 HKT From: Jeffrey Bhavnanie Subject: Re: Changes in Hong Kong Telephone Numbers From the 1st of January 1995, All phone numbers in Hong Kong, Kowloon, New Territories and the outlying areas will be changed from the current seven digits to eight digits with the number '2' added in front. (eg) Old Number : 555-5555 New Number : 2555-5555 ->Jeff ------------------------------ From: akapo@akapo.com (John Akapo) Subject: Need Recommendation For Long Range Cordless Phone Date: 12 Jan 1995 15:09:52 -0800 Organization: CCnet Communications (510-988-7140 guest) I'm looking for a cordless phone with a range of up to two miles or more. Could someone please recommend some. I seem to remember that Uniden used to sell one of these; do they still? JoHn Akapo akapo@akapo.com ------------------------------ From: sharpen@chinook.halcyon.com (Sharpened Software) Subject: Data Over CB? Date: 13 Jan 1995 02:58:49 GMT Organization: Sharpened Software Inc. Are there any FCC regs concerning the type of information broadcast over the "Citizen's Band?" In short, can I send data over CB? Michael Libes Sharpened Software Inc sharpen@halcyon.com Seattle, WA [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: First off, you may not 'broadcast' over CB. The Crazy Band is intended, by FCC regulations for *two-way* personal communications. 'Broadcast' by definition is a one-way transmission intended specifically in a non-personal way for a large number of listeners. Is another site going to be responding to you in kind, with data back to you? Anyway, I think all this is very academic. Good luck if you want to try it. I presume the place you are broadcasting -- ooops!, communicating with is not more than 75-100 yards away. More than that and some Good Buddy will walk all over you. Its bad enough when two persons in actual voice communication have to ask each other to repeat themselves over and over because some local yokels are running way over the legal power limit. (So then you run extra power in order to get past the interference and he cranks his up a little more, etc.) Here in the Chicago area there are times and places the CB/eleven meter airwaves are solid heterodyne as the guys try to shove each other off the air. In the Crazy Band, no matter how loud your radio is; no matter how much power you put out or how well you are modulated, there is always someone out there whose radio is louder and has more power. They'll be glad to demonstrate it, you don't have to take their word for it. Just ask; they'll turn on their linear amplifiers and their reverberation units wired in series with their power microphones and Break rake rake rake rake for a Radio Check heck heck heck heck heck heck, and tell two old ladies with little handheld units seventy five miles away to 'back it down out there and give someone else a crack at it ..." :) I'd love to see the data before you send it, and after the other end gets it ... if it gets there at all. PAT] ------------------------------ From: holo@PrimeNet.Com (Anthony Hologounis) Subject: Computers and VCRs Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 20:13:25 MST Organization: Primenet Looking for information: I install media retrieval systems in schools. There is a centrally located rack with vcr's and laser disks,the teachers are able to access these from the phone. Up till now this has been pretty slick. Well now, what with each classroom having at least one computer which is part of the campus network I was wondering what equipment is available to tie my media system into the network. This way the teacher can access the vcr, laser from his/her pc. Now that would be slick. ------------------------------ From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Biographies on Line Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 01:35:00 CST Don't forget that the Telecom Archives now has a special section for the biographical data supplied by participating readers. This section is not open to the general net public, and requires access via the Telecom Archives Email Information Service and a password which is provided to each person who supplies information about themselves. You decide what to say; what you want to tell others about your work, your plans, your goals and your life. Once you supply the data and it is installed in the Archives, you get a password and instructions on how to access the bigoraphies of other participants here. You can remove it or modify it as desired. It is strictly non-commercial and deliberatly restricted to give list compilers and junk-mailers a hard time, yet allow folks in the telecom industry to become aqauinted with one another. Send your biography to 'ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu'. I am installing them as fast as they come in (already about a dozen on line since this was announced a couple days ago). PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #30 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa12812; 14 Jan 95 12:18 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA14253; Sat, 14 Jan 95 08:11:21 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA14245; Sat, 14 Jan 95 08:11:17 CST Date: Sat, 14 Jan 95 08:11:17 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501141411.AA14245@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #31 TELECOM Digest Sat, 14 Jan 95 08:10:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 31 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson CFP: Feature Interactions in Communications Systems (Nancy Griffeth) Satellite / DECNet Problems (Edward B. Toupin) Acronym for "Information Superhighway" (Humor Listserv via Bill Edwards) Modem-Voice Incoming Call Switching (Jan Mandel) Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (David A. Webb) Old Rotary Service Question (Bill Parrish) Call Overflow Question (Mark Kelly) 360 Degrees of Jumping the Gun (Paul Robinson) FAQs on Campus Connectivity (routers@halcyon.com) Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (TELECOM Digest Editor) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nancyg@thumper.bellcore.com (Nancy Griffeth) Subject: CFP Feature Interactions in Communications Systems Organization: Morristown Research and Engineering Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 19:55:00 GMT Call for Participation Third International Workshop on Feature Interactions in Telecommunications Software Systems Kyoto, Japan October 11-13, 1995 Description: This workshop is the third in a series, whose mission is to encourage researchers from a variety of computer science specialties (software engineering, enterprise modeling, protocol engineering, distributed artificial intelligence, formal techniques, software testing, and distributed systems, among others) to apply their techniques to the feature interaction problem that arises in building telecommunications software systems (see the back page for a description of the problem). We welcome papers on avoiding, detecting, and/or resolving feature interactions using either analytical or structural approaches. Submissions are encouraged in (but are not limited to) the following topic areas: - Classification of feature interactions. - Modeling, reasoning, and testing techniques for detecting feature interactions. - Software platforms and architecture designs to aid in avoiding, detecting, and resolving feature interactions. - Tools and methodologies for promoting software compatibility and extensibility. - Mechanisms for managing feature interactions throughout the service life-cyle. - Management of feature interactions in PCS, ISDN, and Broadband services, as well as IN services. - Management of feature interactions in various of the operations support functions such as Service Negotiation, Service Management, and Service Assurance. - Feature Interactions and their potential impact on system Security and Safety. - Environments and automated tools for related problems in other software systems. - Management of Feature Interactions in various other enterprises, such as banking, medicine, etc. Format: We hope to promote a dialogue among researchers in various related areas, as well as the designers and builders of telecommunications software. To this end, the workshop will have sessions for paper presentations, including relatively long discussion periods. Panel discussions and tool demonstrations are also planned. The first day of the workshop, October 11, is devoted to tutorials and discussions on areas related to feature interactions. Attendance: Workshop attendance will be limited to 100 people. Attendance will be by invitation only. Prospective attendees are asked to submit either a paper (maximum 5000 words) or a single page description of their interests and how they relate to the workshop. Proposals for tutorials and discussions are also requested (maximum 3000 words). About 16-20 of the attendees will be asked to present talks; a small number of tutorials and/or discussions will also be selected. We will strive for an equal mix of theoretical results and practical experiences. Papers will be published in a conference proceedings. Submissions: Please send five copies of your full original paper or interest description to: Kong Eng Cheng Department of Computer Science Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology GPO Box 2476V Melbourne, Victoria AUSTRALIA 3001 E-mail: kec@cs.rmit.edu.au Tel: +61 3 660 3266 FAX: +61 3 662 1617 Important dates are: February 28, 1995: Submission of contributions. May 15, 1995: Notification of acceptance. June 26, 1995: Submission of camera-ready versions. Workshop Co-chairpersons Tadashi Ohta (ATR, Japan) Nancy Griffeth (Bellcore, USA) Program Committee Co-Chairpersons: Kong Eng Cheng (Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Australia) E. Jane Cameron (Bellcore, USA) Jan Bergstra (CWI and University of Amsterdam, The Netherlands) Ralph Blumenthal (Bellcore, USA) Rolv Braek (SINTEF DELAB, Norway) Bernie Cohen (City University of London, UK) Robert France (Florida Atlantic University, USA) Haruo Hasegawa (OKI, Japan) Dieter Hogrefe (University of Bern, Switzerland) Richard Kemmerer (UCSB, USA) Victor Lesser (University of Massachusetts, USA) Yow-Jian Lin (Bellcore, USA) Luigi Logrippo (University of Ottawa, Canada) Jan van der Meer (Ericsson, The Netherlands) Robert Milne (BNR, UK) Leo Motus (Tallinn Technical University, Estonia) Jacques Muller (CNET, France) Jan-Olof Nordenstam (ELLEMTEL, Sweden) Yoshihiro Niitsu (NTT, Japan) Ben Potter (University of Hertfordshire, UK) Henrikas Pranevicius (Kaunas University of Technology, Lithuania) Martin Sadler (HP, UK) Jean-Bernard Stefani (CNET, France) Greg Utas (BNR, USA) Jyri Vain (Institute of Cybernetics, Estonia) Hugo Velthuijsen (PTT Research, The Netherlands) Yasushi Wakahara (KDD R&D Laboratories, Japan) Ron Wojcik (BellSouth, USA) Pamela Zave (AT&T Bell Laboratories, USA) Workshop Statement: The feature interaction problem is a major obstacle to the rapid deployment of new telephone services. Some feature communications system. Telecommunications software is huge, real-time, and distributed; adding new features to a telecommunication system, like adding new functionalities to any large software system, can be very difficult. Each new feature may interact with many existing features, causing customer annoyance or total system breakdown. Traditionally, interactions were detected and resolved on a feature by feature basis by experts who are knowledgeable on all existing features. As the number of features grows to satisfy diverse needs of customers, managing feature interactions in a single administrative domain is approaching incomprehensible complexity. In a future marketplace where features deployed in the network may be developed by different operating companies and their associated vendors, the traditional approach is no longer feasible. How to detect, resolve, or even prevent the occurrence of feature interactions in an open network is now an important research issue. The feature interaction problem is not unique to telecommunications software; similar problems are encountered in any long-lived software system that requires frequent changes and additions to its functionality. Techniques in many related areas appear to be applicable to the management of feature interactions. Software methodologies for extensibility and compatibility, for example, could be useful for providing a structured design that can prevent many feature interactions from occurring. Features are typically design to suit the purposes of a user or business, hence Enterprise modeling will play a role in the identification of certain classes of interaction, in particular the solution of an interaction in one enterprise may not be desired by another. Formal specification, verification, and testing techniques, being widely used in protocol engineering and software engineering, contribute to the detection of interactions. Several causes of the problem, such as aliasing, timing, and the distribution of software components, are similar to issues in distributed systems. Cooperative problem solving, a promising approach for resolving interactions at run time, resembles distributed planning and resolution of conflicting subgoals among multiple agents in the area of distributed artificial intelligence. This workshop aims to provide an opportunity for participants to share ideas and experiences in their respective fields, and to apply their expertise to the feature interaction problem. Workshop Announcement: 3nd International Workshop on Feature Interactions in Telecommunications Software Systems, October 11-13, Kyoto, Japan, Sponsors: IEEE Communications Society. In cooperation with ACM SIGCOMM and ATR, Japan. Contact Tadashi Ohta, ATR, 2-2, Hikari-dai, Seika-cho, Soraku-gun, Kyoto, 619-02, Japan, Tel: +81 7749 5 1230, Fax: +81 7749 5 1208, e-mail: ohta@atr-sw.atr.co.jp. ------------------------------ From: etoupin@toupin.com (Edward B. Toupin) Subject: Satellite / DECNet Problems Date: 13 Jan 1995 15:53:26 GMT Organization: Edward B. Toupin Reply-To: sn=morrison%g=tom%i=p%dda=tel=3536%texaco@mcimail.com, The message is sent for an associate. TOM MORRISON writes: We currently have an application in which DEC VAXStations communicate through DECRouter 2000s. The local area network uses DECNet and the routers that connect disparate local area networks communicate via 56k leased data circuits. The required throughput on these circuits does not exceed 20k. It is our desire to provide a diverse route for data using an X.25 based double hop satellite system. This circuit configuration has approximately 1.5 seconds of processing and propogation delay. In testing the proposed configuration, 56kb modems were connected back to back to conduct 1 megabyte file transfers using X.25. In this configuraton, circuit throughput averaged 45kbps. The modems were then replaced with a satellite circuit which caused the throughput to drop off to 1100 bps! Incidently the satellite system provides local acknowledgements at the X.25 level and no flow control messages were seen. In evaluating the satellite throughput, we have been told that DECNet has a required acknowledgement for either one of four packets generated at the NSP level. This acknowledgement is hard coded into DECNet and can't be changed. These required acknowledgements, coupled with the long propogation time of the satellite system combine to limit throughput. Please provide any insight you may have to the following questions: 1. Are NSP acknowledgements required after each or every fourth packet? 2. We thought that adjusting the buffer sizes in the routers would change packet sizes, however, in monitoring data communication with Trace we didn't see any change in packet size. Can packet sizes be changed (increased)? 3. Has anyone had similar experiences with similar results? 4. Any ideas about how we may increase throughput in the double hop satellite system? Regards, Tom Morrison ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 12:53:13 EST From: Bill Subject: Acronym for "Information Superhighway" For the benefit of the readers... Bill Edwards, HUMOR listowner, BEDWARDS@UGA.BITNET (uga.cc.uga.edu) ===================================================================== To leave HUMOR send LISTSERV@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU the command SIGNOFF HUMOR To subscribe send LISTSERV@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU the command SUB HUMOR Call- name FamilyName. A command goes in the 1st line of the message field. -------------Original message-------------- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 19:03:12 -0500 Sender: UGA Humor List From: "Greg V." Subject: Acronym INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY: Interactive Network For Organizing, Retrieving, Manipulating, Accessing, and Transferring Information On National Systems, Unleashing Practically Every Rebellious Human Intelligence, Gratifying Hackers, Wiseasses, And Yahoos. Thanks to Kevin Kwaku, who obvoiusly has way too much time on his hands. - Greg V. NYGreg@AOL.COM "Roadkill on the Information Superhighway" ---------------- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Gee, it sounds just like the CB Radio era back in the late 1970's when CB was at its height of popularity. The crazy people ruined CB ... I guess now they will make things so miserable on the Internet large numbers of people will drop out. PAT] ------------------------------ From: jmandel@carbon.cudenver.edu (Jan Mandel) Subject: Modem-Voice Incoming Call Switching Date: 13 Jan 1995 11:31:39 -0700 Organization: University of Colorado at Denver A while ago I have posted a question how to switch incoming calls to an answering machine or a modem. Many have pointed out that incoming modem call is just silence and it is the answering modem that makes the shreeking noise. Thank you all. Consequently to decide if the incoming call is modem or not one would have to subject all callers to the unpleasant shreek. Here is another possible solution: let an answering machine take all calls. If there is silence on the line after the beep (all answering machines can detect this condition), let it time out and switch to the answering modem. Since I need this for my office where after office hours I would dial in or others may call in to leave a message, that would work for my needs. I'll set the timeout for my calling modem large so that it waits longer for the carrier. I was also looking for a modem setup parameter like "answer only after 60 seconds" for the asnwering side but could find none. Anyone knows what hardware I may need for this? I need to buy an answering machine for the office anyway so I may just as well buy the right one. I already have a pair of Hayes Accura 288 V.FC modems a year old. No, I canot use alternate ring because this is a PBX line. This whole exercise is because of our phone bozos who will not let me have another PBX (=cheap) line in the office once they heard we have modems, for fear I actually might use it. A separate telco line would be too expensive. TIA for any suggestions. Jan Mandel, Center for Computational Math, University of Colorado at Denver jmandel@colorado.edu ------------------------------ From: mudaw@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (David A. Webb) Subject: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio Date: 13 Jan 1995 17:55:40 -0600 Organization: Educational Computing Network Dear Moderator, I was rather impressed with your knowledge of FCC regulations. I read that you are an attorney, and I know time is money, but I thought you would be interested in my situation. University police searched my dorm room in November, 1992 after I consented to the search. (Mistake #1) An officer found my 2 meter amateur transceiver, turned it on, and discovered it could transmit on frequencies licensed to the local county police. I was not in my room during the time of the search, so I had no control over its operation. The radio was confiscated, and I had to defend myself in front of the school board. The school did not find me in violation of any rules because I had a statement from a county officer who is also a Ham. The officer wrote he knew my radio was legal for me to possess. I was never accused of using the radio. I was never charged in a court of law concerning the radio. I petitioned the court for the return of personal property. This was December 20, 1994. I didn't take any evidence to support my side (Mistake #2). The States attorney had three witnesses. Witness #1 was the university officer who stated under oath that he used the radio to transmit on county frequencies to verify the modifications. He also stated in his professional capacity that my radio is illegally modified, and therefor illegal to possess. He further stated that he called the FCC and was told my radio is illegal to possess. Witness #2 was the county sheriff. He indicated in his professional capacity that my radio was illegal to own. He also voiced understandable concern for my capability to interfere with his frequencies. Witness #3 was a person who services amateur equipment. He stated that my radio is type accepted, and therefor it is illegal to modify. Illegal modification therefor makes my radio illegal to possess. The University officer must have called the field office in Chicago, because when I called there, I was also told my radio is illegal to possess. I called the Washington office, and the Director of the Private Radio Division is sending me a statement which will say that my radio is legal for anyone to possess, and its use is regulated by the FCC. (unless local laws prohibit a radio which will transmit on police channels) Witness #2 was simply giving an opinion. Witness #3 was wrong about the type acceptance. Amateur equipment transmitters are not type accepted. Its internal receiver it accepted to receive everything it was modified to receive. I tried to submit the county officer/ham's statement, and the states attorney objected because the officer was not present for cross examination. Am I going to run into the same trouble when I try to submit the statement from the Private Radio Division of the FCC? If so, how can I get around this obstacle? I reported the discrepancy of the field office to the FCC's General Councils Office, and they will be investigating the person who gave me the faulty information. Although the university police violated FCC rules, it occurred over a year ago, and therefor time limits on me reporting them has expired. Neither the States Attorney, nor any of his witnesses, presented the judge with any law I *supposedly* violated. The judge ruled to NOT allow me to have my radio back UNLESS I paid to have it unmodified. I filed a motion for the Judge to reconsider his ruling, which is scheduled for February 9. The reason I have opted to do this on my own is that the radio isn't worth more than a few hundred bucks. I am pursuing this on the principal. My radio is legal for me to own, and I am tired of the harassment from university police. Please send your comments to me at mudaw@ecom.ecn.bgu.edu. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: First, and most important, I am not an attorney, and you are not my client. I will suggest that depending on how strongly you feel about the principles involved here and getting your equipment returned, you *should* consult an attorney who specializes in communications law, preferably in your community if possible, although quite a few (most?) of those people are in practice in Washington, DC and environs. We do have attornies whose practice is specialized in the area of federal communications law on the Digest mailing list, and perhaps one or more of them will respond to you directly at least once on a pro-bono basis offering some suggestions or help. My feeling is the cost involved for *good* legal representation in this area will be far in excess of the value of the equipment involved. This will have to be your decision in connection with any discussions you have with an attorney who is competent to assist you. I cannot do so. Good luck with this. Perhaps other Digest readers will have suggestions also. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Bill Parrish Subject: Old Rotary Service Question Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 7:58:32 PST Pat's reply to the thread about scanners and cordless phones dealing with party lines reminded me of something I had always wondered about. In the early 70s, I went to UCSB, and we were serviced by GTE in the dorms. Occasionaly folks would decide to "share" a phone connection by making their own patches into terminal cabinets ... resulting in an illegal but effective party line arrangement. I recall that if the phone had the wrong type of filter in it that you would sometimes get the "pinging" sound rather than a vigorous "ring" when an incoming call came in. But there was a second funny thing about these "extensions" that was rather odd ... you sometimes could not make long distance calls on them ... and that always seemed odd to me. If I recall right, there was some sort of a movable pin on the back of the dial that could be put into one of several (three?) positions, and if you moved the pin, it would enable the long-distance capability. Could someone explain how that worked? (I could be remembering wrong ... it's been a long time, but I always wondered how that worked). Bill Parrish (916) 785-4986 M6KV Hewlett Packard Systems Technology Division 8000 Foothills Blvd. Roseville, CA 95747-5596 HPDesk: Bill_parrish@hp5200.desk.hp.com Unix to Unix: bparrish@hprpcd.rose.hp.com Fax: (916) (or TELNET) - 785-3096 ------------------------------ From: mkelly@gabriel.resudox.net (Mark Kelly) Subject: Call Overflow Question Date: 13 Jan 1995 22:38:58 GMT Organization: Resudox Online Services I have question for the telephony wizards out there. A single number DN #1 has been assigned to a trunk group (say a T1, 24 channels). When all 24 channels are busy, its desirable to route all incoming calls to the DN #1 to another number (DN #2). Can anyone think of a way to do this that doesn't involve adding a extra trunk group at the switch and pointing it to the second number. Any suggestions or hints would be welcome. Mark Kelly Advanced Multi-Point Conferencing 320 March Road, Suite 102 Kanata, Ontario K2L 1Z8 1-800-900-4249 (Reservations) 1-613-592-5752 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 19:33:42 EST From: Paul Robinson Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA Subject: 360 Degrees of Jumping the Gun I decided to check Pat Towson's comments about the 630 area code in Chicago. I first tried 1-700-555-1212 and it told me I have AT&T. I dialed 1-630-555-1212 and when asked what city, I asked the operator if it was the Chicago operator, and she said yes. I realized I really didn't have a reason to call anyone there. So, next I decided to see if the new area codes are in place here, and dialed 1-360-555-1 Oops, the phone times out on me! Now, for the fun part. I dial 611 and explain that I *can* call 1-630 but *can't* call 1-360 and the agent says "It must be in your phone." Yeah, right. I explained that I have dialed the number by going through 1-800-CALL-ATT and using a calling card. I explained that the same thing happens from other phones, on different lines. She put me on hold and when she came back she said that there is a routing problem, and she'll write up a trouble ticket. We'll see what happens. It must have been difficult (knowing my trouble with Bell Atlantic) because I got a return call a few minutes ago, about an hour after I placed the call to 611. According to the person calling me, the "official" date that area code 360 goes into effect isn't until tomorrow, which is why Bell Atlantic is not accepting calls placed to that area code yet. So, if the statment is correct, those places that are accepting calls to the 360 area code are actually "jumping the gun". ------------------------------ From: routers@halcyon.com Subject: FAQs on Campus Connectivity Date: 13 Jan 1995 12:14:06 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. NEW ANSWERS FOR FAQs ON CAMPUS NETWORKS AND CONNECTIVITY This posting may be freely distributed to Internet and commercial online sites. Date: January 12, 1994 Keywords: UTP distance standards, campus networks connectivity, ethernet, wireless, LAN, microwave, repeaters, video 1. QUESTION: What is the maximum bandwidth that 4-wire copper UTP can handle in campus environments? ANSWER: ---E-1 up to 2.5 miles (4 km) 2. QUESTION: What is the longest distance that 4-wire copper UTP can transmit at T-1 band width? ANSWER: ---5 miles (8 km), up to 7 miles (11.2 km) with a repeater 3. QUESTION: Can you transmit data, voice, and video across 4-wire UTP at the same time without cross-talk? ANSWER: ---Yes 4. QUESTION: What is the maximum distance that ethernet at 10 Mbps can be extended? ANSWER: ---1500 ft (495 m), up to 3000 ft (990 m) with repeater 5. QUESTION: Is there a wireless solution that would allow a campus to connect all buildings together, and allow any PC or laptop computer on campus to communicate, even if they move about the campus? ANSWER: ---Yes. One solution allows building -to- building connections up to 6 miles (9.6 km), and allows any PC or laptop to be on line. It operates at 2 Mbps, has SNMP, and requires no FCC licence. 6. QUESTION: Are there any wireless solutions at 10 Mbps for LAN-to-LAN connections? ANSWER: ---Yes. A microwave solution allows LANs to connect up to 5 miles (8 km). This same system has options that will allow voice, data, and video at the same time, in either 4 -T1 slots, or 8 -T1 slots. The 8 -T1 version can handle 192 voice-grade circuits. For further information and product data sheets, please contact Router Solutions (routers@halcyon.com), or check our FTP site: ftp.halcyon.com /pub/local/routers ------------------------------ From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 08:00:00 CST Listening to WNIB on the radio this Saturday morning as I work on this issue ... the eight o'clock news says 'up to six more inches of rain due in California throughout the weekend ... more evacuations probably will be required ...' Well, good luck and my best regards, folks. It seems like the people in California spend all summer burning the place down, then spend all winter enduring mud slides and flooding. We are getting a lot of rain here today also, but the only effect has been to melt all the snow which had accumulated and leave some *huge* puddles of water to navigate at curbs where the street sewers are plugged, etc. Have the floods in California affected telephone service to any extent? PAT ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #31 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa00456; 16 Jan 95 15:01 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20808; Mon, 16 Jan 95 09:19:07 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20797; Mon, 16 Jan 95 09:19:04 CST Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 09:19:04 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501161519.AA20797@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #32 TELECOM Digest Mon, 16 Jan 95 09:19:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 32 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Stephen P. Sorkin) Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Aryeh M. Friedman) Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Olcay Cirit) Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Mark Nichols) Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Clarence Dold) Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Benjamin P. Carter) Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Steven H. Lichter) Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Rich Greenberg) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Peter Laws) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Bill Sohl) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Bruce Roberts) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Bill Mayhew) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mars!ssorkin@uunet.uu.net (Stephen P. Sorkin) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Date: 16 Jan 1995 07:10:05 GMT Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles > Have the floods in California affected telephone service to any extent? A sink hole tore through an interoffice cable in Long Beach or Torrance (I can't remember which). That cut off several thousand calls. We had a problem with our old lead shielded drop cable (water shorted it out). Stephen ssorkin@calstatela.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 00:18:44 +0800 From: aryeh@cash.UCSC.EDU (Aryeh M. Friedman) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Organization: UCSC Dept of Econ We have had spotty outages in Pac Bell and GTE land soem of West LA was out earl last week and my calls to up north are getting all circuit busy very often. Aryeh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 02:33:50 PST From: olcay@libtech.com (olcay cirit) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? > Have the floods in California affected telephone service to any extent? Not to my knowledge, although Libtech has experienced a four-day power outage to the high winds and rain. But then again, we weren't flooded. Sometimes I wish PG&E was as dependable as AT&T. ;) olcay ------------------------------ From: Mark Nichols Organization: Belmont Information Services Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 03:26:02 PST Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? In article TELECOM Digest Editor writes: > Have the floods in California affected telephone service to any extent? I tried several times yesterday to place a service call to "611" and after several no-answers of 20 rings or more, I called the operator. She said they're taking names manually of people they need to call back to log a problem report. In other words, I can expect to wait "several days" just to get the opportunity to log a service call, which itself might take some time to address. Yes, the service has been affected. I'm in Pac-Bell land, although on Tuesday I had similar problems in Ventura County, GTE land. ------------------------------ From: Clarence Dold Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 05:05:48 PST Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Organization: a2i network WHAT!!! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!! MY LINES ARE WET AND THERE'S A LOT OF STATIC!!! I TRIED 611 AND GET A SIT, all circuits are busy. Actually, the static is _so_ bad, that I often can't draw dialtone, although I can receive calls. If I do get dialtone, I can't break dialtone with DTMF, although I can dial. On some incoming calls, I would suddenly get stutter dialtone, as if i had hit flash-hook. Incoming calls answer themselves midway through the first ring, as the CO detects line current, due to the ring voltage conducting through the swamp I call a pasture, even though we have overhead lines. Wonderful thing, these error-correcting modems... ;-) More in line with what I think you were asking: Except for a lot of individual lines being out due to insulation/moisture problems, I don't know of any trouble. There don't appear to be any COs down in the Napa area. I work for an IXC, and other than static on lines, service has been good in the flood area. Clarence A Dold - dold@rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This reminds me of the tunnel flood here in Chicago a couple years ago. For a few days after the flood had been brought under control but before all the water had dissapated and the underground cables dried out, the amount of cross-talk on the lines was incredible. Dial tone of course was very slow as people made up for a few days of being unable to use the phone at all, and in the typical ten to twenty second wait for dial tone, you'd hear six different conver- sations in the background all at one time; none of them very clearly, just like a bunch of people in a room at a party everyone talking to someone else. Once dial tone was delivered to your line, all the cross- talk would go away, but during your connection itself, if you and your party were silent for a few seconds and you listened closely, you would hear a couple other people talking, way off in the background, not loud enough or well enough to understand what they were saying most of the time. The City Hall public information phone lines served as the center for information during the flood week, and those lines themselves went out of order on the first day when the water filled the basement of City Hall and doused the phone cables there. But amazingly, when so much of the downtown area was without phone service crews managed to keep the City Hall information lines up and running all but for about three or four hours. I remember calling to get an update early that afternoon and the lady telling me the rest of City Hall had been evacuated 'except for the information phone lines and the centrex operators, we will stay as long as our lines are up ...'. About 45 minutes later their lines went under also but in about three hours they were answering again from another location, across the street in the Chicago Temple Building, giving updates on the flood conditions to thousands of callers. The cross-talk was not just confined to outgoing calls from the downtown area, although that is where it was worst. When someone from outside the area called downtown, mainly into the Wabash or Franklin COs, as soon as your call left your CO and hit one of those, you'd get a click on the line, static and cross-talk in the background as the phone rang at the place you were calling. Once they answered -- if they did -- the cross-talk mostly went away. The rain on Saturday here was the cause of a lot of very wet demarcs and such, because of strong winds blowing the rain sideways at you and getting it into literally everything; cracks in the window of your house, etc. PAT] ------------------------------ From: bpc@netcom.com (Benjamin P. Carter) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 01:00:21 GMT TELECOM Digest Editor writes: > Well, good luck and my best regards, folks. It seems like the people > in California spend all summer burning the place down, Actually, we have more fires in late autumn, when the vegetation is dryest and most flammable. > then spend all winter enduring mud slides and flooding. Did you forget about our earthquakes? And worst of all is our state legislature in Sacramento. It makes the U.S. Congress look responsible by comparison. > We are getting a lot of rain here today also, but the only effect > has been to melt all the snow which had accumulated and leave some > *huge* puddles of water to navigate at curbs where the street sewers > are plugged, etc. > Have the floods in California affected telephone service to any extent? Well, the prices just went up, but that is probably unrelated to the floods. (Pac Bell and GTE can expect a flood of complaints about the bills they are sending out this month.) Ben Carter internet address: bpc@netcom.com [TELEOCM Digest Editor's Note: No, I did not forget about the earthquakes. That one at Northridge (?) in particular was something else. Last year was pretty tragic all over California, and apparently 1995 is starting out badly for the folks there also. Your legislature may be bad, but wait until you see the Chicago City Council -- what a bunch of clowns they are. Did you know in the election coming up (for City Council members) we have six ex-felons running for office? Seriously ... and over a dozen of the ones who have been in office in the past seven or eight years have been found guilty of something and sent to the penitentiary. Real bunch of winners, all. PAT] ------------------------------ From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Date: 16 Jan 1995 03:45:17 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Both PacBell and GTE have had spot outages. The Laguna Beach CO, which was seen on the news, but nothing was said as what it was, had sand bags and other blocks to prevent any more damage. I had heard that one RSU way up north was running on its own since the Fiber cable got washed out. I would say it was either good planning or just plan luck that more damage was not done. Though I'm sure that the people out here that lost service were not happy. My computer kept going even though we lost power since I have a UPS on it and the one I have could run a Lan so it stayed up for almost an hour, running my BBS. but no calls. Sysop: Apple Elite II -=- an Ogg-Net Hub BBS Home of GBBS/LLUCE support (909) 359-5338 12/24/14.4 V32/V42bis ------------------------------ From: richgr@netcom.com (Rich Greenberg) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 23:33:14 GMT The forcast on the local news station (KFWB) Saturday morning about 7am PST was predicting about an inch, 70% chance of rain Saturday night and Sunday. At the moment (3:30pm pst) its overcast and dry. There were some periods of sun yesterday and today. > Have the floods in California affected telephone service to any extent? Not in my local area (Near LAX airport). The two hardest hit areas are Malibu and an area south of here (I forget the name). (A later update) .... The "70% chance of rain" is now 100% at my place. Light so far. Rich Greenberg Work: TBA. Know anybody needing a VM guru? N6LRT TinselTown, USA Play: richgr@netcom.com 310-649-0238 Pacific time. I speak for myself & my dogs only. Canines: Val(Chinook,CGC), Red(Husky,(RIP)), Shasta(Husky) ------------------------------ From: plaws@comp..uark.edu (Peter Laws) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 15 Jan 1995 18:30:09 GMT Organization: University of Arkansas Bob Keller writes: >> Sorry, that is absolutely false. The FCC part 15 rules are the >> specifc requirements for which RF devices must be tested against by >> the FCC to CERTIFY them for initial sale to the public. That is all >> that the rules govern ... initial certification. The rules do not grant >> any "authority to operate" the device, nor do the forbid operation of >> any certified device that has been modified after the initial sale nor >> do they forbid operation of any uncertified device that may have been >> built from scratch. Bottom line...Part 15 rules impose absolutely NO >> duty on the consumer. > I don't agree. Rule 15.1(b) provides: > "The operation of an intentional or unintentional radiator ^^^^^^^^ RADIATOR!!! Not receiver!! *Transmitters* are a "whole nother" thing. Radiator != receiver (I'll leave aside poorly shielded local oscillators:). Peter Laws|"Suppose you were a politician. Now suppose you n5uwy@ka5bml.#nwar.ar.usa.noam |were an idiot. Ah, but I repeat myself."-Twain ------------------------------ From: billsohl@earth.planet.net (Bill Sohl Budd Lake) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 15 Jan 1995 07:51:02 GMT Organization: Planet Access Networks - Stanhope, NJ Bob Keller (rjk@telcomlaw.com) wrote: >> Sorry, that is absolutely false. The FCC part 15 rules are the >> specifc requirements for which RF devices must be tested against by >> the FCC to CERTIFY them for initial sale to the public. That is all >> that the rules govern ... initial certification. The rules do not grant >> any "authority to operate" the device, nor do the forbid operation of >> any certified device that has been modified after the initial sale nor >> do they forbid operation of any uncertified device that may have been >> built from scratch. Bottom line...Part 15 rules impose absolutely NO >> duty on the consumer. > I don't agree. Rule 15.1(b) provides: > "The operation of an intentional or unintentional radiator > that is not in accordance with the regulations in this part > must be licensed pursuant to the provisions of Section 301 > of the Communications Act, as amended, unless otherwise > exempted from the licensing requirements elsewhere in this > chapter." I have no problem with this statement and I'll state unequivocally that scanners and/or other types of radio receivers are not (if designed properly) included in the catagory "intentional or unintential radiator" and they are not, therefore, licensed. > Note that this rule addresses _operation_ of the device. In most, if > not all, radio services, the modified device would not be properly > type accepted in the applicable service which would, in turn, preclude > licensing of its use pursuant to Section 301 except in special cases > (e.g., an experimental or developmental authorization, or possibly > certain amateur radio uses within ham bands and subject to ham rules). Agreed, but again, radio receivers and scanners are not described anywhere as a radio service. Bill Sohl previously said: >> Anyone can buy any commercial receiver (or scanner, or TV, or >> computer, etc.) and modify it in any way they want and not be in >> violation (as you claim) of any law. Additionally, hobbyists have >> been building their own receivers and/or modifying commercial (as well >> as military surplus) receivers for years. Doing so is not a crime, >> nor does it render the use of any such home built or modified RECEIVER >> illegal. Furthermore, there is NO license required to build, modify, >> repair or otherwise tinker with any radio receiving equipment used by >> the general population. > I am not sure that this statement can be squared with Section 15.21 of > the FCC Rules which provides: > "The users manual or instruction manual for an intentional > or unintentional radiator shall caution the user that > changes or modifications not expressly approved by the > party responsible for compliance could void the user's > authority to operate the equipment." I have seen this warning in various part 15 "radiating" devices such as my daughter's remote control dancing Barbie, baby monitors, and other devices which are use some type of transmitting capability. I have seen no such warning in any receiving only equipment. > While I would not necessarily go so far as to label scanner and other > receiver adjustments and/or modifications as necessarily or even > likely "criminal," it is nonetheless important to keep in mind two > important factors: > (1) A device or a circuit within a device that is > "receive-only" may still be (and in the case of > radio receivers usually is) either an intentional > or unintentional radiator within the meaning of > Part 15 of the Rules; and If it is then where is the case law? Who has EVER been prosecuted. How would this "square" with one's ability to build their own radio receiving equipment? Are all those "do-it-yourself" hobbyists breaking the law? A receive-only device should certainly never fall into the catagory of an "intentional radiator." If a receive only device, after being modified, becomes an unintential radiator (that is, it is emitting RF beyond a certain allowed limit) then its operation would be illegal, BUT modifying the frequency coverage of a receive-only device without changing the amount of incidental RF emitted beyond an allowed limit, would not make it an unintential radiator. > (2) Without even getting into the debate over the special > statutory and regulatory provisions applicable to > cellular-capable scanners, there is a _big_ > difference between opening up a device to repair, allign, > or adjust it and modifying the manufacturer's design > features of the device. Bob's comments above really focus on the "potential" RF radiating associated with any electronic device. That is not the issue with all modifications, and would not, I contend, even likely be a problem for the frequency coverage type modification that is accomplished by "diode clipping" on many CELLULAR blocked scaners manufactured in the past. Note also that all of the above talks about the possibility of losing the authority to operate ... it does not say that you can't clip diodes or make modifications ... it just indicates that for SOME services, modifications MAY render the device as "unusable" because it no longer complies with part 15. The act of making the modification is not, howver, defined or identified as being illegal, nor does it say that the device, once modified is illegal to own or subject to forfeiture by the FCC, nor does it say that the person making the modification is breaking the law. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you, Bob. Section 15.21 is all > I was trying to get across to readers here. No, one does not have to > have a 'license', ie. written document or whatever to operate a > receiving only radio; authority is automatically given when you buy > it from a licensed source. So where does authority come from when you "build it yourself?" As above, are you claiming it is illegal or a violation of part 15 to build electroonic equipment as an individual ... be it receivers, computers, etc ... all of which, when produced commercially, must be part 15 certified? You can't have it both ways. If it is illegal to modify it must, therefore, by logical extension be illegal to build your own. If it is not illegal to build your own, then modifying an existing device (a commercially certified device) just turns it into a do-it-yourself project with most of the work already completed which is, therefore, legal! > But as soon as you tamper with the innards and make changes in how > or what the radio receives, and how it processes what it receives *and > you are an unlicensed person* -- that is, you lack a tech ticket -- > then according the FCC and 15.21 you lose your authority (albiet > granted originally by default) to 'operate' the radio, which may > amount to nothing more than twisting the off/on switch and the tuning > dial. Pat, the FCC doesn't even require a second class radio license to do repair work on most commercial transmitting gear anymore, I don't need any license to build my own radio receiver OR modify an existing receiver, nor do I need any license (real or implied) to operate receive only equipment. It just ain't so! > May I suggest to readers the next time you decide to purchase some sort of > radio, or television perhaps, *look at the user manual*. You'll find the warning in radio control devices, baby monitors, and other devices intended to radiate; you won't find it in TV manuals, stereo receiver manuals, and other receive only device manuals. And, even if such a warning was included ... it has no impact ... it ranks up there with the "Do Not Remove This Label" warning found on furniture. > Read the manual. Note the legal verbiage in there somewhere about > *losing your 'authority' to operate the darn thing if you make > unlicensed repairs or modifications*. Why do you think General > Electric, Best Buy, K-Mart, Wal-Mart, etc and oh yeah! Radio Shack > put that admonition in there? The FCC *requires* them to do so. No one needs any authority from the FCC to operate a receiver ... that's one of the fundamental differences between the USA and many other countries. Yes, commercial radio receivers must be certified to be sold, but subsequent modification or repair by anyone has not now nor has it ever in the past led to an individual "losing the authority" to operate the receiver (or scanner). Likewise, anyone can build a radio receiver from indiviual parts they buy at Radio Shack. The resulting radio has NO certification, nor does it require any ... the builder is in violation of nothing. Indeed, Radio Shack sells such "do-it-yourself" radio kits all the time. Let me state catagorically here ... I have built my own receivers, I have modified commercial receivers, I will continue to do so in the future, I have done nothing illegal, I have defied no law, I am not in any way afraid of the FCC "revoking" my authority to operate any of the receiving equipment I own because they don't have the authority to prohibit me from using that equipment as long as it isn't acting as a radiator beyond certin defined limits. Please if anyone can bring any example to this discussion of where any individual has been prosecuted for modification of any type of receive only equipment I'd welcome the information. Until then saying it is illegal to modify receivers is not going to make it so. On a final note, nothing here is intended to condone listening to CORDLESS or CELLULAR phone conversations which is illegal. However, owning the receiving equipment capable of listening, is NOT illegal. Indeed, receiving equipment capable of receiving CORDLESS is absolutely legal to be manufactured and imported today. Receiving equipment capable of receiving CELLULAR became illegal to manufacture or import after 4/26/94 (but was absolutely legal to manufacture and import before that). Owning such equipment is absolutely legal. Cheers, Bill Sohl K2UNK (Budd lake, New Jersey) (billsohl@planet.net) ------------------------------ From: bruce.roberts@greatesc.com (Bruce Roberts) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 12:46:00 GMT Organization: The Great Escape - Gardena, CA - (310) 676-3534 Tony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) wrote: > Actually the AOR-2500 comes through with the cell band intact. Or at > least it did until the FCC attempted to clamp down on it. The nice > thing is the AOR-2500 is considered a communications receiver and not > a scanner and last I heard the whole thing was still tied up in > hearings. And the AOR-1000 hand held scanner with continuous coverage can still be purchased. These are "refurbished" units that look like new, come with all the accessories and the same warranty as the "new" model. The price, coincidentally, is the same as the "new" model which has the cellular bands blocked. TTFN -br- ------------------------------ From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 20:17:39 GMT Section [15.21] covers intentional and unintentional radiators. I don't interpret that as specifically germaine to receiving eqipment, unless the equipment uses a local oscillator or some other detection process that produces RF emission. A passive TRF receiver should be exempt from part 15. Any manufacturer producing a TRF unit would still probably find itself under the thumb of the FCC anyway, having to prove such claims. John Q. Public is free do anything as long as it doesn't violate part 15. This means that any hacks done have to be in compliance with emission regualtions as set forth in various subparts. Part 15 doesn't prohibit modifications. Of course you might need a good lawyer to prove that, and a lot of money too. There is relatively little chance John Q. Public is going to have the time and financial resources to outlast the FCC's limitless patience and funding. The ECPA is what attempts to regulate what your permission to receive. Ins't it great when our government tries to function as our proxy to protect us from ourselves? Grrrr. Bill Mayhew NEOUCOM Computer Services Department Rootstown, OH 44272-0095 USA phone: 216-325-2511 wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu amateur radio 146.58: N8WED [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My point exactly. It is very hard if not impossible to win anything from those people. And to Bill Sohl, yes of course you can make those kits from Radio Shack yourself, *as long as you made them exactly as described in the kit instructions*. Add a few pieces, or change a few values from those given or furnished in the kit, and you have broken the law, IMO. Also please note the warning in the instructions of so many devices which say in essence, 'you must tolerate any interference which comes as a result of someone else operating a licensed radiator, and you yourself are forbidden to cause any interference. If you cause interference, you must disconnect this device, etc ...' PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #32 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa10964; 17 Jan 95 14:59 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19046; Tue, 17 Jan 95 09:15:08 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19036; Tue, 17 Jan 95 09:15:04 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 09:15:04 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501171515.AA19036@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #33 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 09:15:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 33 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson New Area Codes Working From Toronto (Dave Leibold) Cell Phone Programming - Follow-up (Alex McPhail) Caller ID Software (and Hardware) (Alex McPhail) Telplus 1648 Phone System Peripherals, Phones (James Deibele) Telecom Market Reports on Web (Joseph Flicek) Canadian Area Code Information Now on a WWW Page (Dave Leibold) Mercury Computer Products Now on the WWW (dspnet!dspadmin@uunet.uu.net) Computer Telephony Convention (fonaudio@ix.netcom.com) Alert! USWest Cellular in 360/206 (Alan Shen) Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Just Names (Tim Bach) Anyone from Globalstar, Inmarsat, Iridium or Odyssey? (Eric Tholome) Looking for TDM Box (Andrew P. Dinsdale) PC-Based Voice Mail and AMIS (David Reeve) BC Tel, SaskTel, Internet (Sarah Holland) T1BBS Gone? (Mark Fraser) Help Needed With Displaying X Windows on the PC (Ken Stack) US <> Puerto Rico: Options? (James Dollar) Where to Find Nice-Looking Phones? (Philip Borenstein) Distinctive Ringing Specifications (Vincent Lai) Returning Blocked Local Calls to b e Discontinued in Canada (Dave Leibold) Reports on Internet Communication Links (Christopher Dyke) How to Improve Line Quality? (scorpion@phantom.com) Programmable Touch-Tone Interpreter Needed (Jeffrey A. Porten) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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In particular, there appear to be no problems dialing the new area codes from payphones. As of Sunday (the official start-up for the area codes is 15 Jan 95), 334 (Alabama), 360 (Washington state) and 630 (Chicago area) area codes appeared to be working, if reaching directory assistance numbers in those places is any indication. 520 (Arizona) is not active yet nor is 970 (Colorado). Strangely enough, I got the Seattle Public Library number from the (360) operator (360 should not include Seattle). For (630) 555.1212, I requested the number for the Skokie, Illinois library and got it (just the seven digit numbers retrieved in most cases, no mention of the area codes in the robotic replies). Dialing numbers in inactive area codes obtain strange messages from Bell Canada's recordings ... things like the numbers aren't long distance calls, etc. rather than mere not-in-service recordings. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Speaking of the Skokie Public Library, I was over there for a few hours this afternoon looking at some very old reference materials on microfilm: Haines Cross Reference (crisscross) directories from the 1950-60 era and Skokie telephone books for the same period of time. PAT] ------------------------------ From: amcphail@hookup.net (Alex McPhail) Subject: Cell Phone Programming - Follow-Up Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 05:19:35 GMT Organization: TeraScope Research I posted an article a while ago, but haven't had any luck yet (except to hear from others that they too would like the same information). I am looking for how to re-program a cell phone's phone number for the TechnoFone and the Motorola FlipPhone cellular phones. If anyone as any information about this, or knows where I can look, I would appreciate a reply. Thanks in advance, Alex McPhail TeraScope Research amcphail@hookup.net Voice: +1 (613) 730-1416 Fax: +1 (613) 730-1408 ------------------------------ From: amcphail@hookup.net (Alex McPhail) Subject: Caller ID Software (and Hardware) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 05:17:22 GMT Organization: TeraScope Research Someone asked some time ago about caller ID software for the PC. Sorry for the delay, but I just came across something here and it reminded me of the posting earlier. A company in Canada, called VIVE, sells caller ID hardware and software for the PC. For more information, call the company at (905) 882-6107 and ask for extension 16, 20, or 25. Or you can call their fax-back product description service at (905) 882-6238 and press '8'. Alex McPhail TeraScope Research amcphail@hookup.net Voice: +1 (613) 730-1416 Fax: +1 (613) 730-1408 ------------------------------ From: jamesd@teleport.com (James Deibele) Subject: Telplus 1648 Phone System Peripherals, Phones Date: 16 Jan 1995 22:01:04 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 We are now the proud owners of a Telplus 1648 phone system. We're reasonably happy with the system but we have a couple of questions about expanding it. First thing is getting more phones -- is there a good place to buy them? Are there any portables available? My Tropez 900MHz doesn't have the range I hoped for (it may be good for 2000 feet outdoors (though I haven't tried it) but it only goes down five floors or so from our eighth floor office -- so much for checking wiring in the basement with it nearby) but I have gotten used to the portability. Second thing is that we were told that it was possible to get voicemail for the thing. Doing this probably involves buying an analog card and attaching an external unit. Does anybody have any suggestions on where to find a system that's known to work? Ideally we'd end up with voice mail, automated attendant, etc. This is our second phone system and we don't expect it to last forever -- the future clearly seems to be computer/telephone integration. But we're a Windows/Mac/UNIX shop and that makes it a little more difficult to come up with a solution that fits everybody. Thanks, jamesd@teleport.com "7104 newsgroups & nothing on ..." Full internet (ftp, telnet, irc, ppp) available. Voice: (503) 223-0076 Portland: (503) 220-1016 Vancouver: (360) 260-0330 Salem: (503) 364-2028 Bend, Corvallis, Eugene access coming in February. ------------------------------ From: Joseph Flicek Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 01:13:00 -0500 Subject: Telecom Market Reports on Web BLAKE TECHNOLOGIES, Ltd. 1 West 67th Street, suite 410, NY, NY 10023 Tel:(212) 580-2272 Fax:(212) 595-4278 Email: flicekjr@pipeline.com URL: http://adware.com/mall/blake/welcome.html SUBJECT: MARKET TREND REPORTS ARE NOW AVAILABLE ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB AT: URL: http://adware.com/mall/blake/welcome.html REPORT TYPES BY KEY WORDS: CD-ROM, ON-LINE, TELCOM INDUSTRY, LIBRARIES, EDUCATION, ELECTRIC POWER INDUSTRY, CHILDREN'S PUBLISHING, INTERACTIVE TV & VIDEO. If you have any difficulty locating the WEB please email, call or write. Thank you. ------------------------------ From: woody Subject: Canadian Area Code Information Now on a WWW Page Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:40:19 EST Various charts of exchanges for Canadian area codes, plus bonus charts for Canadian long distance carrier codes (10xxx, 950) and 809 (Caribbean) exchanges are now available through a "Phone Booth" web page. This should be reachable at http://www.io.org/~djcl/phoneb.html ------------------------------ From: dspnet!dspadmin@uunet.uu.net (DSPnet Administrator) Subject: Mercury Computer Products Now on the WWW Date: 17 Jan 1995 00:30:45 GMT Organization: DSPnet, Inc., Waltham MA, USA DSP Product NEWS on the World Wide Web Mercury Computer Products has just introduced on DSPnet two product documents. The first product: Race SERIES 9U - MCV9 describes the System Module, Environment. The Raceway Communications Fabric as well as the Interlink Module and the Software environment. The second document: "Embedded Systems for Realtime Airborne Applications" describes Mercury's Product profile and the Technology. Access on the WWW through a browser. http://www.dspnet.com Access through a dialup line. telnet dspnet.com (login as lynx) ------------------------------ From: fonaudio@ix.netcom.com (TELEPHONETICS) Subject: Computer Telephony Convention Date: 16 Jan 1995 17:03:04 GMT Organization: Netcom Is anyone planning on attending the Computer Telephony convention in Dallas on March 7th? Please let me know. ------------------------------ From: Alan Shen Subject: Alert! USWest Cellular in 360/206 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 09:16:08 -0800 Organization: University of Washington All USWest Cellular Users that are being reprogrammed to the 360 NPA, please note that For the past 10 HOURS, USWest Cellular has techs working on a switch to get the bugs out of the switchover. They do not know how widespread it is. If you have had your phone reprogrammed, you MAY NOT be able to receive calls. If you have digital messaging or message center, those will be inoperable until the problem is fixed. You can still dial out of your cellular phone. But you cannot receive calls. The switch does NOT recognize your number, and will give you the the message, "Your call cannot be completed as dialed. Please check the number and dial again. Message 2." I HIGHLY recommend that you wait until the bugs are fixed before you change-over. This problem only affects people who have changed over. I know that the whole 360, prefix 791 (Olympia, WA area) has been shut down. I do not know if Cellular One is having this much trouble. I'll keep everyone posted on this. Daniel Kao E-mail Always: rvkc60e@prodigy.com Olympia, WA USA Sometimes: kermee@u.washington.edu Voice/Voxmail/Pager: (360) 791-8032 <-- *CURRENTLY INOPERATIVE* Facsimile: (360) 866-8173 ------------------------------ From: timb@europa.com (Tim Bach) Subject: Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Just Names Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 11:43:13 PST I have a bunch of names I need addresses and phone numbers to. They are all mostly in the same local calling area. Is there a service or product I can buy that will allow me to take a ASCII file of names and have it try and lookup the addresses plus phone numbers? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't know how many you think is a 'bunch', but unless it is really a lot, and you plan to do this on a frequent basis, why don't you ask the telco serving the local calling area for a copy of their directory. Most telcos will send it free of charge, or they may get some small handling/postage fee. Then you would sit there and look them up. After you have found all you can, then call AC-555-1212 for the (hopefully) few remaining names. PAT] ------------------------------ From: tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) Subject: Anyone From Globalstar, Inmarsat, Iridium or Odyssey? Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 20:53:25 +0200 I need precise and up to date information about Globalstar, Inmarsat, Iridium and Odyssey. If you know how to get in touch with any of these organizations, please let me know by email. This is urgent. Thank you in advance. Eric Tholome 23, avenue du Centre tholome@dialup.francenet.fr 78180 Montigny le Bretonneux phone: +33 1 30 48 06 47 France fax: same number, call first! ------------------------------ From: aa293@detroit.freenet.org (Andrew P. Dinsdale) Subject: Looking for TDM Box Date: 16 Jan 1995 22:27:21 GMT Organization: The Greater Detroit Free-Net Hi, We are looking for a Time Division Multiplexing Box to split a 56k digital line into one voice channel, one data channel and handle more than one point-to-point digital circuit with one voice and one data channel. We are demoing a Tellabs Crossnet and are interested in demoing others. Please forward ideas or replies to the group or myself. Andrew Dinsdale DataServ,Inc aa293@detroit.freenet.org ------------------------------ From: tci@crl.com (David Reeve) Subject: PC-Based Voice Mail and AMIS Date: 16 Jan 1995 03:13:01 GMT Organization: Timberline Communications, Inc. Hello group, I am researching a business opportunity that will require extensive use of the AMIS-Analog networkng protocol to send voice mail messages from system (Octel) to a different PC-based voice mail system. By way of explanation, the application is off-site technical support. Does anyone out there have much experience in AMIS networking? For instance, when a message is transferred via AMIS, what type of call data (envelope information) is available? Any recommendations (or warnings) regarding PC based voice mail vendors? Thanks, David Reeve tci@crl.com ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 95 22:22:59 EST From: Sarah Holland <70620.1425@compuserve.com> Subject: BC Tel, SaskTel, Internet An interesting article recently in the {Vancouver Sun} told about SaskTel's new universal access to the Internet, and BC Tel's refusal to do the same. Living as I do in a more remote area of British Columbia, where ALL Internet access is long-distance, I find this most frustrating. I plan to call BC Tel about this -- any bets as to how far I get? Sarah Holland Fort St. James, BC == story from newspaper follows == SaskTel casts (Inter)net for clients, but BC Tel won't follow suit David Smith - Sun Business Reporter Vancouver Sun, January 10, 1995 A Prairie telephone company will soon be offering all of its customers universal access to Internet, but don't expect BC Tel to follow suit. That's because this province already has the highest number of electronic bulletin board services and value-added resellers in the country offering Internet access, the product development manager of BC Tel Advanced Communications said Monday. "For us to get involved in universal access we would be competing with small businesses and we don't think that's to our benefit or to B.C. as a whole," said Bill Neale. "For us to try and compete with that sector probably would be a mistake." Recently, goverment-owned SaskTel, which serves Saskatchewan, announced rates for its universal Internet access service SaskNet. The services starts in the next few months. NBTel in New Brunswick was the first phone company in Canada to offer universal Internet access to its customers. Neale said there are many B.C. companies such as Mind Link, Wimsey and Cyberstore that link their customers to Interent. "There's more here than anywhere else in Canada. The Prairie provinces have been kind of left out so the telephone companies had to do this." Although it has no plans to offer universal Internet access, BC Tel's Advanced Communications does provide the regional infrastructure that allows resellers to connect their customers to Internet and it offers commercial Internet access to its larger and medium-sized corporate customers. It will cost $35 to sign up for SaskNet, including software. The service carries a minimum monthly charge of $19.95, which includes six hours of free usage. After that, subscribers pay 10 cents a minute during the day and five cents a minute at night. "With SaskNet's dial access service, customers in the province's smaller communities will not long [sic] have to pay long distance charges to connect to the Internet, providing savings of up to 64 per cent over existing access rates," SaskTel said. SaskTel said it will spend about $1.2 million to upgrade and expand existing Internet access facilities. The province's two universities have provided Internet access in the province since 1991, SaskTel officials said. ------------------------------ From: mfraser@vanbc.wimsey.com (Mark Fraser) Subject: T1BBS Gone? Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 10:19:34 PST Pat: It's been a while since I last tried, but both of the net addresses 192.187.216.5 and ....3 don't return a ping, nor respond to telnet/ftp respectively. Likewise, phone calls to the previously published modem numbers don't give much satisfaction. I must admit I haven't spent much time reading traffic in this group recently, so may have missed any announcement on the movement or demise of the service. Likewise, don't have an address for Art Graham, so figured since you seem to know anything that matters in the whole subject area of telecom, you'd be my first try for info. Cheers, Mark [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, I'm afraid I cannot be much help on this personally. Maybe others have the answer. PAT] ------------------------------ From: stack@me.rochester.edu (Ken Stack) Subject: Help Needed With Displaying X Windows on the PC Date: 14 Jan 1995 13:49:51 -0500 Organization: University of Rochester, School of Engineering I am trying to fins a way to display x windows on my PC from my Sun at work. The problem is that my Sun at work does not have slip or ppp for security reasons. I have attempted to use PSI's interramp service coupled with white pine's exodus software to display x, but I can't seem to make it work. Does anyone know of a company or vendor that sells a complete solution, i.e. will sell me internet access so that I can telnet into my Sun at work AND sell me the correct PC software that s already configured? I am not a Unix person by trade and I am also not a super user on my Sun at work, so I cannot do much in the way of customizing my Sun. Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated. Kenneth D. Stack Mechanics of Flexible Structures Project Department of Mechanical Engineering University of Rochester Rochester, N.Y. 14627 tel: (716) 275 4077 fax: (716) 256 2509 email: stack@me.rochester.edu ------------------------------ From: James Dollar Subject: US <> Purto Rico: Options? Date: 15 Jan 1995 04:20:19 GMT Organization: InfiNet We are looking for options connecting an office in Carolina, PR to our Domestic US WAN. Currently we can barely maintain 9600 baud modem connections for mail. The circuit would probably be switched/Demand- Dialed, and the speed could be as slow as 9.6, if only reliable. A nailed-up 56k connection was estimated ~4k/month (not justified for six users). Thanks for your ideas, j$ ------------------------------ From: philip@world.std.com (Philip Borenstein) Subject: Where to Find Nice-Looking phones? Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 04:33:03 GMT Is there any place (retail or mail order) that sells good quality attractive telephones? In our old apartment one phone on a long cord was enough, but in our new house, we need several phones. Most of what we've seen in various stores (AT&T Phone Stores, Circuit City, etc) are flat office-style phones, cute Bart Simpson novelty phones, variations on the Trimline theme, and one that looked like a giant marble. While I personally have a fondness for the old desk style phone, my wife wants something more aesthetic -- and we're not talking faux French phones either. philip philip@world.std.com ------------------------------ From: vlai@wimsey.com (Vincent Lai) Subject: Distinctive Ringing Specifications Date: Sun, 15 Jan 95 05:20:45 GMT Organization: Achiever Canada Does anybody know how to get the specifications for distinctive ringing in USA and Canada? Any help is appreciated. Vincent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 02:32 EST From: dleibold@gvc.com (Dave Leibold) Subject: Returning Blocked Local Calls to be Discontinued in Canada [from Bell News, (Bell Canada) 9 Jan 95 - content is Bell Canada's] No Call Return of blocked local calls With the Call Return feature - one of the several SmartTouch[tm] services we provide - a person who receives an abusive phone call from an anonymous caller can, by dialing *69, call back to the phone from which the disturbing call was made. By June 30, a called party will no longer be able to do this. In a decision handed down on December 5 [1994], the CRTC ordered Bell to "implement the disablement of call return on blocked local calls." Also told to do likewise were BC Tel, Island Tel, MT&T, NBTel and Newfoundland Tel. All must implement software changes to make it impossible for customers to return local telephone calls where the caller has used a form of blocking, such as per-call blocking. Currently, Call Return and Last Call Return cannot be used to return blocked long distance calls. However, they can be used to return blocked local calls. The companies must extend this privacy safeguard to local calling by June 30, 1995. While acknowledging that the CRTC's order was "not unexpected," Mike Kassner, associate director, Consumer Market Management, said, "It tilts the balance once again in favour of the calling party and might cause problems with increased use of Call Trace now that the handling of minor annoyance calls via Call Return has been taken away." All is not lost, however. Call Screen, said Mike, is still an "effective device" for preventing unwanted calls from the same number. "Call Screen can be activated to work on the last incoming number even though the number is blocked," he noted. ------------------------------ From: bd_n227@kingston.ac.uk (Christopher Dyke) Subject: Reports on Internet Communication Links Date: 16 Jan 1995 20:54:25 GMT Organization: Kingston University, Kingston-upon-Thames. If anyone out there has got any reports on how the internet is linked to other networks in terms of protocols etc. please send them to me; it would be greatly appreciated. Chris ------------------------------ From: scorpion@phantom.com Subject: How to Improve Line Quality Date: 16 Jan 1995 04:36:00 -0500 Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Hi, I have a question for you all. I saw a post not to long ago about how to improve the quality of the telephone line by changing the wire. I live in a apartment, and I have a jack in a window, and from the window to my modem is about 40 feet of 22# wires. From the panel in the basement to the window is about 75 feet to 100 feet. My questions are: 1) How much inprovement can I get from the window to the modem with other types of wire, like 20#, or level 3 pvc or level 5 plenun or fiber? 2) How much inprovement from the panel to the window to the modem with other types of wire, like 20#, or level 3 pvc or level 5 plenun or fiber? 3) How good is the wire the telephone company uses?. It looks like it is a cable with 100 wires or more probably 26#G. How can the quality of the line in the apartment can be improved if the wire that the telco uses from the panel to the telco office is 26#? ------------------------------ From: jporten@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey A. Porten) Subject: Programmable Touch-Tone Interpreter Needed Date: 16 Jan 1995 07:35:51 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania I need help in coming up with a solution for a client. She wants to provide her incoming callers with a automated system that will allow them to schedule time with her by using a touch-tone phone, similar to the system that Amtrak uses to tell people about the trains closest to their selected travel time. I just attended the Consumer Electronics Show, and was very disappointed with the selection there; most vendors basically said, "can't be done" or "I'll do it if you order 10,000 units." Anyone with suggestions on how to do this? Proposals from vendors also cheerfully accepted. I figure there are three basic genres of solutions: a stand-alone box that intercepts calls; a program on a computer with a voice-equipped modem; a service provided by a major telco. If there are other options I'm missing, please say so. Anyone with a proposal who thinks we can do business, I can be reached faster via e-mail to jeffporten@aol.com. Many thanks, Jeff Porten Millennium Consulting ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #33 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa27911; 17 Jan 95 20:56 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20660; Tue, 17 Jan 95 10:14:05 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20652; Tue, 17 Jan 95 10:14:02 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 10:14:02 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501171614.AA20652@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #34 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 10:14:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 34 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 06:24:16 -0800 From: wewood@ix.netcom.com (William Wood) Subject: B8ZS, AMI, Bipolar Line Coding In telecom 15.29.20, Phillip Schuman asks the question which many people have asked about the issues of B8ZS, AMI and bipolar line coding and their relationship to bit robbing for voice. Though I am not an engineer and have limited understanding of some technical issues, I offer my experience on the matter for those who wish to listen. I hasten to add that it is my intent to convey concept level information in order to build mental constructs which can act as a framework for understanding technicalities. I have often been accused of oversimplification in my efforts. I take this as a compliment, flames notwithstanding, because the majority of people in telecommunications do not have the technical training necessary for understanding engineering level material; but were not stupid, and can understand a coherent explanation if one is offered. First the simple answer. There is no direct relationship between bit robbing and line coding. Even so, there are some indirect relationships if you skew you vision just a little. In order to understand, a bit of history is needed. Bit robbing is a process for transporting single line supervision and signaling between two individual digital carrier (T type) channel units. It developed in a more or less logical fashion from the necessity for converting battery and ground (DC) type supervision into something which could go thru a carrier system. The drop, loop, line, customer, user, access or phone side of a switch (in Plain Ol Telephone Service POTS) consists of two wires. Battery (-48v in USA, 50 v elsewhere) is applied to one of the wires by the switch and ground to the other. When the phone is taken off hook a loop closure is made (known as loop start signaling) which allows current flow between the two (tip and ring) wires. This is supervision to the switch to tell it to put dial tone on the loop pair toward the telephone. Next, the user signals what number they want by either rotary dialing or pushing keys on the DTMF (dual tone multifrequency) pad. In the case of the rotary dial, current flow (battery to ground) is interrupted in series intervals which in turn tell the switch where to connect. This kind of DC (direct current) signaling/supervision works fine as long as all the lines are physically attached to the same switch. Let us say though, that you want to connect to a line that is out of a switch which is in another city, state or country. The facilities between switches are shared on an as-needed basis and are know as trunks. The most significant thing to know at this point is that battery and ground signaling and supervision cannot now, nor could they ever, be sent over a carrier system. Carrier systems are used to connect switches by providing the physical facilities for the trunks. (The techies will insist that metallic [no carrier] trunks can send DC. True, but there are so few left in the USA, and the Dxing methods so numerous, I will not deal with them here.) Analog carrier systems can transport only audible (voice) tones so a conversion process is done to change battery and ground signaling into an audible tone. Each of the individual voice frequency channels in a carrier system are band limited to 4 KHz. The usable part (for transporting conversations) of this pancake of capacity is further limited to around 3 KHz (300 - 3400 Hz). This range is known as the VF Band to transmission folks. DC signaling/supervision can be converted into a tone that is either in-the-band or out-of-the-band. As an example, type N1 carrier channels internally can convert a battery on-off signal into a 3700 Hz on-off tone signal. This tone is out of voice band signaling because it's above 3500 Hz. Filters in the channel units block the signaling tones from the callers. A second option is to use an external tone generator such as an SF (signal/single frequency) unit. SF units typically convert DC supervision and signaling into 2600 Hz (USA) on-off tones. This is an in band (between 300 and 3400 Hz) signal type. Notch filters are supposed to keep this tone from the callers too. (Sometimes the filters dont kick in quick enough and you can hear the tone chirp for just an instant as the distant end hangs up on some long distance calls even today. Not much of the in-band left because a good whistler can put up bogus calls so the phone companies have disconnected most of these types of trunks.) With the advent of digital carrier systems (T carrier in early 60's) a decision was made to continue to use in-band (SF) signaling but also support a twist on the out-of-band idea. Because the signal leaving an individual channel unit was now digital, a single pulse (bit) out of the periodic series of eight bits belonging to that channel could be designated as a signaling/supervision bit. To illustrate; say that an off-hook, battery or seizure signal was presented to the channel unit by the phone or switch. This seizure would cause the channel unit's signaling function to stop applying an idle state mark bit onto the trunk facility. The receiving channel unit would detect the change from marking to spacing for this bit position and in turn apply a seizure toward its own switch or phone. The earliest T systems reserved this bit all the time for signaling (and sometimes even a second bit position) but this was soon replaced by the current system. Because each channel creates an eight bit unit (octet or byte), any single bit occurs 8 thousand times a second (the Nyquist rate for a 4 Hz channel). The system was originally designed to facilitate only interoffice dial pulse trunks. (In fact, in my area the telephone company didn't even originally consider T as a carrier system. It was an interoffice transport mechanism belonging to a different union group than that which maintained carrier systems.) The rate for dial pulses is only 10 to 12 pulses per second, so using a full 8 Kbps of channel bits is massive overkill. The current system still uses a single bit out of the eight, but now it only does it during the sixth appearance of the time slot into which the channel byte or octet is regularly dumped. The concept is that there is 64 Kbps signal (8 K Nyquist x 8 bit unit) ostensibly being created by the channel unit for payload transfer, but occasionally (every 6th byte or octet from the channel) a single bit is robbed and designated as a signaling/supervision indicator for a DC state on the drop side of the channel unit. This still results in creating a 1.3 Kbps out of (voice) slot signaling sub channel (sliced into A, B, and sometimes C & D sub-sub channels) which is only semi-massive overkill. Because dial pulsing is so slow for address transfer, some trunking over T carrier uses the bit robbing function for off /on hook supervision only and MF (multi-frequency which is not the same set of tones as DTMF) for address transfer. In some applications the bit rob is not used at all. SF is used for hook supervision and DTMF for address transfer. Lots of variations here on the main theme of using a carrier transmission bit on/off as a representation of a signaling/supervision battery on/off condition. Hold this thought. The Bipolar, AMI and B8ZS question relates to the composite, or multiplexed, signal leaving the digital (channel bank) mux. A standard DS1 digital stream consists of 24 DS0 time division multiplexed to run at a combined rate of 1.544 Mbps (24 x 64 Kbps + 8 Kbps framing) plus or minus a little . On twisted pair cables this is, even today, a significant number of bits. The digital square wave which is the DS1 stream is physically constructed of either +3, -3 or zero voltage pulse positions. The +3 and -3 volt pulses are known as marks and the zero voltage pulse or time positions are called spaces, (words straight out of 19th century telegraph). For a number of technical reasons, the transmitter is required to reverse the DC voltage value as each mark is transmitted. That's where AMI gets its name. Each Alternation of a Mark must be Inverted in voltage value. Example with mark as 1, and space as 0: 101010111000001 could be transmitted (left to right) as +3,z,-3,z,+3,z,-3,+3,-3,z,z,z,z,z+3. This signal form came to be known as bipolar because it has two (bi) poles of voltage, although it is actually a ternary (three) form because zero volts also counts as a state. If you've stayed with me this long, you get the reward here. The B8ZS is what seems to put the twist in everyone's knickers. Since the earliest days of T carrier, there has been a ones density and consecutive zero requirement for the DS1 stream. For our purposes, the most significant is that there be no more than 15 consecutive spaces (zero voltage bit times) in the ongoing DS1 stream. On the face of it, this would not seem to be a problem because each channel generates only an 8 bit unit for transmission. Even if it sent an all zero octet, no harm would be done. Remember though the DS1 is a serial, time division multiplexed stream with one channel octet following another like ducks in an endless row. If two consecutive channel time positions contained all zero octets the total zeros in series would be 16, which is sufficient to cause clocking errors on the system. There are three solutions to this problem. The first, and original, is to restrict each individual channel from ever sending an all zero byte. This is the solution which has always restricted services like DDS from sending 64 Kbps. Each individual DDS channel unit allows only seven of the eight bits to be used for DDS payload and reserves the 8th bit to make it a mark in order to insure the channel can't send all zeros. Because the Nyquist rate in T carrier channels is always 8 k, and the DDS channel unit gives over only 7 bits to it, the result is 56 Kbps. It's important to note here that even though the results of restricting zeros and bit robbing for signaling/supervision may result in a channel payload of less than the full 64 Kbps DS0, the two things are not related. The second way to meet pulse density rules is to have the transmitter actively monitor the DS1 stream as it is applied to the transmission line. This is the B8ZS solution. In this process when the transmitter recognizes a series of eight or more zeros (and it doesn't need to know if they are all from one channel or a combination of two channels) it will substitute a different digital bit pattern for that series of eight. Instead of sending z,z,z,z,z,z,z,z it will send z,z,z,v,s,z,v,s. The z is zero volts, the v is a 3 volt pulse in the same polarity as the last valid mark signal which is technically a violation of the AMI rule. The s is a substitution bit for the original zero value at this time position. At the receiver, this string is converted back to z,z,z,z,z,z,z,z and given over to the channel receivers. Bipolar 8 Zero Substitution (binary 8 zero suppression?) permits any individual channel to send any combination of 8 bits with no restrictions. This allows interoffice systems to provide clear channel 64 Kbps service. Once again, notice that this has no direct relationship to bit robbing for supervision. It has an indirect (skew your vision a little) relationship because a robbed bit could be changed on the line to conform to B8ZS format, but it will be changed back at the receiver to its correct form with the process being transparent between the near and far channel units. European systems can also do this process but use a different substitution pattern. The third way is called ZBTSI for Zero Byte Time Slot Interchange. But, that's a story for another time. WE Wood Technotranslater Techish to English Translation Techtrans Animatics Group ------------------------------ From: Nikhil Subject: India Opens Doors to Foreign Telcos Organization: National Centre for Software Technology, India Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 06:52:35 GMT India has opened its doors to foreign telecom companies for providing the telephone service in the local loop. So far, the Indian Government held the monopoly for telecom for the last fifty years. This resulted in a long waiting list of up to ten years for getting a telephone connection. For the last three years India has been reforming its economic policies to speed up the development. Realizing that good telecommunications are a necessity in a liberal economy, it has opened it doors to foreign telcos and banned government companies from investing in the telecom sector. The highlights of the new guidlines anounced yesterday are: * Foreign telecom companies can bid for providing services as joint venture with a local company. * Companies presently having minimum 0.5 million lines in service can qualify to bid. * Foreign equity participation must be minimum 10% and maximum 49%. * Area divided for bidding into Telecom circles of class A,B and C where class A circle is high density city. * Minimum net worth of the joint venture company should be Rs.300 crores (US$ 100 million) for Class A, Rs.200 cr. for Class B and Rs.100 crores for Class C areas. * Assured business for next fifteen years with provision to extend for another ten years. However the long distance and international business still remain a monopoly of government companies for the next five years. Nikhil Thakkar email: INTERNET: nikhil@shakti.ernet.in X.400 : G=SYSTEMS S=NOVASOFT A=VSNB C=IN ------------------------------ From: Viviane.Engels@rug.ac.be (Viviane Engels) Subject: Belgacom Be-Panaphone Greece Date: 17 Jan 1995 05:59:36 GMT Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium I send this letter to protest for the services of Belgacom Proximus Cellular Telephone service and that of the Greek Panaphone. I am an owner of a Panaphone number and I am visiting Belgium since 10 December 1994. My telephone is not working in a certain area of Belgium even the Proximus signal is very stong. This area is established between the cities: Ghent, Antwerpen, Brugge, Kortrijk. In none of the above cities the phone is working (except Kortrijk). The Belgium coast has also a problem. The networks work normal at the rest of Belgium (as far as I checked). After my contact with both companies they just blame each other. Belgacom thinks the problem is for whole Belgium territory (so its a Greek problem) and the Greeks say there is a problem in a part of Belgium without being able to define where (Belgium problem). My remark is that all these people except doing their best to solve the problem there are also deaf (they have a client service department just to put nice music on the phone when someone is waiting for an answer). Finally except that they are losing money and credibility for their services, they are also against the law since in Greece is advertised use of Greek cellular phones in whole Belgium territory. If someone responsible is listening I whould appreciate an answer. P.S. I know Greek people doing business in Belgium that they were forced to buy a Belgian-Proximus number also just to work. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Ah, readers ... does the complaint above sound familiar. Telco blames long distance carrier, and long distance carrier blames telco for whatever is wrong. Each convinced the other must correct the problem. Are there any European readers of the Digest who can make suggestions to this fellow? PAT] ------------------------------ From: roland@nwg.nectec.or.th (Roland Peter Sauermann) Subject: Antenna For Cellular Phone in Bangkok Date: 17 Jan 1995 11:31:54 GMT Organization: National Electronics and Computer Technology Center, Bangkok I am struggling with pretty poor AMPS 800 service in Bangkok on my three Watt Diamond-Tel cellular phone that I have permanently mounted in my car. I have noisy calls, call overlapping, and disconnected calls. The problems are probably not unique to any big city where the cells are overloaded, and there are lots of tall buildings and interference. My question is what is the optimum antenna for this environment? I currently have one of those antennas where the cable side is glued on one side of the windshield and the antenna proper is on the other side. My windshield is also very steep on my truck so the angle between the base and the antenna is very small. Would I do better with a Magnetic mounted antenna on the roof? What would suit me better a 3db or a 5db one? There seem to be a whole bunch of options, some cost three times others. One guy told me the material was different ... some antennas simply have squiggles in them others have a thick section of a ceramic or hard plastic. I know I need to be sure I get one for the correct phone system (we have five different types here from 470mhz, 800, 900 to the new Digital stuff). How do I evaluate these different antennas that run between $25-$60 and apparently have different properties? Thanks for any suggestions. Cheers, Roland P. Sauermann roland@nwg.nectec.or.th Bangkok, Thailand ------------------------------ From: v.erwig@stud.tue.nl (Vincent Erwig) Subject: GSM Information Wanted Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:32:37 Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Can anybody give me some information on where and how I can find information about GSM? I'm interested in the development of the GSM network, and the specific features that GSM / GSM telephone has, what new technologies have been used, and the advantages / disadvantages compared to other cellular phone systems. I need this information for a study project. Many thanks in advance. Vincent Erwig V.Erwig@stud.tue.nl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 20:55:00 +1000 From: JOHN.HACKING@telecom.telememo.au Subject: Question on Call-Back Operators There has been a great deal of discussion in the Australian media lately about Call-Back Operators and I'm interested in how they operate from a customer's point of view. From the little I know, it would appear that there are four possible ways of Call-Back Operator customers placing calls. These are: 1. Customer calls an international freecall number and talks to a live operator who then calls the customer back and presents the customer with dial-tone. The customer then dials the international number required. 2. Automatic version of the above -- customer calls an international freecall number, lets it ring three times and then hangs up. Then some sort of black box works out which customer called, calls the customer back and presents the customer with dial-tone. The customer then dials the international number required. The customer can only do this from one telephone number. 3. Customer calls an international freecall number, enters an account number PIN number and the number that they are calling from. A black box then validates the customer account details and then calls the customer back on the phone number they entered and presents the customer with dial-tone. The advantage of this method over two is that the customer can get the call back to any phone number. 4. A "bombardment" system -- the call back operator's black box polls the customer's phone line somehow and presents the customer with dial-tone without any call back. My questions are: a) Are there any other methods of operation available? Obviously method four is the most convenient from the customer point of view. b) How does the "bombardment" system work (method four)? c) Are there significant savings in using call-back operators or is it just a matter of a few cents per minute depending on time of day? d) Are there any hidden tricks or traps that customers should be aware of? I run a small business and make a significant number of calls to the USA, UK and Canada and I'm interested in saving money on my international traffic. Any information or advice would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. John Hacking Manager Queensland Training Systems [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Why would method four (polling) be the most convenient? I think it would be the least convenient since you never know when you are going to want to make a call versus when it the next time you are going to be 'polled'. The other thing to watch out for where callback systems are concerned are the *huge* number of misdialed calls (and/or telemarketer calls) to your 'callback number' which result in a call being made to you at all hours of the day and night (relative to your time of day) resulting in many cases in admin charges levied to your account for calls you did not make, to say nothing of the inconvenience of answering the phone at three in the morning your time to be greeted with callback dialtone you don't want merely because some fool in the USA accidentally dialed your callback number and let it ring a couple times before deciding he dialed in error. I sold a service called Telepassport for awhile, and wrong number/telemarketer calls to the numbers on their switch were an awful nuisance to their subscribers. They tried everything to reduce the instances of wrong numbers, i.e. they set their switch so if *more than one ring was received* before the caller disconnected, it was assumed to be a wrong number. This meant legitimate subscribers had to be instructed to dial their callback number and disconnect *IMMEDIATLY* when they heard a 'click' indicating they had connected and the switch was about to return an audible ringing signal. The assumption was telemarketers would let it ring at least three or four times before disconnecting, as would most people getting a wrong number. Then instead of using numbers in lower Manhattan -- apparently an area where incorrect dialing is legion -- they got blocks of numbers in New Jersey, from an area where it is assumed telemarketers are less interested due to the demographics of the area. You know what? Their callback subscribers still get awakened at odd hours by unsolicited callbacks due to someone in the USA triggering the switch in error (or on purpose, trying to sell something). There ought to be a flag which tells the CO receiving a call if the call is from within or without the USA, and to reject those calls which originate in the USA. ("I'm sorry, the number you dialed cannot be reached from within the USA"). I am pretty certain this can be done since not long ago I tried to call a place in Haiti (of all places!) and the response I got at the distant end after dialing the number was "the telephone you are calling does not accept calls from international points ... this is a Cable & Wireless recording, ". PAT] ------------------------------ From: clukas@mr.net (chuck lukaszewski) Subject: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 14:23:22 GMT Organization: Minnesota Regional Network I received some information from LDDS/Metromedia yesterday about their long distance service. The rates seem entirely too good to be true, and I'm wondering if anyone here has experience (good or bad) that they would share. At the moment, I'm spending a lot of time on the telephone to NYC. After a pretty exhaustive evaluation of AT&T, Sprint and MCI we found the lowest we could get was 23.7 cents per minute peak on AT&T. LDDS claims to charge 15 cents per minute with a one year commitment (includes a 90-day out clause). I talked to AT&T and they're pulling the "we're regulated and can't compete with those numbers" routine. chuck lukaszewski clukas@mr.net imp@krissy.msi.umn.edu ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #34 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa04142; 17 Jan 95 22:14 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA27376; Tue, 17 Jan 95 13:24:09 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA27368; Tue, 17 Jan 95 13:24:06 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 13:24:06 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501171924.AA27368@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #35 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 13:24:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 35 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (Alan Boritz) Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (Michael P. Deignan) Re: Data Over CB? 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Webb) writes: > An officer found my 2 meter amateur transceiver, turned it on, and > discovered it could transmit on frequencies licensed to the local > county police. I was not in my room during the time of the search, > so I had no control over its operation. > The radio was confiscated, and I had to defend myself in front of > the school board. The school did not find me in violation of any > rules because I had a statement from a county officer who is also > a Ham. The officer wrote he knew my radio was legal for me to > possess. ... > The States attorney had three witnesses. > Witness #1 was the university officer who stated under oath that he > used the radio to transmit on county frequencies to verify the > modifications. He also stated in his professional capacity that my > radio is illegally modified, and therefor illegal to possess. He > further stated that he called the FCC and was told my radio is illegal > to possess. The State's first witness lied. It's not illegal to be in possession of a radio transmitter, however it may be illegal to use it, depending upon the frequency and location. > Witness #2 was the county sheriff. He indicated in his professional > capacity that my radio was illegal to own. He also voiced > understandable concern for my capability to interfere with his > frequencies. The State's second witness has no "professional capacity" in Federal radio regulation. It takes no "professional capacity" to press a push-to-talk switch. > Witness #3 was a person who services amateur equipment. He stated > that my radio is type accepted, and therefor it is illegal to modify. > Illegal modification therefor makes my radio illegal to possess. The State's third witness is an incompetent. Type acceptance is not required for amateur radio equipment. You can purchase any radio equipment you like (type accepted or not), and modify it to your heart's content, and operate it within the legal limits of amateur radio service. The only time such equipment becomes "illegal" is when you exceed the legal operating parameter limits for your selected frequency, or emit spurious emissions that affect other licensed services, while OPERATING it. And contrary to Pat Townson's claim, it is NOT illegal to operate (formerly) type accepted equipment, assuming you are properly licensed for it's ultimate use. This precise issue came up several times while I in charge of radio for the City of New York, Dept. of General Services. One time was when a fairly large NYC radio service organization (not Motorola) who was low-bidder on a contract to change operating frequencies of a few hundred portable radios for a City agency, opened up the sealed channel elements and replaced crystals, rather than supplying new sealed channel elements. The crystals were unreliable and the channel elements were destroyed. By modifying the channel elements, the service shop voided the type acceptance on the radios. Another time was when an incompetent servicer did extensive modifications to another Agency's base station, resulting in interference to several nearby police departments. The modifications voided the type acceptance, and the equipment had to be replaced. I discussed the issue with an FCC inspector, who was inspecting the base station. While he agreed that the modifications voided the type acceptance of the equipment, there was no regulation that forbade their use, as long as their operating parameters were within the rules, and that the equipment displayed their (former) type acceptance in the form of a label on the outside of the equipment. There was no regulation that provided for penalties against the person who modifies such equipment. However, there were specific penalties against the licensee who operated equipment without the required labels or with operating parameters outside of the licensed parameters or interference standards in the rules. > The University officer must have called the field office in Chicago, > because when I called there, I was also told my radio is illegal to > possess. Hopefully, Dave Popkin (formerly with FCC/NYFOB) doesn't have any relatives working there. He must have spoken with a secretary or a clerk, since his statement just isn't true. > Witness #3 was wrong about the type acceptance. Amateur equipment > transmitters are not type accepted. Its internal receiver it accepted > to receive everything it was modified to receive. It could also have been built to work on those frequencies. I've got amateur radio equipment that includes the 11 meter band (now known as CB). It hasn't been illegal to possess this particular equipment for 35 years, though it may be illegal to operate it on frequencies within that band, depending upon operating parameters. I also own a synthesized radio that transmits and receives on Federal and amateur frequencies, as well as Private Radio bureau UHF frequencies. It's never been illegal to purchase or own this particular radio, since it's type accepted and never modified (however it may be illegal to operate it, depending upon the frequency). The only time possession of a "receiver" becomes illegal is in narrowly-defined circumstances having to do with moving vehicles (just about every state has them). > I tried to submit the county officer/ham's statement, and the states > attorney objected because the officer was not present for cross > examination. > Am I going to run into the same trouble when I try to submit the > statement from the Private Radio Division of the FCC? Absolutely you will. You're dealing with anal-retentive law enforcement officials who appear to be using whatever means they can find to slam your ass in jail, and for issues that are simply out of their jurisdiction. Keep in mind that none of these people have any reason to do ANYTHING for you. The State's got at least one "Wyatt Erp" who intends to nail you for SOMETHING, if not for the only purpose of trying to save face. > If so, how can I get around this obstacle? Retain competent counsel, familiar with communications law, who can't be "bought-off." And have you contacted the ARRL? > Although the university police violated FCC rules, it occurred over a > year ago, and therefor time limits on me reporting them has expired. There are no "time limits" on reporting such incidents, but, in general, anything that an FCC inspector can't verify by himself won't go very far. However, don't be so sure that they are not now violating the rules in some capacity. Does the University possess a valid FCC license for their two-way radio system? Are they licensed for all of the frequencies they use? Do they own and operate any radar vehicular speed measuring devices? Have they notified the FCC of how many such devices they currently operate? If their license wasn't renewed on time, or if they're operating unlicensed base stations, this would be the perfect time to file a complaint with the FCC Field Office serving your area. > Neither the States Attorney, nor any of his witnesses, presented the > judge with any law I *supposedly* violated. > The judge ruled to NOT allow me to have my radio back UNLESS I paid > to have it unmodified. > I filed a motion for the Judge to reconsider his ruling, which is > scheduled for February 9. > The reason I have opted to do this on my own is that the radio isn't > worth more than a few hundred bucks. I am pursuing this on the > principal. My radio is legal for me to own, and I am tired of the > harassment from university police. Don't expect the judge to change his mind. These arrogant morons seem to feel that you'll give up trying to beat them at their own game. You'll need to take this issue to Federal court to have the judge's, prose- cutor's, and Sheriff's collective hands slapped. All these issues deal with *Federal* law, not local or state law. But before you do anything, get competent counsel, and don't agree to, or sign, ANYTHING without advice. When "Wyatt Erp" sees you getting serious, expect harassment like you've never seen before. They might even try planting something on you, or in your room, to get you thrown out of school, or thrown in jail. You're going to embarass them, and "Wyatt Erp" doesn't like to be embarassed. ------------------------------ From: md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) Subject: Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio Date: 17 Jan 1995 15:05:06 GMT Organization: Population Studies & Training Center In article , David A. Webb wrote: [Story of police confiscating ham gear and not returning it.] This problem should be very simple to solve. Call the American Radio Relay League in Newington, CT (1-203-666-1541). Ask for the name of the ARRL Legal liason in your area. Many of these attornies, also hams, act pro-bono (for free) in cases like these. Unfortunately, the story you describe is becoming more and more the norm today. Local police officers, ignorant of anything except how to hand out traffic tickets at the local speed trap, take it upon themselves to be "experts" in federal law. They see ham radios or any scanner as a "burglar" tool (why would any normal citizen want to listen to police frequencies, after all?) and confiscate it for the good of humanity. You Jeffrey Dahmer, you. Its not illegal to possess a radio capable of transmitting on any frequency. It is illegal to use it on that frequency. And, not even to mention the fact that, unless it was a federal judge, the judge who ordered you to pay to have it modified back to its original state has no jurisdiction over the matter, such a motion on the part of any court is asinine. What next? Ordering you to only put 1/4 tank of gas in your car because it "might" be used as a getaway car at a bank robbery? Tell you to have all your steak knives dulled because you might stab someone? ------------------------------ From: jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) Subject: Re: Data Over CB? Date: 16 Jan 1995 23:21:19 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network Sharpened Software (sharpen@chinook.halcyon.com) wrote: > Are there any FCC regs concerning the type of information broadcast > over the "Citizen's Band?" In short, can I send data over CB? TELECOM Digest Editor noted in reply: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: First off, you may not 'broadcast' over > CB. The Crazy Band is intended, by FCC regulations for *two-way* > personal communications. 'Broadcast' by definition is a one-way > transmission intended specifically in a non-personal way for a large > number of listeners. Is another site going to be responding to you in > kind, with data back to you? > Anyway, I think all this is very academic. Good luck if you want to try > it. I presume the place you are broadcasting -- ooops!, communicating > with is not more than 75-100 yards away. More than that and some Good > Buddy will walk all over you. Its bad enough when two persons in actual > voice communication have to ask each other to repeat themselves over > and over because some local yokels are running way over the legal power > limit. (So then you run extra power in order to get past the interference > and he cranks his up a little more, etc.) Here in the Chicago area there > are times and places the CB/eleven meter airwaves are solid heterodyne > as the guys try to shove each other off the air. In the Crazy Band, no > matter how loud your radio is; no matter how much power you put out or > how well you are modulated, there is always someone out there whose > radio is louder and has more power. They'll be glad to demonstrate it, > you don't have to take their word for it. Just ask; they'll turn on > their linear amplifiers and their reverberation units wired in series > with their power microphones and Break rake rake rake rake for a > Radio Check heck heck heck heck heck heck, and tell two old ladies with > little handheld units seventy five miles away to 'back it down out there > and give someone else a crack at it ..." :) I'd love to see the data > before you send it, and after the other end gets it ... if it gets there > at all. PAT] I love that. It has so much truth to it, and we on the coasts can often hear the people in the south and midwest trying to get thru when the skip is good. The nice thing about using CB for data is that the TNC or packet adapter never gets frustrated and gives up trying to get through. Not so for humans. It would be a good way to go, because the heavy-fisted and long winded breakers out there can't keep talking forever, however implausible that may seem. But it *is* illegal. John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs Rancho Santiago Community College District 17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgre@kn.pacbell.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Hey, don't you think we here in the Chicago area don't hear the California guys working skip in the early morning hours every day? At four or five o'clock in the morning on a summer day the guys here are trying to talk to people in the UK. Around seven or so they start screaming at California and the rest of the west coast. One CB'er gets even: This is a true story. A fellow using the handle-name 'Doctor Witch' at times and 'Witch Doctor' at other times in Chicago, in a neighborhood known for its large population of Appalachian Mountain folks (I could say 'hillbillies' but that would be rude) was known to be a very loud, very obnoxious guy on the radio. His antenna sat on top of a nine- story apartment building, on a twenty foot mast which was mounted on the roof. With a two-thousand watt linear amplifier ('only used when I need it to get out', he would always claim), this guy could be heard all over Chicago to say the least, and usually half of the United States as well. If you did not use a CB radio, then you could hear him on Channel 2 on the television; that's how bad his harmonics could get sometimes. He was prone to cussing a lot, but he was also very territorial, and since he claimed Channel 16 (27.155 megs) as his private domain, generally no one else was bothered too much by him; they just stayed off Channel 16 rather than put up with his abuse. One day someone on Channel 16 got him riled up over something. Witch Doctor had Nazi sympathies (if he was not actually a member of the bunch here known as the 'American Nazi Party') so it did not take a lot to get him started; hearing a black person on 'his' channel was a good reason for him to let loose. This day was no exception, and a black guy going on that frequency to get a radio check brought a stream of obscenities and racial slurs from the good Doctor Witch. But this time someone was waiting for him ... another CB'er had hooked up a tape recorder with a mobious (endless) loop cassette; the kind you use in telephone answering machines ... one of the long, 90 second tapes. When Doctor Witch started, this guy hit that record button and started making a nice, juicy 90 second recording of it all. Did he take it to the FCC? No ... a lot of good that would have done ... instead, once he had that minute and a half of tape, he *reversed* the process and started playing it back out over the air on the same channel, knowing the Doctor was still listening. Played back anonymously of course; just key up and play it. -- Turn on linear amp; plug tape player output into microphone jack; key up and start playing the recording back out over the air -- Third person: Hey Witch Doctor, you said all that already! Doctor Witch: Why, #$$%@#m some &$$#@* tape recorded me! The tape is allowed to just cycle over and over again, repeating for everyone what the Witch Doctor had said about blacks and jews; all the cursing and comments about your mother; you name it. Soon the frequency is in an uproar since the black guy who went there originally has now returned with his buddies on their CB's. The endless loop tape has repeated itself over the air for the umpteenth time while the original speaker is trying to explain yes, he said it once but he did not say it a dozen more times. Leaving the folks to have a good time on their own, the CB'er with the tape recording goes around to all the other channels and plays it at least once on each of them. After playing the tape, he remains silent and as to be expected, a typical response: "Witch Doctor, take it back to your own channel! Don't come over here and start that garbage while my wife and her friends are talking." But when Witch Doctor -- or more correctly, the pre-recorded tape -- failed to respond, a few simply assumed he went back to 'his channel' so they went there also to tell him off. Soon people from other channels are coming onto Channel 16 angrily telling him off; he tries to explain it was *not* him ... "What's the idea of coming over to channel 31 and talking that way to my wife?" "It wasn't me!" "Well who was it then?" "It was a recording of me ... " "In other words, it was you ..." "Well no, it was not me, it was a recording of me ..." "What do you mean, a recording of you? What is this, summertime and re-runs of the best of Doctor Witch?" ... and on it went, all afternoon and into the evening. Black guys in other parts of the city, on other channels, hear about the abuse a brother received on channel 16 from 'one of those white trash hillbillies in Uptown' and they tune in to give their responses. This would have been about 1979-80. PAT] ------------------------------ From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew) Subject: Re: Data Over CB? Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 00:40:08 GMT If I recollect correctly, CB citizen's radio service is governed by part 15 chapter J. Three classes of serivce: A, B and C are defined. Class A is intended as a commercial service. UHF handie-talkies are an example. Class B is the familiar 40 channel good buddy trucker radio in the ~27 MHz range. Class C is for remote control with allocations in the 27 and 72 MHz ranges. Class C has to compete with interference in the 27 MHz band from poorly maintained and illegal class B radios. In the 72 MHz band, class C has to put up with old fashioned garage door systems. Newer garage doors are on 390 MHz. So, if your "data" is for remote controlling something, you might be able to get away with a class C license. You have to accept the interference you get from the other services. You can *not* transmit text data with a class C license, i.e. forget using a class C license to remotely read netnews on a terminal via a radio link. There is some room for interpretation in terms of remote control: you could concievably use PCM ASCII codes such as L and R to determine whether a robot goes left or right. Class C only permits RF continusous carrier transmissions (of arbitrary duration). Model planes are typically controlled by pulse position modulation where a series of short CW pulses are offset to various degrees in time windows followin a long reference pulse. AM and FM are *NOT* permitted. Class A and B permit only speech emissions. There is a shared allocation in the 902-928 MHz region where the gov't, RADAR, commercial serice, codless phones, hams, etc. coexist. Provided you maintain radiated power limits, you could legally construct an experimental data device for this band, but you have to tolerate interference from the priority users and have to generate no interference of your own. I don't have my regs here, so you'll have to look up the section of part 15 governing this. Bill Mayhew NEOUCOM Computer Services Department Rootstown, OH 44272-0095 USA phone: 216-325-2511 wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu amateur radio 146.58: N8WED ------------------------------ From: jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Date: 17 Jan 1995 13:08:13 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network TELECOM Digest Editor (telecom@eecs.nwu.edu) wrote: > Listening to WNIB on the radio this Saturday morning as I work on > this issue ... the eight o'clock news says 'up to six more inches > of rain due in California throughout the weekend ... more evacuations > probably will be required ...' > Well, good luck and my best regards, folks. It seems like the people > in California spend all summer burning the place down, then spend > all winter enduring mud slides and flooding. > Have the floods in California affected telephone service to any extent? Glub glub. Actually, other than getting a little wet, I haven't seen much in the way of damage. I had to drive home in knee-deep water last week because it came down too fast to run off. It took me about an hour and a half to go seven miles; usually it takes 25 to 30 minutes, even in rush hour. Stupid drivers don't know about hydroplaning, yet. The only damage I've seen in our part of town is where the freeways are being widened, and there is construction going on. There's just a lot of muddy runoff. The nice thing is that there isn't much smog in the air. But that doesn't last long. The funny thing is that of the 1500 plus lines from the CO that I end up troubleshooting, I haven't had a single line called in because of the rain. We have had a complaint from one user on campus that might be because of water in our interbuilding cabling, but I'm not sure. This week the faculty comes back from semester break, so I expect to hear complaints from some about their phones. John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs Rancho Santiago Community College District 17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgre@kn.pacbell.com ------------------------------ From: bruce.roberts@greatesc.com (Bruce Roberts) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 07:31:00 GMT Organization: The Great Escape - Gardena, CA - (310) 676-3534 > Well, good luck and my best regards, folks. It seems like the people > in California spend all summer burning the place down, then spend > all winter enduring mud slides and flooding. We are getting a lot > of rain here today also, but the only effect has been to melt all > the snow which had accumulated and leave some *huge* puddles of water > to navigate at curbs where the street sewers are plugged, etc. Ya know, now that you mention it, that IS what we do here in "sunny" California. > Have the floods in California affected telephone service to any extent? Oh yes. I haven't heard of any flooded central offices but I'll bet it happened up North. Had a chat at breakfast with some GTE field crews and they said there was more overtime than they knew what to do with. Just locally they had a 900 pair cable (not mine, thank goodness) get real wet and had to pull and splice a section. We ordered a couple of new lines at work and Pac Bell called to say there will be a delay. All the installers are now on field crew duty and they don't know when they'll be able to get out circuits turned up. Some of this happens whenever we get rain but this time is a LOT worse. Stay dry! TTFN Bruce Roberts, bruce.roberts@greatesc.com ------------------------------ From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein) Subject: Long Distance Blocking, was Re: Old Rotary Service Question Date: 17 Jan 1995 09:50:26 -0500 In Bill Parrish writes: > In the early 70s, I went to UCSB, and we were serviced by GTE in the > dorms. Occasionaly folks would decide to "share" a phone connection > by making their own patches into terminal cabinets .... > But there was a second funny thing about these "extensions" that was > rather odd ... you sometimes could not make long distance calls on > them ... If I recall right, there was some sort of a movable pin on the > back of the dial that could be put into one of several (three?) > positions, and if you moved the pin, it would enable the long-distance > capability. Could someone >explain how that worked? There are lots of tricks used (or which were used) by Telcos to restrict long distance call access. The simplest involved putting a diode in line with the phone line. In many central offices, there would be a current reversal as a toll call would go through the connection process. Sometimes this was only for a fraction of a second, othertimes for the remaining duration of the call. Putting a diode in the line would break the current as this occurred, thus putting the phone back "on hook" and killing the connection. I personally did this to my phone line when I was in dormitory type situation and other people had occassional (legit) access to my phone (i.e. Danny, could I use your phone, here's a dime ...). You still see this current reversal on many poorly designed coin phones. Far too often, when you call a number, you'll find the touch tone pad has gone dead on you. (Has to do with very ancient history when touch tone pads required the phones to be wired in one direction). BTW, some additional "features" abotu using the diode trick: a) Volume of the phone ringer would be cut by about a third. Remember that it is AC and you're blocking one direction of current. b) There was often also a current reversal when calling the operator or some other telco numbers. But local calls would go through ok. c) of course I would never have done this, but if you put the diode on a "friend's" phone line it would have been perhaps weeks before they noticed anything was wrong (remember local calls went through ok). And a cursory telco check of their phone linewould find nothing wrong (at least the way they'd do these things "back then"), and they would go crazy complaining back and forth and not getting anywhere. dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com) ------------------------------ From: labatt@vbh.com (Chris Labatt-Simon) Subject: Payphones Rejecting AT&T LD Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 03:08:16 EST Organization: D&D Consulting Howdy all - I was driving down 22 in New York the other day towards Millerton, NY and stopped to make a phone call at a payphone. When I tried to dial using my AT&T calling card the phone service wouldn't take it. Then I tried 10ATT0 and it still wouldn't go through. Finally, I tried 1-800-CALL-ATT and the call didn't go through. Drove down another five miles to another payphone. Same company, same problem. I tried calling the 800 number for the company who owns the phone, and had to pay $0.25 for the 800 call. Their offices were closed. I thought this was illegal? If it is, does anyone have a number I can call to stop this, as I often drive through this area ... Thank, Chris Labatt-Simon Internet: labatt@disaster.com Design & Disaster Recovery Consulting pribik@rpi.edu Albany, New York CIS: 73542,2601 PHONE: (518) 495-5474 FAX: (518) 786-6539 Subscribe to the Lotus Notes Mailing List - e-mail me for info.... For info on D&D Consulting, send e-mail to info@disaster.com.... [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What you need is a supply of our COCOT 'out of compliance' stickers. Review this file in the Telecom Archives at lcs.mit.edu. The idea is, when you find a phone which is not working correctly (we assume the owner intended for it to operate in a legal way but somehow the programming got messed up ) then it is courteous to place an 'out of order' sticker across the coin slot so no one else will accidentally lose money in it ... .... and if someone removes the out of order sticker without actually repairing the phone, then put a new sticker on it, and just keep doing so. See the 'cocot' sub-directory in the archives. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 07:18:37 -0800 From: mfletch@ix.netcom.com (Mark Fletcher) Subject: Privately Owned Cables on Public Utility Poles I am the Communications Manager at a large Northeastern resort where my department maintains a Northern Telcom Meridian Option 71 with two Meridian Option 11's in remote sites. Here is my dilemma: Currently we lease about 100 pairs from the local RBOC at a cost of $15.50 each per month. These lines service locations about two miles apart down a State Highway, all in one municipality, and are used to connect the remote sitches. I have been told that we can apply to the local municipality for a utility franchise, and then place our own cables on existing poles. At our current cost of $18,000.00 annually for special circuits, this possibility is very attractive to us. If anyone has information about the process, or could point me to any pertinant legal documents on the subject, I would be very greatful. Please reply via direct e-mail to mfletch@ix.netcom.com. I will post my findings and a summary for all interested. Thanks folks! By the way if any one is interested in discussing our database used to maintain our on property cable pairs, just leave me a note at the above e-mail address. ------------------------------ From: barrus@merl.com (John W. Barrus) Subject: CallerID and ANI Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 09:01:08 -0500 Organization: Mitsubishi Electric Research Labs Reply-To: barrus@merl.com My wife sometimes returns calls to mental health patients when they phone an emergency number. When CallerID was started in our area, we called and specifically asked to have line blocking put on our line (we have to press something like *67 to turn on CallerID on outgoing calls.) We don't want anyone calling my wife back after she helps them ou. She has been harrassed before, but only indirectly through the paging number, not to our home phone. Two evenings ago, I called PC Connection from our phone and casually asked if our number had come through when the customer assistant answered our phone. He then proceeded to recite our phone number to me. I did not (and never have) dialed the code to turn on CallerID. Does this mean that our phone number is being transmitted, even when the phone company says that it isn't? Or do commercial enterprises have a different system that always gets our phone number? I assumed that ANI and CallerID were both blocked with line blocking. Is there an easy way to test whether or not line blocking is working (I don't have any friends with CallerID boxes). Any ideas? John Barrus Research Scientist barrus@merl.com Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories, Inc. voice 1.617.621.7535 201 Broadway Cambridge, MA 02139 fax 1.617.621.7550 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: If you dial an 800 number then the called party gets your ID whether you like it or not. There is no way for you to block this. Regards Caller-ID, it *should* be blocked as you requested except I think on long distance calls you now need to do the *67 whether or not you have per-line blocking for local calls. I am not even certain if you can block CID on interstate long distance any longer after the most recent FCC rulings. PAT] ------------------------------ From: rogera@cts.com (Roger Atkinson) Subject: How Many SONET/SDH Network Terminations? Organization: R. F. Atkinson & Co. Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 01:34:29 GMT Does anybody have some notion of how many SONET network terminations are presently in service in the US and Canada? SONET/SDH worldwide? By 'network termination' I mean a connection to a public SONET/SDH network at a customer premise, or a connection between networks, public or private. More important question(s): How many such connections will be in use in the next three to five years, or how many will be installed each year, three to five years from now? We are trying to decide whether to jump on the bandwagon. Educated guesses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help, Roger Atkinson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:22:23 -0500 From: rjs@farnsworth.mit.edu (Richard Jay Solomon) Subject: Need Info on Two-Line, Digital Answering Devices With ANI Has anyone tested or reviewed the Friday machine by Bogen or AT&T's new two-line digital answering machine? Will they respond to ANI like the NTI device mentioned in TELECOM Digest? Richard Solomon MIT Research Program on Communications Policy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:37:35 EST From: Anthony D'Auria Subject: Is the Pentium Bug Really That Bugging? Hi! My name is Anthony D'Auria and I own a P90 super loaded desktop. I use it practically every day for the net and business. I haven't experienced any trouble with the floating point calculations (not that I use them). I think that IBM is making a big deal of a little thing. People with Pentiums start panicking, thinking that their system is all messed up. For an average user, it doesn't seem to fearsome, but if you have some heavy duty stuff to do, it can really do some damage. Question: Does this floating point calculation bug affect system performance? Is that why some Pentiums bottleneck? What and where should a person contact to get the messed up chip replaced? Is it actually worth it? If you have any ideas, respond: dauriaa@voyager.bxscience.edu. With regards, Anthony D'Auria ------------------------------ From: alexz@tmx100.elex.co.il (Alex Zacharov) Subject: ATM Based PBX Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:33:21 GMT Organization: Telrad Ltd. Has anybody heard about ATM-based SX-2000 Light PBX from Mitel, that has been advertised in Telecommunications, November 1993? How can I get more information about this product? Please, send answer to: alexz@tmx100.elex.co.il. Thanks. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #35 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa22392; 17 Jan 95 19:59 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA00565; Tue, 17 Jan 95 14:25:30 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA00556; Tue, 17 Jan 95 14:25:23 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 14:25:23 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501172025.AA00556@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #36 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 14:25:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 36 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Horrible Earthquake in Japan (TELECOM Digest Editor) Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (Bob Keller) Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (Ben Burch) Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (Bill Garfield) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Gary Novo) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Bob Keller) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Clifton T. Sharp) Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges (Peter Dibble) Re: Cellular NAM and ESN (Bob Keller) Re: Cellular NAM and ESN (Alan Shen) Re: Cellular NAM and ESN (Jeff Box) Re: Cell Phone PINs (Jay Hennigan) Re: Cell Phone PINs (Henry Baker) Re: Cellular Phone Pricing Question (Ken Weaverling) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Horrible Earthquake in Japan Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 14:00:00 CST Word is reaching us of a very severe earthquake which hit Japan several hours ago. This is reported to be the worst there in over a hundred years. Over 170,000 people have died, and entire cities are in flames. The government is attempting to cope with it, but is somewhat at a loss due to the severity of it. President Clinton has been in touch with the Japanese government and is sending immediate assistance as needed. This comes by coincidence on the anniversary of Northridge ... Can any of our Japanese readers give us more details? What has been the extent of the damage where telecommunications is concerned? PAT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:55:09 EST From: Bob Keller Subject: Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio David, I am not sure if this will be applicable, and therefore helpful, in your circumstances, but you should be aware of a 1993 FCC Ruling preempting state and local laws concerning amateur operator use of transceivers capable of reception beyond the ham bands. The official citation is: PR Docket No. 91-36, Memorandum Opinion and Order (FCC 93-410), 8 FCC Rcd 6413, 73 Rad. Reg. (P&F) 1196 (September 3, 1993). In paragraph 13 of the order the FCC wrote: We hold that state and local laws that preclude the possession in vehicles or elsewhere of amateur radio service transceivers by amateur operators merely on the basis that the transceivers are capable of the reception of public safety, special emergency, or other radio service frequencies, the reception of which is not prohibited by federal law, are inconsistent with the federal objectives of facilitating and promoting the amateur radio service and, more fundamentally, with the federal interest in amateur operators' being able to transmit and receive on authorized amateur service frequencies. We therefore hold that such state and local laws are preempted by federal law. I'd be happy to fax you a copy of the decision and/or chat with you about it. Email me or give me call. Bob Keller (KY3R) Email: rjk@telcomlaw.com Law Office of Robert J. Keller, P.C. Telephone: 301.229.5208 Federal Telecommunications Law Facsimile: 301.229.6875 ------------------------------ From: Ben_Burch@wes.mot.com (Ben Burch) Subject: Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio Organization: Motorola, Inc. Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 17:13:21 GMT In article , mudaw@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (David A. Webb) wrote: > An officer found my 2 meter amateur transceiver, turned it on, and > discovered it could transmit on frequencies licensed to the local > county police. I was not in my room during the time of the search, > so I had no control over its operation. This officer was in violation of federal law for tampering with an amateur radio station. Please turn him over to the FCC! Ben Burch Motorola Wireless Data Group: Ben_Burch@wes.mot.com Makers of the Envoy(R) Personal Wireless Communicator Envoy(R) Information Line; 1-800-8-WIRELESS ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio From: bill.garfield@yob.com (Bill Garfield) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 07:43:00 -0600 Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569 Reply-To: bill.garfield@yob.com (Bill Garfield) > Witness #3 was a person who services amateur equipment. He stated > that my radio is type accepted, and therefor it is illegal to modify. > Illegal modification therefor makes my radio illegal to possess. > Witness #1 was the university officer who stated under oath that he > used the radio to transmit on county frequencies to verify the > modifications. He also stated in his professional capacity that my > radio is illegally modified, and therefor illegal to possess. He > further stated that he called the FCC and was told my radio is illegal > to possess. While the writer is correct in his statement that Amateur or Ham radio equipment is not 'type-accepted', equipment which -lawfully- operates on commercial frequencies (police frequencies) and is capable of TRANSMITTING thereon, _must be_ type accepted, approved and certified for such use. The modifications therefore would constitute an equipment technical violation. Although the act of 'tampering' with non type-accepted equipment is allowable, the moment that equipment radiates energy on frequencies where type acceptance _is_ a requirement, then the modified equipment is in violation and as "property" it becomes contraband. While FCC regulations deal mainly with use and not possession, the writer may still be on shaky ground. I certainly wouldn't want the local constabulary _aware_ that I possessed transmitting equipment capable of operating on their lawfully assigned frequencies. But the obvious question which remains unanswered is -why- was the person's room searched in the first place? "Reasonable suspicion" is sufficient grounds in most jurisdictions, but suspicion of what? Ye Olde Bailey BBS Zyxel 713-520-1569(V.32bis) USR 713-520-9566(V.34/FC)| Houston,Texas yob.com Home of alt.cosuard [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, this is something the original writer did not explain to us, and as you suggest, it seems like a very important part of this whole mystery. If their 'reasonable suspicion' had to do with improper or inappropriate transmissions on the radio, then the defenses discussed to date may go topsy-turvy in court. This may or may not be the best forum for David Webb to use to say everything he knows about this case -- at least at this time -- but I hope David will get an attorney and be completely straight with him. Attornies will tell you how the worst thing in the world -- and a very common thing, unfortunatly -- is to have a client who lies to them. Then they get in court, and the *other side* tells the attorney stuff his own client had 'forgotten' to mention. End result, the attorney gets egg on his face and looks like an idiot. Attornies don't like that. So David, please do get a competent attorney, and when all is over and done with, tell us how things worked out, okay? PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 03:27:06 -0500 From: GaryNovo@aol.com Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Reply-to: gnovosielski@mcimail.com In TELECOM Digest; Mon, 16 Jan 95; 09:19:00 CST; Volume 15 : Issue 32 billsohl@earth.planet.net (Bill Sohl) writes: > No one needs any authority from the FCC to operate a receiver ... > that's one of the fundamental differences between the USA and many > other countries. In my view this so-called "fundamental difference" is a fairly hollow one. True, you don't need a license to operate a receiver in the U.S., and there are no license fees or federal taxes to be paid. I suppose, once upon a time, that "difference" implied a reverence for personal liberties which was arguably greater than it was in countries where receivers were heavily regulated, taxed, or even outlawed. But in the intervening years, Congress has passed a series of laws making the actual use of receivers illegal in a number of circumstances. The fact that they have never passed a law taxing them is cold comfort. ECPA as amended is only the latest insult. Previous laws made it illegal to intercept certain satellite downlinks (and uplinks), radar speed guns, and a number of other types of signals. If the trend continues, listening to any signal not explicitly intended for broadcast will be illegal. I know that at least one Congress member proposed legislation with just that wording. The freedom to own a device which one is not free to use is ironically appropriate in a country which increasingly seems to value ownership and property rights above the civil rights of its citizens. If I had my choice, I would much rather pay a tax or a license fee of a few bucks per year on a receiver if it brought with it the freedom to use the device as I saw fit. Gary Novosielski GPN Consulting My opinions ARE those of my employer. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:25:41 EST From: Bob Keller Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges In TELECOM Digest V15 #32, Bill Sohl wrote: > I have no problem with this statement and I'll state unequivocally > that scanners and/or other types of radio receivers are not (if > designed properly) included in the catagory "intentional or > unintential radiator" and they are not, therefore, licensed. I did not realize this was such a heated matter or I never would have stuck my nose into it ... but, now that I'm here ... A scanner most definitely is a "radiator". If nothing else, the micro- processor circuitry that makes it scan constitutes an unintentional radiator within the meaning of the rules. Many people in this thread seem to be confusing "radiator," which is a defined term of art under Part 15, with "transmitter" in the usual sense of that word. Many devices which are not "transmitters" (including not only receive-only devices, but also devices that have nothing whatsoever to do with transmission or reception of signals) nonetheless "radiate" electromagnetic energy and are subject to Part 15. In an oversimplified view, Part 15 governs two large classification of devices: (1) transmitters (in the general sense of that word) that operate at sufficiently low power levels and/or restricted circumstances that individual licensing is not necessary, and (2) devices that are _not_ transmitters (in the general sense of that word) but which nonetheless generate electromagnetic fields. The only points that I really wanted to make when I jumped in here are: (1) It is not entirely accurate to say that Part 15 places _no_ obligations on the user or the consumer. (2) The scope of Part 15 is much, much broader than what we generally think of as "transmitters." (3) User modification of a device _can_ (I don't say it _will_, I say it _can_) invalidate the device's Part 15 certification and/or verification. I am _not_ saying that home-built devices and/or user-modified devices are therefore automatically unlawful. In building or modifying a device, however, the user is responsible for keeping the technical parameters of the device within the radiation limits prescribed by Part 15 and, if those limits are exceeded, the user no-longer enjoys the right conferred by Part 15 to use the device without a license. With the possible exception of cellular scanners (which is an issue contaminated by political/industry pressures and other laws having nothing to do with the regulatory purposes of Part 15), I don't think there is any intent on the part of the government to prevent someone from building or modifying non-transmitter devices (on a non-commercial basis) in ways that do not cause interference, nor do I think there is any governmental interest in expending resources worrying it. Bob Keller (KY3R) Email: rjk@telcomlaw.com Law Office of Robert J. Keller, P.C. Telephone: 301.229.5208 Federal Telecommunications Law Facsimile: 301.229.6875 ------------------------------ From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 07:04:15 GMT In article plaws@comp..uark.edu (Peter Laws) writes: >> "The operation of an intentional or unintentional radiator > RADIATOR!!! Not receiver!! *Transmitters* are a "whole nother" thing. > Radiator != receiver (I'll leave aside poorly shielded local oscillators:). But that was the whole point. A receiver with a poorly shielded local oscillator, or for that matter a computer or sparking relay or defective fluorescent light, are UNINTENTIONAL radiators (see above) and are just as thoroughly regulated (albeit not as often enforced :-). Cliff Sharp WA9PDM clifto@indep1.chi.il.us ------------------------------ From: dibble@microware.com (Peter Dibble) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 17 Jan 1995 01:21:53 GMT Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa In article TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to Bob Keller : > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you, Bob. Section 15.21 is all > May I suggest to readers the next time you decide to purchase some sort of > radio, or television perhaps, *look at the user manual*. Let's leave Radio Are you sure about this Pat? I looked carefully through the user manual for an AM/FM receiver and couldn't find a single reference to the FCC or any form of license or precaution except that there was quite a lot of prose explaining that it could be dangerous to listen to the radio at too high a volume. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:04:50 EST From: Bob Keller Subject: Re: Cellular NAM and ESN In TELECOM Digest V15 #30, Alan Shen wrote: >> Call your cellular carrier about this. Some will allow you to have one >> NAM for two different phones (with different ESN numbers) for an extra >> charge usually from about $5-$8 a month. John Covert responded: > Absolutely not! This is a violation of the cellular standard and > forbidden by the FCC. No carrier may permit it. It will not work > correctly; if both phones are on at the same time it may interfere > with calls to other subscribers. Setting aside the technology for the moment (NAMs, ESNs, etc.), what some carrier's are offering is the ability to have the same cellular telephone number active on more than one unit. For example, Cellular One in the Washington/Baltimore area just announced the service at $17.95 per month for up to three different units. What is illegal under FCC rules is post-manufacturer modification of the ESN. This was done not for the purpose of precluding cellular "extension" phones to otherwise legitimate users, but rather in response to the ever-growing fraud due to "cloning" of cellular phones. There are ways that cellular carriers can accomplish the same result in the switch without modifying the ESN and therefore without violating the law. The FCC staff has always had a policy prohibiting ESN cloining and/or tinkering, but until recently in was based on interetation of rules that really didn't directly address the matter, as well as to incorporation by reference of external industry equipment standards. A new rule which significantly more teeth was therefore promulgated, and became effective on January 1, 1995: New FCC Rule Section 22.919 47 C.F.R. Section 22.919 --------------------------------- 22.919 Electronic serial numbers. The Electronic Serial Number (ESN) is a 32 bit binary number that uniquely identifies a cellular mobile transmitter to any cellular system. (a) Each mobile transmitter in service must have a unique ESN. (b) The ESN host component must be permanently attached to a main circuit board of the mobile transmitter and the integrity of the unit's operating software must not be alterable. The ESN must be isolated from fraudulent contact and tampering. If the ESN host component does not contain other information, that component must not be removable, and its electrical connections must not be accessible. If the ESN host component contains other information, the ESN must be encoded using one or more of the following techniques: (1) Multiplication or division by a polynomial; (2) Cyclic coding; (3) The spreading of ESN bits over various non- sequential memory locations. (c) Cellular mobile equipment must be designed such that any attempt to remove, tamper with, or change the ESN chip, its logic system, or firmware originally programmed by the manufacturer will render the mobile transmitter inoperative. (d) The ESN must be factory set and must not be alterable, transferable, removable or otherwise able to be manipulated in the field. Cellular equipment must be designed such that any attempt to remove, tamper with, or change the ESN chip, its logic system, or firmware originally programmed by the manufacturer will render the mobile transmitter inoperative. ----------------- Bob Keller (KY3R) Email: rjk@telcomlaw.com Law Office of Robert J. Keller, P.C. Telephone: 301.229.5208 Federal Telecommunications Law Facsimile: 301.229.6875 ------------------------------ From: Alan Shen Subject: Re: Cellular NAM and ESN Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 01:10:07 -0800 Organization: University of Washington On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, John R. Covert wrote: > Alan Shen wrote: >> Call your cellular carrier about this. Some will allow you to have one >> NAM for two different phones (with different ESN numbers) for an extra >> charge usually from about $5-$8 a month. > Absolutely not! This is a violation of the cellular standard and > forbidden by the FCC. No carrier may permit it. It will not work > correctly; if both phones are on at the same time it may interfere > with calls to other subscribers. Are you sure? I've seen flyers from several different carriers now offering one NAM with multiple ESN. It's perfectly legal. You must be talking about have two phones with the same NAM and ESN. Daniel Kao ------------------------------ From: jeffb65582@aol.com (JeffB65582) Subject: Re: Cellular NAM and ESN Date: 16 Jan 1995 16:20:15 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: jeffb65582@aol.com (JeffB65582) Southwestern Bell Mobile Systems in Dallas does offer the "same number with two different phones" (each with different ESN) for $10 per month. You are cautioned that if both phones are turned on, incoming calls will generally go to one phone (at random) but not both. Also, the phones can't call each other. Its a popular offering for those who have a mobile and want a handheld also. Jeff Box ------------------------------ From: jay@rain.org (Jay Hennigan) Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs Date: 17 Jan 1995 01:40:37 GMT Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN A. Padgett Peterson (padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com) wrote: > Mark Smith Mercerville, NJ writes: >> By contrast, customers not using PINs must bring their phones back to a >> carrier or dealer for a new phone number, notify business associates >> and friends of the number change, or even modify business cards and >> stationery. > Don't understand the last part, the ESN is what needs to change, not > the phone number, guess someone does not understand the difference. > This is from a telco press release? Changing either will disable the cloned phone. The ESN and MIN (phone number) must match the carrier's records for the call to go through. As it is easier for the carrier to change the MIN than the ESN, they suggest this as the solution, despite the obvious inconvenience to their customers. Even if the carriers had the capability to reprogram ESNs, I doubt that they would release it to their field-level techs. There would be a lot of under-the-table cloning for customers who want two phones on the same number originating from the carriers' own service facilities. For someone who has been hit by the cloners and wants to keep the same phone number, he can either buy a new phone (at premuim prices because of no new activation), send it back to the manufacturer for a new ESN, or find a cloner to change it to something different and not in use on the home system and then get the carrier to update its records with the new ESN. ------------------------------ From: hbaker@netcom.com (Henry Baker) Subject: Re: Cell Phone PINs Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:18:24 GMT In article , jeff@cher.heurikon.com (Jeffrey Mattox) wrote: > In article , Carl Oppedahl com> wrote: >> I was reading a book about the cellular system that was published >> eight years ago ... it identified the problem that if people copy down >> the ESN and phone number they could get free calls ... despite this >> the cellular industry moved ahead with the present system. > Somewhere, the person(s) that made the design/political decisions to > implement the system this horrible way are watching. They probalby > even have cellular phones themselves. I wonder what they are > thinking. "Gosh, I was a dumb so-an-so for ..." I wonder if it's the > same guy who invented the VCR programming scheme -- in which case he's > probably more of the mind to be laughing at the mess he's created. Highly unlikely. The attitude in big business has always been to move in packs, so that no individual will ever be blamed. "The _committee_ made the decision", etc. These guys are so clueless, that even if you pointed it out to them, they still wouldn't understand. The banking system's electronic funds transfer system is only a mite more secure than the cellular telephone system (this has been discussed on comp.risks). Even though hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud have been admitted (who knows how much worse hasn't been admitted), these guys still won't move to really fix the system. Apparently, so long as they can get insurance, they don't care what the losses are. So long as the cellular carriers can continue to pass on the losses to the _paying_ customers, and the totally clueless regulators allow them to do so, they won't lift a finger to stop the problem. ------------------------------ From: weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: Re: Cellular Phone Pricing Question Date: 17 Jan 1995 12:56:13 -0500 Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College In article , John McGing wrote: > Anyway, I have a couple of questions: Even including the $25.00 year > to the employee association, the monthly base cost is $11.03 month vs > $24.95. Over three years that's $167.00 x3 or over $500.00 in > savings. Is this deal too good to be true? The three year thing > doesn't worry me (we're NOT moving and the car phone we have is a > real top drawer Motorola we can switch to a new car.). Should it? One of the reasons for a three year contract may be due to the cell company planning on, or expecting, cell prices to drop in that period. If they do, and you are locked in for three years, they get to keep charging you under the older higher terms. For example, in some parts of the country, under certain plans, weekend local air time rates are FREE. If you are simply planning on using the phone for emergencies, then the lowest monthly rate is the best deal, and the three year committment isn't as important. If you make a lot of calls, then it is a gamble. Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| My opinions .NEQ. college's position ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #36 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa01119; 17 Jan 95 21:35 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA05620; Tue, 17 Jan 95 16:16:07 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA05613; Tue, 17 Jan 95 16:16:04 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 16:16:04 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501172216.AA05613@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #37 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 16:15:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 37 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Japan Earthquakes (Gerald Serviss) Re: Horrible Earthquake in Japan - Correction (Andrew Laurence) FAQ or File on LD Providers Wanted (Ron Parker) 206 to 360 Experience (Ron Parker) 900 Providing Advice Sought (ronnie@space.mit.edu) INMARSAT Standard Wanted (Glenn Shirley) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Paul Havinden) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Ari Wuolle) Re: 800 Numbers and Caller ID (Glenn Foote) Re: 800 Numbers from Overseas (Paul Robinson) Re: SNA Over Token Ring (K. M. Peterson) Re: GSM SIM Implementation (Harri Kinnunen) Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Ben Burch) Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Seymour Dupa) Re: GSM Cellular Operators List (Jonathan Mosen) Re: ISDN BRI Lines (Ed Goldgehn) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: serviss@tazdevil.cig.mot.com (Gerald Serviss) Subject: Japan Earthquakes Date: 17 Jan 1995 19:53:52 GMT Organization: Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola I just received some information on the effect of the Japan earthquakes on the cellular systems that we have installed. Motorola has analog cellular systems that cover about 90% of the land mass of Japan. This is taken from two different notes: An excerpt from an internal memo from Motorola Corporate: Telephone service is out for most of Kansai (Osaka area) which causes our cellular system to be down in some areas. Regarding Kansai Cellular Telephone (KCT), (Motorola's) system, 16 digital sites and 35 analog sites were down due either to electric power failure or the telephone network. We have had our entire cellular field force, as well as our subcontractor, Daimei, at work around the clock getting the system back into full service. All JSMR infrastructure is confirmed to be working, except we do not have information yet in Kyoto. An excerpt from a man on the scene in Osaka: As you may or may not know by now, there was an earthquake measuring at about 7.2-7.5 on the R scale. Buildings, highways and bridges collapsed. Needless to say this caused a dramatic increase in the call traffic on the KCT system that was running at about 90% capacity. Our apartment was shaken pretty good but we got lucky to escape with no damage, but we did get one heck of a scare when we were rudely awakened at 5:46 am when our bed turned into roller coaster. Almost all public transportation is out-of-service, I am lucky enough to live within walking distance of the MTSO so I am one of the priviledged few who got to work today. The bad news is, if we had MP16s we probably could of handled the load with minimal load shedding. However, we had to rough it with MP10s. The good news is The load has been over 100% of the determined capacity(Using Load line analysis and confirming CPU usage in the upper 90s) for about 12 hours now and the system is doing a great job at shedding load. The percentage of attempts to mobile completions has remained the same even though the total loading has fluctuated greatly. All of these numbers have not been confirmed and are just based on my preliminary analysis. Jerry Serviss Motorola Inc serviss@rtsg.mot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:41:38 -0800 From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Horrible Earthquake in Japan In comp.dcom.telecom TELECOM Digest Editor wrote: > Over 170,000 people have died ... I heard the death toll was 1,700. Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com Certified NetWare Administrator (CNA) Oakland, California, USA CD-ROM Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) Phone: (510) 547-6647 Pager: (510) 308-1903 Fax: (510) 547-8002 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This error of a extra zero in the total was caught about five minutes after that issue of the Digest was released. You and several others pointed it out as well. Now the count is up to about 1,800. PAT] ------------------------------ From: parker@olympus.net (Ron Parker) Subject: FAQ or File on LD Providers Wanted Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 19:55:28 GMT Organization: Internet for the Olympic Peninsula Is there a FAQ or file anywhere that compares the services and rates of different LD providers? I have been sweet talked into switching to AT&T's Small Business Advantage plan that was to 'provide the best rates possible for the small business'. My costs have gone up by 33% over the flat rate I was paying, my last bill was dated Nov. something and their customer service lines are swamped. I am looking for a better service. TIA, Ron P. ------------------------------ From: parker@olympus.net (Ron Parker) Subject: 206 to 360 Experience Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 20:01:31 GMT Organization: Internet for the Olympic Peninsula I have just gone thru the area code change from 206 to 360. One customer said that when she dialed our new area code she was put into a mailbox in her own company. I was aware that some PBXs would not allow a zero or one middle digit to pass but I never thought of the mailbox problem. How prevelant is this mailbox numbering problem? Ron P. ------------------------------ Subject: 900 Providing Advice Sought Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 14:01:08 EST From: ronnie@space.mit.edu Reply-To: ronnie@space.mit.edu I was hoping someone could tell me the most cost-effective way to set up my own 900 service given the following: 1. It will use touch-tone, menu-driven prompting, with the ability to transfer to a live operator. 2. I am technically knowledgable enough to set this up on a PC, and I have sources of voice-mail cards, etc. Is it more cost-effective to do it myself, or can I deal with one of those 900 resellers? If I go the reseller route, can I customize the menus, and set up transferring, etc? I will also probably want to allow people from payphones to call an 800 number and give their CC. Thanks for any help, Ron ------------------------------ From: shirleyg@stanilite.com.au Subject: INMARSAT Standard Wanted Date: 16 Jan 1995 04:05:22 +1100 Organization: Stanilite Electronics Pty. Ltd. Sydney, Australia The subject nearly says it all. I'm after the standard for INMARSAT. I know there are ITU docs that have interface specs to INMARSAT but what is the standard that defines frequencies, air word protocol, call states etc? Also is there anyone out there that knows rough estimates of prices of GSM mobiles. Seems to me Australians are paying about double what everyone else in the world is (and I want to get one next time I'm overseas). Glenn ------------------------------ From: paulh@uk.gdscorp.com (Paul Havinden) Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Date: 17 Jan 1995 10:53:57 GMT Organization: Graphic Data System Ltd, Cambridge, UK Judith Oppenheimer (producer@pipeline.com) wrote: > The call being completed with the message "this is not a free > call" are being done by Sprint. Since the caller is paying the normal call charges and I assume the 800 owner will be paying their normal rate for the call, does that mean that Sprint are in fact getting paid twice for that call? Paul Havinden Email: Paulh@uk.gdscorp.com Graphic Data Systems Tel: +44 (0)1223 371855 Cambridge,UK Fax: +44 (0)1223 371898 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, it means they are getting paid once, in two parts by two subscribers. One subscriber pays for the overseas call to the USA gateway; the other subscriber pays *what he agreed to pay all along* for a domestic 800 call from the USA gateway to wherever the call is terminated. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Ari Wuolle Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:51:06 +0200 Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas > Well I just tried it from the UK via British Telecom and got the usual > message "800 numbers from outside the **US** are not free ..." and > then I got the ringing tone, so I guess it works. Didn't stay on the > line to see who answered though! Maybe you should have stayed on line for few seconds longer. I tried to call that Canadian number at home and got: 990-1-800-668-2355 (800-NOT-BELL) {3 seconds silece} {One short US-style ringing tone} Female voice 1 :"Access to the 800 number you have dialed is not free of charge outside the United States. If answered, you will be charged international direct dialing rates for this call. If you do not want to proceed with this call please hang up now." {One normal US-style ringing tone} Female voice 2 : "We are sorry your call cannot be completed as dialed. Please check the number and dial again or call your operator for assistance. This is a recording 702-7." {US-style busy tone} This call didn't cost anything. I also tried this again few hours later from a different location. On my first try the line went dead after the first announcement. But when I tried immediately again, I got the same response as I got when I called that number at home. Ari Wuolle E-mail Ari.Wuolle@hut.fi Mail Kolkekannaksentie 10 B 4 Telephone + 358 0 509 2073 02720 ESPOO Cellphone + 358 49 431 140 FINLAND Fax (temporary) + 358 0 428 429 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It probably went dead because at the gateway point -- wherever that is -- after the first announcement the call was re-dialed to be sent to its destination. Most likely there was some error there which caused it to abort at that point. PAT] ------------------------------ From: glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Glenn Foote) Subject: Re: 800 Numbers and Caller ID Date: 15 Jan 1995 04:08:03 -0500 Organization: The Greater Columbus Freenet Jonathan Bradshaw (Jonathan@IQuest.Net) wrote: > In article , glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us > asks: >> Can someone explain IF, not why, full telephone numbers of people >> calling 800 numbers are shown (either on the bill, or as part of the >> call) to those who OWN the 800 numbers? >> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The answer is yes. People who have 800 >> numbers receive the ANI -- not the Caller-ID, > I get Caller ID NOT ANI through my 800 number depending on the > origination. From Indianapolis, I know I get full Caller ID from South > Bend and Bloomington, IN where I have tested it. This shows up as the > NAME and Number (so its NOT ANI) but if the caller dials me directly, > I see "OUT OF AREA". I don't know how far this extends but it does > seem to be quite extensive in Indiana. > Somehow One Call is picking up and transferring the CID data along > with the call. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think however we can correctly answer > the original query by stating that yes indeed, the persons who own 800 > numbers do get identifying data on all or almost all calls they receive. > If there is some reason they want to make an issue out of it, they nearly > always can backtrack to the source of the call. I think that is what our > original writer was asking about. PAT] Pat, You are right. That was what I wanted to know. However, this issue is going to raise some interesting questions among that portion of the public which is a little "touchy" about Caller-ID and "privacy". It does seem like the telephone companies are trying to have it both ways ... you pay for Call Blocking and it works, UNLESS someone else has paid for the right to see the numbers of everyone who calls ... Sooner or later I expect some group will bring this matter to court, or at least make a major public relations issue out of it. There WAS a time when those 800 numbers did not have access to the numbers calling them, they had to take "Ma Bell's WORD" on the accuracy of the bill. For that matter, the current practice of providing the ANI to the 800 number is not (to the best of my knowledge) founded in any tariff. On the other hand, those with Call Blocking are PAYING FOR a SPECIFIC service, the right NOT TO HAVE their phone numbers disclosed to those whom they wish to call. Therefore, one could argue that the Telephone Companies are in direct violation of their contract with the customer, that this situation took place with the full knowledge and INTENT of Telephone Company management personnel ... etc.. It will be interesting to see what will happen when (not, I expect if) this challenge takes place ... makes me kind of glad I retired from the Consulting business ... ;-). Glenn L Foote ...... glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They are NOT 'paying for the right to see your phone number'; they are *paying for the phone call*, period. The person or company or whatever paying for a phone call is entitled to know where -- to what telephone number -- the connection was extended. For example, you have a non-published number and you call me collect through the operator. In all probability your number will not be displayed on my Caller-ID box. When I get my bill at the end of the month however your number will be listed there in the long distance portion of the bill saying something like 'From Columbus, OH xxx-xxx-xxxx' and the time of day and number of minutes, etc. Are you suggesting because I get this information I 'paid to get your number'? All I paid for was the phone call, which legally means the call *belongs to me*, and I am entitled to know the uses made of my phone when I am charged for those uses. Any 'contract' with telco regards blocking of ID is governed by tariff. Furthermore, in my phone book where the enhanced custom calling features are explained in detail, it says plainly 'although you may choose to block delivery of your number to the telephone you are calling, you may NOT block delivery on calls to 800 numbers or collect calls.' I would think that 'contract' is rather plain. So people can be as 'touchy' as they like -- and I know a few who are -- but that is really their problem. *They* are the ones who want things both ways at the same time: *you* pay for my phone call, and *you* don't have any right to know what you are paying for, because I am a prima-donna about such things. Har har har! Then start dialing my seven digit number and paying for it yourself, bozo. Either that, or handle those calls similar to 'blocked number blocking' with an intercept saying 'the 800 number you have dialed requires your phone number. Since you wish to not give it, please hang up and dial the regular number, paying for the call yourself.' PAT] ------------------------------ From: Paul.Robinson@f417.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Robinson) Date: 17 Jan 95 09:50:48 -0500 Subject: Re: 800 Numbers from Overseas Reply-To: Paul Robinson Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring MD USA Mr Robert Hall writes: > What about calls from the U.S. to other countries' toll-free > numbers? Since Hong Kong is a small country and local calls are > free, the use of 800 numbers here has been pretty much limited to > accessing a particular foreign carrier's "home direct" service. > For example, from within Hong Kong, I dial 800-1111 to get the AT&T > "bong" to place calls charged to my AT&T card. If someone > Stateside dials 011-852-800-1111 do they loop back to AT&T's "bong?" They're smarter than that. I called it from Montgomery County, in Maryland and got a recording saying my International Call could not be dialed, probably the same as if you, in Hong Kong, tried to dial 1-703-950-1022, the access number for MCI here in the Washington, DC area. Fidonet: Paul Robinson 1:109/417 Internet: Paul.Robinson@f417.n109.z1.fidonet.org ------------------------------ From: kmp@tiac.net (K. M. Peterson) Subject: Re: SNA Over Token Ring Date: 17 Jan 1995 15:48:18 GMT Organization: KMPeterson/Boston In article Paul Robinson writes: > Timothy S. Chaffee , writes: >> I am looking into moving our print traffic from a SDLC/SNA >> connection to run over our Token Ring network. Can this be done? Any >> pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! > There is a company -- the name escapes me -- selling a product called > the "Hydra" which connnects in place of a terminal controller, and > allows RS232 connections to look like 3270 terminals, allowing a > person on a PC or a modem to call into an SNA terminal network as if > their terminal WAS a 3270 terminal. If they can do this, they probably > have something that will do what you want. Yes, but no. Token Ring runs SNA natively. If you're running in an IBM host environment (mainframe), it's just some configuration and hardware changes. If you're running TCP/IP on that Token-Ring, you have the changes above and a change of protocol. Remember the idea of a protocol stack: which layer is giving you a problem, the physical media or the higher layers? If you use SNA for printing, then you have an LU type that needs to be converted to LPR/LPD in the worst case... which is not a pretty picture. If it's only a physical layer change (running over the Ring v. SDLC), it's simple. K. M. Peterson eMail: KMP@TIAC.NET WWW: http://www.tiac.net/users/peterson/home.html Phone: +1 617 731 6177 voice +1 617 730 5969 fax ------------------------------ From: k22413@kyyppari.hkkk.fi (Harri Kinnunen) Subject: Re: GSM SIM Implementation Date: 17 Jan 95 14:35:29 GMT Organization: Helsinki School of Economics In johnl@ctin.adelaide.edu.au (John Leske) writes: > It is a Smartcard (ISO-7816). That is, a single chip micro with its > own ROM, RAM and non-volatial storage. The specific implementation for > GSM is defined in the GSM specs. There are multiple manufacturers of > this card. The specific characterisitics vary from manufacturer to > manufacturer. I believe some companies are looking at up to 16k or > 32kbit on the chip. The GSM-related data lies in a sub-directory on > the chip. Most of the hand-held GSM phones use a "punched-out" section of the Smartcard, being about 1cmx2cm in size. The punch-out dimensions are also standard, but I don't know if they are included in ISO-7816. Harri ------------------------------ From: Ben_Burch@wes.mot.com (Ben Burch) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Organization: Motorola, Inc. Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:47:07 GMT In article , laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) wrote: > Recently I saw someone who appeared to be trying to steal a car, so, > being a good citizen, I ducked around the corner out of sight and > dialed 911 on my handheld cellular phone. Though I was standing on a > street three blocks from San Francisco City Hall, I was connected to > the California Highway Patrol. I waited several minutes for an operator > to come on the line, and finally gave up. > Good thing no one's life or safety was in danger. This bad result is because you did the wrong thing! How many time do people have to be told to dial the cellular operator, and say; "Operator, this is an emergency, please connect me with the police department emergency line." This takes a few seconds longer, but reaching help was the job here, not airtime minimization. Ben Burch Ben_Burch@wes.mot.com ------------------------------ From: grumpy@en.com (Seymour Dupa) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Date: 17 Jan 1995 10:14:47 -0500 Organization: Exchange Network Services, Inc. Gerald Serviss (serviss@tazdevil.cig.mot.com) wrote: > The use of the strongest signal is no guarantee of routing the call > correctly, especially if you are in a building. As I understand it, the cell site receiving the strongest signal locks on to it, but all of the surrounding cell sites still receive the signal, althought at a lower level. If this is correct, could some sort of 'triangulation' be done to narrow down the phones' location? I know true triangulation requires directional antennas to determine from what direction the signal is comming, but in this context, couldn't the signal strenghts received by the surrounding sites be used somehow to narrow down the location? For example, if the signal received by three cell sites was almost equal, wouldn't the phones' location be at the center of the area between the sites? ------------------------------ From: jmosen@actrix.gen.nz@actrix.gen.nz (Jonathan Mosen) Subject: Re: GSM Cellular Operators List Reply-To: jmosen@actrix.gen.nz Organization: Actrix Networks -- NZ Internet Service Providers. Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 01:24:01 GMT In article , etxlndh@eos99.ericsson.se (Robert Lindh) wrote: > Luxemburg Telekom > Norway Tele-Mobil > Netcom > Portugal TMN New Zealand also has a GSM network, run by Bell South. Jonathan Mosen, Manager Government Relations, Royal New Zealand Foundation for the Blind, jmosen@actrix.gen.nz ------------------------------ From: edg@ocn.com (Ed Goldgehn) Subject: Re: ISDN BRI Lines Date: 17 Jan 1995 06:25:58 GMT Organization: The INTERNET Connection, LLC In article , 0006718446@mcimail.com says: > GTE South has offered ISDN service here in Lexington, KY for the last > two years. However, when I enquire about a BRI line, they tell me I > must PREDETERMINE what I want to do with the two B-channels. For > example, B1 will always be used for voice calls, and B2 will always be > used for switched 56 data. I don't consider this true ISDN. Has > anyone else run across anything like this? This is quite standard ... in fact there are many additional questions you'll need to answer before you get your line (terminal type and switch settings to name a few). For more info, read the ISDN FAQ which can be found on comp.dcom.isdn Ed Goldgehn E-Mail: edg@ocn.com Sr. Vice President Voice: (404) 919-1561 Open Communication Networks, Inc. Fax: (404) 919-1568 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #37 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa05751; 17 Jan 95 22:31 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA09675; Tue, 17 Jan 95 17:57:04 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA09668; Tue, 17 Jan 95 17:57:02 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 17:57:02 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501172357.AA09668@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #38 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 17:57:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 38 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas (Tor-Einar Jarnbjo) Re: Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! (Raymond Mereniuk) Re: Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! (Jim Cebula) Call Waiting and Comm Software (Mansoor Chishtie) Call Waiting and Caller-ID Question (Repeat) (Keith Knipschild) Re: Bellcore Standards Question (Wally Ritchie) Re: B8ZS, AMI, Bipolar Line Coding? (synchro@access3.digex.net) Re: Where is PicturePhone II Now? (synchro@access3.digex.net) Re: ATT Entering Rochester Market (Steve Samler) Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? (John Nagle) Re: Some Questions About the LDDS Calling Card (Rob Boudrie) Re: "High-end" Phone Products (Paul Crick) Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California (Eric Paulak) Re: SNA Over Token Ring (James Dollar) Re: Urgent Help Needed With European Phone Systems (Christian Weisgerber) Re: Urgent Help Needed With European Phone Systems (Harri Kinnunen) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: producer@pipeline.com (Judith Oppenheimer) Subject: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) Date: 17 Jan 1995 13:32:56 -0500 Organization: Interactive CallBrand(TM) Negotiations are under way for a new International Freephone Service which would compromise the value and integrity of existing 800 numbers for U.S. 800 customers. There is a User Statement which was presented in Geneva in November '94 that calls for grandfathering of existing 800 assignments. This position protects and promotes the interests of all U.S. businesses utilizing 800 service for brand reinforcement, direct marketing, customer service, etc. This user position fully supports the U.S. position as developed in January, '93, and was signed by the Ad Hoc Telecommunications Users Committee, Aeronautical Radio, Inc., American Airlines, American Express Company, Continental Airlines, Electronic Data Systems Corp., Ford Motor Company, International Communications Association, Norwest Technical Services, Inc., USAir, and Versus Strategy Group, Inc. However, due to the immense revenues awaiting their clearance into international freephone service ($1.10 per minute), the U.S. carriers are not supporting the U.S. position. (No disrespect to European participants of this newsgroup.) They are siding with the European position that calls for starting with a "clean slate" because they can then enter this market more quickly. The European position imposes a lottery where there is more than one applicant for a specific international freephone number. You can imagine the land rush this will create among European carriers and their customers, especially for valuable numbers such as 800 THE CARD, 800 HOLIDAY, and 800 FLOWERS, or Home Shopping Club's well-ensconced 800 284-3200. This per the final report from a source who has been present at the meetings: "U.S .Carriers appear to be rushing for approval of a service that is unsatisfactory. Although the proposed service is unfair to the U.S. Customer as it is currently written, it appears that if the service can be approved before there is wide spread customer awareness of the situation, the carriers can "blame" the Europeans for not supporting a compromise that would protect users." Some of you may already be aware of this, but having just found out about it, I'm bringing it to the attention of everyone I know who is a major 800 subscriber. J. Oppenheimer, Producer@Pipeline.com Interactive CallBrand(TM) ------------------------------ From: bjote@cs.tu-berlin.de (Tor-Einar Jarnbjo) Subject: Re: 800 Numbers From Overseas Date: 17 Jan 1995 17:38:31 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Mr Robert Hall (robhall@HK.Super.NET) wrote: > So, I wonder if the assumption that it's up to my local IDD provider > to just turn on access to U.S. toll-free numbers is, in fact correct, > or whether the U.S. 800 service provider has a say in the deal as > well. Are there all of the usual tariff negotiations between the > carriers? I have tried sometimes to call US 800-numbers from Norway, and either they are completed or I get a message telling "Your call cannot be completed as dialed. Please check the numbers and try again, or call your local operator for assistance". When you try to call 800-numbers from Germany you get a German message telling, that the area-code you have dialed does not exist. Dialing Norwegian toll-free numbers from Germany does not work (exept for the tip-phone of the Norwegian Customs) because the phone-system in Norway have recently been changed, so when I call 00 47 80 0x xx xx (which is a toll-free number) the Norwegian exchange believes of some reason that I have dialed the Norwegian number (080) 00x xx, and since the (080) area-code earlier was for cellulars, it just tells me that the number have been changed, and to call a local operator for the new one. Tor-Einar Jarnbjo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 15:38:10 -0800 From: Raymond Mereniuk Subject: Re: Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! > ..land in Francois Lake - near Burns Lake in Northern BC > .."Gee, what about ISDN" Canada has 26 - 27 million people living mainly within 200 miles of the 49th latitude. I live in the Lower Mainland area (Vancouver), within 30 miles of the 49th latitude, which has a population of approximately two million and within this area ISDN is very difficult to obtain. ISDN is available only out of selected COs and even if you have a local loop out of one of these COs you will find ISDN very difficult to obtain. Switched 56 (Northern Telecom Datapath) should be available out of most Lower Mainland COs providing your local loop is less than 4.5 kilometers. Burns Lake is at least 360 miles north of Vancouver; considering the strengths and weaknesses of BC Tel you may be lucky to have access to any sort of functioning land line. The telcos in Canada are still regulated monopolies and BC Tel is definitely not one of the best managed of the Canadian telcos. Some third-world countries have better infrastructure than BC Tel and it is difficult to have employee relations that can be any worse than BC Tel's. The union problem is so bad at BC Tel that all sales people and some management people are unionized, the good union brothers can't have too many scabs near them. Dealing with BC Tel is very difficult, BC Tel may offer certain services but they don't keep your BC Tel rep informed and finding someone who is in the know is almost impossible. I worked for a company which sold data comm equipment and it was not uncommon to send a service tech out to do an install who then spent a day or more trying to convince BC Tel that their lines had a problem or two. Now you want `IS..D..what'. I heard a rumor a few years ago which indicated BC Tel's main source of CO switches was Chile, as the Chilian telco upgraded their switches BC Tel took all their old switches through a deal with BC Tel's parent GTE. In an attempt to satisfy demand for digital and enhanced analog services they have installed at least one Northern Telecom DMS 100 switch in all exchanges within the Lower Mainland area; not all have the software to offer ISDN. If you do not live within a major population centre, Lower Mainland, Victoria, Kelowna, or Kamloops you are right of luck if you require anything more than POTS. The Telco in Saskatchewan has announced universal Internet access as part of their normal offering. BC Tel responded with a statement, something like since the Lower Mainland area has the highest density of Internet access providers in Canada there is no requirement for BC Tel to provide universal Internet access anywhere in BC. I believe BC Systems Corp., a BC government Crown corporation, is attempting to become the main source of Internet access in BC, but possibly primarily on a wholesale basis and maybe only to government facilities. The best solution may be for you and your neighbors to contact the local MLA (member of the legislative assembly - BC gov't) and have him help you make your voice heard. Unfortunately, due to Canadian politics, if your MLA is part of the oppostion you are really out of luck. Maybe you could try the CRTC, the same people who attempted to institute a $6 per month (over three years) increase in basic telephone rates which the telcos did not even request. Welcome to Canada, the country where the government taxes you but never listens to you. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They probably learned how to govern by following the example seen to their south in the USA. Down here we get taxed a-plenty also and no one wants to listen to anything you have to say ... nothing. PAT] ------------------------------ From: jimmyc@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Jim Cebula) Subject: Re: Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 01:45:27 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club In Article TELECOM Digest Editor noted in response to John Leong : > maintain the subscribers who have it. I don't think telcos in the USA > can take on new party line customers either; they just have to sit and > wait patiently to get rid of the ones they have had all along. PAT] I'm certainly not sure about the regulations regarding new party lines, but Bell Atlantic (Greater Pittsburgh area) still states "A two-party line is available for $xxxx" in the front section of the phone book where they list the rates for the different residential service plans. Jim ------------------------------ From: mansoor@newshost.micro.ti.com (Mansoor Chishtie) Subject: Call Waiting and Comm Software Organization: Texas Instruments, Houston Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 21:14:19 GMT I am wondering why I have to disable my call waiting feature before I can run my PC comm software. I know that there are some comm packages available such as PC Anywhere that automatically detects call waiting beeps and warns you that a call is coming in. You can do a quick save and software will connect you to the incoming voice call. It probably disconnects itself from the remote modem (loss of carrier) and reestab- lishes the connection after the voice call is over. I think that it is possible due to the fact that modems on both sides are running the same software. Hence they can communicate with each other and hang-up safely without any loss of data. But I'm not sure how they detect call-waiting beeps from real data and during brief moments when exchange switches from data to warning beeps, how do they manage to recover. Any thoughts from telecom experts welcome. I'm interested in learning how to do that as well as any comm software that successfully does that. If possible, please email any responses directly to me. I can post a summary here if others are interested. Regards, Mansoor A. Chishtie ------------------------------ From: keith.knipschild@asb.com Organization: America's Suggestion Box - BBS (516) 471-8625 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 18:46:37 Subject: Call Waiting and Caller-ID Question (Repeat) I posted a message last week concering CALL-WAITING's CALLER ID, But got no responces ... so here I go again: I just my the lastest copy of the "HELLO DIRECT" Catalog and on page 24 they adverise a Northern Telecom phone model# " PowerTouch 225 " The ad states : CALLER ID, CALL WAITING MODULE Comming in mid-1995, You'll see who's on a CALL WAITING call, without inter- rupting the call you're already on ... I never heard of any telcos offering this. The only way to achive this was by having an ISDN line. Also, they mention "ADSI" ???? The ad states: Looking ahead to the future Comming in late-1995, is ADSI It will help you do your banking, pay bills, and such - by phone... If anyone has info please POST or E-Mail me ... Thanks, Keith Keith.Knipschild@asb.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We briefly discussed Caller-ID on Call Waiting here about a month ago or so. Maybe someone will point you to that message for starters. PAT] ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Bellcore Standards Question Date: 17 Jan 1995 04:25:57 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , charris@coypu.cig.mot.com (Craig Harris) writes: > I am looking for any Bellcore specification on an idle T-1 channel. > That is, if the channel is idle, would the T1 equipment send 01111111 > or 10000000? The "classic" spec is PUB 43801. Equivalent information, however, is contained in many other documents. For PCM voice, idle channels are required to be encoded with a near zero level which may not necessarily be a continuous code. Digital generation of a zero level, however, result in all zero PCM level which can be transmitted as all ones. There are actually two zero level code words in PCM which are sometimes called positive and negative zero. Some equipment will alternate positive and negative zeros for a zero level. Accordingly the MSB may alternate between zero and one. The LSB will contain signalling every 6th frame. The state of the signalling bits will depend on the particular channel units (or equivalent) involved. Unequipped channels MUST transmit a 1 in the A bit position. This normally corresponds to a OFF-HOOK state for most channel units. The general rule is that a receiver should interpret X111111X as an idle or zero level code. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: synchro@access3.digex.net (Steve) Subject: Re: B8ZS, AMI, Bipolar Line Coding? Date: 17 Jan 1995 11:55:29 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA AMI (Alternate Mark Inversion) is a linecode that has a one's density requirement so as to prevent the repeaters from freaking out. B8ZS (Binary Eight Zero Substitution) is a linecode that substitutes a special string when eight zeroes in a row are presented. This method was developed so as to eliminate the one's density requirement thus allowing various "clear channel" applications to flourish (64k, crypto, video, ...) When you order a T1 from telco you specify the linecode flavor and set your CSU/DSU accordingly. Take it easy, Steve ------------------------------ From: synchro@access3.digex.net (Steve) Subject: Re: Where is PicturePhone II Now? Date: 17 Jan 1995 11:57:41 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA My RBOC has a few floating around as conversation desk ornanments. Take it easy, Steve [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I wonder whatever happened to the various private vendors of 'picturephone' like instruments a few years ago? One company was offering a slow-scan version in sets of two. Presumably you had one and members of your family elsewhere had the other one. Then too, in a unique approach to the adult sexphone market, about three years ago an Information Provider made an unusual offer: He had this bunch of nice ladies working for him, and not only did they want to talk to you about whatever, they wanted to *show* you what they were doing! His solution to that was to offer slow-scan video/picturephone devices to his customers. You could purchase one outright and get some period of time free on his network to chat and view the folks of your choice, or you could lease the device from him, having made some sort of security deposit with your credit card. After a certain number of months on the lease, you bought it for a dollar more if desired. His ad ran in a few adult magazines for several months, then I did not see it any longer. He was based out of Florida somewhere; Pensacola comes to mind. Anyone know who I mean? PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:14:24 EST From: Steve Samler Subject: Re: ATT Entering Rochester Market MFS Intelenet is planning to offer service by March 31. Time Warner has plans for mid year. Both will be using their own switch MFS (AXE 10) TW 5ESS. For more info see page 6 of last week's {Telephony}. ------------------------------ From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) Subject: Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 17:48:47 GMT Linc Madison (LincMad@netcom.com) wrote: > In some of the recent discussions of the swarm of new area codes > coming this year, I've seen notations that the wireless companies are > challenging plans to move wireless services (cellular, beepers, etc.) > into an overlay area code. The challenges are being made to the state > regulators and/or to the FCC. > My question is, on what grounds are they challenging the overlays? It > seems to me that the tariffs have always been pretty clear that the > telco does not in any way guarantee that you will be able to keep a > given number or area code. It's a monopoly competition issue. The RBOCs shouldn't be allowed to keep the "good" numbers while insisting that competitors use the new "bad" numbers. See the article in the 13 Jan 95 {Wall Street Journal}. John Nagle ------------------------------ From: rboudrie@ecii.org (Rob Boudrie) Subject: Re: Some Questions About the LDDS Calling Card Date: 17 Jan 1995 13:30:25 -0500 Organization: Center for High Performance Computing of WPI > b) My card has the logo of "American Travel Network" on the > upper-right-hand side. I also hear "Metromedia" associated with the > LDDS name, but it doesn't appear on the card. Who's ATN, are there ATN = American Travel Network. Some sort of reseller/marketer of LDDS. LDDS is sold through other hcannels at apparantly higher rates. > different versions of the card, and if so are there different rates? I think the ATN card is 17.5 (at leat that's what mine is, and it's mode of delivery and card description matches mine). The only "catch" is that they apear to round the calls individually, then add. (i.e., 10 one minute calls at $.175 round to $.18 each and add to $1.80, not $1.75). ------------------------------ From: paulc@cix.compulink.co.uk (Paul Crick) Subject: Re: "High-End" Phone Products Organization: L C Bickler & Co Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 13:37:46 GMT > I'm 99.9995832% sure there are no three-line cordlesses, other than > those dedicated to work with specific multi-line phone systems. 99.9995832? Obviously using a Pentium :-) Sorry - I couldn't resist! Paul Crick: paulc@cix.compulink.co.uk -- +44-1534-287213 (24 hours) paulc@bickler.demon.co.uk -- PO Box 783, Jersey JE4 0SH, UK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:36:51 -0500 From: ericp@ucg.com (Eric Paulak) Subject: Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California Linc Madison asked: > Have the IXC's reduced their rates on calls between LATAs in > California to be more in line with both the new intra-LATA and > interstate rates? The answers a resounding "yes." In fact, AT&T, MCI and Sprint have all undercut Pac Bell's rates. For example: For a 45-mile call from L.A. to Anaheim using basic 1+ business service, Pac Bell charges $.136 for the first minute and $.114/minute thereafter. AT&T charges $.11 for all mintues With its Preferred service, MCI charges $.04075 for the first 30-seconds and $.00815 for every six-second increment thereafter. There are currently 98 long distance carriers who have signed up to offer service in California's intraLATA market. Call the Consumer Affairs Branch of the Public Utility Commission to get a complete list, to inclue the 10-XXX codes. They can be reached in-state at (800) 649-7570. Eric Paulak The Center for Communications Management Information (301) 816-8950, ext. 327 11300 Rockville Pike, Suite 1100, Rockville, MD 20852 ------------------------------ From: James Dollar Subject: Re: SNA Over Token Ring Date: 17 Jan 1995 07:09:24 GMT Organization: InfiNet Paul Robinson wrote: > Timothy S. Chaffee , writes: >> I am looking into moving our print traffic from a SDLC/SNA >> connection to run over our Token Ring network. Can this be done? Any >> pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! What my company moved to was using Novell's SAA gateway with HostPrint software; allowing sdlc or sna attachment on one side and both ethernet and token ring connections out the other. Novell captures the print job and spools it to Novell's print queues using JetDirect cards, old pc's, Intel Netports, and we even print to printers on tcp/ip terminal servers via Novell's Flex/IP product. Not a CNE; just solved a problem with their software. j$ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 21:03 MET From: naddy@mips.pfalz.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Urgent Help Needed With European Phone Systems In comp.dcom.telecom you write: > What should I do to make a cordless phone work in Europe? DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO THIS. > I bought it in Canada. North American cordless phones operate in frequency ranges reserved for entirely different services in Europe. Using such a phone will interfere with those services. E.g. Berlin airport was not happy to find people's chatter from foreign cordless phone in their tower/aircraft communications. This is *not* like connecting an unapproved modem/telephone set/ answering machine/etc to the phone network. Using a North American cordless phone will be operation of an illegal radio transmitter, i.e. constitute a felony. AFAIK, in Germany the usual sentence for *possession* of such illegal transmitters is one year on probation. (Licensed amateur radio operators are allowed possession.) Laws in other European countries are likely to be very severe about this, too. Christian 'naddy' Weisgerber, Germany naddy@mips.pfalz.de ------------------------------ From: k22413@kyyppari.hkkk.fi (Harri Kinnunen) Subject: Re: Urgent Help Needed With European Phone Systems Date: 17 Jan 95 14:29:13 GMT Organization: Helsinki School of Economics In petar@trance.helix.net (Petar Nikic) writes: > What should I do to make a cordless phone work in Europe? I bought it > in Canada. There are two problems with the plugs: the phone plug and > the plug for the recharger. Both of them are different than those > which Europeans use. This is not authorative answer, but: If your phone has RJ-plug (the small (1x1x1cm) kind), local phone companies carry adapters for those. I'm not sure about the wiring scheme, but give it a try. > I am sure that somebody else has been faced with these problems. So, I > would appreciate any help. Harri [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: But, as our earlier correspondent notes, this fellow's problems go a lot further than just swapping around a few plugs to get it hooked into the phone system. Apparently the entire frequency range is off-limits for this use. I am sorry all this information did not get back to him before he left on his trip. Oh well, maybe they will be lenient on him and simply settle for confiscating the phone. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #38 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa06416; 17 Jan 95 23:44 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA12057; Tue, 17 Jan 95 19:26:17 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA12050; Tue, 17 Jan 95 19:26:13 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 19:26:13 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501180126.AA12050@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #39 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 19:26:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 39 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Call For Papers: JMLICS (Mehmet Orgun) Re: How to Keep Track of Calls on Busy (Caller ID on Busy)? (Seymour Dupa) Re: Prepaid Telephone Debit Cards (P1854) Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? (Ted Hadley) Re: 10-XXX Codes (Lizanne Hurst) Re: Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Just Names (Tony Waddell) Re: Cellular Phone Pricing Question (Andrew Laurence) Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? (Paul Beker) Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? (Dave Rand) Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? (Barton F. Bruce) Re: Bellcore Standards Question (Bill Mayhew) Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly (John Rice) Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly (B Thompson) Where Can I Buy Telephones (franci.visnovic@uni-mb.si) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 10:41:38 +1100 From: mehmet@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Mehmet Orgun) Subject: Call For Papers: JMLICS Call for Papers The Journal of Methods of Logic in Computer Science Special Issue: Formal Methods in Logic for Responsive Systems A responsive computing system is one which responds to internal programs or external inputs in a timely, dependable and predictable manner. These systems are a hybrid of real-time, distributed, secure, safety-critical, and fault-tolerant systems. In such a system, any failure can cause catastrophes ranging from financial loss and loss of privacy to physical damage and loss of life. Thus, it is important to ensure that the system is not only correct, but remains correct at run time, under abnormal circumstances. The major difficulty facing designers is the complexity inherent in responsive computing systems. In practice, informal approaches are often used which can result in latent failures, under-specified systems, or inconsistencies. One way to counteract these problems is to bring the idea of rigor and formalism from traditional systems engineering fields into the development of software through the use of formal methods. Formal methods of logic, in particular, can be used to rigorously synthesize, specify, verify, debug, and model responsive computing systems. However, formal methods of logic are usually dismissed as the domain of academicians and viewed as irrelevant or not applicable to the design and implementation of large-scale software projects due to their mathematical complexity. To bring these two opposing camps together, work that emphasizes and reinforces the point that formal methods can, and should, be used in the practical construction of high quality, reliable distributed software is of interest. This special issue will bring together papers in the following areas that support the use of formal methods of logic in the construction of responsive computing systems: o Formal Specification/Verification/Refinement Techniques o Requirements Specification o Assertional Reasoning and Executable Assertions o Model Checking o Testing and Debugging (Predicate Detection) o Tool Support o Formal Semantics of Concurrency/Recovery o Compositional Proof Systems o Distributed Systems Security o Experience Reports Papers should, ideally, emphasize results that can be applied to the construction of actual responsive computing systems (although, work is in no way solely limited to experience reports). Please submit six copies of your manuscript to the guest editor by June 1, 1995: Bruce McMillin Computer Science Department (516)-632-8334 (FAX) State University of New York at Stony Brook (516)-632-8218 (Office) Room 1420 Computer Science Building (516)-632-8471 (Secretary) Stony Brook, NY 11794-4400 USA e-mail(bruce@cs.sunysb.edu) Instructions for submitting papers: Papers should not exceed 30 double spaced pages. Papers should not have been previously published, nor currently submitted elsewhere for publication. Papers should include a title page containing title, authors' names and affiliations, postal and e-mail addresses, telephone numbers and Fax numbers. Papers should include a 300 word abstract and 5-10 keywords and be written in the IEEE Transactions style. Each paper will be peer-reviewed by at least three referees. [Note: If you are willing to referee papers for this special issue, please send a note with your research interest to the guest editor.] Notification of acceptance will be sent by September 1, 1995; final versions will be due by October 15, 1995. The special issue will be published in the 2nd Quarter 1996. ------------------------------ From: grumpy@en.com (Seymour Dupa) Subject: Re: How to Keep Track of Calls on Busy (Caller ID on Busy)? Date: 17 Jan 1995 12:16:57 -0500 Organization: Exchange Network Services, Inc. Steve Cogorno (cogorno@netcom.com) wrote: > Ask your phone company for an analysis. They will do it, but maybe > not for for a residential customer, and it may not be free. I would think the phone company would be *happy* to do that report for you. This is the way the phone company can show their multi-line customers how many calls they are missing and take their order for more lines. ------------------------------ From: p1854@aol.com (P1854) Subject: Re: Prepaid Telephone Debit Cards Date: 17 Jan 1995 13:20:36 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: p1854@aol.com (P1854) Peter Pappas in Tampa 813-288-3253 is looking for prepaid cards for friend in Mass who wants to use for school financing. Any leads would be appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 10:35:31 PST From: tedh@cylink.COM (Ted Hadley) Subject: Re: Would You Believe More Rain on the Way? Pat, > Well, good luck and my best regards, folks. It seems like the people > in California spend all summer burning the place down, then spend > all winter enduring mud slides and flooding. Thanks, but you forgot the earthquakes! :) I live near San Jose, and yes, we have had lots of rain. But there have been no real problems in the majority of the areas. Mudslides in the mountain passes and flooding where the cities left flood control work unfinished in the last few years and highway flooding where the routine maintenance wasn't. The only real problems were in Marin County along the Russian River and in Sacramento. Ted Hadley tedh@cylink.com ------------------------------ From: lh00@Lehigh.EDU (Lizanne Hurst) Subject: Re: 10-XXX Codes Date: 17 Jan 1995 15:20:24 -0500 Organization: Lehigh University Thanks for posting this information. However, I think one key point requires clarification. > According to a law that was passed in 1990, all aggregators must > unblock their switches so that a caller can reach their long distance > carrier of choice. What this required so that you wouldn't get stuck > paying for the cost of the calls was that your switch had to pass > through and differentiate calls that started with either 10-XXX-1 or > calls that started with 10-XXX-0. If you're referring to the Telephone Operator Consumer Services Improvement Act of 1990 (Public Law 101-435), aggregators (hospitals, hotels, universities) are required to unblock only 10-XXX-0 calls, *not* 10-XXX-1 calls. All the rest of your remarks are pretty much in line with the Act as I remember it. Additional information is available in the FCC's Report and Order, FCC 91-214. As a side note, ACUTA (the Association of College and University Telecommunications Administrators) lobbied unsuccessfully to overturn universities' classification as aggregators. An aggregator, as defined in this case, is an entity which provides service for the public and/or transient users; ACUTA challenged the assumption that student users are "transient." Lizanne Hurst Office of Telecommunications Lehigh University (610) 758-5014 ------------------------------ From: Tony Waddell Subject: Re: Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Just Names Date: 17 Jan 1995 16:47:11 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't know how many you think is a > 'bunch', but unless it is really a lot, and you plan to do this on > a frequent basis, why don't you ask the telco serving the local calling > area for a copy of their directory. Most telcos will send it free of > charge, or they may get some small handling/postage fee. Then you would > sit there and look them up. After you have found all you can, then call > AC-555-1212 for the (hopefully) few remaining names. PAT] I'm not sure if this is PACBELL policy only, or whether it's fairly consistent across the country, but I wanted a phone book from my home town, Davenport, Iowa. I was quoted a charge in excess of $50! And its not even a very thick book. Naturally, I declined. Another alternative might be available. Don't most telcos offer a listing service? I seem to recall that you can mail a list of names to the business office and they will attempt to provide a phone number for each name providing the number is published (I don't know if they'll provide addresses), There was a charged for this, but I don't remember it as being excessive. ------------------------------ From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Cellular Phone Pricing Question Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:40:58 GMT weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) writes: > In article , John McGing digex.net> wrote: >> Anyway, I have a couple of questions: Even including the $25.00 year >> to the employee association, the monthly base cost is $11.03 month vs >> $24.95. Over three years that's $167.00 x3 or over $500.00 in >> savings. Is this deal too good to be true? The three year thing >> doesn't worry me (we're NOT moving and the car phone we have is a >> real top drawer Motorola we can switch to a new car.). Should it? > One of the reasons for a three year contract may be due to the cell > company planning on, or expecting, cell prices to drop in that period. > If they do, and you are locked in for three years, they get to keep > charging you under the older higher terms. For example, in some parts > of the country, under certain plans, weekend local air time rates are > FREE. I have GTE Mobilnet, and when they lowered the rates on my plan by $3.00 per month and allowed users to choose a peak/off-peak rate or stick with the flat rate at their option, I received the discount and was able to switch to peak/off-peak without extending my one-year contract (which had about eight months to run at the time). I DO have unlimited weekend calling, but I pay $15.00 per month for the privilege. Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com Certified NetWare Administrator (CNA) Oakland, California, USA CD-ROM Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) Phone: (510) 547-6647 Pager: (510) 308-1903 Fax: (510) 547-8002 ------------------------------ From: pbeker@netcom.com (Paul Beker) Subject: Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 23:16:39 GMT clukas@mr.net (chuck lukaszewski) writes: > I received some information from LDDS/Metromedia yesterday about their > long distance service. The rates seem entirely too good to be true, > and I'm wondering if anyone here has experience (good or bad) that > they would share. I've been using LDDS/Metromedia quite a bit in the past few months, and am generally pleased with them. The rates I have are actually through American Travel Network (a LDDS/Metromedia reseller). (800-477-9692) o ATN/LDDS/Metromedia Calling Card: - 17.5c/minute anywhere in the USA, anytime. - No per-call surcharges, no minimum. The quality of the connections on these calls occassionally seems marginal, by 1990s standards, but in my opinion, well worth saving upwards of a dollar per call. Most of my calls are to check voice mail, so ... o ATN/LDDS/Metromedia "Dial 1" residential (?) LD service: The rate schedule is split, with the five area codes with most usage being on one schedule, and other calls on the other schedule: Five NPAs Other NPAs Day (8am-5pm) 17.5c 22.5c Night (5pm-8am) 10.0c 12.5c There is a minimum monthly usage of one hour. The quality of the calls seems, again, slightly below 'big three' standards, but definitely acceptable. Call setup time is slower (2-4 sec., I would guess), and the actual ringing / busy tones sound horrible (! - dunno why). But once the connection is made, the calls sound fine. One more thing to note: You are billed separately from your local telco's bill. In other words, I receive a bill each month that contains only my calling card calls and my dial 1+ calls from home, directly from LDDS/Metromedia. My opinions only -- although this does look a lot like an ad for ATN, it isn't ... I have no connection with them or LDDS/Metromedia whatsoever. (I only wish I had thought of the no-fee calling card years ago.) Paul Beker - Atlanta, GA pbeker@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: dlr@daver.bungi.com (Dave Rand) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 10:05:00 PST Subject: Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? > I received some information from LDDS/Metromedia yesterday about their > long distance service. The rates seem entirely too good to be true, > and I'm wondering if anyone here has experience (good or bad) that > they would share. Their rates are very good. *HOWEVER* Be warned. They quoted rates of 0.27/min inbound 800, 0.25/min outbound switched to Canada for me. As most of my call volume on 800 comes from Canada, this is a significant decrease from the normal rates of 0.60-0.30. Having read the fine print on the contract -- it claims that the contract term is for service only, and does not guarantee rates -- I added a notation on my contract that the Canada rates were to be as quoted. This was a *very* good idea. First, LDDS slammed all nine of my telephone lines. I switched them back. They slammed them again. I switched them back. They slammed all but my primary outbound line, and I didn't notice for a month! Around $250 or so in PIC charges, that month. Moral -- make sure that you have *all* your lines protected, as they *will* find out all your phone numbers, even if you don't give them out. Then the bill came. The calls are rated at 0.37/minute. Customer service says "too bad". My salesman says "oops -- the rates went up *the day after* we signed up, too bad.". I said, "PUC, fraud, bait-and-switch, contracted amount!" Long discussions followed. The salesman wasn't allowed to change the contract, according to LDDS -- their problem, not mine, I pointed out to them. As of now, we are still fighting over credits, but they have agreed to give me the contracted rate, for the contracted period (one year). The dust has not settled. Be careful out there in telecom-land! Dave Rand Internet: dlr@daver.bungi.com ------------------------------ From: Barton.Bruce@camb.com Subject: Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? Date: 15 Jan 95 22:54:43 -0500 Organization: Cambridge Computer Associates, Inc. In article , tedh@cylink.COM (Ted Hadley) writes: > In article synchro@access1.digex.net > (Steve) writes: >> There is a company in California called Cylink. They make several >> different kinds of crypto gear for communications. I'm unable to come >> up with a telephone number for them at the moment. > Telephone number is 408-735-5800. Try 800 info for their 800 number. The cylink guy posting should have at least tooted his horn about their *EXCELENT* and *EXTENSIVE* collection of FAX-BACKable material you can just get yourself -- no salesfolk needed. They also make spread spectrum no-license needed radio links. ------------------------------ From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew) Subject: Re: Bellcore Standards Question Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:50:36 GMT I have some doucmentation from Wescom, who makes a lot of T1 eqipment for telco applications. There are two codes for zero. The coding of the signal is mu-law 255. There are 16 chords in the same with linear values in each chord. The coding is two's-complement. As it is set up, the MSB is the sign. That yields -0 and +0 as equally valid codes of 01111111 and 11111111 respectively. The code codes are fed out of the bank as a PCM NRZ data stream. A zero bit is coded as no voltage shift in a bit time cell. A one bit is coded as a voltage level transition in either direction. No more than seven zeros in a row are permitted, or an automatic on insertion occurs to prevent the demodulator from losing lock on the incoming bit stream. This can result of one LSB resoultion on a maximal signal. Since low levels contain a lot of ones, there is no loss of resolution on small signals due to forced ones. Also, if you are using older D4 non ESF (extended superframe) equipment. A bit will be robbed every 6th frame for signalling. The robbed bits alternate between the A bit and B bit. FX Station FX Office cirucit xmt rcv dir xmt rcv A B A B A B A B busy/tip grd 0 <- 0 idle/tip open 1 <- 1 busy/ring 0 <- 0 idle/no ring 1 <- 1 idle/loop open 0 -> 0 busy/loop closed 1 -> 1 busy/ring rnd 0 -> 0 idle/ring open 1 -> 1 0 1 1 1 g strt idle 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 g strt busy 0 1 1 1 ESF cahnnel banks code the PCM the same way, but use a technique called forced bipolar violation to code the signalling and other control bits in the data stream and also remove the restriction of no more than seven consecutive zeros. The ESF signal is almost NRZ, but differentiates by coding two ones in a row of the *same* polarity when the offending 00 code would have occured. The dobule ones alternate so that the DC offset is still held to approximately zero (exclusive of any "sealing current" that the trnasmission eqipment injects on the circuit). You should se a lot of ones on an idle circuit. The most significant bit could be either zero or one. I don't know if Belcore has a spec on what should be done; my docs aren't that specific. The LSB is going to vary if you are on a D4 channel bank depending on the A and B bits. See the table above. Bill Mayhew NEOUCOM Computer Services Department Rootstown, OH 44272-0095 USA phone: 216-325-2511 wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu amateur radio 146.58: N8WED ------------------------------ From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com (John Rice) Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Date: 17 Jan 95 14:45:54 CST Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division In article , cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka) writes: > Payphone owners receive no revenues from 800 calls. Hence I'd imagine > that they don't rate 800-access problems very high on their list of > priorities. Hotels are getting just as bad (or worse), especially the 'majors'. I was in the Ohare Ramada last night and they wanted .50/call to call an 800 number or to call collect. John Rice K9IJ rice@ttd.teradyne.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Ohare Ramada? Why didn't you call and say hello? Whenever Digest readers are in the Chicago area they are invited to call, or meet as long as we plan it a little ahead. PAT] ------------------------------ From: thompson@robin.tezcat.com (Bob Thompson) Subject: Re: Atlanta Airport's Pay Phones Reject 1-800 Numbers Randomly Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:31:34 GMT Organization: Tezcat.COM, Chicago In article pbeker@netcom.com (Paul Beker) writes: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You wonder what AT&T had to do to get the > account? Well I can tell you what Illinois Bell had to do to get the > O'Hare Airport account a few years ago: when the newspapers exposed the > city council members and Aviation Department employees who got the bribes > and the IBT employees who paid the bribes, there was quite a stink for > a short while, then everyone sort of forgot about it. PAT] Wasn't the epic airport struggle (some years back) the one at DFW between GenTel and AT&T. This was of course in the 'old' telephone days. Anyone remember any details. /bob/ (in Chicago, yet) ------------------------------ Subject: Where Can I Buy Telephones? From: franci.visnovic@uni-mb.si (Emilio) Date: 17 Jan 95 18:27:11 +0200 Organization: University of Maribor, Slovenia Hello, Please, can someone give me a email address of a person which sells telephones (Panasonic, Sony, AT&T). Regards, Franci! email: franci.visnovic@uni-mb.si [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Here in the USA we are very accustomed to seeing stores everywhere that sell phones. Any of the brand names you mentioned above are for sale anywhere you go here. All the stores have deals with one or more of the above, and quite a few others as well. Perhaps one or more of the various dealer/distributor/retail sales people reading this Digest will respond to you and assist you. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #39 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa07333; 18 Jan 95 2:04 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA15639; Tue, 17 Jan 95 21:48:04 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA15632; Tue, 17 Jan 95 21:48:01 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 21:48:01 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501180348.AA15632@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #40 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 21:48:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 40 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Modem-Voice Incoming Call Switching (Harold Buehl) Re: Call Overflow Question (Chris Hardaker) Re: Cellphone Now Giving ANI? (Steve Brack) Re: 206 to 360 Experience (Carl Moore) Re: Distinctive Ringing Specifications (Wayne Huffman) Re: General Datacom ATM Switches Sign Deal With Siemens (brenner@mars) Re: Long Distance Blocking, was Re: Old Rotary Service Question (W Huffman) Re: Horrible Eartquake in Japan (Peter Leif Rasmussen) Re: GSM Cellular Operators List (Matthew Richardson) Re: How to Find Your Number (Carl Moore) Re: 500 Number Assignments (Carter Thomasson) Re: 500 Number Assignments (bkron@netcom.com) Re: AT&T Enters Rochester NY Local Telephone Market (Bob Thompson) Re: Acronym for "Information Superhighway" (Mark Brader) Re: GSM Cellular Operators List (Kimmo Ketolainen) Re: Address Wanted For KPN (Hendrik Rood) Digital Cellular Phones (Mark Stieger) PBX Information Needed (chrisd@blazers.com) Re: LD ISDN Service (Ed Goldgehn) Re: Address Wanted For KPN (Jean B. Sarrazin) Zombie Voice on COCOTS (Carl Moore) Re: About the GIF Incident and Substitutes (Dik T. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hbuehl@dsm1.dsmnet.com Subject: Re: Modem-Voice Incoming Call Switching Date: 17 Jan 1995 19:51:36 GMT Organization: Des Moines Internet Reply-To: hbuehl@dsm1.dsmnet.com In , jmandel@carbon.cudenver.edu (Jan Mandel) writes: > A while ago I have posted a question how to switch incoming calls to > an answering machine or a modem. Many have pointed out that incoming > modem call is just silence and it is the answering modem that makes > the shreeking noise. Thank you all. > Consequently to decide if the incoming call is modem or not one would > have to subject all callers to the unpleasant shreek. I am a little late in seeing this thread, but there is another solution. The modems can be set up as reverse-carrier which means that it is the calling modem that "shreeks" and the receiving modem is silent. This is the way that FAX/MODEM switches work where you can share a single line between a Fax Machine, a modem, and a answering machine. Unfortunatly, both the sending and receiving modems need to be set up as reverse-carrier so you cannot use this for a bulletin-board type of setup since the callers will have to use a non-standard setup inorder to access your dial-in line. Harold Buehl ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Call Overflow Question From: hardaker@clear.co.nz (Chris Hardaker) Date: 17 Jan 95 09:21:15 EST This is in reply to Mark Kelly's question about overflowing from one DN to another. It depends on the technology supporting your T1. If it is sitting on some advanced switch like a DMS (advanced in relation to electro-mechanical), a simple 'replace tuple' after the overflowing trunk group and then send the switch back to it's digit analysis tables will do the trick. This set up will work with a few of the MITEL and GEC PBX's out there also. If it's anything older than a DMS, a second trunk group appears to be your only choice. Chris Hardaker Network Manager CLEAR Communications Auckland New Zealand Ph + 64 9 912 4286 Fax + 64 9 912 4451 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 17:11:55 -0500 From: Steve Brack Subject: Re: Cellphone Now Giving ANI? In article holland@perot.mtsu.edu (Mr. James Holland) wrote: > The ANI returned on my cellular service (CellOne of Tennessee) is that > of the business office of the local 911 office. Any idea why that is, > or if it's only a fluke? Applying some social engineering, the ANI of the 911 business office would probably be a good flag for special subscriber numbers that don't return a true ANI, like cellular numbers. After all, how often do you think their own business office calls 911? Steve Brack, Consultant | sbrack@eng.utoledo.edu Toledo, OH 43613-1605 | sbrack@cse.utoledo.edu MY OWN OPINIONS | Tel: +1 419 534 7349 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: My beeper works something like that. If you call it and punch in a number, then I get the number on the display screen. If you don't punch in a number but just leave a voice message then it still beeps me but displays the number of itself. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 23:40:49 GMT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: 206 to 360 Experience Regarding the person whose calls to area code 360 wind up in her own company's voicemail boxes ... How does she dial calls to: 1. long distance points (originating at the company, right?); 2. mailboxes within the company? ------------------------------ From: whuffman@ix.netcom.com (Wayne Huffman) Subject: Re: Distinctive Ringing Specifications Date: 17 Jan 1995 23:44:03 GMT Organization: Netcom In vlai@wimsey.com (Vincent Lai) writes: > Does anybody know how to get the specifications for distinctive > ringing in USA and Canada? Any help is appreciated. As I recall, Distinctive ringing is (was) called Multiple Directory Numbers per Line with Distinctive Ringing - MDNL/DR in the AT&T 5ESS Switch documentation. This may help someone researching this. (I used to be a 5ESS switch tech in an AT&T Digital CO). Wayne Huffman ------------------------------ From: Brenner@mars.superlink.net (Brenner) Subject: Re: General Datacom ATM Switches Sign Deal With Siemens Date: 17 Jan 1995 14:34:09 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. MCI announced that it would be using GDC ATM switches. I'm not _positive_, but I think AT&T is using its own GlobeView 2000 switch. Brenner ------------------------------ From: whuffman@ix.netcom.com (Wayne Huffman) Subject: Re: Long Distance Blocking, was Re: Old Rotary Service Question Date: 18 Jan 1995 00:32:49 GMT Organization: Netcom In dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein) writes: > b) There was often also a current reversal when calling the operator > or some other telco numbers. But local calls would go through ok. As I recall, this was also used as a method to return coins at a coin telephone when calling a (then) "free" nomber such as 411, "0" operator, and the telephone company business office. My mom used to be the cord- board (!) operator at the local Ma Bell business office, and I would call her at work and get my dime (later quarter) back when the local CO would reverse the current momentarily. Ah, memories! Wayne Huffman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 09:37:15 JST From: plr@ichigo.os.nasu.toshiba.co.jp (Peter Leif Rasmussen) Subject: Re: Horrible Eartquake in Japan Yes, it was an eartquake of quite some magnitude, but you have got a few figures a little wrong. The last count I saw with the number of dead poeple were around 1500, so if you skip a zero in your "170,000 people have died" then it looks more realistic. It will probably go over 2000 when they have finished their clean up. I don't know if it is the worst quake in over a hundred years in Japan, but maybe in the area called Kansai in Japan (with Kyoto, Osaka and Kobe). I think the earthquake in Tokyo in 1923 are considered to be worse (I don't remember the figures) and then many thousans died, not so much because of bulidings crashing, but more because of the burning down of the (woodden) houses. I don't live in the area, but 500km away from it, however even here they were able to measure it. All TV stations only had one program yesterday: The Earthquake. I think the quake is comparable to the one in Los Angeles some time ago, but I think also this time the burning down of buildings will be bad, because of the little (and expensive) space, they are built very close. That is all I have, but somebody living closer might have more details? Peter Rasmussen [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Regards the increasing death count, on the television news tonight it was over 1800. Having the buildings as close together as they are does not help, and as you point out it makes the fires even worse. A couple months ago here in Chicago we had an entire city block burn down. About a dozen buildings were involved which are built very close together (just perhaps five feet of space between each of them) combined with extremely strong winds. As the burning embers flew through the air they landed on rooftops up and down that block; a couple buildings on the other side of the street also caught fire as a result. PAT] ------------------------------ From: matthew@cix.compulink.co.uk (Matthew Richardson) Subject: Re: GSM Cellular Operators List Organization: I.T. Consultancy Limited, Jersey Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 19:31:14 GMT Another one for the list:- Jersey Telecoms Jersey (obviously!) Channel Islands British Isles The service went live in December, 1994. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 18:40:12 GMT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: How to Find Your Number The 800-MY-ANI-IS number proved to be useful to me in some stretches of travel where I was making an AT&T call at virtually every exchange I passed through. I encountered numerous cases where no number was displayed on the telephone. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:55:04 -0500 From: CTHOMASSON@aol.com Subject: Re: 500 Number Assignments In Vol. 14, issue 459 bkron@netcom.com provided a list of the 500 number assignments by company. What was the effective date of the list and is there an updated version available? Carter Thomasson Intercontinental Telecommunications ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:53:35 PST From: Kronos Subject: Re: 500 Number Assignments CTHOMASSON@aol.com wrote: > In Vol. 14, issue 459 bkron@netcom.com provided a list of the 500 number > assignments by company. What was the effective date of the list and is there > an updated version available ? That data was effective 12/1/94 and there have been no modification to the assignments as of this date (1/17/95). ------------------------------ From: thompson@robin.tezcat.com (Bob Thompson) Subject: Re: AT&T Enters Rochester NY Local Telephone Market Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:24:17 CST Organization: Tezcat.COM, Chicago In article wegeng.XKeys@xerox.com writes: > Several recent messages to the Digest have discussed the recent > changes to the local telephone service regulations that allow for > competition in the Rochester, Ny telephone market. The January 10, > 1995 edition of the {Rochester Democrat & Chronicle} contains a full > page ad from AT&T advertising that they are entering this market. For > fun, I called the toll free number contained in the ad (1 800 716-4ATT) > to learn more about what AT&T is offering. > The AT&T rep didn`t know what the rates would be after the three > month period, but suggested thay they would remain competitive. > AT&T is offering most of the advanced services that Rochester Telephone > offers, with voice mail being the most asked for missing service (again > all of this is implemented by Rochester Tel and resold by AT&T). I > also learned that there is no sign up fee through March 31. Don -- well, let me tell you what ATT did to us here in the Chicago market. They began offering service (accessed by 10288) for longer intra-lata calls (over eight miles, which are timed calls here, less than eight being untimed). They advertised the hell out of it -- cheaper than Ameritech (formerly Illinois Bell), they advertised. And it was. 15-mile calls were (these are from memory but fairly accurate) around 1 to 1.5 cents/minute, vs Ameritech at 1.5 to 2.0 cents (depending on day and time). Then, three months later (December) the rates changed. No ads, no announcements. Seven cents/minute now -- roughly three times the Ameritech rates. It turns out the low rates were "temporary, introductory rates." Talk about bait and switch. This is hook and switch! A fair number of businesses had programmed their systems to automatically add the 10288 dial string. And they didn't find out about the change, often, till the new bills were processed, perhaps after six to eight weeks of paying higher rates. So, if you switch to ATT for local service, watch what they do to you. OTOH, we still go ATT for interstate long distance. /bob/ [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Even though AT&T did not advertise their increase in rates, Illinois Bell made sure to let everyone know about the changes. Did you see the ads run by Ameritech (IBT) saying 'AT&T has such a deal for you! They want you to pay 81 percent more for you local calls than we do ...' The ad went on to explain how the AT&T rates had increased after the short 'introductory' period. PAT] ------------------------------ From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) Subject: Re: Acronym for "Information Superhighway" Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 22:10:22 GMT > [ ... I guess now they will make things so miserable on the Internet > large numbers of people will drop out. PAT] ... calling it a cesspool and a dungheap as they do, Pat? Mark Brader, msb@sq.com | "Those who mourn for 'USENET like it was' should SoftQuad Inc. | remember the original design estimates of maximum Toronto | traffic volume: 2 articles/day" -- Steven Bellovin [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Wait a minute! *I* invented the 'cesspool and dungheap' descriptions. If other people want to use those, they are going to have to pay me royalties. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi (Kimmo Ketolainen) Subject: Re: GSM Cellular Operators List Organization: Turun yliopisto - University of Turku, Turku, Finland Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 03:01:08 GMT > Estonia EMT New: Estonia=09=09Radiolinja > Hong Kong Smartone Also: Hong Kong=09Telecom CSL Kimmo Ketolainen University of Turku home +358 21 237 8227 Kimmo.Ketolainen@utu.fi shoe +358 40 500 2957 FIN-20540 Turku http://www.utu.fi/finland.html work +358 21 262 1496 ------------------------------ From: roodh@dds.nl (Hendrik Rood) Subject: Re: Address Wanted For KPN Date: 17 Jan 1995 04:15:29 GMT Organization: Hendrik's Humble Home Hero In article , k920672@kingston.ac.uk (Stephen Warner) says: > Can someone tell me the smail address of KPN, a Dutch Telecoms Company? PTT Telecom Netherlands is the telecom-division of KPN (the others are a mail division and a multimedia division). It can be reached at: PTT Telecom Netherlands P.O. Box 30150 2500 GD The Hague The Netherlands. I suggest you write the IEB (Dutch abbreviation for internal and external affairs) Department. Hendrik Rood PTT Telecom Network Services Switched Services department. ------------------------------ From: stud@icicle.winternet.com (Mark Stieger) Subject: Digital Cellular Phones Date: 13 Jan 95 10:49:24 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc I'm looking at getting a Motorola Digital cell phone (Micro Digital model) and was wondering if anyone on here had expierience with it, specs on it, technical info, etc. Also, does it use the same accessories as the standard Motorola flip phones? Also, are there any places that sell it via mail unactivated for a decent price? they want $699 for it here. Thanks, Mark ------------------------------ From: chrisd@blazers.com Subject: PBX Information Needed Date: 17 Jan 1995 23:37:06 GMT Organization: Portland Trail Blazers Inc I am at present evaluating the AT&T 3gi PBX as well as the NT 61c. Anybody have any good information on these systems to help me with my decision. ------------------------------ From: edg@ocn.com (Ed Goldgehn) Subject: Re: LD ISDN Service Date: 17 Jan 1995 06:29:08 GMT Organization: The INTERNET Connection, LLC In article , john@katy.com says... > At long last, Southwestern Bell is offering ISDN service in St. Louis. > We need to select a LD company, our current carrier LDDS says they > don't offer it. Any recommendations from the crowd? What LDDS is saying is that they don't have SS7 signaling in your area for data calls. Where are you going to be calling with your ISDN line? IMHO, you're better off with either AT&T or MCI for overall deployment reasons. Ed Goldgehn E-Mail: edg@ocn.com Sr. Vice President Voice: (404) 919-1561 Open Communication Networks, Inc. Fax: (404) 919-1568 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 11:19:13 +0100 From: jean@xs4all.nl (Jean BSarrazin) Subject: Re: Address Wanted For KPN I have the address for the Amsterdam District office: La Guardiaweg 5 1043 DE Amsterdam The Netherlands. Although recently privatized, KPN still suffers from the Dutch bureaucracy syndrome -- in other words, you may have to make a few phone calls there before getting an answer. Their phone is +31 20 484 8484. Jean B Sarrazin Ekkosys Communications BV Amsterdam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 17:46:09 EST From: Carl Moore Subject: Zombie Voice on COCOTS Does anyone know what I am talking about when I describe a voice frequently heard on COCOTS (saying things like "thank you", "please wait", "this is not a valid number", etc.) as female and "zombie"? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I certainly do. 'Please deposit thirty five cents' is my favorite of the zombie's instructions. PAT] ------------------------------ From: dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter) Subject: Re: About the GIF Incident and Substitutes Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 00:06:53 GMT In article Paul Robinson writes: > With the recent problems over the use of Unisys patented LZW > compression in GIF files, there has been suggested people switch to > JPEG format. Then someone else pointed out that IBM has a patent on > the compression format that uses. > Aparently both are the same algorithm. David Winfrey > points out that the information on this is in rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/ > news.answers/compression-faq/part[1-3]. They are not the same. GIF uses LZW, patented by Unisys; JPEG uses arithmetic coding, patented by IBM. But JPEG also allows Huffman coding which is used by most generally available JPEG software. (BTW, actually LZW is also patented by IBM to make it more confusing.) dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj amsterdam, nederland, +31205924098 home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; e-mail: dik@cwi.nl ------------------------------ From: dreuben@netcom.com (CID Tech/INSG) Subject: Re: Mail Order Outlet For Cellular Batteries Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 03:42:33 PST On 4 Jan 95 03:54:48 GMT, robbie@hermes.dciem.dnd.ca (G. Robert Arrabito) wrote: > I'm looking for a mail order outlet in either Canada or the U.S. which > carries NMH batteries for my Motorola cellular phone. Can anyone suggest > good, reliable companies? It took me a while to dig out the info, but we've ordered from Cellular Products Distributors in LA. We never bought NMH from them (yet), but I've seen some offered there at rather good prices. (Nothing for my Audiovox Ultravox [the smallest one] -- anyone know of a good source for these rather unusual NMH batteries?) Their info is: Cellular Products Distributors 1616 Contner Ave Los Angeles, CA, 90025 (800) 654-3050 (800) 443-9889 (CA) (310) 312-0778 (310) 473-7782 (Fax) Doug Reuben dreuben@netcom.com/dreuben@interpage.net (203) 499 - 5221 CID Technologies*Interpage(TM) E-Mail/Internet Paging and Fax Services ------------------------------ From: norbert@PrimeNet.Com Subject: Need Phone Numbers for Consumer Telephone Equipment Companies Date: 18 Jan 1995 00:18:24 GMT Organization: Primenet I would appreciate telephone numbers for any mail order companies which concentrate on telephone equipment including equipment for the general consumer market. Also any comments based on experience with these companies regarding service and pricing would be appreciated. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: When this comes up, as it does quite often, the one standard recommendation I always make is to contact 'Hello Direct' for a copy of their catalog. Call 1-800-HI-HELLO. Gee, I wish those folks were sponsors of this Digest; I talk about them often enough some have already accused me of getting paid by them! I don't though ... its just that they have pretty good stuff. My other suggestion is to not forget Radio Shack. 1-800-THE-SHACK will get you on their mailing list. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #40 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa08959; 18 Jan 95 3:12 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA16801; Tue, 17 Jan 95 22:44:11 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA16793; Tue, 17 Jan 95 22:44:07 CST Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 22:44:07 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501180444.AA16793@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #41 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 22:44:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 41 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd (Dave Levenson) Re: ANI Information in Realtime (Dave Levenson) Re: Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Names (bkron@netcom.com) Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (Wm. Randolph U Franklin) Re: Need Info on Two-Line, Digital Answering Devices With ANI (S Schwartz) Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? (primeperf@aol.com) Re: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) (Dik Winter) Re: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) (Bob Goudreau) Re: 360 NPA in Partial Service (Don Skidmore) Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California (Linc Madison) Long Distance Caller ID (Paul J. Zawada) New Tennex Codes in 516 (Stan Schwartz) 630 Area Code and New Dialing Patterns (Mitch Weiss) Cattle Call (Randy Gellens) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Mobile Joins the PIN Crowd Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 02:21:15 GMT The cellular carriers appear to be under the mistaken impression that a PIN, transmitted in the clear over the air, will somehow be more secure than a MIN and ESN, also transmitted in the clear, over the air! If only a few subscribers use a PIN, then it will appear to be secure, because those who would clone the MIN and ESN don't bother trying to intercept the PIN. When everybody uses a PIN, then the cloners will have sufficient incentive to intercept and use the PIN along with the MIN and ESN, and we'll be right back where we are today. This is merely another example of an attempt at security through obscurity. I predict that the benefit will be temporary. Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 ------------------------------ From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Re: ANI Information in Realtime Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 02:40:08 GMT ESSMAN (74656.557@compuserve.com) writes: > I currently have 800 service through AT&T and I receive ANI > information with my bill once per month. I'd like to receive the ANI > info real-time but no one at AT&T seems to know what I'm talking > about. AT&T does offer real-time ANI on 800 numbers, but only if the inbound calls are delivered through AT&T MegaCom(sm) or ISDN service. MegaCom is their bypass service, where a leased T-1 span connects their tandem switch directly to the customer premises. They use wink-start to deliver ANI or DNIS (maybe both? I don't know) using in-band DTMF signaling. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Even though ANI and Caller-ID are two > separate things ... with this in mind, at least one carrier > providing 800 service *does* display in realtime the ANI of the > calling party via the Caller-ID display unit. I've forgotten which > company it is ... someone remind me. WillTel (who is resold by Cable & Wireless and probably a few others) provides ANI over the CallerID channel. Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: uunet!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 ------------------------------ From: bkron@netcom.com (BUBEYE!) Subject: Re: Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Just Names Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 03:01:59 GMT Tony Waddell writes: > I'm not sure if this is PACBELL policy only, or whether it's fairly > consistent across the country, but I wanted a phone book from my home > town, Davenport, Iowa. I was quoted a charge in excess of $50! Shop around for phone books like everything else! I needed a Phoenix book and called US West (who serves Arizona) and was quoted what seemed to be a high price. On a lark, I called Pac Bell and was quoted a price much lower for the identical book! Get the numbers for the various Baby Bell's directory departments (they all have 800 numbers) and call around. You'll be surprised. This is one market (foreign directories) where they actually compete against each other. ------------------------------ From: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin) Subject: Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio Date: 18 Jan 1995 03:34:06 GMT Organization: ECSE Dept, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY, 12180 USA Reply-To: wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm. Randolph U Franklin) I can't comment on the radio aspects, but can shed a little light on university judicial environments. I've been a university faculty member since 78, and, so far as I can see, typical university judicial proceedings for students are run like child abuse determinations, or like the Elizabethan Star Chamber -- in total secrecy and with no one having any statutory rights. Where I work: - Trials, names of the defendant, and verdicts of the student-run judicial board are secret, except for a sanitized one-sentence summary. ("Stolen $1000 computer, Bray Hall, last week, restitution and 100 hours service"). - Even the plaintiff has no right to attend the trial or to learn the verdict. (This came out when a woman accused a man of date-raping her.) - The defendant and witnesses have no right to keep silent, but must answer questions. This rule is in the student handbook. This system survives because the student leaders like it. The secrecy preserves the rights of a defendant who is found innocent, and the general anonymity is considered to be required by the Buckley amendment. This is a law that makes student academic records secret. (In contrast, the comparable rule for people's financial records is that there is not even an expectation of secrecy.) So it's not at all surprising how the student with the radio was treated. Regrettable, yes. Surprising, no. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: He wrote me earlier today and now I am unable to find his letter (dammit!) ... he said the reason they were there was because it was believed he was in possession of stolen property. He said he knew that was not the case, had nothing to hide or be concerned about, so he told them go ahead and search. Apparently they did not find any stolen property -- he knew in his own heart he was innocent of that -- but I guess he did not expect them to get off on a tangent about his radio equipment either. PAT] ------------------------------ From: stans@panix.com (Stan Schwartz) Subject: Re: Need Info on Two-Line, Digital Answering Devices With ANI Date: 17 Jan 1995 22:34:04 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Richard Jay Solomon (rjs@farnsworth.mit.edu) wrote: > Has anyone tested or reviewed the Friday machine by Bogen or AT&T's > new two-line digital answering machine? Will they respond to ANI like > the NTI device mentioned in TELECOM Digest? Richard: I had the Friday for about a week. It's a pretty flimsy machine for the $300 MSRP. It doesn't handle ANI or CID, but it does recognize distinctive-ringning. It went back within a week. Stan ------------------------------ From: primeperf@aol.com (Prime perf) Subject: Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? Date: 17 Jan 1995 20:50:20 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Reply-To: primeperf@aol.com (Prime perf) The numbers that you have for LDDS/Metromedia are correct for no volume commitment and a one year time commitment. I switched to them about four months ago because of their rates and found the service as good as that from the previous carrier -- Sprint. Besides, the calling card rates are also excellent. You can get AT&T to come up with a better line than the one you are getting if you can commit to more than $200 per month for a period of one to three years. Their Option "S" offering has commitment levels of $200 - $1,000 - $3,000 - $5,000 per month for the one to three year period. The higher the level you are willing to commit to, the better. Then again, if you can get a really good rate and equivalent service from the fourth largest service provider with no volume commitment, who needs any of the three largest! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 03:08:06 +0100 From: Dik.Winter@cwi.nl Subject: Re: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) > The European position imposes a lottery where there is more than one > applicant for a specific international freephone number. You can > imagine the land rush this will create among European carriers and > their customers, especially for valuable numbers such as 800 THE CARD, > 800 HOLIDAY, and 800 FLOWERS, or Home Shopping Club's well-ensconced > 800 284-3200. Why would any European customer wish numbers like 800 THE CARD, unless they expect most of their traffic from the US? If I would wish to dial that number I have to go to my cupboard, take out a photocopy from a newsletter of the Dutch Telecom that has a photograph of a US phone to be able to translate it to digits. And why is 284-3200 so charished? I see no reason at all. In Europe letters are *not* used. And when they were used assignment was not identical to the US assignment. See the telecom archives for an article were I gave some European assignments. For your information, when letters were present on the phones in the Netherlands, I could translate my phone number below as: +CABKEJBDKJH, not very interesting. dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj amsterdam, nederland, +31205924098 home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; e-mail: dik@cwi.nl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 21:18:58 -0500 From: goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com (Bob Goudreau) Subject: Re: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) producer@pipeline.com (Judith Oppenheimer) writes: > Negotiations are under way for a new International Freephone Service > which would compromise the value and integrity of existing 800 numbers > for U.S. 800 customers. > There is a User Statement which was presented in Geneva in November > '94 that calls for grandfathering of existing 800 assignments.... > The European position imposes a lottery where there is more than one > applicant for a specific international freephone number. You can > imagine the land rush this will create among European carriers and > their customers, especially for valuable numbers such as 800 THE CARD, > 800 HOLIDAY, and 800 FLOWERS, or Home Shopping Club's well-ensconced > 800 284-3200. Could you provide more background, please? The last I heard about international free-phone service was a proposal a few years ago for a new "800" country code. Is that what the Geneva plan is about? If so, I can't see how it would "compromise the value and integrity of existing 800 numbers". The new international numbers would be a whole separate number space, dialed as +800 XXX...., while existing NANP 800 numbers could still be dialed from withing the NANP as they are today: 1-800-NXX-XXXX. What are the details about the proposal for "grandfathering of existing 800 assignments"? Is the idea that any existing NANP 800 number will in the future be reachable as +800-NXX-XXXX as well? (I.e., there will only be a single free-phone number space for the whole world?) That doesn't sound very practical. Also, how can grandfathering be done fairly for *all* existing 800 numbers, including those in other countries? If some company in the US currently owns 1-800-234-5678, and another company in the UK owns 0800-234-567, then who wins? And what about the problem we already have in the US, where the 800 NPA is almost full anyway, which means that we will probably see the introduction of another free-phone NPA soon anyway? How will international free-phone service deal with such new NPAs? In short, what is the numbering space of the proposed international free-phone service, and why exactly would it cause problems? Bob Goudreau Data General Corporation goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 Alexander Drive +1 919 248 6231 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA ------------------------------ From: dskidmo@halcyon.com (Don Skidmore) Subject: Re: 360 NPA in Partial Service Date: Mon, 16 Jan 95 15:20:54 PST Organization: The Lone Net-Surfer :-) ! In article , rjones@ixion.com says: > Area code 206 is now like the Chicago (312/708) situation. 360 will > surround 206. Once 360 takes effect, 206 will become the Seattle, > Tacoma, and possibly Everett (and surrounding areas) with the rest of > what was 206 becoming 360. At least that's my understanding. Actually, 206 is *not quite* completely surrounded by 360. There is a small area at about 3 o'clock (summit of Snoqualmie Pass) where 206 abuts 509. In article , cmoore@ARL.MIL says: > There are local calls across the 301/410 border (Md.) and 215/610 > border in Pa., and the area code is used for this where just the seven > digit number was used before. It will be interesting to see for sure, but the local telco claims local calls can be dialed as local numbers even if you are calling from one area code into another. dskidmo@halcyon.com dskidmo@eskimo.com Bellevue, Washington USA [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yet someone has stated that starting in about two years we here in 312/708 will be forced to dial eleven digits for all our calls, even if they are in the same area code. See a later message in this issue for details. PAT] ------------------------------ From: lincmad@netcom.com (Linc Madison) Subject: Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 03:54:20 GMT Eric Paulak (ericp@ucg.com) wrote: > Linc Madison asked: >> Have the IXC's reduced their rates on calls between LATAs in >> California to be more in line with both the new intra-LATA and >> interstate rates? > The answers a resounding "yes." In fact, AT&T, MCI and Sprint have all > undercut Pac Bell's rates. For example: > For a 45-mile call from L.A. to Anaheim using basic 1+ business service, But you haven't even addressed my question. My question was about INTER-lata rates -- calls **BETWEEN** LATAs. For example, a call from L.A. to San Francisco. I know that INTRA-lata rates have been reduced dramatically by Pacific Bell and even more dramatically by the IXCs, but the last I checked it was still about $0.30 or $0.35 for a one-minute daytime call from one end of the state to the other on any of the Big Three. So, I'll ask the question that has still not been answered: have the IXCs reduced their INTER-LATA rates in line with the new INTRA-LATA rates? (Hint: they can't be undercutting Pacific Bell, because Pacific Bell is still not permitted to carry these calls.) Linc Madison * Oakland, California * LincMad@Netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 18:32:18 -0600 From: Paul J Zawada Subject: Long Distance Caller ID I've had a couple of interesting conversations with the folks at Ameritech regarading the delivery of interstate Caller-ID information. I have a question or two regarding the availablity of the above service, so let me summarize and pose a question or two to the readers of TELECOM Digest. Having been frustrated with having Caller ID in Champaign, IL for over six months and having ~70% of my calls come up with "OUT OF AREA", I decided to call Ameritech and try to figure out whether or not I should keep this near-useless service. If I receive a call that originated on one of the two DMS-100s in town, I will get the calling party's number(CPN). Otherwise, I usually get the "OUT OF AREA" message. One time I actually received the CPN for a call from the 415 NPA (I think), but otherwise the CPN doesn't come through for numbers outside of the Champaign area. I had read somewhere that the FCC was going to require carrier (both LEC and IXC) to pass CPN info back and forth where SS7 was in place. Sure enough, I dug a little and found that a "Report and Order and Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" was issued with such a requirement. (URL= http://fcc.gov:70/0/Orders/Common_Carrier/orcc4001.txt.) However the order doesn't seem to have any effective date and seems a bit wimpy to me ... With this under my belt, I called the Ameritech residential service number and asked the rep if there was anyway she could find out if and when this was going to happen. I mentioned the above rule to at the very least rationalize to myself that I wasn't off my rocker She said someone would get back with me. About a day later I received a message telling me to call back the same number. After finding my way around the Touch-Tone menu maze, I finally reached a rep who seemed very disinterested in helping me. She told me that the official response from within Ameritech was "No one at Ameritech or AT&T had heard of the particular ruling you mentioned and that the problem was not with Ameritech." She went on to say that I should contact my long distance carrier for more information. The call was over in less than 45 seconds. I spent the day stewing over this terse response and decided I'd call back and tell them I wasn't satisfied with their first answer. So I called back and luckily got on the line with a rep that had a clue. (Yes, there are some RBOC customer reps that are polite and know what they are talking about!) I explained the whole story to him and he replied that even though such a ruling may have been made, no IXC really has done anything to implement interstate Caller-ID nor have any plans been announced. So as a pratical matter, I am out of luck. I also asked him if he could find out if Ameritech uses SS7 for any of their IXC interconnections for the Champaign area. (I already know that the LEC surrounding Champaign, GTE North, is not SS7 capable in this area, so I'm not expecting any Caller-ID information for Intra-LATA calls ouside of Ameritech's service area any time soon.) The rep said he'd try to get a copy of ruling and see if he could dig up any more info. After dealing with my questions we had a fairly good technical discussion that lasted about ten minutes. One of the things that he mentioned was that no DMS-100s could speak SS7. I pushed further and asked him if Northern Telecom didn't support SS7 on any DMS-100s or if it was just Ameritech's DMS-100s that did not support SS7. He said he wan't sure, but he thought NT didn't support SS7 and the DMS-100 at all ... So this leads to the first question: Does the NT DMS-100 (with the proper software of course) support SS7? I find it hard to believe that there is no SS7 capability for the DMS-100 ... can someone prove me wrong? I guess the other questions I have are: How useful is Caller-ID in other parts of the country? Do other folks that have the service get "OUT OF AREA" for 99.5% of their interstate calls, or am I just in the wrong city to get that info? I'd be especially interested to hear how well it works in the Chicago area since Chicago is also served by Ameritech Illinois. Should I dump Caller-ID since I'm getting very little functionality for my $6.50 a month or will things get better? If things will get better, how long should it take before at least some of my friends' out-of-state phone numbers will be lighting up my caller-ID display? Thanks for any info. Paul J. Zawada URL: http://headroom.ncsa.uiuc.edu/zawada Network Engineer EMAIL: zawada@ncsa.uiuc.edu National Center for PHONE: 217 244 4728 Supercomputing Applications AMATEUR RADIO: KB9FMN [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well I can tell you that north of you in the Chicago area of Ameritech's territory, we have been getting very good results on Caller-ID for awhile now. Lots of long distance calls are having their ID shown ... interestingly, even some recent calls from California in the 415 area code were displayed. Of course all this is relevant to *where* most of your calls originate, and maybe I just lucked out but I would say about 90 - 95 percent of my incoming calls now show Caller-ID, or they show that the caller is blocking it, etc. PAT] ------------------------------ From: stans@panix.com (Stan Schwartz) Subject: New Tennex Codes in 516 Date: 17 Jan 1995 22:40:55 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Quick FYI: From the 516-694 exchange (NYNEX), I dialed 1010288 1 908 889 XXXX and the call was completed via AT&T. Also, the 630, 334, and 360 NPA's are all dialable from here. Stan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 07:42:35 -0600 From: mweiss@interaccess.com Subject: 630 Area Code and New Dialing Patterns The new 630 area code is a subject of big debate here in Chicagoland. Chicago Tonight, a local TV show just had a half-hour debate on that very subject. According to an Ameritech spokesman, the intended plan (as of today) is as follows: 1. 630 will be an overlay area code for all of the 312 and 708 area codes; 2. 630 will initially be assigned for new phones (land and mobile) in 708 area; 3. In early 1996, 630 will also be assigned to Chicago (312); 4. In September 1996, ALL of Chicago and suburbs will require eleven digit dialing, even if you are calling the same area code. 5. Area code 708 is already exhausted. No new cell phones will have 708. The representative from the City of Chicago who appeared on the show is against the new code. The City has filed an objection with the Illinois Commerce Commission (the local PUC), and is considering appealing to the FCC. They claim that this confusion is bad for business. They also claim it to be a safety issue. Small children have too many numbers to learn. Either way, it is a pain in the neck. If I am in 708 and order a second phone line, it will possibly be a 630 line. Regardless, if it goes through, I will have to dial eleven digits for all calls in the future. I think this is the first shot in the war to end seven digit dialing nationwide. We probably will see more of this in the future. Mitchell Weiss mweiss@interaccess.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, there is one good thing to be said about having to dial the area code as well as seven digits on all calls. Once it is made mandatory, we will no longer have to dial *eleven* digits; we will be able to just dial ten digits since the '1' will no longer be needed to show that an area code rather than a local exchange sequence is following. What follows will *always* be an area code ... right? We will be able to use '1' rather than '011' for international dialing since the '1' will no longer be needed domestically. So even though we will be dialing more digits, we will on *true* long distance calls be able to dial fewer digits than now. PAT] ------------------------------ From: RANDY@MPA15AB.mv-oc.Unisys.COM Date: 17 JAN 95 16:38 Subject: Cattle Call Saw this in an internal news group: ------- Forwarded message ------- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 1:45 pm CST (19:45:57 UT) From: C Rader A local magazine (I think it was "Twin Cities Business") quoted an item from an investment newsletter saying that some dairy farmers now use pagers to call their cows. They reportedly strap a vibrating pager around the neck of the herd leader cow and call the pager when it's time to return to the barn. The cow is taught to respond to the vibrations. One person here who's family raises cattle asked whether it wouldn't be cheaper to keep a feeding a dog that herds the cattle instead of paying monthly charges and air time. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #41 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa09841; 18 Jan 95 5:23 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19362; Wed, 18 Jan 95 01:10:28 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19355; Wed, 18 Jan 95 01:10:26 CST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 01:10:26 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501180710.AA19355@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #42 TELECOM Digest Tue, 17 Jan 95 23:45:16 CST Volume 15 : Issue 42 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: More CO Codes For Each NPA - Any Telcos Take Advantage? (Carl Moore) Re: Returning Blocked Local Calls to be Discontinued (Robert Schwartz) 800 Numbers/Letters Overseas (Richard Jay Solomon) Re: Where to Get Text of the ECPA? (John A. Thomas) Re: Cross Keys (Carl Moore) Re: NEC Neax 2400 (John Stewart) Business Telephone Sales Expected Salary/Commission Ranges? (Neil W. Giles) Phone Bill Has Wrong Area Code and City (Carl Moore) Help With Number Plan (Robert Smith) Re: What is a T1 Line? (Butch Lcroan) Re: Bellcore Standards Question (Wally Ritchie) Wanted: We Buy and SellL Used Telephone Systems and Parts (David Russell) Economics of the Telecommucations Industry (Victor Prochnik) Re: Is the Pentium Bug Really That Bugging? (Wally Ritchie) FCC PCS Auction Information (Darryl Kipps) Aministrivia: Sendmail Let's Me Down (TELECOM Digest Editor) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 23:03:28 GMT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: More CO Codes For Each NPA - Any Telcos Take Advantage? You mentioned 206-803. But 206 was running short of prefixes before the NNX area codes were available, and it staved off a split for a while by generalizing from NNX to NXX prefixes. As you know, the phone number shortage in 206 is to be relieved by new area code 360, which has now entered permissive mode. What Dave Leibold was asking was what I mentioned (in different words) in the area code history file: With the generalized area codes, what becomes of "no N0X/N1X prefixes unless NNX prefixes are running out"? In other words, all area codes -- not just the ones running short of NNX prefixes -- now have published dialing instructions which can also accommodate N0X/N1X prefixes. ------------------------------ From: r.schwartz18@genie.geis.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 04:09:00 UTC Subject: Re: Returning Blocked Local Calls to be Discontinued in Canada > By June 30, a called party will no longer be able to do this. > In a decision handed down on December 5 [1994], the CRTC ordered Bell > to "implement the disablement of call return on blocked local calls." This is OUTRAGOUS! We finally reap the benefits of peace and tranquillity from heavy breathers thanks to technology and now the government is talking this peace away from us! What is going to deter pranksters from calling now. We have just taken a HUGE step backwards in time. Another first for the Canadian Telecommunications Industry. I think the ministers are getting fed up of walking to the pay phone to call their mistress! > While acknowledging that the CRTC's order was "not unexpected," Mike > Kassner, associate director, Consumer Market Management, said, "It > tilts the balance once again in favour of the calling party and might > cause problems with increased use of Call Trace now that the handling > of minor annoyance calls via Call Return has been taken away." Sure! Why spend $0.50 to deter a prankster when you can spend $5.00 on Call trace and have to go through the hassle of getting a court order so that the law takes action on your behalf ... for a prank call!!!! > All is not lost, however. Call Screen, said Mike, is still an > "effective device" for preventing unwanted calls from the same number. > "Call Screen can be activated to work on the last incoming number even > though the number is blocked," he noted. Sure, another $5.00 a month service charge ... will it ever end!? If anyone knows the e-mail address of the government body responsible for this fiasco, please let me know. Robert Schwartz Ottawa, Ontario. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 23:52:06 -0500 From: rjs@farnsworth.mit.edu (Richard Jay Solomon) Subject: 800 Numbers/Letters Overseas In TELECOM Digest V15 #38: > The European position imposes a lottery where there is more than one > applicant for a specific international freephone number. You can > imagine the land rush this will create among European carriers and > their customers, especially for valuable numbers such as 800 THE CARD, > 800 HOLIDAY, and 800 FLOWERS, or Home Shopping Club's well-ensconced > 800 284-3200. Before the land rush starts, American firms should take a hard look at the telephone dials overseas. Not only are the letter/number combinations not always the same as in North America, but in the U.K., the competing wireless firms don't even have the same set of letter/numbers! And some places have no letters at all, or they have non-Roman letters, as in several Mideast countries. A little due diligence goes a long way. I can remember when AT&T tried to convince us that letters were stupid -- they spent a fortune on advertising "all-number dialing," as if it made any difference. Now they are trying to tell us that letters are valuable. Reminds me of a Dr. Seuss story. Richard Solomon MIT Research Program on Communications Policy ------------------------------ From: jathomas@netcom.com (John A. Thomas) Subject: Re: Where to Get Text of the ECPA? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 20:29:26 GMT Wilson Mohr (mohr@cig.mot.com) wrote: > I have been poking around the FCC's FTP server to no avail so I will > ask: Does anyone know where/how I can get a full text of the ECPA? Try ftp to ftp.eff.org. They might have the text on-line. Or else go to a law library. The ECPA was codified in the statutes dealing with wire interception, 18 U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521, and the statutes dealing with stored electronic communications, 18 U.S.C. Sections 2701-2711. John A. Thomas jathomas@netcom.com N5RZP 214/263-4351 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Now that you mention it, I have a full copy here sent recently to me by someone, and I think I will send it out as a special mailing in the next day or three. It is quite huge, so I may have to just put it in the archives for reference. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 20:52:10 GMT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: Cross Keys What is the meaning of the + in front of the 51 in the Telex line? > Coldra Woods, Chepstow Road, NEWPORT, Gwent, NP6 1JB UK > tel. 01633 413600 > Telex 497557 (from outside the UK, +51 497557) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That plus means 'dial whatever you dial to make an international call, then add what follows.' PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 09:23:19 EST From: STEWART@SALEM.WVNET.EDU Subject: Re: NEC Neax 2400 Organization: West Virginia Network My predessor was able to crash the call accounting and the Maintence terminal with-in a 4 month period prior to his release. They wanted over 8 Gs to fix the call accounting using very old and outdated equiptment. For this reason we found it more cost effective to write our own software. We do off site collection on a Vax VMS. When doing off site accounting there MUST be a short haul modem on each end or the SMDR card will be lost. They are very touchy about spikes,surges, and the like. If you need more info contact me. John Stewart (stewart@salem.wvnet.edu) Salem-Teikyo University (304) 782-5341 ------------------------------ From: nldc31@nosc.mil (Neil W. Giles) Subject: Business Telephone Sales Expected Salary/Commission Ranges? Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 23:13:14 GMT What kind of salary and commission structures can a person entering the Business Telephone Sales industry expect? I am curious about major corporations as well as smaller VAR type reselling positions. For comparison purposes, I am primarily interested in information based on major city locations but I would be interested in hearing about the smaller areas too. Thanks, Neil Giles Neil.Giles@lasernet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 95 14:49:48 EST From: Carl Moore Subject: Phone Bill Has Wrong Area Code and City On the AT&T part of my phone bill, I found a call which I had made from 815-945 prefix on a pay phone at Chenoa, Illinois (along I-55 between Joliet and Bloomington). It showed up with the wrong area code (309, which happens to be next door to the Chenoa exchange) and the wrong city name (Geneseo, apparently served by 309-945). Geneseo is along U.S.6 and I-80, way out toward Rock Island. ------------------------------ From: rmsmith@csc.com (Robert Smith) Subject: Help With Number Plan Date: 14 Jan 1995 14:42:03 -0500 Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation I am documenting a dialed number plan. I am looking for advice on how to present the data to a reader. I know I can show two switches, the trunks between them, all the data under the trunks, etc. Is there another way to show this data that is easy to follow? I figure I will have to do a table and a graphic to catch the entire audience. Recommendations or experiences appreciated. Thanks, bob ------------------------------ From: balcroan@netcom.com (Butch lcroan/.nameBalcroan Lilli) Subject: Re: What is a T1 Line? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 08:28:19 GMT ARGHHH !! I am really getting tired of this BIT-Robbing conversation that Jeffery Rhodes started. I used to work with Jeffery and he certainly is a smart guy, but he is no expert in this area. I would just like to point out that for DATA it is 56k because the 8th bit is robbed every 6th frame to give line staus information so rather than deal with this on async data circuit they just ignore the eight bit completly rather than have to track the status of the transport systems framing for voice. Believe me, all modems use voice; that is to say they use the voice bandwidth to transmit a carrier (or multiple carrier at the same time in the higher speed techniques) that passes thru the network as if it were voice. Therefore the encoding scheme, not the minor bit robbing is what limits the bandwith for noise or quantizing distortiion. That is to say that since the analog waveform is quantized to a level that is represented by number (the eight bits) the problem with Jeffery's statements is that yes indeed a bit is being lost every sixth frame but this bit is the least significant bit. That is to say its weight is that of a " ONE " so an actual 254 might be encoded as a 253 ... but there is more to consider here. The " MU LAW " is not a linear scale it is more of a log function with more steps closer to the lower levels where the ear is more senstive. I really can't believe 2 DB; come on Jeff, 3 db is half power *and also the least amount the ear can detect*. I really doubt that the modems are affected by this as much as Jeffery has stated. I would more believe than something more common such as " ECHO " and several other more common impairments are really alot more important than a occasional bit robbing. There are also several new technologies such as fiber that have introduced timing impairments such as " Jitter " into the equation. I think that the newer modems are more senstive the the phase angle modulation that a SONET based " Fiber Optic " system might introduce. I advise everyone to look into the volumes of information that pours out of the ANSI T1.101 group on this very subject matter. I was on the leading edge of this matter and as such expect alot of flames from people like Jeffery who I worked with in the past. I can only say please feel free to flame but remember it wouldn't hurt to checkout T1.101. We all can learn how much of a poorly planned product SONET was and how we end users were sold a illusion with SONET and FIBER! ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Bellcore Standards Question Date: 18 Jan 1995 05:35:04 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew) writes: > No more than seven zeros in a row are permitted, or an automatic on > insertion occurs to prevent the demodulator from losing lock on the > incoming bit stream. This can result of one LSB resoultion on a > maximal signal. Since low levels contain a lot of ones, there is no > loss of resolution on small signals due to forced ones. Actually, the All Zero Code word is prohibited in D4. This is done by replacing Bit 7 (Number 1 - 8 sign - lsb) with a 1 when an all zero code word would otherwise be transmitted. This is not the lsb but the second least significant bit. > Also, if you are using older D4 non ESF (extended superframe) equipment. > A bit will be robbed every 6th frame for signalling. The robbed bits > alternate between the A bit and B bit. Even with ESF, a bit will be robbed every 6th frame for channels that use Robbed Bit Signalling, i.e. other than clear channels or DDS channels. ESF extends the AB signalling to ABCD. ESF by itself does not eliminate the robbed bit signalling. What ESF does is to enable clear channel e.g. 23B+D ISDN PRI by removing the coding restriction on the all zero octet. Just picking nits to keep the record straight. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ From: itelecom@bilbo.pic.net (David M. Russell) Subject: Wanted: We Buy and Sell Used Telephone Systems and Parts Date: 17 Jan 1995 19:20:24 GMT Organization: Integrity Telecommunications We buy and sell used telephone systems and parts. Please fax, smail or email your used and surplus inventories. David M. Russell Integrity Telecommunications "The Name Says IT All" 2970 Blystone Lane, Ste. 102 Dallas, TX 75220-1515 Voice 214-357-7484 Fax 214-357-7485 ------------------------------ From: victorp@omega.lncc.br (Victor Prochnik) Subject: Economics of the Telecommunications Industry Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 18:55:43 -0300 I am working on the economics of telecommunication industry. My next research will be on the demand of Brazilian large enterprises for global telecom services. I would be pleased to discuss this and other subjects. Can you share your insight with me? VICTOR PROCHNIK INDUSTRIAL ECONOMICS INSTITUTE FEDERAL UNIVERSITY OF RIO DE JANEIRO, BRASIL E-MAIL: VICTORP@OMEGA.LNCC.BR ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: Is the Pentium Bug Really That Bugging? Date: 18 Jan 1995 06:05:15 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , Anthony D'Auria writes: > Hi! My name is Anthony D'Auria and I own a P90 super loaded desktop. I > use it practically every day for the net and business. I haven't > experienced any trouble with the floating point calculations (not that > I use them). I think that IBM is making a big deal of a little thing. It's not a little thing that spreadsheets produce wrong results. IBM's concerns reflect the major concerns of its corporate clients many of whom depend on their machines for mission critical applications. Neither is it a small thing for CAD programs, Signal Processing, or any other programs that depend on heavy floating point calculations. Customers with lots of machines that use floating point are going to see real problems. For these customers the Pentium is Russian roulette with only a few chambers in the gun. If you don't use speadsheets, or CAD, or other floating point programs, no big deal. If you're a single user user with a single machine and you do use speadsheets and/or CAD programs, you too are playing russian roulette. The probabilites are small, but they are a threat if you care what your results are. > People with Pentiums start panicking, thinking that their system is > all messed up. For an average user, it doesn't seem to fearsome, but > if you have some heavy duty stuff to do, it can really do some damage. > Question: Does this floating point calculation bug affect system > performance? Is that why some Pentiums bottleneck? What and where > should a person contact to get the messed up chip replaced? Is it > actually worth it? > If you have any ideas, respond: dauriaa@voyager.bxscience.edu. I personally think that the outrage felt by users is due to three factors. First, Intel kept information of the flaw to itself for a relatively long time. Second, Intel downplayed the potential seriousness of the problem. Third, Intel has spent tens of millions of dollars on the Intel Inside ad compaign with the effect of brainwashing (like all advertising) masses of users to buy Pentium. Some of these users might have better off putting their money in faster video cards. Clearly, a flawed Pentium is much worse the alternatives. Intel must now make these people whole again. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ Date: 18 Jan 95 02:01:38 EST From: Darryl Kipps <72623.456@compuserve.com> Subject: FCC PCS Auction Info Good day to all, I've just come from ftp fcc.gov to see how the PCS auctions are going and have some questions. 1. I see there are both Broad and Narrow bands. What's the difference? 2. Narrowband has both Nationwide and Regional while Broadband seems to be entirely regional (or by market) -- Why the distinction and how are the regions (markets) defined? If anyone could shed some light here would be appreciated, or just point me in the right direction if the answers are available elsewhere. Thanks, Darryl Kipps ------------------------------ From: TELECOM Digest Editor Subject: Administrivia: Sendmail Lets Me Down ... Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 00:15:00 CST On Tuesday some of you got two or three copies of issues 32 through 34. Others of you received only one copy. Hopefully everyone got at least one copy of each and a copy of issue 35. If you did not get one of these, let me know so it can be replaced. What happened was those three issues (32, 33, 34) had been handed over to sendmail for processing to the mailing list. All of a sudden for reasons unknown to me, this machine (delta.eecs.nwu.edu) belched and shut down for about five minutes. During that time I was locked up here unable to get any response. When I got back online, I noticed that those three issues had stopped moving, but I guessed they would restart when sendmail got around to it again. In the meantime, issue 35 was finished and sent to the mailq. Issue 35 seems to be going okay, but mailer-daemons began flooding in ... those three issues had started up again, but sendmail was quite confused. Can't find programs! (my own little group of hacks done to sendmail for use with very large mailing lists like this one so I can have as many invocations of sendmail going at one time as desired with no ill-effects or slow- downs for other users. I frequently have six or seven invocations of sendmail going at one time against my mailing list. Can't locate mailing list! I don't leave it out under its most obvious names where hackers who like to sneak in the back door with commands like VRFY and EXPD can snoop into it. Aside from the fact that I think the admin here disabled VRFY and EXPD why take chances? Part of my 'send-telecom' does 'mv bogus.name real.name' in the process of getting it out for use in mailing. Trouble is I had it out when delta went down and when it restarted obviously the mailing list(s) were not where sendmail expected to find them. So then it wrote all over the one that was out and ruined it. I had to use the backup copy it created the day before, and reinstall all the adds and deletes from the several hours prior. Unknown Host! Oh Lord, were the name servers hosed Tuesday. Were they? WERE THEY? About 80 percent of or the mailing came back due to unknown host. A few sites hung a long time before sendmail decided they had not accepted its delivery. Of course, that does not really mean the mail Timed out during did not get delivered, just that sendmail is user open with .. saying it didn't. So, a third time around and that time, the mail seemed to stick. Maybe you got those issues once, maybe you got them three times, or maybe not at all ... ... But I just about lost control when 400 -- yes, *four hundred* mailer daemons arrived all in the space of about fifteen minutes. You tell me what needs to be replaced/retransmitted between issues 31 and 42, Tuesday morning through Wednesday morning. And for those of you who wrote to tell me you got three copies of it and to stop already, all I can say is something lewd, crude and rude. But I won't say it, I'll just think it. Have a nice Wednesday! PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #42 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa15322; 18 Jan 95 15:46 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA26024; Wed, 18 Jan 95 09:35:14 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA26016; Wed, 18 Jan 95 09:35:11 CST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 09:35:11 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501181535.AA26016@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #43 TELECOM Digest Wed, 18 Jan 95 09:35:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 43 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: FCC PCS Auction Information (Bob Keller) "Dial & Save" Long Distance Service (Bibb Cain) Re: Bellcore Standards Question (Chip Sharp) McCaw/NACN Call Delivery Toll Charges (Doug Reuben) Re: ANI Information in Realtime (Doug Reuben) Dial Modifiers and International Callback Service? (Daniel Winkowski) Small Business PBX/Fax Back Server Needed (Jon Zeeff) Re: Call Waiting and Caller-ID Question (Navneet Patel) Looking For a CHILL Compiler (Andreas Junklewitz) Freephone Forum vs. ITU Question (Judith Oppenheimer) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 09:14:53 EST From: Bob Keller Subject: Re: FCC PCS Auction Information In TELECOM Digest V15, #42, Darryl Kipps <72623.456@compuserve.com> asks: > I've just come from ftp fcc.gov to see how the PCS auctions > are going and have some questions. > 1. I see there are both Broad and Narrow bands. What's the > difference? > 2. Narrowband has both Nationwide and Regional while Broadband > seems to be entirely regional (or by market) -- Why the > distinction and how are the regions (markets) defined? The two major distinctions between narrowband and broadband PCS are (1) the amount of spectrum allocated to each, and (2) the particular frequency band allocated to each. Narrowband PCS resides in the 900 MHz band and is constituted of 26 different channels ranging from as little as 50 kHz unpaired channels to as much as two 50 kHz channel pairs. Broadband PCS resides in the 2 GHz band (actually, fixed microwave users reside there now and will have to be moved by the PCS licensees -- but that's a whole other story) and is constituted of either a 30 MHz allocation per license or a 10 MHz allocation per license. You can think of Narrowband PCS as the next, more advanced, generation of paging services, and Broadband PCS as the next generation of cellular service. I say that knowing that I may get flamed (because it is an inaccurate, oversimplification), but it is nonetheless a good way for the uninitiated to get his or her brain around the concepts. Depending on the particular frequency block, licenses are awarded for different geographic areas: Nationwide, Regional, MTA, and BTA. MTAs and BTAs are market areas devised by the Commission based on Rand McNally Marjor Trading Areas and Basic Trading Areas. A BTA is made up of a group of counties. There are 493 BTAs which, together, include all of the United States and its territories. MTAs are collections of BTAs and are much, much larger. There are 51 MTAs covering the entire country. Finally, there are six narrowaband PCS regions, each region being a collection of MTAs. If you want to get more detail on the geographic definition of each PCS market area, I recommend to you a file in my anonymous ftp directory: ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/rjk/pcs_mkts.txt.Z The compressed archive includes a very large text file containing a data compilation, made available on a shareware-like basis, providing a county-by-county breakout (with 1990 and 1980 population data) for each PCS Region, MTA, and BTA, as well as each cellular MSA/RSA. If the shareware fee is paid, I send out a disk that includes the same data in *.dbf, *.xls, and *.csv format so it can be imported into your favorite database or spreadsheet program and sorted, number-crunched, manipulated, etc. This data allows one to see precisely which areas are included in each PCS and/or cellular market as well as to perform calculations to determine the extent of overlap between cellular and PCS markets. The table below shows the frequencies allocated for Narroband PCS channels 1 through 26 and Broadband PCS Blocks A through F, as well as the geographic basis on which each license will be awareded. The channels marked with an asterisk are those for which special credits are awareded to "designated entities" in any auction for the licenses. Designated entities are small businesses, women or minority owned businesses, and rural telephne companies. The special benefits availalbe to one or more of these, depending on the particular license, may include bidding credits (in effect, a discount off the amount of the winning bid), favorable installment payment provisions, and (in the case of the rural telephone companies) the right to subdivide geographic markets. Chnls Frequencies (MHz) Geographic Area ----- ----------------- --------------- NB-01 940.00-940.05/901.00-901.05 Nationwide NB-02 940.05-940.10/901.05-901.10 Nationwide NB-03 940.10-940.15/901.10-901.15 Nationwide NB-04 940.15-940.20/901.15-901.20 Nationwide NB-05* 940.20-940.25/901.20-901.25 MHz Nationwide NB-06 930.40-930.45/901.7500-901.7625 Nationwide NB-07 930.45-930.50/901.7625-901.7750 Nationwide NB-08* 930.50-930.55/901.7750-901.7875 Nationwide NB-09 940.75-940.80 Nationwide NB-10 940.80-940.85 Nationwide NB-11* 940.85-940.90 MHz Nationwide NB-12 940.25-940.30/901.25-901.30 Regional NB-13* 940.30-940.35/901.30-901.35 MHz Regional NB-14 930.55-930.60/901.7875-901.8000 Regional NB-15 930.60-930.65/901.8000-901.8125 Regional NB-16 930.65-930.70/901.8125-901.8250 Regional NB-17* 930.70-930.75/901.8250-901.8375 MTA NB-18 940.35-940.40/901.35-901.40 MTA NB-19* 940.40-940.45/901.40-901.45 MTA NB-20 930.75-930.80/901.8375-901.8500 MTA NB-21 930.80-930.85/901.8500-901.8625 MTA NB-22* 930.85-930.90/901.8625-901.8750 MTA NB-23 940.90-940.95 MTA NB-24* 940.95-941.00 MTA NB-25 930.90-930.95/901.8750-901.8875 BTA NB-26* 930.95-931.00/901.8875-901.9000 BTA BB- A 1850-1865/1930-1945 MTA BB- B 1870-1885/1950-1965 MTA BB- C* 1895-1910/1975-1990 BTA BB- D 1865-1870/1945-1950 BTA BB- E 1885-1890/1965-1970 BTA BB- F* 1890-1895/1970-1975 BTA The Commission has already completed auctions for the Nationwide and Regional Narrowband PCS channels. Licensing of the Nationwide winners is already underway, and the regional licenses will be issued shortly. The acution for the MTA-based Broadband PCS licenses (Blocks A and B) is currently underway, with the auction for Block C scheduled to begin in April (or 30 days after conclusion of the current auction). Auctions for the remaining Broadband blocks and for the MTA and BTA Narrowband channels have not yet been scheduled. Bob Keller (KY3R) Email: rjk@telcomlaw.com Law Office of Robert J. Keller, P.C. Telephone: 301.229.5208 Federal Telecommunications Law Facsimile: 301.229.6875 ------------------------------ From: cain@rigel.Harris-ATD.com (Bibb Cain) Subject: "Dial & Save" Long Distance Service Date: 18 Jan 1995 13:50:51 GMT Organization: Advanced Technology Dept, Harris Corp, Melbourne, FL I received a letter offering a long distance service from a company called "Dial & Save." This offered savings relative to special plans from ATT, MCI, and Sprint by simply dialing their special access code before the area code. The billing shows up on your regular monthly bill. I called their 800 number (1-800-787-3333) and their rates for some calls seem good. Are they legit and has anyone had experience with them? Any problems? I was thinking of testing it bytrying their service for a couple of calls and seeing what shows up on the monthly bill. Bibb Cain ARPA : cain@rigel.ess.harris.com Harris Corporation AT&T : (407) 727-5445 PO Box 37, MS 5W/1912 FAX : (407) 729-3363 Melbourne, FL 32902 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 09:41:25 EST From: hhs@teleoscom.com (Chip Sharp) Subject: Re: Bellcore Standards Question Sorry, but I lost the original message so no quotes here. From the ANSI side of the house, T1.403 (DS1 Standard) does not really define an IDLE code. ANS T1.408 (PRI Layer 1 Standard) defines the Idle code in a B-channel or H-channel as a "...pattern including at least 3 binary ones in an octet..." that must be transmitted "...on every time slot that is not assigned to a channel (e.g., time slots awaiting channel assignment on a per-call basis, residual slots on an interface that is not fully provisioned, etc.)..." (from Section 6.5 of ANS T1.408-1990). Just for further information, the idle pattern for the D-channel is HDLC flags, NOT all 1's as in the BRI. Note that this means that the B/H-channel idle code from the network could be the HDLC flag pattern, since it satisfies the requirements. That is why detection of HDLC flags on a PRI channel does not necessarily mean that the channel is connected. Other facts about T1: If you transmit inverted HDLC in every channel across a T1 span using Super Frame you have a 75% chance of emulating Yellow Alarm when transmitting flags. If the HDLC is aligned with the frame structure, the chance goes to 100%. Hascall H. ("Chip") Sharp Teleos Communications, Inc. Sr. Systems Engineer 2 Meridian Road Eatontown, NJ 07724 USA voice: +1 908 544 6424 fax: +1 908 544 9890 email: hhs@teleoscom.com ------------------------------ From: dreuben@netcom.com (CID Tech/INSG) Subject: McCaw/NACN Call Delivery Toll Charges Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 00:59:04 PST Recently, jcr@creator.nwest.mccaw.com (Jeffrey Rhodes) wrote: > In some Cellular One markets, the 99 cent per minute roamer air time > includes all necessary long distance charges (10 to 20 cents per > minute) for automatic call delivery via the NACN. > Unfortunately, this practise will have to change when markets are > converted to Equal Access to support the McCaw-AT&T merger. McCaw is > not permitted to be a long distance reseller, so Cellular One > subscribers must pick an Equal Access long distance carrier. ACD long > distance charges will be set by the PICked Equal Access carrier. Hmmmm ... How will this affect the Cell One/NY (00025) market where sections of the Connecticut (00119) market and ComCast/NJ market are considered "home" rates, even for toll calls? Currently, CO/NY customers can roam into sections of the CT or southern NJ systems and pay only "local" charges when calling a number from these areas. They are also not billed toll charges for the automatic call delivery toll component. Will any of this change as a result of the AT&T acquisition? Also, will redirects to voicemail (eg, if, when roaming, you don't answer your phone and a call goes back to voicemail) be affected in any way? They don't work in many NACN markets, but will voicemail redirects continue where they are currently offered? Doug Reuben dreuben@netcom.com/dreuben@interpage.net (203) 499 - 5221 CID Technologies*Interpage(TM) E-Mail/Internet Paging and Fax Services ------------------------------ From: dreuben@netcom.com (CID Tech/INSG) Subject: Re: ANI Information in Realtime Organization: Interpage E-Mail/Telnet Gateway to Fax, Alpha and Numeric Pagers Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 10:26:19 GMT Pat wrote: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Even though ANI and Caller-ID are two > separate things, the end result -- the number produced for your review -- > is as often as not the same. With this in mind, at least one carrier > providing 800 service *does* display in realtime the ANI of the calling > party via the Caller-ID display unit. I've forgotten which company it > is ... someone remind me. I know for sure that Cable & Wireless is passing ANI (not CID) to many areas, and is doing so via Caller ID. This is a really nice feature, yet they panic when you talk to them about it, and deny it exists, etc. It doesn't work from everywhere. For example, I was in LA a while back, and it never worked from area code 909, but it worked fine from 213, 818, 310, and 714. (No, there is no Caller ID in CA, I called to Boston and had my computer page the number back to me on my pager ... awful hack; it would be very nice if there were Caller ID already in CA!) It also doesn't work to everywhere: I made a call from a payphone in Concord, CA recently. I called to Boston, and it ID'ed fine, yet calling from the same payphone to the saem C&W 800 number to a number in Connecticut, I got "Out of Area". This is pretty consistent. It seems to vary from local telco to local telco, and from LATA (or area code?) to LATA. Finally, it also isn't reliable: I can call from Vancouver, BC, and usually get the ID, but about 30% of the time it just gets "Out of Area". Some areas work more reliably than others, such as Vermont to Boston, yet others, such as NYC to Boston are very unreliable. > Maybe what AT&T is trying to tell you is that if you get Caller-ID > from NYNEX you'll get the information you are seeking. Maybe ... I > don't know. Maybe they are trying to say if you get a Caller-ID > display unit from someone, they (AT&T) will be in a position to send > you the information. Any other guesses on this, anyone? PAT] Hmmm ... I've NEVER received Caller ID info on ANY AT&T call, so unless they are doing something different with their 800 service I doubt it. I know the minute you mention Caller ID/ANI to Cable & Wireless, they say "Oh, call your local telephone company about that, we don't offer that." (Which is foolish -- it's an excellent selling point. If I worked for C&W I'd be actively trying to overcome whatever technical difficulties which are preventing universal ANI->CID display and then really go out and market the service!) Doug Reuben dreuben@netcom.com/dreuben@interpage.net (203) 499 - 5221 CID Technologies*Interpage(TM) E-Mail/Internet Paging and Fax Services ------------------------------ From: winkowsk@stc.nato.int (Daniel Winkowski) Subject: Dial Modifiers and International Callback Service? Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 11:09:00 GMT Problems: I subscribe to an international callback service to get lower rates from the US to Europe. I need to fax and data connect to US numbers vai my modem. I dial a US number, let it ring once, hang up, get called back and upon answering have a US dial tone. I would like to automate this process using dialing modifiers for both faxing and modem connections. If I do the callback part manually including picking up the phone and then initiating the modem or fax dial command I often time out on the callback connection (while the fax is being prepared) since dailtone inactivity of ~20 seconds causes my callback connection to terminate. My timeout problem is with the callback service (if no activity takes place once dial tone is established after ~20 seconds it disconnects so - "Changing the S-Register S7" or other modem characteristics will not have any affect. I thought that some combination of "," "!", and "W" as part of the dialing sequence might give me what I need but I have no experience with these. I am not sure what "!" does - does it toggle the hang up button or does it disconnect? I need to hang up after signaling (one ring) for the US callback service to call me. I then need to answer the phone (I can due this manually if need be), and then dial the true number. If "!" hangs up and then reconnects to a dial tone I will not be called back (reciever is off the hook). How do I hang up - can I issue a +++ATH in the dial string? Example ATDT00-1-123-456-7890, ! W 1-555-555-5555 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^Dial US phone number |Dial callback | | | Wait for dial tone (manually answer) | | Hang up (is this true?) |Wait for X seconds to ring once Does any one have experience with this? Please reply via mail. Thanks. Configuration: Software: Quick Link II Fax for DOS Hardware: Viva Data/Fax Modem (computer peripherals) Daniel Winkowski Voice: +31 70 314 2255 SHAPE Technical Center Fax: +31 70 314 2111 P.O. Box 174 winkowsk@stc.nato.int 2501 CD The Hague When all else fails: 192.41.140.225 The Netherlands 100141.567@compuserve.com (seldom read) ------------------------------ From: jon@server.branch.com (Jon Zeeff) Subject: Small Business PBX/Fax Back Server Needed Date: 18 Jan 1995 09:05:07 -0500 Organization: Branch Information Services, Ann Arbor, MI, USA I'm looking for a PBX/Fax back/voice mail system that would do the following: Connect to approx 4 POTS lines for incoming calls and have various facilities when you call in, for example: press 1 for a recording discussing our services press 2 to leave a message press 3 to enter your fax number for a faxback press 4 to ring someone's extension press 5 for a receptionist The more flexible and programmable, the better. Any ideas where to look and what I might have to pay? Commercial Internet Advertising, Marketing and Consulting Jon Zeeff Branch Information Services jon@gw.branch.com (313) 741-4442 http://branch.com/ gopher branch.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 08:11:57 EST From: nap@bss.com (Navneet Patel) Subject: Re: Call Waiting and Caller-ID Question keith.knipschild@asb.com writes: > I posted a message last week concering CALL-WAITING's CALLER ID, But > got no responces ... so here I go again: > I just my the lastest copy of the "HELLO DIRECT" Catalog and on page 24 > they adverise a Northern Telecom phone model# " PowerTouch 225 " > The ad states : CALLER ID, CALL WAITING MODULE > Comming in mid-1995, You'll see who's > on a CALL WAITING call, without inter- > rupting the call you're already on ... > I never heard of any telcos offering this. The only way to achive this > was by having an ISDN line. > Also, they mention "ADSI" ???? > The ad states: Looking ahead to the future > Coming in late-1995, is ADSI > It will help you do your banking, > pay bills, and such - by phone... BellSouth (Southern Bell) provides this service in Atlanta and Savannah area NOW. Customer can see telephone number (Caller ID) or name and number (Caller Id Deluxe) of a calling party or that of a call waiting (Call Waiting Deluxe). If you subscribe Caller Id Deluxe and Call Waiting Deluxe service, you will be able to see number and name of calling party and waiting party. ADSI: Analog Display Services Interface. Customer needs to have equipment which supports ADSI interface (like NT phone describe above) and just the POTS line (no ISDN necessary). Deployment of this service in Alabama and Tennessee is expected during 1995. Navneet Patel Science & Technology BellSouth Telecommunications nap@bss.com (404) 332-2159 ------------------------------ From: ajdsv@ind.rwth-aachen.de (Andreas Junklewitz (DA Martin)) Subject: Looking For a CHILL Compiler Date: 18 Jan 1995 13:12:18 GMT Organization: RWTH Aachen Reply-To: ajdsv@ind.rwth-aachen.de I am looking desperately for a CHILL precompiler or compiler running under any UNIX, LINUX, OS/2 or DOS. I know very slow and big compilers for MVS or VMS, but this isn't what I am looking for. I would appreciate any clues. Please respond by email. I will post a summary. Thank you in advance. With best regards, Andreas Junklewitz, Phone: ++49-241-806984, Telefax: ++49-241-8888186 Institute for Communication Systems and Data Processing RWTH-Aachen (University of Technology) Muffeter Weg 3, 52072 Aachen, Germany E-Mail: ajdsv@ind.rwth-aachen.de or junklewitz@rwth-aachen.de ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 08:42:37 -0500 Subject: Freephone Forum vs. ITU Question Someone (sorry don't remember who) had posted: > This is the first I've heard of the "Freephone Forum." I always > thought call processing recommendations were issued by the International > Telecommunications Union (ITU). As explained to me, call processing recommendations are still done by the ITU but many perceive the ITU as too slow so other agreements are made in other forums and implemented on "bilateral agreement" basis. The Freephone Forum is one of them. The fourm is made up of (mostly) marketing people from all the service providers who provide toll free in their countries. They discuss freephone and how to get more people to use it, and share success stories etc. They also, (like most marketing groups) seem to "party" at these once a year things. One of the things they did develop is "Plus Freephone". That is a bilateral agreement that if you make an international call to an other countries 800 number, (eg if you dial from London, 00 (their international calling access) followed by 1 (the US country code), followed by 800 FLOWERS) ) the call will complete to 1-800-flowers in the US. Also the originating party (London) will suppress the billing to the caller and create a billing record to charge to 1-800-flowers. If this agreement is in place between two countries 800 calls are possible to the US and calling freephone numbers in other countries is possible. If this agreement is not in place, then then (in this case, London) would recognize 1 as USA and reject the call when it saw 800 because this is not a valid NPA code. (Remember, per the ITU all switches must screen on 4 digits before routing.) 1-800 is invalid. 1-405 would route to maybe miami and 1-212 would route to NY. 1-213 (los angeles) would probably route to NY or Maine. The people who attend the forum are often the marketing manager or service manager for the 800 (or freephone service) in their country. I will address the phone pad question shortly. (A good question - the answer may surprise you.) But a question asked on another list raised a good point. Because the International Freephone numbers, and domestic freephone numbers, will *co-exist* in the U.S., the U.S. Users Group has valid concerns that there will be confusion among U.S. consumers. More to come. J. Oppenheimer, Producer@Pipeline.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #43 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa20702; 19 Jan 95 2:51 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA14542; Wed, 18 Jan 95 22:23:28 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA14534; Wed, 18 Jan 95 22:23:26 CST Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 22:23:26 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501190423.AA14534@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #44 TELECOM Digest Wed, 18 Jan 95 22:23:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 44 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! (Mark Brader) Re: BC Tel, SaskTel, Internet (Elliot Schwartz) Re: Is the Pentium Bug Really That Bugging? (Andrew Laurence) Re: Long Distance Caller ID (Glen L. Roberts) Re: "Dial & Save" Long Distance Service (Judith Oppenheimer) Re: Question on Call-Back Operators (Eric Tholome) Re: GSM Information Wanted (Eric Tholome) Re: Sonet SDH DCC Information Wanted (Daniel R. Oelke) Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? (Michael Henry) Re: Planning to Purchase a Voice Mail System (John Lundgren) Re: New Alert - 911 Access (Andrew Laurence) Re: Small Business PBX/Fax Back Server Needed (Jon Zeeff) Re: Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Just Names (Ben Carter) Re: Where to Find Nice-Looking Phones? (ophidian59@aol.com) Re: Wanted: Info on Fax/Modem Hookup For Motorola Lazer Cell (J Lundgren) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) Subject: Re: Help ... Ancient Party Lines Must Die! Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 00:11:12 GMT Raymond@zed.ca writes: > Canada has 26 - 27 million people living mainly within 200 miles of > the 49th latitude. .... Make that within 200 miles of the border with the contiguous US states. That border is the 49th parallel where Raymond lives, but in the east it's a good deal farther south. ObTelecom: Two or three years ago, a large number of payphones around here (Toronto) were replaced with the new Millennium model, which has an LED display of the number being dialed, and accepts credit cards (in a swiper) and $1 coins as well as the smaller denominations. They were introduced rapidaly enough that I thought it must mean that all pay phones were being changed to this model, but that hasn't happened. Anyone know what Bell's plans are for the older payphones? Mark Brader "It is considered a sign of great {winnitude} msb@sq.com when your Obs are more interesting than other SoftQuad Inc., Toronto people's whole postings." -- Eric Raymond This article is in the public domain. ------------------------------ From: elliot@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Elliot Schwartz) Subject: Re: BC Tel, SaskTel, Internet Date: 19 Jan 1995 01:21:19 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology In article , Sarah Holland <70620.1425@ compuserve.com> wrote: > Living as I do in a more remote area of British Columbia, where ALL > Internet access is long-distance, I find this most frustrating. I plan > to call BC Tel about this -- any bets as to how far I get? Probably not very far -- why should BCTel do something which won't be profitable for them? Unlike Saskatchewan, most of the high density areas in BC (Vancouver, Victoria, etc.) are already saturated with Internet Service Providers. Furthermore, SaskTel has just taken over responsibility for the Province's regional network, whereas BC*Net operates seperately from BCTel. elliot (a displaced Canadian) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:12:15 -0800 From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: Is the Pentium Bug Really That Bugging? > Anthony D'Auria writes: >> Question: Does this floating point calculation bug affect system >> performance? Is that why some Pentiums bottleneck? What and where >> should a person contact to get the messed up chip replaced? Is it >> actually worth it? Whoops! What I meant to say, but somehow my news-posting software "ate" it, was: The Pentium bug affects only floating-point calculations, not overall system performance. Whether you NEED to have it replaced depends on what type of work you do. Spreadsheets and mathematical modeling, and to a lesser extent CAD and design work, depend on the floating-point processor. Network servers, word processing and databases tend NOT to use floating-point math, so the Pentium bug doesn't affect these applications. IMHO, part of the implied warranty for any microprocessor with a floating-point unit is that it should produce correct calculations each and every time. For that reason, I would have the chip replaced if I owned a Pentium. Intel should be running ads in major trade publications in the next couple of months, explaining the chip replacement procedure. If you're comfortable opening the case, you should be able to replace it yourself in seconds. If not, there will be service stations where you can take your machine and have the chip swapped out, hopefully while you wait. Good luck! Andrew Laurence, CNA -->laurence@netcom.com<-- Oakland, California, USA Novell Certified NetWare Administrator Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) Phone: (510) 547-6647 Fax: (510) 547-8002 Pager: (510) 308-1903 ------------------------------ From: fd@wwa.com (Glen L. Roberts) Subject: Re: Long Distance Caller ID Date: 18 Jan 1995 15:23:46 GMT Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicago Area Internet 312-282-8605 Paul J Zawada (zawada@ncsa.uiuc.edu) wrote: > I've had a couple of interesting conversations with the folks at > Ameritech regarading the delivery of interstate Caller-ID information. > I have a question or two regarding the availablity of the above service, > so let me summarize and pose a question or two to the readers of TELECOM > Digest. > results on Caller-ID for awhile now. Lots of long distance calls are having > their ID shown ... interestingly, even some recent calls from California > in the 415 area code were displayed. Of course all this is relevant to > *where* most of your calls originate, and maybe I just lucked out but I > would say about 90 - 95 percent of my incoming calls now show Caller-ID, > or they show that the caller is blocking it, etc. PAT] It is all relevant to what long distance carrier processes your call. The local switch will pass the Caller-ID to you, if it gets it with the call. Wiltel is the only long distance company that has so far been identified as providing Caller-ID from most places. So, if someone uses Wiltel Long Distance, you'll get their number. Glen L. Roberts, Editor, Full Disclosure Host Full Disclosure Live (WWCR 5,065 khz - Sundays 7pm central) email postal address to fd@wwa.com for catalog on privacy & surveillance. Does 10555-1-708-356-9646 give you an "ANI" readback? With name? Remember, fd _IS FOR_ Full Disclosure! [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, your number read back the number and name listed for the phone I called you from. Others should try it out, it is sort of fun. Then when I called you back with *67, your recording had some comments on that also. Then when I called back from a number which I knew would be 'out of area' you had nothing to say at all. PAT] ------------------------------ From: producer@pipeline.com (Judith Oppenheimer) Subject: Re: "Dial & Save" Long Distance Service Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:26:44 -0500 Organization: Interactive CallBrand(TM) If you decide to test them, can you post your findings? I've seen their pitch too, wouldn't mind finding out of they're legit. J. Oppenheimer, Producer@Pipeline.com ------------------------------ From: tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) Subject: Re: Question on Call-Back Operators Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 22:24:14 +0200 Organization: Private account Pat, You wrote: > [...] The other thing to watch out for where callback systems are > concerned are the *huge* number of misdialed calls (and/or telemarketer > calls) to your 'callback number' which result in a call being made to > you at all hours of the day and night (relative to your time of day) > resulting in many cases in admin charges levied to your account for > calls you did not make, to say nothing of the inconvenience of > answering the phone at three in the morning your time to be greeted > with callback dialtone you don't want merely because some fool in the > USA accidentally dialed your callback number and let it ring a couple > times before deciding he dialed in error. I just wanted to point out that this is not always the case: I've been using a callback service for all my personal international calls for the past six months and I've never had any bogus call, for a good reason: to get my callback dialtone, I dial a common number; then I have to enter a six digit pin which tells my operator to call me (not somebody else) back. I guess there is enough redundancy in the six digit pin so that the probability of being called in error is very low. Of course, I could see a drawback to this solution: if I want to store this number in my phone, I need a phone which memory can hold 19 figures and several pauses instead of 13. Well, that is a problem, but that's the only one I can think about. Personally, I've only stored the access number, and I have to dial the pin myself. Eric Tholome 23, avenue du Centre tholome@dialup.francenet.fr 78180 Montigny le Bretonneux phone: +33 1 30 48 06 47 France fax: same number, call first! [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Another problem you did not mention is the cost of your call to the callback center. That call has to supervise also, you see, and that costs you some amount of money. Add that to whatever you pay for the callback part of the connection and let me know how much less expensive it *really* is. Part of the gimmick that makes callback services so inexpensive is that you usually do not have to pay for a call to the USA. You dial your number and hang up without it answering; thus no charge for that part of the call. Why do you think AT&T was so out of joint on this for quite awhile? Hey, if people think they can pay for a supervised call to the USA (and enter a password, eliminating random ringbacks) and still get by cheaper than via straight calling through their PTT, whoever it is, then let me know ... I may start a callback service of my own. I have objected to it thus far because I don't want automated callbacks with all the trouble those have, and I cannot pencil in a bottom line I could live with if I offered a supervised (both senses of the word, telco charge for inbound call to set it up and a clerk to oversee it) system. Maybe if someone really cuts a deal with AT&T -- a very good deal -- they will be able to accept inbound collect/800 from the distant PTT, establish a call- back to the distant country and make an outgoing USA call ... and still make money at it while being competitive. I could not figure out how. PAT] ------------------------------ From: tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) Subject: Re: GSM Information Wanted Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 22:24:11 +0200 In article , v.erwig@stud.tue.nl (Vincent Erwig) wrote: > Can anybody give me some information on where and how I can find > information about GSM? I'm interested in the development of the GSM > network, and the specific features that GSM / GSM telephone has, what > new technologies have been used, and the advantages / disadvantages > compared to other cellular phone systems. > I need this information for a study project. I'm not sure which level of detail you need, but I would suggest the French book (written in English) from Michel Mouly and Marie-Bernadette Pautet. It is published by the authors themselves (phone: +33 1 69 31 03 18/fax: +33 1 69 31 03 38). It is already rather detailed and quite expensive (get your Library to buy it!). There is also a shorter version of this book (probably the ideal for you) which is 160 page long and also published by the authors (it is called "An introduction to GSM"). I think this version was done especially for Nortel Matra Cellular (a joint venture from Northern Telecom and Matra Communication which manufactures GSM systems) since it has their name on it. I'm not sure whether you can get it or not. Give it a try! Eric Tholome 23, avenue du Centre tholome@dialup.francenet.fr 78180 Montigny le Bretonneux phone: +33 1 30 48 06 47 France fax: same number, call first! ------------------------------ From: droelke@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com (Daniel R. Oelke) Subject: Re: Sonet SDH DCC Information Wanted Date: 18 Jan 1995 19:59:20 GMT Organization: Alcatel Network Systems Inc. Reply-To: droelke@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com In article 9@eecs.nwu.edu, news@zurich.ibm.com writes: > In Sonet/SDH multiplexer and section overhead, there are the D1..D12 > bytes, reserved for "network management and supervision". Can anyone > shed some light on the data transmission protocol which governs these > DCC channels? Is this (already?) standardized? If so which standard? Both the Line and Section overhead data bytes -- or the DCC channels are used with an OSI 7-layer stack. There are Bellcore and ISO standards galore to define this. Of course, this isn't to say that all vendors use a 7-layer OSI stack across these channels ... wouldn't like to make life simple you know. :-) There is also the question of the 7-layer stack implementation, and all of the user-definable parameters that might make two implementations such that they won't talk to each other. Disclaimer: I am a software developer on an OC48 product which does have a full 7-layer stack and it does interoperate with other Alcatel products. I have no idea if it works with other vendors products. Of course none of this is Alcatel's official position. Dan Oelke Alcatel Network Systems droelke@aud.alcatel.com Richardson, TX http://spirit.aud.alcatel.com:8081/~droelke/ ------------------------------ From: mhenry@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Michael Henry) Subject: Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? Date: 18 Jan 1995 18:30:29 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley In article , dlr@daver.bungi.com (Dave Rand) says: > Their rates are very good. *HOWEVER* > Having read the fine print on the contract -- it claims that the > contract term is for service only, and does not guarantee rates -- I > added a notation on my contract that the Canada rates were to be as > quoted. This was a *very* good idea. > Then the bill came. The calls are rated at 0.37/minute. Customer > service says "too bad". My salesman says "oops -- the rates went up > *the day after* we signed up, too bad.". I said, "PUC, fraud, > bait-and-switch, contracted amount!" Long discussions followed. The > salesman wasn't allowed to change the contract, according to LDDS -- > their problem, not mine, I pointed out to them. As of now, we are > still fighting over credits, but they have agreed to give me the > contracted rate, for the contracted period (one year). Absolutely! Carriers may not like it, but the big four WILL sign contracts that limit rate increases to less than 4% per year. It's always a good idea to include rate stablization clauses that let you bail with no penalty if the carrier increases rates. ------------------------------ From: jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) Subject: Re: Planning to Purchase a Voice Mail System Date: 18 Jan 1995 18:30:24 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network Paul Hebert (paul_hebert@powershare.markem.com) wrote: > My company is doing research for selection of a voice mail system. We > have presentations scheduled with Octel and Centigram. Would anyone > have some technical or user related insight into these systems? We > have an NEC 2400 switch. Any interface issues we should be aware of? We purchased a system from Phoneby which was bought out by VMX. The system works, but has less features than Pacx Bells's system. We tried to upgrade it a year or so ago, but they wanted an arm and a leg to put a larger hard disk in it. The hard disk is a regular Maxtor MFM disk drive, something like 170 MB. They wanted thousands to upgrade it. The only thing special is that it's formatted in a proprietary format. Finally, what we did is have messages fall into the bit bucket in two weeks if they're not erased. John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs Rancho Santiago Community College District 17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgre@kn.pacbell.com ------------------------------ From: laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) Subject: Re: New Alert - 911 Access Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 17:28:22 GMT Ben_Burch@wes.mot.com (Ben Burch) writes: > In article , laurence@netcom.com (Andrew > Laurence) wrote: >> Recently I saw someone who appeared to be trying to steal a car, so, >> being a good citizen, I ducked around the corner out of sight and >> dialed 911 on my handheld cellular phone. Though I was standing on a >> street three blocks from San Francisco City Hall, I was connected to >> the California Highway Patrol. I waited several minutes for an operator >> to come on the line, and finally gave up. >> Good thing no one's life or safety was in danger. > This bad result is because you did the wrong thing! How many time do > people have to be told to dial the cellular operator, and say; > "Operator, this is an emergency, please connect me with the > police department emergency line." > This takes a few seconds longer, but reaching help was the job here, not > airtime minimization. Well, I assume that airtime to 0 is free, as is airtime to 911, so I wasn't concerned about the cost. However, my cellular carrier advises me to call 911 in an emergency. Andrew Laurence laurence@netcom.com | | Certified NetWare Administrator (CNA) Oakland, California, USA | | CD-ROM Networking Consultant Pacific Standard Time (GMT-8) | | Phone: (510) 547-6647 Pager: (510) 308-1903 Fax: (510) 547-8002 | ------------------------------ From: zeeff@eecs.umich.edu (Jon Zeeff) Subject: Re: Small Business PBX/Fax Back Server Needed Date: 18 Jan 1995 22:18:01 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Music on hold would also be nice. And ISDN instead of the POTS lines would be ok too. ------------------------------ From: bpc@netcom.com (Benjamin P. Carter) Subject: Re: Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Just Names Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 07:33:45 GMT [TELECOM Digest Editor Noted: > ... why don't you ask the telco serving the local calling > area for a copy of their directory. Most telcos will send it free of > charge, or they may get some small handling/postage fee. ... I recently tried ordering some phone books from various cities. I found that the price depended a lot on where I wanted the phone books sent. One book would cost over $50 if sent to one house, but only a few dollars if sent to another house about 1.5 miles away. Ben Carter internet address: bpc@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: ophidian59@aol.com (Ophidian59) Subject: Re: Where to Find Nice-Looking Phones? Date: 18 Jan 1995 12:35:36 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) If you want an inexpensive high quailty phone, try buy a plain telephone at the parts counter of your local Greybar, a telephony supply house. While on the subject of phones, I'd really like to find one of those old yet very mod (e.g. 60's) British phones with the dial and the hook-switch on the bottom. Anyone? ------------------------------ From: jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) Subject: Re: Wanted: Info on Fax/Modem Hookup For Motorola Lazer Cell Phone Date: 18 Jan 1995 17:32:14 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network Mike Chapman (mike@chimera.med.virginia.edu) wrote: > I got a Motorola Lazer pocket cell phone hoping to use it with my > notebook, but when I asked how much the device to do this costs, I was > very shocked to find that it was almost $300!! > Is this price ridiculous? Is there a cheaper place to get the > Motorola device? Are there any other options? Shocked? Just walk down the aisle at your local computer store. Anything that fits into a laptop, such as PCMCIA or proprietary buss device, modem, NIC, whatever. They all cost a couple hundred more than the AT buss devices of the same type. It's just because they are smaller, they are newer, they are supplied in lower volume, and they require the most up-to-date technology. TANSTAAFL. Motorola? Anything with that name on it costs more. John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs Rancho Santiago Community College District 17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgre@kn.pacbell.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #44 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa22752; 19 Jan 95 5:16 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA17196; Thu, 19 Jan 95 00:30:15 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA17189; Thu, 19 Jan 95 00:30:12 CST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 00:30:12 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501190630.AA17189@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #45 TELECOM Digest Wed, 18 Jan 95 00:29:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 45 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: 18 Jan 1995 15:48:53 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network Catching up with several recent comments in this thread: I'm dealing with contractors that have cellular phones, the little ones in their briefcases and toolboxes. The older cell phones mounted in the car are becoming less and less common nowadays. I've noticed that most of the conversations are on the go, from the conference room or job site to the guy's car -- on foot! This would, of course, still be in the same cell. And a lot of their conversations are short because it costs money, so those blabbermouths that are on the phone for long periods are rare. So I don't believe that much conversation is missed when someone monitors a cellular channel. PB Emerton (pb-emert@uwe-bristol.ac.uk) wrote: > Tony Pelliccio (Tony_Pelliccio@brown.edu) wrote: >> Actually the AOR-2500 comes through with the cell band intact. Or at >> least it did until the FCC attempted to clamp down on it. The nice >> thing is the AOR-2500 is considered a communications receiver and not >> a scanner and last I heard the whole thing was still tied up in >> hearings. >> Of course if you really want to follow a cell call just get a DDI and >> hook it up to your PC. The interesting thing is that the company that >> sells the DDI will only release software with ESN capability to law >> enforcement people. Makes you wonder doesn't it? > What company is it? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Please see the referenced remarks of Tony > Pelliccio above: 'FCC tried to clamp down ... still tied up in court'. > A word to the wise: you don't want to mess with those people *too much*. > A little maybe, but not too much. > Like some people here who have disagreed with me over the past couple > days on this, I seriously doubt the FCC is going to stage any massive > actions to get cellular phone equipped scanners out of circulation, etc. The reality is that the CB shops used to sell the GRE downconverters that would convert the cellular band to freqs 400 MHz lower, and they were about $70 or so. THey're not very sophisticated and don't cost much. They work. So even if you have a non-cellular scanner, it can still pick up the cellular band. But there is talk among some hams that you can take an old UHF tuner and use it for downconverting, too. But it would have to be the old 83 channel kind. And then it might not be stable enough. But it might be something to experiment with. > But what I can tell you is they can be a nasty bunch of buggers when > they want to be. In the past they have gone into pirate radio stations > and started pulling wires and fuses out of the control board while the > station was on the air ... kicked the door down and walked in. They > have spent hours driving around in a van through some neighborhood to > triangulate or get a fix on some signal when they wanted the guy. Like > all government agencies, they have loads of money and an infinite amount > of time and resources to spend when they decide they will get their way. I wish you would tell this th Steve Dunifer of FRB over on rec.radio.pirate. ng. He thinks he's going to break the FCC's back with micropower stations on the air. The FCC is already pursuing legal stuff against him, from what I've read. > As Tony points out, they are still fighting in court over the > AOR-2500. When the FCC gets a vendetta of some kind started, for > whatever reason, they will do a number on all concerned. Bureaucrats > will be bureaucrats, and there is nothing worse than a bureaucrat > scorned. :) There was some talk that the FCC wouldn't get so involved, but hand over the prosecution to the Dept of Justice. > Selective enforcement of their own code (the Communications Act) at times? > Sure ... all government agencies selectively enforce the law ... so sue > them. But if a time comes for whatever reason that you are a big target > the FCC would like to get under control and instead of just raiding your > premises with a United States Marshall in tow costing you all kinds of > grief and money -- the way another government agency did to Steve Jackson; > remember him? -- if instead they contact your attorney and tell him to get > you on the straight and narrow 'so we do not have to take this further' then > you know what you do? First you Praise Jesus ... then you think over very > carefully how far you want to push it. PAT] From the way Dunifer talks, that will never happen in his case. He sounds utterly righteous, and he also has an attorney. There is a _whole_ lot of diffwerence between S Jackson Games, who never did a thing to provoke the actions taken against him, and Dunifer, who keeps acting like Kevorkian in that he's constantly challenging the laws. David Moon (moon@gdc.com) wrote: > Bill Sohl contributed a FAQ about scanners, and part of Pat's response > was: >> Illegal modification (i.e. modification by an unlicensed person) voids >> your FCC authority to operate the radio. Furthermore, no *licensed* >> person is going to make illegal modifications to a radio and risk having >> such handiwork be traced back to his bench, at the possible risk of his >> loss of his license. > I'm sure this is true for radio transmitters, but for receivers? Are > you saying I need FCC authority to operate a receiver? What kind of > license are you talking about? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You don't need a printed license. Your > 'authority' is granted by the FCC by default. The FCC claims absolute > control over all radio devices and the airwaves, etc. As discussed > in an earlier message today, they claim in section 15.21 of their > code that they can revoke your (default) authority. Transmitter, > receiver, cordless phone, baby monitor, whatever. PAT] So far I've been reading a lot and not getting any info from anyone about what or if this has had anything decided in the courts. The FCC claiming absolute authority over the airwaves is, to, me, a lot like the police claiming absolute authority over drug sales. Hmmph. I was reading some state supreme court rulings somewhere here, and they are interesting. The state Environmental Protection Admin getting ruled against for overstepping their authority, or cities getting told that they don't have the authority to do certain things. Then I've seen what happened to our own college district when they laid off all of our gardeners and hired a contractor to do the job. Not a very bright move. They got told by the courts that they can lay off the gardeners if their positions have been eliminated, but they just can't do it to save money, and then turn around and hire a contractor to do the job. They violated the law. The lawns weren't eliminated! So they had to reinstate the gardeners with back pay and benefits. And this isn't the only dumb thing that they have done. I won't even get into Orange County's bankruptcy, another debacle. Until I've seen some court ruling on this, I will treat it as just what it is: opinions. Bob Keller (rjk@telcomlaw.com) wrote: > In TELECOM Digest V15 #32, Bill Sohl wrote: >> I have no problem with this statement and I'll state unequivocally >> that scanners and/or other types of radio receivers are not (if >> designed properly) included in the catagory "intentional or >> unintential radiator" and they are not, therefore, licensed. > I did not realize this was such a heated matter or I never would have > stuck my nose into it ... but, now that I'm here ... > A scanner most definitely is a "radiator". If nothing else, the micro- > processor circuitry that makes it scan constitutes an unintentional > radiator within the meaning of the rules. I have difficulty accepting this statement. There are several reasons. The scanners are usually wide band receivers, capable of receiving large parts of the spectrum. Many of the scanners are hand-held and operate off batteries. The microprocessors in both kinds are extremely low power ones because of at least a couple reasons that I can think of. One is to conserve pattery power. They are usually CMOS, and draw only microamps of current from the supply. Another reason they draw little power is that they don't have to have much calculating capability or MIPS because they do a simple job. They also draw very little power because the less power they draw, the less RF energy they radiate, and that means the less they might interfere with their own receiver. Since the receiver is very sensitive, the RF radiated from the microprocessor must be very low since it's only inches away from the receiver. Another thing I get from the part 15 rules as far as intentional radiation is concerned is that the FCC is basically saying that they don't want anything to do with them. In other words, in the instructions where it says you must not interfere and you must tolerate interference, they are saying that no one has any legal recourse if they are getting interference. The only recourse that the user has is to either turn the interference off or move the interference source or device receiving the interference farther apart from each other. The last paragraph about building or modifying has an explanation that's more to my liking. > I am _not_ saying that home-built devices and/or user-modified devices > are therefore automatically unlawful. In building or modifying a > device, however, the user is responsible for keeping the technical > parameters of the device within the radiation limits prescribed by > Part 15 and, if those limits are exceeded, the user no-longer enjoys > the right conferred by Part 15 to use the device without a license. > With the possible exception of cellular scanners (which is an issue > contaminated by political/industry pressures and other laws having > nothing to do with the regulatory purposes of Part 15), I don't think > there is any intent on the part of the government to prevent someone > from building or modifying non-transmitter devices (on a > non-commercial basis) in ways that do not cause interference, nor do I > think there is any governmental interest in expending resources > worrying it. John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs Rancho Santiago Community College District 17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgre@kn.pacbell.com ------------------------------ From: John_David_Galt@cup.portal.com Subject: Re: Chatter Heard on Scanner Leads to Criminal Charges Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 01:39:41 PST Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but somewhere in the FCC regs that were posted, it IS now illegal to manufacture a radio that receives cellular frequencies. I'll bet anything you like that building your own, or modifying a scanner that didn't get cellular before you worked on it, is "manufacturing" in the eyes of the law. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 9:05:06 CST From: ROsman@swri.edu Subject: Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio Maybe someone already noticed this, but the officer involved has provided sworn testimony indicating that he violated federal law. He used the radio out-of-band on a channel for which it is not licensed. A copy of the court transcript might interest the FCC's Chicago Field Engineer. The FCC takes a very dim view of modified ham gear on the commercial bands. If the modified radio you own was capable of out of band operation as the result of a receive, CAP or MARS mod, they probably won't care. If, however, specific modification was required to permit out of band transmitting, you may be inviting scrutiny that you would prefer to avoid. They don't care a whit if you listen to the police on on your ham rig, but if you intentionally transmit on frequencies you should not they *WILL* make your life miserable. They will do it more swiftly and with greater impunity than the locals. Just my opinion, Oz@SwRI.edu (Rich Osman) SwRI didn't say it, I did. (210) 522-5050 (w) (210) 699-1302 (h;v/msg/fax) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thank you for that comparison between local and federal law enforcement and justice systems. Indeed, most state and local law enforcement agencies are almost like the Three Stooges by comparison to the federal mechanism. You've heard the joke I guess about the Catholic priest, the Jewish rabbi, and assorted, sundry other preachers who die and go to heaven: at the front desk they see one of these 'take a number and wait your turn' dispensers. They take their numbers and sit down in the waiting room reading old copies of {Time Magazine} and whatever. They sit there a long time while the angel in charge seems to ignore them all as he works on his paperwork. Suddenly an old lady walking with a cane comes wobbling in and up to the counter. Sez the angel, "Oh, Mrs. Brown ... we've all been waiting for you! Come right in, we have your accomodations ready for you now!" She wobbles right on past and into the inner sanctum, where angels get their wings, and all that. The various Men of God all see this, and become quite indignant that they have been kept waiting and Mrs. Brown gets to walk right in. They go up to the front desk and ask what's the idea? Why did she go right in and we are kept waiting all this time? "Well," says the angel, "you see, Mrs. Brown was a federal probation/parole officer for forty years in New York. In a single day's time, she scared more hell out of people by threatening to unsatisfactorily terminate their federal probation than you guys did with a lifetime of preaching!" PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 21:28:50 GMT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: New Area Codes Working From Toronto So you were able to get a Seattle number from 360 directory assistance. Maybe 360-555-1212 is at least temporarily being routed identically to 206-555-1212. ------------------------------ From: jackp@telecomm.cse.ogi.edu (Jack Pestaner) Subject: Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? Date: 19 Jan 1995 04:29:52 GMT Organization: Oregon Grad. Inst. Computer Science and Eng., Beaverton Stay away from LDDS if the ability to receive calls (inbound 800) is essential to your business. One of our customers, a major telemarketing company, switched to LDDS. Almost constantly, regions of the US could not get through on the 800 number, and actually got disconnect messages in some cases. You see, LDDS is really an umbrella corporation that has taken over many small regional LD companies. As you can imagine, all the networks are different, and SS7 is just a pipe dream in that environment. They really don't have a network like AT&T, MCI, and Sprint. If you just need cheap outgoing LD, and don't care if it works all the time, LDDS is your company. If you have inbound 800, stick with the big three!!! Good Luck, Jack ------------------------------ From: mhenry@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Michael Henry) Subject: Re: Inter-LATA Rates in California Date: 18 Jan 1995 18:32:32 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley In article , ericp@ucg.com (Eric Paulak) says: > Linc Madison asked: >> Have the IXC's reduced their rates on calls between LATAs in ^^^^^^^ >> California to be more in line with both the new intra-LATA and >> interstate rates? > The answers a resounding "yes." In fact, AT&T, MCI and Sprint have all > undercut Pac Bell's rates. I haven't seen any new tariffs or price changes from the carriers for calls between LATA's. Michael Henry Analyst Telecommunications, University of California, Berkeley ------------------------------ From: pillutla@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com (Ramesh Pillutla) Subject: Re: Horrible Earthquake in Japan Date: 18 Jan 1995 14:14:08 GMT Organization: Alcatel Network Systems Inc. Reply-To: pillutla@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com Hi, I am interested in any press reports/info regarding the state of the terrestrial lines and cellular phone system in Kobe, Japan following the earthquake. I have heard from some of my Japanese friends that the cellular phone system is not fully operational but, roaming is out and a few cells are still operational. Currently, all private phone users have been asked not to use their phones and all available cellular facilities have been commandeered by the emergency services. Land lines are completely out of the question with all major CO's out due to lack of power. If anybody has any information, please post here. Ramesh [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The last I heard today, the death toll is now about 3000. Hospitals are turning people away because they have no resources or supplies left for treatment. They have given up looking for bodies. In many instances, people are simply sitting in front of their (former) homes, protecting the piles of rubble which remain. As one might expect, people are showing how *good* they can be with one another. Several women who have given birth in the past couple days who were unable to obtain service in a hospital have simply been assisted by their neighbors when the time came ... won't they have a story to tell that child in a few years! As you point out, telecommunications services still in operation have been seized by the government for emergency use. I am reminded of the scene here in Chicago the day of the great fire, in October, 1871: people kept trudging along northward, assuming that the fire would stop eventually. The fire jumped the river and proceeded to consume much of the north side. By mid-afternoon that Monday, about a hundred thousand people were milling around in Lincoln Park, homeless with what possessions they could salvage sitting on the ground in front of them. As the flames came closer and the smoke so dense they could not breath, most of them simply walked out into Lake Michigan into water up to their shoulders and stood there, facing away from the fire, with their possessions held out of the water above their head. In an editorial in the {Chicago Tribune}, October 9, 1871 entitled "Chicago Will Rise Again" the writer told of a nine year old girl who stood neck-deep in the lake with her one beloved possession, a parakeet in a cage held in the air out of the water. The bird succombed to the dense smoke and burning embers which were flying through the air, and the little girl wept quietly as the bird lay dead on the bottom of its cage. According to the {Tribune} that day (it had not published the day before, having been burned out of its own quarters on Dearborn Street) "Mayor Mason early Monday called an emergency meeting of the City Council to instruct the aldermen in their duties. They were informed that the city had seized the First Congregational Church to be used as the seat of government pending rebuilding of City Hall, as well as seizing the wires and telegraph facilities of the Western Union Company in Chicago so that communications could continue unabated. Magistrates were charged with the duty of 'taking control of railroad trains passing through the city, seizing any food provisions contained therein for distribution to our citizens'. But most important, the aldermen were instructed to take their horses, ride out to the park and circulate among the citizens to lessen their fears. 'Let the people know the government has been re-instated, that they have not been abandoned and that everything we can do will be done' ..." And the {Tribune} account concluded by noting that later that night it had begun to rain; not heavily but just a steady drizzle, enough to finally extinquish what remained of the fire which had begun two days before. "A hundred thousand of our citizens stayed there in Lincoln Park all night; with no shelter they stood there in the rain with nothing to eat for their supper, none the less with gratitude that their lives and the lives of their families had been spared." There are surely many people in Japan today feeling the same gratitude despite the terrible losses of the past three days. PAT] ------------------------------ From: jeremyps@eskimo.com (Jeremy Schertzinger) Subject: Re: Horrible Eartquake in Japan Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 01:14:57 GMT I have collected about 25 images of the Kobe earthquake from the net for viewing. Many of them are from NHK Television. All files are in GIF or JPEG format. Check them out at ftp.eskimo.com in /jeremyps/quake . Please use these instead of the Japanese servers. They are already overloaded. Thanks. Jeremy Schertzinger jeremyps@eskimo.com -- jeremys@scn.org http://www.eskimo.com/~jeremyps/ Happy New Year! ------------------------------ From: droelke@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com (Daniel R. Oelke) Subject: Re: How Can I Encrypt a T-1? Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:08:19 GMT Organization: Alcatel Network Systems Inc. Reply-To: droelke@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com Previously in this thread someone mentioned that Rockwell (through a division that had previously been Collins Radio) had a T1 scrambler or encrypter of some sort. Well, that company is now owned by Alcatel Network Systems (my employer). You can call 1-800-Alcatel for your local sales person. Sorry, I work in the Sonet OC-48 area and don't have any idea if we even have such a product anymore. Dan Oelke Alcatel Network Systems droelke@aud.alcatel.com Richardson, TX http://spirit.aud.alcatel.com:8081/~droelke/ ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #45 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa08847; 19 Jan 95 15:43 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20864; Thu, 19 Jan 95 07:03:05 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA20855; Thu, 19 Jan 95 07:03:02 CST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 07:03:02 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501191303.AA20855@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #46 TELECOM Digest Thu, 19 Jan 95 07:03:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 46 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Privately Owned Cables on Public Utility Poles (Greg Straughn) Re: What is a T1 Line? (Wally Ritchie) Re: Ancient Party Lines (Scott Falke) Re: New Area Codes Working From Toronto (Dave Leibold) Re: ISDN Over Wireless (John Lundgren) Re: Cattle Call (John Rice) International Freephone Numbers and European Phone Dials (J. Oppenheimer) Re: Looking For a CHILL Compiler (Per Bothner) Mobile Comms Questionnaire (Simon J. Wallace) NEC 2000IVS Wanted: Highend (Out-of-Band) Voice Mail Integration (Neubert) Missed Listing - and Lawyers, Not Lawnmowers (Carl Moore) A Call From Guess Where (David Farber via Stanton McCandlish) Always Busy 800 Number? (mre2b@virginia.edu) ISDN in Florida (Evon Bent) Voice File Formats (fonaudio@ix.netcom.com) Using U.S. Modem in Israel (Jeremie Kass) Can Caller ID Information Be Faked? (Chris Telesca) Telephone Vs. Cable TV as Data Carriers (y1n0@unb.ca) Looking for 900-MHz Cordless Hands Free Headset (Martin Soques) Areas Covered by Phone Book? (Benjamin P. Carter) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. ************************************************************************* * TELECOM Digest is partially funded by a grant from the * * International Telecommunication Union (ITU) in Geneva, Switzerland * * under the aegis of its Telecom Information Exchange Services (TIES) * * project. Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gregs@best.com (g straughn) Subject: Re: Privately Owned Cables on Public Utility Poles Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:55:01 -0800 Organization: BEST Internet (415) 964-2378 In article , mfletch@ix.netcom.com (Mark Fletcher) wrote: > I have been told that we can apply to the local municipality for a > utility franchise, and then place our own cables on existing poles. At > our current cost of $18,000.00 annually for special circuits, this > possibility is very attractive to us. > If anyone has information about the process, or could point me to any > pertinant legal documents on the subject, I would be very greatful. I believe in California you can rent "attachments" to utility poles for something like $1.00 per pole per month -- perhaps your state utilities have a similar product requirement. Good luck, Greg Straughn ------------------------------ From: writchie@gate.net Subject: Re: What is a T1 Line? Date: 19 Jan 1995 05:46:16 GMT Reply-To: writchie@gate.net In , balcroan@netcom.com (Butch lcroan/ .nameBalcroan Lilli) writes: [pseudo technical babble deleted] > ... but there is more to consider here. The " MU LAW " is not a linear > scale it is more of a log function with more steps closer to the lower > levels where the ear is more senstive. I really can't believe 2 DB; > come on Jeff, 3 db is half power *and also the least amount the ear can > detect*. 1. The impact on SQR (Signal to Quantitzation Noise Power Ratio) of bit robbing is: 10 log (6/(6+3r)) where r is the number of robbed bits. This ranges from -1.76db for a single robbed bit to -6.02db if all 6 bits are robbed in the progress of the digital signal between the two end terminals. 2. The primary effect of uLaw is to extend the dynamic range of the channel. The SQR ratio for uLaw is not all that different from other forms of PCM, particularly for typical high speed modem modulations which have more or less uniform signal power. SQR's for PCM depend on the type of PCM and the properties of the signals. For Modem signals SQR's are on the order of 36db. However, THE EFFECT OF BIT ROBBING ON THE SQR IS INDEPENDANT OF THE SQR ITSELF. 3. Robbing (eliminating) the low order bit has the effect of doubling the average voltage quantization error which is the same as quadrupling the quantization noise power. Robbing the LSB of any PCM scheme will result in a 6db decrease in the SQR. If you only rob one bit in six, you quandruple the noise power only 1/6th of the time resulting in the equation above. 4. Jitter in digital transimission signals has nothing to do with the Signal to Noise Ratio of the PCM stream unless a frame slip results. Jitter at the codec would be of concern but in all equipment of reasonable design the frequency components of such jitter are very low and of no consequence to high speed modems (or speech). 5. The impact of bit robbing is not of alarming concern compared to the other types of noise and errors involved with high speed modems. By far, the worst transmission impairment involves continuous frame slips on digital facilities due to unsynchronized clocks. While these impairments cause only a minor (almost unnoticable) impact on voice, they are disastrous to high speed modems because they cause a phase shift that virtually guarantees an error and a loss of the absolute carrier phase required to demodulate the signal. The effects persist for many symbols until the transmitting carrier's phase can be reacquired. Wally Ritchie Ft. Lauderdale, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 21:40:07 -0800 From: scott@csustan.csustan.edu (Scott Falke) Subject: Re: Ancient Party Lines Organization: CSU Stanislaus In article scott@csustan.csustan.edu (Scott Falke) writes: > In re your story about party-line entertainment: > X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 15, Issue 11, Message 2 of 14 > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The way you describe it was one way > of doing the ringing; there were various methods. What happened on > your system if you wanted to call someone on your party line? For 8-party, one dialed 119xy, where x was your line position (1-8) and y was the called party (1-8). The ring generator would alternate between the two. When the ring quit, you picked up the handset, cause they had too. If the ring didn't quit, you picked up the handset anyway. They weren't home. If you shared the same relative polarity with the called party (the gas tubes and tip/ting to gnd) you'd hear one long (i.e., yours) and two shorts (theirs) in repetition. THAT was real cool. Hey, a farming town, you know ... Scott Falke Turlock CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 00:40:00 -0500 From: dleibold@gvc.com (Dave Leibold) Subject: Re: New Area Codes Working From Toronto Carl Moore wrote: > So you were able to get a Seattle number from 360 directory assistance. > Maybe 360-555-1212 is at least temporarily being routed identically to > 206-555-1212. Makes sense, considering 206 directory assistance centre would be set up for the areas under 360 ... just a matter of keeping the area codes straight. Bell Canada is able to route phone calls to various operators across a region for directory assistance purposes. In theory, an operator in Thunder Bay (807) could wind up fielding information inquiries for numbers in other Bell Canada area codes. ------------------------------ From: jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM (John Lundgren) Subject: Re: ISDN Over Wireless Date: 18 Jan 1995 17:47:16 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Knowledge Network Hersh Jeff (hershj@bah.com) wrote: > John Lundgren (jlundgre@kn.PacBell.COM) wrote: >> Find out if the phone company has a newer 5ESS switch. > To be fair to other companies, it should be noted that Northern > Telecom, Siemens, and other switch vendors also offer ISDN switches > that can act as central offices. Here in Pac Bell land, the only one that I've ever heard installed in the last few years have been 5ESS. I didn't know what other switches had the ISDN capability. Sorry if I gave the impression that the 5ESS was the only one that could do it, I didn't mean to. John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs Rancho Santiago Community College District 17th St. at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 jlundgre@pop.rancho.cc.ca.us\jlundgre@kn.pacbell.com ------------------------------ From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com (John Rice) Subject: Re: Cattle Call Date: 18 Jan 95 22:33:49 CST Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division In article , RANDY@MPA15AB.mv-oc.Unisys.COM writes: > A local magazine (I think it was "Twin Cities Business") quoted an > item from an investment newsletter saying that some dairy farmers now > use pagers to call their cows. > One person here who's family raises cattle asked whether it wouldn't > be cheaper to keep a feeding a dog that herds the cattle instead of > paying monthly charges and air time. I can't feed my dog for $18/month, which is what I can get pager service (tone only) for, around here. One page a day is well under most limits for maximum pages/month. John Rice K9IJ rice@ttd.teradyne.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A couple of questions for whoever knows the answers ... is it hard to train a cow to respond to your call? Is there some sort of protective covering for the pager to keep it out of the rain and water, etc? A cow sees no problem with standing out in the field in the rain all day, or laying down on a muddy field to rest. In the heat of the summer a herd of cows in a pasture with a pond or lake will simply wander out into the pond and stand in water up to their neck to stay cool and keep the flies away. How does the pager withstand all this abuse? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Judith Oppenheimer Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:35:35 -0500 Subject: International Freephone Numbers and European Phone Dials European phone dials are being standardized and will include letters that correlate with the U.S. version. This took the ITU two years to decide, and is suppose to take effect next year. Judith J. Oppenheimer, Producer@Pipeline.com ------------------------------ From: Per Bothner Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 20:21:51 -0800 Subject: Re: Looking For a CHILL Compiler > I am looking desperately for a CHILL precompiler or compiler running > under any UNIX, LINUX, OS/2 or DOS. A pre-release of the GNU Chill compiler is available by anonymous ftp at ftp.cygnus.com, directory pub, file chill-1.4.tar.gz. This is a dialect of Chill that Cygnus did for one customer. It is not complete Z200 (any version), but we have tried to follow the 1988 standard, with support for some features of the 1984 standard. The GNU debugger (gdb) already has (some) support for Chill. GNU Chill is structured similarly as GNU C and C++ (gcc and g++): I.e. a "back-end" that is language-independent, and a language-specific "front-end." Cygnus (that is me) and the Free Software Foundation are working on cleaning up and merging in Chill-specific parts of the back-end. One that is done, GNU Chill will be officially released by the FSF in conjunction with future gcc releases. If you want GNU Chill to implement some feature that it doesn't yet, you should contact me. Cygnus can do the work for a fee, or you can do it yourself (since it is free software). If your changes are clean and generally useful, I will merge them in (but you should talk with me before doing anything substantial). [Cygnus provides commercial support or negotiated (paid-for) enhancements to some GNU and other "free" software ("sourceware" as our marketing department calls it), including GNU Chill, C, and C++.] Per Bothner Cygnus Support bothner@cygnus.com ------------------------------ From: Simon J Wallace Subject: Mobile Comms Questionnaire Organization: Edinburgh University Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 11:32:58 GMT Hello there. I wonder if you could help me with a questionnaire I am doing for my Masters Degree. I would appreciate some opinions on DATA communications over mobile phones. It should only take a couple of minutes. Could you please post the replies to me at sjw@ee.ed.ac.uk. I shall post my findings as soon as I have collated them. Thanks in advance. Simon #:-) 1) Do you have a Digital (D), Analog (A) or Dual Mode (DM) phone ? 2) Do you at present use your mobile phone to transmit data ? 3) Do you at any time in the future plan to use a mobile phone to transmit data ? 4) If so what factors would influence your decision i) ease of use ii) cost of equipment iii) cost of calls iv) reliability v) Other please state : 5) What be your MAIN use of mobile data comms? Thanks again, Simon #8-) ------------------------------ From: dougneub@ix.netcom.com (Douglas Neubert) Subject: NEC 2000IVS Wanted: Highend (Out-of-Band) Voice Mail Integration Date: 18 Jan 1995 12:47:54 GMT Organization: Netcom If anyone has a line on a highend (like the one they demo the switch with at the shows) voice mail integration package for the NEC 2000IVS. Will you please E-mail me. I am currently using Reparte DOS ver. 6.5; their newest release (3 weeks old as of 01/18/95) setup up for the 1400 but the timing is way off and many calls get dropped if I am on my phone and you call me (on my extension) from the outside world. NEC boys have been o/s three day trying to fix/patch this up but are having no success. We installed an attendant card in the switch in the card last night so today we will see if this will be the fix. Please if any one has any suggestions good or bad let me know. Thanks, Doug Neubert Telsource Corp. Cleveland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 17:43:02 EST From: Carl Moore Subject: Missed Listing - And Lawyers, Not Lawnmowers My latest Bell Atlantic phone bill in Maryland has a little insert which says: FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE ... (here, the reader turns the insert over) ... Keep these listings we missed in your new Bell Atlantic telephone book. Our goal is to give you an error-free phone book. We'll keep trying! -------------- That reminds me, some law office many years ago wound up in the Wilmington (Del.) yellow pages all right ... under lawnmowers. ------------------------------ From: mech@eff.org (Stanton McCandlish) Subject: A Call From Guess Where Date: 18 Jan 1995 17:39:40 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway [Passed along FYI for a little tittilation for the readers. PAT] Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 11:48:37 -0500 From: farber@central.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber) Subject: a call from guess where I got a call from DC from someone in the inside I know well who said: 1. The LD carriers have hired Howard Maker to lobby for them on the "The planned Communications Act Re-write of the New(t) Congress"; 2. That there are meetings Thursday and Friday on the hill between staffers and industrial representatives -- not hearings; 3. The staffers have been told to make sure no plans, notes, etc. get to the public; 4. This is on the fast track. The person said that the "ravings" were aimed right and would remove many of the restrictions and controls on the carriers. As I said before -- stanger things have happened. Sounds like they may be happening again. And so much for a more open government! Dave ---------------- -- Stanton McCandlish
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Online Services Mgr. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Do keep us posted. It sounds like some changes may be in store for us again. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Matt Subject: Always Busy 800 Number? Organization: University of Virginia Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 01:07:30 GMT What's an 800 number that is always busy? (and don't say Gateway 2000 Tech Support). Something that is guaranteed always busy. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: (Suspicious, squinting eyes) Why do you want to know? PAT] ------------------------------ From: xu@gate.net (Evon Bent) Subject: ISDN in Florida Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 14:19:41 GMT Organization: Cybergate Inc. Hey there, I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about Southern Bell implementing ISDN in Florida? I've been considering it to get a link to the net and a business line as well. I was also wondering if anyone could give me an idea of the rates I might get charged. If no one knows or isn't sure how about a number I might call to get this info? Barring that I was wondering if anyone was currently using ISDN in Florida and what their experiences with it were. TIA, Evon (xu@gate.net) ------------------------------ From: fonaudio@ix.netcom.com (TELEPHONETICS) Subject: Voice File Formats Date: 18 Jan 1995 19:56:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Can anyone give me information on the following formats for sound files: VBase, Dialogic, Rhetorex and New Voice Thanks. ------------------------------ From: kass@tacout.army.mil (Jeremie Kass) Subject: Using U.S. Modem in Israel Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:00:09 EST I am interested in using the modem I use in the U.S. while I am in Israel. Is there any technical and/or legal problem in doing this? Also, what kind of telephone jacks are used there? This will be connected to a residential line, so will it be the same RJ-11 jack as here? Thanks, Jeremie Kass * IS/IT Consultant * JPK Computer Consulting Huntington Woods, Michigan, U.S.A. Internet : kass@tacout.army.mil * jkass@detroit.freenet.org jkass@cati.csufresno.edu * jkass@jpkcomp.detroit.mi.us jk914s2187@sycom.mi.org ------------------------------ From: sascjt@unx.sas.com (Chris Telesca) Subject: Can Caller ID Information Be Faked? Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:25:15 GMT Organization: SAS Institute Inc. I recently got Caller-ID and *69 Call Return service beause a friend and I have been getting prank and other strange phone calls over the last few months. Generally it works great, but several times I've seen a few numbers displayed numerous times and used *69 to call the number back, only to find that the people I've called back say they never called me at all (sometimes these are elderly people, BTW). So I was wondering if it possible to somehow fool Caller ID/Call Return features into displaying and/or calling back the wrong/incorrect number? Any ideas, thoughts, experiences? Thanks! Chris Telesca Associate Photographer (919)677-8001 x7489 SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC 27513 / sascjt@unx.sas.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: It cannot be spoofed where the transmission coming from the central office is concerned. What we have discussed here in the past is the possibility of the caller sending bogus information to the Caller-ID box *after* the phone is answered, but in the first second or so before the called party is likely to have examined the data very carefully. You answer, and the caller shoves some other stuff to your box at the instant the connection is made. Two things you might want to do: Look at the incoming information very carefully *before* answering; then as you answer the phone watch to see if it changes almost immediatly to something else. In that case, flip back through the entries -- if your display unit holds several entries, you probably can page forward or backward through them to check the time of the call, etc -- and look at the one received *just before* the one presently in the display window .. or maybe the second one before the present one. See if one of those matches what you recall seeing on the display before you answered. A second thing is try keeping a record of these calls by the number on display and the number before it in the memory, etc. See if there is any pattern or repetition. They may be feeding you false data, but if so you should (by backing up one or two entries) see the same old number on several occassions. Or, maybe they are not sending false data and in fact the number you see displayed is where the call came from. The person(s) who answer may deny making the calls, but if you see the same entries time and again then its almost assured *someone* in that household is making the calls, even if it isn't Grandma or Grandpa when they take your return call. Another possibility is the caller is putting his phone on forwarding to some unsuspecting person, then calling you from some other line via the forwarding link. He sets up call forwarding, dials your number and even while it is ringing tears down the forwarding link. In many places your Caller-ID box is going to show the number of the party who forwarded the call to you, even if they are unwitting accomplices to the whole thing. If you are using call return as provided by telco, then any spoofing of your individual Caller-ID box should be only coincidental since regardless of whatever data he funnelled over to you, the central office is not likely decieved. Use *69 rather than any local 'repeat dial' or 'dial number shown in window of ID unit' to return the call. If he is using illicit call forwarding to get through to you then you might try calling the number actually on your display, provided it is not bogus -- see above -- and *nicely* asking the people there if *they* happen to have Caller-ID also. If they do, maybe they would be so kind to look at their unit and tell you who the last caller was shown to them. If it is not someone they know, then chances are likely that is your person. PAT] ------------------------------ From: y1n0@unb.ca Subject: Telephone Vs. Cable TV as Data Carriers Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 18:11:09 GMT Organization: UNB CSD I am currently collecting information, in order to make a comparison between Telephone Companies vs. the cable TV companies as Data Carriers. I would appreciate it if anyone who knew of material pertaining to this subject and where the material would is availble, ie. a FTP site which may contain reports on similar subjects, could either post or e-mail their findings. It would be a great help! Thanks for you time! Jeff Y1N0@spitfire.unb.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:13:27 CST From: Martin.Soques@amd.com (Martin Soques) Subject: Looking For 900-MHz Cordless Handsfree Headset Greetings! Subject line says all; I'm looking for a 900-MHz digital phone with a cordless headset rather than a cordless handset. That way, I don't have to crink my neck to hold a handset to have both hands free. A friend told me that he purchased one from a Sony Industrial catalog in his previous job. Any pointers to such a beast would be appreciated. Martin P. Soques martin.soques@amd.com Austin, Texas ------------------------------ From: bpc@netcom.com (Benjamin P. Carter) Subject: Areas Covered by Phone Book? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 06:27:00 GMT A typical phone book with both white and yellow pages has a map with a large white area surrounding a smaller yellow area. What is this map trying to tell me? Are all the listed numbers in the white area supposed to be in white pages of the phone book? They don't seem to be. Is the phone book sent to all subscribers in the yellow area? If not, what does the yellow area stand for? It clearly has little or nothing to do with the locations of businesses that advertise in the yellow pages. The yellow areas of different phone books (ie, directories) fit together like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. The GTE phone books where I live (near LA) show the parts of the puzzle covering their turf, but the PacBell phone books don't. Also, GTE has "neighborhood" directories that invade PacBell's turf. A "neighborhood" directory is typically much thinner than a real directory. Why? What is going on? I have a pile of phone books, and I seldom know which one to turn to for a particular purpose. Ben Carter internet address: bpc@netcom.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #46 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa25822; 21 Jan 95 2:12 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA18476; Fri, 20 Jan 95 21:54:50 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA18468; Fri, 20 Jan 95 21:54:48 CST Date: Fri, 20 Jan 95 21:54:48 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501210354.AA18468@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #47 TELECOM Digest Thu, 19 Jan 95 08:01:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 47 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson CO/Boston Added to NACN (Doug Reuben) Canadian CIC Codes: (Chris Farrar) Questions About WAN Compression For Data Networks (Peter Granic) Re: DQDB and SMDS (Kristoff Bonne) ANSI Terminal Communications (David O. Laney) Internet Software Wanted (L.C. Clower) Re: T1BBS Gone? (Mark Fraser) Re: BC Tel, SaskTel, Internet (Mark Fraser) Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? (Liron Lightwood) Re: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) (Colum Mylod) Re: GSM Cellular Operators List (Ben Wright) Summary: Looking For a CHILL Compiler (Andreas Junklewitz) Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK (Carl Moore) Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (Alan Boritz) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. You can reach us by postal mail, fax or phone at: 9457-D Niles Center Road Skokie, IL USA 60076 Phone: 708-329-0571 Fax: 708-329-0572 ** Article submission address only: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dreuben@interpage.net (Doug Reuben) Subject: CO/Boston Added to NACN Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 03:37:13 EST I just noticed that CO/Boston was added to the NACN today. Although a bit late, it is a welcome improvement! Prior to CO/Boston's (00007) addition to the NACN, there was a large coverage "gap" for automatic call delivery from Rhode Island (which Metro Mobile for some reason never hooked up with NY) all the way up to southern New Hampshire. (Central/Northern Seacoast NH as well as Vanguard Cellular in Maine were added last year.) CO/Boston also "shares" a seemingly bizare system with Atlantic Cellular (CO/Vermont) in the Lakes region of central New Hampshire, and it is possible that on BOSTON-owned towers NACN customers will get automatic call delivery there as well. I tried my Boston account out, and all features work very nicely, even to a limited extent redirects. In summary: -Redirects: If your call is delivered to a visited NACN market from Boston, redirects, or treatment of a call after no-answer to either voicemail or some other no-answer-transfer number WILL work, although to a very limited extent. Calls will NOT go back to voicemail, but will no-answer-transfer (NAT) to other numbers. From only a few cursory tests, it looks like what they are doing is allowing NAT to calls within the same local service area. That is, as long as the call would NOT have to go over an IXC if it were placed by the roamer in the visited market, then it will be allowed. Thus, for example, a Boston customer who roams in CO/NY's (00025) system will NOT be allowed to have redirects go back to his/her voicemail in Boston, nor will redirects be allowed to a NAT# in Washington, DC. However, NAT will be allowed to a number within the NY Metro LATA (but not, it seems, the local "toll-free" area.) Thus, if the NAT condition in effect for the Boston subscriber is while the subscriber is visiting the CO/NY system is: *71#555-1212 (the #555-1212 instructs the Boston switch to NAT to voicemail, which is problematic at times, especially on other Motorola switches linked to Boston [non-NACN]), the result is a "xx-20" switch recording informing the caller that the roamer/visitor is unavailable, generated by the visited (NY) switch. *71-305-555-1212, OR *71-1-305-555-1212 results in an ERRONEOUS "xx-44" recording, which is roughly "As a roamer, you must first dial a 1 when calling this number. Please call 611 and reference message [xx]-44." Quite confusing to landline callers indeed! *71-212-555-1212 or *71-800-555-1212: NAT works properly. This seems to make sense: If the DOJ forbids SWBell/Boston to offer redirects over an IXC (or from what I am told since SWBell is potentially too lazy to get a waiver for VM purposes :( ), then as long as the calls are NOT carried via an IXC, NAT can be offered without a waiver. The ANI from sample local redirects in the CO/NY system show a 516/Long Island number, and I suspect that these are coming from the Woodbury Switch. Hence, as long as the calls can be processed by CO/NY and/or do not cross LATA boundries (?), NAT will work. Although it would be nice if NAT would work back to VM in Boston, the ability to have some sort of local/800 redirect is a CERTAINLY better than nothing. -Call Forwarding: It's nice to see that Boston was not forced to adhere to the McCaw feature codes, and that they are allowed to retain their own codes for their own customers. *71 (NAT for Boston), *72 (Call Forwarding for Boston), *713 (NAT Cancel), *723 (CF Cancel), *73 (Global NAT/CF/Busy Transfer Cancel) all work fine, and receive a prompt confirmation tone. Moreover, CO/Boston customers who use NAT, *713, or *73 do NOT have to lose voicemail as they do in Connecticut or other non-NACN markets (I'm am no longer sure of CT's "non-NACN" status - they are doing weird things with roaming from what I hear. I need to test a few things out next time I am there to be sure...). If a CO/Boston customer who roams on the NACN chooses to set NAT away from voicemail to another destination (such as a "local" number as in the above example), and subsequently wishes to re-establish NAT to VM in Boston, entering *71#555-1212 WILL work, ie, it will set up the correct NAT coding in the Boston switch. Although as noted above a redirect will not work back to Boston VM, if the subscriber chose to activate the Do Not Disturb (*35) feature to turn off call delivery to the visited market, an incoming call would be properly treated in Boston and sent to voicemail. The ability activate/deactivate voicemail remotely and establish different NAT settings from anywhere within the NACN is a useful feature, one which is seemingly not widely available on the B-side auto call delivery network. -Do Not Disturb: *350/*35 works perfectly. It's odd that Boston chose to go with these codes, they use the more standard Motorola codes *28/*29 for their auto call delivery in VT, Mass, and CT. Perhaps they want to distinguish between the NACN and New England call delivery? Why? Boston makes call-delivery difficult enough already with their "call delivery home airtime sometimes" charges, why add an extra layer of confusion? -Call Waiting: Works perfectly, as do unanswered Call-Waiting redirects. -Three-Way: Again, works perfectly- it is more "elegant" to the roamer on the Ericsson than it is back at home on the Motorola! Bugs: 1. As noted before, the "xx-44" codes seem to be in error. Perhaps they are using the 1+ mechanism to determine if a redirect should occur or not and if not for some reason the switch coughs up the 44 recording? 2. If a visiting roamer has no conditional forwarding (NAT, BT) set, the call will ring in the visited market for an exceptionally long period of time (over 1 minute!), which is unusual and wastes airtime and handheld battery power. After about a minute or longer, the calling party does not get a recording, but rather a fast busy. 3. Sort of a bug: CO/Boston customers must (unfairly, IMHO) pay AIRTIME for call delivery, even though it is obvious to anyone that no airtime is being used if the subscriber isn't even in Boston system. (And the old excuse that "oh, you utilize a lot of trunk lines with call delivery" is nonsense -- the visiting system's roaming charges are enough to discourage flagrant overuse of CO/Boston's trunks). CO/Boston always used to maintain that customers could avoid these charges by having callers reach them by using the local roam ports. However, traditionally, when a system is added to the NACN, its customers are no longer accessible via the roam ports of another NACN member's system, and thus, if the same holds true for Boston, there is now NO WAY to receive calls without paying home airtime in Boston. Since the entire idea behind the NACN is nearly seamless service, it would be in SWBell's best interests to rid itself of this inane money-grabbing policy. However, if they are too stingy to let it go, then the roam ports need to be "open" for Boston subscribers who wish to avoid these charges. Overall, however, a very nice and smooth addition to the NACN, with only a few minor problems to resolve. Doug Reuben dreuben@interpage.net (203) 499 - 5221 Interpage Network Services -- E-Mail/Telnet to Alpha or Numeric Pagers & Fax ------------------------------ From: CHRIS.FARRAR%prothink@csrnet-bbs.com Subject: Canadian CIC Codes Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:26:54 GMT Organization: CSRNet(Voice 1705-949-9275 Data 1705-942-5370) To Pat and all those looking for the Canadian 10XXX codes, here is the latest list I have, issued by Industry Canada (formerly Dept. of Communications), and the address to write to for updates: Stentor says that responsibility for 10xxx and 950-xxxx numbers has been trasnferred from Stentor to Industry Canada, effective March 1, 1994. The new address for the Canadian Nmmbering Administrator (CNA) is: Christiane Chasle Canadian Numbering Administrator (CNA) Industry Canada 300 Slater Street, 18th Floor Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0C8 Telephone (613) 990-5554 Stentor also sent me a list of the codes, as they were before responsibility for numbering was assigned to Industry Canada. CIC stands for Carrier Identification Code, I think. The table is confusing. A code of 869 identified as 3D FG B&D is a three digit code used for both Feature Group B (950-xxxx) and Feature Group D (10xxx), so it would expand to 950-0869 and 10869. A CIC identified as 4D FGB expands to 950 followed by the four digits. Assigned Carrier CIC Code Feature Group Unitel 869* 3D FG B&D *869 is U.S. CIC Unitel 686 3D FG B&D Unitel 858 3D FG B&D AGT 424 3D FGD BC Tel 323 3D FGD Bell Ontario 363 3D FGD Bell Quebec 484 (see note) 3D FGD Note: Bell Quebec CIC reclaimed 1993-11 Island Tel, PEI 422 3D FGD Manitoba Tel System 783 3D FGD Maritime Tel & Tel 434 3D FGD NB Tel 448 3D FGD Newfoundland Tel 445 3D FGD Sask Tel 242 3D FGD EdTel 324 3D FGD Sprint Canada 5348 4D FGB Sprint Canada 348 3D FGD ACC 1234 4D FGB ACC 234 3D FGB Fonorola 507 3D FGD Fonorola 5507 4D FGB Westel 5978 4D FGB Westel 978 3D FGD STN 773 3D FGD ATCI 235 3D FGD TelRoute 318 3D FGD I assume that Bell Quebec will be using the Bell Ontario code of 363. After all, both Bell Quebec and Bell Ontario are simply divisions of Bell Canada, not separate corporations. A more up-to-date list of these codes may be available from Industry Canada, at the above address. Note: Not all carriers accept casual calling, and not all carriers are available from each province. Chris The Collosus Soo Resource Network - CSRNet - Gated InterNet Newsgroups 40,000 + Files Online - 6 Lines - 1-705-942-5370 (16.8 USR DS) File Request CSRNET or FILES from 1:222/21 or 11:11/0 Satellite Downlink - 5-10 Megs of New Files Daily 1-705-949-7224 (28.8) ------------------------------ From: stari@io.org (Peter Granic) Subject: Questions About WAN Compression For Data Networks Date: 19 Jan 1995 08:09:29 -0500 Organization: Internex Online (io.org) Data: 416-363-4151 Voice: 416-363-8676 I would appreciate it if someone could fill me in on how WAN compression is developing as they see it. Currently, we are only using V.FAST Motorolla modems with synchronous data compression in order to get throughputs of up to 30Kbs on a data-conditioned phone line. I was more interested in the use of compression in order to improve leased line performance, and thus leased line costs. By the way, the V.Fast modems are used to give us some decent bandwidth to "hick town" sites, where we can't get centrex or ISDN. Now regarding compression on regular leased circuits: As far as I can tell, the option is a no-brainer. Most companies advertise compression of 2.5-4 times, so that say 56K circuits can give an effective bandwidth of 130-200Kbs. So, for example, Cisco is advertising that they will be bundling this capability with their routers in order to help reduce customer's costs. Question: Is most of the compression which bridge and router manufactures use for WAN access implemented in software or hardware? Question: Is most of this technology developed in-house using standard compression algorithms? Do they license compression algorithms/technologies from other companies? Question: Assuming compression is being done with a third party vendor, i.e. hypothetically, let's say a Wellfleet router is used in combination with say some Motorolla equipment (I imagine they have it for leased lines) to increase WAN bandwidth. Is adding the extra vendor a major headache in terms of operating the network, as opposed to bundling the components into one vendor's products? Thanks, Peter Granic ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 09:41:21 +0000 From: KRISTOFF.BONNE@PIRESSYS.BELGACOM.RTTIPC.belgacom.be Subject: Re: DQDB AND SMDS Greetings, Fred. >> Can anybody explain to me what the difference and/or connection is >> between DQDB (Distributed-Queue dual-bus) and SMDS (Switched >> Multi-Megabit Data Service). > Interesting topic, since the two are easily confused. > DQDB is a "Metropolitan Area Network" defined by IEEE 802.6. It > provides for a cell-based (48-byte payload, similar to ATM) data > transfer, shared media with arbitration (telco speeds, T1/E1/T3/E3/ > SONET/SDH as intended PMDs), and a novel combination of MAC services. Right! (BTW: How many bit/s are T1/E1/T3/E3. etc.?) > SMDS is a connectionless packet-switched public network service > developed by Bellcore. It uses E.164 (ISDN/telephone numbers) for > addresses, allows long (9KB?) packets, etc. Sounds a lot like a OSI-variant of the IP Internet. (?) > When SMDS was being invented, DQDB was hot, so Bellcore specified that > the data link layer of SMDS would be the DQDB protocol. This is "SIP > layer 2" and part of "SIP layer 3". Thus it is possible to implement > SMDS using DQDB multiport bridges. This is done in some places. In > effect, SMDS is a service that DQDB delivers using a subset of its > capabilities. Seames to be the situation here in Belgium. > In American practice, most users do not accept DQDB's odd cell-based > datalink, so SMDS now usually uses the "DXI" format, which maps SIP3 > packets into HDLC frames. Some DQDB vestiges (packet header, trailer) > remain but it's really just a packet service now. I am more interested in the situation in Europe. Anybody any info on MAN networks in Europe. (As far as I know, there is -at least- a MAN in stockholm and one somewhere in the UK). Technology? Number of users? Pricing? Interconnection? Talking of interconnection: I've read some the 'grand plan' is to build a number of high-speeds interconnection pockets (mainly using DQDB, ...) and the interconnect them all using ATM-links. Are there already such interconnections? Does there exists an international numbering-sceme for all these networks? For the record, this is the situation in Belgium: BelgaCom (up to 1998 Belgium's sole operator) operates a MAN in two cities: Brussels and Antwerp. They use DQDB and operate at 140 Mbit/s internally. The MANs are interconnected at 34 Mbit/s. Connections to the MAN are possible at speeds of 2 and 34 Mbit/s, using 802.3 ethernet, 802.5 token ring, 802.6 DQDB and G.703. (whatever that may be ;-)) SMDS is supported. Apart from that, there is a ATM-based network in the province of Antwerp (called 'MANAP'), operated by the {city|province} of Antwerp. Brussels also houses a switch of the (well known) pan-European ATM pilot network. (of which I have no further information neither ;-)). Cheerio! Kristoff Bonne, BelgaCom IS/TeLaNet netwerk planning en - beheer (C=BE;A=RTT;P=RTTIPC;S=Bonne;G=Kristoff) fax : +32 2 2025497 kristoff.bonne@rttipc.belgacom.be Voice mail : +32 70 615492 ------------------------------ From: ua291@fim.uni-erlangen.de (David O. Laney) Subject: ANSI Terminal Communications Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 13:12:32 GMT Organization: Free-Net Erlangen Nuernberg, Germany Hi Netters, I am interested in getting the ANSI Terminal Standards (i.e. escape sequences) to use to drive a communications package. I would like to get the full set of sequences of which ansi.sys in the DOS world is only a subset of. If you know how to get a hold of the standards or Ansi people. Please drop me a line at dl211@randr.com. Thanking you in advace. From: David O. Laney Internet: ae711@dayton.wright.edu Voice: +1 (513) 443-2765 Fax: +1 (513) 443-2489 ------------------------------ From: L.C. Clower Subject: Internet Software Wanted Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 02:09:29 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Somebody please drop me an email re: software packages to access Internet. I have local access to Sprintnet but what do I need now? Have PC. Thanks, L. C. Clower LCCLOWER@DELPHI.COM ------------------------------ From: mfraser@vanbc.wimsey.com (Mark Fraser) Subject: Re: T1BBS Gone? Date: 19 Jan 1995 07:32:22 GMT Organization: Wimsey Information Services I've answered my own question. ftp ftp.t1.org ; telnet t1bbs.t1.org. New phone numbers in Washington, DC. The site moved from California. That explains why my problem. ------------------------------ From: mfraser@vanbc.wimsey.com (Mark Fraser) Subject: Re: BC Tel, SaskTel, Internet Date: 19 Jan 1995 07:39:22 GMT Organization: Wimsey Information Services I shouldn't be so irreverent, but I interpret BCTel's response to mean "Someone already has control of the urban centers at 1.60 an hour, we're getting 9.00 or more an hour from the smaller places now, why should we reduce it to the three bucks or so that Sask is charging ..." I bet they don't say THAT when you call. Earlier information -- New Brunswick. NBTel went from free to 10.00 an hour last year, so everyone went away. Last I heard, only a few came back when they reduced it back to five bucks. And then we have Brent Sauder of the Advanced Systems Institute [sorry, Brent ....] who was also quoted in the Sun as rejecting the concept of "put it in place and they will find a use for it". Set the movement back ten years. And the telcos are telling us that Rogers and Shaw are arrogant. Time for the revolt, folks ... /Mark ------------------------------ From: Liron Lightwood Subject: Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:12:20 +1100 Regarding the question of people always having to dial an area code if cellular phone numbers were moved to their own prefix. This does not have to be the case. Here in Australia, we have the best of both worlds. Our cellular phones have their own area code like prefixes, e.g. 018, 015, 041. However, when making a local call from a cellular phone, you only have to dial the six or seven digit number, no area code required. For example, if you're in Melbourne (03), to dial (03) 123 4567, you would dial 123 4567. If you were in Sydney (02) and you wanted to dial (02) 123 4567 you would dial 123 4567. To dial another cellular phone from a cellular phone, you would have to dial the whole number, including the prefix. Perhaps this sort of system could be implemented in the US, thus solving the problems which the wireless CO's are concerned about. The only problem is areacode splits. Suppose you were near the 213/310 boundary. How would the cellular phone base station know which side you were on? What about the customer? Liron (Ronny) Lightwood - liron@insane.apana.org.au <=== NEW ADDRESS Insane Public Access, Melbourne Australia [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Unless I am misunderstanding something, we do dial calls now as you suggest. If a cellular phone is in area 708 (that is, *based* in 708, or using that as its 'home') then we need to merely dial the seven digit number. It does not matter where the phone actually happens to be in at the moment; the phone could be in New York for all anyone cares. If 'follow me roaming' is turned on, we still just dial the seven digits if in the same 'area'. PAT] ------------------------------ From: cmylod@nl.oracle.com (Colum Mylod) Subject: Re: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) Date: 19 Jan 1995 09:05:01 GMT Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Reply-To: cmylod@uk.oracle.com Dik.Winter@cwi.nl wrote: > Why would any European customer wish numbers like 800 THE CARD, unless > they expect most of their traffic from the US? [...] > In Europe letters are *not* used. And when they were used assignment > was not identical to the US assignment. See the telecom archives for > an article were I gave some European assignments. Ah but Dik, British Telecom intends to reintroduce letters in phone numbers (they've been on various phone units for a long while -- imports mainly). Even in non-English Europe you'll see them back if for no other reason than introducing variety in freephone numbers. Currently a lot of European (monopoly) telcos issue patterned numbers like 123456 or 876 876 etc. Having letters ups the 'saleable" freephone number combinations. According to a brief glimpse I got at uk.telecom (is this available via listserv anyone?), BT will use the same letters-numbers pattern as the Bell one but with Z added to the 9 key and Q on 0 (I think, going from memory). The original British pattern had letter-O on number-0 (THAT's sensible IMHO). ------------------------------ From: bwright@jolt.mpx.com.au (Ben Wright) Subject: Re: GSM Cellular Operators List Date: 19 Jan 1995 12:16:42 GMT Organization: Microplex Pty Ltd Australia has three GSM networks, Telecom, Optus and Vodafone. ------------------------------ From: ajdsv@ind.rwth-aachen.de (Andreas Junklewitz) Subject: Summary: Looking For a CHILL Compiler Date: 19 Jan 1995 13:44:14 GMT Organization: RWTH Aachen Reply-To: ajdsv@ind.rwth-aachen.de The solution for my problem seems to by the pre-release of the GNU Chill compiler. It is available by anonymous ftp at ftp.cygnus.com: pub/chill-1.4.tar.gz. Thank you very much for your answers: Per Bothner Mike Stump With best regards, Andreas Junklewitz, Phone: ++49-241-806984, Telefax: ++49-241-8888186 Institute for Communication Systems and Data Processing RWTH-Aachen (University of Technology) Muffeter Weg 3, 52072 Aachen, Germany E-Mail: ajdsv@ind.rwth-aachen.de or junklewitz@rwth-aachen.de ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 23:05:51 GMT From: Carl Moore Subject: Re: NANP 800 Numbers From the UK Drat, I forgot to ask (or notice?) what happens when you dial that North American 800-MY-ANI-IS from the UK. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Two or three people reporting on this said MY-ANI-IS reported they were calling from something like 702-000-5555. Someone else mentioned their belief that calls from Europe to 800 numbers are being sent to somewhere in Nevada where they are then in turn being sent out to the actual numbers, thus the 702 part of the ANI. PAT] ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio From: drharry!aboritz@uunet.uu.net (Alan Boritz) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 07:42:46 EST Organization: Harry's Place - Mahwah NJ - +1 201 934 0861 bill.garfield@yob.com (Bill Garfield) writes: > While the writer is correct in his statement that Amateur or Ham radio > equipment is not 'type-accepted', equipment which -lawfully- operates > on commercial frequencies (police frequencies) and is capable of > TRANSMITTING thereon, _must be_ type accepted, approved and certified > for such use. The modifications therefore would constitute an equipment > technical violation. No, Bill, they wouldn't. The transmitter wasn't operated on those frequencies, therefore there was no "technical violation." > Although the act of 'tampering' with non type-accepted equipment is > allowable, the moment that equipment radiates energy on frequencies > where type acceptance _is_ a requirement, then the modified equipment > is in violation and as "property" it becomes contraband. But the equipment described wasn't operated on non-amateur frequencies, therefore it was never "in violation." > While FCC regulations deal mainly with use and not possession, the > writer may still be on shaky ground. I certainly wouldn't want the > local constabulary _aware_ that I possessed transmitting equipment > capable of operating on their lawfully assigned frequencies. Not shaky by any means, just not wise. > But the obvious question which remains unanswered is -why- was the > person's room searched in the first place? "Reasonable suspicion" is > sufficient grounds in most jurisdictions, but suspicion of what? Suspicion of ACTUALLY causing harmful interference doesn't seem to be an issue, since it doesn't seem to have been raised. It would appear that the sole purpose of confiscating the radio was because it MIGHT be used to transmit on local government frequencies. There's a big difference between MIGHT and DID. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, this is something the original > writer did not explain to us, and as you suggest, it seems like a very > important part of this whole mystery. If their 'reasonable suspicion' > had to do with improper or inappropriate transmissions on the radio, > then the defenses discussed to date may go topsy-turvy in court. Not exactly. I would expect that it would be just the opposite. If the officers were looking for a pirate transmitter that *caused* (in the past tense) interference with their communications, they were CLEARLY outside of their jurisdiction. ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #47 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa13651; 20 Jan 95 0:56 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19407; Thu, 19 Jan 95 20:17:04 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA19400; Thu, 19 Jan 95 20:17:00 CST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 20:17:00 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501200217.AA19400@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #48 TELECOM Digest Thu, 19 Jan 95 20:17:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 48 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Dial Modifiers and International Callback Service? (Chuck Poole) Re: Areas Covered by Phone Book? (bkron@netcom.com) Re: BC Tel, SaskTel, Internet (Tim Curry) Re: PC-Based Voice Mail and AMIS (David Campbell) Re: GSM SIM Implementation (Eric Tholome) Re: GSM Cellular Operators List (Marcus Lee) Re: Voice File Formats (Les Reeves) Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? (Phil Ritter) Re: Planning to Purchase a Voice Mail System (Al Niven) Re: Sonet SDH DCC Information Wanted (Jim Burkit) Re: Always Busy 800 Number? (Peter M. Weiss) Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? (Kyle Sloan) Re: FCC PCS Auction Information (Bob Keller) Re: Cattle Call (Andrew C. Green) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. 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Views expressed herein should not be construed as represent-* * ing views of the ITU. * ************************************************************************* Additionally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of twenty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: inrworks@gate.net (Chuck Poole) Subject: Re: Dial Modifiers and International Callback Service? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:12:11 Organization: Voiceware Systems, Inc. In article winkowsk@stc.nato.int (Daniel Winkowski) writes: > I subscribe to an international callback service to get lower rates > from the US to Europe. I need to fax and data connect to US numbers > vai my modem. I dial a US number, let it ring once, hang up, get > called back and upon answering have a US dial tone. > My timeout problem is with the callback service (if no activity takes > place once dial tone is established after ~20 seconds it disconnects > so - "Changing the S-Register S7" or other modem characteristics will > not have any affect. Most callback companies have come up with a more simplistic soloution to your problem. The solution involves playing a dial tone recording (400-440hz) after the callback has been answered and thus "fooling" the modem. This feature was origionally invented so that PBX/Hotel users could make use of callback services. In a Hotel application, the callback system plays "Please connect me with room 1234." You want this message to play a dialtone upon connect. The sequence of events would be something like this: 1. Initiate Callback (manually) 2. Prepare your modem to dial as if you were dialing a direct number. 3. When the callback starts ringing your modem line, command your modem to go offhook and dial (ATDT XXXXXXX, etc.) 4. You modem will go offhook, hear the dialtone being played from the callback provider, and be fooled into dialing the number. Always make sure that ATS0=0, so your modem won't try and answer the phone automatically. Best Regards, Chuck Poole Voiceware Systems, Inc. Manufacturers of Custom T1/E1 switching systems. Including Debit Card, Calling Card, 900 systems, and Protocol converters and routers. 407-655-1770 X14. ------------------------------ From: bkron@netcom.com (BUBEYE!) Subject: Re: Areas Covered by Phone Book? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 01:07:25 GMT bpc@netcom.com (Benjamin P. Carter) writes: > A typical phone book with both white and yellow pages has a > map with a large white area surrounding a smaller yellow area. > What is this map trying to tell me? If you read the caption, it says "Directory delivery area" or "Directory Coverage Area." In other words, the yellow area represents the geographical area which the directory (white pages) covers. This is also the area where the directory is distributed for free to telephone subscribers. Also, every business in the yellow area is entitled to a free straight-line listing in the Yellow Pages, although many pay a premium for a larger listing or a display ad, and some decline any listing in the Yellow Pages at all. > Are all the listed numbers in the white area supposed to be in white > pages of the phone book? They don't seem to be. No, The white (surrounding) area is just for reference so you can see where the area being covered is located by reference to surrounding communities, etc. > Is the phone book sent to all subscribers in the yellow area? Yes. > what does the yellow area stand for? It clearly has little or nothing > to do with the locations of businesses that advertise in the yellow > pages. Every business telephone subscriber in the yellow area is entitled to a free "straight-line" listing in the Yellow Pages. Some businesses run larger listings or even display ads instead, others opt out of having any listing. But any business, regardless of their location, may purchase space in the Yellow Pages. For example, some of my businesses purchase Yellow Page space in directories nationwide even though the business being advertised is in Seattle. > GTE has "neighborhood" directories that invade PacBell's turf. Some Bell Companies, like US West, are beginning to publish books for distribution in independent areas, like GTE's, too. Anyone who has tried to deal with GTE directory sales people (or even find out how to get a hold of them) finds this welcome news indeed! Frequently, though, "neighborhood" directories are published by independent publishing companies who aren't tied to phone companies. > A "neighborhood" directory is typically much thinner than a real > directory. Why? Because they will print only paid listings and most businesses feel that since they already have a listing in the "real" book, either for free or that they've paid for, and that book is already universally distributed, why bother? ------------------------------ From: curryt@nbnet.nb.ca (Tim Curry) Subject: Re: BC Tel, SaskTel, Internet Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:30:35 Organization: NBTel In article mfraser@vanbc.wimsey.com (Mark Fraser) writes: > -- New Brunswick. NBTel went from free to 10.00 an hour last year, > so everyone went away. Last I heard, only a few came back when they > reduced it back to five bucks. Hi -- Perhaps I could update Mark's information on NBNet service in New Brunswick. Although it was preceded by an un-priced ("free") market trial, commercial service was introduced at $9.60 per hour early last year. Prices were decreased about mid-year to their current levels, which are: $6.00 per hour from 8AM to 6PM $4.80 per hour from 6PM to 11PM $3.00 per hour from 11PM to 8AM Service is available via local seven-digit call from every location in New Brunswick, at 28.8 Kpbs. Other services are also available. Our customers have not gone away, quite the contrary. We're very pleased with the growth rates. Thanks for the chance to comment; hope this helps. Tim Curry NBTel 506 658-7100, FAX 506 694-2864 ------------------------------ From: dcampbel@egreen.iclnet.org (David Campbell) Subject: Re: PC-Based Voice Mail and AMIS Organization: CamTek Micro Systems, Inc., Vancouver Washington USA. Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 22:31:28 GMT In article , David Reeve wrote: > I am researching a business opportunity that will require extensive > use of the AMIS-Analog networkng protocol to send voice mail messages > from system (Octel) to a different PC-based voice mail system. > Any recommendations (or warnings) regarding PC based voice mail vendors? Investigate CallWare Technologies NLM for voice and data integration on LANS. It should do what you may want to do. Their phone number is 801-496-9922. Dave Campbell ------------------------------ From: tholome@dialup.francenet.fr (Eric Tholome) Subject: Re: GSM SIM Implementation Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:42:53 +0200 In article , k22413@kyyppari.hkkk.fi (Harri Kinnunen) wrote: > Most of the hand-held GSM phones use a "punched-out" section of the > Smartcard, being about 1cmx2cm in size. The punch-out dimensions are > also standard, but I don't know if they are included in ISO-7816. And this totally ruins one of the nice purposes of the SIM: being able to have several phones (for instance, one nice vehicle mounted phone, and a hand held terminal) and still using them with one SIM only. If two of your phones use different types of SIM, you're out of luck! I've been told that some companies were now selling adapters, but the convenience of all this has yet to be seen. Luckily, it seems that manufacturers have realized this and they now offer small hand-held terminals that will take normal size SIM cards. But of course, these models can't be really small, limited as they are by the size of the card. Would could have guessed that credit cards would finally happen to be too big? :-) Eric Tholome 23, avenue du Centre tholome@dialup.francenet.fr 78180 Montigny le Bretonneux phone: +33 1 30 48 06 47 France fax: same number, call first! ------------------------------ From: e9321452@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (Marcus Lee) Subject: Re: GSM Cellular Operators List Date: 20 Jan 1995 00:34:34 GMT Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland etxlndh@eos99.ericsson.se (Robert Lindh) writes: > Australia Optus > Vodafon That's spelled Vodafone. You also missed the largest carrier in Australia, Telecom/Telstra. ------------------------------ From: lreeves@crl.com (Les Reeves) Subject: Re: Voice File Formats Date: 19 Jan 1995 13:07:44 -0800 Organization: CR Labs TELEPHONETICS (fonaudio@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > Can anyone give me information on the following formats for sound files: > VBase, Dialogic, Rhetorex and New Voice Dialogic uses 4 bit ADPCM at 6 kHz based on an OKI chip. That is what the .VOX files are, although newer /D series can do mu-law at 64 kbps. They are headerless, so just because you find a file with .VOX as the extension does not prove it is Dialogic. Rhetorex uses ADPCM, but the format is not disclosed. It seems to be something along the line of ITU G.721, or perhaps a bit better. They claim better S/N at lower sample rates than Dialogic, and their boards were designed around more powerful DSP hardware. My guess is that they do something similar to Natural Microsystems VBX, which is to first convert to mu-law or A-law per G.711, and then feed that into the DSP ADPCM conversion. Rhetorex also uses .VOX, but their files have a header of sorts. The data begins at about 80h, and I assume index marks can go in the header although no file name or other info appears to be there. New Voice uses CVSD. I can't remember whether it is the Motorola CVSD or Harris CVSD. New Voice is 24kbps. I am not familiar with VBase. Converting any of these files to something standard, like linear PCM (WAV), is more involved than you might think. Converting between two different IVR formats can be quite involved. Coverting offline without one of the source or target systems installed generally uses quite a lot of FPU MIPS. Les lreeves@crl.com Atlanta,GA 404.874.7806 ------------------------------ From: pritter@nit.AirTouch.COM (Phil Ritter) Subject: Re: Wireless CO's Challenge New NPAs? Organization: AirTouch Cellular, Los Angeles Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:54:47 GMT In article Liron Lightwood writes: > Regarding the question of people always having to dial an area code if > cellular phone numbers were moved to their own prefix. This does not > have to be the case. > Here in Australia, we have the best of both worlds. Our cellular > phones have their own area code like prefixes, e.g. 018, 015, 041. > However, when making a local call from a cellular phone, you only have > to dial the six or seven digit number, no area code required. > For example, if you're in Melbourne (03), to dial (03) 123 4567, you > would dial 123 4567. If you were in Sydney (02) and you wanted to > dial (02) 123 4567 you would dial 123 4567. While this may be interesting in areas like Australia, where the numbering plan areas (or city codes) are large, it breaks down quickly in the NANP [at least in the dense parts of it]. For example, in Los Angeles, the metropolitan area is served by six NPAs (213, 310, 714, 805, 818, and 909). There several points where, unless you had an intimate knowlege of the area, you could be "in" any one of three NPAs [in fact, there are at least two locations where movement of only a few blocks can take you from 213 to 310 to 818!]. Which NPA should the wireless carrier use to deliver calls in this area? Is it really fair to expect customers to know the intimate details of their location and which NPA they are now in? It is not at all uncommon for a five minute drive on the freeway to pass through five NPAs (many combinations are possible). Also, in areas where the terrain is not flat and/or where there are large bodies of water with irregular shorelines (e.g., the Pacific ocean on the LA/Orange County coast), the "cellular honeycomb" is not perfect - it is possbile for calls to set-up on quite unexpected cell sites [this had interesting implications for delivery of emergency calls (911) too]. The "caller" and the cell that their call originates in may not be in the same NPA (in fact, near the NPA borders, the calls and the serving cell are not even likely to be in the same NPA). Using seven digit dialing based upon "caller location" rather than "the NPA of the calling mobile MIN" will have quite unexpected results. Phil Ritter pritter@la.airtouch.com ------------------------------ From: alniven@pipeline.com (Al Niven) Subject: Re: Planning to Purchase a Voice Mail System Date: 19 Jan 1995 11:31:01 -0500 Organization: The Pipeline We have installed over 15 different brands of Interactive Voice Response and Voicemail and Fax On Demand and Callback and Telephone Answering Service Equipment over the past six years all over the country on over 150 types of pbx's especially pbx's where the manufacturer said it cannot be done and in circumstances where a previous vendor had been ripped out. If you would be so kind as to provide your phone number we can discuss the info and references sent via email. Al Niven Video, Voice, and Data, Inc. 292 Fifth Avenue, #201 NY NY 10001 212-714-3531 voice 212-714-3510 fax (attention Al Niven) ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jan 1995 09:58:09 GMT From: JIM BURKIT Subject: Re: Sonet SDH DCC Information Wanted Ton Engbersen asked: > In Sonet/SDH multiplexer and section overhead, there are the D1..D12 > bytes, reserved for "network management and supervision". Can anyone > shed some light on the data transmission protocol which governs these > DCC channels? Is this (already?) standardized? If so which standard? The SONET DDC has been standardized. It is a 7 layer OSI stack. The base standard in the US is T1.105 and in the ITU it is G.784. These base standards point to other documents. In the ITU G.784 points to Q.811 and Q.812. I am not sure which standards the ANSI standard points to as the US document is being being revised this week in T1X1. As you are in Europe I hope the SDH information is enough. Jim Burkitt ------------------------------ Organization: Penn State University Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 11:12:44 EST From: Peter M. Weiss Subject: Re: Always Busy 800 Number? In article , Matt says: > What's an 800 number that is always busy? (and don't say Gateway 2000 > Tech Support). Something that is guaranteed always busy. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: (Suspicious, squinting eyes) Why do you want > to know? PAT] Hey maybe it's a riddle? Answer: When the 800 number terminates on your POTS line and you have called it from that line (assume no call-forwarding etc.) I admit, not funny, but the best that I could do. ;-) Pete [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Here is a good one for you to figure out. I have two 800 numbers. Even though I have call-waiting on the line where the 800 numbers terminate, I expect to be unable to dial my own number and get call-waiting. We all know when you dial your own number (from that number) you just get a busy signal. Okay? ... well, when I use the phone to dial the 800 numbers, one of them does in fact go off somewhere, set up the call, come back to me and give me a call-waiting tone. Obviously it leaves my switch and returns. Now the other 800 number on the other hand is quite a mystery to me -- how it operates, that is. When I dial it the call goes through *instantly* as though it were a local call, and if I dial it from the phone it terminates on, I instantly get a busy signal. I do NOT get the 800 number from Ameritech/IBT (from another carrier, a little outfit actually), so I do not know how Ameritech can have such umm, intimate familiarity with it. It would appear to not even leave the switch at all. Any ideas? The first 800 number seems to get to its own switch somewhere and get outdialed back to me. What is the second one doing, just getting translated locally somehow in my switch? PAT] ------------------------------ From: sloan@qns.com (Kyle Sloan) Subject: Re: Anyone Have Experience With LDDS/Metromedia? Date: 20 Jan 1995 00:36:13 GMT Organization: Questar Network Services chuck lukaszewski (clukas@mr.net) wrote: > I received some information from LDDS/Metromedia yesterday about their > long distance service. The rates seem entirely too good to be true, > and I'm wondering if anyone here has experience (good or bad) that > they would share. > At the moment, I'm spending a lot of time on the telephone to NYC. > After a pretty exhaustive evaluation of AT&T, Sprint and MCI we found > the lowest we could get was 23.7 cents per minute peak on AT&T. LDDS > claims to charge 15 cents per minute with a one year commitment > (includes a 90-day out clause). I talked to AT&T and they're pulling > the "we're regulated and can't compete with those numbers" routine. My company uses LDDS as our LD provider. They helped us set up a T1 with a Newbridge channelbank. Our average phone bill is over $3,000 for long distance only. They are giving us the BEST prices of anyone on the market. Our representative is supremely easy to deal with anytime I have questions about our service. We are paying anywhere between $0.075/min. to $0.145/min. Forget the big three ... they just can't come close. kyle sloan sloan@qns.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:30:56 EST From: Bob Keller Subject: Re: FCC PCS Auction Information On Thu, 19 Jan 1995, Willis H. Ware wrote: > Your discussion of PCS services in the recent T-COM Digest was very > interesting. Thank you. > Your discussion of PCS services in the recent TELECOM Digest was very > interesting. Did I not understand correctly that the GATT legislation > had some sweetheart deals in it apropos of the licenses issued for this > service? Yes and No. See the discussion below. > If this is correct, perhaps some clarifying discussion in the > Digest would be of general interest. Prior to the time Congress granted the FCC auction authority (at which such time the FCC realized it was quite possible that mutually exclusive PCS applications would have to processed via lotteries and/or comparative hearings), the FCC had tentatively decided to award "pioneer's preferences" to three companies: American Personal Communications (APC), Cox Cable Communications, Inc. (Cox), Omnipoint Communications, Inc. (Omnipoint). The pioneer's preference program was an ill-conceived (IMHO) policy designed to reward companies that expended resources developing and advancing new and innovative services and technologies. The pioneer's preferences in PCS were awarded to APC for its development and demonstration of PCS/microwave spectrum sharing technologies, to Cox for its development and demonstration of PCS/cable plant interface technology, and to Omnipoint for its development of 2 GHz PCS equipment. As originally conceived, these pioneer's preferences awards would have meant a "free" license for each of these companies, i.e., they would not have had to take their chances in a lottery. It was decided that 30 MHz licenses would be given to APC for the Washington/Baltimore MTA, to Cox for the Los Angeles/San Diego MTA, and to Omnipoint for the New York MTA. That is why, even though their are 51 MTAs, there are only 99 (rather than 102) licenses up for grabs in the Blocks A and B auction currently underway. But then came the legislation authorizing and (in the case of PCS) requiring auctions. The Commission decided to go back to the drawing board to consider whether the awards made any sense in that context. They eventually decided that the awards would stand, but that APC, Cox, and Omnipoint would each have to pay an amount discounted from the winning bid for comparable licenses in the auction. YAWN ... yes, I am getting to GATT ... be patient . Almost no one was happy with this arrangement. Not potential PCS players who saw three lucrative licenses slipping away with no opportunity to bid on them, not the "pioneers" who were now going to have to pay for licenses they thought they were getting for free, and probably not even the FCC staff who had to listen to all the bitching and moaning. Anyway, the whole mess got stuck into legislation ratifying the Paraguay Rounds of GATT (Don't you just love the Congressional process). Congress blessed the awards and promulgated a formula for calculating how much the pioneers would have to pay. In December of last year, after the GATT legislation, the Commission finally granted the three Block A licenses to APC, Cox, and Omnipoint. These license grants are subject to several conditions, including (1) that each licensee construct a system in the specified MTA substantially using the technology on which its pioneers' preference was based, (2) that each licensee retain control for at least three years after initial licensing or until it has met its five-year build-out requirement, and (3) that each licensee pay to the US Treasury an amount equal to 85% of the adjusted value of the license. Payments will be made over a five year period. Essentially, the GATT legislation requires each of the three pioneers to pay 85% of the adjusted value of its license. The adjusted value will be calculated as follows: At the conclusion of the current Broadband auctions, the FCC will determine the average per pop price for the 20 largest MTAs other than the three in question, and then apply that per pop average to the three MTAs. However, the Commission is required to collect a minimum of $400 Million. If the amount derived by applying the adjustment formula minus 85% is less than $400 Million, the difference is to be spread over the three markets in question on the basis of their relative population. FWIW, the total high bids for the Block B licenses in these three markets currently stands at approximately $760.4 Million. Bob Keller (KY3R) Email: rjk@telcomlaw.com Law Office of Robert J. Keller, P.C. Telephone: 301.229.5208 Federal Telecommunications Law Facsimile: 301.229.6875 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:47:19 CST From: Andrew C. Green Subject: Re: Cattle Call > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A couple of questions for whoever knows > the answers ... is it hard to train a cow to respond to your call? Is > there some sort of protective covering for the pager to keep it out > of the rain and water, etc? Never mind that; I want to know how they push the little button! Andy ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #48 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa14240; 20 Jan 95 2:29 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA21307; Thu, 19 Jan 95 22:09:08 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA21300; Thu, 19 Jan 95 22:09:03 CST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 22:09:03 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501200409.AA21300@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #49 TELECOM Digest Thu, 19 Jan 95 22:09:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 49 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson North Korea Holds US Representative Over $10K Phone Bill (Paul Robinson) Conference/Class/Training on Switching Technology? (shah@wg.com) Inslaw and the United States Justice Department (Paul Robinson) Remote Monitoring With Pagers (Cliff Scheller) Looking for Fax-Related URLs (George Pajari) Considering Purchasing an IVR System From InterVoice (Steve Samler) TNPP Standard Wanted (Marty Lawlor) CID Question (Stan Schwartz) Re: Programmable Touch-Tone Interpreter Needed (Paul A. Lee) Re: Small Business PBX/Fax Back Server Needed (Paul A. Lee) Flat Rate LD? (John McDermott) Information Needed on Cebit (Mat Watkins) Format of Telephone Number/Fax Numbers in Germany, France, UK (Tom Barrett) Re: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) (Judith Oppenheimer) 91x (was: 911 Providers: Watch For 912 Calls) (Carl Moore) Re: New Area Codes Working From Toronto (Michael King) Re: Looking up Addresses and Numbers From Just Names (Wes Leatherock) Re: T1BBS Gone? (Jim Burkitt) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 14:46:30 EST From: Paul Robinson Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA Subject: North Korea Holds US Representative Over $10K Phone Bill In Jack Anderson's column today, he reports that when Representative Bill Richardson (D-New Mexico) tried to cross the DMZ (Demilitarized Zone) between North and South Korea, with the casket carrying the remains of Chief Warrant Officer David Hilemon, North Korean officials refused to let him cross until the bill was paid. In Cash. "Although North Korea remains stauchly Communist, it showed a decidedly capialistic streak when it came to the phone bill." Anderson's column reports. The U.S. Military and State Department gathered money from government funds to pay the bill. Because American companies are prohibited from doing business there, no telephone connections exist between the US and North Korea, so the 23 calls Richardson made to the State Department and to families of the two pilots in the downed aircraft had to be relayed throgh Canada at significant expense. It is known the calls had to be made on nonsecure phone lines and were almost certainly recorded by the North Koreans. New trade agreements will allow phone links to be opened by the end of the month. Richardson's involvement in the incident was a fortunate coincidence as he was there to discuss the issue of North Korean posession of Nuclear Weapons. His intervention is also credited in preventing copilot Bobby Hill from suffering starvation, beating and torture, and in helping to secure his release. $10,000 is about eight times North Korea's per capita yearly income. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They don't need any collection agencies over there do they? Just keep the people there until they pay their bills. Remind me not to go visit there anytime soon! I would never get back home. PAT] ------------------------------ From: shah@wg.com Subject: Conference/Class/Training on Switching Technology? Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 14:26:02 PDT Organization: Wandel & Goltermann Technologies Folks, I am looking for a training/conference/formal class on switching technology. If any of you know of some good place -- PLEASE let me know directly as I don't read this newsgroup too often. The main focus is on learning what/how/who/testing of the switching technology. This may involve either a general overview or specific to Ethernet or Token Ring or ATM etc. Thank you, Ajay (shah@wg.com) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 20:39:05 EST From: Paul Robinson Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA Subject: Inslaw and the United States Justice Department [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This was sent to Paul, and he is passing it along to us. Nothing new here, we discussed this a couple years ago in the Digest. PAT] > I cought the end of an NPR story on Inslaw. I thought this would > be the place to find out about it. The story was a little shocking > to say the least. Had Big-Bro stamped on it. Inslaw was the name of a company that developed a computer program called Promis, to manage caselaw for the Department of Justice until, in the words of a Bankruptcy Court Judge, "The Department of Justice used its ability to withhold payments in a deliberate effort to drive Inslaw into bankruptcy, and to steal the Promis software from Inslaw." Another court discarded the bankruptcy court's decision saying it lacked the power to impose punitive damages for driving someone into bankruptcy. A reporter was investigating this issue, when he was found dead in a motel room in West Virginia, under suspicious circumstances, which the local police conveniently called 'suicide'. This is the same organization that is supposed to investigate allegations of unauthorized possession of copyrighted software, that is itself believed to be the largest pirator of software in the government. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Oh sure, we knew this. The US Department of Justice is one of the most corrupt organizations anywhere. Pirated software, murders labeled 'suicide', bribery, its all routine for 'Justice', an oddly named organization if there ever was one. We discussed the Inslaw matter here about two years ago. Another of their gimmicks reminds me of the late J. Edgar Hoover, for many years director of the FBI: A closet homosexual, he found out which other top government executives were the 'same way' and then he blackmailed them; threatened them with exposure if they did not run things the way he liked. Today's Justice Department is much the same. For instance, for how many ever years it was known in certain circles that a federal judge -- a black judge in fact, but I won't say his name, why bother now -- was a pedophile. One day investigators snooping around in the judge's chambers found enough evidence to send the judge away to prison for a long time; i.e. kiddy porn stuff. Instead a 'key Justice Department person' (at the time, several years ago) sat down and had a chat with the judge. For years after that, anytime the department had a pornography through the mail case or they wanted to prosecute on interstate pornography charges, or violations of the Mann Act or similar, guess which judge always somehow got the cases assigned to him. Guess how he always ruled. The IRS operates the same way. They find a federal judge who himself was -- to put it kindly -- lax and careless about properly paying his own taxes. They have a little chat, and then they use that judge for all their 'tax resistor' cases. Not bad, huh! PAT] ------------------------------ From: cliffsch@netcom.com (Cliff Scheller) Subject: Remote Monitoring With Pagers Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:20:55 GMT Did you know that a PBX can send text messages to any Alpha Pager? ( ...alot of your other equipment can, too!) AlphaSense is a standalone electronic product which is easily connected to many different types of equipment or machinery to provide an unattended monitoring function. When user-specified conditions occur, it automatically creates and delivers text messages to any alpha pager(s). A trusted resource in many industries, it can also _selectively forward_ data from your computerized or other automation devices to people's pagers. Use it to monitor PBX's, CSU's, network servers, fire panels, HVAC systems, water levels, machine operation, security systems, etc. Internal "UPS" gives continued operation if power fails. Eight sensor inputs, power fail/restore monitoring & self-test messages. Plus, its RS-232 serial port connects to printers, computers and other automation equipment. AlphaSense will monitor data streams, watching for user-specified keywords. When received, they "trigger" AlphaSense, and it can then forward data directly from your data source to Pagers! Forward error messages, email, instructions, financial data, etc. Dial-back mode for remote teleservice use, activity history log and many other features! For more info, send email to compuquest-request@netcom.com with only these two lines as the message body: SEND ASINFO ...or ftp to: ftp.netcom.com, in directory /ftp/pub/cl/cliffsch ------------------------------ From: pajari@Faximum.COM (George Pajari) Subject: Looking for Fax-Related URLs Reply-To: faxfaq@Faximum.COM (FAQ Comments) Organization: Faximum Software, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:35:32 GMT The FAQ for comp.dcom.fax is currently being rewritten in HTML and will shortly be available for Web browsing. To assist with this it would be appreciated if readers could forward to faxfaq@faximum.com any interesting fax or telco related URLs for inclusion in the "hyperFAQ". I am particularly interested in Home Pages and FTP sites for vendors of modems, fax boards, fax equipment, and fax software. Your assistance is much appreciated. (Should you wish to browse the current, flat text version of the fax FAQ, please see ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/fax-faq/part1 and part2.) Regards, pajari@Faximum.COM -*- Editor of the comp.dcom.fax FAQ George Pajari / Faximum Software / Tel: +1 (604) 925-3600 / Fax: ... 926-8182 1497 Marine Drive, Suite 300 / West Vancouver, BC / Canada V7T 1B8 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:17:01 EST From: Steve Samler Subject: Considering Purchasing an IVR System From InterVoice Does anyone have any experience with these people (good, bad or indifferent)? Has anyone negotiated a price with these folks recently? How far can I push them on price? ------------------------------ From: Marty Lawlor Subject: TNPP Standard Wanted Organization: Northern Telecom Inc., D&OS Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 15:35:23 GMT I have been unsuccessful locating a copy of the Telocator Network Paging Protocol (TNPP) standard or specification. I believe it is issued by POCSAG (Post Office Code Standards Advisory Group). This may be a British organization. I've called several standards jobbers (e.g., IHS) to no avail, and my calls to Telocator: The Personal Communications Industry Assn have gone unanswered. This appears to be an ubiquitous (and, at least, American) de facto standard for sending and receiving paging messages. Any help in locating this would be greatly appreciated. Marty Lawlor Northern Telecom TEL: 716-654-2422 NET: mel@cci.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:58:40 EST From: Stan Schwartz Subject: CID Question I have recently begun using TotalTel as a secondary LD carrier (by signing up for secondary service and a calling card). They had to add all the lines that I wanted to be able to access their service (by using the 10081 prefix) before I was able to use them as a secondary carrier. One of the lines I added is in the 516-752 exchange, which has not been upgraded for CLASS (NYNEX PhoneSmart) services. Local (seven-digit) calls from this number to CID-enabled areas of the LATA return "OUT OF AREA" on the box on the receiving end. HOWEVER ... if I dial 10081 + NPA + NXX + XXXX, the call is completed with CID information provided at the receiving end! Any ideas on what they are doing here? On their 800 service, TotalTel also seems to translate the ANI of the calling party and delivers it as CID information on the receiving end. When I use their 800-number-access calling card, they also transmit the ANI of the phone I'm calling from to CID at the other end. Kind of neat, if you ask me! Any thoughts on this? Stan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:27:47 -0500 From: Paul A. Lee Organization: Woolworth Corporation Subject: Re: Programmable Touch-Tone Interpreter Needed In TELECOM Digest Volume 15 Issue 33, Jeffrey A. Porten wrote (in part): > I need help in coming up with a solution for a client. She wants to > provide her incoming callers with a automated system that will allow > them to schedule time with her by using a touch-tone phone, similar to > the system that Amtrak uses to tell people about the trains closest to > their selected travel time. This is a description of 'classic' DTMF-driven interactive voice response (IVR). Depending on the intricacy of the application(s), the call volume to be handled, and the number of lines coming in, IVR can run on anything from a $300 board in a PC up to large, proprietary, multiprocessor boxes. There are literally hundreds of manufacturers, integrators, software developers, and VARs that do this for a living. Give some more details on what call volume needs to be handled, what environment the system must operate in, and what kind of budget you're working with, and I should be able to point you in the right direction. Paul A. Lee Voice 414 357-1409 Telecommunications Analyst FAX 414 357-1450 Woolworth Corporation CompuServe 70353,566 INTERNET <=PREFERRED ADDRESS* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:28:22 -0500 From: Paul A. Lee Organization: Woolworth Corporation Subject: Re: Small Business PBX/Fax Back Server Needed In TELECOM Digest Volume 14 Issue 43, Jon Zeeff wrote (in part): > I'm looking for a PBX/Fax back/voice mail system that would do the > following: > Connect to approx 4 POTS lines for incoming calls and have various > facilities when you call in. > The more flexible and programmable, the better. Check out the Dash Open Phone System. Dash is in Lenexa, KS; voice phone is 800-844-7620 and Faxback is 913 888-7902. Paul A. Lee Voice 414 357-1409 Telecommunications Analyst FAX 414 357-1450 Woolworth Corporation CompuServe 70353,566 INTERNET <=PREFERRED ADDRESS* ------------------------------ From: jjm@usa.net (John McDermott/J-K International Limited) Subject: Flat Rate LD? Date: 19 Jan 1995 12:23:07 -0700 Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) In another newsgroup I recently saw an ad for US$149 for all the Long Distance I could use in a month. That could be a lot if I used it for an Internet connection ... are such offers legit? Does anyone use such a service, particularly for modem calls? I know that "If it sounds too good to be true ...", but I have seen things like this before, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks, john jjm@jkintl.com [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: That particular offer which you saw in 'another newsgroup' was very questionable. There were a number of eyebrows raised partly because of things to do with how payment was to be tendered each month, etc. You used to be able to get flat rate packages for WATS and IN-WATS from AT&T a number of years ago. You bought a certain number of hours per month at a set price, but it did not come in the range of $149.00. Maybe AT&T still sells WATS in blocks of time, I don't know. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Mat Watkins Subject: Information Needed on Cebit Date: 19 Jan 1995 19:47:30 GMT Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand. Hi all, I am wanting to go to Cebit this year. I have found out that it starts on 8th March in Hanover but do not have any information on registration etc. Can anyboby help? Thanks in advance. Regards, Matt Victoria University of Wellington ------------------------------ From: tjbarre@srv.PacBell.COM (Tom Barrett) Subject: Format of Telephone Number/Fax Numbers in Germany, France, UK Date: 19 Jan 1995 20:50:47 GMT Organization: Pacific * Bell I've been asked about the format of telephone numbers and fax numbers in the three countries above ... specifically if fax numbers in these countries have different numbers of digits than a phone number in the same locale? Thanks in advance for any assistance, tjb ------------------------------ From: producer@pipeline.com (Judith Oppenheimer) Subject: Re: Attention: 800 Number Subscribers (News Alert) Date: 19 Jan 1995 11:49:22 -0500 Organization: Interactive CallBrand(TM) cmylod@nl.oracle.com (Colum Mylod) wrote: > Dik.Winter@cwi.nl wrote: >> Why would any European customer wish numbers like 800 THE CARD, unless >> they expect most of their traffic from the US? >> In Europe letters are *not* used. And when they were used assignment >> was not identical to the US assignment. See the Telecom Archives for >> an article were I gave some European assignments. > Ah but Dik, British Telecom intends to reintroduce letters in phone > numbers (they've been on various phone units for a long while -- > imports mainly). Even in non-English Europe you'll see them back if > for no other reason than introducing variety in freephone numbers. > Currently a lot of European (monopoly) telcos issue patterned numbers > like 123456 or 876 876 etc. Having letters ups the 'saleable" > freephone number combinations. Remember, too, that international freephone numbers will *co-exist* with domestic toll-free numbers in the U.S.. So there will be 1 800 FLOWERS, and 011 800 FLOWERS, both of which can be called and advertised within the United States, but which may reach competing companies! (If not for European interest in these opportunities, grandfathering of U.S. numbers would not even be an issue.) If the U.S. position, and U.S. Users Group Position, of grandfathering existing U.S. 800 numbers is not aggressively supported by U.S. 800 subscribers, these companies will find they have a 50-50 chance of winning -- or losing -- their branded number to a lottery, and competition for the same customers and marketshare in the U.S., and abroad. > According to a brief glimpse I got at uk.telecom (is this available > via listserv anyone?), BT will use the same letters-numbers pattern as > the Bell one but with Z added to the 9 key and Q on 0 The Q goes on the 7. The Z goes on the 9. Judith Oppenheimer, Producer@Pipeline.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 23:19:09 GMT From: Carl Moore Subject: 91x (was: 911 Providers: Watch For 912 Calls) sewilco@fieldday.mn.org (Scot E. Wilcoxon) writes: > As has been reported before, some older switches will connect to 911 > when "91x" is dialed. What areas would have this? Did this definition of 91x have to be removed (except for 911) from some switches to accommodate N0X/N1X prefixes? From what you have given me, I take it this problem might still have to be considered in some places, even with area codes now generalized. Also, some area codes used the now-obsolete method of "area code + seven digits" (no leading 1) to make long distance calls, and I take it the above-mentioned switches did not occur in such areas. (For example, 912-xxx-xxxx would have been used for calls to area 912 in Georgia, and then 912 could not go to emergency services, barring some messy timeout feature.) ------------------------------ From: an904@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael King) Subject: Re: New Area Codes Working From Toronto Date: 20 Jan 1995 02:24:13 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Reply-To: an904@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael King) In a previous article, cmoore@ARL.MIL (Carl Moore) says: > So you were able to get a Seattle number from 360 directory assistance. > Maybe 360-555-1212 is at least temporarily being routed identically to > 206-555-1212. As of this evening (Thursday 1/19), only AC 334 was dialable from both metro Atlanta (western 'burbs) and within the city of Atlanta proper. Neither 360 nor 630 is accessable -- I get a "you do not need an area code" message from here for both area codes when trying to get directory assistance. Michael King -- General Manager WIGO/AM - Atlanta Morning Talk Show Host & Chief Cook & Bottle Washer ------------------------------ From: wes.leatherock@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 20:03:15 Subject: Re: Looking up Addresses and Phone Number From Just Names Quoting timb@europa.com (Tim Bach): > I have a bunch of names I need addresses and phone numbers to. > They are all mostly in the same local calling area. Is there a > service or product I can buy that will allow me to take a ASCII > file of names and have it try and lookup the addresses plus > phone numbers? > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I don't know how many you think > is a 'bunch', but unless it is really a lot, and you plan to do > this on a frequent basis, why don't you ask the telco serving > the local calling area for a copy of their directory. Most > telcos will send it free of charge, or they may get some small > handling/postage fee. Then you would sit there and look them up. > After you have found all you can, then call AC-555-1212 for the > (hopefully) few remaining names. PAT] I would respectfully suggest that most telephone companies will NOT give or send a directory free of charge; they haven't usually done so since divestiture. A biproduct, however, has been telephone directories on microfiche. I believe these were probably started -- or at least became popular -- when telephone companies stopped providing directories at no charge to libraries. The Oklahoma City Public Library used to have a very extensive library of telephone directories from throughout the United States and Canada, and pretty extensive coverage of the rest of the world. They don't have those now, of course, since they can't afford what it would cost (many thousand of dollars a month keeping them up to date). But they do have telephone directories from the United States on microfiche, put out by a firm called University Microfilms, Inc., which I believe produces all kinds of useful microfiche. The telephone directories on microfiche are available to all users of the library at no charge, just like other materials, and cover most of the United States (with the exception of some GTE exchanges like the Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater area). Probably your library has those, too, and it would be quicker and less hassle just to look them up there, unless your "bunch" is really a huge number. Wes Leatherock wes.leatherock@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu wes.leatherock@f2001.n147.z1.fidonet.org [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The Chicago Public Library has over a hundred years of telephone directories from Chicago on microfilm put out by the company you mentioned, University Microfilms of Ann Arbor, Michigan. I don't know what connection they have with the University of Michigan, if any. They also have the Haines Crisscross Directories for Chicago going back about 40 years, and these can be very useful tools when looking for people who were around long ago. CPL has all the suburban phone books going back about 50-60 years also, both from Illinois Bell and its predecessor Chicago Telephone Company as well as Centel (which long ago was known as Central States Telephone Company.) There used to be a publication called the 'Chicago City Directory' and they have quite a few of those also from the past. Unfortunatly the City Directory ceased publication in 1921. They have the actual 1921 book, but the years prior to that are on microfilm. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jan 1995 15:26:15 GMT From: JIM BURKIT Subject: Re: T1BBS Gone? Mark Fraser asked: > Pat: > It's been a while since I last tried, but both of the net addresses > 192.187.216.5 and ....3 don't return a ping, nor respond to telnet/ftp > respectively. Likewise, phone calls to the previously published modem > numbers don't give much satisfaction. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, I'm afraid I cannot be much help > on this personally. Maybe others have the answer. PAT] The Committee T1 BBS moved in October 1994. I guess Pat doesn't remember all the articles that he publishes as he did publish one notice of the move. When T1BBS was moved a number of improvements were made. The biggest one was upgrading from 9.6 Kb to 56 Kb internet access. T1BBS is a BBS that committee T1 uses to help it develop standards. Anyone that has a interest in the Telecommunications standards that we develop is allowed to use the system. The primary system uses PCBoard software with a mirrored unix ftp site. You can access the system by: modem +1 202-639-4469 telnet telnet.t1.org ftp ftp.t1.org www www.t1.org (under construction) The system operator can be reached at sysop@t1.org. Note in the above site names that the number 1 is used not the letter l. I hope this helps. Jim Burkitt T1X1 Chair [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: No, unfortunatly I cannot nearly begin to remember all the articles which are published here unless I use the index to search through the titles, etc. PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #49 ***************************** Received: from delta.eecs.nwu.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa15826; 20 Jan 95 3:31 EST Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22749; Thu, 19 Jan 95 23:31:10 CST Return-Path: Received: by delta.eecs.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0-proxy) id AA22737; Thu, 19 Jan 95 23:31:07 CST Date: Thu, 19 Jan 95 23:31:07 CST From: telecom@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Digest (Patrick Townson)) Message-Id: <9501200531.AA22737@delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V15 #50 TELECOM Digest Thu, 19 Jan 95 23:31:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 50 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Updated Earthquake Report - Friday Morning (Stephen Anderson/Ando Eiichi) Re: Horrible Earthquake in Japan (moshtr@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com) Japanese Quake News (Steve Samler) Cellular Fraud: How Much of it is Real Money? (Paul Robinson) Re: Privately Owned Cables on Public Utility Poles (Mark Fletcher) Re: Is the Pentium Bug Really That Bugging? (Clifton T. Sharp) Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio (Clifton T. Sharp) Re: Cattle Call (John Dearing) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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I suspect it must be awfully hard for Stephen Anderson and others to write about. The news simply gets worse and worse and worse as each day passes. Those poor people ... Thursday I ran into an aquaintance of a short time, a Japanese student living in Chicago. He knows people living in Kobe, and told me of his anxiety in being unable to reach them by phone this week. He has no idea if they survived or not. And there are many others like him here in the USA in school. I felt such a sense of frustration and helplessness after speaking with him. PAT] ------------------ Here is the updated report. ______________________________________________ Eiichi Ando Salomon Brothers Asia Limited Tokyo Branch Business Technology Organization - Production - Wide Area Network Group Tel : +813-5255-5238 Fax: +813-5255-5585 E-mail : eando@tokyo.sbi.com TOKYO, Japan - The Southern Hyogo Prefecture Earthquake in western Japan struck at 5:46 AM JST on January 17, 1995. The quake was the worst such disaster in Japan since 1948 and caused unexpected deaths and destruction. The following summary on the emergency from the Inforum Project at GLOCOM was first compiled after one day of local reports in Tokyo, and updated on January 20 from journalist and academic sources as well as local interviews. The death toll of over four thousand was worse than first reported and damage estimates range from 3-8 trillion yen ($30-80 billion). The Tuesday quake measured 7.2 on the Richter scale and 6 on the Japanese scale that peaks at 7. The epicenter was 12.5 miles under the island of Awaji in the Inland Sea off the coast from Kobe, but the worst destruction ran along a northeastern fault on the coast up from the Kobe port to the Takarazuka area closer to Osaka. Osaka, as Japan's second largest city, and Kyoto and Shiga, further to the northeast with extensive museums and temples, also reported extensive damage from the quake. In Japan, all observers are shocked by the death and destruction. The National Police Agency reported 4047 confirmed deaths, and 727 missing along with 21,671 injury victims. The total dead and missing (about 4774) make this quake the worst since the June 28,1948 quake in Fukui Prefecture that killed 3895 according to the Asahi Nenkan. The total dead and missing is not as great as the 1923 Great Kanto Earthquake that killed over one hundred forty-two thousand people, but the extent of damage is great. Note that the wire services carried glaring errors in their historical data on previous quakes, but the point is correct that this is a major disaster. Within Japan, the media did not always agree on details, but overall the journalists were highly professional as they covered uncontrolled fires, derailed trains, and collapsed expressways in extra-edition newspapers and during all night coverage on television. Among the media coverage, television was by far the leading source for current information. Public television on NHK was careful, and tended to underestimate deaths and missing. Yet the expert commentary on NHK was frank, self-critical, and precise as much of the material from Kobe including helicopter shots meant that NHK gave the most comprehensive coverage. However, private stations also broadcast alternative coverage that gave images of utter destruction and scenes resembling war zones. A lasting image came from a local TV newscaster who grew up in Kobe and walked among the downtown ruins that left him, at one point, speechless and at the point of tears. Japanese citizens are especially distraught by the failures of prevention and warning. The wire services made Associated Press file an accurate story about the population's loss of faith in technology. Compared to Los Angeles in 1994 and San Francisco in 1989, Kobe and its population of 1.4 million people suffered far more extensive damage. No block of city was spared some destruction with many buildings leaning on their foundation. Many professors of engineering and construction experts are making statements to the press and on television about their miscalculations. The collapse of elevated expressways and railway bridges will take much time to rebuild, and the homeless in smaller wooden dwellings and larger high rises will need immediate shelter from near-freezing temperatures. Many local people are bitter that the Tokyo area received attention and warnings, but no such forecast was ever made for this southern Hyogo quake. Specialists have lost confidence in their forecasts about location and construction for earthquakes. Severe quakes have hit northern Japan as well as Kobe, but none have occurred near Shizuoka or Tokyo where quake experts predicted. Also, engineers who looked at Japanese standards as the highest in the world must now reassess their ideas about bridges, roads, and buildings. In the U.S., Los Angeles and San Francisco officials emulated Japanese building standards said to protect against 8.3 magnitude quakes of the 1923 Kanto scale, but they must now reconsider the extent of damage to Kobe-area expressways and railroads. At the moment, Japanese officials are skeptical about creating economically viable standards that can withstand a quake such as yesterday. Such standards allowed Kobe to create two large developments on landfill, but these areas suffered broken surfaces, flooding, and sludge or mud holes where their buildings sank into the bay. Politicians and civil servants moved to reassure the population. The Prime Minister, Tomiichi Murayama, was quoted by wire services as focusing on minimizing the damages, while waiting to blame or to analyze all the causes. Murayama visited the area of Awajishima and Kobe on Thursday, January 19. The Land Agency moved to provide disaster relief and local governments lent supplies. Local TV in Tokyo area covered a fleet of Yokohama city water trucks as they left to drive to the west. Though preparations were extensive, an estimate 100,000 people spent the near-freezing (zero Celsius) night in parks, automobiles, schools, or public buildings. The shaking and aftershocks continue. The initial shaking of about 20 seconds and several weaker quakes continue to hit the region. Experts estimate that restoring the basic services of electricity (one week), water (two weeks) and gas (one month) will keep life from normal. Construction of transportation and buildings will of course take much longer. The financial damage is extensive but difficult to determine. Economists note that the total impact is severe. Estimates range from $30 to $80 billion, but the exact estimates are unclear. The Hyogo governor has asked for four trillion yen (about $40 billion), Other economic impacts are mixed. In Tokyo, insurance company stocks are down, but construction, concrete, and glass stocks are up. Damage in Osaka closed Japan's second-largest stock market and the Kansai area will face major disruptions. Of course, Kobe is a port, export-hub, shipbuilding and steel-manufacturing center, as well as a historic international city. Kobe also handles 12 percent of Japan's exports. The damages to this area, and its people, will likely leave a major mark not just on the economy, but also on the future of Japanese society as a whole. by Stephen J. Anderson (anderson@glocom.ac.jp) Inforum Project Director The Center for Global Communications (GLOCOM) Associate Professor International University of Japan (IUJ) For more information, write to: Stephen J. Anderson (anderson@glocom.ac.jp) Inforum Project Director The Center for Global Communications (GLOCOM) Associate Professor International University of Japan (IUJ) Fax: (81-3) 5412-7111, Phone: (81-3) 5411-6677 1F, 6-15-21 Roppongi, Minato-ku, Tokyo 106 JAPAN ------------------------------ From: moshtr@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com (Ramin) Subject: Re: Horrible Earthquake in Japan Date: 19 Jan 1995 16:42:13 GMT Organization: Alcatel Network Systems Inc. Reply-To: moshtr@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com It is unfortunate that under such conditions even the new wireless (Cellular) technology does not completely survive the distruction. In both Anlog and Digital cellular applications only the user access interface is wireless. The connections from the cell sites (base stations) to cell cite controllers and the wireless switch are usually via regular trunks (ie. T1). Based on my past experience, I don't remember seeing much redundancy designed in Base station to Cell cite controller links. Ramin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 12:11:31 EST From: Steve Samler Subject: Japanese Quake News NTT has repaired most of the switchboards. Large number of customer lines remain off. AS of 2000 GMT 9,000 circuits in Chuo ward in Kobe out. Calls are being relayed from emergency phones using satellites. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 22:11:56 EST From: Paul Robinson Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA Subject: Cellular Fraud: How Much of it is Real Money? I'm going to raise an issue here because I think it relates to the issue of why nothing beyond lip service seems to be done by carriers about cellular fraud. Let me explain that I'm not condoning the idea of cellular fraud, what I want to do is discover exactly where the numbers for the amount is coming from and what relationship to reality those numbers represent. I remember reading some seven years ago an article which someone had gotten permission to reprint out of a magazine that stated that because the ESN and MIN pairs are sent in clear the possibility for fraud was virtually unlimited. I got thinking about the issue and wondered: of the industry claimed more than $1 million a day in fraud that occurs, how much of this is real money, how much is it lost profits, and how much is sheer imagination? Let me give a brief example. Perhaps ten years ago when you went to a computer store and obtained a copy of a computer program, the price for that program was list price, say $400.00. Let say a legally purchased copy of that program was illegally copied by ten people. Let's take a wild guess and consider that perhaps two of these copies would never have been sold if the person couldn't get it for free because they would never have bought it at all. Let's say four of the copies might have been purchased at $200, and perhaps two of the copies might have been purchased at full list price if they hadn't gotten it for free. The actual 'cash losses' to the software company are zero. The amount of income it could have collected in this fictious example if their software hadn't been pirated is probably $1600. But in all probability the software company would claim that they lost $4,000 in sales of that program. Both of the $1600 and $4000 numbers are fiction however, they are only estimates of what _could_ have happened. Actual cash losses to the company are zero. If someone had stolen ten copies of the program off the shelf of the store, the store is out the cost of those copies, and it has actual cash losses. Now, let's look at cellular calls. For the purpose of this article, I'm going to use 50c a minute as the cost per minute of a cellular call, and 25c a minute additional as the long distance charge for long distance calls. There are typically plans to give an allocation of minutes to a customer and these reduce the cost to them. First, if someone has a cellular phone, and someone using an automated cellular MIN/ESN stealer puts ten minutes of fraudulent local call time on fifty phones, chances are those fifty subscribers are probably not going to notice they've been defrauded and end up paying for fraudulent charges. They have collectively been defrauded out of $250.00. Net loss to carrier: zero. If these users did not use up their allocation even including ten minutes of fraud, then the net loss to them is zero, too. I am wondering how much of the claimed $1 million a day is actual, real cash loss, how much is uncollected profit, how much is oppportunity cost, and how much is an estimate of unreported fraud. There are calls that someone might make over a cellular phone that they would never have made if they had to pay for it, because they couldn't afford it. There are calls that someone could have paid part of the cost for but didn't, and there are those who could have paid full retail price, but didn't want the calls to be traceable to them, possibly because they are involved in the sale of unauthorized dried vegetable extracts. There are several parts to the numbers involved. First is if a carrier was defrauded of charges on a roamer, the carrier is out actual cash it might have to pay the destination roam site for fraudulent calls and perhaps long distance charges. In such a case, the loss is the amount paid to the destination carrier and long distance company. In the case of cellular <-> cellular calls, the actual out of pocket cost to the company for such fraud is effectively nil. In the case of local calls, if calls are made on the wireline company's facilities, the amount lost might be the opportunity cost if it means that some calls could not be processed on the system due to fraudulent calls hogging channel space. This is not real money and is a guess at what might have been received. If it's a local call from the non-wireline company, they are out the individual cost per placed call (10c here because calls are untimed) or the local per-minute rate for calls inside that area that are timed. There are some additional costs for the people who have to handle cancellation of fraudulent charges and investigate this sort of thing, but that is part of the overhead. Some examples: - someone disputed 100 minutes of daytime mobile-mobile traffic on the same cellular system as fraudulent. The cellular company would claim that they have been defrauded of $50.00, claiming the 50c rate per minute for calls on their system. In this case their actual out of pocket loss is zero! - someone disputes a ten minute call from a Washington DC cell phone to Los Angeles. If the carrier includes long distance in his rates: he's out the cash price of the long distance call ($2.50), and the cellular per minute charge the customer would have paid ($7.50), for a loss of $10.00. His actual out of pocket losses are $2.50. If the carrier doesn't provide long distance in the call and the customer is billed directly, the carrier would claim to be out the per minute rate for calls of $5.00. His actual out of pocket losses are again, zero. - someone disputes a twenty minute call from an Arlington Va cell phone to a Washington, DC number. The carrier can claim his loss is the $10.00 in lost revenue plus the ten cent local termination charge. The actual cash loss to the carrier is the ten cent local termination charge he has to pay Bell Atlantic. Note that in these cases the claimed losses are 'phantom' losses based on lost revenue and / or lost profits and except as indicated do not depict the actual cash losses. There is some cost added due to fraud and some additional losses due to having to generate paperwork and account for the losses. This is not meant to condone cellular fraud or lessen the seriousness of preventing fraud against customers, but it is a point about looking at how much is real money lost, how much is opportunity cost, and how much is lost income. So that's the question that I'm wondering: of the claimed losses due to fraud of the cellular industry at some $1 million a day, how much of it is actual cash losses of fraudulent traffic which generates an accounts payable, and how much of it is lost profits and opportunity costs which are phantom numbers? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Does it matter, Paul? Does it really matter? Should stealing someone's 'profits' be any less severe an offense than stealing their actual cash? You may not be condoning cell- ular phone fraud, but you sure know how to speak the language of the phreaks and hackers. If I develop a concept or invent a device or otherwise devise something you could not possibly do on your own, and then I have the audacity to ask to be paid if you wish to benefit from my work, how can you say your refusal to pay me is any less wrong than taking a gun, holding it to my head and demanding my purse? It is not my duty to feed you; it is not the phone company's duty to provide you with an artificial speaking mechanism which allows your voice to carry further than it ever possibly could on its own; it is not the duty of the software publisher to do your thinking for you and provide you with answers. You say, 'but no one would have purchased it anyway, so there is no real loss if someone steals it ...'. That is baloney. Your payment of a fee for the services rendered is your recognition of the labor of others. If you cannot afford to buy software, then write your own. If you cannot afford a phone call, then send a letter, or go in person to communicate your message in your own voice. What others may or may not have purchased is of no consequence whatsoever. Don't ask for my labor and my brains and resourcefulness if you can't afford or don't wish to pay. Or better still, why not try being intellectually honest about the way you feel (I don't mean you personally, Paul) and just take a gun and go rob a 7/Eleven or a Quik-Mart on the way home. Then you will have money in your pocket you can use to purchase the kinds of things they were planning to purchase with the money. You'll even be able to pay for your own software and cellular phone calls. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:09:32 -0800 From: mfletch@ix.netcom.com (Mark Fletcher) Subject: Re: Privately Owned Cables on Public Utility Poles Glenn Foote glnfoote@freenet.columbus.oh.us wrote: > When I was a practicing consultant (now retired) I faced the same > problems with client applications. We were able to attach to the > existing poles for a minimum fee (about $1.50 per quarter, per > attachment [cable]). > There was no requirement for us (the client) to become a "utility". The > pole connection tariffs were published and/or negotiated as required. > (Some of the poles belonged to the municipality itself, and no tariffs > were filed for these.) > We installed fiber. To the best of my knowledge, the installation > is still working after 10+ years with NO outages save one, an airplane > crashed and took out a section of the cable. It was replaced within 24 > hours, without further incident. This seems to be the normal situation. $1.00 to $1.50 per month per attachment. Can any one point me in the proper direction to start? Where do we file the paperwork? I'm hesitant to let the RBOC know too much right away because they are about to lose $18,000 in income a year for about $1300 in attachment fees! Also many have asked if I can get dry circuits from the RBOC. It so happens that all of my circuits are direct point to point hard cut dry pairs. Other questions are how close am I to the central office or remote? I'm 237 ft. (I measured it, ha ha) from the ESS IV remote that services our area. Thanks so far for all of your help! Especially Jim at Halcyon! Mark Fletcher Communications Manager << The Great Gorge Resort >> 201 827-2000 Ext. 404 ------------------------------ From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp) Subject: Re: Is the Pentium Bug Really That Bugging? Organization: as little as possible Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 18:58:29 GMT In article laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence) writes: > The Pentium bug affects only floating-point calculations, not overall > system performance. Whether you NEED to have it replaced depends on > what type of work you do. Spreadsheets and mathematical modeling, and I disagree. Which application do you run on a computer from which you would accept an incorrect result? If the answer is "all of them", then you don't need your Pentium replaced. Otherwise ... Personally, I want a computer at least as consistently accurate as my $6 pocket calculator. Cliff Sharp WA9PDM clifto@indep1.chi.il.us ------------------------------ From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp) Subject: Re: Legal Problem Due to Modified Radio Organization: as little as possible Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 19:51:46 GMT In article ROsman@swri.edu writes: > Maybe someone already noticed this, but the officer involved has > provided sworn testimony indicating that he violated federal law. He > used the radio out-of-band on a channel for which it is not licensed. Very true! > A copy of the court transcript might interest the FCC's Chicago Field > Engineer. Uh, probably not. Chicago seems to take a "leave me alone" attitude, despite the promise of possibly very high assessments for Notices of Apparent Violation. Cliff Sharp WA9PDM clifto@indep1.chi.il.us ------------------------------ From: jdearing@netaxs.com (John Dearing) Subject: Re: Cattle Call Date: 20 Jan 1995 02:54:50 GMT Organization: Netaxs Internet BBS and Shell Accounts Thus spaketh our esteemed Moderator: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A couple of questions for whoever knows > the answers ... is it hard to train a cow to respond to your call? Is > there some sort of protective covering for the pager to keep it out > of the rain and water, etc? A cow sees no problem with standing out > in the field in the rain all day, or laying down on a muddy field to > rest. In the heat of the summer a herd of cows in a pasture with a > pond or lake will simply wander out into the pond and stand in water > up to their neck to stay cool and keep the flies away. How does the > pager withstand all this abuse? PAT] I saw the article (wish I'd saved it). They train *one* cow. Once one cow starts back to the barn, the rest follow. I guess they figure that this one must know something they don't! 8-) The pager (I don't think it is a garden variety pager but a special model) is in a special ruggedized case that protects it from the elements. The case is on some kind of chain/whatever around the cow's neck. This keeps the pager near their ears so they can clearly hear the page. When I read the article, I got a chuckle from it but also thought "What a neat way to apply technology!". John Dearing jdearing@netaxs.com ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #50 *****************************