Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 11:20:50 EST Errors-To: Comp-privacy Error Handler From: Computer Privacy Digest Moderator To: Comp-privacy@PICA.ARMY.MIL Subject: Computer Privacy Digest V3#061 Computer Privacy Digest Tue, 26 Oct 93 Volume 3 : Issue: 061 Today's Topics: Moderator: Dennis G. Rears Nov. 17 program: ACRL/NY symposium Re: Worse Than Billboards Re: Finding someone Re: Finding someone Re: Finding someone Re: Finding someone Re: Digital Detective At Your Service isn't one's diary considered "private" ?? Items from Monterey County Coast Weekly The Computer Privacy Digest is a forum for discussion on the effect of technology on privacy. The digest is moderated and gatewayed into the USENET newsgroup comp.society.privacy (Moderated). Submissions should be sent to comp-privacy@pica.army.mil and administrative requests to comp-privacy-request@pica.army.mil. Back issues are available via anonymous ftp on ftp.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.133]. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 13:38:43 -0400 (EDT) From: RANDORF@medlib.hscbklyn.edu Subject: Nov. 17 program: ACRL/NY symposium If you are in the greater New York City area, you won't want to miss the November 17th (Wednesday) Annual Symposium. The Symposium theme is "Developing a National Information Policy & Infrastructure: Building Powerful Partnerships." Speakers will present a variety of perspectives on the developing national information scene including those from higher education, libraries, business and government. The Symposium will give us all an opportunity to hear timely presentations from those who are actively engaged in creating the "on ramps for the data superhighway." Legislative initiatives, funding and access issues, strategies for working with private and public sector interests will be part of the learning experience for those attending the Symposium. Speakers are: Carol Henderson, Deputy Executive Director of ALA's Washington Office; Jean Armour Polly, Manager, Network Development & User Training, NYSERnet, Ira H. Fuchs, President of CREN (Corporation for Research and Educational Networking and Vice-President for Computing and Information Technology at Princeton; Elizabeth Buffum, Director of the U.S. Dept. of Energy's Office of Scientific and Technical Information; Nancy Kranich, Associate Dean of Libraries, New York University; Herbert Schiller, author and Visiting Professor in NYU's Culture & Communication Program. In addition to presentations, the Symposium will include a panel format so that our speakers can engage in a lively discussion of the issues as well as invite the audience to bring questions for consideration. The all-day Symposium will be held at the Fashion Institute of Technology, 7th Avenue at 27th Street in Manhattan; pre-registration until Nov 8th: $35 for chapter members and $40 for nonmembers ($5 additional at the door); includes lunch. Members of ACRL/NY and other local library associations will receive a registration brochure in the mail. If you do not receive a registration brochure by October 22nd, please request one from Janet Wagner, Hofstra University Library; e-mail (librfjsw@vaxc.hofstra.edu) or fax (516-560- 7679). ------------------------------ From: "Ron A. Hudson" Subject: Re: Worse Than Billboards Date: 21 Oct 1993 21:40:12 GMT Organization: Intel Architecture Labs, Santa Clara CA John Higdon (john@zygot.ati.com) wrote: > On Oct 12 at 16:27, Computer Privacy Digest Moderator writes: > > Subject: Digital Detective At Your Service > I never thought that I would have to see this ad here in addition to > everywhere else. Are your advertising rates reasonable? I run an IP B > [Moderator's Note: I'e received many complaints about this one. This is > one where I wasn't paying attention. I was gone for about 10 days > and really just looked at the headers as opposed to the body of the > article. ._dennis ] I think even though it may be advertising, It's a good thing to know that: a) Other people can get the 'dirt' on me through this service and b) I can get my own 'dirt' and see if it is correct and c) I can play like the 'big boys' and get the 'dirt' on others (perhaps event the 'big boys' themselves) May be an ad, but it's an informative one... :) -- ============================================================================= Ron Hudson, Currently a novell system administrator at INTEL All views expressed are my own, I don't know if Intel agrees or not.. ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal From: jt -- John Thompson Subject: Re: Finding someone Followup-To: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal Organization: Honeywell Inc. Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 22:43:20 GMT Larry Kolodney (lkk@panix.com) wrote: : In Rajiv A Manglani writes: : >I am trying to find a lost relative. All I have is his name, birth date, and : >social security number. How might I get an address or phone number? : There are many private companies that will do this for about $200. : One is called Equifax. Another is People Locator. They both have 800 : numbers. So will the SAlvation Army, if what I heard was true. They're also, apparently, cheaper. However, if your relative doesn't want to be found, the S.A. won't tell you where s/he is. (I don't know if name/birthdate/SSN are sufficient for the S.A.) -- -- jt -- John Thompson Senior Design Automation Engineer / Sys-Admin On The Loose Honeywell, SSEC Plymouth, MN 55441 thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com ...regardless of what News may say ************************************************************************* * "I resemble only half the things I say I don't... * * the other half resemble me." * ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 03:38:29 -0400 From: Bob Sherman Subject: Re: Finding someone Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal Subject: Re: Finding someone Date: 24 Oct 1993 03:38:24 -0400 Organization: Not much! In Carl Oppedahl writes: >In Rajiv A Manglani writes: >>I am trying to find a lost relative. All I have is his name, birth date, and >>social security number. How might I get an address or phone number? >No problem writing to your relative. The Social Security Administration >will forward your letter to him. Call them for details; basically you >write a letter, put it in an unsealed envelope, write the SSN and name >on the outside, and deliver that envelope to some SSA address in >Baltimore. They then mail it to the last known address. This is easier said than done. Yes, the SSA will do as you described, but the key here is your "last known address". In reality, The average person never contacts the SSA from the time they first get the card, until it is time to collect some sort of benifit. That can be anywhere from 45-63 years. A last known address that is 40 years or more old does not really offer much help.. There are much faster, and easier ways to locate a person with the information you have at hand.. -- bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu | | MCI MAIL:BSHERMAN an764@cleveland.freenet.edu | | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 03:43:34 -0400 From: Bob Sherman Newsgroups: alt.privacy,comp.society.privacy,misc.legal Subject: Re: Finding someone Organization: Not much! In Larry Kolodney writes: >In Rajiv A Manglani writes: >>I am trying to find a lost relative. All I have is his name, birth date, and >>social security number. How might I get an address or phone number? >>Rajiv >There are many private companies that will do this for about $200. >One is called Equifax. Another is People Locator. They both have 800 >numbers. One such company that will do this for you, and for well under $100 is Computer Assisted Research On Line, their number is 800-329-6397. They should be able to do the entire project within hours. -- bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu | | MCI MAIL:BSHERMAN an764@cleveland.freenet.edu | | ------------------------------ Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy From: Garry N Ray Subject: Re: Digital Detective At Your Service Followup-To: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 14:40:13 GMT Charles W Van Keuren (cwvst+@pitt.edu) wrote: : address in the US. He wrote a book telling of his techniques. I think it : mighta just had a name like "How to Find Anybody". : Anybody know the book of which I speak? Regardless, before you cough up : $$$ to pay for a person-finding service, look for the book or a similar : source. There was a book by this name (or something similar) advertised in this month's Spy magazine (or was it the recent Equire with "60 things you should know" on the cover). One of those two, I'm sure, toward the back of the magazine. ------------------------------ From: David Jones Subject: isn't one's diary considered "private" ?? Date: 23 Oct 1993 18:39:48 -0400 Organization: Centre for Intelligent Machines, McGill University In the (US) news recently are two cases involving personal diary entries being used (or subpoenaed) as evidence. I am surprised that this evidence is admissible, or at least that no one has even tried to argue that it should be private. (1) Some Senator accused of some sort of sexual harrassment has had his personal diary subpoenaed. Why is he not protected by the right not to give self-incriminating testimony? (2) Some girl (a minor I think) apparently wrote in her diary that she regrets killing her younger sister. I think her mother found the diary and went to the police. Again, isn't a diary to be considered private? dj ------------------------------ From: Jim Haynes Date: Sat, 23 Oct 93 21:38:47 -0700 Subject: Items from Monterey County Coast Weekly I can supply more details if you want them. This week's (October 21) "Coast Weekly", a Monterey County free entertainment (mostly) paper has an article on "hacking" by staff writer Nicole Volpe. I'll quote part of an introduction from the editorial page. "While interviewing computer hackers for this issue, it occurred to me that there are a lot of similarities between reporters and cyberpunks - We share a belief in freedom of information, a general suspicion of those in power who operate secretly, and an unfortunate tendency to invade privacy. This reporter got a taste of what it's like to be on the receiving end of privacy invasion when a hacker I was interviewing handed me a printout of personal information about me that he had retrieved, using nothing more than my home phone number. His reasons were valid enough - he wanted to be sure I was who I said I was. As a reporter I was impressed with the investigation, but on a personal level, it gave me the creeps. It was a lesson they don't teach you in J-school..." The main article covers the exploits of some crackers in the Monterey area, their concern about the Clipper proposal, some stuff about arrests of crackers in other parts of the country, and an interview with a security man from Metromedia's long distance business. The latter says, "If you picked up the phone a year ago, dialed one digit, and then hung up, I could go back and find out what that one digit was. All the records are stored on magnetic tape." He goes on to say about the prospect of seizing and confiscating valuable equpment, "The cops are a little more aggressive in going after these kinds of crimes when they learn about that aspect of it." A companion article by Hannah Nordhaus, a San Francisco freelance writer, tells about the use of networking and BBSes by all kinds of groups, from white-supremacisist to leftists, and everything in between. Then there's an article about computer influence on comic books, taken from the Boston Phoenix. ------------------------------ End of Computer Privacy Digest V3 #061 ******************************