Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 16:25:25 EST Errors-To: Comp-privacy Error Handler From: Computer Privacy Digest Moderator To: Comp-privacy@PICA.ARMY.MIL Subject: Computer Privacy Digest V3#057 Computer Privacy Digest Thu, 14 Oct 93 Volume 3 : Issue: 057 Today's Topics: Moderator: Dennis G. Rears Re: Digital Detective At Your Service Re: Digital Detective At Your Service Re: Digital Cash CPSR Annual Meeting in Seattle Oct 16-17 The Computer Privacy Digest is a forum for discussion on the effect of technology on privacy. The digest is moderated and gatewayed into the USENET newsgroup comp.society.privacy (Moderated). Submissions should be sent to comp-privacy@pica.army.mil and administrative requests to comp-privacy-request@pica.army.mil. Back issues are available via anonymous ftp on ftp.pica.army.mil [129.139.160.133]. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry Kolodney Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc Subject: Re: Digital Detective At Your Service Date: 12 Oct 1993 22:53:50 -0400 Organization: The Devil's Advocate In ptownson@telecom.chi.il.us writes: > DIGITAL DETECTIVE > 2241 W. Howard #208 > Chicago, IL 60645 > > Phone: 312-465-0707 > Fax: 312-743-0002 >I wish to announce my recent aquisition of some databases which are >primarily used by skip-tracing, investigative and government agencies >to locate people, any assets they may have, and other pertinent and >personal details of their lives. >These databases are being made available to anyone who wishes to have >access to them. The charges are simply being passed along, 'at cost' >based on what I am paying. I find this hard to believe. The costs that were posted in the rest of this article were far in excess to what I pay for similar services from a commercial vendor. In particular, my vendor does nationwide SS# searches for $10-15 a shot, not the $60 this guy is asking. Similarly, credit reports can be had for about $30. (N.B. obtaining a credit report without a bona fide purpose is illegal. If this guy send you one w/o checking your reasons, that's illegal too). -- larry kolodney:(lkk@panix.com): &#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%) Coming to you from Brooklyn, NY, where the weak are killed and eaten. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 11:44:10 -0400 From: CHRISTIAN S MORLEY Subject: Re: Digital Detective At Your Service Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy,alt.privacy,misc.consumers,misc.legal,misc.misc Is it just me or does anyone else find this service a tad frightening? -- --------------csmorley@student.umass.edu (Christian S. Morley)--------------- "Nietzsche said `What does not kill me only serves to make me stronger...' My version is...What does not kill me only serves to make me sleep until 3:30 the next afternoon." -Jim Carroll ------------------------------ From: Paul Wallich Subject: Re: Digital Cash Date: 13 Oct 1993 16:45:40 -0400 Organization: Trivializers R Us In article Todd M Cocks writes: >Ok, after being told by numerous people that what I was talking about was a >debit card and not digicash, I'm now struck with a question: > >Why is privacy so important that people are wary about debit cards and instead >would like the total anonymity of digicash? If the purchases made through a >debit card are known only to the purchaser, the place the item/service was >purchased and the bank, what is the problem? Laws have been put in place >to protect banks from handing out account information to just anyone, no? No. The banks can sell information on your purchasing habits to various kinds of marketing companies or use it to mark their own additional service to you. If you get involved in a lawsuit, this information may also be open to subpoena. And that's ignoring the question of whether the information should be around where it "just happens" to get out into the world at large. >Digicash has many of the disadvantages of current cash transactions. Illegal >activities can be conducted with complete anonymity. If you are mugged, I >don't think the guy mugging you will accept that you don't wish to tell him >your decode number... It's kinda more likely that someone mugging you won't notice until later that they have nothing but a card that's no good to them (or better yet, a code that tells shopkeepers to call the police). As for your first point, this cuts both ways. Transactions that may or may not be legal depending on your country or the prejudices of your local DA can be conducted with complete anonymity. However, digital cash could be easily designed to enforce certain requirements, e.g. the U.S. regulation on reporting cash transactions of more than $10,000. paul ------------------------------ From: Newsgroups: alt.censorship,alt.activism,comp.society.privacy,misc.activism.progressive,alt.privacy Subject: CPSR Annual Meeting in Seattle Oct 16-17 Date: 14 Oct 1993 01:40:45 GMT Organization: University of Washington, Seattle ************************************************************************ COMPUTER PROFESSIONALS FOR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY ANNUAL MEETING October 16 - 17, 1993 University of Washington, South Campus Center Seattle, Washington, USA Envisioning the Future: A National Forum on the National Information Infrastructure and Community Access Co-sponsored by the American Society for Information Science Pacific Northwest Chapter (ASIS-PNC) ************************************************************************ The National Information Infrastructure (NII) is the proposed medium or "electronic highway" that will connect schools, libraries, government agencies, and citizens using state-of-the-art computer and communications technology. Media, computer, and telecommunications companies are also acutely interested in the NII as it dramatically increases their opportunity for delivery of communication, services, and entertainment. CPSR is convening this meeting for both computer professionals and the informed public to discuss the broad range of choices facing society regarding the NII. Saturday, October 16th 8:00 - 9:00 Registration/Coffee & Tea 9:00 - 9:15 Welcome to the CPSR Annual Meeting - Aki Namioka 9:15 - 10:15 Keynote Address - Bruce McConnell, Office of Management and Budget "Shaping National Information Infrastructure Policy" Bruce McConnell, Chief of Information Policy at the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), will present his views on the major NII issues now facing the administration. He has been with OMB since 1985 and became head of Information Policy in 1992. He now chairs the inter-agency task force responsible for developing federal information policy for the Information Infrastructure Task Force. 10:15 - 10:45 Break 10:45 - 12:15 Panel Discussion - Moderated by Eric Roberts "Public Access to Internetworks" Public access to the Internet (and other major networks) is a critical issue in any discussion about an "electronic highway". Panelists representing a wide variety of perspectives, including representatives from the Pacific Northwest, will present their views. Panelists: Phil Bereano, College of Engineering, University of Washington Eric Hood, NorthWestNet Sonia Jarvis, National Coalition on Black Voter Participation Jim Taylor, Coordinator Automated Services, Seattle Public Library 12:15 - 1:45 Lunch Break 1:45 - 3:00 Panel Discussion - Moderated by Andrew Gordon "Municipal Information Infrastructure" City and other government agencies are exploring possibilities for developing municipal networks. In this panel a city official as well as a representative from the state regulatory agency and a representative of commercial interests will offer their insights and interests. Panelists: Joe Hommel, Washington Utilities and Transportation Commission Susan McAdams, Electric Lightwave Jan Vazzano, Department of Administrative Services, Seattle 3:00 - 4:30 Panel Discussion - Moderated by Doug Schuler "Networking in the Community" Community networks exist and are being developed all over the U.S. Panelists from various community networks will present their perspectives on the state of community networking now and in the future. Panelists: Tom Grundner, National Public Telecomputing Network Parker Lindner, New Media Matters Evelyn Pine, former Executive Director of Community Memory Roy Sahali, CLAMDYP (Computing Literacy and Access Making a Difference for Youth Projects) 4:30 - 4:45 Break 4:45 - 6:15 Panel Discussion - Moderated by Marc Rotenberg "Computers and Democracy - What's the Connection?" How might computers facilitate the democratic process? How might they pervert it? "Electronic Democracy" is currently in the public eye and aspects of it will probably be tested soon. What can be done to promote wise uses of computers in this critical area? Panelists: Leah Lievrouw, Department of Telecommunication and Film, University of Alabama Jamie Love, Taxpayers Assets Project Laura Powers, Libraries for the Future 6:15 - 6:30 Closing Remarks - Jeff Johnson ************************************************************************ 7:00 - 7:30 No Host Bar at Banquet Site 7:30 CPSR Banquet - Fundraiser - Waterfront Activities Center (Vegetarian food will be available) + Presentation of the 1993 Norbert Wiener Award to The Institute for Global Communications (IGC) Presenter: Eric Roberts The CPSR Board of Directors has chosen to award the 1993 Wiener Award to IGC in recognition of the work the organization has done to use network technology to empower previously disenfranchised individuals and groups working for progressive change. Geoff Sears, IGC's Executive Director, will be present to accept the award. + Banquet Address and Interactive Event - Kit Galloway, Electronic Cafe International Kit Galloway of Electronic Cafe International in Santa Monica, California will present his innovative approach to electronic communication using phone lines, slow-scan television, and other technology. Using videotapes and a live demonstration with CPSR chapters in Los Angeles and other locations, Kit will discus how the Electronic Cafe concept has been used in a variety of settings. Electronic Cafe International has staged global events with poets, children, and communities in France, Nicaragua, Japan, as well as a variety of American cities. Be sure to attend the banquet and participate in this provocative encounter with multimedia community networks !! ************************************************************************ Sunday, October 17th The second day of the conference will feature a more interactive format including several workshops, a discussion of CPSR's NII vision, and a special - free ($2.00 suggested donation) and open to the public - panel discussion on "Privacy Implications of Health Care Reform" Sunday evening. 8:30 - 9:30 Coffee & Tea 9:30 - 11:30 Workshop Sessions Gender Relations in Networking - Judi Clark Information Policy: A Framework for Action - Karen Sy Computer Professionals and Social Action - Jeff Johnson Towards Participatory Design of Community Oriented Systems and Services - Michael Muller, Jayson Webb, and Susan Davies 11:30 - 1:00 Lunch Break 1:00 - 2:30 CPSR Discussion 2:30 - 3:00 Break 3:00 - 4:30 CPSR NII Vision Document Discussion - Moderated by Todd Newman 4:30 - 5:00 Closing Remarks - Future CPSR NII Program - Marc Rotenberg 7:30 - 9:30 Special Panel Discussion "Health Care Reform and the National Information Infrastructure: Opportunities and Risks" David Flaherty, Information and Privacy Commissioner, BC Irwin Governman, CIO Group Health Cooperative Lance Heineccius, Director of Policy, WA Health Services Commision Richard Reuben, Executive Director, Foundation for Healthcare Quality Moderated by Kit Bakke This special event is free and open to the public. Kane 210, University of Washington ************************************************************************ ABOUT CPSR Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility stands alone as the only national, non-partisan, public-interest organization dedicated to understanding and directing the impact of computers on society. Decisions regarding the use of this technology have far-reaching consequences that necessarily reflect the basic values and priorities of the people who govern their use. Founded in 1981, CPSR has 2000 members from all over the world and 22 chapters across the country. Each of our members is an important participant in the dialogue that is helping to shape the future use of computers in the United States. Our National Advisory Board includes one Nobel laureate and three winners of the Turing Award, the highest honor in computer science. We believe that as the influence of computers continues to permeate every aspect of our society, it is important that professionals become active participants in formulating the policy that governs computer use and access. CPSR welcomes any and all who share our convictions. ************************************************************************ MEETING SUPPORT We'd like to thank the following corporations and foundations for their generous support of the 1993 Annual Meeting. Interval Research Corporation FirstPerson, Inc. a subsidiary of Sun Microsystems John and Mary R. Markle Foundation PictureTel Digital Equipment Corporation Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration Form Please pre-register as soon as possible to ensure attendence. Registrations at the door will be accepted as space allows. Name ________________________________________________________________ _ Address ______________________________________________________________ City _______________________________ State _____________ Zip _________ Telephone __________________________ E-mail_____________________________ CPSR member $55 _______ Non member $75 _______ 1 year CPSR membership & registration $100 _______ Low income/student $25 _______ Banquet ticket $40 X ___ = _______ Additional donation to further CPSR's work _______ Total enclosed _______ For more information contact CPSR, 415-322-3778, draper@csli.stanford.edu, or Aki Namioka, 206-865-3249, aki@cpsr.org. Send completed registration form with check to: CPSR, P.O. Box 717, Palo Alto, CA 94301 ------------------------------ End of Computer Privacy Digest V3 #057 ******************************